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irclink BOT 18-Feb-18 09:27 AM

[quakenet] <dexter> ah misaka

[quakenet] <dexter> cool

[quakenet] <dexter> was expecting mkdocs or pelican or somethin

Nibiru 19-Feb-18 01:48 PM

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Nibiru 19-Feb-18 01:57 PM

Imo its better to keep two-way bridge for users with a certain role

Instead of disabling transition of messages to irc completely

heinrich5991 19-Feb-18 02:15 PM

@Nibiru I'm using https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge, I don't think it has support for that yet. you could create a feature request

the other method would be not allowing anyone to speak in this channel unless they have a certain role

not sure how well this would be received though

opinions?

Nibiru 19-Feb-18 02:19 PM

Hm, maybe making separate channel for irclink bot that will be read-only for all by default and users with some special role can also write there should work well

Its gonna be even less confusing than bridging only selected users' messages from the main channel (edited)

heinrich5991 19-Feb-18 02:23 PM

I don't like the prospect of having two channels in here. mhh...

irclink BOT 19-Feb-18 02:36 PM

[teeworlds] <heinrich5991> test…

heinrich5991 19-Feb-18 02:36 PM

okay

if you want to send messages to IRC, contact me

irclink BOT 19-Feb-18 02:36 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> okay, now a whitelist of users will be able to send messages to IRC

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> let's hope that this will work out better

Nibiru 19-Feb-18 02:37 PM

Nice

irclink BOT 19-Feb-18 02:37 PM

[quakenet] <minus> sounds pointless

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> people not using IRC clients - people who wnat to have a backlog but don't have a bouncer

cin 19-Feb-18 02:38 PM

+1

Nibiru 19-Feb-18 02:38 PM

Not really pointless bcs if someone wants to spam irc then he will join the channel in irc and spam there but those who want ask devs about sth really important should spend some time joining irc directly

heinrich5991 19-Feb-18 02:39 PM

@cin @ChillerDragon @Nibiru I guess you want to?

Nibiru 19-Feb-18 02:40 PM

Yep, i guess...

irclink BOT 19-Feb-18 02:41 PM

[quakenet] <minus> my point stands :D

[quakenet] <pinkieval> I think I'll host a public instance of IRCAnywhere, to finally end that argument against IRC

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> which argument? what is IRCanywhere?

[quakenet] <pinkieval> IRCAnywhere is a web client with a backlog

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> ah

[teeworlds] <Nibiru> Well the quakenet's web client does the same job except the backlog

[quakenet] <pinkieval> uh

[quakenet] <pinkieval> last commit in 2015

[quakenet] <rand> "except backlog"

[quakenet] <rand> backlog is life

[quakenet] <pinkieval> ooor you could use Mattermost instead of Discord

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> what's mattermost?

[quakenet] <pinkieval> an open source clone of Discord

[quakenet] <pinkieval> and it's way more usable

[teeworlds] <Nibiru> Of slack*

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> rocketchat was open source of slack IIRC

[quakenet] <pinkieval> yeah

[quakenet] <pinkieval> I never quite understood the difference between Slack and Discord, actually

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I don't know slack

[quakenet] <pinkieval> except that Discord is litterally more than 100 times slower than my IRC client, while Slack is only twice slower

[teeworlds] <Nibiru> Slack has no voice and you have to register an account on each of rooms

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> discord is one of these "let's run a web browser to display our program"

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> :(

[quakenet] <minus> Mattermost is under the gitlab umbrella and it's not that great

[quakenet] <pinkieval> heinrich5991: I think running my IRC client on a Linux running in the web browser would be faster than Discord

[quakenet] <minus> Most certainly

[quakenet] <pinkieval> let's try

[quakenet] <deen> pinkieval: sounds like a good case for https://bellard.org/jslinux/

[quakenet] <rand> xD

[quakenet] <pinkieval> deen: that's exactly what I'm using right now

[quakenet] <deen> pinkieval: Thank you for subscribing to Fabrice Bellard facts

[quakenet] <deen> When you start writing a C compiler, add cross-compiling, turn that into a recompiler, use it as a virtual machine and you end up with qemu.

[quakenet] <deen> JSLinux started with code written in JS, converted that to C, and then compiled into JS again using emscripten.

[quakenet] <pinkieval> you forgot ffmpeg

[quakenet] <deen> Actually before tcc there was obfuscated tcc: https://bellard.org/otcc/otcc.c

[quakenet] <pinkieval> damn, so many packages I have to install

[quakenet] <pinkieval> lazy

[quakenet] <deen> haha, you should use a smaller irc client: https://tools.suckless.org/ii/

[quakenet] <deen> or even https://tools.suckless.org/sic/

[quakenet] <pinkieval> let's not be unreasonable

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> pinkieval: https://thelounge.github.io/ that's still in development

What is snow? 19-Feb-18 08:03 PM

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irclink BOT 24-Feb-18 09:25 PM

[quakenet] <day> seeing that theres no proper counter to defensive nade spamming i was thinking maybe allow the pistol to destroy projectiles

[quakenet] <day> i think it could create cool moments when you smash through at high speed while spamming the pistol :D

[teeworlds] <Nibiru> Nice idea tho

irclink BOT 24-Feb-18 09:50 PM

[quakenet] <Edible> there is a proper counter

[quakenet] <Edible> evading :)

[quakenet] <day> no

[quakenet] <Edible> yes

[quakenet] <day> no

[quakenet] <Edible> yeh

[quakenet] <day> so you can accelerate while moving off the ideal flight route?

[quakenet] <day> thats impressive

[quakenet] <day> you evade -> you slow down -> he gets away

[quakenet] <day> you dont evade -> damage

[quakenet] <Edible> then you chase some more

[teeworlds] <Nibiru> There is another way to avoid spamming

[quakenet] <Edible> look, if the gun can explode nades then the shotgun can explode nades

[teeworlds] <Nibiru> Just dont play ctf5

[quakenet] <day> nibiru: if only that map got deleted...if only :P

[quakenet] <Edible> that too, and even with ctf5 spamming there are tactics you can take also

[quakenet] <Edible> which i wont say n.n

[quakenet] <Edible> but that would be nice, shotgun explode nades, and maybe the hammer can block the laser

irclink BOT 25-Feb-18 12:35 AM

[quakenet] <day> with input_grab 1 the game itself works fine, the problem is now i cant interact with the OS anymore because teeworlds eats all the keyboard commands

[quakenet] <day> with input_grab 0 the cursor is stuck in the upper left corner

BRONOOB 26-Feb-18 10:07 AM

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irclink BOT 27-Feb-18 03:03 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> banned 46.147.142.73:8309 for faking player count

irclink BOT 01-Mar-18 11:44 PM

[quakenet] <Slinger> Whats going on here?

irclink BOT 01-Mar-18 11:55 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> eh

sesh 06-Mar-18 02:42 PM

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irclink BOT 08-Mar-18 02:37 AM

[quakenet] <Edible> either nobody is playing or my recently installed distro's teeworlds package has net bugs

[quakenet] <pinkieval> Edible: there are four standard servers with connected players

[quakenet] <pinkieval> and 52 non-standard servers with connected players

irclink BOT 08-Mar-18 04:35 AM

[quakenet] <Edible> sometimes it hangs at 11%

[quakenet] <Edible> so yeah, something is wrong here

irclink BOT 08-Mar-18 01:06 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> there should be around 1000 servers with nonstandard ones

[quakenet] <pinkieval> heinrich5991: I meant servers with connected players

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> oh

irclink BOT 09-Mar-18 06:11 PM

[quakenet] <day> does an explanation exist why teeworlds is so famous in chile? https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=teeworlds

Google Trends

Explore search interest for teeworlds by time, location and popularity on Google Trends

irclink BOT 09-Mar-18 07:35 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> there's a ddnet server in chile, not sure which way the relationship goes :D

[quakenet] <day> aaand now i hate chile :^)

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> mh? :)

[quakenet] <eeeee> pretty sure it was popular even before ddnet existed

[quakenet] <day> j/k

irclink BOT 09-Mar-18 08:07 PM

[quakenet] <deen> day: A famous Chilean livestreamer played TW a few times, thus introducing many

[quakenet] <deen> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSjr-jOnMQ

Xodaaaa

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Flvsh 10-Mar-18 10:10 PM

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sup

What is snow? 11-Mar-18 10:01 PM

Hello

irclink BOT 12-Mar-18 01:53 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> https://bioinformatics.stackexchange.com/questions/3864/converting-bam-file-to-highly-compressible-bam

converting bam file to highly compressible bam

I have a large collection of bam files and I want to post-process each of them into another bam where I can make queries about: the reads position and pair-endness, insert sizes, MAPQ and other ...

irclink BOT 12-Mar-18 03:25 PM

[quakenet] <deen> heinrich5991: wrong kind of bam file :D

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yea :D

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I saw it in the hot questions

[quakenet] <deen> 3 letter names are way too common, I also get wrong notifications for Nim on stack overflow

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> nim (game)? :)

[quakenet] <deen> yeah

[quakenet] <pinkieval> first time I heard of the Nim language, I thought it was an esolang based on the game

ghost 12-Mar-18 07:13 PM

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irclink BOT 13-Mar-18 09:01 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> master servers 1, 2, and 3 look down

[quakenet] <pinkieval> server 4 is ok

irclink BOT 13-Mar-18 09:31 PM

[quakenet] <minus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[quakenet] <pinkieval> yeah, that's how I feel when I do computer stuff too

Savander 15-Mar-18 02:34 PM

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Mokumoku 16-Mar-18 10:39 AM

Go home, it's just savander

a gerdoe 16-Mar-18 11:51 AM

:D

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irclink BOT 17-Mar-18 03:46 PM

[quakenet] <jxsl13> any sql experts here :D?

[quakenet] <jxsl13> https://i.imgur.com/93tyM2b.png

[quakenet] <pinkieval> hmm?

[quakenet] <jxsl13> I have git cTick = connected tick and the actual tick

[quakenet] <jxsl13> got*

[quakenet] <jxsl13> and I want all the rows with the minimum distance at one exact pTick

[quakenet] <jxsl13> like row 1, 5,9

Savander 17-Mar-18 03:49 PM

group by ptick and sort ?

irclink BOT 17-Mar-18 03:50 PM

[quakenet] <minus> jxsl13: ORDER BY (cTick - pTick) ASC?

[quakenet] <jxsl13> dist is actually the distance

[quakenet] <minus> oh

[quakenet] <jxsl13> but sadly didnt work

[quakenet] <jxsl13> or :O

[quakenet] <jxsl13> wait

[quakenet] <minus> you want the rows with smallest dist for each distinct pTick?

[quakenet] <jxsl13> yeah

[quakenet] <pinkieval> SELECT DISTINCT TOP 1 dist FROM table ORDER BY dist

[quakenet] <pinkieval> er wait no

[quakenet] <jxsl13> prink stackoverflow :D?

[quakenet] <pinkieval> SELECT DISTINCT TOP 1 pTick FROM table ORDER BY dist

[quakenet] <jxsl13> pinkieval *

[quakenet] <jxsl13> sqlite*

[quakenet] <minus> paste a .sql script with DDL & DML somewhere

[quakenet] <minus> sqlite? good fucking luck

[quakenet] <jxsl13> x)

[quakenet] <jxsl13> https://pastebin.com/npcFhvmh

[SQL] select * from (select NickName, c.Tick as 'cTick', p....

[quakenet] <jxsl13> that's the stuff for now :O

[quakenet] <minus> that's not DDL+DML tho

[quakenet] <jxsl13> sqlite db -> https://files.johnbehm.de/share/isG4760l

[quakenet] <minus> still not exactly what i asked for

[quakenet] <jxsl13> table structure?

[quakenet] <minus> but it works

[quakenet] <jxsl13> is in the db ._.

[quakenet] <minus> i had intended to throw the data at postgres

[quakenet] <minus> because postgres is king

[quakenet] <pinkieval> minus: ever heard of some quote about a cannon and a fly?

[quakenet] <minus> nope

[quakenet] <minus> but i've heard about cannons and sparrows

[quakenet] <jxsl13> https://files.johnbehm.de/share/xtMHQWAn

[quakenet] <pinkieval> oh right, that one

[quakenet] <jxsl13> mysql dump, hopefully postgres takes it and there is nothing mysql preproitary stuff ._.

[quakenet] <minus> what exactly are you tring to find out, jxsl13?

[quakenet] <jxsl13> assiciate every tick/ClientID with a nickname

[quakenet] <minus> but i already said the sqlite db works too :<

[quakenet] <jxsl13> associate*

[quakenet] <minus> what for?

[quakenet] <jxsl13> to know the person moving the character :D

[quakenet] <jxsl13> as adding that information to every line would not be wise :c

[quakenet] <pinkieval> SELECT * FROM table GROUP BY pTick HAVING MIN(dist);

[quakenet] <minus> you want to join the player name onto each input from playerinput?

[quakenet] <jxsl13> yep

[quakenet] <minus> if you have influence on how the data is generated i strongly suggest you generate a unique ID on joining the game and use that to associate actions

[quakenet] <pinkieval> yeah

[quakenet] <jxsl13> ok :'C

[quakenet] <minus> because then you can just select from actions join players using (id)

[quakenet] <jxsl13> thanks for the tipp tho :D

[quakenet] <minus> bonus: it's much faster

[quakenet] <jxsl13> true that

Horrible 18-Mar-18 12:38 AM

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ShootXen 18-Mar-18 08:11 PM

@heinrich5991 kann ich den discord hier auf dem fng server als invite hinzufügen?

heinrich5991 18-Mar-18 08:28 PM

@ShootXen ja

𝒜𝓀𝒾ღ 19-Mar-18 08:06 AM

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@Fluni

irclink BOT 23-Mar-18 06:23 PM

[quakenet] <breton> hie

irclink BOT 23-Mar-18 06:53 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> hi

a gerdoe 23-Mar-18 07:20 PM

hi

irclink BOT 23-Mar-18 08:40 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> HAI!

irclink BOT 23-Mar-18 09:03 PM

[quakenet] <minus> OHAI

a gerdoe 24-Mar-18 10:38 AM

Ohayo!

irclink BOT 24-Mar-18 02:10 PM

[quakenet] <nameless_tee49> hi

[quakenet] <nameless_tee49> bi

[quakenet] <nameless_tee49> l

Tominous 24-Mar-18 02:11 PM

J

irclink BOT 24-Mar-18 02:12 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> ok.

[quakenet] <pinkieval> hello again

irclink BOT 26-Mar-18 02:21 AM

[quakenet] <Greymanz> Just learned that a IRC exists

[quakenet] <Greymanz> Anyone on?

[quakenet] <Edible> no!

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> most of the users in this channel are located in europe, where it's the middle of the night ^^

[quakenet] <Edible> well, the ones that count anyway

[quakenet] <Edible> which is apparently not me! :`(

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> "most"

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> where are you located? US?

[quakenet] <Greymanz> Me and a bud are planning on streaming the game

[quakenet] <Edible> yep

[quakenet] <Greymanz> im in US too

[quakenet] <Edible> yay! we need more US people playing this game

[quakenet] <Edible> ping wise

[quakenet] <Edible> on twitch Greymanz ?

[quakenet] <Edible> or youtube?

irclink BOT 26-Mar-18 03:06 AM

[quakenet] <Greymanz> Twitch more than likely

[quakenet] <Greymanz> My friend is getting bad internet today though so the stream might not be today

[quakenet] <Greymanz> I found the game through steam when it launched there, even though the first time I saw it was waaaaay before then.

[quakenet] <pinkieval> 02:25 <@heinrich5991> most of the users in this channel are located in europe, where it's the middle of the night ^^

[quakenet] <pinkieval> that doesn't stop me from being online

[quakenet] <pinkieval> 02:29 <Greymanz> Me and a bud are planning on streaming the game

[quakenet] <pinkieval> cool!

[quakenet] <pinkieval> I really should get to bed though, I have an appointment in seven hours

Blade 26-Mar-18 05:42 PM

hello irc people

alter 26-Mar-18 06:48 PM

some much people here

La Gatita Linda 31-Mar-18 04:52 PM

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hi

La Gatita Linda 31-Mar-18 04:59 PM

hello someone spanish joins my group / hola alguien español se une a mi grupo ?

https://discord.gg/pp3aZA

La Gatita Linda 31-Mar-18 08:43 PM

no kill human :c

irclink BOT 31-Mar-18 10:32 PM

[quakenet] <satabeta> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey

[quakenet] <matricks> o/

Pilos 01-Apr-18 11:22 AM

@someone (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ (Armadillo) i like this

irclink BOT 01-Apr-18 02:47 PM

[quakenet] <satabeta> d

irclink BOT 01-Apr-18 03:09 PM

[quakenet] <nameless_tee27> hey guys, would you mind bringing april fool news back? I check in every year on teeworlds and hope for at least one of those :)

La Gatita Linda 01-Apr-18 03:37 PM

https://discord.gg/reHpYz

irclink BOT 02-Apr-18 02:43 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> please tell me there is something we can do when server admins are despicable people

[quakenet] <matricks> don't play on their severs?

[quakenet] <pinkieval> he sucked all the players from the other servers with the same mod

Armadillo 02-Apr-18 02:50 PM

irclink BOT 02-Apr-18 02:55 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> how did he do that?

[quakenet] <pinkieval> ddos

[quakenet] <pinkieval> or dos, I'm not sure

[quakenet] <matricks> hard todo something against it

[quakenet] <pinkieval> I patched my server against his dos, but that was too late, players already got used to his server

irclink BOT 02-Apr-18 03:08 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> again, hard to do anything against

[quakenet] <pinkieval> :/

[quakenet] <matricks> banning servers etc requires proof, and proof is a hard thing

[quakenet] <pinkieval> I have proof that he's homophobic though

[quakenet] <matricks> anything that is something else then just text that can be easily forged?

[quakenet] <pinkieval> eg. he introduced a very weak class of players that he called "faggot"

[quakenet] <matricks> well, sticks fall easily

[quakenet] <matricks> :P

[quakenet] <pinkieval> what?

[quakenet] <matricks> faggot == bunch of sticks

[quakenet] <pinkieval> oh, right

[quakenet] <pinkieval> I think we all know that's not what he meant

[quakenet] <matricks> yap

[quakenet] <matricks> I'm just generally amused with the word fag and faggot

[quakenet] <pinkieval> at first he used it against people he didn't like, but now you can be turned into a "faggot" for various reasons

[quakenet] <pinkieval> like using /faq

[quakenet] <pinkieval> (note it's a "q", as in "frequently asked questions")

[quakenet] <matricks> unfortunally, there is no ruleset etc guiding practices like that, and no manpower to enforce of there were any :/

[quakenet] <pinkieval> oh also, for the DoS, I have proof he wrote code to DoS teeworlds servers

[quakenet] <pinkieval> https://github.com/Stitch626/Teeworlds-DoS-Tools

Stitch626/Teeworlds-DoS-Tools

Contribute to Teeworlds-DoS-Tools development by creating an account on GitHub.

[quakenet] <pinkieval> https://github.com/Stitch626/SpoofingTool

Stitch626/SpoofingTool

Contribute to SpoofingTool development by creating an account on GitHub.

[quakenet] <matricks> spoofing tool he didn't write

[quakenet] <pinkieval> hmm indeed

[quakenet] <matricks> anyway, I'm not the guy to talk to about this

[quakenet] <matricks> I know however that tribes had some good strats against some connection dos attacks that I've been intressted in trying out

irclink BOT 02-Apr-18 08:03 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> 15:13 <pinkieval> I think we all know that's not what he meant

[quakenet] <pinkieval> well, now he added a class called Gaylord

[quakenet] <pinkieval> that settles it

La Gatita Linda 02-Apr-18 08:40 PM

irclink BOT 03-Apr-18 12:14 AM

[quakenet] <breton> why do you care lol

[quakenet] <breton> less load to your servers

La Gatita Linda 03-Apr-18 01:02 AM

irclink BOT 03-Apr-18 01:59 AM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> breton: because his server's gameplay is shit

[quakenet] <pinkieval> and I don't really care about my servers' load, they all have a CPU load next to 0

[quakenet] <pinkieval> I even run BOINC on one of them

[quakenet] <pinkieval> the only bottleneck is being able to handle DoS attacks again teeworlds

irclink BOT 03-Apr-18 02:22 AM

[quakenet] <breton> pinkieval: well, his gameplay is just single-player oriented. Humans rarely team up and everyone wants to be a superhero killing tens of zombies

irclink BOT 03-Apr-18 02:40 AM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> exactly

irclink BOT 03-Apr-18 02:50 AM

[quakenet] <breton> pinkieval: but that's the reason why it is popular and good. You don't have to depend on noobbing and lagging teammates.

[quakenet] <pinkieval> very true

[quakenet] <pinkieval> and that would explain why the most skilled players stopped playing infclass

Christian Kruse 03-Apr-18 10:28 PM

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Blade 04-Apr-18 11:32 AM

Hello IRC people!

irclink BOT 05-Apr-18 03:03 PM

[quakenet] <minus> recaptcha on the forums is dead because google shut down the v1 api

irclink BOT 05-Apr-18 03:47 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> rip

La Gatita Linda 06-Apr-18 11:07 PM

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irclink BOT 09-Apr-18 11:01 PM

[quakenet] <minus> heinrich5991: those posts you replied to today look suspiciously like spam D: going by user names

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yes

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> but then the questions sounded real

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> if they haven't been posted before, I'd definitely err on the side of "not spam"

[quakenet] <minus> i'm a bit surprised registering in the forums is still possible

irclink BOT 09-Apr-18 11:14 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> minus: recaptcha only shows the api error to a portion of the users

[quakenet] <pinkieval> to give admins time to upgrade to the v2 api, before v1 is definitely closed

[quakenet] <minus> hm

[quakenet] <minus> i'd just disable it then

[quakenet] <minus> don't wanna train drones for killing people

[quakenet] <pinkieval> you can still pass the captcha v2 when making "clever" mistakes on purpose

[quakenet] <pinkieval> like selecting stuff that looks like what it's asking for, but isn't

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irclink BOT 11-Apr-18 12:23 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> Stitch626: any idea what happened to the Infc Discord group?

[quakenet] <pinkieval> A few people (including me) can't see it

irclink BOT 11-Apr-18 01:09 PM

[quakenet] <Stitch626> this channel isnt meant to discuss about mods, pinkieval. but to answer your question: it has been deleted.

irclink BOT 11-Apr-18 01:17 PM

[quakenet] <pinkieval> I asked here because you're not in #infclass

[quakenet] <pinkieval> do you know why it was deleted?

[quakenet] <Stitch626> because I selected: server settings -> delete server -> wrote the server name -> press big red delete button

[quakenet] <pinkieval> uh

[quakenet] <pinkieval> why did you do that?

[quakenet] <Stitch626> because people like you are annoying me almost all the time and its waste of time to even read comments there.

[quakenet] <Stitch626> and then people are complaining when I delete spam and its getting called censorship...

[quakenet] <pinkieval> then you could make me an admin and leave the group

[quakenet] <Stitch626> we both know that I got the ownership with a reason, idk what it was exactly but necro had a reason to give ME the ownership and not you.

[quakenet] <Stitch626> so it was my decision, not yours.

irclink BOT 11-Apr-18 03:06 PM

[quakenet] <rand> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/079/173/ed2.png

irclink BOT 11-Apr-18 04:54 PM

[quakenet] <armadillo> test msg

4

irclink BOT 11-Apr-18 06:12 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> test msg, please ignore

irclink BOT 11-Apr-18 07:47 PM

[quakenet] <Rafael> rand, xd

irclink BOT 18-Apr-18 12:41 AM

[quakenet] <thhiroki> ARE YOU TIRED OF LOW IQ MAXINE WATERS AND THOSE OTHER PORCH NIGGERS PISSING ON TRUMP?? EMERGENCY KKK MEETING @ iяс.sцреяиетs.ояg сни #superbowl IN 5 MINUTES!! (THE MEETINGS HAVE MOVED FROM FREENODE BECAUSE OF COMPLAINTS DO NOT COMPLAIN TO SUPERNETS STAFF THANKS!!)

[quakenet] <thhiroki> Edible Sajadi Wuzzy ViantriZ day Henningstone fstd laxa Ralbol Kottizen Teetime koomi lvgx breton imook_ Rafael heinrich5991 eeeee NoxNebula Sd` XXLTomate Nimda3 botnik matricks laxadedi jxsl13 bridge deen EastByte minus Q Learath2 Mr-Anderson floreo lukky513 rand

[quakenet] <Edible> why am i the first in the list?

irclink BOT 18-Apr-18 01:09 AM

[quakenet] <wrremote> ARE YOU TIRED OF LOW IQ MAXINE WATERS AND THOSE OTHER PORCH NIGGERS PISSING ON TRUMP?? EMERGENCY KKK MEETING @ iяс.sцреяиетs.ояg сни #5000 IN 5 MINUTES!! (THE MEETINGS HAVE MOVED FROM FREENODE BECAUSE OF COMPLAINTS DO NOT COMPLAIN TO SUPERNETS STAFF THANKS!!)

[quakenet] <wrremote> Edible Wuzzy ViantriZ day Henningstone fstd laxa Ralbol Kottizen Teetime koomi lvgx breton imook_ Rafael heinrich5991 eeeee NoxNebula Sd` XXLTomate Nimda3 botnik matricks laxadedi jxsl13 bridge deen EastByte minus Q Learath2 Mr-Anderson floreo lukky513 rand

irclink BOT 18-Apr-18 09:13 PM

[quakenet] <Dune_> we 3/4 testing 0.7 zomb mod

[quakenet] <Dune_> someone wants to come?

[quakenet] <Dune_> heinrich5991:

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> hi

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Dune_ :o

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> you're alive

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> coming

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> ahh, 0.7. don't have it compiled. compiling…

[quakenet] <Dune_> I'm not sure it's even the last version

[quakenet] <Dune_> hold on i just have the binaries

[quakenet] <Dune_> heinrich5991: which os tho

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> linux

[quakenet] <Dune_> hmm

[quakenet] <Dune_> well just compile your own then

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> in progress :)

[quakenet] <Dune_> great :)

irclink BOT 18-Apr-18 09:48 PM

[quakenet] <Learath2> huh, Dune_ is alive

[quakenet] <Dune_> :)

[quakenet] <matricks> :)

[quakenet] <minus> :')

irclink BOT 18-Apr-18 10:23 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Dune_: btw, thanks for the game. quite nice mod :)

[quakenet] <Dune_> thank LordSk, heinrich5991

[quakenet] <Dune_> he makes super nice stuff when he finds the motivation

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> he's not here though

[quakenet] <Dune_> right, well I'll pass it up then :)

[quakenet] <Dune_> I don't know how things are going to turn out given that there is no stable 0.7. I guess we'll release it nonetheless

irclink BOT 19-Apr-18 06:27 AM

[quakenet] <Dune_> day: däy?

irclink BOT 19-Apr-18 08:06 AM

[quakenet] <day> nooo Dune D:

[quakenet] <day> :,(

[quakenet] <day> havent spoken to him in years and now i miss him by 1.5h y.y

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[quakenet] <Learath2> matricks: here?

irclink BOT 20-Apr-18 06:14 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> Learath2: yes

[quakenet] <minus> (if he'd asked a question he'd have an answer by now)

irclink BOT 20-Apr-18 06:28 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> yap

irclink BOT 21-Apr-18 07:44 AM

[quakenet] <tiwake404> https://www.youtube.com/user/l0de/live IS POPPIN HOT RIGHT NOW STILL GOING!! CALL 315-505-4666. IRC.EFNET.ORG #lrh

COUNTDOWN TO WW3 - Live call in show - the l0de radio hour! - YouTube

Support the stream: https://streamlabs.com/l0de - http://www.patreon.com/l0de

[quakenet] <tiwake404> Edible day fstd HerzogDeXtEr1 Henningstone ViantriZ laxa Rafael Ralbol Kottizen Teetime koomi lvgx breton imook_ Q minus matricks Learath2 Mr-Anderson floreo lukky513 rand EastByte deen bridge jxsl13 laxadedi botnik Nimda3 XXLTomate Sd` NoxNebula eeeee heinrich5991

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wow, hi

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irclink BOT 01-May-18 06:01 PM

[teeworlds] <ChillerDragon> yo matricks why did use 5 as minimum ms not 1? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/8aa0456a2982e0992967e47731034f328c600cba

added mouse sens option · ddnet/ddnet@8aa0456

[teeworlds] <ChillerDragon> for inp_mousesens

irclink BOT 01-May-18 06:14 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> bridge: probably because of UI

ChillerDragon 01-May-18 06:18 PM

?

irclink BOT 01-May-18 06:19 PM

[teeworlds] <ChillerDragon> ? what do you mean ? because it wont work with 1?

[teeworlds] <ChillerDragon> i changed it to 1 and the settings ui was fucked because the 5 was hardcodet minimum but it is easy fix and the settings look og agian

[quakenet] <matricks> didn't I ban this stupid bridge btw

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yes, you did

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I unbanned it after making sure it won't spam again

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> sorry if that was against your intentions

irclink BOT 02-May-18 10:39 PM

[quakenet] <lamefun> Is it intentional that when you click both mouse buttons at the same time, nothing happens, or is something up with my input?

[quakenet] <Edible> something is up with your input

[quakenet] <Edible> i have the hook,shoot & jump all on b1 b2 and b3, it all works fine

[quakenet] <Edible> well, i used to until that style of play screwed everything up

[quakenet] <Edible> and by everything i mean the mouse, lifetime of 10 months or so

[quakenet] <Edible> you on linux lamefun ?

[quakenet] <Edible> fedora

[quakenet] <Edible> ah

[quakenet] <Edible> i see

[quakenet] <Edible> you shouldnt use linux

[quakenet] <Edible> its bad for your sanity

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> </3

irclink BOT 02-May-18 10:56 PM

[quakenet] <yemDX> teeworlds dead yet

1

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> maybe?

[quakenet] <yemDX> dang

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> 500 players online right now

[quakenet] <yemDX> checked github and saw last commit was 4 months ago

[quakenet] <yemDX> had to see if yall died

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> 70 in standard game types

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> development of vanilla is very slow

[quakenet] <lamefun> is client-side scripting planned?

[quakenet] <yemDX> has been for a few years now

[quakenet] <yemDX> i just check every few months to see if yall still remember it

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> lamefun: at the current rate the better question would be: is a release in this decade planned

[quakenet] <Edible> oh look its yem

[quakenet] <Edible> hi yem

[quakenet] <yemDX> heya

[quakenet] <lamefun> is there anything left to develop even?

[quakenet] <Edible> i thought you retired or something

[quakenet] <yemDX> well when there's no one decent to play with you're sort of forced to retire

[quakenet] <yemDX> and i dont like ddrace

[quakenet] <yemDX> or ctf5

[quakenet] <lamefun> as far as I can see the game is complete

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yemDX: there's a ctf2 thing going on right now

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> lamefun: some security fixes might be nice

[quakenet] <yemDX> i think there's plenty to add

[quakenet] <yemDX> or rather change

[quakenet] <Edible> yemDX, there used to be like weekly games on ictf and so on, so.

[quakenet] <yemDX> wouldn't mind some qol UI stuff

[quakenet] <yemDX> i dont really care for mods man

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> 0.7 would have a completely different UI ^^

[quakenet] <Edible> zcatch*

[quakenet] <lamefun> mods are spirituall life of a game...

[quakenet] <yemDX> there's at least a ctf game once a month in brazil from what i've seen

[quakenet] <Edible> theres some people that don't play ctf5 at night, every day

[quakenet] <yemDX> i get invited to them occasionally from the discord

[quakenet] <yemDX> mods are cool and all but i dont like the mods people like on teeworlds

[quakenet] <yemDX> instagib's about as fun as it is on quake

[quakenet] <yemDX> is the whole skin revamp thing still in 0.7

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yes

[quakenet] <yemDX> i tried it out a looong time ago when it got first added, was kinda cool

[quakenet] <yemDX> i want that stuff from tw-pandora to get added if you remember that

[quakenet] <yemDX> at least the skid thing and the dust physics

irclink BOT 03-May-18 01:03 AM

[quakenet] <Edible> quake is alive?

irclink BOT 03-May-18 01:13 AM

[quakenet] <yemDX> so almost dead

irclink BOT 03-May-18 08:48 AM

[quakenet] <day> a teeworlds skin revamp?

irclink BOT 06-May-18 02:26 PM

[quakenet] <_FilterFicker> Hey @minus could you fix the registration on the forum? Im not able to register because recaptcha v1 is down. Screenshot: https://preview.ibb.co/e5BXzS/d.png

[quakenet] <minus> _FilterFicker: disabled recaptcha

[quakenet] <minus> i've been wanting to do that but forgot :<

[quakenet] <_FilterFicker> thank you c:

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irclink BOT 08-May-18 08:27 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> oh wooow

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/05/08/extended-eol-in-notepad/

Introducing extended line endings support in Notepad

For many years, Windows Notepad only supported text documents containing Windows End of Line (EOL) characters - Carriage Return (CR) & Line Feed (LF). This means that Notepad was unable to correctly display the contents of text files created in U...

a gerdoe 08-May-18 08:29 PM

lol

irclink BOT 08-May-18 08:36 PM

[quakenet] <minus> i read eol as end of life

a gerdoe 08-May-18 08:37 PM

ahhaha

classic...

irclink BOT 08-May-18 08:45 PM

[quakenet] <Edible> MS now selling immortality

irclink BOT 08-May-18 09:30 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> heinrich5991: OMFG!

irclink BOT 08-May-18 11:49 PM

[quakenet] <Henningstone> wow gj microsoft on that, it only took them like 2 decades slow clap

[quakenet] <matricks> Henningstone: not so fast, clap slower

irclink BOT 09-May-18 12:13 AM

[quakenet] <Edible> they're slowly absorbing linux to the point of irrelevancy

[quakenet] <Edible> as they always do and always did with most products

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[quakenet] <minus> looks like CI builds on the teeworlds repo will break on aug 31. though the last build was in january anyway, so it probably doesn't matter

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[quakenet] <lamefun> Has anyone considered WITCHCRAFT as a possible casue of Teeworlds problems?

irclink BOT 14-May-18 06:37 PM

[quakenet] <Nils_> Wich Visual Studio 2017 Community components i need to install for compiling bam?

heinrich5991 14-May-18 06:50 PM

desktop c++, python

irclink BOT 14-May-18 06:51 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> desktop c++, python

[quakenet] <Nils_> Danke

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[quakenet] <Whis> @minus Hi i am Whis (https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6902) . My Problem is , that I dont know my email and my password , so my question is , that you can delete my old whis account that I can make a new with the name whis

[GRAPHICS] by whis (Page 1) — Graphics — Teeworlds Forum

[GRAPHICS] by whis (Page 1) — Graphics — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

[quakenet] <minus> sure thing

[quakenet] <minus> Whis: done

[quakenet] <Whis> what is done ^^ ?

[quakenet] <minus> just kidding; if you've lost access to the email account and forgot the password then you're out of luck

[quakenet] <Whis> k , but can you reset the email and the password ? than I can change it :o , or delete the account

[quakenet] <minus> no

[quakenet] <minus> there is not proof that the account belongs to you

[quakenet] <Whis> ok but thanks

irclink BOT 18-May-18 12:45 AM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Whis: do you not know what email you associated to your account or do you not know your email password?

irclink BOT 18-May-18 10:42 AM

[quakenet] <minus> heinrich5991: do not change or give out the email, reset the password or delete the account if you are not absolutely sure he is the owner of the account. in this case the account had activity from this year and was wuite obviously Czech while Whis was most likely German

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> okay, I thought it might be fine to give out the email. will not do that then

[quakenet] <minus> if he could offer a short list of possible email addresses of which one matches, then maybe. but at that point a password reset will give him access anyway

irclink BOT 19-May-18 07:00 PM

[quakenet] <Nils_> @matricks Why did my Avira Free Antivirus say that the "txt2x.exe" from bam is an Virus?

irclink BOT 19-May-18 07:57 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> Nils_: where did you get it from?

irclink BOT 19-May-18 08:07 PM

[quakenet] <Nils_> http://github.com/downloads/matricks/bam/bam-0.4.0.zip

[quakenet] <Nils_> 13.05 at 14:15

irclink BOT 19-May-18 08:30 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> Nils_: you compiled it yourself?

irclink BOT 19-May-18 08:40 PM

[quakenet] <Nils_> When I try, my antivirus program reports the virus in the txt2c.exe.

[quakenet] <matricks> either false alarm, or your compiler is infected / faulty etc

[quakenet] <matricks> does it say which virus it detects?

[quakenet] <Nils_> Yes, "HEUR/APC"

[quakenet] <matricks> http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-2774263/false-positive.html

How do I know if this is a false positive or not?

I downloaded a utility tool to mod a game which is widely known and used in that game's community, got straight from the developer's direct link. I scanned it before running it with both Avira and MB

[quakenet] <matricks> dunno what causes it to trigger

[quakenet] <matricks> https://www.avira.com/en/support-threats-summary/tid/26757/threat/HEUR.APC

HEUR/APC - Avira Virus Lab

avira

[quakenet] <Nils_> Hm.. http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-2774263/false-positive.html good Answer

How do I know if this is a false positive or not?

I downloaded a utility tool to mod a game which is widely known and used in that game's community, got straight from the developer's direct link. I scanned it before running it with both Avira and MB

[quakenet] <Nils_> Okay, thanks, I don't think it's a virus. Good night.

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irclink BOT 25-May-18 11:19 AM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> happy GDPR :)

[quakenet] <koomi> and happy towel day ;-)

irclink BOT 25-May-18 11:28 AM

[quakenet] <minus> i even got GDPR spam by snail mail yesterday

irclink BOT 25-May-18 12:23 PM

[quakenet] <day> do all companies have to inform all of their contacts?

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> companies have to inform people if they change their privacy policy

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> if they have to change their privacy policy to comply with the GDPR, I think they have to inform you ^^

[quakenet] <day> but wasnt that always the case?

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> not sure what you mean

[quakenet] <day> privacy policy change -> update clients

[quakenet] <day> ah nvm. the emails are merely a result of privacy changes due to gdpr. my bad

[quakenet] <day> i bet in 1 year noone even cares about gdpr anymore. its going to be ignored left and right

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> hopefully not. they put fines in there to prevent that from happening

[quakenet] <day> afaik facebook is already in violation of it. lets see when they pay the "4% of their annual revenue" fine :P

irclink BOT 25-May-18 01:49 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> the goal is compliance, not fines primarily

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> it'd be better to get them to compliance than to collect a fine

irclink BOT 25-May-18 10:12 PM

[quakenet] <jaard> Potato.

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> potayto potahto

[quakenet] <jaard> Exactly.

irclink BOT 25-May-18 10:21 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> :P

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irclink BOT 08-Jun-18 03:12 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> anyone got an idea wrt. https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12457 ?

Help Me (Page 1) — Support — Teeworlds Forum

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> is that a hidpi issue?

[quakenet] <deen> yes

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> i.e. one that would need to be fixed in code?

[quakenet] <deen> or on windows right click on exe and you can disable scaling for it manually

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> or can one also select some weird hidpi stuff in the "properties" dialog?

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> ok

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> want to write an answer or shall I?

[quakenet] <deen> better you do it

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> ok, thanks for the help

irclink BOT 08-Jun-18 03:34 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> thanks for answering as well, ChillerDragon

irclink BOT 08-Jun-18 05:51 PM

[teeworlds] <ChillerDragon> np c:

irclink BOT 09-Jun-18 07:18 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> minus: :)

[quakenet] <matricks> minus:

[quakenet] <matricks> ops

[quakenet] <matricks> minus: https://github.com/matricks/bam/commit/a2bde50183f38af6e11bebdcaf383b91314143af

added --debug-verify that checks what every job changes on disk to...

…tch missing output

irclink BOT 09-Jun-18 07:27 PM

[quakenet] <minus> first change in over a year :D

[quakenet] <matricks> why change perfection? :)

[quakenet] <matricks> checked teeworlds with it and it was clean at least

irclink BOT 10-Jun-18 11:43 AM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> huh. nice idea

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I wonder if other build systems support that

irclink BOT 10-Jun-18 04:16 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> heinrich5991: i know that there is a buildsystem that actually hooks into the subprocess and looks on file opens to figure out dependencirs etc

[quakenet] <matricks> that requires a lot more os-specific code however

irclink BOT 11-Jun-18 03:20 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> heh, nice

irclink BOT 11-Jun-18 04:32 PM

[teeworlds] <ChillerDragon> bam best build sys o.O im still sad ddnet uses cmake now

irclink BOT 12-Jun-18 04:37 AM

[teeworlds] <Nibiru> Yes bam was pretty much understandable even for such a lamer like me

irclink BOT 12-Jun-18 11:53 AM

[quakenet] <minus> [teeworlds] <minus> Though Teeworlds' bam file is a bit not so nice because configurations are generated on the fly instead of being static

irclink BOT 12-Jun-18 12:32 PM

[teeworlds] <ChillerDragon> i see no problem with that? Is it recognizeable slower because of that?

irclink BOT 17-Jun-18 07:12 AM

[quakenet] <Rodo> Hello

irclink BOT 17-Jun-18 02:29 PM

[quakenet] <breton> indeed

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irclink BOT 22-Jun-18 05:38 AM

[teeworlds] <Nibiru> Sup with masterservers? DoS again?

irclink BOT 22-Jun-18 09:10 AM

[quakenet] <deen> Nibiru: Yes, spam of server registrations from spoofed ips on all master servers, thus real servers get dropped

irclink BOT 22-Jun-18 11:16 AM

[quakenet] <minus> solution: add proof of work? :D

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> blockchain!

irclink BOT 22-Jun-18 11:49 AM

[quakenet] <minus> chains heinrich5991 to a block of concrete and drops him in the ocean

irclink BOT 22-Jun-18 11:56 AM

[quakenet] <day> throws all existing nade launchers after him to finally balance the game :^)

irclink BOT 22-Jun-18 03:33 PM

[quakenet] <Learath2> proof of work could actually work

[quakenet] <Learath2> or just challnge response

irclink BOT 22-Jun-18 05:35 PM

[teeworlds] <Nibiru> I think the masterserver should send info request to server that wants to register, if it receives a correct reply, then the server gets registered

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yes, that'd work as a workaround currently

irclink BOT 22-Jun-18 09:34 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> erh.. the server does that already

[quakenet] <matricks> but that queue might get filled up... should be fixed :/

irclink BOT 23-Jun-18 01:42 AM

[quakenet] <Stitch626> I made a little tool to request the tw server list. There is also a fuction to sort it by master server (for debugging purposes). I've seen very interesting things. Right now the masterservers are a bit buggy/attacked. On master 3 are only teecloud servers, nothing else. On master 4 is almost only ddnet, there are just a few other servers. This sounds like whitelisting.... Isnt that a bad thing? minus heinrich5991 matricks

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irclink BOT 23-Jun-18 09:36 AM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> matricks: the challenge-response is not really one, because the response doesn't contain information from the challenge

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> you can spoof the whole conversation

[webserfer] 23-Jun-18 02:51 PM

masters ddosed again?

irclink BOT 24-Jun-18 01:12 AM

[quakenet] <matricks> heinrich5991: tought that me

[quakenet] <matricks> might be the case

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what is this

ah

i see

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Deleted User 24-Jun-18 03:40 PM

wtf

Schorsch 24-Jun-18 04:45 PM

don't just tag everyone

rude

ZombieToad 24-Jun-18 04:45 PM

@heinrich5991 pls fix

Schorsch 24-Jun-18 04:45 PM

pls kick thx

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heinrich5991 24-Jun-18 04:49 PM

should be fixed

you may try, without ban

Pastoer 24-Jun-18 04:50 PM

@everyone

heinrich5991 24-Jun-18 04:50 PM

mh. did this ping?

ZombieToad 24-Jun-18 04:50 PM

@heinrich5991 can u also change default notifications to only @mentions

heinrich5991 24-Jun-18 04:51 PM

done

ZombieToad 24-Jun-18 04:51 PM

didnt ping

heinrich5991 24-Jun-18 04:51 PM

cool. ty

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SIEMA

Pastoer 24-Jun-18 05:08 PM

ẞẞẞẞẞ

irclink BOT 25-Jun-18 01:50 PM

[quakenet] <Tie21> Hi, I'm trying to compile Teeworlds on my Linux, and I have some troubles with Freetype

irclink BOT 25-Jun-18 02:27 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Tie21: what is the error message?

irclink BOT 25-Jun-18 03:03 PM

[quakenet] <Tie21> It was with the 6.4.0 version

[quakenet] <Tie21> from src/engine/client/text.cpp:14:

[quakenet] <Tie21> other/freetype/include/config/ftoption.h:284:32: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before « ( » token

[quakenet] <Tie21> #define FT_EXPORT(x) __declspec(dllexport) x

[quakenet] <Tie21> Sorry for the delay, it took me some time to reproduce the error

[quakenet] <Tie21> there's one weird thing :

[quakenet] <Tie21> when running bam -c config

[quakenet] <Tie21> AUTO freetype not found (required)

[quakenet] <Tie21> But the freetype2 package is installed on my distrib, heinrich5991

[quakenet] <Tie21> Thank you for your time btw.

irclink BOT 25-Jun-18 04:09 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Tie21: install libfreetype6-dev

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> and delete config.lua after that

[quakenet] <Tie21> I'm on Arch linux, and I already installed freetype, do I need a specific version ?

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> delete config.lua and try again

[quakenet] <Tie21> Still : AUTO freetype not found (required)

[quakenet] <Tie21> And freetype eror

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> hm

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> where did you get version 0.6.4? I'll try it as well

[quakenet] <Tie21> Zip on website

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> link?

[quakenet] <Tie21> https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/archive/0.6.4-release.tar.gz

[quakenet] <Tie21> I tried with both gz andzip

[quakenet] <minus> Tie21: there's a PKGBUILD, you don't need to build it yourself

[quakenet] <minus> and if you're building a mod or so just adjust the PKGBUILD

[quakenet] <Tie21> minus: ok I will test with that. :) Thanks

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> (you can also just use the package from the repository, if you just want to have teeworlds)

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> (pacman -S teeworlds)

[quakenet] <Tie21> Yeah, no I wanted to do some modifications

[quakenet] <Tie21> It's part of a project for my Internship. I'm working with Trusted Execution Environment (aka TEEs) and use you software as example would have made a really good joke.

[quakenet] <minus> and for the pun?

[quakenet] <minus> because that's a good pun

[quakenet] <Tie21> Yep. ^^

[quakenet] <minus> are you referring to SGX?

[quakenet] <Tie21> minus: yup exactly SGX/SEV...

[quakenet] <minus> SGX is a bad meme

[quakenet] <Tie21> ?!

[quakenet] <minus> oh, SEV is the AMD version of SGX

[quakenet] <Tie21> Yeah... Approximatively equivalent, but working on complete Virtual Machine instead of processes

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yea okay, the PKGBUILD doesn't work anymore

[quakenet] <Tie21> Arf. :/

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> the problem is that freetype-config doesn't exist anymore

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> which is called by src/other/freetype.lua

[quakenet] <Tie21> Okay that explains why I get some Windows error, like If I was trying to cross compile

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> ah, I fixed

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> it

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> Tie21: https://gist.github.com/heinrich5991/957428ef68ced0fb8efbb57adb6f8630

Teeworlds 0.6.4 Freetype patch

[quakenet] <Tie21> Ok, thank you! :)

WTrawi 25-Jun-18 05:18 PM

Where can I find this irc channel?

heinrich5991 25-Jun-18 05:19 PM

quakenet

irc.quakenet.org, channel #teeworlds

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DanilBest 01-Jul-18 06:19 PM

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6559

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irclink BOT 03-Jul-18 02:48 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> can anyone recommend android distributions? :)

irclink BOT 03-Jul-18 03:00 PM

[quakenet] <minus> i use lineageos

[quakenet] <minus> it works mostly

irclink BOT 03-Jul-18 05:17 PM

[quakenet] <day> i second the mostly part

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irclink BOT 03-Jul-18 09:19 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> heh

[quakenet] <matricks> I always forget how fast teeworlds builds...

[quakenet] <matricks> real0m1.722s

irclink BOT 03-Jul-18 09:27 PM

[quakenet] <minus> oh you

[quakenet] <minus> although it's C++

[quakenet] <minus> how many SLOC is it even

[quakenet] <matricks> not that much, but I made sure that the code doesn't explode due to includes as well so

[quakenet] <minus> work's 25k lines take about 40s

[quakenet] <matricks> heh, teeworlds is more then that.. like 40-60k something

[quakenet] <matricks> 66.7k lines

irclink BOT 03-Jul-18 09:48 PM

[quakenet] <minus> builds in 5.1s here

[quakenet] <minus> (bam conf=release -j 16)

[quakenet] <minus> actually it fails after that time

[quakenet] <minus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[quakenet] <matricks> I did debug build

[quakenet] <matricks> release takes 3.6s

[quakenet] <minus> 2.8s

[quakenet] <matricks> but I have a blaaaazin fast pc :)

[quakenet] <minus> i've got a ryzen 1700, that isn't half bad

[quakenet] <minus> you must have a monster

[quakenet] <matricks> erh.. I got a ryzen 1700 :)

[quakenet] <minus> scratches head

[quakenet] <minus> retries in /tmp

[quakenet] <matricks> erh.. how do I see what cpu I have? :D

[quakenet] <matricks> proc cpuinfo..

[quakenet] <matricks> model name: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor

[quakenet] <minus> overclocked?

[quakenet] <matricks> no

[quakenet] <matricks> 32gb ram

[quakenet] <matricks> some nice ssd :)

[quakenet] <minus> 64GB RAM, 960 evo

[quakenet] <minus> 2.7s

[quakenet] <minus> you did build everything, didn't you?

[quakenet] <matricks> time ../bam/bam -f

[quakenet] <minus> not a chance

[quakenet] <matricks> 630 jobs done

[quakenet] <matricks> 1.7s

[quakenet] <matricks> and my branch is just behind with 30 commits :D

[quakenet] <minus> i blame archlinux

[quakenet] <minus> it doesn't even build because of freetype

[quakenet] <matricks> oh.. might be one of those things?

[quakenet] <matricks> minus: how many jobs does your one execute?

[quakenet] <minus> 631

[quakenet] <matricks> ok

[quakenet] <minus> well, fails on linking, 630

ZombieToad 03-Jul-18 10:03 PM

@heinrich5991 noby fng test server is faking playcount

1

and you cant join it

heinrich5991 03-Jul-18 11:00 PM

@ZombieToad have you tried talking to @noby ?

ZombieToad 03-Jul-18 11:01 PM

@heinrich5991 hes offline

heinrich5991 03-Jul-18 11:16 PM

then contact him when he's back online

noby 04-Jul-18 03:34 AM

Its not faking lmao

I left a laptop open with 31 tees on it

getkey 04-Jul-18 08:54 AM

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irclink BOT 04-Jul-18 06:42 PM

[freenode] <juan_> Hello! I'm a big fan of this game and I want to make an opensource 3D version of teeworlds. My question is the following: Is Teeworlds a trade mark? Because I would like to call my game Teeworlds 3D in honor to the original

irclink BOT 04-Jul-18 06:53 PM

[quakenet] <minus> it's not a trademark

[quakenet] <minus> unless matricks secretly filed one

irclink BOT 04-Jul-18 07:19 PM

[freenode] <juan_> Ok thanks

irclink BOT 04-Jul-18 08:13 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> juan_: 3d in what sence?

irclink BOT 05-Jul-18 12:06 AM

[quakenet] <Learath2> 3d in new super mario bros sense might work, 3d as in really 3d would just lose the point of the game imho

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Savander 05-Jul-18 02:56 PM

I remember, that there was teeworlds 3D version

on forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig165lpGzwc

DarkDL1

Teeworlds 3D : Gameplay

Teeworlds 3D made by Bobynator.

ChillerDragon 05-Jul-18 11:04 PM

yy

looks shit

xd

does it even have a hook?

Maxx 06-Jul-18 09:37 PM

like half life graphics

a gerdoe 06-Jul-18 10:43 PM

Пхах

irclink BOT 08-Jul-18 02:53 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> I just noticed something weird...

[quakenet] <matricks> src/game/collision.cpp isn't depending on src/engine/map.h...

[quakenet] <matricks> wtf

[quakenet] <matricks> it picks up engine/kernel.h however....

irclink BOT 08-Jul-18 03:08 PM

[quakenet] <minus> magic

[quakenet] <matricks> weird temporary error it seems :/

[quakenet] <matricks> is bringing the web to bam

[quakenet] <minus> D:

[quakenet] <matricks> minus: touy

[quakenet] <matricks> minus: touching up --debug-detail and adding --debug-detail-html so you get a page with clickable links so you can jump around easier

[quakenet] <minus> with jabbascribt?

[quakenet] <matricks> no jabbascript, plain html

[quakenet] <minus> nice nice

[quakenet] <minus> still using bam at work?

[quakenet] <matricks> yap

[quakenet] <minus> uses gradle at work

[quakenet] <minus> <insert devilish laughter>

[quakenet] <matricks> gdfg

[quakenet] <matricks> blargh

[quakenet] <matricks> I always forget what keycombo that is :/

irclink BOT 08-Jul-18 05:32 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> also, I just saw this, best green day concert ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZnBNuqqz5g

Green Day

LONDON, ENGLAND Green Day Crowd Singing Bohemian Rhapsody - Hyde P...

Green Day HUGE sold out punk show 65,000+ in LONDON with rancid ,thehives ,thestranglers ,thedamned ,thelivingend ,theorwells ,stifflittlefingers ,bash&pop ,...

irclink BOT 18-Jul-18 05:38 PM

[quakenet] <nameless_tee17> hi, can someone spare 5 minutes to help me with a small programming problem related to teeworlds? I dont think that is much of a big deal but Im not that familiar with c++ after all

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> post the problem

[quakenet] <nameless_tee17> I subclassed the "player" class. Now I do want to add an instance of this subclass to the m_apPlayers array in the gamecontext.cpp as follows m_apPlayers[ClientID] = new(ClientID) CBotPlayer(this, ClientID, StartTeam); Now since I didnt do anything with the MACRO_ALLOC_POOL_ID() macros in the subclass, everytime this line is called I raise the "size assertion error" from the entity.h. I dont know how to deal with the pools in o

[quakenet] <nameless_tee17> in the players array

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> unfortunately, subclassing that way is incompatible with the storage pools

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> as they assume a fixed size for every element

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> oh wait, you also did this in the subclass. mh...

[quakenet] <nameless_tee17> first I tried to add the same macros in the subclass as well, ye, but it didnt work because dbg_assert(ms_PoolUsed##POOLTYPE[id], "not used"); was raised then

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> ah. well

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> the easiest way out would probably be to resort to dynamic allocation

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> (I actually don't know how defining operator new() interacts with subclassing)

[quakenet] <nameless_tee17> mh...

[quakenet] <nameless_tee17> I added you as a skype friend just now, maybe we can talk in german to resolve this super quick. if you dont have time, its fine as well

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irclink BOT 20-Jul-18 09:40 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> okey, I got a git question

[quakenet] <matricks> I have a source release of bam that I don't know which version of the source tree it's from

[quakenet] <matricks> how do I search through the history to find which one it is? :D

[quakenet] <matricks> found it..

[quakenet] <minus> that was faster than expected :D

[quakenet] <matricks> yeah.....

[quakenet] <minus> i don't think there's a builtin way to do that

[quakenet] <matricks> I saw that the files in the zip achive was from 2010 aug 9

[quakenet] <minus> :D

[quakenet] <matricks> and there is a commit on that date called "set the version to 0.4.0"

[quakenet] <minus> mtime, good way

[quakenet] <minus> the other way: a shell script checking out revision by revision and diff -qr'ing

[quakenet] <matricks> yeah, I was thinking about that as well

[quakenet] <matricks> I wondered if I could have used a bisect some how :D

[quakenet] <matricks> hmm, but they are not completly the same it looks like

irclink BOT 20-Jul-18 10:03 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> now, if I just could convert the whole codebase to C99

[quakenet] <matricks> minus: btw, how have the weather in Germany been?

[quakenet] <minus> today? good

[quakenet] <matricks> like in general this spring and summer

[quakenet] <matricks> swedens weather have been.. well. abnormal

[quakenet] <minus> fairly hot in spring, pretty normal recently

[quakenet] <matricks> okey, sweden is burning up, literally

[quakenet] <matricks> 83 fires in sweden, which 4 are too big to put out

[quakenet] <minus> nice nice

[quakenet] <matricks> hot as well

[quakenet] <matricks> over 30 degrees in the shade every day

[quakenet] <minus> the only fire here right now is my eyes burning because redshift isn't working

[quakenet] <minus> oh

[quakenet] <minus> i only have ~28°C in the office every day

[quakenet] <matricks> heh, well, luckely our offices are well cooled

Fluffy 20-Jul-18 10:10 PM

cool

can i visit you minus?

snowball match

[webserfer] 21-Jul-18 03:10 AM

why deception with the number of players is forbidden on master, but allowed 16+ players?

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Fluffy 24-Jul-18 01:12 PM

Matricks i Miss u, when we play a survival game again?

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irclink BOT 29-Jul-18 01:48 AM

[quakenet] <twvoice> json.decoder.JSONDecodeError: Expecting value: line 1 column 1 (char 0) (file "/usr/lib/python3.6/json/decoder.py", line 357, in raw_decode)

irclink BOT 29-Jul-18 10:03 AM

[quakenet] <minus> disabled anti-spam extensions on the forum because someone couldn't reset their email, not expecting it to make much difference. boy, was i wrong. almost 300 spam registrations in a day

Fluffy 29-Jul-18 10:27 AM

Sorry for that

irclink BOT 30-Jul-18 07:22 PM

[quakenet] <Obani> Hey there

[quakenet] <Obani> I'm looking for someone knowing a way to contact the Alive clan in Teeworlds :)

[quakenet] <Obani> It's an fng clan, in case this helps

[quakenet] <Obani> If anyone knows a way to contact them, ping me :)

nh75y 30-Jul-18 11:40 PM

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[webserfer] 31-Jul-18 10:30 PM

hmm

irclink BOT 31-Jul-18 10:30 PM

[quakenet] <webserfer> pls ban σℓí

- 188.19.160.0/20 on master server (using ddos tools)

WTrawi 03-Aug-18 09:15 AM

What is the link for this irc channel?

[webserfer] 03-Aug-18 02:55 PM

this is #teeworlds, lol

getkey 03-Aug-18 03:00 PM

On quakenet IIRC

irclink BOT 03-Aug-18 11:29 PM

[quakenet] <rand> server on 35.204.119.214:8338 announces a vanilla ctf server with up to 32 players

irclink BOT 04-Aug-18 10:19 AM

[quakenet] <minus> oh wow, i haven't installed teeworlds on this computer i built late last year yet

[quakenet] <minus> unsurprisingly it doesn't work properly on wayland

[quakenet] <matricks> :D

[quakenet] <minus> it renders fine with xwayland but pointer constraints aren't implemented in the compositor i'm using, so the mouse is unusable

[quakenet] <minus> SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland doesn't work at all

WTrawi 04-Aug-18 06:05 PM

thanks lol

[webserfer] 05-Aug-18 08:09 PM

I understood, good = bad && bad = good (edited)

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7even/\ 11-Aug-18 11:22 PM

Are there any Russians?

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Gwendal 12-Aug-18 04:53 AM

@DanilBest

DanilBest 12-Aug-18 04:54 AM

?

Gwendal 12-Aug-18 04:56 AM

Someone asked for rus people

So i have mention u

[webserfer] 13-Aug-18 01:05 PM

@Gwendal u can mention me

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Gwendal 14-Aug-18 02:00 AM

@[webserfer] i mention u

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irclink BOT 15-Aug-18 08:47 PM

[quakenet] <twvoice> KeyError: 'block' (file "/home/ddvoice/.sopel/modules/iphub_voice.py", line 21, in check_ip_address_bad)

irclink BOT 15-Aug-18 09:53 PM

[freenode] <resamvi> i cant join any servers

[freenode] <resamvi> what kind of attack is that

[freenode] <heinrich5991> teeworlds 0.6 servers aren't protected against attackers spoofing IP addresses

[freenode] <heinrich5991> ddnet has a butt-ugly fix for that, that's why you can still join non-passworded ddnet servers

irclink BOT 15-Aug-18 10:12 PM

[freenode] <resamvi> but theres no 0.7 servers yet what can i do

[freenode] <heinrich5991> either

[freenode] <heinrich5991> 1) port the spoof protection to vanilla servers and get everyone to use it

[freenode] <heinrich5991> 2) play on a private server, not registered to the masterservers

[freenode] <heinrich5991> 3) play on a ddnet server

[freenode] <resamvi> damn it

[freenode] <resamvi> kids always ruining the fun

irclink BOT 16-Aug-18 12:05 AM

[freenode] <Digit> oh noes, every game full! bot attack!?

irclink BOT 16-Aug-18 01:04 AM

[quakenet] <nameless_tee28> /msg Q HELLO lostact@gmail.com lostact@gmail.com

Transcix 16-Aug-18 01:04 AM

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hello. can i confirm that teeworlds isn't working currently?

oh yes i see ok

Savander 16-Aug-18 01:23 PM

uuu, teeworlds record. 7k fake people

oh no, 8k. !

gwilherm 16-Aug-18 02:38 PM

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Transcix 16-Aug-18 04:33 PM

how many tees does it take to fix the internets...

irclink BOT 16-Aug-18 07:59 PM

[quakenet] <burt> so I guess teeworlds is dead now?

[quakenet] <burt> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/161980074176806912/479432476025159690/image.jpg

[quakenet] <burt> all servers are full

[quakenet] <burt> ddos of fake users :/

[quakenet] <burt> all random IP addresses https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/161980074176806912/479708682268180481/teeworlds-ddos-user-spam.png

irclink BOT 16-Aug-18 09:12 PM

[quakenet] <rand> it's time for favorites !

[quakenet] <burt> rand: how does favorites solve this? they took a list of servers from the master servers and are spamming them all with connections

[quakenet] <burt> even having a password on your server doesn't stop them from flooding connections

[quakenet] <burt> because teeworlds servers consider somebody connected as soon as the connection is open

[quakenet] <rand> in fact, some server on favorite list are not or no longer register on master server

[quakenet] <rand> i don't know why or how

[quakenet] <rand> the script do not spam these ip

n000b 16-Aug-18 09:21 PM

Burt you can still use ddnet servers xd

And if u dont register your server you can invite people on your own server

irclink BOT 16-Aug-18 10:35 PM

[quakenet] <Celmor> are servers currently being flooded/DDos'ed?

[quakenet] <burt> Celmor: yes there is a botnet flooding teeworlds servers with connections that timeout

[quakenet] <burt> so nobody can play on them

[quakenet] <burt> if you run a server you can change the port it runs on and the bots stop spamming you

[quakenet] <burt> seems like a very simple script kiddy

[quakenet] <rand> it seems like the script only gott a list of ip:port once

[quakenet] <rand> i have just started a server, i'll check tomorrow if everything is fine

irclink BOT 16-Aug-18 10:51 PM

[quakenet] <Celmor> would it help to blacklist the IPs that try to connect to the tw server and timeout on a router level?

irclink BOT 16-Aug-18 11:05 PM

[quakenet] <matricks> should redo the connection stuff and usage a challange

[quakenet] <rand> too many thing to do

[quakenet] <rand> i wonder how this could be integrate to 0.6 without backward issue

irclink BOT 17-Aug-18 12:45 AM

[quakenet] <laxa> Good news, I successfully merged from ddnet few commits into really old ddrace, maybe those my commits could be merged into DDRace

[quakenet] <laxa> I probably fucked up some things since I have some warnings

[quakenet] <laxa> Here is the repo, last 2 commits are the one to adapt to vanilla

[quakenet] <laxa> https://github.com/Laxa/teeworlds/commits/DDRace

Laxa/teeworlds

teeworlds - DEPRECATED - Go to https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet instead!

irclink BOT 17-Aug-18 12:54 AM

[quakenet] <laxa> They fix the flooding issue

irclink BOT 17-Aug-18 01:07 AM

[quakenet] <matricks> should do a proper fix :/

[quakenet] <matricks> also, why did it add md5 and not use it?

[quakenet] <laxa> I kind of merged code that I didnt wrote, it's dirty and I fucked up merging some things probably, but it actually works, it's up to you to clean the merges I did

irclink BOT 17-Aug-18 01:23 AM

[quakenet] <laxa> I'll probably try to do a cleaner fix this week-end, gotta go sleep now

[quakenet] <laxa> I'll probably also fix zatch, inq and fastrace servers if I can find the repositories

[quakenet] <laxa> Funny thing, the merge I made works with password protected servers, this is not the case for ddnet

irclink BOT 17-Aug-18 01:33 AM

[quakenet] <burt> matricks: I agree, it should at least wait until the player is in the game or spectating before considering it a "player" that is connected

[quakenet] <matricks> yeah, I think it was tribes that had a cool system for fighting ddos attacks

[quakenet] <matricks> first you do the antispoof, and when some one connects, they have to solve a problem, the more times the connect etc, the harder the problem becomes, effectivly burning cpu cycles on the attacker machines

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> what kind of challenge do you have in mind? would computing an sha256 below a certain threshold fit?

[quakenet] <matricks> dunno what they did :P

Transcix 17-Aug-18 05:46 AM

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

come on all u ppl pls help fix this since teewolrds is literally the best game ever created

i will contribute seven thousand bites of assistance just by myself, plus twelve hundred bits of knowledge ram.......

Transcix 17-Aug-18 06:29 PM

wow i was drunk

Flappie 17-Aug-18 11:16 PM

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irclink BOT 18-Aug-18 01:49 PM

[quakenet] <laxa> If anyone is running zCatch servers, I backported spoof protection and several security commits from vanilla => https://github.com/Laxa/teeworlds-zcatch

Laxa/teeworlds-zcatch

teeworlds-zcatch - A retro multiplayer shooter

n000b 18-Aug-18 06:24 PM

@laxa great job

irclink BOT 19-Aug-18 12:12 PM

[quakenet] <laxa> Also backported the patch to inQ => https://github.com/Laxa/teeworlds/tree/inQ-botdetect

Laxa/teeworlds

teeworlds - A retro multiplayer shooter

timakro 19-Aug-18 05:06 PM

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irclink BOT 21-Aug-18 06:44 PM

[quakenet] <ChillerDragon> slaps fstd around a bit with a large fishbot

[quakenet] <fstd> ChillerDragon: yes?

irclink BOT 21-Aug-18 07:00 PM

[quakenet] <fstd> ChillerDragon: how can i help you?

irclink BOT 21-Aug-18 07:12 PM

[quakenet] <ChillerDragon> all fine thnks m8

[teeworlds] <ChillerDragon> fstd: it was u ingame ?

[quakenet] <fstd> ChillerDragon: in what game?

[quakenet] <dupek> is it just me or all the servers are full>

[quakenet] <dupek> the client shows me that there are 4700 players

[quakenet] <fstd> it's a DoS

[quakenet] <dupek> oh

[quakenet] <dupek> ok

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/235

Teeworlds Slot user · Issue #235 · teeworlds/teeworlds

There is a new program by xagels, He can take up slots in servers... He does it through "Stalling" Inbetween jooining and getting the message "max ip used" also it doesnt use ip...

irclink BOT 21-Aug-18 07:53 PM

[quakenet] <rand> you may drop clients that do not get state ONLINE

[quakenet] <rand> (and stay as pending)

[quakenet] <rand> something like this https://ptpb.pw/KEd7

irclink BOT 21-Aug-18 09:16 PM

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> rand: doesn't really help, now they need to send two packets

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> eeeee ported the fix from ddnet to vanilla

[quakenet] <rand> naaah

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> mh?

[quakenet] <rand> though, i can join my server while beeing spamming

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> because the attacker doesn't send two packets currently

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> but it's trivial to attack your server as well

[quakenet] <rand> ofc

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> what we need is some kind of challenge-response, that the attacker cannot predict

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> server sends some kind of magic number and the client needs to repeat it back

[quakenet] <rand> but, we can't with actual clients do we ?

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> as said, eeeee produced a hacky patch that does that

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> it uses the snapshot acknowledging of the client

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> (ddnet has done that for ages)

[quakenet] <rand> and where is this patch ?

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> https://github.com/eeeee/ddnet/commit/47e4d2e860f6659fa084c42e216cbee61c7d56e6

wip · eeeee/ddnet@47e4d2e

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> it still has this problem though (the same as in ddnet): https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/500

Token handshake a bit brittle · Issue #500 · ddnet/ddnet

Token handshake shouldn't rely on NET_CTRLMSG_ACCEPT, that's not guaranteed to arrive. Probably better to check the first normal message you receive. Vanilla handshake assumes that the clie...

[quakenet] <rand> thx

[KFH]Yek. 22-Aug-18 05:25 AM

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Fluffy 23-Aug-18 11:36 AM

funny

irclink BOT 28-Aug-18 08:10 PM

[freenode] <Gooby323> Teeworlds is a good game

3

ritzo 28-Aug-18 09:18 PM

Joined the server.

Syntex 28-Aug-18 11:56 PM

@ritzo hey

irclink BOT 02-Sep-18 11:30 AM

[freenode] <AntiSol> hi

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 01:31 PM

Joined the server.

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 01:31 PM

Joined the server.

hello

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 01:32 PM

kinda dead

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 01:32 PM

extremely dead

one chat, one voice chat

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 01:32 PM

some would say undead

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 01:32 PM

one admin role

you changed a few things, ad least

heinrich5991 14-Sep-18 01:32 PM

yep. more dead than the IRC channel, and that's saying something

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 01:33 PM

lets try to make it active?

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 01:33 PM

you use github right

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 01:33 PM

at least I can discuss about things

I have a few ideas to do with balancing

heinrich5991 14-Sep-18 01:34 PM

can't discuss right now, need to leave five minutes ago

we can talk later — be warned though that the github is very inactive

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 01:35 PM

oh don't let us keep you then

heinrich5991 14-Sep-18 01:35 PM

see you later

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 01:35 PM

see you

irclink BOT 14-Sep-18 02:40 PM

[quakenet] <day> discord lol

[quakenet] <day> i think age isnt a problem for teeworlds. the graphic is imho timeless. I believe the main issue is that it is designed as a casual shooter. theres no community aspect inside the game.

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 02:44 PM

does irclink let us talk between discord and irc chat?

irclink BOT 14-Sep-18 02:45 PM

[quakenet] <day> but on the other hand you are dealing with a game that benefits massively from training

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 02:45 PM

we can see irc chat, can irc chat see us?

heinrich5991 14-Sep-18 02:45 PM

@ZeloAvarosa it's mostly one-way, due to spam problems

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 02:45 PM

mmm

you should have a seperate chat for irc chat

irclink BOT 14-Sep-18 02:46 PM

[teeworlds] <ZeloAvarosa> hello?

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 02:46 PM

you should also have a chat for irclink to talk to

maybe bridge-in

and have it only talk there

that way, it can limit its spam

also, quakeworlds?

irclink BOT 14-Sep-18 02:47 PM

[quakenet] <day> bridge: hello

heinrich5991 14-Sep-18 02:47 PM

quakeworlds? ^^

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 02:47 PM

neveermind

irclink BOT 14-Sep-18 02:47 PM

[teeworlds] <ZeloAvarosa> hi there,

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 02:48 PM

you should have it all in one chat, actually, it would be much easier to read

preferably have it in one chat called bridge, that way we can see our own texts and the irc chats

alrernatively, just have a seperate bridge in and out chat

at least, so irc link bot doesn’t interrupt so much

irclink BOT 14-Sep-18 02:49 PM

[teeworlds] <ZeloAvarosa> The thing about Teeworlds, is that it has the capacity to be a really popular game

[quakenet] <minus> it was a fairly popular game

[teeworlds] <ZeloAvarosa> and it died out, huh, I wonder how that worked

[teeworlds] <ZeloAvarosa> I can think of a few things to help Teeworlds popularity, one is optimising the interface, second is having a help screen/tutorial for first visitors and third is getting curators to review the game

[teeworlds] <ZeloAvarosa> i’d also recommend one button click and play with dedicated servers but I believe that may be out of scope

heinrich5991 14-Sep-18 03:36 PM

IRC chat is now in #bridge, as requested by @ZeloAvarosa

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 03:44 PM

thanks, seems to work well

@LCPL Cat im discussing in Bridge rn

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 03:45 PM

What’s that

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 03:46 PM

basically, talk from Discord to IRC chat

a link between chats

since we use discord alot, its pretty useful

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 03:46 PM

Oh nice

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 03:47 PM

As you can see, I’m considering a few things that may help the game

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 03:48 PM

A tutorial would be a good idea

Like just today 3 people joined our game and them left 2 mins later because they had no idea what todo

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 03:49 PM

i doubt us beating them up helped that

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 03:50 PM

No

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 03:51 PM

can you talk in #bridge ?

ok, good

ZombieToad 14-Sep-18 03:52 PM

most new players probably dont even find out they can turn off standard maps and gamemodes and thats where most of the players are

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 03:52 PM

I only noticed that recently

perhaps the interface has a main find match button

which plops them into an active, ping friendly server

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 03:53 PM

Like match making

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 03:53 PM

and the legacy browser like thingy can go behind a button

of course, inviting people from steam friendlist would also be optimal

basically, pre Meet your Match TF2

I need to head to bed, see you

heinrich5991 14-Sep-18 03:57 PM

interesting time zone, @ZeloAvarosa ^^

most of tw stuff happens in european time zones

ZeloAvarosa 14-Sep-18 03:59 PM

Me and Cat are Australians

it might also contribute to our visible inactivity

LCPL Cat 14-Sep-18 04:04 PM

Yeah

n000b 16-Sep-18 10:40 PM

Anyone knows if there is an app for teeworlds to use f2

Savander 16-Sep-18 11:56 PM

wut

there's ECON thing

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_settings

ec_* settings

Deleted User 21-Sep-18 09:10 PM

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Tamas 22-Sep-18 12:48 PM

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ReiTW 29-Sep-18 10:02 PM

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Chairn 29-Sep-18 10:59 PM

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OsuIst 02-Oct-18 04:37 PM

Joined the server.

ZeloAvarosa 10-Oct-18 04:43 AM

?

2015

ZombieToad 10-Oct-18 04:48 AM

just ignore his signature

xD

ZeloAvarosa 10-Oct-18 04:49 AM

alright

me and pip will test the new patch

ZombieToad 12-Oct-18 12:38 AM

also if 0.7 did release this weekend you wouldnt see (connecting) anymore

because u cant see any playerlists from the server browser

heinrich5991 12-Oct-18 08:49 PM

Sonix 13-Oct-18 12:45 PM

what map is this?

noby 13-Oct-18 12:48 PM

dm7

Sonix 13-Oct-18 12:51 PM

it looked like this on 0.7

noby 13-Oct-18 12:52 PM

i play with quads turned off but wtf lol why does it look like that

Sonix 13-Oct-18 12:53 PM

grass doodads tileset changed

and everything broke

noby 13-Oct-18 12:55 PM

lol, rip

Sonix 13-Oct-18 12:57 PM

so had to convert all the grass maps to 0.7 pretty much

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 07:41 PM

@heinrich5991

box1@box1 ~/Desktop/teeworlds0.6.5 $ bam server_release configure.lua:6: bad argument #1 to 'setfenv' (number expected, got nil) bam: script error (-t for more detail)

whats error mean

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 07:44 PM

bam -c config

eh

try bam 0.5.0 or cmake I guess

I didn't test with 0.4.0 recently

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 07:44 PM

configuration: AUTO compiler gcc AUTO stackprotector yes AUTO minmacosxsdk no AUTO macosxppc no AUTO zlib (in system path) AUTO sdl using sdl-config AUTO freetype using freetype-config notes: saved configuration to 'config.lua'

<heinrich5991> can be compiled with cmake 2.8.9+, bam 0.4.0, bam 0.5.0

HMM

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 07:46 PM

alternatively, try

diff --git a/configure.lua b/configure.lua index 19cd6ab29..20cf7c099 100644 --- a/configure.lua +++ b/configure.lua @@ -3,7 +3,9 @@ function loadfile_(filename, env) local file if _VERSION == "Lua 5.1" then file = loadfile(filename) - setfenv(file, env) + if file then + setfenv(file, env) + end else file = loadfile(filename, nil, env) end

(edited)

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 07:47 PM

@heinrich5991 i tried again after doing bam -c config and it worked

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 07:47 PM

hum

then I'm not sure what happened

yea, it works for me as well

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 07:49 PM

it cant make config.lua?

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 07:49 PM

well, bam -c config means: delete config

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 07:49 PM

but it also creates config?

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 07:49 PM

no, every command creates a config if it's not available

and if it has been deleted, it's not available ^^

from bam --help:

-c clean targets

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 07:52 PM

also getting another error on windows

bam: error: 'other\sdl\lib32\SDL.dll' does not exist and no way to generate it bam: error: a build step failed

the libs are in other\sdl\windows\lib32

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 07:56 PM

things I've not tested: compilation with bam on macos and windows

@ZombieToad try

diff --git a/bam.lua b/bam.lua index 214b9fccf..e9146c3a5 100644 --- a/bam.lua +++ b/bam.lua @@ -120,11 +120,11 @@ server_link_other = {} if family == "windows" then if platform == "win32" then - table.insert(client_depends, CopyToDirectory(".", "other\\freetype\\lib32\\freetype.dll")) - table.insert(client_depends, CopyToDirectory(".", "other\\sdl\\lib32\\SDL.dll")) + table.insert(client_depends, CopyToDirectory(".", "other\\freetype\\windows\\lib32\\freetype.dll")) + table.insert(client_depends, CopyToDirectory(".", "other\\sdl\\windows\\lib32\\SDL.dll")) else - table.insert(client_depends, CopyToDirectory(".", "other\\freetype\\lib64\\freetype.dll")) - table.insert(client_depends, CopyToDirectory(".", "other\\sdl\\lib64\\SDL.dll")) + table.insert(client_depends, CopyToDirectory(".", "other\\freetype\\windows\\lib64\\freetype.dll")) + table.insert(client_depends, CopyToDirectory(".", "other\\sdl\\windows\\lib64\\SDL.dll")) end if config.compiler.driver == "cl" then

@ZombieToad does that work?

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:00 PM

trying it

looks like its working

[ 1/15] #1 c src/base/system.c \src\base\system.h(1322) : error C2054: expected '(' to follow 'inline' src\base\system.h(1323) : error C2085: 'uint32_from_be' : not in formal parameter list src\base\system.h(1323) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before '{' src\base\system.h(1337) : error C2054: expected '(' to follow 'inline' src\base\system.h(1338) : error C2085: 'uint32_to_be' : not in formal parameter list src\base\system.h(1338) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before '{' bam: 'objs/base/system.obj' error 2 bam: error: a build step failed

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 08:04 PM

hmmm.

which version of MSVC do you use?

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:06 PM

Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0

ill use gcc instead then

idk why but gcc creates larger file sizes

@heinrich5991 lol the game pauses once all the players leave

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 08:16 PM

hm

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:16 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/commit/d4f314702425618c385bf890ec92e2c070c9f37e

unpause the game when all players left · teeworlds/teeworlds@d4f3147

i dont see where it checks if game is paused in the code

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 08:21 PM

@ZombieToad could you check whether it compiles with msvc if you replace inline with static?

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:22 PM

idk what that means xD

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 08:22 PM

if you replace inline with static in src/base/system.h

diff --git a/src/base/system.h b/src/base/system.h index c1178e7b0..28317c0d9 100644 --- a/src/base/system.h +++ b/src/base/system.h @@ -1319,7 +1319,7 @@ int str_utf8_check(const char *str); Returns: The read integer. */ -inline unsigned uint32_from_be(const void *bytes) +static unsigned uint32_from_be(const void *bytes) { const unsigned char *b = (const unsigned char *)bytes; return (b[0]<<24)|(b[1]<<16)|(b[2]<<8)|b[3]; @@ -1334,7 +1334,7 @@ inline unsigned uint32_from_be(const void *bytes) bytes - The place to write the integer to. integer - The integer to write. */ -inline void uint32_to_be(void *bytes, unsigned integer) +static void uint32_to_be(void *bytes, unsigned integer) { unsigned char *b = (unsigned char *)bytes; b[0] = (integer&0xff000000)>>24;

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:26 PM

it worked

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:38 PM

@heinrich5991 0.6.5 isnt backwards compatible?

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 08:42 PM

it is

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:43 PM

i cant join any other server with the 0.6.5 client

the server seems to be backwards compatible but not the client

Sonix 13-Oct-18 08:46 PM

i can

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:46 PM

join other servers with 0.6.5?

Sonix 13-Oct-18 08:47 PM

yeah

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:47 PM

you use windows?

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 08:48 PM

@ZombieToad self-compiled?

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:48 PM

yes

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 08:48 PM

sonix self-compiled?

which windows version do you use btw, @Sonix ?

Sonix 13-Oct-18 08:48 PM

64

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 08:48 PM

no, I mean win7/win10

Sonix 13-Oct-18 08:49 PM

10

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 08:51 PM

i used the precompiled version from teeworlds.com

and i can connect to vanilla servers

but it doesnt connect to mods

heinrich5991 13-Oct-18 08:52 PM

yea, I looked into the ddnet source code and it seems the token handshake was implemented sloppily in a way that drops CONNECT messages it does not know

PR following :/

ZombieToad 13-Oct-18 09:01 PM

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/d801ef88786156a168aec132c287c2eb209905af536b68f09da09048218b6a78/detection

noby 14-Oct-18 03:53 AM

@heinrich5991 hmm ../bam-0.4.0/bam server_release [1/4] #1 c src/osxlaunch/server.m src/osxlaunch/server.m:93:27: error: no type or protocol named 'NSWindowDelegate' [window setDelegate: (id<NSWindowDelegate>)view]; ^

ZombieToad 14-Oct-18 03:54 AM

@noby have you tried installing windows

noby 14-Oct-18 03:54 AM

lmao

heinrich5991 14-Oct-18 10:14 AM

@noby try cmake for the time being :/

Sonix 14-Oct-18 11:00 AM

Can someone provide me with the latest 0.7 build from the repo? somehow I cant compile it

for windows

heinrich5991 14-Oct-18 11:18 AM

@Sonix I think all I can do right now is help you compile it :/

don't have a windows and bam isn't optimal for cross-compiling

Sonix 14-Oct-18 11:27 AM

I hope it wont take long to fix

@heinrich5991 im using mingw to build tw

c:/mingw/bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/6.3.0/../../../../mingw32/bin/ld.exe: cannot find -lfreetype collect2.exe: error: ld returned 1 exit status

do I miss something or is the path wrong? dunno @heinrich5991

heinrich5991 14-Oct-18 11:45 AM

you have to separately download freetype

wait a sec, looking for a download link

hmm. just take the one from the 0.6.5 release and put it into the other/freetype/x86/ directory

or other/freetype/x64/ if compiling for 64 bit

@Sonix ^

Sonix 14-Oct-18 11:51 AM

I already put freetype libs in there

chuckle 14-Oct-18 12:05 PM

Joined the server.

Sonix 14-Oct-18 12:20 PM

dm3

ZeloAvarosa 14-Oct-18 12:21 PM

the mapmaking system in teeworlds is kind of awful

ChillerDragon 14-Oct-18 01:20 PM

no u

ZeloAvarosa 14-Oct-18 01:21 PM

i know im awful

thanks

Sonix 14-Oct-18 11:33 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=121697#p121697

ZombieToad 14-Oct-18 11:57 PM

nice but wheres the downloads

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:01 AM

Joined the server.

whats the Two-Way role?

ZombieToad 15-Oct-18 01:02 AM

irc bridge

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:02 AM

why u dont have it?

ZombieToad 15-Oct-18 01:03 AM

i dont need to talk to the irc people

jao 15-Oct-18 01:03 AM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:03 AM

xD

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:03 AM

lots of people joining

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:03 AM

@heinrich5991 can you give me the Two-Way role, please?

Pollex 15-Oct-18 01:11 AM

Joined the server.

Akari 15-Oct-18 01:12 AM

Joined the server.

ChillerDragon 15-Oct-18 01:13 AM

1

xd

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:14 AM

XD

louis (old acc) 15-Oct-18 01:17 AM

Joined the server.

@everyone

ChillerDragon 15-Oct-18 01:17 AM

@fokkonaut just join irc directly to kindly ask the offical tw stuff what the fuck is going on

louis (old acc) 15-Oct-18 01:17 AM

oh its an actual server

not rly

okay

plz release 0.7

ChillerDragon 15-Oct-18 01:18 AM

it is rlsd already u nobo (edited)

louis (old acc) 15-Oct-18 01:19 AM

nuh uh

where

ChillerDragon 15-Oct-18 01:20 AM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/releases/tag/0.7.0

https://imgur.com/a/jRUUUtA

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

louis (old acc) 15-Oct-18 01:20 AM

is it good

ChillerDragon 15-Oct-18 01:21 AM

we will see what the future brings

i never actually tested 0.7

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:25 AM

Teeworlds 0.7 Highlights: 1. Flag prediction = rip

2.German translation still a joke

3.SUR (gamemode), if ur dead , u cant spectate anyone , getting "invalid spectator ID used "

4.You need to reconnect for changing name and skin. (I can understand it for the name)

(edited)

so far nice release

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:26 AM

Joined the server.

HMMM a new place if deen bans me out of ddnet dc

(edited)

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:27 AM

?

so many joiners

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:29 AM

@ShootXen what you mean by flag prediction?

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:31 AM

if someone else has the flag

it's flying a bit behind him (edited)

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:31 AM

xD

gj

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:31 AM

but if you got the flag

it's fixed on ur tee

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:32 AM

y

i dont like what Oy did to the game

at all

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:32 AM

@ZeloAvarosa if there is a way to compile TeeUniverse's linux product, we might end up using that instead of the regular

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:32 AM

@ZeloAvarosa whats bad about it?

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:33 AM

i tried it out and i couldnt seem to

do anything

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:33 AM

I guess Oy really wants teeworlds dead

imo

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:33 AM

all i was able to do was copy and paste a section

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:33 AM

its not like you dont know what to do and there is no a good kind of tutorial for that?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:33 AM

@ZeloAvarosa if you need help, let me know

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:33 AM

whos Oy

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:33 AM

its easy to use

@ZeloAvarosa tw dev

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:34 AM

Teeworlds God

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:34 AM

thats the Problem

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:34 AM

not for begginers tho, remember my first maps

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:34 AM

is he here?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:34 AM

communit, doesnt know Oy

oy not playing tw, community not using github

we need to actually connect both

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:34 AM

@LCPL Cat oy

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:34 AM

Oy is doing what he wants

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:35 AM

fokko, can you teach cat how to do maps

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:35 AM

heinrich actually not co-op working with Oy?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:35 AM

Who is cat?

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:35 AM

he qlso wants to learn,

a friend of mine

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:35 AM

Sure

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:35 AM

he should pull 0.7 back and fix that shit (edited)

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:35 AM

I mean, im in bed right now xd

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:35 AM

i still need to learn C++

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:35 AM

but @Cellegen | 🇭🇺 is also able to map a bit

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

there is any permission for heinrich to do smth about it or,

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

@ZeloAvarosa ez

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

i am

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

but I can help with balancing and such

maybe we should organise the server better

have chats on map design, development and balancing?

as well as the irc chat?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

@fokkonaut who i need to help also

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

fuck man, need to get up at 6:30

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

i dunno

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

5 hours

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

xd

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

go offline then

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

I can help with balancing

gnite fokko

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:36 AM

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 @ZeloAvarosa needs help

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:37 AM

drink a coffee morning

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:37 AM

no, i'll stay here

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:37 AM

not now, im at school

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:37 AM

i should probably start drinking coffee

never tried it

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:37 AM

go to sleeeeeeeeeep

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:37 AM

i'll be online whole night, i dont have school for now

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:37 AM

a coffee a day keep your problems away

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:37 AM

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

also try to eat aspirin if you will be more suck during day

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

5 hours then my alarm is ringing x.x

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

no joke for me it worked

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

@ZeloAvarosa where are you from?

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

Australia

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

im in bed and youre in school? xd (edited)

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

amerika.

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

ah, im from Germany

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:38 AM

you are European, arent you

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

ye

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

both

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

thought so

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

@ZeloAvarosa why?

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

i guessed

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

^^

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

Well, i can generally tell

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

01:40

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

yes, xen (edited)

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

if people are asleep when im at school in the morning

likely european

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

or russian

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

if its afternoon/evening

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:39 AM

what time is it for u?

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:40 AM

its america

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:40 AM

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:40 AM

it is 9:40am here

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:40 AM

lel

1:40am here

Just for me, i always get confused: when its midnight, its 1am right?

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:40 AM

7 hour difference

12am

is midnight

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:41 AM

erm ye

and 12pm is noon

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:41 AM

...

12am is noon

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:41 AM

? xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:41 AM

12pm is midnight

or HMMM

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:41 AM

@ZeloAvarosa said 12am is midnight

see

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:42 AM

how is it work?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:42 AM

u also get confused xd (edited)

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:42 AM

so wait, 1:42am -> noon is not 12am?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:42 AM

?

1:42am is in the night

xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:43 AM

i mean compere to that

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:43 AM

am is morning, pm is evening

idk

just google it man xd

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:43 AM

i wont i wanna be stupid so i'll get more money during school

cuz as you can see XD,

every month here (in germany) i get more likely minimum 400 euros

if everything is alright

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:45 AM

12am is midnight

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 ur in germany?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:45 AM

yes

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:45 AM

lel where

what city

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:45 AM

12pm is midday

it changes from am to pm at 12’s

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:45 AM

yunno Hof?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:45 AM

ye

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:46 AM

so 11am becomes 12pm

and 11pm becomes 12am

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:46 AM

cuz of 0:00

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 01:46 AM

if this is such a problem, just google it

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:46 AM

it restarts

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:46 AM

xD

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 which city?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:46 AM

HOF

xd

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:46 AM

Hof isnt a city xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:46 AM

ikr

i wont tell ya

cuz why not

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:46 AM

stupid xd

tell

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:47 AM

also i will be travelling into some sort of city nearby

so i can tell

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:47 AM

Just tell me xd

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:47 AM

Naila

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:47 AM

Not germany

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:47 AM

it is

lol

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:47 AM

where

Naila? xd

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:47 AM

Hof - Naila

xd

it is a village

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:48 AM

where is it

Bavaria?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:48 AM

like in the corner of east

idk

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:48 AM

near munich?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:49 AM

ik that its near österreich

but idk like where exactly

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:49 AM

so in the SE?

south east

of germany

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:49 AM

might be

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:49 AM

so Bavaria?

Bayern

Oktoberfest over already?

and why u even there? xd

and @ChillerDragon is from Munich, also in Bavaria

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 wake up

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:52 AM

oh

near münchberg

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:53 AM

idk whats that

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:53 AM

._.

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:53 AM

Munich = München

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:53 AM

google maps?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:53 AM

its north west xd (edited)

so completely opposite of bavaria

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:54 AM

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:54 AM

xd

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:54 AM

its a bit far

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:54 AM

why r u in GER

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:55 AM

my parents wanted to get a better job

so am i too

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:55 AM

so you will learn german?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:55 AM

i do actually aber nicht so viel

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:55 AM

warum?

you need to learn more

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:55 AM

weil ich habe nicht schule von jetzt (edited)

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:56 AM

wym

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:56 AM

xd

i mean i have a break

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:56 AM

you have no school yet?

oh

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:56 AM

yap

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:56 AM

like holidays?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:56 AM

till christmas

yes

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:56 AM

:o

wait

u had school here before?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:56 AM

once in Österreich

in Wien

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:57 AM

oh okay

Go to Penny. xd

get me a drink

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:57 AM

thats how i a little bit can understand the german

no

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:57 AM

why

i want a coke

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:57 AM

loser buy it on ebay

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:57 AM

xD

ich kann deutsch

und du?

show me ur skills

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:58 AM

NiChT sO ViEl IcH kAnN fÖrShEsTe DeUtCh

hier

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:58 AM

försheste? (edited)

xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:58 AM

xD

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:59 AM

whats that

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:59 AM

shit i need to learn while im starting a break

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:59 AM

yes

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:59 AM

but i was most likely unable to learn

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:59 AM

you mean verstehen?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:59 AM

yes i ment that.

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 01:59 AM

^^

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:00 AM

i have depression yunno

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:00 AM

dont

shit xD

2 am

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:01 AM

i literally cant force myself to learn while im thinking of something else

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:01 AM

the church just rang 2 times

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:01 AM

HMMM

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:01 AM

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 but u have to

you know, my window is open and the church is like 2km away

but still, i heard it

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:01 AM

ik that, i do, but not on my level tho

bing bong

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:01 AM

man im stupid

xd

4 hours left

to sleep

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:02 AM

Morn

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:02 AM

who r u

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:02 AM

a visitor

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:02 AM

Mates if zero

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:02 AM

xd

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:02 AM

Zero

Fuck

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:02 AM

Mate of zelo? (edited)

xD

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:02 AM

Zelo

Autocorrect is a pain

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:02 AM

zelo (zorro infentities)

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:03 AM

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 wish me luck for school (i guess i will fall asleep)

4 hours until my alarm

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:03 AM

do it like a pro

i will send a link wait

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:03 AM

xD

pro

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:04 AM

...

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:04 AM

hi

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 do you know Bremen?

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:04 AM

@ZeloAvarosa did you want something

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:05 AM

bremen? no

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:05 AM

google it

im about 1 hour away from it

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:05 AM

oh

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:05 AM

@LCPL Cat yeah

cellegen and fokko are offering to help us with mapping

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:06 AM

in my language we call it Bréma

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:06 AM

xD

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:06 AM

Heck yeah

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:06 AM

Bréma sounds weird

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:06 AM

ye

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:06 AM

@ZeloAvarosa its funny, everyone just calling me fokko

i mean im ok with it

but its like everyone told each other

xd

u know?

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:07 AM

Because of that your name is naut

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:07 AM

xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:07 AM

why not they're calling me Celle or Hiro

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:07 AM

@LCPL Cat where do you need help with mapping/ what do you know yet?

@ZeloAvarosa ^

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

basically

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

lol pin

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

your username is fokko

naut

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

xd

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

which is easily shortened to fokko

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

fokkonut ;D

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

celle i guess can be shortened to that

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

u

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

I try using it but it was too bloody complicated

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

they always call me Cellegay >;C :~:

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:08 AM

btw, are you at school?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

im in bed

xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

me2

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

Yes person (edited)

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

oh

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

nice

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

James, huh?

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

xd

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

you only need to know space and Embedded images and you'll be fine

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

Well

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:09 AM

ye, envelopes are too much

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:10 AM

i would like to design myself the editor as i want

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:10 AM

i started using envelopes after 8 years and still only know a bit about them and only color envs tho xd

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:10 AM

like on photoshop

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:10 AM

i play tw for 10 years, map for like 9 years or 8 and started using envs 2 years ago

nice xd

or 1 year

ago

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:11 AM

playing tw exactly 8 years, 5 years of mapping and 1 year of animation design

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:12 AM

me and cat are irl friends

we play it semi regularly

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:13 AM

thats nice

do you guys play in 0.6 or already in 0.7? xd

just got released 4 hours ago

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 Photoshop != Teeworlds xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 02:14 AM

oh hell no they probably wont do that :c

i'll wait for 0.7.1

fixed by heinrich

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:15 AM

last played in 0.6

i was going to draw designs for tutorial maps and menu design

but i got distracted

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:22 AM

man i should sleep now

good night

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 02:23 AM

gnite

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 02:46 AM

befor heinrich is releasing 7.1 he should give it out to test it

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:48 AM

why?

i trust heinrich xd

Oy shouldve given 0.7 out to test it xD

louis (old acc) 15-Oct-18 02:49 AM

ur mom xD

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:49 AM

u

louis (old acc) 15-Oct-18 02:49 AM

u

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 03:04 AM

[quakenet] <Oy> 0.7 seems ready for release

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 03:06 AM

Oy needs to talk more

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 03:06 AM

Oy needs to release less

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 03:06 AM

if we remain in a decentralised chat like this, we need clear communication

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 03:06 AM

As I said earlier, Oy doesnt play Teeworlds and the community doesnt use Github

and Oy doesnt like if it isnt how he wants it

so basically ddnet is a thing he doesnt want -> rls 0.7 and make it modding unfriendly

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:14 AM

Teeworlds 0.7 Bug Report By Cellegen

before publishing 0.7

i made a report

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 03:15 AM

like what one?

cant read it

colorblinded

jao 15-Oct-18 03:16 AM

lol why do u suggest to add a feature to map for other gametypes

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:17 AM

man.

jao 15-Oct-18 03:17 AM

vanilla client is only for vanilla

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:17 AM

i want the editor to improve like TeeUniverse.

as THE FUCKING MENU IMPROVED

like 100000% better

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 03:17 AM

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 Oy is against modding, so he will be against mapping for other gametypes xD

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:18 AM

fuck man

there is a way of making ddnet client look like in 0.7 ?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 03:18 AM

what for? (edited)

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:19 AM

having a better feeling when i open this shit.

obviously.

jao 15-Oct-18 03:19 AM

and you shouldn't base your reports on ddnet client standards

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:19 AM

hmmm but also my personal opinion about it

what is SHOULD be improved or be fixed

jao 15-Oct-18 03:20 AM

but you can't lable it a bug if it is none

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:20 AM

no need to care if it doesnt need to

there is one

or two

as you already saw in the pictures

jao 15-Oct-18 03:20 AM

the whole thing is labled as "bug report" xd

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:20 AM

HMMM

the others are just personal

about the question i took about making ddnet client look like 0.7, it can be possible?

jao 15-Oct-18 03:22 AM

sure

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:22 AM

because i like much better how it is look

and everybody should agree with that

ZombieToad 15-Oct-18 03:37 AM

oys been planning this release all week you had that time to test it

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 04:06 AM

like okay sure, i want to see how the browser will end up

ScReeNy 15-Oct-18 04:15 AM

Joined the server.

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 04:34 AM

Oy cunt where you at (edited)

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 07:02 AM

@LCPL Cat @ZeloAvarosa still in school?

I just woke up xD (edited)

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 hi

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 07:07 AM

We are still at school but we ain’t in it

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 10:03 AM

im home

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 11:35 AM

nice

idfk who Oy is or what role he is on now, but i would like to say... that what he's doing... is actualy wrong

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 11:38 AM

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 what is he doing

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 11:42 AM

posting something that is not offically done

like playing around the client

but not seeing the results of OUR problem

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:18 PM

Okay! I need to fucking talk to Oy, cuz what i feel about that is not good. The fact that he wanted to bring 0.7 alive, releasing it and hope for the best, i see on the results that it isn't what people will like. Oy... you're gonna making a cannon thing with that you know that right?... Even tho you are against the modding section of the open source system, at least try to see what we're pointing on you. This is your responsibility to do something that it is gonna be both useful, both nice, both fun to play. If you're not gonna bring any new at all, then what is your point of touching 0.7 with your hands? ....OKAY, in editor Pipette, and new browser... BOY. this is like a worse version of 0.6 dude. If you actually dont see what you are making right now... than i would say... that this is gonna be a failure for ya.... why? because as your perspective, you think that people wont change by using that, and they will get fun. Isn't it curious that most of the people who actually joined tw (its like more than 80%) wanted to play different mods, because they are BORED of playing the same thing over and over again. And sorry, about what you are thinking of the way "teeworlds will die", and about how you deal with it... this is one of the reasons why should we actually hire you up. imo.

Sonix 15-Oct-18 01:28 PM

Heh.. He wont read ur message here

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:28 PM

hmm somebody can msg to him?

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:44 PM

I would say, Oy will ignore ur text

cuz' the way 0.7 came out is a sign for that he doesn't really care (edited)

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:45 PM

it was only opinion. i dont care if he wont read it, but at least see that i care about it

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:45 PM

you are not alone trust me

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:45 PM

:/

ShootXen 15-Oct-18 01:46 PM

but you could see over the past years how Oy responded to the community

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:47 PM

ik that he has problems overtime and he does not gonna go for it in a second, but cmon he actually deny to bring what people wanted

i saw.

discusting

the people who actually feel like mods were a mistake

jao 15-Oct-18 01:53 PM

when you call someone disgusting for having a legit opinion

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 01:55 PM

the way it looks is discusting, not the people :lol:

i forgot to mention that

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:37 PM

why is the tee from the discord server logo mirrored on the y axis? @heinrich5991

fokkonaut 15-Oct-18 02:44 PM

oh, the teeworlds logo is just mirrored xd

in general

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 03:20 PM

@Cellegen | 🇭🇺 the game is open source right? So why don’t we as a community make it they way we want to play it

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:20 PM

i spoke to some developers that there is a way that i can make my own

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 03:20 PM

And not use oy’s product

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:21 PM

i guess there is a way

just idk how to do that

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 03:22 PM

Simple we ask the community what they want and try and implement it in a different version as best we can

I am sure there are some passionate players who would be willing to help (edited)

Savander 15-Oct-18 03:31 PM

There's a community product. Called DDNet

But, I guess. He's talking about official client

not "fan"-made one

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:33 PM

actually i was talking about making ddnet client looks like 0.7

Savander 15-Oct-18 03:33 PM

so, join DDnet discord :d

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:33 PM

i did

Savander 15-Oct-18 03:34 PM

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:34 PM

also pipette bug

not completely perfect but can improve

Savander 15-Oct-18 03:35 PM

not perfect bug?

and you can improve it, so it can be better bug

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:35 PM

color pick is good but it takes a bit darker color

LCPL Cat 15-Oct-18 03:38 PM

DM the link plz

ZeloAvarosa 15-Oct-18 03:40 PM

dm for me too

if oy isnt going to listen to the community, then its the community to try and make the game

we will make one better

with blackjack

and hookers

Joined the server.

oof

im not smart

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 15-Oct-18 03:45 PM

just to mention i respect what Oy is want with the 0.7 version which is not updated for a long time

mind 15-Oct-18 05:35 PM

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Sonix 16-Oct-18 09:47 PM

@heinrich5991 can i get 2-way?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 17-Oct-18 02:31 PM

@heinrich5991 doesn't need a better host with better vps for the master servers?

heinrich5991 17-Oct-18 02:34 PM

no

need a better protocol

getkey 17-Oct-18 03:41 PM

Shit this is completely a teeworlds rip-off http://kugeln.io

I wonder if it uses DDNetJS stuff

ChillerDragon 17-Oct-18 06:06 PM

it doesnt look like ddnetjs stuff at all

didnt some already sent a link in this discord already? its a simple 2d shoter thats nothing special. And they just implemented a hook so it might look similar

shaX 18-Oct-18 06:36 PM

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JadenKeny 20-Oct-18 04:07 AM

Please, someone plays with me.

Dune 21-Oct-18 03:45 PM

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Sonix 21-Oct-18 03:45 PM

hello

fokkonaut 21-Oct-18 03:46 PM

yo

LordSk 21-Oct-18 03:46 PM

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Dune 21-Oct-18 03:46 PM

yo

Sonix 21-Oct-18 03:49 PM

hi @LordSk

lan 21-Oct-18 03:50 PM

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fokkonaut 21-Oct-18 03:50 PM

@Sonix what u think about the srv? xd (edited)

LordSk 21-Oct-18 03:50 PM

heeeeeey

fokkonaut 21-Oct-18 03:50 PM

its in alpha @Sonix

Sonix 21-Oct-18 03:51 PM

the flags idea is funny

fokkonaut 21-Oct-18 03:51 PM

you mean hooking or dropping?

or both

Sonix 21-Oct-18 03:51 PM

both

fokkonaut 21-Oct-18 03:51 PM

^^

ChillerDragon 21-Oct-18 06:15 PM

years ago some vanilla pro said he wants the feature i forgot who it was

ZombieToad 22-Oct-18 07:35 AM

0.7 just keeps getting worse for modders

in 0.6 it used to be that m_armor and m_health were clamped

case NETOBJTYPE_CHARACTER: { CNetObj_Character *pObj = (CNetObj_Character *)pData; if(sizeof(*pObj) != Size) return -1; pObj->m_PlayerFlags = ClampInt("m_PlayerFlags", pObj->m_PlayerFlags, 0, 256); pObj->m_Health = ClampInt("m_Health", pObj->m_Health, 0, 10); pObj->m_Armor = ClampInt("m_Armor", pObj->m_Armor, 0, 10); pObj->m_AmmoCount = ClampInt("m_AmmoCount", pObj->m_AmmoCount, 0, 10); pObj->m_Weapon = ClampInt("m_Weapon", pObj->m_Weapon, 0, NUM_WEAPONS-1); pObj->m_Emote = ClampInt("m_Emote", pObj->m_Emote, 0, 6); pObj->m_AttackTick = ClampInt("m_AttackTick", pObj->m_AttackTick, 0, max_int); return 0; }

now in 0.7 if you have a mod where health or armour is above or below 0 the character is discarded

case NETOBJTYPE_CHARACTER: { CNetObj_Character *pObj = (CNetObj_Character *)pData; if(sizeof(*pObj) != Size) return -1; if(!CheckInt("m_Health", pObj->m_Health, 0, 10)) return -1; if(!CheckInt("m_Armor", pObj->m_Armor, 0, 10)) return -1; if(!CheckInt("m_Weapon", pObj->m_Weapon, 0, NUM_WEAPONS-1)) return -1; if(!CheckInt("m_Emote", pObj->m_Emote, 0, 6)) return -1; if(!CheckInt("m_AttackTick", pObj->m_AttackTick, 0, max_int)) return -1; if(!CheckFlag("m_TriggeredEvents", pObj->m_TriggeredEvents, COREEVENTFLAG_GROUND_JUMP|COREEVENTFLAG_AIR_JUMP|COREEVENTFLAG_HOOK_ATTACH_PLAYER|COREEVENTFLAG_HOOK_ATTACH_GROUND|COREEVENTFLAG_HOOK_HIT_NOHOOK)) return -1; return 0; }

@heinrich5991 commented on 6 Apr 2014 matricks said that the objects containing integers out of range should simply be discarded.

@fokkonaut this is why your invisible on ur ddnet mod if ur frozen more than 3 seconds

noby 22-Oct-18 07:39 AM

+1, this problem was causing weird bugs on my fng mod until @ZombieToad figured this out

fokkonaut 22-Oct-18 07:41 AM

lol

And yes, 0.7 is just bad for modding, oy wanted it like this

@ZombieToad which file is it?

ZombieToad 22-Oct-18 07:46 AM

@fokkonaut character.cpp

i think

m_Armor=(m_FreezeTime >= 0)?10-(m_FreezeTime/15):0;

fokkonaut 22-Oct-18 07:47 AM

ah ye, that line

Whats the smartest way to fix it?

noby 22-Oct-18 07:48 AM

//

fokkonaut 22-Oct-18 07:48 AM

without commenting it out xD

ZombieToad 22-Oct-18 07:50 AM

m_Armor=(m_FreezeTime >= 0 && m_FreezeTime <= 150)?10-(m_FreezeTime/15):0;

this might work

fokkonaut 22-Oct-18 07:51 AM

Will try it later, thanks :)

noby 22-Oct-18 07:52 AM

(commenting it out fixed it for me except armor always stays at 10/10, i didnt see this as a problem)

fokkonaut 22-Oct-18 07:58 AM

i know that this will set it to always 10

but i didnt want that xd

Spurde 22-Oct-18 09:16 AM

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redix 27-Oct-18 12:05 PM

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ZombieToad 27-Oct-18 03:02 PM

@Dune hey are u online

@Dune can i can the 2way role

Dune 27-Oct-18 03:14 PM

@ZombieToad hey

I'm afraid the admin is heinrich and I wouldn't have the rights

oh, maybe I do actually.

Seems like the only role I can give is admin for some reason

ah, I think @heinrich5991 messed things up and said Admin is a lower rank than two-way lol

so I can't give two-way

ZombieToad 27-Oct-18 03:21 PM

i guess i could reply to lordsk here

Dune 27-Oct-18 03:21 PM

wait, I'm fixing it

but yeah you can

ZombieToad 27-Oct-18 03:22 PM

just didnt want to leave the question unanswered for the irc people

Dune 27-Oct-18 03:22 PM

should be good now

you can talk on #bridge

Zatline 27-Oct-18 07:29 PM

Joined the server.

hello friends

Dune 27-Oct-18 07:32 PM

hey zatline!

You can now write in #bridge

Sonix 27-Oct-18 07:32 PM

hi

Dune 27-Oct-18 07:33 PM

@Zatline @ZombieToad it goes without saying that #bridge is under IRC rules ^^

Dune 27-Oct-18 09:14 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=rules/irc_rules

ZombieToad 27-Oct-18 09:33 PM

"Ops are never wrong, if they are, they are still right."

Dune 28-Oct-18 12:29 AM

yeah @ZombieToad some guy was flaming me on DM servers, trying to provoke me

ZombieToad 28-Oct-18 12:30 AM

thats me

2

Dune 28-Oct-18 12:30 AM

wow, really

I'm disappointed

1

well, nice to know ^^

ZombieToad 28-Oct-18 12:44 AM

i feel like u hated me just because i like ddrace

pls dont hate on russians they are people too

execpt the ones who host russian mlp gmod servers

LordSk 28-Oct-18 12:48 AM

what are you trying to accomplish here?

ZombieToad 28-Oct-18 12:49 AM

just wanted to know if that was the real dune

and be transparent about my "provoke"

LordSk 28-Oct-18 12:51 AM

why not pm him then?

settle your private matter privately

ZombieToad 28-Oct-18 12:52 AM

tbh i didnt think it was him

and thought he was gonna say its a faker

Zatline 28-Oct-18 02:36 AM

guys Inkscape is so frustrating me

it has big scaling issues on 4k it's such a mess I don't know what to do

Zatline 28-Oct-18 02:44 AM

there are two options for scaling I either system scale that is 1080p scaled up to 4k but then everything is blured and washy or I don't system scale but then everything is so tiny it's ridiculous

ChillerDragon 28-Oct-18 07:55 AM

@Zatline omg itz Zatline!!! Nice to see you agian :) You should contact SkizZ and create some tw yt content together hehe

Zatline 28-Oct-18 07:55 AM

haha ;D

ChillerDragon 28-Oct-18 07:56 AM

Im dead serious

Do it! We Need it (edited)

Zatline 28-Oct-18 08:02 AM

but YouTube algo sucks (edited)

Dune 28-Oct-18 09:15 AM

Don't you have HiDpi mode @Zatline

Zatline 28-Oct-18 09:18 AM

not really in Inkscape there is an option to make symbols very big sure it make symbols big but keeps everything else still tiny so you end up with a mix of both which is even worst

Dune 28-Oct-18 09:21 AM

I meant from the system

you can choose applications to execute in HiDpi mode right

Zatline 28-Oct-18 11:21 AM

yeah that was the one option that I mentioned above where the system scales it up to 4k but from a lower resolution upwards which gives me a lil washed out and blury image

Dune 28-Oct-18 11:21 AM

ha I see

well it's 1080p so it's more blurry, surely :|

I don't think there's a fix to that unless they implement HiDpi?

Zatline 28-Oct-18 11:23 AM

all hope goes to the devs of inkscape that they hard code a good scaling solution in the next version

some adobe programs had a similar issue not so long ago but it all got fixed by now

but those are comercialized softwares so there naturaly is more incentive to get 4k and highDPI rdy quick (edited)

Inkscape is free, developed by a handful of voluntaries there is no incentive other than passion at best .. it's just I've been working with Inkscape for so long now I depend on it xD

Dune 28-Oct-18 11:32 AM

:/

morality: use proprietary software? :P

Zatline 28-Oct-18 11:35 AM

well I tried Illustrator couldn't figure out a workflow, I don't find it as efficient as Inkscape ...

and the monthly abo thing is expansive, pure money grab

Dune 28-Oct-18 11:36 AM

ouch

Zatline 28-Oct-18 11:38 AM

btw I worked the whole night on some fresh UI concepts addressing all the open issues on the srv browser (edited)

Dune 28-Oct-18 11:40 AM

ooooh :D

nice :)

Sonix 28-Oct-18 12:10 PM

hi

Dune 28-Oct-18 12:12 PM

hey @Sonix

PRs are short-lived on github nowadays

:)

Sonix 28-Oct-18 12:17 PM

thats great to hear

ChillerDragon 28-Oct-18 12:59 PM

@Zatline who cares about the yt algo. Just produce some tw content and all tw players will watch it.. no algo needed

Fisico 28-Oct-18 05:23 PM

Joined the server.

hi all

Dune 28-Oct-18 05:24 PM

Hey Fisico

Welcome!

Fisico 28-Oct-18 05:25 PM

@Zatline Affinity Designer is great... switched from inkscape... only 50€

Dune 28-Oct-18 07:08 PM

got banned on a server for stressing network :(

Fluffy 28-Oct-18 08:45 PM

stop flooding!

Dune 28-Oct-18 09:06 PM

I just reconnected fast!

Dune 29-Oct-18 06:04 PM

@Zatline @Sonix there's a small graphics bug with the particles. Would either of you take that issue?

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1581

Armor icons are slightly cropped · Issue #1581 · teeworlds/teeworlds

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Fisico 29-Oct-18 07:04 PM

hi

is 1500x1500px for an updated sun big enough? even for 4k?

Dune 29-Oct-18 07:12 PM

Sounds a bit tight

Can't be vectors?

Fisico 29-Oct-18 07:15 PM

tw does not like vectors for mapres...

the 1500x1500 sun is 50kb right now without compression

Sonix 29-Oct-18 07:35 PM

I have no access to the source files @Dune sadly (edited)

Dune 29-Oct-18 07:44 PM

@Sonix huh, there are source files?

Can't this be a quickfix edit?

Isn't it just moving image bits around?

Sonix 29-Oct-18 07:45 PM

It would be cleaner done from the source file directly

i believe @Zatline has access to the dropbox folder containing all the graphics shared by the artists (landil etc)

Dune 29-Oct-18 07:46 PM

huh

and it's not posted on the graphical dev subforum? :/

Sonix 29-Oct-18 07:47 PM

correct

Fisico 29-Oct-18 07:51 PM

@Dune so how big should i make them? 2000x2000

Dune 29-Oct-18 07:51 PM

@Sonix an idea on that? how big should suns be for 4k

4k is 3840 x 2160 pixels

if the sun is half of the screen it's like 2k 1k

Zatline 29-Oct-18 07:52 PM

at least double the size of what it is now I'd say

Dune 29-Oct-18 07:52 PM

what is it now?

Fisico 29-Oct-18 07:52 PM

no thats not enough.. its very pixelated @fullhd

Zatline 29-Oct-18 07:52 PM

then double again

Fisico 29-Oct-18 07:52 PM

256x256 it is right now

Zatline 29-Oct-18 07:53 PM

make it 1024x²

Fisico 29-Oct-18 07:53 PM

ok

Zatline 29-Oct-18 07:54 PM

are the eyes on the sun exactly 1x2 format?

Fisico 29-Oct-18 07:54 PM

i dont know

Zatline 29-Oct-18 07:55 PM

check that cuz only then it's perfectly teeish

:p

Dune 29-Oct-18 08:16 PM

@Zatline do you have access to said dropbox with sources of game tiles?

Fisico 29-Oct-18 09:53 PM

@Dune what do you think.. is 700kb for desert_sun to much?

teeworlds can't handle pngs with modern compression.. i dont know why so i can only use one tool and this is not compressing much

Dune 29-Oct-18 10:20 PM

it's difficult to judge

I think it's a bit much

what do you think @Sonix @Zatline

Zatline 29-Oct-18 10:21 PM

perhaps a bit yes

but for todays day n age as more and more fiber glass connection are established and pcs getting more powerfull each day, maybe not anymore

fokkonaut 29-Oct-18 10:33 PM

@heinrich5991 please fix this role with color

Dune 29-Oct-18 10:42 PM

arr, my bad

@Zatline do you have access to the dropbox with sources of game tiles? We need to change the game tiles, they're cropped atm

Zatline 29-Oct-18 10:45 PM

what game tiles u talking about?

Dune 29-Oct-18 10:45 PM

game.png

Zatline 29-Oct-18 10:46 PM

yes I do have access to all graphics Landil an me have reworked

yea I think that one has been remaked as well

Dune 29-Oct-18 10:46 PM

have you considered sharing them on the private part of the forum? @Sonix said he can't touch that without the sources

Zatline 29-Oct-18 10:48 PM

I think the remaked game.png has not been posted anywhere yet so 0.7.x is using the old most likely it could be that the remaked already fixed the issue cuz I think I remember to have done that.

Dune 29-Oct-18 10:49 PM

but it kinda sucks that artists aren't sure if they can work on stuff or can't, because they don't have the sources :/

Zatline 29-Oct-18 10:50 PM

it's all on Dropbox man it's been ages pls excuse me

Dune 29-Oct-18 10:51 PM

of course, it's no problem, I was just suggesting sharing that with the artists ^^

Zatline 29-Oct-18 10:53 PM

we can do that sure but maybe get Landil first to agree just to be on the save side

Dune 29-Oct-18 10:53 PM

but Landil isn't anywhere to be seen :(

oh well

Zatline 29-Oct-18 10:53 PM

could try contact him over Skype

Dune 29-Oct-18 10:54 PM

haven't seen him online lately. I heard he's very busy with family

Zatline 29-Oct-18 10:56 PM

yea just looking at Skype when he was last online "not seen for days" which must be long

Dune 29-Oct-18 10:56 PM

that means we depend on you for https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1581 then

Armor icons are slightly cropped · Issue #1581 · teeworlds/teeworlds

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Zatline 29-Oct-18 11:05 PM

just checked the Dropbox turns out that we had not remaked the game.png as a part of the gfx project (edited)

but went trough some personal stuff and found an actual remake that I made .. knew I had done it

but it has the style of the health & armor icons changed to what they look ingame when spawn on the map

think I did that change as part of the UI project

Dune 29-Oct-18 11:20 PM

@Zatline cool!

releasing that anytime? :)

Zatline 29-Oct-18 11:23 PM

sure

personaly played with it a lot back in the days I think the weapons appear sharper in game if my memory is correct

the withe flag was for a new gametype I had in mind calld "hold the flag" it's death match with an objectiv

player who holds the flag longest wins

Dune 29-Oct-18 11:28 PM

oooh.

any idea if that fixes the bug?

Zatline 29-Oct-18 11:29 PM

no not really but you could try

see if it does

Dune 29-Oct-18 11:35 PM

are they compatible? with that white flag, maybe the size increased

Zatline 29-Oct-18 11:37 PM

it should yea the space the white flag is was just unused empty space before

Dune 29-Oct-18 11:38 PM

it does fix but armor looks black now?

Zatline 29-Oct-18 11:39 PM

ye cuz it's black on the file ^^

Dune 29-Oct-18 11:39 PM

grenade launcher feels blurry idk if that's just me

huh

that's weird, that's by design

?

Zatline 29-Oct-18 11:39 PM

yea maybe it was the otherway around then o_o

Dune 29-Oct-18 11:40 PM

no transparent particles :<

Zatline 29-Oct-18 11:44 PM

what do u mean?

Dune 29-Oct-18 11:44 PM

i mean the heart/armor

there's no alpha

Zatline 29-Oct-18 11:44 PM

yeah that's how I played years ago xD

yeah it's intended

it was actually part of the UI revamp since those icons are UI

I'm actually ingame rightnow for me granade launcher looks as unsharp as everything else but that's the 4k scaling thing

Sonix 30-Oct-18 02:52 PM

hi

LordSk 30-Oct-18 02:56 PM

hello @Sonix

Dune 30-Oct-18 02:57 PM

hi

jao 30-Oct-18 03:13 PM

@Dune thanks for your efforts

Dune 30-Oct-18 03:15 PM

thanks :)

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:05 AM

hey @Zatline @android272

android272 01-Nov-18 01:05 AM

Yah

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:05 AM

Does any of you know what's going on with the tilesets? :)

I'm a bit out of the loop

Nice to see you here by the way, android

greetings :)

android272 01-Nov-18 01:08 AM

Well Zatline provided a dropbox link with all 0.6 and reworked 0.7 assets made by presumably Landil, him. (there was a third artist?) Kinda pisses me off a bit but I have colmed down once I saw all the work that has been done but not released.

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:08 AM

:/ yeah I saw

I couldn't really say anything, sorry

android272 01-Nov-18 01:09 AM

Everything looks good I just want to talk to Zatline a bit more about what I found to be wrong with the 0.6 assets.

Why>

?

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:09 AM

Well it's not cool to be absent for years and pop up and discard others' work ^^

android272 01-Nov-18 01:10 AM

yah kinda why I was mad

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:10 AM

Well, graphics stuff isn't really my expertise

yeah, it really sucks

sadly it seems like a lot of work was done

I'm kinda mad at how private this development was, the dropbox was never shared with anyone :/ oh well

I'd love you to be in charge of some stuff, you do good work :) although it's not up to me to decide

android272 01-Nov-18 01:12 AM

I remembered Landil saying something about a dropbox link he had a looong time ago but I thought he had lost it. So when the sort of request from Oy came up I just wanted 0.7 to come out so I quickly did a lot of work.

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:12 AM

Yeah I remember the topic on the forums

Now that you have access to the dropbox, maybe you can merge in some improvements/fixes of yours?

android272 01-Nov-18 01:15 AM

Yah I feel as though an opensource development should be done more in the open. I understand the artist getting together and deciding on a style and making sure the assets adhere to that style but it would be nice to have this more in the open. Especially finalized assets. I see no reason that the source SVG's not be on the github develop branch.

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:16 AM

Yeah, exactly, it doesn't feel very responsible

But well, I can understand not wanting criticism before the thing is done

I do that too sometimes :|

Oh well

android272 01-Nov-18 01:17 AM

yah

I too get the odd since to keep things private even when working on an open source project. Just got to fight it.

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:18 AM

Yeah

Lots of stuff were lost because of that

ropes development too

android272 01-Nov-18 01:21 AM

makes sense. I can see why they used dropbox for this. Git is great for that.

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:25 AM

yeah, it is

git can be... a bit difficult if you're not the coding guy

I think Sonix was preparing another review of your tiles

You're having difficulties testing them?

android272 01-Nov-18 01:30 AM

Yah I don't know how to test maps. I would really like a test button within the editor to jump into my own map.

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:32 AM

You mean like

android272 01-Nov-18 01:34 AM

I did not know that was there. Now I feel dumb.

jao 01-Nov-18 01:34 AM

lan server

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:34 AM

Oh, it's not lol

It's something I did 7 years ago

I believe someone ported it to 0.7

android272 01-Nov-18 01:35 AM

yes TW needs that.

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:35 AM

not teeish enough to be in TW :P

well I also only did it for Windows iirc

What OS are you on?

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12549

[CLIENT][0.7] Bla-Client (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds ...

[CLIENT][0.7] Bla-Client (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

This dude made a 0.7 port of that feature

I didn't test it though

hopefully you're on Windows ^^

Dune 01-Nov-18 01:45 AM

@android272 what client/version & OS do you use for mapping?

android272 01-Nov-18 02:23 AM

Sorry, dinner then my brother distracted me. I am on windows 10 and I have TW 0.7 installed.

Dune 01-Nov-18 02:26 AM

No problem of course

I can't compile 0.7 on Windows for now so you should look into that link to get this feature

Not like map hosting is too hard though, put a file "autoexec.cfg" in which you write "sv_map ctf2" and start teeworlds_srv.exe. you will find your server in the lan tab :)

But for now, EU time is calling. Gotta sleep, good night ^^ And sorry again for the very frustrating events

android272 01-Nov-18 02:32 AM

it's all good. Night.

getkey 01-Nov-18 02:11 PM

Hahaha I thought the pic Dune posted was a nazi joke at first xD

Dune 01-Nov-18 02:20 PM

what pic, @getkey ?

getkey 01-Nov-18 02:21 PM

lines up perfectly

Dune 01-Nov-18 02:23 PM

hahaha

Zatline 01-Nov-18 02:45 PM

LOL

Fisico 01-Nov-18 02:59 PM

haha

Fisico 01-Nov-18 08:40 PM

@Dune does the console hide with the newes build... just compiled it and it's still there... "bam conf=release -f"

Dune 01-Nov-18 08:40 PM

huh, really?

Fisico 01-Nov-18 08:40 PM

yea

Dune 01-Nov-18 08:40 PM

not normal

Fisico 01-Nov-18 08:41 PM

building it again wait

yea still here

Dune 01-Nov-18 08:43 PM

:/

you sure you included the commit?

Fisico 01-Nov-18 08:44 PM

* Merge pull request #1593 from Dune-jr/feature-noconsole

today 20:10

Dune 01-Nov-18 08:44 PM

:|

well crap

Fisico 01-Nov-18 08:45 PM

and i build "release" so it should not be there right?

Dune 01-Nov-18 08:45 PM

yep

Fisico 01-Nov-18 08:45 PM

or is the -f parameter a problem?

but i dont think

Dune 01-Nov-18 08:46 PM

no

Sonix 01-Nov-18 08:47 PM

@Fisico could you send me and in game screenshot displaying this image

try it on dm8, the moon is pretty big there

Fisico 01-Nov-18 08:49 PM

okay

Sonix 01-Nov-18 08:50 PM

replace the moon in data with the one i sent u

Fisico 01-Nov-18 08:51 PM

you are also redoing that stuff..

i already redid all of them

Sonix 01-Nov-18 08:52 PM

well @android272 redid all of them already, pretty much

Dune 01-Nov-18 08:53 PM

yeay, everyone redoes everything! :P

android272 01-Nov-18 08:53 PM

Haha

Sonix 01-Nov-18 08:53 PM

its good for practice if nothing

android272 01-Nov-18 08:54 PM

It really is. I learned a lot by forcing myself to redo all the assets. Definitely was not wasted time.

Dune 01-Nov-18 08:54 PM

:/

Fisico 01-Nov-18 08:55 PM

as i wrote on the issue... somebody has to decide if teewolrds will get 4k graphics or not... there is no reason to bloat the mapress folder with 4k sun,moon, stars etc.. if the rest is only 1080p

ChillerDragon 01-Nov-18 08:58 PM

i would love too see 4k support. Please go full 4k c:

Fisico 01-Nov-18 09:03 PM

yea me too

not so easy i think... 4k tilesets for example

@Dune should i reopen the console ticket?

Dune 01-Nov-18 09:05 PM

well I'd like to know what happens...

Fisico 01-Nov-18 09:07 PM

nothing really... the console is still there

Dune 01-Nov-18 09:09 PM

I meant on a code level

Fisico 01-Nov-18 09:09 PM

i cant tell you this

Dune 01-Nov-18 09:09 PM

I mean, I saw

well, just make the issue ^^

thanks for the quick test @Fisico

Fisico 01-Nov-18 09:10 PM

cant reopen it sadly..

Dune 01-Nov-18 09:11 PM

nah, gotta make a new issue as a bug report

Fisico 01-Nov-18 09:11 PM

oy will hate me

Dune 01-Nov-18 09:11 PM

nah :D

he's gentle

especially if the fix is easy ;)

Fisico 01-Nov-18 09:15 PM

okay.. now i am that guy with his problem that this console is there.. not bothered him for 10 years but know he thinks he is important with this change request!

Dune 01-Nov-18 09:15 PM

hahaha :D no you're that guy who spots bugs the day they are introduced; )

Fisico 01-Nov-18 09:18 PM

ah okay

Tonixe 02-Nov-18 01:37 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 02-Nov-18 03:35 PM

Does anyone know why AEON server could be grayed?

fokkonaut 02-Nov-18 03:36 PM

Æ maybe

noby 02-Nov-18 03:37 PM

ayy u have my fng server selected

8)

Dune 02-Nov-18 03:37 PM

:)

@fokkonaut no

now it's no longer grayed out

because it has 1 player left, probably

fokkonaut 02-Nov-18 03:38 PM

then bug from refreshing too fast and the server was detected as not online (like the one where u only see the IP)

Dune 02-Nov-18 03:38 PM

gotta look into that, it's not like the server was full :|

Dune 02-Nov-18 04:13 PM

alright, this is due to https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/8221dac5de6bb2c848bd0f13683eb75cd1807f7e/src/game/client/components/menus_browser.cpp#L372

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maxclient was hit

teini94 02-Nov-18 06:53 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 02-Nov-18 06:53 PM

Hello @teini94

teini94 02-Nov-18 06:54 PM

heyho

louis (old acc) 02-Nov-18 11:06 PM

cant ya just make vector graphics 4k

Fisico 02-Nov-18 11:30 PM

yes

Fisico 03-Nov-18 07:50 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1584#issuecomment-435168128 is 1,18 MB to much for this graphics... i dont think they will get much smaller if i scale them down

The sun, moon and stars are very pixilated. Will higher resolution images break every map?

Dune 03-Nov-18 08:00 PM

@Fisico Oy said yeah

Your screenshots are strange btw

Oy and I have the same resolution you do but it doesn't look that bad

we have to wait for the dilate fix

or border fix I forgot

Fisico 03-Nov-18 08:04 PM

antialiasing maybe?

oO i see texture compression is the problem

Dune 03-Nov-18 08:08 PM

no there was a couple of programs you had to run on textures to make them teeworlds-compatible or something

this was fixed in 0.7

so they can be regenerated

I don't know much about this, never did graphics stuff

Fisico 03-Nov-18 08:09 PM

no the teeworlds setting "texture compression" makes the images this horrible

still pixelated without it

will try without dilate and borderfix

256x256 for the sun is not enough... 512x512 is good

Dune 03-Nov-18 08:16 PM

I think it's reasonable to increase the resolution a bit, although maybe not all the way like you did before

Fisico 03-Nov-18 08:16 PM

i made it 4k ready

you need 4x the resolution or it looks bad... but that is a general tw problem

Fisico 03-Nov-18 08:56 PM

best solution:D https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1607

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No dilate or borderfix applied Compressed with PNGOptimizer(psydk.org)(Landil alwas did) No more visible Pixels SVG's will go to the graphics team. Closes #1584

ChillerDragon 03-Nov-18 08:59 PM

@Fisico why no dilate and what is borderfix?

Fisico 03-Nov-18 08:59 PM

not needed any more

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:00 PM

borderfix is used on tilesets mostly

or better was (edited)

ChillerDragon 03-Nov-18 09:00 PM

something that is only usefull if the tiledesigner messed something up?

what does it do?

Fluffy 03-Nov-18 09:01 PM

how to get two way rank

somebody marked my name

xd

ChillerDragon 03-Nov-18 09:03 PM

ask heinrich

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:03 PM

@ChillerDragon https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=118280#p118280

ChillerDragon 03-Nov-18 09:03 PM

thanks

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:05 PM

thanks for the PR @Fisico

Fisico 03-Nov-18 09:05 PM

npnp

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:06 PM

i wonder why desert sun is that fat

Fisico 03-Nov-18 09:06 PM

i am happy when i can help... cat code so this is the only place i am able to

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:06 PM

in size

probably blur

Fisico 03-Nov-18 09:06 PM

yea.. all blur

but it is not even used on default maps

kinda strange

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:07 PM

yeah, that sun should be reworked in the future (edited)

Fisico 03-Nov-18 09:07 PM

why?

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:08 PM

i'd make it more teeish

Fisico 03-Nov-18 09:09 PM

it is i think

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:11 PM

its just a plain cirlcle

no wonder moon is more used over it

WTrawi 03-Nov-18 09:11 PM

Lol I did the upscale too

On the sun

Cuz it appears on many infc maps w huge size

Fisico 03-Nov-18 09:12 PM

the ratio is sill the same.. so its as big as before.. but not pixelated

WTrawi 03-Nov-18 09:15 PM

Ok

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:20 PM

i mean its nothing special

reducing the blur is already nicer

still a plain circle duh

Dune 03-Nov-18 09:23 PM

@ChillerDragon they were programs that had to be run on teeworlds graphics

oops, discord bugged, already answered

sorry

ChillerDragon 03-Nov-18 09:25 PM

np, thanks for you attempt c: (edited)

Dune 03-Nov-18 09:28 PM

@Sonix do you know what the list of the new maps in 0.7 is?

I'm confused about which were in 0.6 and which weren't

Also, isn't ctf8 included by default? :|

Sonix 03-Nov-18 09:29 PM

it is why

ctf8 dm3 and sur1 are new

while dm7 and ctf5 were refreshed

Dune 03-Nov-18 09:36 PM

I see, thanks :)

WTrawi 03-Nov-18 09:41 PM

What is sur1?

Is that for survival?

heinrich5991 03-Nov-18 09:41 PM

yes

WTrawi 03-Nov-18 09:42 PM

Ok I'm looking forward

Fluffy 03-Nov-18 10:51 PM

@heinrich5991 can i get two way?

Fisico 04-Nov-18 12:56 AM

we should add Kukurice.map for survival...was so much fun this map

http://i30.tinypic.com/29bzear.png

Dune 04-Nov-18 01:39 AM

oooooh I remember @Fisico

but I guess sur1 is a slightly modified version of this

Sonix 04-Nov-18 01:59 AM

Lol sur1 is kukurice

Zatline 04-Nov-18 02:03 AM

who made dm3

Fisico 04-Nov-18 02:30 AM

@Sonix yea you are right... cool

Sonix 04-Nov-18 02:39 PM

@Fisico I also gave the clouds a bigger resolution, I'm preparing a folder containing all the tilesets and gfx updates

@Zatline what are we gonna do with the winter tileset?

Zatline 04-Nov-18 02:41 PM

well something has to be done with the mountains

Sonix 04-Nov-18 02:41 PM

nah leave the mountains for later

i mean winter 0.7 from the svg folder

desert 0.7 looks ready

Zatline 04-Nov-18 02:43 PM

u talking about the rearangment of the tiles right?

Sonix 04-Nov-18 02:44 PM

lets talk in private

Fisico 04-Nov-18 02:52 PM

@Sonix ok cool

Fisico 04-Nov-18 03:03 PM

oO i just noticed that the gun projectile is bigger than the gun barrel wtf...

bug? feature?

fokkonaut 04-Nov-18 03:04 PM

doesnt matter? xD

WTrawi 04-Nov-18 03:04 PM

ye

Fisico 04-Nov-18 03:06 PM

shutgun and grenade launcher is ok

Zatline 04-Nov-18 03:07 PM

next level cartoon physics

Fisico 04-Nov-18 03:07 PM

i would make it a bit smaller...

Sonix 04-Nov-18 03:08 PM

it would look like a dot in the ammo hud then

Fisico 04-Nov-18 03:09 PM

why?

Zatline 04-Nov-18 03:10 PM

that would at least suit the damage output

Fisico 04-Nov-18 03:11 PM

ammo hud and projectile should have different graphics

for the shutgun for example

Sonix 04-Nov-18 03:11 PM

nah they can be scaled using code i believe

Fisico 04-Nov-18 03:13 PM

i kinda like the idea to split ammo and projectile, cause they are not the same

Zatline 04-Nov-18 03:14 PM

I think we maybe should split the hud elements in game.png from the ingame elements entirely (edited)

Fisico 04-Nov-18 03:18 PM

good idea

ChillerDragon 04-Nov-18 03:35 PM

@Fisico i guess nobody actually cares about the to small gun. And a change is a risk of getting a worse new texture.... but the current version could look super weird in slowmo closeup movies. Especially in cinnematic ones. (edited)

Fisico 04-Nov-18 03:40 PM

Dune 04-Nov-18 05:20 PM

may I remind you of this?

oversized bullets aren't a new thing :D

Fisico 04-Nov-18 05:36 PM

i still think it would be cool to split the projectile and ammo images

ChillerDragon 04-Nov-18 09:00 PM

@Dune the canon you sent doesnt shoot bigger bullets than it self^^ thats a difference

Zatline 04-Nov-18 11:00 PM

true that's a difference

Dune 05-Nov-18 12:24 AM

@Fisico: playing run_4fisico :D

mogthefrog 05-Nov-18 09:00 AM

Joined the server.

WTrawi 05-Nov-18 09:00 AM

Hey

mogthefrog 05-Nov-18 09:00 AM

'Sup

psst what's with all the alphabet bots please help

WTrawi 05-Nov-18 09:01 AM

Alphabet bots? :D

Whats that

mogthefrog 05-Nov-18 09:02 AM

Well I reinstalled teeworlds after a little while on steam and every server i join either is filled with bots with usernames like letters of the alphabet or they fill up with the bots

WTrawi 05-Nov-18 09:02 AM

Ohh

Idk a new sort of attack

mogthefrog 05-Nov-18 09:02 AM

Any servers I can join that have actual peeps on em?

WTrawi 05-Nov-18 09:03 AM

Infc servers?

I dont rly play anything else

mogthefrog 05-Nov-18 09:03 AM

hmm, ok

it scares me how easily you say 'a new kind of attack'

;-;

WTrawi 05-Nov-18 09:05 AM

I rarely see it happening

mogthefrog 05-Nov-18 09:08 AM

hm ok

Dune 05-Nov-18 09:37 AM

@mogthefrog spookythis is fixed in 0.6.5 and 0.7, lots of servers aren't patching

android272 05-Nov-18 11:24 AM

I agree with @Fisico that the ammo and projectile images should be the same. I don't like how the pistole projectile looks as though it still has the shell casing on it and in the Hud there is no casing around the bullet. It would also be kind of neat if the bullet casings shot backwards out of the gun.

Dune 05-Nov-18 11:56 AM

@android272 typo? Fisico said ammo and projectile should NOT be the same

android272 05-Nov-18 12:05 PM

Oh yah. that was a typo. We should use two different images for the Hud and what comes out of the gun.

Dune 05-Nov-18 05:29 PM

What's up with the maps being broken? I see no issue on github; are you on it, @Sonix?

Sonix 05-Nov-18 05:41 PM

There are no broken maps

If he means map compatibility break thats normal

Official grass maps are already updated and working

0.6 custom grass maps may look buggy, its up to them to update their maps

(Authors)

Dune 05-Nov-18 05:53 PM

oh

nevermind, I thought the default maps weren't updated. thanks Sonix

Fisico 05-Nov-18 07:04 PM

@Dune cant remember the map run_4fisico

Dune 05-Nov-18 07:05 PM

A nice gentle map

Fisico 05-Nov-18 07:20 PM

skizz made it i think

Fisico 05-Nov-18 09:49 PM

who made the bots on the bot server? they are so unhuman... the creator should a human reaction time. Like openai did with thair dota 2 ai

Dune 05-Nov-18 10:34 PM

Maybe their goal is to be good, not necessarily human

rand did them

mogthefrog 06-Nov-18 09:39 AM

there are still bots on up to date servs

ZombieToad 06-Nov-18 11:19 AM

i couldnt find any 0.6.5 servers with connecting bots on them

Fluffy 06-Nov-18 12:44 PM

I though we are talking about 0.7???

Ai bots or flood bots?

Dune 06-Nov-18 04:09 PM

We were talking about 0.7

@mogthefrog spooknot that I'm aware of. Any example of that ?

Fisico 06-Nov-18 06:53 PM

yay oy merged my PR

cool stuff

android272 06-Nov-18 07:37 PM

Nice @Fisico

Dune 06-Nov-18 08:12 PM

Thanks @Fisico

Fisico 06-Nov-18 08:16 PM

np

is there some additional stuff i can take care of @Dune?

Dune 06-Nov-18 08:16 PM

huh, graphical stuff?

well https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Agraphics

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Fisico 06-Nov-18 08:17 PM

stuff i am able to do

Dune 06-Nov-18 08:17 PM

There is https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1609 unless @Zatline has something in the works

This comes from the cursor image, illustrated here: Now we could change the code everywhere the cursor is displayed to account for the offset, but an easier solution would be to move/rework the image.

Fisico 06-Nov-18 08:17 PM

ok

i thought about redoing the documentation

so many old stuff there and so little new stuff

for example a -console etc...

Dune 06-Nov-18 08:28 PM

well yeah, there aren't that many new graphical issues

Fisico 06-Nov-18 08:33 PM

docu is not important?

Dune 06-Nov-18 08:34 PM

which?

Fisico 06-Nov-18 08:36 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/documentation

https://github.com/teeworlds/documentation/blob/master/compiling_everything.md yeah

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add survival and tlms

startup parameters

compiling 0.7

etc..

mogthefrog 06-Nov-18 09:35 PM

i'm gonna try out 0.7 later today i think

Dune 06-Nov-18 10:27 PM

menus still aren't ready @mogthefrog

better wait 0.7.1, can't be too far away :)

@Fisico compiling 0.7 should already be somewhere

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but yeah it'd be helpful to help out in general :)

Brokecdx- 07-Nov-18 07:32 AM

Joined the server.

Fisico 07-Nov-18 06:51 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1390 wtf?

Add a flag for ai-controlled players (client, server) so you can filter them within the server browser (similar to spectators).

Dune 07-Nov-18 06:57 PM

what about it? @Fisico

Fisico 07-Nov-18 06:58 PM

how many botservers are out there?

Dune 07-Nov-18 06:58 PM

I don't know?

plenty of servers use NPC

either for vanilla bots or for mods

Fisico 07-Nov-18 07:00 PM

okay

how are the parameters for bam 4.0

the same as 5.0?

dang... cant compile sushis menu_rework github version

Dune 07-Nov-18 07:08 PM

somewhat, @Fisico

What do you want to do? bam -c and bam are enough for me

if you want to do a release, it's bam conf=release now

Fisico 07-Nov-18 07:09 PM

yea figured it out... but it runs into errors..

Dune 07-Nov-18 07:09 PM

then it's not bam's fault

Fisico 07-Nov-18 07:09 PM

i want to see the latest version from sushis work

Dune 07-Nov-18 07:09 PM

you have to install SDL2 and freetype

Fisico 07-Nov-18 07:10 PM

i have a compiled client that runs.. but no server for this version

Dune 07-Nov-18 07:15 PM

haha, yeah, that's a problem

host your own :-)

Fisico 07-Nov-18 07:16 PM

yea dont have a fitting version

is see all 0.6 servers but cant connect and dont see 0.7 servers

Dune 07-Nov-18 07:17 PM

You don't need to be with other people, do you

Fisico 07-Nov-18 07:17 PM

no

hmm so the errors are a compiler version problem than..?

Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0 worked back than

Dune 07-Nov-18 07:30 PM

I don't know what the errors are if I don't see them lol

Fisico 07-Nov-18 07:34 PM

trying it with vs 11 now...

Fisico 07-Nov-18 07:47 PM

yay compiled it

Dune 07-Nov-18 07:47 PM

gj

Fisico 07-Nov-18 07:52 PM

scorebaord looks nice

the same as oy posted

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/293850/47608017-0c04fa80-da28-11e8-8ebf-b544c8ae529a.jpg

but i think sushi had a newer version... i have a very detailed scoreboard in mind...

Fisico 07-Nov-18 08:03 PM

lol look what i found...

with source...

Dune 07-Nov-18 08:38 PM

@Fisico did you check sushitee's git?

Fisico 07-Nov-18 09:18 PM

yea

latest version is the PR

he had it local i 100% know

but i dont know if he sent me the source or only screenshots

cant find anything

Fisico 07-Nov-18 09:42 PM

the watergun was so great

@Dune did you check out oy's first server browser commit

looks good so far

Dune 07-Nov-18 11:02 PM

ah, he's working straight up into the master branch :/

Dune 07-Nov-18 11:29 PM

The third map doesn't look too bad :)

Zatline 08-Nov-18 12:44 AM

ohhh that is cool

redix 08-Nov-18 12:59 AM

did anyone here compile 0.6.5 himself? for me it generates a wrong nethash. it works when i revert this commit: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/commit/ebeb289fef90df0b9a060f6e197b58472660a515

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android272 08-Nov-18 08:10 AM

Hay @Fisico what client were you playing with that had the watergun? I would like to check that out. looks neat.

Dune 08-Nov-18 12:32 PM

@redix yeah there is an issue with that, that was supposed to be hotfixed

Maybe you could notify us via https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/new ? :)

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Dune 08-Nov-18 01:04 PM

Translations for Teeworlds 0.7.1 are now open : https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12573

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Fisico 08-Nov-18 07:38 PM

@Dune your new controls menu ist so great... love it

@android272 its a 0.6.0 oder maybe oder? 0.5 version of the game...

Dune 08-Nov-18 07:43 PM

Thanks :)

Fisico 08-Nov-18 07:44 PM

now we need to get oy to merge the scoreboard

@Dune did you notice anything that explains "Background map animation" in sushis PR description?

Fisico 08-Nov-18 07:55 PM

@Dune ah... thats the animation that get riggered if you click on a menu button.. thats cool.. much faster and fresher than the animation that there is in the offical game...

Dune 08-Nov-18 08:30 PM

I didn't merge it so I don't know what it is like, maybe you could show us @Fisico

Fisico 08-Nov-18 08:31 PM

yea how? what is a good tool for screen recordings?

Dune 08-Nov-18 08:31 PM

OBS

Fisico 08-Nov-18 08:32 PM

and where i upload?

streamable.com?

Dune 08-Nov-18 08:33 PM

anywhere? Vimeo streamable etc

Fisico 08-Nov-18 08:39 PM

@Dune https://streamable.com/mciai

2018-11-08 20-37-05 - Streamable

look so good

Dune 08-Nov-18 09:56 PM

:o

mogthefrog 09-Nov-18 05:46 AM

oooh

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:06 PM

@Sonix you onto https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds-maps/issues/17?

ctf8 tee stands not on the ground · Issue #17 · teeworlds/teewor...

On ctf8 there're some places where the tee doesn't stand on the ground. These tiles should probably not be used for the floor? Or we would need some grass tiles to cover it.

@fokkonaut please clear up what you meant with " skins are wrong rendered" and "old maps are broken" at https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1534

bugs and weird things · Issue #1534 · teeworlds/teeworlds

if you have f1 opened and use arrow keys to get previous written message typed to f1 it will also use the arrow keys in the normal menues if possible //fixed i guess - flag isnt fixed on other play...

@Zatline the new ninja countdown thing works right away?

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:08 PM

old maps use old tilesets wich are not external so the client doent download them and uses the technically wrong tileset. skins are wrong rendered or the feet in the .png are wrong placed, because they are too far left

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:08 PM

new servers should use new maps, of course

if you download 0.7 servers, you should download the maps that come with it?

if you copy paste 0.6 maps, it won't work

Huh, I didn't notice the feet are too far left in the skins

maybe @android272 did

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:10 PM

@Dune i said old maps are broken lol, i dont only talk about trash vanilla maps, i talk about ddrace maps aswell

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:11 PM

?? there isn't even 0.7 ddrace

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:11 PM

i made it

lol

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:11 PM

and it's broken in your mod? your problem

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:11 PM

...

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:11 PM

maps ought to be updated, it's not a bug

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:11 PM

u

for me

i think

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:11 PM

also, don't throw insults on github please

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:12 PM

you should make another tilesets named grass_doodads_0.7 or shit

but dont use the old one

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:12 PM

maybe, yeah

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:12 PM

since its in several maps, also custom vanilla maps and some people might dont wanna replace every single image in their maps they made

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:12 PM

but it's already done, so not much to fix

old maps can be fixed simply by making the tileset external, right?

just select the 0.6 tileset and make clients download it

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:14 PM

i know

but imagine having 100 maps or even more

and every map uses like 10 vanilla imgaes

you want to make the mall external? thats pretty much

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:15 PM

maybe this can be scripted, from the client editor or something ^^

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:15 PM

nop

with custom client, yes

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:16 PM

yeah

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:16 PM

but oy is against modding

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:16 PM

sure it's annoying, but we don't get major releases so often, do we

Oy didn't say that particularly

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:16 PM

hahaha

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:16 PM

Teeworlds goes its direction

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:16 PM

oy is stupid

Dune 09-Nov-18 04:17 PM

k

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:17 PM

nothing else i can say about that

Fisico 09-Nov-18 04:30 PM

vote for kick fokkonaut! we dont need people here who insult people. criticism and feedback is ok and good. Insulting not!

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fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 04:54 PM

@Fisico Personal opinion

he ruined teeworlds

removed features we all wanted

broke mod compability

etc.

sure, you can still make mods, but not that good and not with all stuff you could in 0.6. youre just not free anymore, and since he Just made that because HE is against modding, i can say that he is stupid IMo

hes not even listening to what the community wants, just doing whatever he wants

redix 09-Nov-18 05:04 PM

guy... stop crying the only removed feature is broadcasting breaking compatibility is usual for major versions. it's sometimes needed to get rid of old (and insecure) stuff except for the broadcast thing modding should be mostly the same. you may have to implement some features in a different way but i don't know about anything that you can realize in 0.6 but not in 0.7 considering the map thing... write a script to fix old maps. make it embed the old tilesets or even better: map the old indices to the new ones

noby 09-Nov-18 05:05 PM

once someone comes out with an 0.7 client that has antiping i think 0.7 will be just as good as 0.6 ..

WTrawi 09-Nov-18 05:12 PM

broadcasting is necessary for infc lol

we're doomed

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:22 PM

@redix Especially if the extended spectators PR is merged, then there would be no need for hacks to add more clients

For broadcasting you can maybe use "*** Broadcast: ..." server messages, and optionally have it changed to an old-fashioned broadcast in client mods. Just a suggestion

redix 09-Nov-18 05:33 PM

well... would be cool but modifying NET_MAX_CLIENTS in 0.7.1 would break compatibility with 0.7.0 so either release 0.8 or forget about 0.7.0

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:33 PM

right :/

redix 09-Nov-18 05:34 PM

well using the chat for all the broadcast stuff could be rather annoying but yeah... custom clients can readd the broadcast

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:34 PM

yeah there is a frequency problem, surely

redix 09-Nov-18 05:38 PM

but one thing: when anyone here decides to readd the broadcast to the protocol in a custom client... don't just add simple netmessages rather port the protocol extension from ddnet so we have an extensible system for protocol additions that does not mess with other custom clients

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:39 PM

it doesn't even have to be a protocol thing though, it can be pretty-printed server messages, right

redix 09-Nov-18 05:42 PM

well... how to differentiate between server chat-messages and broadcast then?

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:45 PM

either consider all server chat messages as Broadcast, or prefix it with "Broadcast:"

redix 09-Nov-18 05:46 PM

consider a race timer... one broadcast per second. no fun for the clients not supporting the broadcast

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:47 PM

Right, timers are troublesome

redix 09-Nov-18 05:49 PM

best solution: merging the 64 slot PR, readd broadcasting and everybody would be happy

(edited)

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:50 PM

of course, yes

Fisico 09-Nov-18 05:50 PM

@fokkonaut I don’t know why the ddrace community is such a toxic place…. Why ddrace just don’t simply fork the game and do their own stuff and move on… If teeworlds 0.7 is that bad for your mod fork the game and do your own stuff. It’s very unfair and stupid to offend the game dev from a game which enabled mods like ddrace in the first place. Without Teeworlds your mod would have never happened. There are already forks like Ninslash out there. That’s totally ok, everybody is cool with it and they don’t have to offend Teeworlds developers or the Teeworlds community. If the DDrace Com and Devs can’t identify with the direction in which Teeworlds is heading, it’s their turn to take a different road. So please do us a favor and stop with your stupid toxic engages! Thanks.

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 05:51 PM

sadly you dont get it, its not about ddrace only

its about making 0.7 worse than 0.6 was

Fisico 09-Nov-18 05:52 PM

cause broadcast was removed?

fokkonaut 09-Nov-18 05:53 PM

and we both know, that Oy made this choice on purpose

xD broadcast

are you really that dumb not being able to understand what i mean? i wont talk to such a guy anymore. sorry for you

Fisico 09-Nov-18 05:53 PM

have you talked to him?

Nothing is wrong with teeworlds 0.7. Mods always broke with major versions. Teeworlds never had any kind of modding support. Everybody that makes a mod knows, with the next major version I have to redo and rethink things... as I said, if this is a problem for ddrace they have to fork the game and are than able to do what they want.

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:57 PM

I think it's been so long since the last major version, that it is the first one for most young players around

Fisico 09-Nov-18 05:57 PM

yea thats true

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:57 PM

When did 0.6 come out again?

7 years ago, huh

Fisico 09-Nov-18 05:57 PM

that was a long time ago

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:58 PM

those who are 18 today were 11 back then :D

Fisico 09-Nov-18 05:58 PM

yep

Dune 09-Nov-18 05:58 PM

so for a lot of players, it is the first time the game gets compatibility-broken for them

Fisico 09-Nov-18 05:59 PM

yea thats ture.. but is this a reason to offend anybody?

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:00 PM

no, no, of course :)

Does anyone remember all the outcry about ctf4 being changed? :D

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:01 PM

never played ctf4 that much...

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:01 PM

it was the default map for instagib players, when 0.6.0 came out, it was replaced, instagib players were furious :P

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:01 PM

my time was ctf1 and ctf2

and 1on1 on dm1

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:01 PM

haha :D

didn't do vanilla back in the days

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:02 PM

teeworlds 0.3.2 i think was when i started playing

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:02 PM

woa, that's really early :)

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:02 PM

i remember teeworlds 0.4 was the big hype

redix 09-Nov-18 06:03 PM

no laser back then

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:03 PM

I came with that hype yeah

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:03 PM

adding the laser yea

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:03 PM

oooh right they were talking about laser being new

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:03 PM

0.4 was lasertime

redix 09-Nov-18 06:03 PM

i still don't like it

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:03 PM

freaking matricks ruined teeworlds :D

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:03 PM

yea i like the watergun more

watergun with knockback would be cool

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:04 PM

how does water even look hurtful though

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:04 PM

to slow down opponents and speed up your mates

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:08 PM

this whole 0.6 to 0.7 compatibility break reminds me a lot on the bitcoin protocol update indrodusing segwit where every major company was against it becouse it broke their batching algos they had to put in work and rework it what they didn't want so they were toxic and starting a counter campaign against the devs trouging shit on them this went on over years and had it's peak last year .. eventually the devs and community won, segwit activated all major companies had to update their algos what they then did and now the network is working more effeciantly than ever befor lol breaking compatibility can be a good thing

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:09 PM

yep

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:09 PM

eeh there was a lot more to that @Zatline

that was a big ugly hack that did little to the network efficiency imo :\ I think that was more political than anything.

and it's quite the opposite, that thing happened because they did NOT want to break compatibility (hard fork)

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:12 PM

yes there was a lot of political shit going on true so much in fact that it was hard to believe anything

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:14 PM

seems like you believe something quite firmly ^^

@Fisico it's hard to make it look good

I tried putting a bit more towards the center

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:14 PM

yea thats to much

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:15 PM

too much? so gotta be more upwards?

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:15 PM

yep

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:15 PM

but fact was that big companies like Coinbase were spaming the network due of their bad batching and with Segwit they had to rework it and now the network is working very nicely no spam at all

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,all

Johoe's Bitcoin Mempool Size Statistics

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:15 PM

By the way, pausing does not seem to work ingame? Or am I doing it wrong?

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:15 PM

where warmup starts

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:15 PM

@Zatline :/ not really how it happened though. the queue was cleared a week before that was implemented

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:15 PM

is this stuff hard to code? or something i can also try?

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:16 PM

well just gotta change one value lol

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:16 PM

so u followed that more detailed than me I supose (edited)

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:16 PM

okay... hacking on css stuff i am able to.. i will try

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:17 PM

there was insanely aggressive propaganda by both sides, better to stay out of that stuff and believe any side so easily ^^ @Zatline

@Fisico ah well I made a variable to change that didn't exist in the original PR, so you'd need my trunk

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:18 PM

yea i clone that anyways

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:18 PM

made some more commits

hold on

@Fisico clone that https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/tree/feature-scoreboard-exp

https://gyazo.com/79c9ff3d043de4b1b61466546d04a8fa

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Dune-jr/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

then you can change the Y coordinate of the scoreboard with cl_scoreboard_y

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:22 PM

well I know what side I stand on I go with the devs regatless they are the only people I trust even if that is against the trustlessness nature of btc protocol they the only who are compitent enough to prevent a disaster making the network worthless .. they sort out incompitent devs like Jeff Garzik and those other that didn't do good for years (edited)

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:22 PM

there are devs on both sides @Zatline

just like in Teeworlds, modders are devs :)

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:23 PM

em... feature-scoreboard-exp and feature-scoreboard2 is the same?

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:23 PM

is it? oops!

hold on

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:23 PM

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:23 PM

done! :)

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:24 PM

ok cool

RenderTools()->DrawRoundRect(&Rect, vec4(0.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f, 0.25f), 5.0f); what are the parameters for vec4?

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:24 PM

colors

but you don't need to modify the code

just change cl_scoreboard_y :)

0.25f is the alpha

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:25 PM

0.5 default yet?

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:25 PM

tell me what value you think is best for a 1-man scoreboard or more

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:25 PM

nah want to understand a bit of it and maybe move modify stuff

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:25 PM

@Zatline no that wasn't changed yet

I'd like to put 0.5 everywhere yeah

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:25 PM

just do it

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:25 PM

@Fisico the idea is that you tell me what you think looks good

you can mess around the code after if you want

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:26 PM

yep i will

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:26 PM

is a transparancy slider really so hard to code after all? (edited)

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:26 PM

no

but it's not necessarily a good idea

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:27 PM

well 0.6 had one even with color slider I thought it may be nice to have some 0.6 functinalities back with 0.7 that was the whole idea more or less

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:27 PM

like @LordSk said, we shouldn't bloat TW with options and expect players to change their Teeworlds to make it look good

oh it had one @Zatline ?

didn't know

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:28 PM

I think so am I wrong?

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:28 PM

I don't remember that, but my memory is faulty

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:28 PM

background color you could set

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:28 PM

well when I try to start 0.6.5 I get .dll error so I can't check

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:29 PM

gotta have SDL2.dll in your folder

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:30 PM

https://gyazo.com/6ca5326e7c142ef6b6da835dfd086d77

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:30 PM

huh...

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:30 PM

visual c++ redistributable

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:30 PM

I do have SDL.dll in the folder

I also have visual c++ redistributable installed

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:31 PM

those 0.6.5 binaries weren't well packaged

@Zatline has to be sdl2, not sdl

oh wait, it's 0.6.5

nvm

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:31 PM

msvcr100 is a dll from cpp redist

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:31 PM

https://downloads.teeworlds.com/teeworlds-0.6.5-win64.zip

it all came with Unity instalation tho

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:32 PM

all x64

try 2012 x86

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:35 PM

why x86 that's 32 bit right?

I have 64 bit pc

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:35 PM

yep

if you start a 32bit exe you need 32 bit ddls

*dlls

sometimes

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:36 PM

pukes in GNU

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:36 PM

alright

redix 09-Nov-18 06:36 PM

just get the 64 bit 0.6.5 build

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:37 PM

lol nice that one works

alread ingame

yap there it is trancparacy slider with alpha, light, saturation, hue

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:44 PM

@Dune MACRO_CONFIG_INT(ClScoreboardY, cl_scoreboard_y, 1000, 1000, 2000, CFGFLAG_CLIENT|CFGFLAG_SAVE, "EXP: Scoreboard Y pos") is not doing anything

oO its a settings.cfg thing

ok

Zatline 09-Nov-18 06:46 PM

but from what I see the sliders are not actually changing the UI but the backround I think

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:48 PM

@Dune i would say value 100 and also bring the yellow warump text to this height and the server broadcast warup too

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:49 PM

It is doing something? ^^

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:49 PM

at first i changed it in the src

lol

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:50 PM

Mess up with the code later ^^

There is yellow warmup text?

I don't think adapting the broadcasts to the scoreboard is the way to go

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:51 PM

sure it is

its to low anyway

Dune 09-Nov-18 06:52 PM

Broadcasts are fine without the scoreboard active though... idk

Ah this

Fisico 09-Nov-18 06:56 PM

can find the code where the spacing between scoreboard and scorelimit are set

@Dune github issue with shotgun shell

you are coding it?, i mean the part to split the hud from the projectile

@Zatline how does rocket launch ammo look like compared to the projectile?

Zatline 09-Nov-18 07:00 PM

I'd also like to had the forend animated tho

Fisico 09-Nov-18 07:00 PM

*launcher

Zatline 09-Nov-18 07:00 PM

rocket launcher don't know

about the same

Fisico 09-Nov-18 07:01 PM

pistol is different

Zatline 09-Nov-18 07:01 PM

and pistol don't really need a extra projectile either

Fisico 09-Nov-18 07:01 PM

and shotgun... laser is already different

Dune 09-Nov-18 07:01 PM

I can but gotta discuss before code

Zatline 09-Nov-18 07:01 PM

it's mostly the shotgun that bugs me

Fisico 09-Nov-18 07:02 PM

pistol projectile is only the tip of the bullet

Zatline 09-Nov-18 07:02 PM

using pallets as ammo dosn't make much sense

"pistol projectile is only the tip of the bullet" u right but it's so small barly noticable

Fisico 09-Nov-18 07:02 PM

maybe make the bistol bullet brass color and the tip from it silver and the projectile shorter

Zatline 09-Nov-18 07:03 PM

yeah that sounds nice

I also don't like the color difference from the laser beam to the actual laser weapon tho the weapon is blue while the beam is more purple

also laser beams are usually almost white inside while only the outside gives the color away

depending on the lasers power more power more white inside I guess

http://i39.tinypic.com/zmn7s.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/b4i3ow.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/mm3j1l.jpg

Fisico 09-Nov-18 07:12 PM

quick example for the bullet

i am sure you make something cool out of it

yea laser is white in the middle

Sonix 09-Nov-18 07:29 PM

@Dune I guess i'll just replace those tiles with regular stones for now

Dune 09-Nov-18 07:47 PM

sounds good @Sonix

Dune 09-Nov-18 08:40 PM

would you like messing around the menu_heavens.map maybe @Sonix ? :)

Sonix 09-Nov-18 09:16 PM

I'll try in the next days, I was pretty busy these past days couldnt make much progress (edited)

Sonix 09-Nov-18 10:11 PM

@Dune here?

Dune 09-Nov-18 10:51 PM

yes

well, bit late @Sonix

Dune 10-Nov-18 11:08 AM

haha, I'm ingame with someone still trying to figure how to disconnect

Sonix 10-Nov-18 11:54 AM

was it intentional to edit the Warmup texts aswell

@LordSk 's Chat UI PR

or better all texts

Dune 10-Nov-18 11:57 AM

Warmup texts were edited?

I don't see where

Sonix 10-Nov-18 11:57 AM

the white outline around everything

it was transparent black before

Fisico 10-Nov-18 12:06 PM

yea dont like it

chat is ok but not all other elements

Dune 10-Nov-18 12:07 PM

huh, yeah, why is there a white outline on everything

@LordSk probably accidentally committed too much

LordSk 10-Nov-18 01:47 PM

@Sonix that was supposed to be fixed

Dune 10-Nov-18 01:49 PM

selecting the x86/x64 targets for compiling 0.7 on windows is giving me headache

libs are a mess

Sonix 10-Nov-18 02:30 PM

Wut, i thought chat only

Rest looks worse

LordSk 10-Nov-18 02:35 PM

I meant the white outline wasn't supposed to be there

Dune 10-Nov-18 02:38 PM

you need to do it case by case?

shyga 10-Nov-18 02:53 PM

Joined the server.

ello

Fisico 10-Nov-18 02:56 PM

@Dune i am not able to compile x64 on windows

always getting errors

Dune 10-Nov-18 02:56 PM

I don't compile on windows

can't help you

Fisico 10-Nov-18 02:57 PM

you wrote above... selecting the x86/x64 targets for compiling 0.7 on windows is giving me headache libs are a mess

Dune 10-Nov-18 02:57 PM

yeah

still doesn't work

Fisico 10-Nov-18 02:57 PM

ok

LordSk 10-Nov-18 02:58 PM

@Fisico I can compile on windows x64 just fine

Fisico 10-Nov-18 02:58 PM

with vs2017?

LordSk 10-Nov-18 02:58 PM

yup, pm me

Fisico 10-Nov-18 02:58 PM

okay

android272 10-Nov-18 04:40 PM

So @Fisico bullets and projectiles should look like this.

This would give us the ability to do this.

Notice in the hud when the pistol is selected the casing and the bullet is put together.

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Dune 10-Nov-18 04:49 PM

hud, that looks a bit too... noticeable imo

1stDecadeTW 10-Nov-18 06:49 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 10-Nov-18 06:50 PM

Welcome, @1stDecadeTW

1stDecadeTW 10-Nov-18 06:53 PM

Hi!

(edited)

Dune 10-Nov-18 06:53 PM

On the #bridge channel you will find quakenet/#teeworlds and freenode/#teeworlds in read-only

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1stDecadeTW 10-Nov-18 06:54 PM

I will upload any mockup suggestion here to get your opinions before making an issue in tw github (edited)

Dune 10-Nov-18 06:57 PM

Github is for opinions too, don't worry :)

Sonix 10-Nov-18 08:01 PM

A quick sketch regarding CTF and Survival icons

Dune 10-Nov-18 08:02 PM

Oh :o

That's pretty cool :)

why the angry tee haha :D

Sonix 10-Nov-18 08:03 PM

random

Fisico 11-Nov-18 12:08 AM

@android272 very cool. i would put the shotgun ammo upright...

Dune 11-Nov-18 12:09 AM

or diagonally

Fisico 11-Nov-18 12:11 AM

@android272 the gold color is also not that cool... bullets are brass and not gold

and brass is never really polished...

Dune 11-Nov-18 12:12 AM

yeap

Fisico 11-Nov-18 12:12 AM

same for the shotgun shell.. also brass on the bottom

android272 11-Nov-18 12:23 AM

I just picked a yellow color really quickly as I had to get to bed.

Dune 11-Nov-18 12:24 AM

arr

android272 11-Nov-18 12:25 AM

Wanted to get some quick mockups out to show what I meant.

LordSk 11-Nov-18 12:27 AM

@android272 it looks really cool

android272 11-Nov-18 04:06 AM

We should move this conversation to #development

WsY[FU]? 11-Nov-18 10:37 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 11-Nov-18 11:29 AM

Hello @WsY[FU]?

Fisico 11-Nov-18 11:37 AM

dont get it why i cant start a tw server on my linux server (edited)

Dune 11-Nov-18 11:56 AM

don't get why you couldn't

ah, storage issues

it's weird, this other guy on IRC had the same issue

you should msg him

YuGiOhJCJ

Fisico 11-Nov-18 11:57 AM

ok thanks

Fisico 11-Nov-18 12:27 PM

found his stuff on the irc bridge... i have a different problem than he had... the maps are in place etc..

Dune 11-Nov-18 01:12 PM

@ChillerDragon are those bots on your servers clients?

I see some chillerbots alone around

@fokkonaut

fokkonaut 11-Nov-18 01:13 PM

chillerbot client, yes

why?

its just a client running on chillers pc

we also have server side bots, but we hide them from the masterserver as they are no clients

ive also made an option to hide them from scoreboard, we use it at the moment aswell

Dune 11-Nov-18 01:16 PM

aight, thanks :)

fokkonaut 11-Nov-18 01:16 PM

why did u ask?

Dune 11-Nov-18 01:17 PM

they makin' me crash for some reason

fokkonaut 11-Nov-18 01:17 PM

i dont think so

what exactly happens?

Dune 11-Nov-18 01:18 PM

I'll find out ;)

fokkonaut 11-Nov-18 01:18 PM

i guess i could tell you

Dune 11-Nov-18 01:18 PM

probably not

fokkonaut 11-Nov-18 01:18 PM

probably yes

not the first time someone telling me he cant load

Dune 11-Nov-18 01:21 PM

loading is very long

fokkonaut 11-Nov-18 01:21 PM

the map is big

ChillerDragon 11-Nov-18 01:55 PM

@Dune what Server what Port what map what Crash? What client do you use? I never heard of our server crashing clients

The blmapchill is a big lil buggy map it can require a reload on downloading I think. But as far as I know it only crashes clients if you open it in editor. I think it is caused by the age and size and also by the fact that multiple people worked on it with multiple old devices running old Mac OS and windows xp. Those maps seem to get buggy.

shyga 11-Nov-18 02:13 PM

wait why are the 6.5 servers like "hacked" or st, thewre are just ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO bots that keep spawning ;; @here

Dune 11-Nov-18 02:15 PM

example of such a server @shyga ?

shyga 11-Nov-18 02:16 PM

idk i just join any game and its just a spam of these bots that dont move and just dc and rejoin

dunno how else to explain

Dune 11-Nov-18 02:16 PM

@ChillerDragon the question wasn't about the crash, that part is my fault, I'm doing some tweaking and it crashes on some servers, trying to figure when and why :)

@shyga because those servers are not 0.6.5

join a 0.6.5 server, they are free of those problems

shyga 11-Nov-18 02:17 PM

i have compatible version ticked on and i just installed the 0.6.5 version

Dune 11-Nov-18 02:18 PM

of course it's a server problem lol

0.6.4 and < are compatible versions

shyga 11-Nov-18 02:19 PM

so waht should i do ;;

Dune 11-Nov-18 02:19 PM

Nothing, servers got to be upgraded

join 0.6.5 servers

0.7 servers are also all free of this problem

btw please don't abuse @ here too much :p

shyga 11-Nov-18 02:19 PM

but noone's on them

lol

yeah sorry :p

Dune 11-Nov-18 02:20 PM

yeah for now

I'll make an issue to add a strict version filter

ChillerDragon 11-Nov-18 02:26 PM

Ok nice @Dune

Dune 11-Nov-18 02:26 PM

done

dffddf 12-Nov-18 01:27 PM

Joined the server.

louis (old acc) 12-Nov-18 02:45 PM

u

ChillerDragon 12-Nov-18 06:46 PM

@heinrich5991 do we have two github bots one for Discord and another one for irc?

Dune 12-Nov-18 07:33 PM

yes @ChillerDragon

Fisico 12-Nov-18 07:40 PM

is /n possible in motd?

\n

Dune 12-Nov-18 07:44 PM

Surely, yes

Fisico 12-Nov-18 07:47 PM

my server is now building every night at 0:00 the newest build

Dune 12-Nov-18 07:47 PM

:)

with the current rate of commits you gotta build every 30min

blame @redix for that

Fisico 12-Nov-18 07:47 PM

Dune 12-Nov-18 07:47 PM

besides is it going to work? I mean the server ought to be killed and restarted

Fisico 12-Nov-18 07:48 PM

yea it will kill the screen and create a new one

Fisico 12-Nov-18 07:55 PM

oy is afk today

but you skel and redix are putting stuff out left and right... so great

Dune 12-Nov-18 07:56 PM

skel?

Fisico 12-Nov-18 07:57 PM

LordSk

Dune 12-Nov-18 07:57 PM

haha :D

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 08:24 PM

Joined the server.

Oh hi

Hey @Dune by the way

(still open for security discussions if you care to explain (and show code!) the most recent patches and what's left on the Roadmap

Might be a little bit harsh reaction on my side but I was pretty disappointed when I originally saw the intent to fix it, took a rather good & medium long look and saw my comments be completely ignored as response

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 08:36 PM

@Dune actually, how about actual in-development builds of teeworlds? Some time ago I had it set up as a github webhook for some other repo, was able to build teeworlds within 2-3 seconds (so I actually had a service that would compile on-request on Linux, discard the binary but Show the log, I. E. If there would be any problems (made that for siile back then cause he was building on windows). So timely (probably 10 seconds delay or something, maybe 5 seconds) deployment would actually be more than possible

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 08:46 PM

(so yeah I've had and actually have automatic updates on github webhook running in production right now for ninslash and had for several other servers)

Fisico 12-Nov-18 09:08 PM

@Dune oy is on PR merging spree

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 09:11 PM

yep definitely

Sonix 12-Nov-18 09:18 PM

oh wow did @LordSk break something again xd

Fisico 12-Nov-18 09:19 PM

go @Sonix join my server

latest build

LordSk 12-Nov-18 09:19 PM

what did I do now

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 09:20 PM

oh lol @Fisico that was you

might want to get serverlist fixed

LordSk 12-Nov-18 09:21 PM

@Sonix what did I break?

Fisico 12-Nov-18 09:21 PM

console looks broken.. but not bad if i am honest

Sonix 12-Nov-18 09:22 PM

console bar became a ninja bar?

LordSk 12-Nov-18 09:22 PM

lol did it

greeny 12-Nov-18 09:30 PM

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guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 09:49 PM

hey @rand()

Dune 12-Nov-18 09:55 PM

wow @LordSk

Whenever Lord messes with something, it becomes something cool

LordSk 12-Nov-18 09:56 PM

hahahaha

yeah I'm not so sure about that

Dune 12-Nov-18 09:56 PM

I just get bugs :(

LordSk 12-Nov-18 09:56 PM

I just exposed the broken code it's alright

I didn't break it myself

Dune 12-Nov-18 09:57 PM

hahaha

you just exposed the ninja+hook+game over bug too

Hello @guenstig werben

Mind introducing yourself? (edited)

Feels like I'm supposed to know you somehow :)

Fisico 12-Nov-18 10:04 PM

thought the same

Dune 12-Nov-18 10:05 PM

Oh hey @rand() btw, nice to have you here

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:13 PM

i was that ranting dude on the forums

@Dune never cared to switch username over there

rand() 12-Nov-18 10:16 PM

starts lurking

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:17 PM

Dune 12-Nov-18 10:33 PM

@guenstig werben "ranting dude on the forums" apply to a good dozen of forum members

what was your nickname over there?

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:33 PM

;)

Schwertspizs

Dune 12-Nov-18 10:33 PM

ah, I see

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:33 PM

Damn I can't even type it out eifht

Dune 12-Nov-18 10:33 PM

haha

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:33 PM

xD

other thing i'm wondering

future plans for discord

Dune 12-Nov-18 10:34 PM

Hold on, now that you introduced yourself, I should answer your messages

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:34 PM

xD

wuv u 2

❤ (edited)

@Dune is that server nonpublic

Dune 12-Nov-18 10:39 PM

no, it suddenly crashed/got turned off @guenstig werben

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:39 PM

wanna actually voice chat or something, i'd be open for it

Dune 12-Nov-18 10:42 PM

eh, sure, I don't have much time

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:42 PM

xD

(is that a yes?)

Dune 12-Nov-18 10:43 PM

sure, can

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:43 PM

sec

Dune 12-Nov-18 10:43 PM

it's better to keep a written log for most things so others can participate though.

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:43 PM

sure

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 10:53 PM

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 11:19 PM

My two cents, @Dune it's gonna live a lot longer

But it's not in broad use for good reasons xD

Dune 12-Nov-18 11:19 PM

what "it", IRC?

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 11:19 PM

Whatever

Yeah

Dune 12-Nov-18 11:20 PM

IRC is a very simple protocol to implement

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 11:20 PM

But discord as well xD

Dune 12-Nov-18 11:20 PM

is it? I didn't know

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 11:20 PM

Well idk

I've been quite involved for several reasons, I know the pros and cons

Dune 12-Nov-18 11:20 PM

involved with?

guenstig werben 12-Nov-18 11:21 PM

Discord

For a different game

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Hello there

Dune 13-Nov-18 12:31 PM

Hey @rick

guenstig werben 13-Nov-18 04:12 PM

Uh hey @rick

rick 13-Nov-18 04:16 PM

@Dune Tell me of the waters of your teeworld, Usul

Dune 13-Nov-18 04:17 PM

He who controls spice controls the Teeworlds

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rick 13-Nov-18 04:18 PM

You really are the Kwisatz Haderach!

Kull wahad!

guenstig werben 13-Nov-18 04:56 PM

xxD

Fisico 13-Nov-18 07:29 PM

wow... good to see landil back..

Dune 13-Nov-18 07:45 PM

:) ikr

@Fisico ever noticed the feet of the tees being misplaced? like too far left? (edited)

Fisico 13-Nov-18 07:46 PM

no

ChillerDragon 13-Nov-18 09:31 PM

@Fisico landil is back!? what where how since when woot

Dune 13-Nov-18 09:35 PM

he doesn't have much time to give, it's only for general directions stuff, normally @ChillerDragon

ChillerDragon 13-Nov-18 09:36 PM

where can i see or touch him?

Dune 13-Nov-18 09:36 PM

we are going to erect a statue for that purpose

ChillerDragon 13-Nov-18 09:36 PM

ok nice

Dune 13-Nov-18 09:36 PM

jk, irc

ChillerDragon 13-Nov-18 09:37 PM

woop was scrolling too fast on #bridge eheh

i see him o.O

Dune 13-Nov-18 09:37 PM

^^ he briefly popped. again, not much time on his hands it seems

Fisico 13-Nov-18 09:42 PM

yea

Dune 13-Nov-18 09:42 PM

@ChillerDragon read the log, family

ChillerDragon 13-Nov-18 09:43 PM

@Dune he has no time for nothing not even for a hobby because he is doing family 24/7 ?

does he have like children and stuff lul

Dune 13-Nov-18 09:44 PM

yes @ChillerDragon

ChillerDragon 13-Nov-18 09:44 PM

oh boi

Fisico 13-Nov-18 10:03 PM

they get older and he will have time again

maybe they help with graphics than

with such a great dad.. lol

Dune 13-Nov-18 10:05 PM

@Fisico or maybe we have several Landils by then :D

Fisico 13-Nov-18 10:09 PM

yea

guenstig werben 13-Nov-18 10:38 PM

@Dune question, how do i get the two way role?

Dune 13-Nov-18 10:39 PM

@guenstig werben Send an envelope with cash to me

or read the topic :)

guenstig werben 13-Nov-18 10:40 PM

uh

huh

thanks

guenstig werben 13-Nov-18 11:04 PM

besides @Dune i'd split #development into a channel where you get the github pings and one where to discuss development (well, rather just make it readonly and discuss development here or in #bridge )

Dune 13-Nov-18 11:18 PM

I thought about that too but git isn't always as active and spammy as now. Kinda exceptional :)

Being able to react to a commit or to conclude a discussion by an issue is nice I think. If the ratio of git messages/chat stays too high I'll consider splitting

guenstig werben 13-Nov-18 11:22 PM

Ok

mogthefrog 14-Nov-18 10:21 AM

Is 1.7.1 out? :)

Also, are the new maps good?

Dune 14-Nov-18 10:55 AM

Not yet @mogthefrog

Dune 14-Nov-18 11:49 AM

Spanish translations almost done, would be nice to have those for the next version

@1stDecadeTW and others

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Fisico 16-Nov-18 08:26 PM

@Zatline @Sonix you are designing such cool images with great ideas.. maybe take a look at this issue... https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1051 if there are graphics I think it will get implemented faster. The TF2 way is cool

quickstart page · Issue #1051 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Add a quickstart page(toggle with server browser) to play a game: images+description for every gametype which are selectable(maybe arrange like: you vs all, team vs team) adjustable server level ma...

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hello

LordSk 17-Nov-18 06:32 PM

@Der_Sojajunge hello!

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Dune 20-Nov-18 12:38 PM

Upcoming 0.7.1: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12581

Upcoming 0.7.1 (Page 1) — Developer Journals — Teeworlds Forum

Upcoming 0.7.1 (Page 1) — Developer Journals — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

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guenstig werben 22-Nov-18 04:42 PM

oh hay @Xusep#6522

Dune 22-Nov-18 04:43 PM

I think he's gone.

guenstig werben 22-Nov-18 04:43 PM

oh yeah nvm

WTrawi 22-Nov-18 05:16 PM

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suck.ur.mum 22-Nov-18 07:41 PM

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fokkonaut 23-Nov-18 07:53 PM

where are all the servers?

on 0.7

Sonix 23-Nov-18 07:57 PM

hidin

Dune 23-Nov-18 08:20 PM

Protocol changed @fokkonaut

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Protocol changed

so 0.8 incoming or 0.7 will be yanked :D?

Dune 24-Nov-18 08:16 PM

ohey bear :)

0.7.0 will just be that strange experimental/beta thing I guess

Jogger 24-Nov-18 09:04 PM

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slinacK 25-Nov-18 04:15 PM

you should just stick to the naming convention and the idea that only major releases break compatibility and call it 0.8

who cares

Dune 25-Nov-18 04:47 PM

or label 0.7.0 a beta :)

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want to share your thoughts on IRC?

cin 25-Nov-18 10:50 PM

may I request those two-way privileges?

Dune 25-Nov-18 10:54 PM

Done, @cin

IRC rules (https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=rules/irc_rules) apply on #bridge

cin 25-Nov-18 10:55 PM

great, thanks!

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why that shit bombay gets more players than exec

ChillerDragon 02-Dec-18 10:47 AM

what is bombay

ZombieToad 02-Dec-18 12:10 PM

exec is owned by retarded ddosers

vali and captain teemo

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hello

Dune 02-Dec-18 05:45 PM

hello

Deleted User 02-Dec-18 06:00 PM

t fr

tu ses comment creer un maps teeworlds @Dune

Dune 02-Dec-18 06:00 PM

this channel is english-only, @Deleted User

Deleted User 02-Dec-18 06:01 PM

forgiveness google translation @Dune

how do you create a teeworlds @Dune maps

Dune 02-Dec-18 06:04 PM

https://www.google.fr/search?q=site%3Ateeworlds.com+map+editor&oq=site%3Ateeworlds.com+map+editor&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.4969j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Deleted User 02-Dec-18 06:05 PM

thanks

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Dune 03-Dec-18 12:31 PM

0.7.1 release candidate is out! Blog announcement: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal Downloads: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=downloads Report bugs at: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122036 OR github PS: scroll down a bit for a changelist (edited)

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Dune 03-Dec-18 01:57 PM

@everyone With 0.7.1-rc out, everyone is welcome to upgrade servers and clients and report any bugs before the final release!

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Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 01:58 PM

ill stay with 0.6

Fluffy 03-Dec-18 01:58 PM

@Dune do u really think its ready for a release?

Im not sure about it

Savander 03-Dec-18 01:59 PM

its' RC

Release Candidate

It's like beta

Dune 03-Dec-18 01:59 PM

There are no known bugs. It is a Release Candidate, if you find any bugs, report them so we can have a smooth release

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 01:59 PM

@Fluffy found the next security vuln already? hehe

Fluffy 03-Dec-18 01:59 PM

Ye but he said before the final release

Savander 03-Dec-18 01:59 PM

before, the 0.7.1

(final)

version

Fluffy 03-Dec-18 01:59 PM

It ist so mich work what u done till yet

Savander 03-Dec-18 01:59 PM

but,there'll be more versions, as far as i know

Fluffy 03-Dec-18 01:59 PM

It isnt so much

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:00 PM

Final as in definite. We're still moving on and developing things of course :)

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:00 PM

That's curious point of view

LordSk 03-Dec-18 02:01 PM

@Ryozuki why though?

WsY[FU]? 03-Dec-18 02:04 PM

Is anywhere a list of changes?

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:04 PM

we're still compiling that

WsY[FU]? 03-Dec-18 02:05 PM

Alright

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:05 PM

You can read through last 450 commits

!

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:05 PM

I should hurry up and release one, yeah

Either way, here is a draft:

Client: - background menu map (optional, theme selector) - new design for the menu - start menu (optional) - reworked server browser with customizable filters - localization support for game message/events - whisper to another player - saves master server list and uses them in case the masters are unreachable - support for composed binds - chat got an overhaul - updated to SDL2. Multiple monitor support, support for non-english keyboards, possible to change vsync, fullscreen without restarting the client. - fps limiter - server browser got redesigned - scoreboard got remodelled and show kills/deaths now - no need for tileset_borderfix or dilate anymore - favourites support hostnames - seperated input from rendering - fixed various GUI locks - ninja powerup got a cooldown bar Server: - broadcasts got an overhaul and support colours (optional) - ready system, which lets you easily pause a game - server difficult setting which is shown to players - improved spectator mode: follow flags, click on a player to follow them General - 2 new game types: "Last man standing" and "last team standing" where you have to survive by your own or as a team - new maps - new skin system. Allows to build your own skins based on a variety of provided parts. - support for 64 players. Official game types are still restricted to a maximum of 16 players but allow up to 64 spectator slots. - all communication requires a handshake and uses a token to counter spoofing attacks - initial token request for a handshake is much larger than the answer to counter reflection attacks

(edited)

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Savander 03-Dec-18 02:07 PM

- seperated input from rendering

that's cool

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:08 PM

"- support for 64 players. Official game types are still restricted to a maximum of 16 players but allow up to 64 spectator slots."

this means mods can use 64p easily?

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:08 PM

Yes.

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:08 PM

thats good

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:08 PM

- improved spectator mode: follow flags, click on a player to follow them

that's weird one

there's no cursor, to click player

i mean, it's invisible

wouldn't be better, to hav eit

i mena

LordSk 03-Dec-18 02:09 PM

Spectator ui is a mess yeah

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:09 PM

to click the nickname on

scoreboard?

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:10 PM

You can still use the 0.6 way with a spectator menu

LordSk 03-Dec-18 02:10 PM

we can't do everything unfortunately, so this area will be improved in future versions

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:10 PM

0.6 way?

you couldn't follow the player, if I remember?

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:11 PM

I think so? with a bind

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:11 PM

I could, in DDNet clien t( i guess)

WsY[FU]? 03-Dec-18 02:12 PM

+spectate

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:12 PM

but not in vanilla one

i mean, yea. You could follow player by hand

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:12 PM

If I remember correctly that was a vanilla feature

@Savander this is the spectate menu you can bind to a key since 0.6

WsY[FU]? 03-Dec-18 02:14 PM

it's +spectate

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:14 PM

is the client locked to a max of 64p or the protocol allows more if you want?

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:15 PM

Lots of info needs to be statically declared in the client, so 64p is a max.

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:15 PM

sad

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:16 PM

Didn't Bill Gates say 64K ought to be enough for anybody?

WsY[FU]? 03-Dec-18 02:16 PM

64 is a made up number, how many times you've seen a server filled with 64 active players

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:16 PM

on ddnet? everyday xD

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:16 PM

ye daily basis

WsY[FU]? 03-Dec-18 02:16 PM

You all be afking

Wasting slots

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:16 PM

no

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:16 PM

?

no

itsb etter to not have a locked number

let ppl decide on mods

im fine with vanilla locked at 16p

i dont play it anyway

but having client support

for any client number

is a nice thing

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:17 PM

This is a technical issue, @Ryozuki . You allocate memory statically based on the maximum amount of players.

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:17 PM

Hmm, cool. Didn't know 0.6tw had that option

or i just played too much on ddnet client

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:17 PM

we could make it dynamic then

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:17 PM

Dynamically allocating memory for each player would need to revamp a large part of the code base.

You can suggest it. Upgrades can be suggested there: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12594

[SUGGESTION] Ideas for the next version (0.7 and +) (Page 1) — D...

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Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:18 PM

hmm

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:18 PM

just allocate 128 statiuc

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:18 PM

i doubt it would be made if its a lot of work

@ChillerDragon but clients would need to be modified too

and most ppl wont do that

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:18 PM

i am talking about vanilla

upgrade to a max limit of 128

that would be fine for mods i guess

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:19 PM

i dont think that is the way to go xD

well its nice to see oficial 64p support

i would have never expected it

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:19 PM

Well, 16 -> 64 is already a large upgrade. We will see :)

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:20 PM

now i can mod 64p from a clean base

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:20 PM

it is no upgrade for the moddign community

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:20 PM

A lot of menus had to be adapted.

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:20 PM

thats nice

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:20 PM

we are used to 64

but it is still very nice to have solid vanilla support c:

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:20 PM

are utf8 names supported? i remember some weird things

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:20 PM

yup, i like it either

utf8mb4!

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:21 PM

Well i have not many players on my servers but i like minigames with serverside bots and reaching the 64p limit goes way too fast

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:22 PM

With static allocation, things can get resource consuming quickly (thinking of the network too).

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:22 PM

hmm

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:23 PM

having cmake support is lovely for my ide

thanks got i didnt like bam

god*

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:23 PM

ide sux

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:23 PM

ide r gud

im only a hardcore vim c user when making simple things

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:24 PM

ide means I'm going

in Polish (edited)

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:24 PM

xD

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:24 PM

heheh!

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:24 PM

time to port teesmash

altho nobody plays it

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:25 PM

xd

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:27 PM

I mean, i really like what tw 0.7.* have done. Especially the 64p support

and improvements in security/UI

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:27 PM

lms

skin sys

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:27 PM

skins is the only meh

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:28 PM

ye i also dilike the new skin sys

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:28 PM

so many nice skins on 0.6

which cant be used

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:28 PM

will be a rough time getting used to 0.7

@Ryozuki come nobo drag me through back in time 2

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 02:28 PM

xd

wait i update my fork

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:29 PM

yo @Dune when was the last protocol update?

I have a realitvly new fork and removed the graphics but the client keeps connecting to servers for ever and i dont know whay

Or is it some sort of anti spoof=

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:30 PM

I bet, someone will make tool

to convert, or (at least) help to convert (edited)

old skins to new system

xD

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:31 PM

a tool for converting maps aswell for sure

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:31 PM

were there major changes

to maps?

Map editor looks the same

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:31 PM

tilesets

especially doodads look buggy

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:32 PM

i mean

now you don't need to dialte

and do these stuff

to make it work properly

but something more?

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:32 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1729

Update tilesets and graphics (#1222) by Sonix- · Pull Request #17...

Tilesets got updated without borderfix and dilate applied to them Desert, Winter and Grass tilesets are updated to 0.7 with 1 tile high platforms Doubled the resolution for clouds Desert got a tiny...

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:34 PM

okay, so it's only graphically

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:34 PM

We'll need to compile something more user-friendly

Tilesets changed a bit

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:34 PM

+1

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:34 PM

Generally, i would like to see improvements in map editor

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like, undo/redo

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:34 PM

I heard there are some things on the works

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:34 PM

maybe in future (edited)

There's experimental feature in ddnet

(maybe now, not experimental, didn't played for a while)

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:35 PM

For undo?

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:36 PM

yes (edited)

Oh, !

Does tw 0.7.1 allows you to

make map config?

so, if you load ( for example ), dm1. Server executes automatically, config for that map

and the general config?

I made it on my servers, cause it's super usefull

https://github.com/savander/TeeWorlds-Configs/tree/master/VanillaModConfigs

savander/TeeWorlds-Configs

Contribute to savander/TeeWorlds-Configs development by creating an account on GitHub.

I mean, there are pure configs

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:43 PM

If you do this through a call vote, you can make the command sv_map dm1; exec dm1.cfg, but I don't think there is such a feature right now

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:43 PM

and, i Made few changes to base code. TO make it work

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:44 PM

Sounds interesting though, you should propose

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:44 PM

https://github.com/savander/VanillaMod/commit/72e5f58ebe16f18c2372a26b2fdb09f2e6ffcb40

Autoexec map config · savander/VanillaMod@72e5f58

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:45 PM

hm :)

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:45 PM

I think, it should be checked before execution

(since, there could be no config)

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:45 PM

Yeah, it sounds good

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:45 PM

But I made it in 2015, so no much experience ;PP

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:45 PM

By the way, there is also a flag that can be set server-side for bots

This way you can add bots to the server and the client can select whether he wants them to appear in the players count in the browser or not

It is "Hide bots" iirc

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:46 PM

yea, i saw that option

Bots, uses player slots?

Or, it's independent? (edited)

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:46 PM

They have to, since the client has to know about them

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:47 PM

okay, cool :d

I don't know. I'm super exicted about new teeworlds version. I'm playuinc since 0.4.2

(now, not active tho)

but still!

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:48 PM

That's cool!

The gametype icons in the server browser are customizable by the way

e.g. you can add ddrace.png to have an icon for ddrace

(default icon is mod)

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:49 PM

Really? cool

btw. What does it mean, that i can choose

difficulty?

WHat i changes? It changes anything?

or just visually

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:49 PM

it's just a cosmetic on the server browser. you can have your server be an angry tee, a smiling tee, etc :)

yeah just visual

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:49 PM

quite cool

now, clan's can have

their own icons (edited)

:PP

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:50 PM

hm, clans?

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:51 PM

I mean, oyu said that we can customize these icons

so, for example. Clan servers

could have their own icon

on their servers

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:51 PM

the difficulty icons are not that customizable

the gametype icons are :)

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:51 PM

Oh, that near to map name?

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:51 PM

yeah

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:52 PM

Cool, it could be colorful?

Or it's force to white ;d

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:52 PM

it is colourful in the details

it is black&white in the browser

but you can break that convention, nothing is forced I believe

Savander 03-Dec-18 02:53 PM

Okay, that's great

I really like, these small details

Dune 03-Dec-18 02:54 PM

these small details take weeks though

ZombieToad 03-Dec-18 02:55 PM

on windows7 teeworlds 0.7.1 it wont let me play with resolution higher than my desktop resolution

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:55 PM

richtclick @ZombieToad

ZombieToad 03-Dec-18 02:55 PM

if i choose 4k and i restart game it goes to 2k

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:55 PM

properties

-> compability

high dpi

[x] override dpi sclaing

oh wait win7 idk if it works there aswell

ZombieToad 03-Dec-18 02:58 PM

teeworlds 0.6 works fine with 4k

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 02:59 PM

not for me

everything is so different everywhere -.-

ZombieToad 03-Dec-18 02:59 PM

well its not just a problem with 4k if i set my desktop resolutin to 1600 x 900 it wont go any higher aswell

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 03:00 PM

why would u want to go higehr as desktop anyways?

Savander 03-Dec-18 03:01 PM

to downscale things!

better grpahics, no need to antialiasing!

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 03:01 PM

hm? never heard of that i only realized if tw resolutions from desktop u get a lot of bugsis with all the windows

ZombieToad 03-Dec-18 03:02 PM

i play games in fullscreen

but i like my desktop 2k otherwise everything is tiny

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:03 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1659#issuecomment-438009774

Unable to change resolution on macOS · Issue #1659 · teeworlds/t...

I realized the game looks pretty pixalated so i went to the graphics settings and i wonderd why the resoltion is so low. Then I tried to increase it. But after restart the same option was selected ...

I thought restricting to the desktop resolution was a MacOS thing

might want to report the bug then

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 03:04 PM

y it is a unix macro

wait im not sure if unix but defnetly macos

just MACOSX

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/commit/b81e29535053eb55ace213b8da5fc421def90fac

added some workaround for macosx · teeworlds/teeworlds@b81e295

Fluffy 03-Dec-18 03:16 PM

@ZombieToad btw exec is owned only by me and bombay is owned by marcella, teemo, lickout, noby, cider, rei (edited)

the new ddos crew is there

enjoy the tw special fun

Savander 03-Dec-18 03:18 PM

I see, that autoload, map configs

were proprosed in past

and was rejected twice

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:19 PM

that reminds me of something yeah

Savander 03-Dec-18 03:19 PM

so maybe, i won't make an proposal about that

but, i think it's super usefull

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:19 PM

hmm

I think so too

Savander 03-Dec-18 03:19 PM

I even gave good example

my repository

is good exmaple xD

how it could be useful :p (edited)

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:19 PM

you should make a case for it on the forums at least

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12594

[SUGGESTION] Ideas for the next version (0.7 and +) (Page 1) — D...

[SUGGESTION] Ideas for the next version (0.7 and +) (Page 1) — Development — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

and then you can mention #1451 and #514

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:28 PM

@Savander btw https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/552

Editor: undo/redo function · Issue #552 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Add undo/redo functionality to the editor.

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 03:29 PM

am i blind or tw doesnt have cmakelists.txt? was cmake removed?

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 03:29 PM

heinrichs repo

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:30 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1730

Add CMake (and a couple of other fixes) by heinrich5991 · Pull Re...

Fix #1586.

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 03:30 PM

why is it not oficial?

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:30 PM

CMake port to 0.7 is pending

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 03:30 PM

not yt

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:30 PM

need a few checks first

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 03:30 PM

ah

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:30 PM

Still not working: 0) Mac bundle doesn't find data directory. Things to check before merging: - Still builds with bam on Windows. - Builds with CMake natively in MSVS. Harder to check (because Mac) 3) Builds with CMake on Mac.

Savander 03-Dec-18 03:30 PM

heinrich5991 commented on 27 Jul 2012 probably won't happen in 0.7.0 imo

hahaha

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:30 PM

:)

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 03:32 PM

@Dune i got everything working except visualstudio

Dune 03-Dec-18 03:32 PM

cool, should be merged soon then

ChillerDragon 03-Dec-18 03:32 PM

ye cpuld be merged in this state

Ryozuki 03-Dec-18 03:35 PM

git pull https://github.com/heinrich5991/teeworlds pr_cmake did the trick

heinrich5991/teeworlds

My fork of teeworlds - if you're looking for something specific I already created, pm me, I usually keep stuff. - heinrich5991/teeworlds

aw

it fails to compile

sad

Dune 03-Dec-18 07:01 PM

@Savander will you report your problems this evening?

Savander 03-Dec-18 07:04 PM

I;m not sure

Dune 03-Dec-18 07:06 PM

oy is online, so it's a good time to discuss them

otherwise @LordSk might be able to help, I think you guys talked

Savander 03-Dec-18 07:07 PM

Yes, we talked yesterday. I think, he knows the problem very well

LordSk 03-Dec-18 07:08 PM

Do you want me to report the issues @Savander then?

Savander 03-Dec-18 07:09 PM

If you can, i have no free time now

LordSk 03-Dec-18 07:09 PM

alright

daze 04-Dec-18 05:00 AM

Joined the server.

Voideroid 04-Dec-18 05:00 AM

Joined the server.

anckurgnh 04-Dec-18 09:03 AM

Joined the server.

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 04:48 PM

does gfx_refreshrate work for anyone here? doesn't work to limit framerate for me, win10 64bit

also shooting with mousewheel was drastically gimped? should be increased to allow for faster fire rate (the same you would have when clicking mouse1 all the time, but not faster )

Savander 04-Dec-18 04:52 PM

does it work without restart?

gfx_refresh_rate, not working for me either. But i'm not sure, what it's responsible for

Dune 04-Dec-18 04:53 PM

hey @Captain_AMN

Savander 04-Dec-18 04:53 PM

Limit_FPS from settings

works fine

Dune 04-Dec-18 04:54 PM

if you²re looking to limit FPS, gfx_refreshrate isn't what you need

it's limitfps

you have an option in the Settings menu, in Graphics, like @Savander said

Savander 04-Dec-18 04:55 PM

what is gfx_refresh_rate for?

Dune 04-Dec-18 04:55 PM

for... the refresh rate? :p

Savander 04-Dec-18 04:55 PM

deprecated ?

Dune 04-Dec-18 04:55 PM

if you have vsync on I believe

Savander 04-Dec-18 04:55 PM

but, but deafult it's 0

Dune 04-Dec-18 04:56 PM

btw I believe the delay for shooting with mousewheel is still 125ms, same value since... 0.4.0? if that changed it sounds like a bug @Captain_AMN (edited)

Savander 04-Dec-18 04:56 PM

i turned on, v-sync

and that settings do nothing

Dune 04-Dec-18 04:57 PM

might need a restart

Savander 04-Dec-18 04:57 PM

nope, nothing at all D

hmm!

Dune 04-Dec-18 04:57 PM

hmm, I think GfxRefreshRate isn1t used anywhere in the code actually. hold on

Savander 04-Dec-18 04:58 PM

It's great, that you can switch between fullscreen, vsync and borderless

without restart

Dune 04-Dec-18 04:58 PM

yeah it's not.

this setting should be removed

Savander 04-Dec-18 04:59 PM

great

Tha hell

the guy, has no nickname at all

I mean, no characters

or invisible characters

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:00 PM

yes, it's possible

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:00 PM

should be?

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:00 PM

that's intended, there is no limit anymore (ids are supposed to fix that)

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:01 PM

how to mention them then

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:01 PM

you c an't

hm, that sounds like an oversight though. Should be mentioned in an issue that the server could assign (1) like in 0.6

at least for pings

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:02 PM

strange decision, i think

looks funny tho

OKAY

the weird part is

he's not represented

on scoreboard

at all

no ping, no score

but he's playing

what the

he's not event presented as a player on server

servers says

1/32

: O

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:05 PM

huh, that is a bug

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:05 PM

that's weird

i changed nickname to null

i mean, to nothing

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:05 PM

might be a known one

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:05 PM

and servers sees me

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:05 PM

you have to reconnect

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:05 PM

i know

i can't even change name

while playing

i mean, no tab for it

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:06 PM

yeah, that's intended

which server did you see this no-info player on?

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:06 PM

AEON

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:07 PM

hmm

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:07 PM

maybe it's old one, idk. I can join

and 0.7.0 is not compatiblie with 0.7.1

soo.

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:07 PM

it probably runs 0.7.1-rc

yeah, it's a known bug of the RC

I believe it was already fixed

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:07 PM

oh, okay

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:08 PM

wait, not sure

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1748

64 players problem · Issue #1748 · teeworlds/teeworlds

When joining a 64 player server with a client in debug mode, some players aren't introduced.

it was fixed before the RC

can you check what the version string of that server says, @Savander ?

does it say 0.7.1?

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:09 PM

yes

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:09 PM

huh, that is odd

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:10 PM

but, he saiid

- protocol object didn't update properly when changing max_clients

We didn't change that value, if I understand

it's used, to set max-players on server

but yes, the server has 32p

setting

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:11 PM

well if that is indeed a RC server as it seems, need to report that and investigate :)

not sure who runs those, @Sonix might know

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:11 PM

we can always, compile code with current status

and run server

i can do this on VPS

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:11 PM

well, do you know how to reproduce?

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:11 PM

not actually

he just joined

xD

without name

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:12 PM

that's the issue :)

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:12 PM

and has id 1

now, i have id 0

and im presented on scoreboard

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:12 PM

so he joined after you

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:12 PM

yes

Hmm

I joined, with second client

and i don't see the problem, i saw before

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:13 PM

You have a github account?

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:13 PM

ofc

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:14 PM

will you open an issue?

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:14 PM

Sure, but unfortunately, no screenshots

oh kay

without nickname, you can't use chat

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:15 PM

well

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:15 PM

there's no option

to disable chat?

right? xD

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:15 PM

there probably is

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:15 PM

hmm

I mean, i see chat

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:15 PM

show social

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:15 PM

but can't use it

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:15 PM

hu

huh

you can't type in it?

you're sure you din't just disable Show Social?

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:16 PM

nope

i just changed name

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:16 PM

eh

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:16 PM

and now i can use

I think, that nikcname

is used somewhere in code

to check certain things

and, if you don't set one

you are like, disabled from

several things

like, showing up on sccoreboard

or

writing on chat

don't know, why! Maybe, something in network-specific

stuff

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:18 PM

I think that player had a nickname, you just don't see it

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:21 PM

noppe

I mean, there were no

ping

no score

nothing

there's awlays a score, if you play

at least "0"

the same with ping. There were blank space

link noone is there

Something changed, in teeworlds compiling?

Dune 04-Dec-18 05:24 PM

Compiling?

Since 0.6 yes

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=compiling_everything

Savander 04-Dec-18 05:27 PM

Link should b added

to bam0.5*

Kss 04-Dec-18 05:46 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 04-Dec-18 06:30 PM

hello in a server ddrace how did to team up with a guy

@Dune

Dune 04-Dec-18 06:47 PM

no idea, don't ask me

ChillerDragon 04-Dec-18 06:48 PM

join the same team number via the /team chat command @Deleted User teams numbers are from 1 to 64 so for example you can both join team 22 by typing '/team 22' in chat

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 06:53 PM

@Dune thanks!i will try limitfps. I don't know how many ms are between mousewheel shots, but it is significantly slower for me now than it used to be.

Dune 04-Dec-18 06:54 PM

@Captain_AMN limit is supposed to be 125ms

8/s

wow, you're right, it's very slow

oh, or it needs more wheel inputs

I believe that is because the input system got changed

come to the AEON server I show you I can still do 8bullet/s

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 06:56 PM

I only shoot with mousewheel because i have carpal tunnel in my right fingers... so i noticed immediately

Dune 04-Dec-18 06:56 PM

but that should be reported on github I guess

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 06:56 PM

can you give me a link to download 0.7 windows 64bit?

Dune 04-Dec-18 06:56 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=downloads

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 06:56 PM

my CPU segaults when compiling

Dune 04-Dec-18 06:56 PM

https://downloads.teeworlds.com/teeworlds-0.7.1-rc-win64.zip

it's on teeworlds.com, you don't need to compile it yourself

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 06:57 PM

whoa, nice work

didn't notice

appreciate it

Dune 04-Dec-18 06:58 PM

should read the blog announcement :) https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 06:58 PM

i missed it

ChillerDragon 04-Dec-18 06:58 PM

@Dune xd do you have stats how many ppl read the blog?

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 06:58 PM

didn't know you guys are so active, cool

Dune 04-Dec-18 06:59 PM

http://github.com/teeworlds/

https://gyazo.com/52e167b2570ad899f04eabf6daa8af34

Teeworlds has 4 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

look at that git activity spike ;o

no @ChillerDragon

bugs are fixed fast, you can report them directly on github or on the forums

slinacK 04-Dec-18 06:59 PM

@redix when is teerace getting updated? (edited)

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 06:59 PM

no servers online, am i doing something wrong?

Dune 04-Dec-18 07:00 PM

probably yes

Fisico 04-Dec-18 07:00 PM

yea they are on... pls screenshot the filter settings.. something is a mess with new config files i think

Dune 04-Dec-18 07:01 PM

if you used an early 0.7 teeworlds it might be messed up and you might want to clear filters yes

Fisico 04-Dec-18 07:01 PM

had the same issue a long time ago.. but i tought it was my crappy config from the trunk builds

fresh from 0.6.5 there is no issue dune?

ShootXen 04-Dec-18 07:03 PM

we need also a christmas hat for this server (edited)

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 07:03 PM

lol nvm got it

i thought ur nick is Dune

ingame

ShootXen 04-Dec-18 07:04 PM

His ingame name is Dune (edited)

Captain_AMN 04-Dec-18 07:05 PM

@Dune can u show me now how u shoot fast?

Dune 04-Dec-18 07:06 PM

yes @Captain_AMN

Dune 04-Dec-18 07:32 PM

@slinacK that's not the easiest task, since SushiTee isn't around

redix 04-Dec-18 07:48 PM

@slinacK not too soon i guess =\

i hope we can get the website back up soon... but migrating to 0.7 will take some time

ChillerDragon 04-Dec-18 07:52 PM

what happend

why is it down @redix ?

redix 04-Dec-18 07:56 PM

sushi has a new server as far as i know... chaosk updated the whole code of the website but until now nobody migrated the stuff to a new server... chaosk said something about moving it to aws i think (edited)

ChillerDragon 04-Dec-18 07:57 PM

hmm

MertenNor 04-Dec-18 08:17 PM

Joined the server.

hey

ChillerDragon 04-Dec-18 08:18 PM

ay

Dune 04-Dec-18 08:24 PM

hey :)

Dune 04-Dec-18 09:32 PM

we're having a ctf3 game @Captain_AMN :2

Dune 04-Dec-18 09:50 PM

oo

this ready_state feature is surprisingly handy

Slayer *gV* 04-Dec-18 09:56 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 04-Dec-18 09:58 PM

Welcome, @Slayer *gV*

Compiling Teeworlds: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=compiling_everything

Slayer *gV* 04-Dec-18 09:59 PM

Joined the server.

Hello, World!

jao 04-Dec-18 10:05 PM

hello

Deleted User 04-Dec-18 10:31 PM

can you give me your versions of teeworlds example team ...

MertenNor 04-Dec-18 11:06 PM

is it UDP or TCP

WATER OG DAWG 69 05-Dec-18 12:13 AM

Joined the server.

Slayer *gV* 05-Dec-18 12:20 AM

@MertenNor UDP

1

Voideroid 05-Dec-18 07:26 AM

hello what is the meta

ShootXen 05-Dec-18 08:46 AM

Pew pew on tees

Ryozuki 05-Dec-18 11:30 AM

Zargon 05-Dec-18 01:40 PM

Joined the server.

heyo

Dune 05-Dec-18 01:42 PM

hi

Freshy 05-Dec-18 03:23 PM

Joined the server.

MertenNor 05-Dec-18 05:23 PM

any idea what os to install on my Pi3 to get a server running

Nat 05-Dec-18 06:54 PM

Joined the server.

getkey 05-Dec-18 10:29 PM

Raspbian

Khella 05-Dec-18 10:57 PM

Joined the server.

MertenNor 05-Dec-18 11:01 PM

@getkey server already running

Thanks

Dune 05-Dec-18 11:03 PM

cool to hear, @MertenNor

MertenNor 05-Dec-18 11:05 PM

@Dune tried to make instagib.. open the source code changed some stuff but dint see any changes ingame.. soo yeah xD

Neon_Br 06-Dec-18 05:16 AM

Joined the server.

luc 06-Dec-18 06:07 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 06-Dec-18 12:31 PM

@Captain_AMN I don't see anything changed with the mousewheel input specifically :/ I hope it's not due to the SDL upgrade

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 12:33 PM

Can anyone confirm this?

I ask some people to please try it ingame

1) go into console ingame (f1 key)

2) type this: bind mousewheelup "+fire"

3) and also: bind mousewheeldown "+fire"

4) now scroll the wheel up and down very fast and try your pistol and hammer

Now you can shoot very quickly with the mousewheel. It should be much easier than pressing left click +100times

Dune 06-Dec-18 12:39 PM

What is there to confirm?

What is your OS @Captain_AMN? Can you compile Teeworlds on your own to try out a fix?

well I guess I can try it out myself actually, nvm

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 12:48 PM

Win10 64bit. I can try it in the evening

Ösibengl 06-Dec-18 03:07 PM

Joined the server.

𝕵𝖔𝖊𝖑 06-Dec-18 03:15 PM

Joined the server.

MertenNor 06-Dec-18 05:04 PM

is there like a new type of vote settings in the server config?

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:05 PM

@Dune did u notice following bug:

When you hit enemy with shotgun, the stars that indicate damage are wronly displayed

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:05 PM

D:

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:05 PM

1 point damage equates to 1 star shown for all weapons

for shotgun, this is bugged somehow

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:05 PM

how is it bugged?

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:06 PM

full hit with shotgun: 1 star

full hit with rocket launcher: 6 stars

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:06 PM

hmm

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:06 PM

partial hit with shotgun: 1 star

medium hit: 2 stars

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:06 PM

well, I'll add that to my trophy shelves of bugs introduced in teeworlds

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:06 PM

you can test ingame if u want with me now

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:07 PM

damage indicators protocol was changed

I thought I tested it thoroughly enough with @LordSk :( (edited)

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:09 PM

also i forgot: was the damage dealt by rocket launcher always 6 hits?

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:09 PM

yeah?

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:09 PM

5 armor + 1 heart?

wasn't it 4 armor 1 heart? i forgot

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:10 PM

huh, the heart/armor damage calculation sounds off

it should be 6 damage

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:10 PM

thought max damage for all weapons was 5 HP

kk

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:10 PM

I think it's like 2 hearts 4 armor?

well ninja is 9

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:11 PM

ninja

2 hearts really? hmm (edited)

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:11 PM

well just test it

Captain_AMN 06-Dec-18 05:15 PM

5+1 it is on 0.6

so it's fine

so only the indicators are bugged for shotgun

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:19 PM

rip

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:27 PM

great, i know how to

change that directory huhu

I had to create CMakeSettings.json (it can be done via Visual Studio 2017 GUI

with that content:

{ "configurations": [ { "name": "x64-Debug", "generator": "Ninja", "configurationType": "Debug", "inheritEnvironments": [ "msvc_x64_x64" ], "buildRoot": "${workspaceRoot}\\bin\\build\\${name}", "installRoot": "${workspaceRoot}\\bin\\install\\${name}", "cmakeCommandArgs": "", "buildCommandArgs": "-v", "ctestCommandArgs": "" } ] }

especially these two lines:

"buildRoot": "${workspaceRoot}\\bin\\build\\${name}", "installRoot": "${workspaceRoot}\\bin\\install\\${name}",

everything else is generated by visual studio

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:29 PM

cmake

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:29 PM

I can even change compiler to MinGW

It's my first time with CMake and such.. lul

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:29 PM

gj figuring that out

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:29 PM

i mean, im not C/C++ programmer hahaha

hmmm

https://gyazo.com/ec547f3ac92e532b8ca118913112293d

something changed?

it's latest code from repo, compiled

and pre-compiled teeworlds

how that hash is generated?

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:36 PM

are you connecting to an non 0.7.1 server?

that hash is generated from the network code

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:37 PM

no, it's my server

compiled from current master

+ cmake pr

maybe cmake added something..

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:37 PM

well my client is 802f1

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:37 PM

i mean that pr

huh

but

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:37 PM

so your client is fine

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:37 PM

Yea rght, the second hash is client

sorry

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:38 PM

you're sure you merged the server with upstream/master?

heinrich's PR is based on an old master

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:38 PM

but Oy

made some changes as well

I mean, wait

I can't describe what i want to say, my english is not superb

https://gyazo.com/0ffc242639953e78093b653fe2743131

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:39 PM

yes, you still have to rebase with master if you want it to work

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:39 PM

he added some commits to pr

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:39 PM

yes

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:39 PM

how to rebasE?

I mean, i did it like

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:39 PM

git rebase master (edited)

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:39 PM

I fetch the pull to another branch

i pulled master

then i merged that pr to master

It's not enough ?

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:40 PM

might be, might not be

go to your server branch

and type git log

do you see recent commits or not?

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:40 PM

gfxrefreshrate

sorry, info.plist ist hte latest

then my merge

So I am at current stage of project

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:41 PM

looks like it, yeah

you probably didn't build the server or something

I don't have any trouble.

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:42 PM

how I don't build the server?

What do you mean

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:43 PM

when is the teeworlds_srv you launch last modified

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:44 PM

for sure now

i added additional code, and it's there

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:45 PM

how do you know it's there?

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:45 PM

I added new gametype

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:45 PM

ah

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:45 PM

and i see, it's included

:PP

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:45 PM

did you touch at the network?

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:45 PM

nope

just copied mod.cpp/mod.h

I mean, it doesnt' matter

cause, i test it

even without changes

that's weird. Could you try to compile server ?

Maybe, something changed that's all

^.^

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:47 PM

I mean, the master server works fine with the master client for me

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:47 PM

"master"?

ah ok

No, we are talking about different things. Sorry for confusion

files from "release"

are not compatible, with current master branch

right?

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:48 PM

huh, they should be

Savander 06-Dec-18 05:48 PM

xD

So i'm confused even more

Dune 06-Dec-18 05:49 PM

0.7.1-rc is compatible with master

normally

Dune 07-Dec-18 01:46 PM

Thanks for the report btw @Captain_AMN, the shotgun damage indicator issue is in the milestone: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/milestone/8

https://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/maps/maps/

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Nouveau compte Lily/Little1712 07-Dec-18 03:04 PM

Joined the server.

MertenNor 07-Dec-18 04:54 PM

does anyone have a list of old teeworlds maps?

Dune 07-Dec-18 04:55 PM

that's a good start

MertenNor 07-Dec-18 04:55 PM

oh its still up haha

Dune 07-Dec-18 04:55 PM

i miss run_guy25 :)

a lot of fun awful design

MertenNor 07-Dec-18 04:56 PM

never played xD

haha

MertenNor 07-Dec-18 05:15 PM

fixing up my old race maps

Dune 07-Dec-18 05:23 PM

gotta make up a race mod too :)

MertenNor 07-Dec-18 05:27 PM

I dont know coding but I would if I knew haha

MertenNor 07-Dec-18 05:40 PM

can you flip horisontal in the editor?

Dune 07-Dec-18 05:51 PM

yeah

there is something on top

MertenNor 07-Dec-18 05:52 PM

Thanks

Fudgy 07-Dec-18 07:44 PM

run guy 25 is still online on alot of servers and played daily

LordSk 08-Dec-18 01:13 AM

@Savander come on my server

Savander 08-Dec-18 02:02 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-c3IH9jdJc

MrSavander

TeeWorlds. Instagib

TeeWorlds

812 08-Dec-18 12:58 PM

Joined the server.

Fluffy 08-Dec-18 01:56 PM

Noob detected!!!

@Savander

Savander 08-Dec-18 02:10 PM

yeees

2009

;; 08-Dec-18 06:29 PM

Joined the server.

PlayerException 09-Dec-18 01:54 AM

Joined the server.

Hi

Savander 09-Dec-18 02:01 AM

Hi

(edited)

Blade 09-Dec-18 09:01 AM

Hi

WTrawi 09-Dec-18 09:09 AM

hey

Fluffy 09-Dec-18 12:04 PM

Hi

ubu 09-Dec-18 12:44 PM

Joined the server.

ChillerDragon 09-Dec-18 02:30 PM

ubu o.O (edited)

WsY[FU]? 09-Dec-18 08:08 PM

[quote=Landil]So far the the devs decided not to use these ... though magnet says that it was just a proof of concept and we did not have a proper map to test it.[/quote]

These[slopes]

Decided it was more of an offtop to post it on forums

feliun_tv 10-Dec-18 11:29 PM

Joined the server.

Voideroid 12-Dec-18 01:25 AM

Dune 12-Dec-18 01:35 AM

avoid that @Voideroid

Xarrek 12-Dec-18 10:51 AM

Joined the server.

MertenNor 12-Dec-18 09:19 PM

have some simple mod ideas. but dont know code.. anyone want to help?

Dune 12-Dec-18 09:22 PM

post on teeworlds.com :)

The Pro '' 12-Dec-18 09:40 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 12-Dec-18 09:40 PM

welcome, @The Pro ''

The Pro '' 12-Dec-18 09:40 PM

hey haha

bröki 12-Dec-18 09:48 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 12-Dec-18 10:19 PM

0.7.1 release is out! News: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12605 Downloads: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=downloads&id=12608 Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/380840/Teeworlds/ Changelog (major changes):

General + new gametypes: "last man standing" (LMS) and "last team standing" (LTS). survive by your own or as a team with limited weaponry + 64 players support. official gametypes are still restricted to 16 players maximum but allow more spectators + new skin system. build your own skins based on a variety of provided parts + enhanced security. all communications require a handshake and use a token to counter spoofing and reflection attacks + new maps: ctf8, dm3, lms1. Client + animated background menu map: jungle, heavens (day/night themes, customisable in the map editor) + new design for the menus: added start menus, reworked server browser, settings + customisable gametype icons (browser). make your own! + chat overhaul, whispers (private messages) + composed binds (ctrl+, shift+, alt+) + scoreboard remodelled, now shows kills/deaths + demo markers + master server list cache (in case the masters are unreachable) + input separated from rendering (optimisation) + upgrade to SDL2. support for multiple monitors, non-english keyboards, and more + 10 new languages + more... Server + broadcasts overhaul, optional colours support + ready system, for competitive settings + server difficulty setting (casual, competitive, normal), shown in the browser + spectator mode improvements: follow flags, click on players + bot flags for modified servers: indicate NPCs, can be filtered out in the server browser + more... Graphics + sharper graphics all around (no more tileset_borderfix and dilate) + refreshed the HUD, ninja cooldown, new mouse cursor + mapres update (higher resolution, fixes...) + more...

Full changelog & Maps: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal @everyone (edited)

0.7.1 released! (Page 1) — News — Teeworlds Forum

0.7.1 released! (Page 1) — News — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

https://github.com/teeworlds/documentation

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Deeper 12-Dec-18 10:20 PM

!

Fudgy 12-Dec-18 10:21 PM

Will playing 0.7.1 mess up my settings if I go back to 0.6?

Slayer *gV* 12-Dec-18 10:21 PM

Totally.

Fudgy 12-Dec-18 10:22 PM

so how can I have a setup where I can play 0.6 and 0.7 without them interfering with eachother

Dune 12-Dec-18 10:23 PM

@Fudgy Not that much, as far as I know. A few 0.7-specific features may get reset

Slayer *gV* 12-Dec-18 10:23 PM

@Dune It messed up my settings.

Dune 12-Dec-18 10:23 PM

Which?

Slayer *gV* 12-Dec-18 10:23 PM

I really didn't care enough.

Dune 12-Dec-18 10:24 PM

I'm constantly switching and didn't notice too much interference. You can save 0.7-specific settings in an autoexec.cfg next to the teeworlds.exe.

redix 12-Dec-18 10:28 PM

replace add_path $USERDIR with add_path twdata in storage.cfg where twdata is the path you want to store your 0.7 settings

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Ryozuki 12-Dec-18 10:42 PM

isnt catalan flag available on flag selection?

woah chat feels supper weird

i feel like it is missing some outline on the chars

aw still no cmake

MertenNor 12-Dec-18 10:49 PM

so.. this is cool: https://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/maps/web/

Teeworlds map collection

Palmiton 12-Dec-18 10:56 PM

Joined the server.

Zatline 12-Dec-18 10:58 PM

@MertenNor yeah it is that's where I found some maps I of mine I tought I had lost forever it's amazing

MertenNor 12-Dec-18 11:04 PM

@Zatline ikr!

MertenNor 13-Dec-18 12:27 AM

why does not this show up in my call vote?

addvote "change_map ctf1" "sv_map ctf1"

add_vote Not addvote

ChillerDragon 13-Dec-18 01:00 AM

I use git to track my settings lol @Slayer *gV*

And y Heinrichs map database is bae :3

Fudgy 13-Dec-18 01:02 AM

versionning your settings lol interesting

do you have branches for each client lol

ChillerDragon 13-Dec-18 01:02 AM

No multiple files

For gametypes

And i only use ddnet client.

It is super useful to have the settings in one place on GitHub and load it on every device and sync it as well (edited)

Fudgy 13-Dec-18 01:04 AM

ahhh right

to play at school ;)

ChillerDragon 13-Dec-18 01:04 AM

Exactly :3

I can get my setttings easy everywhere :) Cuz opensource. But I don’t have the sensitive data there like rcons teeracetoken and ddnet timeout code

WsY[FU]? 13-Dec-18 09:18 AM

uh, here we go again? (edited)

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 09:23 AM

...

WsY[FU]? 13-Dec-18 09:40 AM

I am probably doing something wrong, all other servers do not have this problem huh

Dune 13-Dec-18 09:55 AM

@WsY[FU]? probably server side testing :)

WsY[FU]? 13-Dec-18 09:58 AM

Not my end?

Dune 13-Dec-18 10:00 AM

Not sure, but probably not

WsY[FU]? 13-Dec-18 10:00 AM

Alright, thanks

mogthefrog 13-Dec-18 10:16 AM

been playing 1.7.1 and it's soo good this is the best

Savander 13-Dec-18 11:50 AM

Are you from future?

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 11:57 AM

will 0.7.1 be added to debian repo

Dune 13-Dec-18 12:03 PM

the debian repo has always been community managed. I flagged for new release on archlinux (edited)

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 02:35 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_settings this needs to be updated

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Dune 13-Dec-18 02:39 PM

Contribute to teeworlds/documentation development by creating an account on GitHub.

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 02:51 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/master/src/game/variables.h#L108 is here the "mod" gametype omitted on purpose? (edited)

High dpi mode by LordSk · Pull Request #1773 · teeworlds/teeworlds

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lovely teeworlds

Dune 13-Dec-18 02:53 PM

oh, you're right, nice catch. few people use the default "mod" gametype but it should still be added in the doc of the command :)

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 02:53 PM

yeah im using it

rn xD

maybe someone with write rights can make a commit directly

this is not worth a pr

Dune 13-Dec-18 02:54 PM

just make an issue and oy will hotfix it

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 02:54 PM

oy? xd k

Dune 13-Dec-18 02:54 PM

takes 30s

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 02:56 PM

@Dune why the text has this weird shadowing?

did 0.6 had it?

i dont use vanilla client since ages

Dune 13-Dec-18 02:56 PM

@LordSk's PR

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 02:58 PM

u mean this? https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1773

This should allow Teeworlds to start in high-dpi mode if available. Unfortunately I don't own a high-dpi monitor so I can't test it myself. @oy there is also a small fix in there, width bei...

i mean the in game chat text

Dune 13-Dec-18 02:58 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr++chat++author%3ALordSk

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_settings

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:00 PM

hmm it feels rly weird for me

and looks older

idk

why not make it flat

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:00 PM

try to enable AA if not done already

4x looks much better already imo

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:01 PM

hmm @Dune i try to set aa to 16x i restart and it gets back to 8x

bug?

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:02 PM

weird

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:02 PM

but AA has nothing to do with this, i mean the chat having a shadow feels weird to me

its not "flat"

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:02 PM

it stays at 16x for me

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:03 PM

The change was made to improve readability

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:03 PM

weird

it goes back to 8x

i dont like it @LordSk :/

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:03 PM

it goes back to 8x if it can't start with 16x

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:03 PM

why it cant

my pc is more than powerfull

im playing the witcher 3 at ultra on 60 fps xD

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:03 PM

that would be a bug then

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:04 PM

1300 fps on 8x

altho i dont feel

any diference with aa

idk

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:04 PM

you can limit fps to something sane with gfx_limitfps :)

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:05 PM

the new skin customization is nice, but why did you change the body position?

it feels like body is more to the right

than before

here u can see some bugs on dm1

floating things

doodads

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:07 PM

what server are you on @Ryozuki ?

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:07 PM

localhost

im making a mod, but i didnt change naything yet

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:07 PM

you need to update maps

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:07 PM

hm

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:07 PM

how did you download your server+maps?

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:07 PM

client from tw

server i compiled myself

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:08 PM

where are maps from then?

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:08 PM

@Dune is it possible that old maps from .teeworlds/ are being used?

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:08 PM

if you copied them from 0.6 it does this

it is, but it uses the maps in data/maps in priority (edited)

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:09 PM

oh

i may have to update the git submodule for maps (edited)

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:09 PM

yep :)

git submodule update --remote

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:10 PM

git submodule update --init --recursive if you didn't donwload submodule before

git submodule update --remote will do nothing

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:10 PM

i have downloaded them before

7fefdb4c643f4e623f179460b8e68cd51f4d5e9d datasrc/maps (heads/master)

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:13 PM

that is the last version

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:15 PM

hmhmh

i still see it bugged

can someone check if they have the same

Attachment: dm1.map (6.63 KB)

OH

it works now

magic

or maybe some cache? idk

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:17 PM

who knows

maybe, you had old mapreses

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:17 PM

^

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:17 PM

i deleted whole data dir

and cmake regenrated them

so idk why

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

Are you using cmake?

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

ah well, when you do a git submodule update, it only updates in datasrc, you have to compile for the data to get in build/data

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

i fixed it formyself xd

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

Can you tell me, if you have the same netversion as a

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

linux only tho

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

master-server?

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

no

i hacked it

#define GAME_NETVERSION "0.7 802f1be60a05665f" // GAME_NETVERSION_HASH

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

Like, you pasted

I know, but it's kinda hacky

xD

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

the current cmake PR needs a hack to work yeah

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

well xD

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

it can be fixed

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

But, i like cmake

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

me too

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:18 PM

i can debug via visual studio 2017

and do more stuff (edited)

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:19 PM

:P i use clion

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:19 PM

I would like to

But, it makes additional costs

and I don't earn money from coding in cPP

only phpstorm lol

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:19 PM

i dont earn money coding anything.. sadly

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:20 PM

anyway. CMake makes everything much easier

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:20 PM

xD

Savander 13-Dec-18 03:20 PM

Now i can follow the code, how everything is "working"

but, I have troubles with UI

don't understand, how it works lol

That part is hard to figure out for me, whole frontend

xD

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:25 PM

oh

broadcast is displayed at bottom

thats weird xD

how the color system works?

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:25 PM

^RGB R,G,B can be 0-9

^900 is red, ^999 is white

we should probably post this somewhere

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Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:26 PM

hmm

very limited

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:27 PM

how so?

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:27 PM

1000 colors

I think it's ok?

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:27 PM

tw always thinking small..

u can easily have 16million colors using a proper format

html-like hex forexample

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:28 PM

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:28 PM

I think 1000 is enough for something like broadcast, and it's user-friendly

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:29 PM

why is broadcast down btw

when i tried

i didnt even see it never expected it to be bottom

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:29 PM

overlaps less with client info :)

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:29 PM

since when a announcement is not on top

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:29 PM

there are server announcements on top too.

those are language localized

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:30 PM

you can show cusotm announcementso n top with code?

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:30 PM

no

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:30 PM

see

Dune 13-Dec-18 03:30 PM

top = built-in, localized announcements bottom = custom broadcasts

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:30 PM

I think the idea was to separate official statements from user-created ones

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:31 PM

yeah oficial statements for oficial gamemodes

tw always so unmod friendly

i had hopes on 0.7

sad

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:31 PM

we're still moving in the right direction

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:32 PM

why º opens console

very annoying

i cant type \ on rcon due to that

and i cant unbind it from what i tried

@LordSk has smooth scrolling on menus been discussed?

it would feel more natural

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:36 PM

UI needs a lot of work

Ryozuki 13-Dec-18 03:36 PM

and scrollbar shows even when there is nothing to scroll

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:36 PM

I'm not sure if smooth scrolling has been mentioned before

teini94 13-Dec-18 03:54 PM

can I post my ideas and feedback here?

LordSk 13-Dec-18 03:59 PM

sure @teini94 go ahead

teini94 13-Dec-18 04:00 PM

it may could help but if its not what u want just ignore it only some ideas

1. f1 refresh_rate was a good option -> ik some people who gave up on trying to connect to servers in 0.7 cause it was so slow to load servers 2. gamer hud? 3. you should enable that you can keep automatically hooking or walking (if u press chat or 2 times f1 or ESC) like in all other clients 4. pls upgrade your cool statsboard with fpm frags per minute* 5. more sound options like change chatsounds or mute it. & ingame or gun or hammer sounds. 6. make it possible to add friends in browserlist by clicking on them 7. make higher number on favourite servers & friends (already done?) 8. someone said feeds should be centered in the middle like it was before? 9. dont disable chat when u are in options & such. 10. wisper system is fine but you should make it so you can sort it on alphabeat. like if u press D then it only shows names with D (else it would be super annoying with 64 players) 11. enable zoom for specatators & in race mods & ddr 12. set specatators afk_kick_time to 0 by default 13. add options to change gametiles in options. (14. add hookline?) 15. -> (not only me other people gave up cause of that to play tw.) had insane problems with steam tw (avira detected it and such) then after some trying to make it possible to start tw with avira activated. my tw steam download went insane and trying to download tw.exe but steam says now "content data is locked" - Then tried deinstall too but did not work either. - I tried to push my 0.7.1 .exe into the steam tw folder but I dont have the permission it said. so cant play tw via steam on 0.7 anymore*

16. & idk if it was cause of the mod but I could not spectate as I was in a game or change team* 17.(ingame browser)

Dune 13-Dec-18 04:03 PM

devs check out and discuss ideas on the official forums and on github. that's what they're for, can't scroll week-old chat logs

teini94 13-Dec-18 04:04 PM

so just ignorei t

Dune 13-Dec-18 04:04 PM

ok

LordSk 13-Dec-18 04:05 PM

about your steam issue, it looks like your antivirus is causing it

so we can't help much unfortunately

Dune 13-Dec-18 04:06 PM

I have avira too, it's shit nowadays. only avira does this afaik

teini94 13-Dec-18 04:08 PM

well I disabled it* but the problem is now that if I download the exe it does not set it into the same folder* anymore cause its blocked? it creates a own tw folder

Dune 13-Dec-18 04:09 PM

yeah, it's shit

you have to whitelist tw

Savander 13-Dec-18 04:09 PM

or whitleist

whole steam folder

Dune 13-Dec-18 04:09 PM

even then avira is buggy

i had to restart PC

teini94 13-Dec-18 04:09 PM

ye did it I think but thx anyway I guess only I have that flipped out problem*

The Pro '' 14-Dec-18 02:34 AM

How can I change the server difficulty

whats the command

Dune 14-Dec-18 08:25 AM

sv_skill_level 0, 1, 2

Cadillaxx 14-Dec-18 10:27 AM

Joined the server.

Ryozuki 14-Dec-18 12:27 PM

is it possible to tell the client a custom ninja time for the bar that indicates the remaining time? i guess not since this is teeworlds...

class Weapon_Ninja(Struct): def __init__(self): Struct.__init__(self, "CDataWeaponspecNinja") self.base = Pointer(WeaponSpec, WeaponSpec()) self.duration = Int(15000) self.movetime = Int(200) self.velocity = Int(50)

oh surprise, its hardcoded..

Dune 14-Dec-18 12:34 PM

? that is not even the code of the ninja bar

that is the code of the weapon properties, that is there since the weapon exists

Ryozuki 14-Dec-18 12:34 PM

yeah, the ninja bar uses the duration from this

Dune 14-Dec-18 12:34 PM

obviously, yes

Ryozuki 14-Dec-18 12:35 PM

hardcoded

Dune 14-Dec-18 12:35 PM

that's the simplest way. if you want it differently, code it differently

Ryozuki 14-Dec-18 12:36 PM

???

i have n oway to make that bar duration custom

i cant code it "differently"

Dune 14-Dec-18 12:40 PM

So you want it to be a server tuning? Sure, why not :)

Feel free to survey mods and compile a list of tunings if you want to change it

Ryozuki 14-Dec-18 12:41 PM

i just want the ability to give it a custom duration

from server code

Dune 14-Dec-18 12:42 PM

a server tuning

Ryozuki 14-Dec-18 12:42 PM

if its that yes

is a server tuning static for the whole game?

Dune 14-Dec-18 12:42 PM

no

Good quality posts will trigger good discussions on GitHub. If you want something to be done, survey other's needs, compile that in a good post, and it will be a good contribution.

Ryozuki 14-Dec-18 12:45 PM

yeah im not good at those things

will see..

☫σяεσ 14-Dec-18 03:59 PM

Joined the server.

Slayer *gV* 14-Dec-18 04:15 PM

I need a nice artwork for my iVampire mod. Would anyone like to? https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8062 Initially, I think of two vampire tee fighting another .

[MOD] iVampire (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

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ksreal 14-Dec-18 04:58 PM

Joined the server.

Any reason why i have 200 ping in all servers?

Dune 14-Dec-18 05:04 PM

strange

is it 200 in-game too @ksreal

ksreal 14-Dec-18 05:05 PM

Only 200 ping in all teeworlds servers.

Dune 14-Dec-18 05:07 PM

I mean, where does it say 200, on the server browser or ingame (scoreboard)

those are different "ping", even if they share the name (edited)

ksreal 14-Dec-18 05:09 PM

Ingame on server info it says ping 0 but has 3 second delay on attacking.

Dune 14-Dec-18 05:12 PM

ping 0? you're sure it's not the score?

well, it looks like something makes your connection laggy

ksreal 14-Dec-18 05:17 PM

Dune 14-Dec-18 05:17 PM

huh

what does f1->ping give you

ksreal 14-Dec-18 05:18 PM

I can spectate people just fine but when i try playing my ping is bad.

Dune 14-Dec-18 05:21 PM

hmm

so I would say it looks like your upload network is fucked up

ksreal 14-Dec-18 05:24 PM

Well atleast i can spectate ppl lol

Dune 14-Dec-18 05:29 PM

Have you tried 0.6?

I mean, is this an issue that happened when you upgraded?

I haven't heard of such a bug but still

ksreal 14-Dec-18 05:56 PM

No delay on 0.6

leucovorin 14-Dec-18 08:08 PM

Joined the server.

hello

why 0.7.1 is so useless?

There are no good servers!!! only dm and ctf!!! That is why I uninstalled

That's not da wae

Dune 14-Dec-18 08:15 PM

It was released 2 days ago. People have to port mods you know, it's not automatic. (edited)

Fisico 14-Dec-18 08:20 PM

hi dune

whats up with the 64/2 pure servers?

Dune 14-Dec-18 08:57 PM

lying servers, @Fisico, they're on queue for a ban

Fisico 14-Dec-18 08:57 PM

ok

Dune 14-Dec-18 08:57 PM

I don't have access to that

WsY[FU]? 14-Dec-18 11:23 PM

Uh, so my server was lying too?(i tried hosting earlier and got 64/8) (edited)

Pure server just out of the zip

Dune 14-Dec-18 11:41 PM

oh, really? weird @WsY[FU]?

you're sure it was yours?

PlayerException 14-Dec-18 11:42 PM

@Dune How can i create colored broadcast?

LordSk 14-Dec-18 11:42 PM

PlayerException 14-Dec-18 11:42 PM

Thanks

LordSk 14-Dec-18 11:42 PM

Dune 14-Dec-18 11:43 PM

@WsY[FU]? what was the name of your server

Napsu 15-Dec-18 07:42 AM

Joined the server.

Hello

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 09:20 AM

It was not banned i shutdown it myself @Dune

I just casually tried to host a server, to check settings and variables in-game

And it came out with fake players on start

I'll recreate

Just downloaded both win packages from the site, same problem with each

Dune 15-Dec-18 09:54 AM

@WsY[FU]? wswhat is your config

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 09:54 AM

i didn't setup autoexec

Dune 15-Dec-18 10:17 AM

Strange. You downloaded from teeworlds.com? What is your system?

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 10:24 AM

win7 x64

Dune 15-Dec-18 10:43 AM

so the teeworlds.com zip?

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 10:53 AM

Yes, @Dune

release candidat works just fine

Dune 15-Dec-18 10:53 AM

alright, thanks @WsY[FU]?

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 10:54 AM

Oh, by the way, it's the same with sv_register 0, so it's definitly a server-side

Dune 15-Dec-18 10:54 AM

I see, thanks :)

very strange

I can confirm it does that, @WsY[FU]?. Having any autoexec.cfg seems to fix it. Sorry

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 10:58 AM

Can you send me your config, please?

Dune 15-Dec-18 10:59 AM

still need to confirm that though. it may be that is some sort of release build that got mixed up

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 10:59 AM

Alright

Dune 15-Dec-18 10:59 AM

hold on a min

damn, my config fails

let me check with win32

Dune 15-Dec-18 11:09 AM

@WsY[FU]? alright, the windows server released was messed up and we included a test version. Much sorry for that

Building from source gives you the right version

Hopefully we can fix that very soon

Meanwhile I can provide a working teeworlds_srv.exe if you like

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 11:10 AM

Alright, thanks, i suppose you, guys, should later unban those who had the same issue

Dune 15-Dec-18 11:10 AM

We didn't actually ban anyone

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 11:10 AM

I will compile it myself, thanks

Dune 15-Dec-18 11:10 AM

(afaik)

Okay, glad to hear :)

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 11:10 AM

Dune 15-Dec-18 12:47 PM

@WsY[FU]? The downloads on github and https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=downloads were fixed

Thank you for the very helpful report :)

WsY[FU]? 15-Dec-18 12:50 PM

Great, was glad to help you, guys

magnet 15-Dec-18 02:23 PM

Joined the server.

slinacK 15-Dec-18 03:56 PM

so you can't change skins ingame anymore?

Dune 15-Dec-18 04:00 PM

that's right, no player info change (edited)

slinacK 15-Dec-18 04:00 PM

it won't keep abusers from doing anything though

just regular players having to disconnect

Dune 15-Dec-18 04:01 PM

I think it's supposed to help with rainbow-ish skins

slinacK 15-Dec-18 04:01 PM

but eh, what is done is done

Dune 15-Dec-18 04:01 PM

I'm not a big fan of that either, slinacK

slinacK 15-Dec-18 04:01 PM

unless you can't really change anything once you are ingame?

Dune 15-Dec-18 04:01 PM

you can't change name or skin, yes

I don't see how it can be abused now

slinacK 15-Dec-18 04:01 PM

oh

then it's a pity, but for a reason

i thought it was GUI only

My game got stuck (unresponsive to mouse/keyboard input) like 4 times now

Menu music keeps playing, but I can't get anything to work. Not even local console

It happened even when I just launched the game and waited a few seconds without clicking anywhere

ubuntu14 but maybe the reason is on my side somehow

LordSk 15-Dec-18 04:16 PM

@slinacK If you can reproduce it consistently, post the bug

slinacK 15-Dec-18 05:17 PM

heh that's the hard part. it just happens

also other stuff

^ this window is still responsive though (edited)

i kinda like the dark theme

Dune 15-Dec-18 06:04 PM

Did you mess with the data slinack?

Teeworlds 0.7 needs to not be mixed with a 0.6 folder

@slinacK

It looks like you are missing data/ui/themes

slinacK 15-Dec-18 06:10 PM

No, it's a fresh 0.7 install. I didn't have teeworlds here before.

Also, theme works just fine when I launch

Then at some point it simply crashes

Dune 15-Dec-18 06:13 PM

Huh, i see

Log says anything ?

LordSk 15-Dec-18 06:33 PM

looks like the screen is not clearing properly too

Dune 15-Dec-18 06:50 PM

@LordSk this happens when no map is rendered, that's why I thought he has no themes :|

LordSk 15-Dec-18 06:51 PM

yeah that could be the case

MertenNor 15-Dec-18 07:59 PM

@LordSk Nice Graphics on the instagib mod

LordSk 15-Dec-18 07:59 PM

thanks

Dune 15-Dec-18 08:00 PM

Thanks for the release :) https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122175

MertenNor 15-Dec-18 08:14 PM

@LordSk Compiled server under Arm v7 Raspbery pi 3 works fine

LordSk 15-Dec-18 08:14 PM

oh nice

PlayerException 15-Dec-18 08:38 PM

Hi, why the sv_motd dont show up when i joined to the server?

Dune 15-Dec-18 08:40 PM

huh

it's true, it doesn't show up

it used to show up too early

PlayerException 15-Dec-18 08:49 PM

On [Devhub] server shows up

Dune 15-Dec-18 09:21 PM

thanks, will check out, @PlayerException

PlayerException 15-Dec-18 09:39 PM

ok, thanks.

LordSk 15-Dec-18 10:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaQY7wGBtyc

LordSk

Teeworlds back to back shields

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TuanBaoDoratom 16-Dec-18 01:27 PM

Joined the server.

magnet 16-Dec-18 02:41 PM

@Dune can you give me perm to write on the bridge chan?

Dune 16-Dec-18 02:42 PM

sorry, forgot @magnet

magnet 16-Dec-18 02:42 PM

hm?

Dune 16-Dec-18 02:43 PM

I forgot. it's done now

magnet 16-Dec-18 02:43 PM

ty

teddi 16-Dec-18 03:24 PM

Joined the server.

leroy 16-Dec-18 05:18 PM

Joined the server.

The Pro '' 16-Dec-18 05:22 PM

I also don't like the change that names and skins can't be changed ingame

ot cpnfuses so so many people

Dune 16-Dec-18 06:02 PM

that's a good point, I think menus need to be restored ingame

Zargon 16-Dec-18 06:12 PM

Yes pls

Dune 16-Dec-18 06:17 PM

might want to make a case on github :)

jao 16-Dec-18 06:19 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1539

Info change · Issue #1539 · teeworlds/teeworlds

why did you remove info change while ingame? at least make it so you can activate it serverside using the code. imo its useless to remove that feature.

its here

Dune 16-Dec-18 06:24 PM

no, that's different, @jao, that's the protocol

the menus could be back, without changing the protocol

it still doesn't allow for instant skin change, but you can then reload the server/change map and have the changes applied

going all the way back to the start menus is cumbersome

jao 16-Dec-18 06:30 PM

ah

Dune 16-Dec-18 10:35 PM

https://streamable.com/o64u3

twshield2_2 - Streamable

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o/

ksreal 17-Dec-18 12:52 AM

Why is the player count so low now 39 servers 6 players

Fudgy 17-Dec-18 01:28 AM

because everyone still plays 0.6 mostly

Dune 17-Dec-18 07:54 AM

it's always like that with major versions

Slayer *gV* 17-Dec-18 10:25 AM

@MertenNor What is the performance like on Raspi 3? And what are the steps to reproduce? (edited)

MertenNor 17-Dec-18 10:28 AM

@Slayer *gV* works just fine.. But only running one server at the moment I installed rasbian and then disabled the GUI. After that you can just follow the steps on how to compile teeworlds under Linux

At work right now btw

Slayer *gV* 17-Dec-18 10:42 AM

Yeah cool, if noone is playing it uses no resources

WsY[FU]? 17-Dec-18 04:16 PM

Why possibility of changing playerinfo in game (skins, etc) was removed?

Dune 17-Dec-18 04:19 PM

abuses, @WsY[FU]?

WsY[FU]? 17-Dec-18 04:20 PM

Could you please elaborate on that point, @Dune I can't imagine someone abusing it

Dune 17-Dec-18 04:21 PM

From what I know, 1) skins often changing colors very often, being annoying, 2) players constantly renaming themselves, being annoying and hard to identificate as well - both scripted, probably

For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of that fix - although I think not changing names during a game is reasonable, names should be identities.

WsY[FU]? 17-Dec-18 04:24 PM

Name changes leave system messages in chat

And afterall, if someone is being annyoing, we have a votekick for a reason

And isn't having 2 players with identical nicknames on a server is more annoying?

Dune 17-Dec-18 04:26 PM

IDs are there to disambiguate that

I think part of the idea was that the chat should be optional (ability to turn off social)

WsY[FU]? 17-Dec-18 04:28 PM

Is that fix going to stay for good?

Dune 17-Dec-18 04:30 PM

As said earlier, I would like to discuss restoring the ingame UI for that - but changing names on the fly will require a protocol change

WsY[FU]? 17-Dec-18 04:32 PM

I see

noby 17-Dec-18 04:34 PM

9:21 AM] Dune: From what I know, 1) skins often changing colors very often, being annoying, 2) players constantly renaming themselves, being annoying and hard to identificate as well - both scripted, probably almost every server ive seen has some kindof info rate limit so people cant change name etc more than once per 5-10sec so these things dont really seem worth removing namechange for

Dune 17-Dec-18 04:35 PM

@noby I kinda agree. That change was done years ago iirc.

noby 17-Dec-18 04:35 PM

and if thats too often it can be inceased more in f2

Dune 17-Dec-18 04:38 PM

yeah, those changes were made 6 years ago :/

WsY[FU]? 17-Dec-18 04:41 PM

Probably looked good on paper

Ryozuki 17-Dec-18 07:35 PM

if its a modded server u can enable changing skin?

otherwise rip mods like infection

LordSk 17-Dec-18 07:48 PM

@Ryozuki you can

redix 17-Dec-18 08:54 PM

but not for the local character =\ you need to send a clientdrop before you can set new clientinfo but clientdrop does not work for the local character

LordSk 17-Dec-18 08:55 PM

yeah that's true I forgot about that

teini94 17-Dec-18 09:09 PM

disable v-sync by defautl so a lot more players have no mouse problems anymore.

WaRNe0nx3 18-Dec-18 02:55 AM

Joined the server.

ChillerDragon 18-Dec-18 04:22 AM

dfq? xd http://www.inqontrol.de

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122229

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

The Pro '' 18-Dec-18 12:48 PM

I want all people to quickly download the new version

So there are more opponents

WsY[FU]? 18-Dec-18 03:51 PM

To whoever is developping gamemode named CQ

Great work

I always felt like something like this mode would fit vanilla

Zatline 18-Dec-18 04:08 PM

I agree Conquest has also been on my mind for several years we gotta get that vanilla

ChillerDragon 18-Dec-18 05:22 PM

Oh lol i don't even know CQ o.O what is it? where can i play it? why do i not know it? Ah and you are in this discord hehe hi @The Pro '' what is your ingame name? (edited)

The Pro '' 18-Dec-18 07:03 PM

inQontroL The Pro '' @ChillerDragon

Dune 18-Dec-18 10:46 PM

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This colored broadcast feature is so useful :D

jao 18-Dec-18 11:31 PM

cool

is it race?

Dune 19-Dec-18 12:24 AM

Yes

Fudgy 19-Dec-18 12:48 AM

nice

checkpoint diff

Dune 19-Dec-18 12:50 AM

it used to be a clientside feature

from the teerace mod

Savander 19-Dec-18 12:53 AM

it's great. You can adjust size of text as well?

jao 19-Dec-18 12:54 AM

looks a bit confusing with the 2 timers

Fudgy 19-Dec-18 12:56 AM

oh so that means that its not possible to hide ONLY the diff?

Dune 19-Dec-18 12:56 AM

https://i.imgur.com/LQ0iZjb.gif

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yeay

back at working on the official's issues :P (edited)

@Fudgy it's a whole broadcast, I don't see why you'd be able to hide part of it :/

redix 19-Dec-18 12:58 AM

it's only displayed for 2 secs

Fudgy 19-Dec-18 12:58 AM

thats why I said its not possible

but I like to see my current time without checkpoint diff

anyway not a big deal

redix 19-Dec-18 12:58 AM

i could add a command to toggle it (edited)

Fudgy 19-Dec-18 12:59 AM

right

chat command tho

redix 19-Dec-18 12:59 AM

yep

Fudgy 19-Dec-18 01:00 AM

or ghetto code to detect when a broadcast is a cp diff and hide it xd

Savander 19-Dec-18 01:06 AM

Definitely option from ddrace, to hide people. It would be nightmare, if 64p

will be shown on start

Fudgy 19-Dec-18 01:07 AM

from race*

redix 19-Dec-18 01:07 AM

already works

Savander 19-Dec-18 01:07 AM

oh okay

thought it was from ddrace

ugh. /help

no /cmdlist

XD

redix 19-Dec-18 01:18 AM

gonna change that

Savander 19-Dec-18 01:19 AM

I think, spectator should see time, of spectated guy.

(the scoreboard one)

Fudgy 19-Dec-18 01:43 AM

is there a way to just put a png image as a theme for the ui?

in data/ui/themes

Savander 19-Dec-18 01:50 AM

Show socials, doens't hide too much?

if disabled?

If someone joins, i don't see nickname, just id:<blank>

if someone is killed, i see only avatar, without name

Dune 19-Dec-18 10:13 AM

Yeah. It reduces social stuff yo the minimum you need to identify players

@Fudgy Fudgymake a map that is covered by that png

Savander 19-Dec-18 12:11 PM

It looks like a bug. At least, there shouldnt be any messages on chat.

Dune 19-Dec-18 01:04 PM

There are chat messages ?

Savander 19-Dec-18 01:06 PM

Yes

Not like from players. But from server

Like Someone with ID joined. Without name

Sonix 19-Dec-18 01:07 PM

@Dune shield looks great

Dune 19-Dec-18 01:07 PM

It does, you can tell @LordSk :)

Sonix 19-Dec-18 01:08 PM

Nice work

Slayer *gV* 19-Dec-18 03:14 PM

@Dune So, the reworked instashield shield is only available for or by using your gamer client? Or is the improved variant available for vanilla clients too? What would be the difference to the gamer client shield then? (edited)

Fudgy 19-Dec-18 05:27 PM

Vanilla still shows the normal shield pickups

Showing the new shield is client side pretty sure so only gamer client shows them like that

Dune 19-Dec-18 05:31 PM

@Slayer *gV* I only added some cosmetics on the client side, the instagib server mod exists independently of the gamer client

In fact, I have a branch with only the shield change, if anyone wants a patch

Slayer *gV* 19-Dec-18 05:34 PM

Was just confused that you posted a video of it in the instashield thread.

Dune 19-Dec-18 05:39 PM

Ah, well I'm not the author of the server mod ^^

krooked 19-Dec-18 05:55 PM

Joined the server.

Rilla 20-Dec-18 03:26 AM

Joined the server.

Voideroid 20-Dec-18 04:06 AM

ShootXen 20-Dec-18 07:03 AM

was this intended with "schwie-rig-keit" ? (edited)

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Nesca 20-Dec-18 07:11 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 20-Dec-18 09:33 AM

@ShootXen unless there was a bug with the export, you can fix it by yourself on transifex

MertenNor 20-Dec-18 11:41 AM

Anyone have ctf4_old ? On my phone so not that easy to find the 0,7 version

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magnet 20-Dec-18 12:12 PM

Lol dune killing sprees aren't rare in vanilla, at least not for me

ChillerDragon 20-Dec-18 12:32 PM

Hehe @magnet showoff. But yy i agree

Blink 20-Dec-18 04:39 PM

Joined the server.

louis (old acc) 20-Dec-18 09:59 PM

no u

Fisico 20-Dec-18 10:38 PM

@Dune it is correct in the translation file.. i already reported that to you a while ago.. you don't remember?

Dune 20-Dec-18 10:41 PM

I remember something vaguely

Ryozuki 21-Dec-18 01:09 AM

greeny 21-Dec-18 01:09 AM

good timing

i only just hoppped on

☫σяεσ 21-Dec-18 01:10 AM

no we all play tw and nothing else (edited)

Zatline 21-Dec-18 01:10 AM

u from europe wanna join need one more ^^

Dune 21-Dec-18 01:10 AM

No @ everyone for that please, @Zatline

Zatline 21-Dec-18 01:10 AM

kk sry sir

@Dune u play pubg?

Dune 21-Dec-18 01:11 AM

no

@ everyone is now disabled

Gwendal 21-Dec-18 01:15 AM

teini94 21-Dec-18 01:20 AM

Attachment: ctf4_old_0.7_normal_version.map (571.78 KB)

WaRNe0nx3 21-Dec-18 05:54 AM

I just looked into the mapres in 0.7 and found some bugs, some are minor, some not. I made a gallery on imgur: https://imgur.com/a/dQRWfrd

tileset oopsi

twiNk 21-Dec-18 08:52 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 21-Dec-18 09:04 AM

that's quite some careful work, @WaRNe0nx3. would you like to post it on https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/new?

Build software better, together

GitHub is where people build software. More than 28 million people use GitHub to discover, fork, and contribute to over 85 million projects.

This way our artists will see it in time :)

WaRNe0nx3 21-Dec-18 01:00 PM

ye sure

android272 21-Dec-18 01:42 PM

Nice catch @WaRNe0nx3! @Zatline and I will get to work fixing these. Let us know if you see anything else.

Dune 21-Dec-18 01:59 PM

Thank you for your help @WaRNe0nx3

WaRNe0nx3 21-Dec-18 01:59 PM

no problem

sinety 21-Dec-18 09:44 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 21-Dec-18 09:47 PM

Joined the server.

Yay!

Dune 21-Dec-18 10:12 PM

welcome, @Deleted User

Deleted User 21-Dec-18 10:23 PM

Its me, sertroses

from the game ya played c:

Dune 21-Dec-18 10:53 PM

I guessed

The Pro '' 22-Dec-18 12:39 AM

The correct spelling is "Schwierigkeit"

Shadowsx9 22-Dec-18 09:39 PM

Joined the server.

MertenNor 23-Dec-18 10:02 PM

@android272 did you end up making that Oddball mode?

android272 23-Dec-18 10:21 PM

No, I am working on a different mod. Plus I think there is a mod put there called hold the flag that plays the same way.

MertenNor 23-Dec-18 10:28 PM

@android272 oh yeah.. hold the flag I remember that one from back in the day

plays the same way

what are you working on?

here is a suggestion @Dune https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122269#p122269

android272 23-Dec-18 10:51 PM

It is not really ready to talk about yet. But is not really a mod to be played but to show off a new feature.

MertenNor 23-Dec-18 10:53 PM

@android272 interesting

teetow 24-Dec-18 12:18 AM

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jao 24-Dec-18 03:54 PM

@ChillerDragon I told you stay away from girls

ChillerDragon 24-Dec-18 03:54 PM

xxxxD

Patiga 24-Dec-18 04:11 PM

Joined the server.

EddY 24-Dec-18 05:00 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 25-Dec-18 01:34 AM

0.7.2 - Christmas special release is out! A colorful menu browser, demo marker indicators, 0.6 mouse input, many fixes and a surprise from the Santa Tee, limited in time! Enjoy it and merry christmas! News: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122289 Downloads: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=downloads&id=12639 Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/380840/Teeworlds/ Full changelog: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal @everyone

https://youtu.be/EUN-SNaccbE?t=368

Play together with your friends and have a fun time! In Teeworlds you can play in three gamemodes (Deathmatch, Team-Deathmatch and Capture The Flag) and tons more of community-made modifications with up to 16 players!Customize your own player character, your personal tee, to ...

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ReiTW 25-Dec-18 01:37 AM

following santa on google map

Dune 25-Dec-18 01:39 AM

Santa just came in Teeworlds, so it must be somewhere in the Mediterranean :D

Slayer *gV* 25-Dec-18 09:00 AM

@magnet Just realized that you sent me a PM on teeworlds.com months ago. Oops!

(But this bold notification icon is honestly barely noticeable)

guenstig werben 25-Dec-18 02:31 PM

Yeah, a seperate banner if you got an unread pm would be awesome

Zargon 26-Dec-18 01:21 AM

Can we have an option to be able to see the old "x left/joined the server"? I miss those

Dune 26-Dec-18 01:38 AM

@Zargon what do you mean? they are still there

Sonix 26-Dec-18 11:57 AM

not for spectators i think

Dune 26-Dec-18 12:02 PM

That's right, specs are the exception

Zargon 26-Dec-18 12:03 PM

Like, when I'm playing the only server messages that appear are when people join the game from the spectators, or if they join the spectators from either red or blue team. What I don't see is when people join and are automatically put to specs, or when they actually leave the server

Dune 26-Dec-18 12:04 PM

Join messages are still there, just not for specs

If you set up your server to put players in spec automatically, you won't see any

Zargon 26-Dec-18 12:05 PM

Same goes for a spectator leaving the server?

I liked those, at least to keep track of who was in the lobby without having to press tab :c

Dune 26-Dec-18 12:22 PM

Yeah, I agree

Sonix 26-Dec-18 12:51 PM

@Zatline I've added some ideas/skins of mine to the skins svg file, make sure to check em out

magnet 26-Dec-18 01:28 PM

We need different message types so there can be clientside filtering as well.

(and translations)

Zatline 26-Dec-18 03:15 PM

@Sonix check pm

HI 26-Dec-18 04:05 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 26-Dec-18 07:51 PM

work in progress

2

:D

sinety 26-Dec-18 08:12 PM

whats that

ChillerDragon 26-Dec-18 08:12 PM

looks like ctf2

sinety 26-Dec-18 08:12 PM

ouhh

youre right

ctf2 now without feeling cold?

jao 26-Dec-18 08:36 PM

messed up ctf2

Dune 26-Dec-18 08:40 PM

good catch @ChillerDragon

this is a real-time automapper :D

inversely, you could put a christmas theme on every map

sinety 26-Dec-18 08:57 PM

oh wat

when will there be in editor map testing?

Dune 26-Dec-18 08:59 PM

without leaving the editor? that doesn't sound very doable

sinety 26-Dec-18 08:59 PM

sad

^^

i like the automapper though

Dune 26-Dec-18 09:00 PM

do you have an example of game with that feature?

sinety 26-Dec-18 09:00 PM

reflex

i think

Dune 26-Dec-18 09:00 PM

thank 2011's @LordSk :D

sinety 26-Dec-18 09:01 PM

Duke Ex

Reflex Map Editor Tutorial

How to design a competitive duel map in reflex: http://polyculture.co/polyculture/cdg/ Everything you need to know to get you started with reflex's map editor.

dont know any other actual games like that though

Dune 26-Dec-18 09:02 PM

probably because it's usually not doable

sinety 26-Dec-18 09:02 PM

yeah

its just such an amazing feature

makes playtesting very easy and fast

heinrich5991 26-Dec-18 09:32 PM

sauerbraten also has an ingame map editor IIRC

Savander 26-Dec-18 09:39 PM

acutally, minecraft is quite big

map editor

:v

sinety 26-Dec-18 09:40 PM

just take minecraft (edited)

and squish it to 2d

Savander 26-Dec-18 09:40 PM

terraria

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sinety 26-Dec-18 09:41 PM

just take terraria

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Savander 26-Dec-18 09:52 PM

I saw live teeworlds map editing

on teeworlds forum once

you had like 2 clients opened, one client placed blocks, and on the second client, the map immediately updated.

sinety 26-Dec-18 09:56 PM

witchcraft

Dune 26-Dec-18 10:02 PM

huh, I have no memories of that

must be long ago :)

teini94 26-Dec-18 10:31 PM

I have a dream!

☫σяεσ 27-Dec-18 04:36 AM

would be great if u could click on a "test" button or whatever and jump fast into the map to see what it looks like in game, and jump back (leave the map) by opening the editor back up.

ChillerDragon 27-Dec-18 07:41 AM

was by unsigned char*

i saw a video once where he had his mobile map editor on this tablet open and editing a map while you could see on a screen in the backrgound that the effect was instant ingame.

you know the minetee and hclient gui

Tetsuga 27-Dec-18 01:13 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 27-Dec-18 05:04 PM

https://i.imgur.com/OIB2JLF.gif

heinrich5991 27-Dec-18 06:16 PM

nice. automapper?

Dune 27-Dec-18 06:19 PM

yes, real-time @heinrich5991

you can actually call the automapper for each frame and it doesn't lag :D I do save the map anyway though

NoTeefy 27-Dec-18 06:24 PM

Joined the server.

Heyho

Dune 27-Dec-18 06:26 PM

Hey @NoTeefy :)

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LordSk 27-Dec-18 06:39 PM

Zomb 3.0 is out: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122313#p122313

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2

Sonix 27-Dec-18 06:41 PM

HYPE

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jao 27-Dec-18 07:02 PM

@Dune why does your automapper use 0.6 grass main

Sonix 27-Dec-18 07:08 PM

the automapper rules aren't updated i guess

Dune 27-Dec-18 09:14 PM

@jao does it? it does not change dm1

jao 27-Dec-18 09:16 PM

@Dune I guess the rules aren't updated

doesn't seem to use 1x1 tiles

Dune 27-Dec-18 09:17 PM

ah, yeah it doesn't use new 1x1 tiles :( shouldn't be too hard to update the rules

it uses those in data/editor/automap if anyone wants to mess around :)

jao 27-Dec-18 09:18 PM

idk I have them for 0.6 but I guess it's a different format

Dune 27-Dec-18 09:20 PM

look in your data/editor/automap folder. Oy's format isn't too hard to edit

not sure what kind of GUI help could be made

Dune 27-Dec-18 09:32 PM

I'll make a tutorial

NoTeefy 27-Dec-18 09:39 PM

Did I miss something about the bindaddr var?

I can't bind my server to an address even though the port's open and free to use

Or am I forced to provide both ipv4 and ipv6 now?

okay... I'm apparently just dumb. It seems to work but that message still shows up on the current github build

o.O

[5c2538cb][net]: failed to bind socket with domain 10 and type 2 (99 'Cannot assign requested address') that might be a bug

jao 27-Dec-18 09:43 PM

@Dune so only the format changed? everything else the same?

Dune 27-Dec-18 09:43 PM

yes

Dune 27-Dec-18 11:18 PM

0.7 Automapper tutorial: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122323

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WaRNe0nx3 28-Dec-18 04:37 AM

hi @LordSk , will there be a hprace mod for 0.7?

toast.tw 28-Dec-18 01:55 PM

Joined the server.

Slayer *gV* 28-Dec-18 02:03 PM

@magnet In case you are still interested in the streamer mod used for the Teeworlds Tournaments. There it is: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122331#p122331

Sonix 28-Dec-18 02:22 PM

ah about that @Slayer *gV* , ghost contacted some time ago and gave us access to the source and the we improved and added some features to the streamer client

like stop and go features

Dune 28-Dec-18 02:28 PM

those kinda are in vanilla now with the player ready mode, right

Sonix 28-Dec-18 02:32 PM

it stops via chat

pauses the game if u say "stop"

and starts a vote if u say go to resume

pretty useful in tournaments

Dune 28-Dec-18 02:33 PM

sv_player_ready_mode 1 does that neatly (edited)

Sonix 28-Dec-18 02:35 PM

that wasnt the case in 0.6 ^^

but yeah now its not needed

another feature was Restrict Streaming to authed clients (e.g, mod password)

no spamprotection in teamchat

LordSk 28-Dec-18 02:41 PM

@WaRNe0nx3 @redix is working on porting the race mod to 0.7, I may make the hprace mod based on it if I have the time to.

MertenNor 28-Dec-18 03:17 PM

why did we get rid of the +1 in the forums again?

bring it back?

heinrich5991 28-Dec-18 03:20 PM

incompatibility with the forum version

MertenNor 28-Dec-18 03:42 PM

oh

Tetsuga 28-Dec-18 04:46 PM

Hey everyone

Savander 28-Dec-18 05:15 PM

heyoo

https://www.figma.com/proto/bLgChORDi6kGGPnyFkVQoMpN/AutoMapper?node-id=0%3A1&scaling=min-zoom

pre-pre alpha of auto mapper

thing

;v

Savander 28-Dec-18 05:29 PM

The idea is to help people generate auto-mapps

there will be basic editor as well, where you will be able to make simple automaper, with corners, and few other stuff

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just by drag and drop

Sonix 28-Dec-18 06:06 PM

nice

Sonix 28-Dec-18 07:26 PM

guys, I think I am dead

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Dune 28-Dec-18 07:34 PM

use hammer :D

Slayer *gV* 28-Dec-18 10:27 PM

@Sonix I am really interested in your doings in this regard. Maybe we could merge your work to improve things?

I have quite some more ideas that could be very useful. Some brainstorming could be helpful.

klenha 29-Dec-18 12:08 PM

dune= nude

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Leat`eq 29-Dec-18 11:14 PM

Joined the server.

Zeta-Hoernchen 30-Dec-18 11:08 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 30-Dec-18 02:29 PM

@WaRNe0nx3 wow, 24th http://race.teesites.net/profile/280/ :D

WaRNe0nx3 - userlist - Teerace

Teerace is a project gathering results from a network of trusted Teeworlds Race-mod servers. The idea behind it is to create a global ranking/stats system covering as wide span of results as we manage to obtain.

WaRNe0nx3 30-Dec-18 02:30 PM

oh nice teerace website working again

Savander 30-Dec-18 02:30 PM

http://race.teesites.net/profile/292/

Savander - userlist - Teerace

Teerace is a project gathering results from a network of trusted Teeworlds Race-mod servers. The idea behind it is to create a global ranking/stats system covering as wide span of results as we manage to obtain.

cmon! im 100th!

:D:DD

poko 30-Dec-18 10:51 PM

Joined the server.

hello everyone

Dune 30-Dec-18 10:52 PM

hello

Michel 31-Dec-18 12:02 AM

Joined the server.

Speedy Consoles 31-Dec-18 12:53 AM

Joined the server.

Sonix 31-Dec-18 08:23 AM

already loving the visuals of this mod

sinety 31-Dec-18 12:45 PM

what is this

Dune 31-Dec-18 12:46 PM

ConQuest (https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12656)

[MOD] ConQuest (CQ) (0.7.1) (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworl...

[MOD] ConQuest (CQ) (0.7.1) (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

sinety 31-Dec-18 01:38 PM

dang that looks nice

ReiTW 31-Dec-18 06:37 PM

teeworlds turns into battlefield

sinety 31-Dec-18 07:05 PM

yes pls

add more points

there already was a gamemode with vehicles as far as i know too

just merge that

Sonix 31-Dec-18 07:23 PM

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ZombieToad 31-Dec-18 07:30 PM

battle mod is fun

except for the mines

ReiTW 01-Jan-19 12:05 AM

happy new year

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SirPoizon 01-Jan-19 12:52 AM

Happy nuds year

New

MuffinMario 01-Jan-19 07:14 PM

Joined the server.

hello peeps

Slayer *gV* 01-Jan-19 07:21 PM

Hello @MuffinMario

Dune 01-Jan-19 07:59 PM

Hello ConquestMan :)

MuffinMario 01-Jan-19 08:19 PM

hello... dune?

ZoOoM.7z 01-Jan-19 10:16 PM

Joined the server.

leucovorin 01-Jan-19 11:55 PM

!help

Dune 02-Jan-19 12:00 AM

/info

MuffinMario 02-Jan-19 12:02 AM

/cmdlist

Dune 02-Jan-19 01:34 PM

Strings have been updated on Transifex

Anyone speaks russian? we've got some 10% to fill in :)

xy0 02-Jan-19 02:28 PM

Joined the server.

YoungFlyme 02-Jan-19 03:53 PM

Joined the server.

Noffelect 02-Jan-19 07:30 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 03-Jan-19 05:45 PM

Joined the server.

Slayer *gV* 03-Jan-19 08:12 PM

Would anyone mind to compile my mods for windows?

MuffinMario 03-Jan-19 08:42 PM

x64 sure

Savander 03-Jan-19 08:53 PM

i think, you can compile x64 and x86 (edited)

in that case (edited)

MuffinMario 03-Jan-19 09:28 PM

yeah im not familiar with the whole build system so idunno

Savander 03-Jan-19 09:30 PM

with bam, you can specify arch

bam.exe arch=x86_64, arch=x86

Lyax 04-Jan-19 01:40 AM

Joined the server.

Skayland 04-Jan-19 09:19 AM

Joined the server.

b1tt 04-Jan-19 09:20 AM

Joined the server.

yo

anyone wanna play?

Skayland 04-Jan-19 09:23 AM

You do better ask that in ddnet server, that one is more active and there is more people there

b1tt 04-Jan-19 09:24 AM

link

in dms

Skayland 04-Jan-19 09:27 AM

Done

Did you blocked me?

Dune 04-Jan-19 10:34 AM

@Savander i think you need 32bit libs then

Savander 04-Jan-19 10:37 AM

That is not a problem, especially on windows

Slayer *gV* 04-Jan-19 10:41 AM

x64 is sufficient. x86 is dying anyway.

Skayland 04-Jan-19 11:45 AM

What is the @irclink bot for?

Dune 04-Jan-19 11:46 AM

It maintains an IRC bridge with Quakenet/#teeworlds over at #bridge

Skayland 04-Jan-19 11:46 AM

Why i cant send messages there?

Dune 04-Jan-19 11:46 AM

read the topic

Skayland 04-Jan-19 11:47 AM

Oh

Dune 04-Jan-19 11:48 AM

Anyone can request two-way access. Since IRC has no power here, you're requested to strictly abide by the IRC rules, hence the on-request-only measure.

(and avoid long text/code/emojis, those don't port well to IRC)

anyone can access the IRC channel directly with an IRC client or https://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=#teeworlds

Skayland 04-Jan-19 11:49 AM

Thanks

I wil check it later

7:50 am here, and i didnt sleep, im dying so cya xd

Dune 04-Jan-19 11:50 AM

ouch, good luck

Sub^v^ 04-Jan-19 05:30 PM

Joined the server.

lmayo 04-Jan-19 06:21 PM

Joined the server.

Shaddy 04-Jan-19 06:24 PM

Joined the server.

Skayland 05-Jan-19 05:02 AM

"I'll pretend you didnt know, and i'll smile" https://youtu.be/NvIe4tJfoOI Check this band :( it is just awesome and they deserve a lot more views and subs

8 Graves

8 Graves - Smile

Video by Wei Jerry Chen http://www.weijerrychen.com/ Follow 8 Graves: Website: http://www.8Graves.com Spotify: http://spoti.fi/1Woty4O Apple Music: http://ap...

I know that was so random, sry

Dune 05-Jan-19 10:21 AM

rule 3: be relevant

Slayer *gV* 05-Jan-19 11:29 AM

For our upcoming mod DOMINATION, we could need some more helping hands for MAPS and DOKU (wiki). Feel free to PM me if interested.

Skayland 05-Jan-19 12:17 PM

Where can i find rules for this server? Xd

Dune 05-Jan-19 12:20 PM

Never had the need for a strict ruleset so far, so "Adapt and apply the IRC ruleset" is the motto: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12576

Teeworlds Discord - IRC bridge, development & general chat (Page 1...

Teeworlds Discord - IRC bridge, development & general chat (Page 1) — Discussions — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

It's just that if everyone goes on about his own things, teeworlds stuff will get drowned

@NoTeefy you may want to report that bindaddr bug if you haven't found the issue

Skayland 05-Jan-19 12:25 PM

Who is the original creator of teeworlds? I mean, the first guy of you all that came out with the idea

Dune 05-Jan-19 12:35 PM

teeworlds was originally teewars. matricks would at least be one of those guys

Skayland 05-Jan-19 01:33 PM

:000

I played teewars on linux 13.0.4 (i think)

That makes me an old player?

Savander 05-Jan-19 01:46 PM

teewars was like

12 years ago I guess

or more

Dune 05-Jan-19 01:54 PM

ubuntu 13.0.4 dates from 2013

that is way past the teewars days

Savander 05-Jan-19 02:02 PM

why teewars changed to teeworlds

?

copyright problems?

Dune 05-Jan-19 02:10 PM

internal struggle

I don4t know much, I wasn4t around in those days

Skayland 05-Jan-19 02:11 PM

Yea, its from 2013, but the ubuntu resource download had teewars somehow

Dune 05-Jan-19 02:11 PM

possible :) (edited)

Skayland 05-Jan-19 02:11 PM

Cuz i played it, and until 2017 when my pc broke i still had the "teewars" folder lol xd

2016*

Dune 05-Jan-19 02:12 PM

not sure if you could still find teewars servers in 2013 :)

Skayland 05-Jan-19 02:12 PM

Sadly not, but i played some kind of lan with a friend

Dune 05-Jan-19 02:13 PM

I see, that's cool

NoTeefy 05-Jan-19 02:34 PM

@Dune didn‘t dig into it that far yet but it‘s pretty much a bug. Could be related to some buster packets on one of my dev debian servers

WsY[FU]? 05-Jan-19 02:35 PM

Speaking of old versions, does anyone have older bigger versions of dm1?

Skayland 05-Jan-19 02:36 PM

Maybe me, i will check later

(Im on phone right now)

Slayer *gV* 05-Jan-19 02:37 PM

The second original founder of teewars left and didn't share the copyright with matricks. Thus he had to rename it.

Skayland 05-Jan-19 02:45 PM

I checked, older dm1 version i have is from 0.4.3 Is not bigger, is the same

Savander 05-Jan-19 02:48 PM

you can try to check heinrich map collection

https://downloads.teeworlds.com/

or here

maybe you will find map in older version of teeworlds

https://downloads.teeworlds.com/old_releases/

and map collection: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10509

[MAP PACK] Map collection (Page 1) — Maps — Teeworlds Forum

[MAP PACK] Map collection (Page 1) — Maps — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

That's curious. Older versions of teeworlds were much bigger than current one

!

Skayland 05-Jan-19 02:53 PM

I saw it too

More than 60mb lol

Is it possible to add more emotes to tw? Or revive the old ones? (Example: dead tee emote)

Savander 05-Jan-19 03:00 PM

You can write post on teeworlds forum to discuss proposal

Skayland 05-Jan-19 03:16 PM

I never get attention there xd

Dune 05-Jan-19 03:17 PM

you posted?

Skayland 05-Jan-19 03:18 PM

See? Xd no one knows i exist

Dune 05-Jan-19 03:18 PM

well I don't know your nick there

Skayland 05-Jan-19 03:19 PM

Me neither, i abandoned the forum lol

Dune 05-Jan-19 03:38 PM

explains why I don't know you exist ;)

anyway, if you want to give suggestions, they'll matter more there than here

Slayer *gV* 05-Jan-19 05:05 PM

Well, afaik no gameplay suggestion from teeworlds.com made it into this game. But good luck trying

Dune 05-Jan-19 05:12 PM

there is a full log of all gameplay suggestions that made it in the game in the development subforum, all suggested there

the more recent topics are only a few weeks old :)

Skayland 05-Jan-19 05:50 PM

Any good client with dummy NOT BEING ddnet? :^) im so tired of it freezing or not even starting

Skayland 05-Jan-19 06:51 PM

Im seriously needing a new client...

Sonix 05-Jan-19 06:57 PM

get the default one

Skayland 05-Jan-19 06:57 PM

I need a dummy

Dune 05-Jan-19 07:00 PM

get two of the default ones

Skayland 05-Jan-19 07:44 PM

XD all teeworlds clients i had: always closed if minimized and maximized so much times

Including vanilla

Im never lucky about teeworlds lol

Savander 05-Jan-19 07:45 PM

what

Skayland 05-Jan-19 07:46 PM

Btw is there something i can help with? Im feeling powerful today Maybe i can try doing graphics, or searching bugs, or whatever, just send something i will try to help

Savander 05-Jan-19 07:46 PM

Your Teeworlds crashes after minimizing and maximizing?

Skayland 05-Jan-19 07:46 PM

Only sometimes

Savander 05-Jan-19 07:47 PM

What OS you have?

Skayland 05-Jan-19 07:47 PM

Alt + tab in windows 5-6 times makes teeworlda to freez so i have to close it And i had a similar problem on ubuntu

Right now windows 8.1, bad OS i know

I dknt remember the hotkey for ubuntu desktop switching, but the problem was technically the same thing than this current windows one

Dont*

Savander 05-Jan-19 07:48 PM

That's weird

with teeworlds 0.7.2 as well?

Skayland 05-Jan-19 07:48 PM

I didnt tried minimizing it yet

Wait

Savander 05-Jan-19 07:49 PM

If yes, you should make issue on github about that

with reproduce steps

Skayland 05-Jan-19 07:50 PM

Nop

Is not closing

Thats good news for me

Just tested

But

Maybe it closes if i switch from one client to another, that happened too

Wait i will test it now

Switching from teeworlds to ddnet a lot of times made ddnet crash, but thats probably a ddnet issue

That means 0.7.2 works fine

at least for me compared to older versions

Dune 05-Jan-19 07:59 PM

you should take a look at https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues if you want to help with teeworlds itself and have the skills for that

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

if you can only do graphics, you can filter by graphics: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Agraphics

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1390

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Skayland 05-Jan-19 07:59 PM

Thanks

Dune 05-Jan-19 07:59 PM

for example, we need a flag for bots now

Add flag for ai-controlled players · Issue #1390 · teeworlds/tee...

Add a flag for ai-controlled players (client, server) so you can filter them within the server browser (similar to spectators). Updatet: visual indication missing (in the server browser and or ingame)

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:00 PM

Thats easy, wait i will do it now

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:00 PM

flags are not the easiest ^^ there are some guidelines for them afaik

@Zatline @android272 maybe could help you, they are our artists

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:01 PM

Is there a written guideline somewhere?

android272 05-Jan-19 08:01 PM

What's up?

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:02 PM

Hi

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:02 PM

some guidelines would be nice since Mice wants to help with gfx

android272 05-Jan-19 08:02 PM

We do have guidelines

Oh ok.

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:02 PM

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:02 PM

there are flag specific guidelines afaik?

android272 05-Jan-19 08:03 PM

I still want to talk to @Zatline about the guidelines before we make them public.

You mean the CTF flag?

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:03 PM

no, countryflag

android272 05-Jan-19 08:05 PM

Oh

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:06 PM

there are also translations, @Skayland

https://www.transifex.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/languages/

The Teeworlds translation project on Transifex

Translate Teeworlds into your own language.

if you speak any language that isn't at 100%

(most aren't)

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:06 PM

I can translate to spanish, and maybe portuguesse, but i dont know any other :(

android272 05-Jan-19 08:07 PM

So the guidelines do not mention country flags. The only thing I can remember is that there is a size restriction, a boarder, and a shadow that is needed. Country flags are pretty easy.

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:07 PM

portuguese is fine but spanish has 48 untranslated words

https://www.transifex.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/translate/#es/teeworlds

Add flag for ai-controlled players · Issue #1390 · teeworlds/tee...

Log in to your Transifex account. Or sign up to start your own project or help translate an existing one.

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:07 PM

Okee, spanish is my native language so that is going to be fast xd

And about the country flag, i could just copy an existing flag and edit it changing colors and logos/icons/whatever Basically using another flag as a base

Right?

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:08 PM

well translating isn't as easy as it looks - it has to be good in context

ask @android272 if you can do that

even if you can't do it completely properly, proposing drafts on the github issue would already be tremendous help

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:09 PM

Im doing the translation now xd

android272 05-Jan-19 08:10 PM

Yah we can just edit the default flag. We will need an SVG file of the flag. Which flag are you looking to add?

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:10 PM

Dune told me we need a flag for bots (?)

android272 05-Jan-19 08:12 PM

Huh, yeah I guess we do.

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:15 PM

would be nice if you posted a draft at https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1390 so we can start discussing

Add a flag for ai-controlled players (client, server) so you can filter them within the server browser (similar to spectators). Updatet: visual indication missing (in the server browser and or ingame)

@Skayland

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:17 PM

Draft? Like a concept?

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:17 PM

somewhat, yes :)

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:17 PM

Okay, but i want to do the translation first xd cuz it will be faster

I clicked "join team" at transifex, so, now i have to wait or what?

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:18 PM

huh, you can start right away

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:18 PM

Oh

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:18 PM

https://www.transifex.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/translate/#es/teeworlds/160865870?q=translated%3Ano

Log in to your Transifex account. Or sign up to start your own project or help translate an existing one.

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:18 PM

Ok

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:26 PM

@Dune i finished the translation

@android272 sorry to bother you, what program do you use to draw/make the graphics?

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:32 PM

be careful with the capitalization, clan is not capitalized: https://www.transifex.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/translate/#es/teeworlds/160865870?q=translator%3AMiceSkaymouse

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Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:36 PM

But clan isnt capitalized in spanish

Doesnt matter?

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:39 PM

my point is that "Añadir Clan" should probably be "Añadir clan"

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:40 PM

Yes

Wait, did i capitalized clan?

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:41 PM

click the link

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:41 PM

Im on phone

I have to copy it by hand, wait

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:42 PM

might want to do that on PC :P

heinrich5991 05-Jan-19 08:42 PM

@Dune I believe the issue means "flag" not as in "country flag" but as in "bit flag"

not entirely sure though

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:42 PM

the issue was about bit flag, but now we need a country flag$ confusing I know

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:42 PM

Im using discord on phone and have transifex on laptop xd

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:42 PM

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that's why the issue is tagged graphics @heinrich5991

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:44 PM

I copied the link

And fixed it, so now its "Añadir clan"

heinrich5991 05-Jan-19 08:44 PM

oops

Dune 05-Jan-19 08:47 PM

Attachment: spanish.json (22.67 KB)

this is the generated spanish.json from Transifex. Put it in data/languages to test the translations, @Skayland , and make sure there is no text overflow

Skayland 05-Jan-19 08:48 PM

Okay

Dune 05-Jan-19 09:02 PM

Sounds like someone has a similar question over at https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122419#p122419

@android272 will answer better than I, but I think inkscape is great for that?

Savander 05-Jan-19 09:04 PM

i think, Inkscape/Illustrator for Vector graphic

Skayland 05-Jan-19 09:11 PM

I checked the translation

They all fit correctly

Dune 05-Jan-19 09:12 PM

alright, thanks :)

Skayland 05-Jan-19 09:12 PM

But found this

this

and this

these are not my translations, but i think i can fix them

Dune 05-Jan-19 09:16 PM

please fix any overflow you find, yes (edited)

Skayland 05-Jan-19 09:16 PM

what is the number of these two? or how do i search them? xD

Dune 05-Jan-19 09:16 PM

with the search bar ^^^

Skayland 05-Jan-19 09:16 PM

so

i search it in english?

Dune 05-Jan-19 09:17 PM

or spanish

just use transifex

Skayland 05-Jan-19 09:17 PM

oh, yea xD

ok

Skayland 05-Jan-19 09:30 PM

red = bad size green = good size yellow = good size for slide thing (edited)

1

Dune 05-Jan-19 09:31 PM

If you find issues that you believe require code changes, you can open an issue on teeworlds github at https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/new

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Skayland 05-Jan-19 09:32 PM

should i put this one there?

oh and i fixed all translation problems i could see, so everything should be okay now (edited)

Dune 05-Jan-19 09:38 PM

"Mouse sens" is already abbreviated

Maybe you could work around it with the spanish translation

But better post it there yeah :)

heinrich5991 05-Jan-19 09:40 PM

@Dune the "new" link gives a login page to people who are not already signed in. https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues is a bit nicer IMO

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8728

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Dune 05-Jan-19 09:40 PM

okay

android272 05-Jan-19 10:16 PM

@Skayland we use Inkacape export in SVG.

heinrich5991 05-Jan-19 10:27 PM

@android272 I guess you could answer this question? https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122419#p122419

Skayland 05-Jan-19 10:27 PM

okay n_n i will try making a concept for that flag

android272 05-Jan-19 10:36 PM

@heinrich5991 yep

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:19 PM

Joined the server.

Hello guys, I am currently searching for two modifications: zCatch and GCTF. Can anyone tell me where I can find them?

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:20 PM

Hello

Those have not been ported to 0.7 yet afaik

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:21 PM

Hey!

That would not be a problem. Do you have a link or something to the older versions?

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:21 PM

gctf is probably somewhere in the forum

[Search MOD] gCTF (GrenadeInstagib) (Page 1) — Modifications —...

[Search MOD] gCTF (GrenadeInstagib) (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

there is a gctf community discord too

Slayer *gV* 06-Jan-19 02:24 PM

The images of the Teeworlds Map Editor Tutorial are deleted. Or will my browser just not render them?

[MAPS] Teeworlds Map Editor Tutorial - 0.6.0 (Page 1) — Tutorial...

[MAPS] Teeworlds Map Editor Tutorial - 0.6.0 (Page 1) — Tutorials — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:26 PM

they are imageshack images

try accessing the url ;)

Slayer *gV* 06-Jan-19 02:28 PM

Does it work for you?

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:28 PM

zCatch is my reposiotory

with changes, which are on DDNet servers

Slayer *gV* 06-Jan-19 02:28 PM

It will redirect me to imageshack root url

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:28 PM

don't know if you like them, they were quite popular

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:28 PM

yes @Slayer *gV* , that is the point, and why the links are broken

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:28 PM

I just tried looking up a guide on how to 'compile' a mod and you were mentioned in the comments haha

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:29 PM

https://github.com/savander/teeworlds/tree/zCatch

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Slayer *gV* 06-Jan-19 02:29 PM

Don't get what you are trying to tell me, Dune.

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:29 PM

imageshack just don't host images for a long time (edited)

they delete them quite fast

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:30 PM

@Vlaeko haha nice to hear

the how to compile guides are in the doc, thanks to @Fisico, our doc expert :D

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=compiling_everything

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:31 PM

@Savander Oh awesome! I'm a bit lost though. Do I download the sourcecode from github? I'd like to setup my own little server for offline/backup purposes.

Slayer *gV* 06-Jan-19 02:31 PM

What a shame. Anyone knows of a good another mapping tutorial?

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:31 PM

@Vlaeko, that zCatch is for 0.6

if anyone want to port, he can. or you can try https://github.com/Teelevision/zcatch

Teelevision/zcatch

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another repo, i forked from here

and made my changes

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:36 PM

@Dune I went through the compiling documentation, thank you for the link!

I still am a bit confused

what exactly does compiling do?

is it necessary in order to setup a modded server?

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:37 PM

it translates source code into machine code, binaries

you can't execute source code on your computer

the github might have releases if you are new with coding though

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:38 PM

Often, people will put binaries to execute, to their mods

so you will not have to compile code, at least on windows (edited)

It could be overwhelming, compiling stuff etc

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:39 PM

yeah

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:40 PM

but, for 0.7 there's no much mods yet (edited)

it's new release

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:40 PM

it's coming though :)

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:41 PM

Yes, faster and faster ^.^

I wait for 0.8 tho

hahaha

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:41 PM

eh lol

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:42 PM

it is, at least a little :D I'm willing to learn though! In this case there is a release from 2011 on the zcatch github page. I downloaded the .zip file. However there is no server.exe file to be found. Only folders with the game data. Do I have to copy over the server.exe from the original game?

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:42 PM

no guarantees of that, @Savander

no, you have to compile it @Vlaeko

compiling creates the .exe

but it can be a bit tricky

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:42 PM

ahh

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:43 PM

Yea, but 0.7 actually made a lot. I'm happy ^.^

@Vlaeko which mod you want?

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:43 PM

zcatch and gctf - both for the regular client

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:43 PM

0.6?

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:44 PM

0.6 would be fine, the version does not matter that much

ChillerDragon 06-Jan-19 02:44 PM

"version does not matter" lol

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:44 PM

well if you just want to play with friends, it doesn't ^^

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:44 PM

to me I mean

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:44 PM

actually it does, 0.6 server is not compatible with 0.7 teeworlds

right

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:45 PM

@Dune exactly

Dune 06-Jan-19 02:45 PM

well depending on what you want to do, that doesn't matter @Savander

if you just want to play

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 02:46 PM

for the moment I only want to store a local copy of the game which allows me to play an infinite grenade mode and if needed share the game with friends and play that gamemode together

Savander 06-Jan-19 02:51 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=7958

[MOD] zCatch (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

[MOD] zCatch (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

I think, that's the latest original zCatch

my is based on that one

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 03:01 PM

@Savander Awesome! Thank you very much! I'm currently configuring the server and it seems to work!

@Savander It works. Thanks a lot!

Do you have any idea where I could find a compiled gctf server exe?

Also is there an option to disable showing the score overview when joining the server? With zcatch it currently shows it for quite a long time before being able to play.

Savander 06-Jan-19 03:13 PM

what do you mean?

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=9431

[MOD] TW+ - iFreeze and Instagib-Mod (Page 1) — Modifications ...

[MOD] TW+ - iFreeze and Instagib-Mod (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

that mod seems to have gCTF

and other gamemodes

you could use that one

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 03:16 PM

this one seems to be perfect

thank you ❤

Savander 06-Jan-19 03:17 PM

no problem (edited)

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 03:17 PM

if it is from 2014 it probably was teeworlds version 6.5 too, right?

0.6*

Savander 06-Jan-19 03:17 PM

yes

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 03:23 PM

If I only put the server.exe files with a config.cfg and a shortcut to start the server into an extra server, it won't start is there anything else that the server file needs in order to run? at the moment I have multiple copies of the game with a modified server file each or is that required to be this way?

Savander 06-Jan-19 03:23 PM

data folder

with map

just copy data/ folder from your teeworlds game directory

and it will work

also, you can use "autoexec.cfg" config file

so, it will automatically exec that config, on server run

without need of specifing config

Dune 06-Jan-19 03:34 PM

might want to look into https://github.com/Teetime/teeworlds/releases

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Savander 06-Jan-19 03:37 PM

I think, he took server from there

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 03:38 PM

I did, thank you though!

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 04:02 PM

@Savander @Dune I'm currently configuring all my local servers. And they all are working! I picked up OpenFNG too. I wanted to again say a big thank you to you both!

❤

Have a nice rest of the weekend!

Savander 06-Jan-19 04:03 PM

You too

(edited)

Dune 06-Jan-19 04:05 PM

[Pakhomov] 06-Jan-19 07:55 PM

Joined the server.

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 08:53 PM

Does anybody have the grass catch map from catch16? Or in general: Is there a way to download maps?

Dune 06-Jan-19 08:53 PM

Did you already download it?

also, look in http://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/maps/maps/

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 08:54 PM

I could not find it online and it is not in my teeworlds folder

whoah those are a lot of maps

awesome!

thanks for the link

Dune 06-Jan-19 08:57 PM

thank heinrich for that ;)

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 09:03 PM

haha well thanks to heinrich then

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 09:30 PM

@Dune Sorry to bother you again, but do you happen to know where I can get the regular 'race' mod? I only found this link (https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4812) but its download links no longer work.

[MOD] Catch16 (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

[MOD] Catch16 (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Aaand an additonal question: What could be the reason why connecting to a server that should be from the same country as me takes a very long time and seems not to work?

Trying to access the 'Unique GER - Race' servers (edited)

Or is it possible to access the maps from a server without joining via the client?

Skayland 06-Jan-19 09:46 PM

Wdym? Not connecting to the server and playing in some kind of "single player"? @Vlaeko

Dune 06-Jan-19 09:48 PM

@Vlaeko the developer of the race mod is @redix

I don't think he made a release tho :(

Savander 06-Jan-19 09:48 PM

he's playing 0.6 tho

Dune 06-Jan-19 09:48 PM

so have to compile from his github or ask someone

Savander 06-Jan-19 09:48 PM

he can use 0.6 version

Dune 06-Jan-19 09:48 PM

he said any version, @Savander

the race mod is over at https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds

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@Vlaeko it's probably a server issue, there are other issues than locations

and the only way to play maps locally is to... start a server locally. (that can be as simple as starting the teeworlds_srv and entering the f2 console)

Savander 06-Jan-19 09:51 PM

Was there a suggestion, about add to map-editor "test map" button?

It could open the server with map

Dune 06-Jan-19 09:51 PM

I wrote a mod for that in 0.6 :)

someone ported that feature to 0.7 even

Savander 06-Jan-19 09:51 PM

Great, but officialy?

Dune 06-Jan-19 09:51 PM

no

Savander 06-Jan-19 09:52 PM

It would be useful (edited)

Dune 06-Jan-19 09:52 PM

you would have to do that in a thread, it requires some technical skills

lots of things would be useful

Savander 06-Jan-19 09:52 PM

That's right

Skayland 06-Jan-19 09:53 PM

Where i can find that test map mod? :0

That would be so useful

Dune 06-Jan-19 09:54 PM

for 0.6, I only know my own client (gamer), for 0.7, it's the bla client

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 09:58 PM

oh cool @Dune with this teeworlds pack I was able to join that race server, before that I tried joining with the vanilla client :D is it possible to setup my own local race server? do I use this teeworlds pack for that purpose?

Dune 06-Jan-19 09:58 PM

I don't know what pack you are talking about

the 0.6's sushitee client pack?

you can join any server with the vanilla client

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 09:59 PM

the one you linked to me above

https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds/tree/race

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oh wait I might have downloaded the wrong thing

did you mean to only download the 'race' branch from github and then compile it? (edited)

Dune 06-Jan-19 10:02 PM

the "releases" doesn't have any race unfortunately

hopefully @redix can make one soon enough

but what did you want to do? host a race server?

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 10:03 PM

yeah haha

I'm still trying to create local servers for all of my favourite mods so that I have a copy ready whenever I want to access it

thanks to your and Savandars help I got pretty far

Dune 06-Jan-19 10:03 PM

then you need to build it from the race branch or ask someone

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 10:04 PM

you mean for the .exe?

Dune 06-Jan-19 10:04 PM

yes

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 10:06 PM

uuuuh @Savander do you have another minute to spare?

are you able to compile the race branch into a server.exe from this link?

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Dune 06-Jan-19 10:07 PM

OS?

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 10:07 PM

windows 10 - 64bit

Dune 06-Jan-19 10:08 PM

Attachment: teeworlds_srv_race.exe (646 KB)

Savander 06-Jan-19 10:09 PM

here you go haha

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 10:10 PM

Thank you very, very much!

Fudgy 06-Jan-19 10:11 PM

the Unique race servers are based on ddnet mod, idk what they did but I think I couldnt log into them with vanilla client too

Vlaeko 06-Jan-19 10:20 PM

@Fudgy Hmm yes thats weird. At least I'm not the only one

the sv_gametype of the race mod probably is just called race, right? (edited)

Fudgy 06-Jan-19 10:20 PM

it is

Fudgy 06-Jan-19 10:32 PM

anyone knows the best way (if any) to get the clientID of the client who called a command in f2?

heinrich5991 06-Jan-19 11:39 PM

you mean your own cid?

Fudgy 06-Jan-19 11:41 PM

yes, the cid of who wrote the command (so my own if I'm the one who wrote it)

heinrich5991 06-Jan-19 11:47 PM

this should be output

perhaps you need to adjust the verbosity

console_output_level 1

Dune 07-Jan-19 12:43 AM

anyone with basic chinese around?

Skayland 07-Jan-19 06:30 AM

can you make x_ninja eyes usable for next update? c: ❤

also im porting some skins to 0.7.2 system

someone has to start doing it ya no'?

Skayland 07-Jan-19 09:04 AM

Only greyfox by whis right now, i will add more when i get time to do so

Attachment: someskins-0.7PortByMice.zip (12.48 KB)

if you see bad quality its cuz old skins are 96px, newer system uses 128px

Dune 07-Jan-19 09:21 AM

That's nice :)

what do you mean by make ninja eyes usable?

Skayland 07-Jan-19 09:23 AM

i want to see them here xd

Dune 07-Jan-19 10:18 AM

But if you could select the ninja eyes as normal eyes, what would the ninja eyes be?

MuffinMario 07-Jan-19 11:43 AM

The inverse?

Zatline 07-Jan-19 07:00 PM

I have already tested white eyes to potentially be added and the results where quite inconsistent with the team coloration sheme .. white eyes are barly visable turns out that eyes have the same coloring sheme applied as the other skin parts meaning that if the skin is of a bright color and eyes are also a bright color with very little difference in luminosity they both camoflash each other when gettin team colored.

Skayland 07-Jan-19 07:02 PM

:0

Zatline 07-Jan-19 07:14 PM

it's game breaking in my opininion, people will eventually abuse it that moment the whole artstyle crumbles

I have an alternativ however that is very dark greyish eyes that have little to no difference to black eyes in a grand scem except that a slight color can be applied it's a darkish color but it works

WsY[FU]? 07-Jan-19 07:32 PM

Except, it doesn't matter as long as you don't have these eyes downloaded

There are skins small enough people hide behind tiny doodadds

Some black skins are forbidden on noby's fng, because people can't easily tell difference on the run between skin and freezed tee (ninja)

If skin skin hurts gameplay, people will just delete it from their folders and move on

Zatline 07-Jan-19 07:40 PM

with the new skin system you are able to see everyones skin if they have the same parts as you if white eyes are part of official tw client everyone has it and everyone will see bad skins u can't just assume that people will use it correctly that's very unlikely

WsY[FU]? 07-Jan-19 07:41 PM

Oh, i overlooked the part where white eyes were suggested to be added

By the way, competitive servers might just force specific skins on players, and since it's 0.7, people will see themself as always, but all other players with forced default skin

Zatline 07-Jan-19 07:47 PM

it doesn't seem innovative if the competitive scene has to start establishing exception rules just to work

WsY[FU]? 07-Jan-19 07:48 PM

Competitive scene does that in most games, but ig it's a whole different topic, right?

Also, alternative: separated pupil and iris

Black pupil on white iris

People will make eye whatever color they want, black pupil (+ black eye outline) will still indicate eyes position (edited)

Slayer *gV* 07-Jan-19 07:52 PM

Any1 for domination? Search for slayer.

WsY[FU]? 07-Jan-19 07:54 PM

Not me, ortodox xmas got me hard in the liver

android272 08-Jan-19 02:29 AM

Just bumped this post: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122448#p122448

I made a script a long time ago that will convert old 0.6 skins into 0.7 skins.

Skayland 08-Jan-19 03:02 AM

Thats good but idk how it works xd im dumb

android272 08-Jan-19 05:31 AM

@Skayland What OS do you run?

Skayland 08-Jan-19 05:32 AM

Windows 8.1

And Android on phone

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:04 AM

Nice :)

android272 08-Jan-19 03:20 PM

Yah this script was made in Ubuntu Linux, probably will work on mac. I tried to run in on windows and it did not work.

Dune 08-Jan-19 03:28 PM

Win10 could do it with bash (?)

android272 08-Jan-19 03:32 PM

Yah I tried but I got some errors that I don't have time to troubleshoot. I have a funeral to go to today.

Skayland 08-Jan-19 05:10 PM

Aw :( good luck

slinacK 08-Jan-19 07:23 PM

I think we lose too much content because we can't upload images to teeworlds.com

Dune 08-Jan-19 07:23 PM

you can link them and upload them anywhere else

attachments aren't that convenient

slinacK 08-Jan-19 07:24 PM

Would it demand too much of the host?

Dune 08-Jan-19 07:24 PM

ah, you mean content that expires? nevermind me

slinacK 08-Jan-19 07:24 PM

I mean, at some point the devs even removed the Donate button

We lost many map thumbnails

Dune 08-Jan-19 07:24 PM

yes, that was on purpose

slinacK 08-Jan-19 07:24 PM

Gfx work

Even whole files

Dune 08-Jan-19 07:25 PM

we stopped asking for donations because there was already a lot of money

not for any technical issue

slinacK 08-Jan-19 07:25 PM

Can't believe it couldn't be donw

Yes, that's what I mean

Dune 08-Jan-19 07:25 PM

when it comes to forum attachments, yeah it's an issue, we're not set up for that storage wise according to minus

but even if you set up attachments most people will use external files, you know

you can't really completely avoid the issues

slinacK 08-Jan-19 07:26 PM

You are assuming

Dune 08-Jan-19 07:26 PM

the entirety of solidfiles.com data was backed up thanks to the good work of minus and henirch

from experience from other sites, yeah

well, I'll ask minus again then :)

Skayland 08-Jan-19 07:36 PM

What about stickers/discord-like emotes In-game? Is that possible?

Dune 08-Jan-19 07:37 PM

possible yes

doesn't sound very good though since you don't really have a mouse

but if someone makes a modified client, why not :)

Skayland 08-Jan-19 07:43 PM

:0

I must learn to code

I have a lot of ideas i want to see ingame but idk how to code aaaaa

MuffinMario 08-Jan-19 07:47 PM

that was me before i learned to code, now my ideas are either gone or sound stupid

Skayland 08-Jan-19 07:48 PM

Sad

Meka 08-Jan-19 08:06 PM

Joined the server.

Skayland 08-Jan-19 08:07 PM

Welcome

Skayland 08-Jan-19 08:25 PM

@Dune i accept the irc rules, and i want two way access (edited)

Dune 08-Jan-19 08:28 PM

there you go

keep in mind one line = one message on irc

Skayland 08-Jan-19 08:29 PM

Yes

Meka 08-Jan-19 09:42 PM

yo

Dune 08-Jan-19 09:46 PM

yo

Slayer *gV* 08-Jan-19 10:12 PM

Well, we only have few good tutorials in our tutorial section. But most links are broken.

For some parts, we should ensure that it won't get lost - imo.

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:12 PM

yes, because they're old. if you want more quality tutorials, make them ;)

I have been trying to rehost on teeworlds.com what I could

slinacK 08-Jan-19 10:13 PM

cheesus

Slayer *gV* 08-Jan-19 10:13 PM

Just saying that those few images in news or tutorials etc. wouldn't take too much storage.

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:13 PM

yes

Slayer *gV* 08-Jan-19 10:13 PM

Moving them inhouse sounds like a good idea to me.

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:13 PM

I have been trying to rehost on teeworlds.com what I could

Slayer *gV* 08-Jan-19 10:13 PM

Ah ok

So basically we can, but don't have a convencience UI for common users?

slinacK 08-Jan-19 10:14 PM

were it default, you wouldn't need to do that gruesome work

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:14 PM

we don't have the storage capabilities

read #bridge

slinacK 08-Jan-19 10:14 PM

Read it

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:14 PM

@slinacK you can't make it default, people will always hotlink

slinacK 08-Jan-19 10:17 PM

I just meant publicly available

So only allow it on specific subforums. Namely tutorials, gfx and maps

And add restrictions

I mean, of course it'd require some adjustments that maybe minus doesnt hve the time to do

@Slayer *gV* are you/team making new maps for domination?

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:21 PM

minus said we don't have the capacities for that, unfortunately. I don't think they can be restricted to a subforum either - and tutorials are written outside of the tutorial section before being moved in anyway

Slayer *gV* 08-Jan-19 10:23 PM

@slinacK Fisico made one for the new Conquest Gametype and Sonix is reworking it. Other than that no.

But I found many community maps from the good old times in heinrichs map collection and ported them to 0.7. https://github.com/teeworlds-domination/domination/wiki/Maps:-Domination#community-maps

Domination mod for Teeworlds, a retro multiplayer shooter - teeworlds-domination/domination

Skayland 08-Jan-19 10:36 PM

@Dune as i said in #bridge Cant just add an option to teeworlds.com account's settings to connect a google drive account so attachments are stored there?

So everyone stores their own attachmenta into their own google drive accounts

Attachments*

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:38 PM

a google integration isn't really in the teeworlds FOSS spirit imo

Skayland 08-Jan-19 10:38 PM

Well

There are other free and secure storage services

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:39 PM

well, I'm not the sysadmin either way

Skayland 08-Jan-19 10:39 PM

Also you should check imgbb.com You can upload images and they will never expire, unless you want them to expire in a day or two, and its free, no account needed

Dune 08-Jan-19 10:41 PM

there are plenty of such services. they exist until they don't

Skayland 08-Jan-19 10:42 PM

This one is really old, and probably still has a lot of lifetime X) cya

NoTeefy 08-Jan-19 11:56 PM

just use abload.de

They have been around for over 15 years

images never get deleted if loaded once a year

and they provide fast cdn and stuff

Skayland 09-Jan-19 03:35 AM

Is there any way i can write into server console? Out of game?

Fudgy 09-Jan-19 04:47 AM

like directly in the windows console??

Skayland 09-Jan-19 04:50 AM

Yes

So i dont have to be ingame

Dune 09-Jan-19 09:23 AM

You can use econ to access rcon out of game

Writing in the console is not a thing

Skayland 09-Jan-19 09:37 AM

Econ?

Dune 09-Jan-19 09:54 AM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8275

[MISC] Accessing the external console / econ (Page 1) — Tutorial...

[MISC] Accessing the external console / econ (Page 1) — Tutorials — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Skayland 09-Jan-19 04:05 PM

Oh thanks :D

Skayland 09-Jan-19 06:31 PM

Are there any adventure/rpg-like mods for tw? But not the "kill everything you find to level up" I mean something with a story or puzzles

slinacK 09-Jan-19 06:31 PM

There was one for 0.6

Explorer

Skayland 09-Jan-19 06:31 PM

:0

I will search, thanks!

slinacK 09-Jan-19 06:31 PM

You can find it in twforums

Dune 09-Jan-19 06:33 PM

I was in the process of porting it to 0.7 but it took too much time

Explorer is nice

Slayer *gV* 11-Jan-19 08:36 PM

Looking for some player for my upcoming mod gametype CS:DOM. Just search for "Slayer" in the server browser

Skayland 11-Jan-19 08:37 PM

nice

ChRIstMas`iPro 12-Jan-19 01:52 PM

Joined the server.

ChRIstMas`iPro 12-Jan-19 01:53 PM

Joined the server.

omg so epic

xD

Skayland 12-Jan-19 05:34 PM

Welcome

Slayer *gV* 12-Jan-19 08:18 PM

Looking for some player for my upcoming mod gametype CS:DOM. Just search for "Slayer" in the server browser

Slayer *gV* 12-Jan-19 08:35 PM

Come on, one more ❤

Prankster 12-Jan-19 09:32 PM

Joined the server.

Skayland 12-Jan-19 10:21 PM

Welcome prankster

You should make more tw pranks

ChillerDragon 13-Jan-19 02:43 PM

omg prankster is here xd

Nii 13-Jan-19 03:04 PM

Joined the server.

yavl 13-Jan-19 03:14 PM

Joined the server.

1x1 pvp anyone (not that pro players) on LMS game mode? (vanilla teeworlds 0.7.2)

Skayland 13-Jan-19 03:20 PM

welcome

Skayland 13-Jan-19 10:24 PM

i made a .vbs with a looping msgbox saying "kog is a bad gametype, play fng" feels like a haxxer

Fudgy 13-Jan-19 11:11 PM

kog isnt a gametype tho

Skayland 13-Jan-19 11:13 PM

it is

the "ddrace" used in kog server is not the same as the normal ddrace

but name is the same lol

BasedUser 14-Jan-19 03:10 AM

Joined the server.

Slayer *gV* 14-Jan-19 08:15 PM

Some more for CS:DOM? Search for "Slayer" ingame

☫σяεσ 15-Jan-19 01:49 AM

is it possible to bind two commands to a key without creating a cfg?

Zargon 15-Jan-19 02:16 AM

bind key "command1; command2"

☫σяεσ 15-Jan-19 02:28 AM

"bind f toggle cl_antiping 1 0; echo test" wont work

MuffinMario 15-Jan-19 02:44 AM

Either you missed the " or echo is not a command

☫σяεσ 15-Jan-19 04:06 AM

I don't even think it's works with say

BasedUser 15-Jan-19 09:26 AM

alias command3 "command1; command2" bind f command3

(edited)

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:01 AM

You put the " wrongly, @☫σяεσ

Follow Zargon's instructions

☫σяεσ 15-Jan-19 10:39 AM

I just wrote: bind f toggle cl_antiping 1 0; echo test

I just used the " to show what I've written exactly

And I also tried it with say instead of echo

But I try again now ^^

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:46 AM

You need to use " after bind f Echo is a valid command that is not your problem

☫σяεσ 15-Jan-19 11:14 AM

oh yes, works fine now thank you

NoTeefy 15-Jan-19 04:02 PM

wait a minute, there are aliases? LOL I thought that wasn't implemented

• Püre • 15-Jan-19 09:43 PM

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остановись 15-Jan-19 09:45 PM

Joined the server.

Skayland 15-Jan-19 09:48 PM

Welcome

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:01 PM

@Slayer *gV* cant connect

I guess some others have same problem maybe thats why you have so less players? heard from some people sometimes cant connect to any 0.7 servers too.

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:05 PM

@teini94 That is quite unspecific. To which server and when couldn't you connect?

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:05 PM

haven't heard of that

0.7.2?

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:05 PM

well I cant connect to yours right now

with gamer

and Ganji sometimes cant connect to any servers in 0.7

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:06 PM

huh, did you update to master @Slayer *gV*

protocol was broken iirc

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:06 PM

My server is down atm.

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:06 PM

wut

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:06 PM

Yeah, do a refresh

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:06 PM

that explalins it

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:06 PM

what does it do? just not connect?

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:06 PM

well he cant connect ye

happended to me in 0.6 sometimes too

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:06 PM

no error message?

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:06 PM

no

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:07 PM

If the server is not available anymore, it just will say "Connecting blabla"

Not very explicit.

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:08 PM

well, until a connection is established, you can't know if there is a server or not :P

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:08 PM

But you don't need to wait 1 minute to realize that it is down

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:08 PM

btw slayer this is not the server IP for the others you should ask others to tell you, your server IP

if u need it

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:09 PM

Don't worry, i am fully aware of it.

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:09 PM

k

i dont think there is an feature to see it

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:09 PM

It could just abort after few seconds with "server is not available" or sth like that (edited)

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:10 PM

It could, feel free to propose that

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:10 PM

@Dune I asked someone to help with that chinese thing

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:10 PM

thanks @teini94 :)

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:10 PM

So much to do

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:10 PM

well in 0.6

there was a moment

when I could not set a server online cause

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:10 PM

that's probably cause of DDoS?

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:11 PM

no nothing of that

cause I cant explain, they changed IP thingy right?

to more digits

or something else

dont remember

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:11 PM

ipv6, yes

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:11 PM

yes that

and I had that one or the other one

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:12 PM

Maybe @ReiTW would explain the issue better than I can :)

( https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1294 )

Properly support IPv4/6 dual stack · Issue #1294 · teeworlds/tee...

IPv6 support has been added in 0.6, but dual stack is not properly supported. The following issues exist (and respective ways to solve them): A game server cannot run on IPv4 and IPv6 at once (the ...

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:12 PM

so I changed it

my one*

k

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:21 PM

Issue for the connection thingy: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1975

Be more descriptive when connecting to not available server · Iss...

This issue may be related to #533, #1026 and #1782. Connect to some arbitrary ip. That is basically the same like joining an no-longer available server that was cached in our local serverbrowser li...

teini94 15-Jan-19 10:27 PM

longest connection time I had was 20sec (on a very insane map) I think so dont set it to low

Slayer *gV* 15-Jan-19 10:38 PM

You did already connect but downloaded the map, didn't you?

Dune 15-Jan-19 10:39 PM

yeah, client should be able to tell

markush 16-Jan-19 02:57 AM

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Slayer *gV* 16-Jan-19 11:36 AM

How to add comments to the autoexec.cfg?

ReiTW 16-Jan-19 11:44 AM

# this is a comment

Skayland 16-Jan-19 11:55 AM

@Slayer *gV* is your mod open source?

Slayer *gV* 16-Jan-19 12:01 PM

We will release in few days. But you can find all information already on https://github.com/teeworlds-domination/domination

teeworlds-domination/domination

Domination mod for Teeworlds, a retro multiplayer shooter - teeworlds-domination/domination

@ReiTW Thanks

Skayland 16-Jan-19 12:18 PM

i will check that later, thanks : D

slinacK 18-Jan-19 08:43 PM

@Dune what is this for? https://i.imgur.com/qQPKmGc.png (edited)

☫σяεσ 18-Jan-19 08:51 PM

Can it be highlighted when used? Like showing what keys you are using in a stream? If not, that would be a cool feature

Dune 18-Jan-19 09:13 PM

Tips @slinacK

slinacK 18-Jan-19 09:14 PM

@oreo that's the first thing that popped into my mind when i saw the pic

I thought someone was attempting to make a very well made tutorial

ahah

And then I thought it'd be so useful on demos

But then i saw it was meant to clarify which key performs which action

Sonix 18-Jan-19 09:40 PM

once implemented it could be used in other occasions, too, i guess

btw hi @slinacK

Dune 18-Jan-19 10:00 PM

@☫σяεσ I thought about doing that, it's easy to code

Monkeeyju 18-Jan-19 10:53 PM

Joined the server.

who want is the creator of teeworlds

1

MuffinMario 18-Jan-19 11:39 PM

what

1

slinacK 19-Jan-19 12:48 AM

@Dune, https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1916 - I used to have this issue back when i still played and had Linux Mint installed. Now that i don't play anymore and have this ubuntu 14 distro w Gnome installed, it seems the middle click simulation is gone.. lucky me

On Linux, mouse1+mouse2 becomes mouse3 · Issue #1916 · teeworlds...

This means things like shotgun+hook result in no input by default. However, if I bind mouse3 "+hook;+fire" it works. I'm not sure if it's a particular Linux configuration that cau...

I never played tw on linux because that simulation made it impossible

anyways, i saw this the other day, maybe you could test it:

Dune 19-Jan-19 12:49 AM

i use a bind to fix it

slinacK 19-Jan-19 12:49 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/6exqtu/how_to_disable_middle_mouse_click_as_left_and/

r/archlinux - How to disable middle mouse click as left and right ...

0 votes and 5 comments so far on Reddit

dconf editor

Dune 19-Jan-19 12:49 AM

bind mouse3 +fire;+hook (edited)

prolly works

slinacK 19-Jan-19 12:50 AM

oh

Dune 19-Jan-19 12:50 AM

but it's still teeworlds fault for not handling that properly ^^

slinacK 19-Jan-19 12:50 AM

maybe it's a good workaround

well, the input probably changed before the game even processed it, no?

Dune 19-Jan-19 12:51 AM

SDL could get raw input somehow

magnet 19-Jan-19 02:59 AM

it's pretty easy to disable 3rd button click emulation on linux

and tbh it sucks on modern mouses

and i reinstalled my OS recently and didnt disable 3rd button emulation and it seems off by default, which makes sense since you can't buy a 2 button mouse anymore

1stDecadeTW 19-Jan-19 04:54 AM

@Dune Quick mockup of "on first start show game controls":

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 08:07 AM

On the first picture fire and hook are wrong or do u shoot with right mouse button? Than its fine but u are weird xD (edited)

1

Dune 19-Jan-19 09:16 AM

Lools right to me

@magnet some mouses still have wheel but no mouse3 (edited)

Deleted User 19-Jan-19 10:06 AM

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Dune 19-Jan-19 10:17 AM

@toast.tw I'd need some OSX wizardship when you're around

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 11:37 AM

No its wrongly highlighted

The left mouse button should be lighter for fire and the right should be lighter for hook

Dune 19-Jan-19 11:39 AM

depends on the point of view I guess

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 11:39 AM

If it's ment to be gray, than it wouldn't make sense for any other key as they are white /lightened

A/D and W/S are a good example

Dune 19-Jan-19 11:40 AM

not sure why W/S are highlighted in his mockup, those keys are not bound to anything

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 11:40 AM

They aren't..

Dune 19-Jan-19 11:40 AM

they won't be displayed at all

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 11:40 AM

That Is what I'm trying to tell you

Even if w and s would be gone, all others are still white and not grey, grey means not used

Dune 19-Jan-19 11:46 AM

right, I'll look for a way to make it clear :)

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 11:50 AM

Just like that c:

Dune 19-Jan-19 11:51 AM

the whole mouse should be grey then

either way I don't think it'll be drawn like that

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 11:51 AM

Hm good idea

MuffinMario 19-Jan-19 01:55 PM

The confusion with WASD arises since there is no reason to show w s but not any other unused key around a and d

1stDecadeTW 19-Jan-19 01:57 PM

W and S are supposed to be show but with less emphasis, looks better with all keys even if they are not used (AD WS)... and yes, I'll change colors in the mouses because it's confusing

Dune 19-Jan-19 02:09 PM

Why W and S? They are not bound to anything. Those keys are shown depending on what is bound, it's not static

1stDecadeTW 19-Jan-19 02:43 PM

People are used to see ASD W together, it looks really nice and new players can easily locate the used keys

MuffinMario 19-Jan-19 02:55 PM

i mean its fine. basically everyone understands what you mean when you show this tutorial. i mean they can't ermember everything once they move, but still helpful for beginners. (edited)

heinrich5991 19-Jan-19 03:26 PM

these tips shouldn't be modal

i.e. they shouldn't block you from playing

1stDecadeTW 19-Jan-19 05:35 PM

"Advanced tips" page is placeholder, it could be renamed and used to put additional information in there. The gameplay tips are supposed to be show in the pause menu. You can follow the github issue here: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1803

On first start show game controls. · Issue #1803 · teeworlds/tee...

Dune 19-Jan-19 05:57 PM

@heinrich5991 eh but there needs to be a button to skip

Dune 19-Jan-19 06:08 PM

One screen should be enough and teach the basics

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 06:37 PM

and why is the [esc] lifted a bit?

1stDecadeTW 19-Jan-19 07:05 PM

It could be placed next to the chat keys, I just couldn't find a place to put it

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 08:57 PM

Jeah next to it sounds good, I don't wanna sound too negative here, I rlly like how it looks in general ^^ are there any svg's of "game.png" available? (edited)

☫σяεσ 19-Jan-19 09:54 PM

Only one screen has the problem that "team chat" as a word is too long, so u need an icon that doesn't fit to the rest and is not clear for someone who plays tw for the first time, could look good tho if the side was a bit bigger and it gets arranged in a way that everything has a word as an description. I mean that's at least how I see it

Fudgy 20-Jan-19 03:29 AM

Is it me or you cant favorite a server from browser anymore?

Dune 20-Jan-19 10:15 AM

Click on the star, @Fudgy (edited)

Fudgy 20-Jan-19 04:03 PM

oh lol didnt think of that

ChillerDragon 20-Jan-19 04:28 PM

@Fudgy go nobo beat mi fastcap on mi ctf5 server

Fudgy 20-Jan-19 04:29 PM

I cant find it

ChillerDragon 20-Jan-19 04:30 PM

nobo

149.202.127.134:8304

0.6

its is currently full so speedrunning will be hard ^^

Fudgy 20-Jan-19 04:31 PM

its not a fastcap server lol

Rilla 20-Jan-19 11:14 PM

ANNOUNCING THE gCTF TOURNAMENT 2019 Heya pals , here we are , after some long discussions and a comeback from Corp we decided to organise our own gCTF tournament. Every players from every levels are invited to participate to this tournament so take your weapons and kill them all to earn the prices! BASIC INFORMATION Date: Saturday 09/03/2019 Gametype: gCTF Version: 0.6 Map: CTF 5 - CTF 3 - CTF Tantum - CTF 4_old - CTF Corp and some other maps ( u will be informed soon ) Participant-Limit: 2 players and 1 replacement Rounds: This will be a BO3 on each maps. Loosers will decide of the next map to play on. Time-Limit/Round: 15 Minutes REGISTRATION To register to the tournament , you have to write the name of your team and which members are in it #sign_up . For exemple : Team Spray and Pray : Jax , Trap , Cuube If you don’t have discord, you can’t participate as the organization and communication before, during and after the tournament will take place on that platform. If you're searching for a mate , don't hesitate to post a message in #find_a_team. MODERATION Moderators : Me , Zooom.7z and Rilla Helpers: Corp members Streamer: Zooom.7z PRICES : 50€ to share for the first 30€ to share for the seconds 10€ to share for the thirds If you want to donate to help us , don't hesitate to pm me or one of the moderators / helpers.

I hope that is cool for you

Deleted User 20-Jan-19 11:21 PM

https://discord.gg/hSNWsw6

To subscribe ^^

Dune 20-Jan-19 11:35 PM

ho, https://status.tw got updated

Fudgy 21-Jan-19 02:35 AM

nice

WhoCares 21-Jan-19 11:02 AM

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heinrich5991 21-Jan-19 11:12 AM

@WhoCares mind telling us about your server?

Golfdinger 21-Jan-19 03:47 PM

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toast.tw 21-Jan-19 04:29 PM

@Dune im here

Keyowah 22-Jan-19 02:30 AM

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Shelzy Mogolico 23-Jan-19 02:25 PM

Joined the server.

hi xD?

Slayer *gV* 23-Jan-19 05:28 PM

Hi!

Rilla 23-Jan-19 08:45 PM

Is it possible to make a server, not been shown in the master server? Only connect via direct ip?

Fudgy 23-Jan-19 08:49 PM

sv_register 0

in the .cfg or in f2 rcon

Rilla 23-Jan-19 08:54 PM

thx

Shelzy Mogolico 24-Jan-19 12:08 AM

I have a problem when hosting a server, I get an error from the master server, I have sv_register 1 and the firewall is disabled but I get that error, I can only connect in a lan

ReiTW 24-Jan-19 12:56 AM

a lan? lol

did you open ports?

@Shelzy Mogolico

Shelzy Mogolico 24-Jan-19 12:57 AM

yep

i tried change ports but i dont have a solution

heinrich5991 24-Jan-19 01:03 AM

@Shelzy Mogolico try https://portforward.com/

slinacK 24-Jan-19 01:38 AM

@Sonix anything new in mapping?

WhoCares 24-Jan-19 07:47 AM

Dune 24-Jan-19 10:02 AM

@Shelzy Mogolico firewall isn't enough

Shelzy Mogolico 24-Jan-19 02:57 PM

It is no longer a problem, the god of Rei helped me and I solve it xd

same thanks

Thee00 24-Jan-19 03:20 PM

Joined the server.

Hey guys

I'm new to TW and wanted to find a dc server for it

Dune 24-Jan-19 03:33 PM

dc?

ChillerDragon 24-Jan-19 03:36 PM

mby discord?

Dune 24-Jan-19 03:37 PM

maybe the US state?

ChillerDragon 24-Jan-19 03:39 PM

xd

Shelzy Mogolico 24-Jan-19 03:39 PM

xD

ChillerDragon 24-Jan-19 03:39 PM

@Thee00 send help we have no idea what ur talkin about

Dune 24-Jan-19 03:39 PM

diet coke?

Shelzy Mogolico 24-Jan-19 03:39 PM

HAHAHAHA

ChillerDragon 24-Jan-19 03:40 PM

dune coder

Dune 24-Jan-19 03:40 PM

dirt cheap?

Shelzy Mogolico 24-Jan-19 03:47 PM

my little tumor died

Thee00 24-Jan-19 05:22 PM

I'm bak

I meant dying cat

5

Discord btw

Wait

Who are the devs other than dune?

Not on the server

Dune 24-Jan-19 05:40 PM

wb, @Thee00

please avoid large image macros

You can find a list of contributors at https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/graphs/contributors

[MOD] Foot/TeeBall (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Oy is the main dev

As FOSS, there are few privileges other than that of maintainer

Thee00 24-Jan-19 06:06 PM

ipoopi 24-Jan-19 09:07 PM

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cagih 25-Jan-19 04:03 PM

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🥀Thomus🥀 25-Jan-19 06:50 PM

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Sonix 26-Jan-19 06:21 PM

@slinacK not much, waiting for 0.8 plans to crystallize

Fudgy 26-Jan-19 06:23 PM

are there official LMS maps?

Dune 26-Jan-19 06:28 PM

lms1

(kukurice)

Sonix 26-Jan-19 06:53 PM

2 more will follow in 0.8

Dune 26-Jan-19 06:55 PM

huh, why does it need a major version?

Sonix 26-Jan-19 06:56 PM

timing

Fudgy 26-Jan-19 07:00 PM

lms came out in 0.7 so releasing the maps in 0.7 makes sense tho

Elysiox 27-Jan-19 12:21 AM

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slinacK 28-Jan-19 08:34 PM

How does the new ninja work in this scenario of no in-game skin change?

Dune 28-Jan-19 10:16 PM

it's a special skin applied when you have the ninja weapon

I think it has always been that way

jxsl13 28-Jan-19 10:33 PM

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Thee00 30-Jan-19 05:16 PM

So uh. What kind of launchers are there, what do most people use/what shouls I play TW on?

Dune 30-Jan-19 05:18 PM

Steam or standalone

Thee00 30-Jan-19 05:31 PM

I meant something like ddnet launcher

But should I use that

Or stick to vanilla first?

Sonix 30-Jan-19 06:28 PM

Ddnet client isnt compatible with 0.7

Dune 30-Jan-19 06:46 PM

I don't know what you mean with launcher. Modified client?

Zargon 30-Jan-19 11:47 PM

ddnet forbidden 0.7 dream

like if u cri

ReiTW 31-Jan-19 02:32 AM

@Zargon not really, they are just waiting, well they said no but some of them are just asking themself if migrating to 0.7 is a good thing, since they doesn't see any "negative" commits since 0.7.1, so maybe one day it will move or never, we don't know

Zargon 31-Jan-19 04:24 AM

Aha! Then one day, maybe

okmine 31-Jan-19 02:04 PM

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PsychoGod/Миха 02-Feb-19 08:11 PM

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Yi- 04-Feb-19 07:46 PM

Joined the server.

Slayer *gV* 05-Feb-19 09:02 PM

Is there a way to reset all server settings to pure, like you can do with the tunings?

Dune 05-Feb-19 09:05 PM

no

Spoki4 05-Feb-19 09:13 PM

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Slayer *gV* 05-Feb-19 09:22 PM

thx for the quick answer

Shelzy Mogolico 06-Feb-19 01:14 AM

Can someone send me a kog config for my server?

Slayer *gV* 06-Feb-19 03:21 PM

Is there any limit for pickups that I may place on a map until the server collapses?

Dune 06-Feb-19 03:26 PM

src/engine/shared/snapshot.cpp:550: dbg_assert(m_NumItems < MAX_ITEMS, "too many items"); src/engine/shared/snapshot.h:118: MAX_ITEMS = 1024

could be that

Slayer *gV* 06-Feb-19 03:47 PM

Uh yes.

The client will pretty much stop rendering.

When going into an area with more than 1024 items...

I was more concerned about the server performance

Fisico 06-Feb-19 07:58 PM

our mod "Domination" has been released https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122654#p122654 (edited)

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PsychoGod/Миха 06-Feb-19 10:42 PM

hey there for what we need .mm files in osx? why we changed normally .m for .mm

Dune 06-Feb-19 11:05 PM

Hey

iirc .mm is for C++

🤠Anvil 07-Feb-19 09:49 AM

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Slayer *gV* 08-Feb-19 09:13 PM

Within the teeworlds editor, is there a way to reduce the saturation of a tilelayer (image)?

Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ 09-Feb-19 03:17 PM

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MrCosmo 09-Feb-19 03:17 PM

Joined the server.

timakro 09-Feb-19 07:55 PM

does anyone have the patch for Teeball by fun elefant which patches greyfox's Foot mod? https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8638 Link at the end of this post is dead

[MOD] Foot/TeeBall (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

LordSk 09-Feb-19 09:07 PM

@Slayer *gV* no

Slayer *gV* 10-Feb-19 07:38 PM

@LordSk Too bad, would have come handy. But I guess that was a very special case anyway :D Thanks for your help!

Lady Saavik 10-Feb-19 11:38 PM

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Silex 11-Feb-19 11:56 AM

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PatrykP 11-Feb-19 10:57 PM

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Cecily 12-Feb-19 01:02 AM

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Skayland 12-Feb-19 11:24 PM

A lot of people is joining this last days

Fudgy 13-Feb-19 12:24 AM

Silex 13-Feb-19 02:05 AM

bb

PatrykP 13-Feb-19 01:04 PM

tune player_collision 0 disable "start" and "end" tile. it is bug on simpleDDRace/Race?

Dune 13-Feb-19 01:06 PM

looks like a race bug. not something from teeworlds either way Edit: fixed it (edited)

PatrykP 13-Feb-19 01:06 PM

k

Skayland 14-Feb-19 12:16 AM

What is the min connection i need to host a vanilla server?

2kb/sec?

Dune 14-Feb-19 12:19 AM

it's light on bandwidth. usually the problem is the latency / the number of connections at one time

it's hard to give numbers

Skayland 14-Feb-19 12:26 AM

And what about ram per player?

Fudgy 14-Feb-19 04:28 AM

I dont think a player adds much RAM usage

Im sure with ~10Mb of ram you can run a 64 player server, teeworlds doesnt take much.

Skayland 14-Feb-19 07:05 AM

nice

jxsl13 14-Feb-19 12:37 PM

our beloved website is down: teeworlds.com

Dune 14-Feb-19 01:19 PM

yes

Fudgy 14-Feb-19 01:34 PM

thats a first

Dune 14-Feb-19 01:35 PM

nah, it's been down for a while here and then, same error iirc

ChRIstMas`iPro 14-Feb-19 03:09 PM

when will it be on again

or

will it be on again

jxsl13 14-Feb-19 03:10 PM

discourse docker container

ChRIstMas`iPro 14-Feb-19 03:25 PM

tahw tiaw

wait what

Skayland 14-Feb-19 08:24 PM

Android version will never be updated again, right?

Dune 14-Feb-19 09:19 PM

There is no official Android support, so it's up to the content creators. Haven't seen news on the Android side for long so probably not

PatrykP 14-Feb-19 09:45 PM

for me android version is a funny joke. This port looks like running on desktop emulator. everything is made for mouse and keyboard and ui also is for big screen :P

Skayland 14-Feb-19 10:21 PM

there is some people that still use the android version

well, not an android version, its actually just a port

Slayer *gV* 15-Feb-19 09:02 AM

I was close to report this post as spam. Then i realized that it is none and Dune already edited it. But damn, the first row looks totally like. :D https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122682#p122682

@Dune Imho you should add a short info that you snipped at the end of the posts. Eventually with some explanation. Iirc it was done like this in the past.

WhiteKitty 15-Feb-19 12:21 PM

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jxsl13 15-Feb-19 08:17 PM

just wtf... reopening years old topics

they took my bridge communication rights from me

savages!

WhiteKitty 15-Feb-19 08:20 PM

Will someone help me with coding?

jxsl13 15-Feb-19 08:26 PM

I think ppl will help with more precise questions.

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Dune 15-Feb-19 10:24 PM

@jxsl13 you joined last month and never requested them? either way, restored that for you

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𝕃𝕊ℙXxVendeTamalesNazixX𝕃𝕊ℙ 16-Feb-19 05:49 AM

Joined the server.

Skayland 16-Feb-19 06:04 AM

welcome

ItzVenoxh 16-Feb-19 08:43 PM

Joined the server.

PatrykP 16-Feb-19 09:50 PM

is sth wrong with master servers? im looking at statistics and it looks good, but for my tw server, master1 and master3 are not responding :/

Dune 16-Feb-19 09:51 PM

0.6 or 0.7?

master3.teeworlds.com should be down, but master1.teeworlds.com looks fine

PatrykP 16-Feb-19 09:54 PM

0.7

[5c68796d][engine/mastersrv]: refreshing master server addresses [5c68796d][register]: refreshing ip addresses [5c68796d][engine/mastersrv]: saving addresses [5c68796d][register]: fetching server counts [5c687970][register]: chose 'master3.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats [5c6879ac][register]: WARNING: Master server is not responding, switching master [5c6879ac][engine/mastersrv]: refreshing master server addresses [5c6879ac][register]: refreshing ip addresses [5c6879ac][engine/mastersrv]: saving addresses [5c6879ac][register]: fetching server counts [5c6879af][register]: chose 'master1.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats [5c6879eb][register]: WARNING: Master server is not responding, switching master

:/

is posible i got banned? :P

Dune 16-Feb-19 10:01 PM

no

probably just some temporary trouble ^^

PatrykP 16-Feb-19 10:01 PM

k

thanks for help i will w8

Dune 16-Feb-19 10:02 PM

can't you connect to other masterservers?

PatrykP 16-Feb-19 10:02 PM

server picks only 3 and 1

Dune 16-Feb-19 10:03 PM

huh, that could be a port forwarding/firewall issue? (edited)

PatrykP 16-Feb-19 10:05 PM

yesterday everythink works

hmm

but im updeted software, ok i will check, thanks

Dune 16-Feb-19 10:06 PM

I get

[5c687b47][register]: refreshing ip addresses [5c687b47][engine/mastersrv]: saving addresses [5c687b47][register]: fetching server counts [5c687b4a][register]: chose 'master3.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats [5c687b4c][register]: no firewall/nat problems detected [5c687b4c][register]: server registered

so masters seem fine to me

PatrykP 16-Feb-19 10:15 PM

hmm, i dont know, today i had problems with nividia driver so maybe software update from yesterday also change sth with networking but all firewall i disabled and still. ok thanks for time but for now i wanna do sth other than fixing my connection with master. (Also i can't ping - 100% loss, but http website of master3 shows me stats) (edited)

Dune 16-Feb-19 10:16 PM

I can ping master1.teeworlds.com

PatrykP 16-Feb-19 10:16 PM

w8

ok i also can ping 1

Dune 16-Feb-19 10:16 PM

3 probably disabled ping

PatrykP 16-Feb-19 10:16 PM

yea

also i saw bug master3 server is not responding, switching master and then switch to master3 again, and again it can choose the same master multiple times

klenha 17-Feb-19 06:02 PM

hey bois

0.7 is horrible (sorry but yeah)

its not right teeworlds like teeworlds

tees are destroyed by that update

Fudgy 17-Feb-19 06:06 PM

ye skin system changed but I dont see any destruction

Dune 17-Feb-19 06:22 PM

any constructive feedback about issues you would like to see addressed is welcome, @klenha

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klenha 17-Feb-19 06:30 PM

yeah, its changed, but its not teeworlds like it was.

teeworlds singleplayer? no, teeworlds useless menu and crappy skins? ye

yeah its shitty, but i still play 0.6

jxsl13 17-Feb-19 06:57 PM

I have the consern that the UI/UX became worse, thus not playing 0.7 at all. The choice every time you start the client, whether you want to map, search the browsers or whatever just cripples the user experience, it should instantly go to the server browser. An option to change that behavior would be great.

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Fudgy 17-Feb-19 06:58 PM

there's already an option to go straight to browser at startup...

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and what does teeworlds singleplayer mean?

Sharok 17-Feb-19 10:53 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 17-Feb-19 11:02 PM

Welcome, @Sharok

Sharok 17-Feb-19 11:02 PM

ty

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Thee00 18-Feb-19 12:19 PM

Hey

klenha 18-Feb-19 01:55 PM

HI

why allthehaxx is banned on kog?

Fudgy 18-Feb-19 02:37 PM

Ask on kog server, not on this server lol

ChillerDragon 18-Feb-19 03:03 PM

because ath is considered a cheat client

Dune 18-Feb-19 04:22 PM

I used your material to refresh your automapper tutorial for 0.7, btw, @jxsl13. Thanks!

Dune 19-Feb-19 06:03 PM

hey. Some twitch developer/streamer is doing Teeworlds right now! Implementing gamepad support and explaining what he does. Check him out at https://www.twitch.tv/tsoding

Tsoding - Twitch

C++

mmph 19-Feb-19 08:27 PM

Joined the server.

Monkeeyju 19-Feb-19 10:07 PM

HELP ME PLS HOW TO MAKE VANILLA SERVER

Fudgy 19-Feb-19 11:23 PM

how to run it?

jxsl13 19-Feb-19 11:29 PM

Yeah, sure thing.. already forgot how it works.

Dune 19-Feb-19 11:43 PM

double click teeworlds_srv.exe ? :)

Monkeeyju 20-Feb-19 12:27 AM

no bro

i necesite vanilla blue vs red

@Dune

PatrykP 20-Feb-19 02:55 AM

@Monkeeyju you are on Windows or Linux?

Open folder with teeworlds_srv Hold shift and click right mouse button on empty space and choose option "open terminal here" (or command line). On Windows: Type teeworlds_srv.exe On Linux: Type ./teeworlds_srv

Btw when you double click on this file then server starts but it have no GUI so you don't see anything

Fudgy 20-Feb-19 03:02 AM

yes but his problem is he wants ctf

teeworlds_srv is dm by default

you need to change gamemode in f2 or a config file

to do it in f2 he needs to write a rcon password in the server config file

PatrykP 20-Feb-19 03:03 AM

yes

or create file named autoexec.cfg and type sv_gametype ctf

heinrich5991 20-Feb-19 03:06 AM

or type: teeworlds_srv.exe "sv_gametype ctf"

PatrykP 20-Feb-19 03:11 AM

oo, its usefull

Dune 20-Feb-19 11:56 AM

I always test ingame features with ./teeworlds "connect ." :) (edited)

Monkeeyju 20-Feb-19 06:52 PM

@PatrykP private me

MohamedAkram 22-Feb-19 12:00 AM

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Xusep 22-Feb-19 11:07 AM

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krooked 22-Feb-19 02:06 PM

hey guys, can sb of you recommend a client that lets you see the k/d in the scoreboard?

for 0.6 though

Dune 22-Feb-19 02:06 PM

any client that includes teecomp, so most of them

ChillerDragon 22-Feb-19 02:57 PM

there is a statboard in ddnet client or does it has to be in scoreboard?

Dune 22-Feb-19 03:00 PM

that's teecomp, @ChillerDragon

ChillerDragon 22-Feb-19 04:46 PM

ah. I actually know almost nothing about it. I think a saw a few screens and found it today in ddnet src code

Dune 22-Feb-19 05:03 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3913, it was ported to 0.6 through sushi's client pack :) (edited)

[CLIENT] TeeComp (Page 1) — Fan Art and Other — Teeworlds Forum

[CLIENT] TeeComp (Page 1) — Fan Art and Other — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

natchies 24-Feb-19 07:06 PM

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zupopp 26-Feb-19 09:31 AM

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MarisaG 27-Feb-19 08:48 AM

Joined the server.

Hi everyone!

Anyone tell me how to add maps to my server?

do i just copy them into the maps folder?

MarisaG 27-Feb-19 09:00 AM

Im also collecting maps at my website as many of them in for forum seem to be dead or not responding anymore or are using shady file hosting servers

Dune 27-Feb-19 09:11 AM

Yes, just copy them and they can be set on your server by command

MarisaG 27-Feb-19 09:13 AM

thanks! will give it a try

Dune 27-Feb-19 09:52 AM

If you have a map for which there is a broken topic link, please link it again on the topic :)

As for collecting maps there is http://heinrich5991.de/

heinrich5991 27-Feb-19 10:02 AM

https://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/maps/maps/

@MarisaG if you have a collection of maps, I'd be happy to add them there

MarisaG 27-Feb-19 10:04 AM

i only have what was there so far, but many of them got errors... Working on a script to create voting links for the maps. Will post it when done...

Dune 27-Feb-19 10:06 AM

Errors?

Race maps must be ported to 0.7. There are scripts for that

MarisaG 27-Feb-19 12:15 PM

errors in that they would not allow me to download them...

Ok, I have my add maps script ready. Here is description & link:

This tool will scan your maps folder and create a config file with voting options for all the maps in your maps folder. You can use this to rebuild your config after adding maps to your server. Only tested on Linux servers. You can get it here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/teeworlds-add-maps-utility and if you have any questions just ask me! (edited)

Teeworlds Add Maps Utility

Download Teeworlds Add Maps Utility for free. Creates a config file with voting links for all the maps. Creates a config file with voting links for all the maps in your maps folder. Players will be able to vote to play all the maps you have.

Dune 27-Feb-19 12:18 PM

Thanks for sharing

MarisaG 27-Feb-19 12:19 PM

MarisaG 27-Feb-19 01:23 PM

Added a link to this discord on gameplayer.club... Randomly gets shown at the foot of every page

眼睛疲劳 27-Feb-19 01:46 PM

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guenstig werben 27-Feb-19 03:47 PM

@MarisaG why not github?

MarisaG 27-Feb-19 04:16 PM

I do have the repos in github, but prefer to post the official releases to sourceforge

Makes it easier to track number of downloads etc

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timakro 27-Feb-19 08:01 PM

For a teeworlds map how to find out if its a 0.7 map and the 0.7 external mapres should be used or if its a 0.6 map?

Dune 27-Feb-19 08:03 PM

I don't think there is any obvious way. Maybe @redix or @heinrich5991 can think of one

There is a tool to convert 0.6 maps to 0.7 so you don't have to make it embedded either way

TheDankSpyHexxy 28-Feb-19 05:00 AM

Joined the server.

Hey

ChillerDragon 28-Feb-19 11:45 AM

it would be cool tho to save the version of the client that saved the map. And maybe even display it in mapinfo. No only tlaking about major version but also about minor ones. Maybe it could help debugging somewhen

Thee00 28-Feb-19 06:44 PM

Help I'm having client-side lag

Like the game runs with 1500 Fps and my ping is usually 20-40 even though my character lags

any fix?

Dune 28-Feb-19 07:06 PM

That is strange. Tried fullscreen? Dual monitor does this sometimes

Thee00 28-Feb-19 07:09 PM

I do have dual monitors and if I know right I am using fullscreen

Thee00 28-Feb-19 07:20 PM

I tried windowed, borderless window and fullscreen but still lags

Dune 28-Feb-19 07:53 PM

ctrl+shift+d ctrl+shift+g

prediction errors or FPS spikes?

Thee00 28-Feb-19 08:58 PM

Nope

as I can see

heinrich5991 01-Mar-19 10:19 AM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1147

Include a Image CRC for external images in the map files · Issue ...

This would make it a lot easier to check whether map has 0.5 vs 0.6 vs 0.7 grass tiles and that stuff.

@Dune no, there's not. the above issue would fix that. you could probably get quite far using statistical methods

Dune 01-Mar-19 10:20 AM

I see, thanks :)

WhiteKitty 01-Mar-19 05:46 PM

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nuborn 05-Mar-19 12:22 PM

Joined the server.

cagih 06-Mar-19 05:14 PM

siemaneczko

co tam mordeczki

Dune 06-Mar-19 05:27 PM

hello, this is an english-only channel

cagih 06-Mar-19 05:44 PM

@Jesus Christ

Jesus Christ 06-Mar-19 05:44 PM

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na dicordzie ddneta

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xdd

Dune 06-Mar-19 05:44 PM

english, last time

Jesus Christ 06-Mar-19 05:45 PM

oh sorry i thought its our private group

cagih 06-Mar-19 05:45 PM

xdd

Agressor 07-Mar-19 12:21 AM

Joined the server.

kohaiberry 07-Mar-19 01:08 PM

Joined the server.

Thee00 07-Mar-19 10:27 PM

Can anyone help?

I'm lagging af even though my ping is around 40 and I have 1500 fps

I have two monitors

and the prediction margin looks weird

any fix?

Dune 07-Mar-19 10:28 PM

try gfx_fullscreen 1

Thee00 07-Mar-19 10:28 PM

okay

Dune 07-Mar-19 10:29 PM

I also lag in teeworlds without fullscreen, for the record, because of dual monitors

Thee00 07-Mar-19 10:29 PM

Launch options?

Dune 07-Mar-19 10:29 PM

Sorry?

Thee00 07-Mar-19 10:29 PM

where should I place this gfx_fullscreen 1?

Dune 07-Mar-19 10:29 PM

f1 console

Thee00 07-Mar-19 10:30 PM

oh

lol

Dune 07-Mar-19 10:30 PM

or just check Fullscreen in Settings > Graphics

Thee00 07-Mar-19 10:32 PM

still lagging

:/

holymadman 09-Mar-19 10:51 AM

Joined the server.

Thee00 09-Mar-19 03:16 PM

Still

lagging af

PatrykP 09-Mar-19 05:29 PM

For me helps computer restart, but I know it isn't good solution

Also when I have lags (60fps, 20ms) then teeworlds uses ~90% CPU

Thee00 09-Mar-19 07:06 PM

This always lags

so a restart won't help

and it is not using a lot of cpu

1500 fps 30~40 ms ping

WhiteKitty 10-Mar-19 03:35 PM

Joined the server.

Thee00 10-Mar-19 04:58 PM

It's really fuc*ing annoying and I can't do anything about it?

Any fix?

Fudgy 10-Mar-19 06:04 PM

I never heard of someone lagging on teeworlds, especially with 1500fps so I have no idea

PatrykP 10-Mar-19 06:04 PM

how about RAM?

maybe problem is with swap partition (swap files)

Dune 10-Mar-19 06:07 PM

doubtful given the size of teeworlds

might want to open the resource monitor and check disk access but I doubt it's that

PatrykP 10-Mar-19 06:19 PM

for me its look like stops because teeworlds need to w8 for data from swap files. System uses RAM for other stuff and needs to move some data to disc and teeworlds need to w8.

now teeworlds works good for me so i cant check this

Dune 10-Mar-19 06:22 PM

I have those lags when I play high resolution on a dual monitor and it's not RAM

PatrykP 10-Mar-19 06:22 PM

but this lags are random, sometimes i have a lot of stuff in background and teeworlds works fine, some times i just start system and i have laggs with 60fps. on tw 6 on Windows i dont had this problem. Maybe is sth with linux build or with tw7

Dune 10-Mar-19 06:22 PM

teeworlds is 70k that's nothing

PatrykP 10-Mar-19 06:22 PM

hmm

i run tw in 1440x900 in window (also dual monitor)

idk Thee00 just reinstal tw (also remove teeworlds data folder) its always works

Dune 10-Mar-19 06:26 PM

that won't do anything

PatrykP 10-Mar-19 06:27 PM

i know just joking

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 06:33 PM

Joined the server.

yo help i'm trying to run a teeworlds executable that i compiled using the source code from github but apparently i keep getting this error

i have freetype and sdl2 installed on my PC.

Dune 10-Mar-19 06:37 PM

32bit/64bit issues or debug/release

you might have the wrong version of the SDL dll?

32bit/64bit

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 06:37 PM

i literally put sdl2.dll in both system32 and syswow64.

and i was compiling the game for x86_64 debug (edited)

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 06:59 PM

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10492037/the-application-was-unable-to-start-correctly-0xc000007b

The application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b)

I have a client/server app which I have been developing on a single PC. Now it needs two serial ports, so I borrowed a PC from a friend. When I build my app and try to run or debug it (whether in ...

have you compiled for 64 bit? try that if you haven't

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 07:01 PM

i did compile for 64bit though

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 07:03 PM

the link says that it might happen if you mix executables and dlls for different architectures

do you understand the instructions they give that should help debugging it?

Dune 10-Mar-19 07:06 PM

maybe the sdl2.dll is a 32bit DLL?

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 07:13 PM

i'll check

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 07:41 PM

oopsie doopsie

it seems that i forgot to install these dependencies

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 07:51 PM

these do not look like dependencies of teeworlds

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 07:51 PM

oh.

though those are the dependencies for sdl2

Dune 10-Mar-19 08:00 PM

can you try with the 64bit SDL2.dll?

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 08:13 PM

i downloaded the 64 bit sdl2.dll and put it in syswow64 but apparently it still displays that same goddamn error

Dune 10-Mar-19 08:13 PM

just put it in the folder of teeworlds.exe, to avoid conflicts and what not

I don't know how windows handles two SDL2.dll available..

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 08:14 PM

yea, remove it from the windows directories

it's probably not a good idea to put it there

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 09:08 PM

i got it to work

now wait, is this bam error good or is it bad lmao

Fudgy 10-Mar-19 09:10 PM

so close lol

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 09:11 PM

but the compiled teeworlds seems to work perfectly

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 09:13 PM

type bam agian

and show the error plz

Dune 10-Mar-19 09:28 PM

@Fudgy bam doesn't stop on error unless you use -a

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 09:42 PM

i did it again

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 09:51 PM

jfc.

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 09:57 PM

have you modified the source?

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 09:58 PM

yeah i did.

i only changed this

and this too

aa

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 10:10 PM

what line is 373?

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 10:13 PM

oops i realized my mistake

i didn't declare a custom variable

now it's working.

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 10:20 PM

cool

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 10:20 PM

however i'm still trying to set up a server just for me to test my mod

yet for some reason dm1 does not exist whatsoever

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 10:22 PM

hmmmm

is it in the data/maps/ folder?

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 10:23 PM

maps is empty

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 10:23 PM

ah

how did you download the source?

git?

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 10:24 PM

yep

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 10:24 PM

then do git submodule update --init

Dune 10-Mar-19 10:25 PM

@KoleOBlack git submodule update --init

oops

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 10:25 PM

wait where do i write that

heinrich5991 10-Mar-19 10:25 PM

right there

where you executed bam

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 10:25 PM

ok

Dune 10-Mar-19 10:25 PM

go to there using the git console

wait, you didn't use git?

you downloaded it from github?

you can just copy paste the data/maps folder from your teeworlds game

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 10:28 PM

ah

KoleOBlack 10-Mar-19 10:36 PM

thanks

cursed shotgun

Jeroen 10-Mar-19 10:58 PM

Joined the server.

KoleOBlack 11-Mar-19 08:36 AM

where exactly do i make the bullets not follow gravity?

KoleOBlack 11-Mar-19 11:16 AM

and is teeworlds server hosting through port forwarded VM possible?

Dune 11-Mar-19 12:31 PM

yes

KoleOBlack 11-Mar-19 12:32 PM

also, what exactly makes the bullets follow gravity?

heinrich5991 11-Mar-19 04:52 PM

@KoleOBlack tune shotgun_curvature 0

KoleOBlack 11-Mar-19 06:35 PM

Thanks

KoleOBlack 12-Mar-19 09:45 PM

is character.cpp serverside or clientside?

Dune 12-Mar-19 10:08 PM

where did you find this file, @KoleOBlack

heinrich5991 12-Mar-19 10:12 PM

character.cpp as located in src/game/server/entities/character.cpp is server-side

Dune 12-Mar-19 10:12 PM

that was my point

KoleOBlack 12-Mar-19 11:17 PM

wait how do i make projectiles spawn other projectiles

heinrich5991 12-Mar-19 11:25 PM

on death?

or when?

KoleOBlack 12-Mar-19 11:46 PM

on each frame

heinrich5991 13-Mar-19 12:04 AM

check the OnTick function of projectiles I guess and create more there

note that uncontrolled spawning of projectiles is probably not going to work ^^

Dune 14-Mar-19 05:45 PM

@Thee00 tried disabling vsync?

Thee00 14-Mar-19 06:00 PM

It was already off

hamboro 15-Mar-19 07:36 PM

Joined the server.

Nosssi 16-Mar-19 04:30 PM

Joined the server.

Pirovideo 17-Mar-19 09:25 AM

Joined the server.

Hi

heinrich5991 17-Mar-19 12:48 PM

hi

Dune 17-Mar-19 12:49 PM

hey

Pirovideo 17-Mar-19 12:58 PM

How are you

Thee00 17-Mar-19 08:42 PM

yes

MertenNor 19-Mar-19 10:24 AM

Hi

Themix 19-Mar-19 08:31 PM

Joined the server.

☫σяεσ 21-Mar-19 02:27 AM

If u hit esc the chat disappears, why?

heinrich5991 21-Mar-19 02:38 AM

so you can get back to playing?

Dune 21-Mar-19 08:20 AM

he means in the menus i think

Delirio 21-Mar-19 06:11 PM

Joined the server.

☫σяεσ 21-Mar-19 11:14 PM

i mean when u are in a game and mb everyone is chatting, than u want to leave for whatever reason, hit esc move your mouse to close the game, but then u hear the chat sound and cant see what someone wrote (maybe its just "bb" but who knows xD) its like having a notification light on your phone and u dont know what it is

u could ofc disable the chat sound aswell, when u dont see it anymore, that would work too

PatrykP 22-Mar-19 12:44 AM

+1 i'm also have same problem. When I hit ESC to close game and someone just write sth then I must read this message :P

Thee00 23-Mar-19 12:20 AM

I am still lagging

cagih 24-Mar-19 12:08 AM

@jao unban me

Fekah 25-Mar-19 05:50 AM

Joined the server.

parctikl 26-Mar-19 09:08 AM

Joined the server.

Pirovideo 26-Mar-19 05:03 PM

Hi

Valeek 26-Mar-19 05:13 PM

Joined the server.

Valeek 26-Mar-19 05:53 PM

Hey Guys. I have a question. Does the Teeworld Launcher from Steam work? Because I tryed to start it 2 Times already and nothing happend

Dune 26-Mar-19 05:54 PM

@Valeek it's supposed to work

let's troubleshoot then. - what is your OS? win10 etc. - did you ever play Teeworlds?

(as in, did you ever successfully launch on this machine)

Valeek 26-Mar-19 05:57 PM

I have a Laptop with Windows 10 on it. I have not played on this Laptop yet. And no. It have not Launched successfully even after trying to download it from the Hopepage www.Teeworlds.com

Dune 26-Mar-19 05:59 PM

ah, so it's not a steam problem

good

in order to understand what happens we would need the console log

it's not too intuitive if you've never done it on win10 though

Can you launch it within a command prompt? Win+R -> type cmd -> use cd directory to navigate to the teeworlds directory, then launch teeworlds with teeworlds -c

I don't think we have any more user friendly way to debug

Valeek 26-Mar-19 06:07 PM

thanks. i will try it. i just dont have time right now to do it. have a good afternoon :^)

Dune 26-Mar-19 06:09 PM

okay :)

Valeek 27-Mar-19 12:19 PM

well i tryed it but it did not worked. everytime i tryed to open it is says "System Error-----...VCRUNTIME140.dll was not found".

Dune 27-Mar-19 12:27 PM

@Valeek please try win64 or win32 (the version you have not tried)

Valeek 27-Mar-19 12:28 PM

i have tryed both. and since im using windows i dont think the linux or mac installer would work

Dune 27-Mar-19 12:29 PM

No it won't

Both have the same error huh

Well it's strange, I'll look for a solution

teini94 27-Mar-19 12:35 PM

if u open editor with f1 you only can move your normal mouse (cant click stuff) # you can if u out and retab into the game again. (edited)

Dune 27-Mar-19 01:27 PM

@teini94 steps to reproduce?

teini94 27-Mar-19 01:30 PM

@Dune f1 cl_editor 1 Alt + Tabulator (to get to your desktop) then again. to get into tw again

Dune 27-Mar-19 01:35 PM

never knew cl_editor was even a thing (edited)

I use ctrl+shift+e or the menus

Thee00 27-Mar-19 11:07 PM

And I am still lagging

I've been asking for help for weeks

still no answer

Dune 27-Mar-19 11:37 PM

several people tried, @Thee00. I'm out of ideas

it's difficult to troubleshoot when we can't reproduce

Thee00 27-Mar-19 11:41 PM

I can show you all my in-game settings and outside of the game settings to help reproduce the problem and find out how to solve it

but gtg slip now

gn

Dune 27-Mar-19 11:42 PM

but resetting your settings did not fix it, right?

Thee00 27-Mar-19 11:42 PM

I will try

even reinstalling the game

Dune 27-Mar-19 11:43 PM

if removing settings.cfg does not help, that means the settings are not enough for us to reproduce the issue

the settings are stored externally of the game install

parctikl 28-Mar-19 12:53 AM

hello, could I ask a question in terms of troubleshooting here?

heinrich5991 28-Mar-19 12:59 AM

we should be outputting an stdout.txt file like most sdl games do

so we don't have to send people through the console on windows ^^

Fudgy 28-Mar-19 03:51 AM

@parctikl what kind of troubleshoot

Dune 28-Mar-19 10:42 AM

Yeah @heinrich5991

parctikl 29-Mar-19 05:24 AM

my friend has this problem where the screen resolution for him isn't big enough/take the whole screen when in full screen, so when he changes it to the 1920 x 1080 size which is his screen size, once he restarts the game the game automatically reverts bact to the original resolution.

MarisaG 29-Mar-19 08:33 AM

Hmm, i have it running on one server but on my new one I cant start the server up. I'm using the latest Linux versions, and I get a error like this:

[5c9dca5b][engine]: running on unix-linux-amd64 [5c9dca5b][engine]: arch is little endian [5c9dca5b][storage]: added path '$USERDIR' ('/root/.local/share/teeworlds') [5c9dca5b][storage]: added path '$DATADIR' ('data') [5c9dca5b][storage]: added path '$CURRENTDIR' ('/root/twserver') [5c9dca5b][storage]: added path '$APPDIR' ('.') [5c9dca5b][storage]: unable to create save directory [5c9dca5b][storage]: initialisation failed [5c9dca5b][kernel]: ERROR: couldn't register interface storage. null pointer given

Oops!

It was that /root/.local/share/teeworlds directory not existing. Sorry to bother

Dune 29-Mar-19 10:38 AM

@parctikl i assume he gets 640x480 ?

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:41 PM

does removing settings.cfg delete my skins, name, flag, clan?

@Dune

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 03:45 PM

not your skins

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:45 PM

o

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 03:46 PM

but name flag and clan yes

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:46 PM

And um

Like on ddrace servers I have records, do they get deleted or smth?

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 03:46 PM

your times?

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:46 PM

yes

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 03:46 PM

they are saved on ddnet servers, not your computer

you cant delete them yourself

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:47 PM

but if I change my name do they get deleted? Or stay the way they are now

welp I gotta try anyways

what

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 03:50 PM

I dont understand lol

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:50 PM

I haven't found the settings.cfg

only settings.png

is this like a steam version thingy

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 03:51 PM

I have no clue what settings.png is

never saw that

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:51 PM

but I haven't found a settings.cfg

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 03:51 PM

that file is in appdata/roaming/teeworlds normally

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:52 PM

oh

I am such a dummy

Dune 29-Mar-19 03:53 PM

create a backup, by renaming the file

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:54 PM

btw what does texture compression do?

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 03:56 PM

why are you talking about texture compression all of a sudden

Thee00 29-Mar-19 03:57 PM

Because I deleted settings.cfg and resetting my settings and I wanted to ask what that does cause I have no clue and no info about it in game

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 03:59 PM

you dont need to touch that imo

and why did you even delete that anyway

Thee00 29-Mar-19 04:00 PM

Dune said it cause I'm lagging as shit

and I tried deleting it

I hope it fixes it

Fudgy 29-Mar-19 04:02 PM

oh I see

Thee00 29-Mar-19 06:00 PM

I am still kind of lagging though

teini94 29-Mar-19 08:34 PM

@parctikl he may should try ddnet.tw 0.6 client and play in windowless mod, (and if he scaled his monitor size up , he could try to make it back to normal 100% instead 225%?)

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 11:37 AM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 12:00 PM

I played teeworlds capture the flag right now, and realized how much better I'd play with voicechat.

Never used one, but I don't have time to type anything.

Wish there was a video on youtube of that.

Dune 30-Mar-19 12:02 PM

well you can simply play with friends on discord? @Deleted User

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 12:04 PM

not like i have any

also I'd rather watch somebody play than play myself

Know any good gameplay videos on youtube? Everything I find is race and such, but that's not the main point of the game.

I realized that up and down don't do anything in this game, so I use these keys to shift weapons. My controls now are: s - left f - right v - hammer c - gun d - shotgun e - grenade z - railgun

Dune 30-Mar-19 12:11 PM

sateesfaction is nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-UY_26JqdU

TeeworldsRush

Teeworlds - Sateesfaction

Video made by Ubu. Music: Dakent - Banger Some stats about the video: - 95 demos were used - 271 demos were collected - 450 mo of demos - 19 different people...

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 12:11 PM

I found this music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muj6YZZnyuI , and thought "i really want to play teeworlds to it". It felt a bit slowpaced, I can't move fast enough. Interesting how it took 2 minutes to get this game running.

Lily Arciniega

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Overdrive (Instrumental recreation)

DL LINK: https://hearthis.at/9vnjlgxf/overdrivecover/download/ I wanted an instrumental of Overdrive so badly, that I thought "fuck it" and tried to create o...

Hm, looks like a frag movie. Shoot till you get lucky, and then make the movie out of the best parts. CTF is about strategy and knowing where your opponent is.

Dune 30-Mar-19 12:15 PM

I think those players aren't so much about luck :P

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 12:16 PM

Well, they are skilled. Skill + luck.

Dune 30-Mar-19 12:16 PM

There are CTF clanwars here and then but I don't think they upload videos with mic record

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 12:16 PM

Just videos are fine too.

Teamplay without voicechat, how do they do that?

Btw, maybe they upload demos?

I know the proper word now, "clanwars". I can google that.

Demos are probably even better, since I can see the entire field instead of just one player.

Dune 30-Mar-19 12:24 PM

You may want to ask that over at (edited)

it's the competitive vanilla Teeworlds discord

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 01:31 PM

i recorded a demo, can I change my point of view in the demo?

Dune 30-Mar-19 01:33 PM

no

you can only do that with server-side demos

that is a technical limitation

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 01:34 PM

hm, gonna make a server-side demo then...

let's make a server and hope people will join

ChillerDragon 30-Mar-19 01:38 PM

is it a ddnet feature that you can change the point of view lol? forgot that

and i didnt know there are serverside demos

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 01:55 PM

So I found sv_auto_demo_record

where does the server record demos?

Dune 30-Mar-19 02:40 PM

same as client, in %appdata%/teeworlds/demos

run the config_directory.bat to open the folder directly

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 03:00 PM

hm, it doesn't save anything for me. Maybe because I just close the server's window?

Dune 30-Mar-19 03:52 PM

demos are saved at the end of a match

you can shut down a server with the rcon command shutdown, that works too I guess

Fudgy 30-Mar-19 04:03 PM

anyone who knows more about movement code-wise can explain this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbbvMb7G8HQ

Im 'corneum TeeWorlds

What is this Teeworlds randomness?!

I think the point is pretty clear here, i just wanna know if this is fixable. I actually had to change the second part because it just wouldnt work anymore. ...

Dune 30-Mar-19 04:06 PM

@Fudgy that's strange, I don't know what would explain that

heinrich5991 30-Mar-19 04:06 PM

@Fudgy the problem is that we calculate with floating point numbers

this means that it gets more and more inaccurate the more we move away from the origin (0,0)

Dune 30-Mar-19 04:07 PM

collision has rounding errors?

heinrich5991 30-Mar-19 04:07 PM

just like minecraft, we ought to calculate everything with fixed-point numbers

https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Far_Lands#Floating_Point_Precision_Errors_.28X.2FZ:_.C2.B10.E2.80.93.C2.B12.2C147.2C483.2C519.29

Far Lands

The Far Lands were the area that formed the "edge" of the "infinite" world type in Java Edition versions prior to Beta 1.8. They are currently found in the Bedrock Edition.

Fudgy 30-Mar-19 04:08 PM

thats interesting

heinrich5991 30-Mar-19 04:08 PM

not rounding errors, but things that are rounded differently depending on how far we're away from the origin

Fudgy 30-Mar-19 04:09 PM

ye how floats work

heinrich5991 30-Mar-19 04:10 PM

is that a question or an explanation?

Fudgy 30-Mar-19 04:12 PM

no I understand

but still, I thought teeworlds maps are not huge enough to cause such movement differences

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 05:56 PM

[5c9f9f7d][register]: chose 'master3.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats [5c9f9fb9][register]: WARNING: Master server is not responding, switching master

i can play locally, but my server doesn't show up in the global list

Dune 30-Mar-19 05:57 PM

isn't that just the master3?

or are your ports/firewall not open?

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 05:57 PM

same with master1

probably not open

Dune 30-Mar-19 05:58 PM

then yeah

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_setup

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 06:10 PM

port 8303 TCP or UDP?

PatrykP 30-Mar-19 06:11 PM

I had same problem, for me helped restart router/modem

Port forwarding set to both (TCP and UDP)

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 06:14 PM

[5c9fa3e2][register]: chose 'master3.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats [5c9fa3e3][register]: no firewall/nat problems detected [5c9fa3e3][register]: server registered

Dune 30-Mar-19 06:14 PM

:)

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 06:16 PM

But my server still isn't in the list

Dune 30-Mar-19 06:16 PM

it is in the Local list

for you

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 06:16 PM

but others still see it?

Dune 30-Mar-19 06:16 PM

should

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 06:16 PM

Let's see...

It's called Hawdwin's Hut, if somebody wants to play

Deleted User 30-Mar-19 06:31 PM

yep, works, perfect

teini94 30-Mar-19 08:56 PM

@Deleted User well I am THE MASTER ROCK in this game. it works perfectly fine to play without mic. you can learn perfect team, frame management over time even without teamchat.

Fudgy 30-Mar-19 09:47 PM

frame management

2

Fudgy 30-Mar-19 11:06 PM

Is there a way to type an # in the motd with it ignoring it and what comes after?

nvm it works when you put the whole motd in between " "

Deleted User 31-Mar-19 10:00 AM

everyone but me just left the game simultaniously

xxx has left the game, timeout

strange

no replay as well

Dune 31-Mar-19 10:57 AM

you had connection issues, @Deleted User

Fudgy 01-Apr-19 05:18 AM

Is there a way to stay in spectator watching people play and not get kicked for inactivity lol

how do I stay active in spec

just write a random message every 3 minute?

Dune 01-Apr-19 09:49 AM

Move your mouse @Fudgy

And it depends on the server settings:/

teini94 01-Apr-19 10:44 AM

it was default settings back in the dayz like 2 month ago atleast

jxsl13 01-Apr-19 12:36 PM

the forum is full of spam, pls delete.

Dune 01-Apr-19 12:42 PM

only three spam posts? it's a slow day for bangladeshis

jxsl13 01-Apr-19 12:47 PM

(edited)

Savander 01-Apr-19 05:14 PM

Hey, I have to say, 2019 is tough

what's up guys

Fudgy 01-Apr-19 05:24 PM

getting back into working on race 0.7

anyone know why I cant seem to update sv_player_slots?

its stuck at 8 on my server :/

Dune 01-Apr-19 05:26 PM

@Fudgy because you need to set max_clients to a higher number than sv_player_slots

by default it is 8

Fudgy 01-Apr-19 05:27 PM

I set max_clients to 64 but I still cant change sv_player_slots (higher than 8) (edited)

teini94 01-Apr-19 06:41 PM

its weird that many people have to stay in spec in a more fulled ddr server

Dune 01-Apr-19 06:45 PM

You need to set that at start @Fudgy

Fudgy 01-Apr-19 06:46 PM

hmm ok

Dune 02-Apr-19 08:28 PM

Got recommendations for vector-based graphics editors for Teeworlds? https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=122864#p122864

coany 04-Apr-19 01:50 PM

Joined the server.

coany 04-Apr-19 02:05 PM

@teeslayer dm me pls c:

Dune 04-Apr-19 02:11 PM

teeslayer is not here afaik (edited)

coany 04-Apr-19 06:41 PM

you know his dc ID ? @Dune

Dune 04-Apr-19 06:41 PM

no

he's on IRC, though

coany 04-Apr-19 06:46 PM

IRC?

@Dune

Phlimy 05-Apr-19 09:45 PM

Joined the server.

Phlimy 06-Apr-19 12:06 AM

woah i just came back to the game from a while ago and all the servers are dead D:

Dune 06-Apr-19 12:11 AM

there were attacks on the 0.6 server, most people haven't switched to 0.7

Phlimy 06-Apr-19 12:14 AM

oh

Phlimy 06-Apr-19 12:23 AM

there isn't as a many people as there used to be, openfn is empty and it was my favorite mode :(

Dune 06-Apr-19 12:25 AM

there are a few people on the old version

Phlimy 06-Apr-19 12:26 AM

is it 0.6.3 ? i don't see anyone

Dune 06-Apr-19 12:28 AM

0.6.x, yes. I see like 4 servers

Fudgy 06-Apr-19 09:37 PM

First day I see 100+ players online on 0.7

Ze Robotico 07-Apr-19 01:22 AM

Joined the server.

Rynelf 07-Apr-19 02:35 AM

Joined the server.

Hello

Fudgy 07-Apr-19 02:45 AM

yo

Rynelf 07-Apr-19 02:45 AM

Ze Robotico 07-Apr-19 03:14 AM

hi

arbok 07-Apr-19 08:50 AM

Joined the server.

Guys, i need some of ur help, i downloaded tw 0.7.2 and it says that its not app of windows 32 bit, but i downloaded 32 bit version, what to do? 0.7.1 says the same, i have windows xp sp3, any advice?

Dune 07-Apr-19 11:13 AM

@arbok what is your OS? win32?

arbok 07-Apr-19 11:14 AM

@Dune yes

Dune 07-Apr-19 11:16 AM

Ah sorry you had mentioned xp

Hm, but it works with 0.6 right?

cracknotgood 07-Apr-19 11:20 AM

Joined the server.

partimic69 07-Apr-19 12:03 PM

Joined the server.

Destin 07-Apr-19 12:36 PM

Joined the server.

heinrich5991 07-Apr-19 01:54 PM

we didn't compile on xp I guess

Dune 07-Apr-19 01:56 PM

@heinrich5991 shouldn't win7 32bit apps work on xp? :/

heinrich5991 07-Apr-19 02:02 PM

no, you had to compile on old windows IIRC

I don't know how that relates to mingw/cross-compiling, but it was the case for MSVC/MSVS I think

Rynelf 07-Apr-19 03:18 PM

Wow windows xp

ChillerDragon 07-Apr-19 04:23 PM

@arbok i know thats not the answere you were looking for but you should upgrade your system. Windows xp is insecure o.O

Stan 07-Apr-19 10:35 PM

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arbok 08-Apr-19 02:05 AM

@Dune 0.6 works perfectly with xp, so u mean xp is too old for 0.7?

Dune 08-Apr-19 08:29 AM

@arbok somewhat. You could still run it on XP if you compiled from source on it, it's just that we compiled for win7 and + this time

arbok 08-Apr-19 11:22 AM

Well i m weak in programming, could u give me instructions in pm or sth? @Dune

Dune 08-Apr-19 11:23 AM

I don't know what hardships you would get on XP. There is a compiling guide in the docs: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=compiling_everything_windows

♫VoltΨ 08-Apr-19 01:07 PM

Joined the server.

arbok 08-Apr-19 02:08 PM

@Dune thx

Dune 08-Apr-19 03:14 PM

anyone from russia or eastern europe here to help? (not poland)

Savander 08-Apr-19 04:21 PM

Poland is Central Europe actually

Dune 08-Apr-19 04:21 PM

oh, well TIL :)

Savander 08-Apr-19 04:23 PM

ShootXen 09-Apr-19 08:45 AM

How far is 0.7.3 away

Dune 09-Apr-19 10:22 AM

Not far. I would say a week

LeseLamini 11-Apr-19 02:48 PM

Joined the server.

Dolphin 11-Apr-19 02:58 PM

Southeastern?

I mean.. does this position in Europe complete the requirements?

Dune 11-Apr-19 03:50 PM

yeah, thanks for your answer!

yavl 11-Apr-19 05:59 PM

I am from russia but very far from eastern europe

Dolphin 11-Apr-19 06:45 PM

Happy to help!

Leo|Leo2K 12-Apr-19 12:30 PM

Joined the server.

WaRNe0nx3 12-Apr-19 04:01 PM

@Dune yo, do u have a converter for the .6 to .7 automap rules? i got some custome tilesets with custom rules :/

Dune 12-Apr-19 06:43 PM

@WaRNe0nx3 there isn't, although @PatrykP may have been working on something

I had started to write a tutorial for the new automapper rules here: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12648

[TUTORIAL] Automapper: make your own rules! (0.7.x) (Page 1) — F...

[TUTORIAL] Automapper: make your own rules! (0.7.x) (Page 1) — Fan Art and Other — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

I think it's not too complicated to port them by hand

I have done it for all official tilesets at least

(although they still need to be improved, like @Fudgy noticed :D)

PatrykP 12-Apr-19 06:44 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12728 here, its tool ;)

[TOOLS] Automapper rules update tool (Page 1) — Maps — Teeworl...

[TOOLS] Automapper rules update tool (Page 1) — Maps — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Dune 12-Apr-19 06:45 PM

Ooh, right, I didn't remember if you actually went through with it :)

thx

PatrykP 12-Apr-19 06:49 PM

now, im "working" on tool to creating automapper rules from .png but i have a lot of other work to do and exams on uniwersity :|

Dolphin 12-Apr-19 08:01 PM

Anyone wants to join a new gamers server? ^^ You can socialize with every member, be yourself and learn new languages! (channel specialized in this)

I'll drop the link...

Fudgy 12-Apr-19 08:40 PM

@PatrykP I tried using the tool but it seems the last rule of each tileset is not converted

PatrykP 12-Apr-19 08:45 PM

Ok, I will fix it tomorrow ;)

Nii 12-Apr-19 09:06 PM

@noby u sure

noby 12-Apr-19 09:09 PM

teini94 14-Apr-19 11:32 PM

the browser refresh is a bit slow

PatrykP 14-Apr-19 11:41 PM

@Fudgy sorry i had no time for this

Fudgy 14-Apr-19 11:47 PM

There's no rush, its for my friend and we found a workaround lol

was just letting you know (edited)

PatrykP 14-Apr-19 11:52 PM

k ;)

ShootXen 15-Apr-19 02:23 PM

someone clean latest post in tw forum https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11512&p=3

Teeworlds on Steam, now released! (Page 3) — News — Teeworlds ...

Teeworlds on Steam, now released! (Page 3) — News — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Dune 15-Apr-19 02:30 PM

just use the report function if you think we're missing something

ShootXen 15-Apr-19 02:37 PM

na, dont want to log in

Only if I could collect points for reports

LeooOo 16-Apr-19 08:21 AM

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m!ki 16-Apr-19 03:43 PM

Joined the server.

PeliX 16-Apr-19 05:03 PM

Joined the server.

yair 17-Apr-19 04:33 PM

Joined the server.

Oh teeworlds server

Rynelf 17-Apr-19 04:34 PM

yair 17-Apr-19 07:57 PM

Who can test eith me my map?

6m we will finish

Search yair or DarkSkills

@everyone

Dune 17-Apr-19 08:04 PM

@yair that's rude, don't ping everyone for that

Rynelf 17-Apr-19 08:07 PM

It doesn't work though

Dune 17-Apr-19 08:10 PM

ah, right, I forgot it was disabled anyway

yair 17-Apr-19 09:14 PM

Xd

ShootXen 18-Apr-19 02:10 PM

@Dune https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12801

Lump under my armpit that hurts (Page 1) — Support — Teeworlds...

Lump under my armpit that hurts (Page 1) — Support — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

delet that!

Dune 18-Apr-19 02:11 PM

@ShootXen please use the report button or just wait (edited)

there are four of those a day :)

ShootXen 18-Apr-19 02:22 PM

I used it

Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ 18-Apr-19 05:06 PM

Is there a way to copy a map part and paste it to other map?

Dune 18-Apr-19 05:06 PM

Good question

Maybe if you select a part of it and load another map?

Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ 18-Apr-19 05:07 PM

I'll try

lol

it works

thanks :C

Fudgy 18-Apr-19 05:49 PM

wait really lol

Rynelf 18-Apr-19 07:46 PM

That's sick

yair 18-Apr-19 07:50 PM

Xdddd

And i worked 4h to copy parts

(edited)

Ticho 19-Apr-19 12:33 AM

Joined the server.

Skayland 19-Apr-19 09:10 AM

Copying stuff between maps

wait-thats-illegal.jpg

Since what version is it possible?

Dune 19-Apr-19 12:21 PM

Probably from the start

Kennyyy 19-Apr-19 07:30 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 20-Apr-19 02:52 PM

hey, anyone with mac to test the steam release?

Fluffy 20-Apr-19 03:09 PM

i could but no

Dune 20-Apr-19 03:21 PM

no?

num3rical 20-Apr-19 04:12 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 20-Apr-19 04:36 PM

0.7.3 release is out! News: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12807 Downloads: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=downloads&id=12803 Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/380840/Teeworlds/ Changelog (major changes):

+ advanced scoreboard with game statistics + joystick support (experimental!) + copy paste (one-way) + bot cosmetics (a visual difference between players and NPCs) + chat commands (type / in chat) + players can change skin without leaving the server (again) + live automapper and complete rules for 0.7 tilesets + audio toggling HUD + an Easter surprise...

Full changelog: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal @everyone

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DanilBest 20-Apr-19 04:37 PM

finally!

Fudgy 20-Apr-19 04:37 PM

num3rical 20-Apr-19 04:37 PM

heck yeah

Fisico 20-Apr-19 04:37 PM

thank you @all for your work

Golfdinger 20-Apr-19 04:37 PM

neat

num3rical 20-Apr-19 04:37 PM

Is the update available on steam yet?

Dune 20-Apr-19 04:38 PM

yes it is!

num3rical 20-Apr-19 04:38 PM

Sick

Skayland 20-Apr-19 04:40 PM

Nice

Zargon 20-Apr-19 04:40 PM

Yay for changing skin without leaving the server

BasedUser 20-Apr-19 04:42 PM

hell yeah

Saturn 20-Apr-19 04:42 PM

nice :D

Thee00 20-Apr-19 04:45 PM

doesn't open

PatrykP 20-Apr-19 04:45 PM

wow, gj

Dune 20-Apr-19 04:46 PM

@Thee00 OS, platform?

Thee00 20-Apr-19 04:47 PM

win64

downloaded win64

and when I open it nothing happens :/

even when I run it as admin

Fudgy 20-Apr-19 04:51 PM

Seems like I'm not the only one having that problem then

@Dune

Dune 20-Apr-19 04:51 PM

@Fudgy tried opening it from console?

Fudgy 20-Apr-19 04:52 PM

yes it works that way but its not practical

Thee00 20-Apr-19 04:52 PM

:/:/

Dune 20-Apr-19 04:52 PM

strange

Thee00 20-Apr-19 04:52 PM

::/

Delirio 20-Apr-19 05:25 PM

o.o

Dune 20-Apr-19 05:33 PM

@Thee00 please try win32

Thee00 20-Apr-19 05:50 PM

same for win32

Dune 20-Apr-19 05:50 PM

should be fixed on win64 now, @Thee00

Thee00 20-Apr-19 05:50 PM

ok thanks'

download link same?

Dune 20-Apr-19 05:50 PM

yes

Thee00 20-Apr-19 05:50 PM

ok

works

nice thx

as I can see the lag is fixed

Fudgy 20-Apr-19 05:56 PM

didnt see that in the changelog lol

Dune 20-Apr-19 05:57 PM

huh, strange

Fluffy 20-Apr-19 06:00 PM

oh no, who found out my exploits? D:

i dont like thst update :(

Thee00 20-Apr-19 06:01 PM

what exploits did you have?

what is this quakenet btw?

#bridge

Fudgy 20-Apr-19 06:04 PM

Thee00 20-Apr-19 06:04 PM

and why is it named bridge?

Dune 20-Apr-19 06:06 PM

it's the IRC channel, the official chat for Teeworlds

This Discord's original purpose was simply to bridge to the IRC channel

Thee00 20-Apr-19 06:06 PM

waat

I didn't even know that

Dune 20-Apr-19 06:07 PM

For the detail on the patched vulnerabilities, check the full changelog

num3rical 21-Apr-19 12:52 AM

Any thoughts on adding steam achievements to the game?

Dune 21-Apr-19 01:08 AM

@num3rical https://steamcommunity.com/app/380840/discussions/0/1743355067110221422/

Achievements :: Teeworlds General Discussions

Hey, I just wondered, you guys ever though about adding achievements to the game? Or is that something you don't want/don't have planned? Also I love the game ! And thanks for fixing the "resolution" bug in the last update, I can finally play :D!

basically, we can have steam achievements as long as they're also available out of steam

num3rical 21-Apr-19 01:10 AM

Oh alright. Thanks.

Thee00 21-Apr-19 01:49 AM

Btw why does map dl count in KiB not KB?

Dune 21-Apr-19 01:57 AM

It's the correct notation. When you see KB it's usually really a KiB

Sonix 21-Apr-19 08:20 AM

loving the update, gj guys!

also happy easter

.panda' 21-Apr-19 07:18 PM

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Dune 23-Apr-19 12:09 AM

We released a correction that fixes demo recording: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=news&id=12808 Without it, the game will not record demos on newly downloaded maps (using the more secure hash introduced in 0.7.3)

yair 23-Apr-19 09:13 PM

How open demo file? (Dont in Teeworlds client)

Fudgy 23-Apr-19 09:34 PM

What do you mean?

yair 23-Apr-19 09:36 PM

How can i see my videos(demo file)

Can i only in teeworlds client?

Fudgy 23-Apr-19 09:45 PM

Yes

Its not a video

yair 23-Apr-19 09:46 PM

Fudgy 23-Apr-19 09:47 PM

is that a problem?

yair 23-Apr-19 09:47 PM

So i need record my screen for video?

Fudgy 23-Apr-19 09:47 PM

yes

yair 23-Apr-19 09:47 PM

Oh ok ty

Fudgy 23-Apr-19 09:48 PM

Using a software like OBS for example

Dune 24-Apr-19 09:35 AM

cl_showhud 0

veppe 24-Apr-19 11:14 PM

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58588 24-Apr-19 11:14 PM

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coltana1325 25-Apr-19 07:41 AM

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Jhnyx 25-Apr-19 09:51 AM

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Blubahub 25-Apr-19 10:42 PM

Joined the server.

Just hopped on Teeworlds after not playing it for a while (new update :D), and it says there are absolutely no servers (and no players) online..? (edited)

Fudgy 25-Apr-19 10:47 PM

Did you download Teewars by accident?

Blubahub 25-Apr-19 11:41 PM

No

I've played it multiple times

on Steam

@Fudgy

Fudgy 25-Apr-19 11:43 PM

Make sure to uncheck all filters on the right

Dune 26-Apr-19 12:05 AM

@Blubahub maybe a firewall issue?

are you sure teeworlds cna access the internet?

Blubahub 26-Apr-19 12:06 AM

Was the firewall perms changed from last year?

Dune 26-Apr-19 12:06 AM

no

Blubahub 26-Apr-19 12:06 AM

Hmm

Dune 26-Apr-19 12:06 AM

try connecting at 62.141.44.42:8402

copy paste it in the "Host address" bar

(it works now

)

Blubahub 26-Apr-19 12:07 AM

Steam is also acting haywire - does Teeworlds use Steam to help networking?

Dune 26-Apr-19 12:07 AM

no

Blubahub 26-Apr-19 12:07 AM

My other Steam games that don’t rely on Steam networking work

Dune 26-Apr-19 12:08 AM

steam should have no impact

try what I proposed you

Blubahub 26-Apr-19 12:08 AM

On mobile

Will check later ty

Dune 26-Apr-19 12:09 AM

ok :)

Blubahub 26-Apr-19 12:45 PM

Ok, so, Steam is back to working normal, but it still won't show any servers. On the plus side, I can connect to 62.141.44.42:8402 (no players are on though).

Dune 26-Apr-19 12:47 PM

So Teeworlds can access the internet, but somehow doesn't load the server list. Are you sure the "All" filter is expanded?

Blubahub 26-Apr-19 12:47 PM

Sorry NVM it works now - Global now shows servers (it didn't before)

Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ 27-Apr-19 10:02 AM

how to use callvote? :C

LordSk 27-Apr-19 10:19 AM

@Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ Escape > Call vote

Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ 27-Apr-19 10:19 AM

With a bind*

Dune 27-Apr-19 10:20 AM

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=client_commands

Kaper38 27-Apr-19 08:21 PM

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MertenNor 27-Apr-19 08:27 PM

https://i.gyazo.com/e5ca6b92f02f7a56432dd387e8dc3342.png

Dune 27-Apr-19 08:42 PM

Teeworlds itself still restricts to 16 players

Sonix 27-Apr-19 09:47 PM

Right, vanilla is still 16 in game players

Deleted User 28-Apr-19 11:26 AM

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coany 28-Apr-19 01:53 PM

Is there a way of porting a map made in the 0.7 TW editor to the 0.6 standards?? I can't edit my 0.7 map in the DDNet editor.

Dune 28-Apr-19 02:09 PM

that sounds backwards

I don't think there are any 0.7->0.6 tools

coany 28-Apr-19 02:10 PM

I just realized I can use the 0.6 entities png with ur mod and it works. Which makes this obsolete. XD ty anyway!

YoungFlyme 28-Apr-19 09:13 PM

@Dune Whats going on with the master servers? I cannot find any server

nvm. saw the IRC log rn :/

Dune 28-Apr-19 09:20 PM

0.6 masterservers are vulnerable and cannot be fixed. (this was the main reason for the 0.7.0 release)

Fudgy 28-Apr-19 09:24 PM

so what will be done then?

there was this kind of attack before and master wasnt shutdown

isnt it better to see servers online even if some are attacked?

Dune 28-Apr-19 09:26 PM

it's a major nuisance to the host of both the attacked servers and the masterserver

teini94 02-May-19 08:30 PM

@Blubahub sometimes some people dont find any servers in 0.7 for 1day or more so dont worry I guess try another day again or even cant connect to any. (edited)

Dune 02-May-19 10:54 PM

in 0.7? I don't remember that

Fabi<3 03-May-19 12:55 AM

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ShootXen 03-May-19 06:38 PM

?

Would be new to me if we had the problem on 0.7

n000b 04-May-19 11:34 AM

#bridge without ddnet no teeworlds for me @LordSk

LordSk 04-May-19 11:35 AM

what does ddnet offers that 0.7 does not?

n000b 04-May-19 11:35 AM

Srry cant talk in bridge apparently

LordSk 04-May-19 11:35 AM

it's ok we can move the discussion here

n000b 04-May-19 11:36 AM

Didn't check tw 0.7tho. but everyone who plays gores or drrace stay all on 0.6

LordSk 04-May-19 11:37 AM

I mean we have a version of ddrace on 0.7 already

n000b 04-May-19 11:38 AM

Well as i said i dont know that, but when all good players play on ddnet 0.6, why would i join 0.7 then?

LordSk 04-May-19 11:39 AM

so what you are basically saying is, there is nothing "better" about 0.7

and then no reason to switch

ChillerDragon 04-May-19 11:40 AM

i guess they are waiting for someone to create ddrace and gores servers

n000b 04-May-19 11:40 AM

Ddnet community is almost a separated community from teeworlds. And as long as ddnetservers are not hosted on 0.7 i dont change. And since the devs are not going to port it (soon). We got no reason to use 0.7. (edited)

LordSk 04-May-19 11:41 AM

So the only reason you're still using the old version is both those mods are not ported yet?

Nothing else client wise?

n000b 04-May-19 11:43 AM

That is the main reason yes

LordSk 04-May-19 11:44 AM

I'm trying to think in terms of features

I'm sure there is cool stuff we can take from ddnet

Would you mind testing 0.7 @n000b and tell us what you feel is missing?

Apart from those 2 mods of course

n000b 04-May-19 11:49 AM

Ofcourse, i will let you know next week sometime. I don't have a pc close atm

Dune 04-May-19 12:20 PM

@n000b #bridge is the quakenet IRC, anyone can get access on request (and must abide by the IRC rules: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=rules/irc_rules)

LordSk 04-May-19 03:33 PM

Thank you @n000b

SkinError 05-May-19 12:24 AM

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Kpro 05-May-19 05:32 AM

@LordSk What about a server browser you can use in game?

Also I get like -1500 fps in 0.7 and the cursor movement is so weird I can't get used to it

Kpro 05-May-19 05:42 AM

Personally I would like to see something to disable quads like ddnets cl_show_quads. Copy/paste, link support and ctrl+f searching for f1 and f2.

Fudgy 05-May-19 05:45 AM

there's already paste but no copy

link support wont be added from what I read before

and there's a submission for ingame browser but its outdated

and it seems they dont like being able to use it ingame

Kpro 05-May-19 06:11 AM

Why wouldn't you like being able to use browser in game? You can use it to see if friends are online etc

Fudgy 05-May-19 06:14 AM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1636

Add server browser from ingame by nheir · Pull Request #1636 · t...

Proposal for #1552 Use same mechanism as settings from ingame menu.

Kpro 05-May-19 06:21 AM

Weird... and I'm not sure why Teeworlds isn't moving towards officially supporting modding. Majority of the players are playing custom servers

Fudgy 05-May-19 06:39 AM

what do you even mean officially supporting modding

Kpro 05-May-19 07:07 AM

APIs and such

Fudgy 05-May-19 07:22 AM

I dont get it

you can already change ingame settings

idk what kind of api you would want

Kpro 05-May-19 07:23 AM

Probably some sort of client and server scripting API like a lot of games have nowadays

Fudgy 05-May-19 07:24 AM

isnt that worst than just coding it directly? You are not limited that way

otherwise youre limited to what the api allows

Kpro 05-May-19 07:24 AM

I mean you have pretty much control over the client if you make changes to the server

I'm thinking something along the lines of Garry's Mod

I think it would be perfect for this game

The reason games like Garry's Mod and Minecraft are so successful and timeless is because they have so many tools for the community to keep making new content

Fudgy 05-May-19 07:26 AM

I thought Minecraft was against modding

and from what I'm seeing about Gary's mod, its the same as changing server settings and using lua instead of cpp

Kpro 05-May-19 07:27 AM

Well for one lua is a lot easier than cpp, many people can learn to use lua

Fudgy 05-May-19 07:28 AM

For simple modding I dont think there is a significant difference of difficulty

the hardest part is just finding where to add your changes

and understand how it works

Kpro 05-May-19 07:28 AM

There's a big difference between modding in lua and in c[[

cpp

Lua is a pretty common scripting language used in a lot of games

For a good reason

Fudgy 05-May-19 07:31 AM

considering the large amount of mods made for teeworlds, I dont think its a problem

Kpro 05-May-19 07:31 AM

I think there would be a lot more if it had a simple API to do it

Fudgy 05-May-19 07:32 AM

I still dont understand what that simple API would be

lets say I wanna make a race mod

using the API

Kpro 05-May-19 07:32 AM

ATH has a Lua api for the client side

The creator of it also did a little lua api for server side but it never got developed much

Fudgy 05-May-19 07:33 AM

ok and what are they used for

Kpro 05-May-19 07:34 AM

The client side lua has some examples, like Flappy bird in game.

But if you have an extensive lua API you can pretty much do anything you can think of

That's why there's so much variety in games like Garry's Mod

The point of the lua api would be to be able to do everything you can do in cpp but it just makes it 10x easier

Any average person can learn how to use lua pretty easy, not the same with cpp

LordSk 05-May-19 10:37 AM

@Kpro in game server browser is a big one yea, hopefully next version

Is 1500 fps bad? What were you getting before on 0.6?

And we also reenabled 0.6 mouse behaviour by default (I think?) recently

And I am currently experimenting with scripting on the client-side, but it is a hard problem to solve and it won't be ready for a while for official teeworlds. However I plan on releasing it anyway when I get to a satisfying state.

Kpro 05-May-19 07:42 PM

I'm probably just nit-picking but I get 3500 fps in another client and only 2000 in 0.7 teeworlds. Seems weird to be missing 1500 fps.

Arseniy Zarche 05-May-19 09:41 PM

Joined the server.

Hello, guys I'm noob But i wanna compile tw 0.7.3.1

i stopped at this, and i don't know what i must to do next

Dune 05-May-19 09:43 PM

could you translate? can't understand the error

@Kpro not showing quads would break a lot of maps

Kpro 05-May-19 09:49 PM

That's why ddnet has a button to toggle it, but I still don't think it would break that many maps

Arseniy Zarche 05-May-19 09:50 PM

@Dune there is not errors

Green text means "project succesfully compiled"

lastest blue text means "Compile of project "......" finished"

Dune 05-May-19 09:58 PM

then what is the issue?

Arseniy Zarche 05-May-19 09:58 PM

idk how to compile server

i wanna have .exe (edited)

Dune 05-May-19 09:58 PM

@Kpro any map with a sky would be kinda broken? that doesn't sound like something that would belong in the standard client

Arseniy Zarche 05-May-19 10:00 PM

@Dune

plsplsplslol 05-May-19 10:31 PM

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NeXus 05-May-19 10:31 PM

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Gogi 05-May-19 10:31 PM

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archimede67 05-May-19 10:38 PM

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miu 05-May-19 10:38 PM

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Dune 05-May-19 10:40 PM

@Arseniy Zarche you should have the .exe in build/x86_64/debug or so

or Win32\Debug according to the log

Deleted User 05-May-19 10:47 PM

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gdin 05-May-19 11:08 PM

Joined the server.

plsplsplslol 05-May-19 11:09 PM

gdin

gdin 05-May-19 11:09 PM

UglyGod 06-May-19 05:05 AM

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ChillerDragon 06-May-19 07:08 AM

bro @Arseniy Zarche you are done you compiled it....

the exe is in build/Debug/ or something like that

ya pretty sure it was build/Debug/teeworlds.exe

lol its the ghost of magnus in the contibutions graph xxxD

seems like github doesnt handle too long usernames too well

n000b 06-May-19 05:00 PM

@LordSk okay, so here some feedback. There is no ingame serverbrowser. I prefer this to see if friends are online.

Arseniy Zarche 06-May-19 05:00 PM

@ChillerDragon i dont have it there

@ChillerDragon oh sry

xD

n000b 06-May-19 05:07 PM

@LordSk i also miss my entities, Quads off, hd off. My fps is decreased to 60 from 400 because of this. It still looks pretty smooth tho.

n000b 06-May-19 05:17 PM

Besides i dont regonise 1 of the 142 players and i play already for a pretty long time.

What i also noticed is that only 6 of those 142 were playing vanilla and the others were playing mods.

Sonix 06-May-19 05:39 PM

you can still toggle hd on off

are u sure u havent vsync on

Dune 06-May-19 11:55 PM

@n000b the ingame server browser is on the 0.7.4 milestone: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/milestone/12

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12827

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Fudgy 07-May-19 12:02 AM

Was added today

didnt expect it haha

n000b 07-May-19 07:08 AM

LordSk 07-May-19 09:10 AM

@n000b Thank you for your feedback, did you check if you had vsync on as @Sonix suggested?

n000b 07-May-19 12:58 PM

If it is off by default it was off. Otherwise it could be on. I should check that.

Dune 07-May-19 02:00 PM

it is on by default. 60 fps without vsync would be potato pc

n000b 07-May-19 03:21 PM

I got a potato pc

On some ddrace maps my fps is like 130 if i dont use entities.

Essigautomat 07-May-19 08:42 PM

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Assa 07-May-19 08:43 PM

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Xarrek 07-May-19 09:10 PM

oh man, zEsc was such a fun mode..

Alderith 08-May-19 05:48 PM

Joined the server.

So, basically what's up about Vanilla? Also I don't get why all of those dm/ctf servers are being overcrowded with bots. What's the interest? I'd like to know if some modes are gonna comeback in Europe like BALL or zEsc. Thanks! (edited)

Dune 08-May-19 05:53 PM

Hey @Alderith, I have only seen one bot ctf server. Is there any new one?

Kpro 08-May-19 05:54 PM

I think he's talking about the masters getting attacked in 0.6

Dune 08-May-19 05:54 PM

Ah, dummies

Alderith 08-May-19 05:54 PM

I saw 3 this afternoon, couldn't play at all.

Dune 08-May-19 05:54 PM

This exploit is fixed in 0.6.5 afaik

Alderith 08-May-19 05:54 PM

Dudes, why attacking those? What for?

Deleted User 08-May-19 05:55 PM

wanting them to update?

Alderith 08-May-19 05:55 PM

I use DDNet client, seemingly not fixed.

Dune 08-May-19 05:55 PM

That's irrelevant, there's an exploit, people will exploit

Alderith 08-May-19 05:55 PM

LOL: "Update or we attack." Doesn't look very efficient.

Dune 08-May-19 05:55 PM

I doubt that's the reasoning either way

Alderith 08-May-19 05:55 PM

People are dumb.

So yeah, w/ DDNet it seems like those servers are still attacked. Same in iCtf, fng, zCatch. Waiting for update. I thought they'd fixed it 'cos it already happened few months ago and then they found the way to block them.

Dune 08-May-19 05:58 PM

The 0.7 release happened because of this attack (and because it cannot be fixed in a 0.6 minor release)

Alderith 08-May-19 05:58 PM

Now it's coming back. And I can barely play. I'm kinda pissed of, ahah. (edited)

Dune 08-May-19 05:59 PM

As long as servers don't upgrade they will be vulnerable (or there is something I do not know)

Alderith 08-May-19 05:59 PM

I guess. Thanks. Hope it won't take too long.

Kpro 08-May-19 06:00 PM

Most of the servers that people play on are fixed already I'm pretty sure. It's just the servers running vanilla game modes that are attacked

Dune 08-May-19 06:01 PM

If it could be fixed with a 0.6 modification, we would have done that

Alderith 08-May-19 06:01 PM

Well. I was just freaking out this afternoon about finding a safe server.

Dune 08-May-19 06:01 PM

What do you mean by safe?

Alderith 08-May-19 06:02 PM

Not being joined by bots every second.

Dune 08-May-19 06:02 PM

This is fixed in 0.6.5

If you're having this issue, the server is not being maintained

Kpro 08-May-19 06:02 PM

Yeah that only happens on vanilla game modes

Alderith 08-May-19 06:02 PM

I know, right? I just don't really get why I can't find the other servers.

Dune 08-May-19 06:02 PM

it's not vanilla related. Probably just that the vanilla servers that upgraded went straight to 0.7 so 0.6 only has unmaintained servers

Kpro 08-May-19 06:03 PM

Well yeah I mean most of the vanilla servers don't get updated

Dune 08-May-19 06:03 PM

Well, there's a good chance that those that appear in the 0.6 server list don't, yeah

Kpro 08-May-19 06:04 PM

@Dune you thought about adding auto update to tw?

Alderith 08-May-19 06:04 PM

Okay. I'll check tonight. Does DDNet make any difference? Don't think so, just checking. (edited)

Dune 08-May-19 06:04 PM

this isn't really in the FOSS spirit

@Alderith the 0.6.5 patch that fixes dummies is small and probably in any updated 0.6 mod, so definitely in there too

Alderith 08-May-19 06:05 PM

Oh. Gotcha, thanks.

Dune 08-May-19 06:05 PM

there are other vulnerabilities though

Alderith 08-May-19 06:06 PM

Those weaknesses are new, though? I mean, never seen something like that before 0.6.

Kpro 08-May-19 06:06 PM

This issue has happened quite a few times in 0.6 before

Alderith 08-May-19 06:07 PM

Right. So does anybody know the origins of those vulnerabilities?

Dune 08-May-19 06:08 PM

reflection attacks: https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2018-18541/

CVE-2018-18541 : In Teeworlds before 0.6.5, connection packets cou...

CVE-2018-18541 : In Teeworlds before 0.6.5, connection packets could be forged. There was no challenge-response involved in the connection build up. A remote attacker could send connection packets from a spoofed IP address and occupy all server slots, or even use them for a r...

Alderith 08-May-19 06:09 PM

Oh, damn! Thanks a lot @Dune.

odinsamejima 09-May-19 04:04 PM

Joined the server.

Even very strange, why have TeeWorlds such simple discord

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12828 Look Please Here

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Dune 09-May-19 04:13 PM

There is a good chance the issue is an outdated compiler/libc. Can you try to compile with native prompt 2017 like Barsik suggested?

ChillerDragon 09-May-19 05:27 PM

This issue is very likles a wrong configuration file had it many times after swithcing os to windows

windows must likley uses some cl compiler and not g++ you get the same error on for examle linux "cl" not defnied if you used windows confighuration

AKholiker 09-May-19 10:11 PM

Joined the server.

odinsamejima 10-May-19 12:41 PM

I tried to do with snow leopard, but nothing happened. What can I do now? I'm a little confused, my head is boiling from trying to compile... Please give advice on how to proceed

I'm trying to compile a version of the mod MMO 0.6. Maybe there is someone already compiled mod? If there is please give a link. I think I'm going to explode.

odinsamejima 10-May-19 12:50 PM

What can you think of to avoid these mistakes?

Dune 10-May-19 12:52 PM

try to compile pure teeworlds first, using the guide at https://teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=compiling_everything_windows (and no custom build script)

odinsamejima 10-May-19 02:48 PM

Compilation of normal versions of servers was successful. I also successfully built XXLDDRACE. But when I try to compile the server from mmo, I get an error.

So successful that there was no mistake.

Dune 10-May-19 02:50 PM

So it's a problem specific to this modification and you should contact the people that are part of this project directly, I don't think we can help you

odinsamejima 10-May-19 02:52 PM

Good. Thanks a lot anyway. I understood more through your advice

However.. It is a pity that everything ended problematic. I will write for her, if there are questions I will write if I can't figure it out for myself. Thanks and good luck guys

I will not drink but TeeWorlds will not throw

odinsamejima 11-May-19 12:20 PM

I tried other sources with a compilation method the same which at me turned out from Botox(Vanya), and writes this error what it for the file and in General whether it is necessary? You can think of with him? How to restore it if it is necessary?

ChillerDragon 11-May-19 02:32 PM

minecraft

Fluffy 11-May-19 02:51 PM

@ChillerDragon mc kid

ChillerDragon 11-May-19 03:09 PM

didnt u know mc is cool agian?

odinsamejima 11-May-19 05:36 PM

Em... Lol..

Skayland 14-May-19 01:34 PM

Lol

That is

Offtopic

Xd

n000b 14-May-19 03:15 PM

@Skayland u are offtopic too and we never complained about it.

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 15-May-19 05:52 PM

Joined the server.

Taipan 16-May-19 07:47 PM

Joined the server.

Skayland 16-May-19 11:04 PM

Welcome

Deleted User 16-May-19 11:06 PM

Lol That is Offtopic Xd

Skayland 16-May-19 11:09 PM

Mmmh

youtube fufurz 18-May-19 02:29 PM

Joined the server.

vennner dans le général

Dune 18-May-19 02:31 PM

english only here

Deleted User 18-May-19 06:07 PM

bro that was pretty cringe why you post that

babel 20-May-19 05:08 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 21-May-19 01:59 PM

teeworlds battle royale confirmeed

Dolphin 22-May-19 06:34 AM

Can teeworlds have a server that runs as a Moba game? A 3 or 5-man-squad fighting another one of the same type with weapons that stun or throw away the enemies and so on. That would be a very good Idea.

Also the battle royale would be great, just like Ninslash

Sonix 22-May-19 07:29 AM

Lms is kinda a battle royale btw

Dune 22-May-19 11:08 AM

Yeah it's as close as it gets in Teeworlds spirit

Dolphin 22-May-19 12:51 PM

Just coming with ideas..

TechPanda 22-May-19 02:59 PM

Joined the server.

Dolphin 22-May-19 03:32 PM

@TechPanda Welcome brother

TechPanda 22-May-19 03:33 PM

Hello

Assa 22-May-19 06:47 PM

@Dolphin Sounds a bit like RPGTees, it is still in development - I had some similar ideas, but people voted differently ^^

Dolphin 23-May-19 08:40 AM

@Assa Unfortunately

Appreciate it tho @Assa

odinsamejima 23-May-19 10:03 AM

I have a question: I create the map came across such a thing like sounds. How to use it? And if I add sound to the map and run it so my friends and I can play, can they hear it?

https://i109.fastpic.ru/big/2019/0515/b4/_50179f3d9def9c95f0e98889d3f957b4.png?noht=1

WsY[FU]? 23-May-19 10:19 AM

@odinsamejima it's a ddnet feature

odinsamejima 23-May-19 10:58 AM

So I have to go to them? Can someone faced it? оО

Deleted User 23-May-19 02:35 PM

@odinsamejima as @WsY[FU]? already said, it's a DDNet only feature. You and your friends will need to use the ddnet client to use map-sounds. That's not a vanilla feature and I guess nobody here will support you with that. Please ask for help at the ddnet discord.

odinsamejima 23-May-19 02:42 PM

Well, I'm glad to hear from you.

Dune 23-May-19 04:29 PM

just found out this map, looks really cool. does anyone know whose tileset that is?

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WsY[FU]? 23-May-19 04:36 PM

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=4960&p=50517&hilit=moon#p50517

Dune 23-May-19 04:38 PM

oh, thanks

Skayland 23-May-19 05:14 PM

I love that tee world in the background

Skayland 25-May-19 03:27 PM

Maybe check your FPS? Do you have vsync enabled in graphics settings? (edited)

szkuta 25-May-19 04:27 PM

come Catch64 best mode evah

vv17ch0u7 25-May-19 04:52 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 25-May-19 05:12 PM

@szkuta so you are just having high latency?

disabling VSync will help with latency

ping is low but latency is high?

krooked 29-May-19 12:10 AM

hi guys, does sb of u have a contact of the United Lgds Clan? (the one that hosted the european ball servers) (edited)

szkuta 29-May-19 10:31 AM

i see sometimes dmtee on DDnet

isn't he the leader?

he's on DDnet discord only

also PeX is still regular player i think

and Kill4Fun

but they werent hosts, they were just players as i remember

Ryozuki 30-May-19 04:12 PM

@Dune hi, it would be nice if you could add a image to the game on twitch, it must be done by the game owner or representative https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Teeworlds https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/adding-a-game-and-box-art-to-the-directory if you want/have time ofc.

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Dune 30-May-19 04:47 PM

Thanks for the notification, @Ryozuki. What do you think, @heinrich5991? Sounds good to me

heinrich5991 30-May-19 11:54 PM

@Ryozuki "Community box art submissions can be submitted here. Please follow the guidelines listed above for any box art submissions."

from the second link

perhaps you can do it yourself

Dune 31-May-19 12:45 AM

@heinrich5991 "Game box-art must be added by the owner of the game, or a representative from the publisher/producer of the game. "

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:46 AM

that sounds like one of two alternatives to me if you read until the end

Dune 31-May-19 12:47 AM

I read until the end and still don't see that

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:48 AM

the last sentence

or rather before that

Dune 31-May-19 12:49 AM

oh, you just enabled 2FA on this server?

is there a reason for that?

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:49 AM

you have an internal uploader if you're an official representative

so I inferred from the presence of the second link that it must be a different option(?)

Dune 31-May-19 12:50 AM

ahh, that was tricky

sorry, you're probably right

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:50 AM

yes, I wanted to make the discord server official – does it stop some of your moderation action?

Dune 31-May-19 12:51 AM

yes, I lose all privileges unless I use 2FA

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:51 AM

eh

Dune 31-May-19 12:51 AM

it's a requirement?

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:51 AM

okay, that's annoying

yes

Dune 31-May-19 12:51 AM

understandab le

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:51 AM

2fa here doesn't require a phone number though, it's pretty okayish

Dune 31-May-19 12:52 AM

yeah, I used it before, still somewhat cumbersome

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:52 AM

yea

Dune 31-May-19 12:52 AM

I guess there is rarely a need for privileges here so that's fine

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:53 AM

I can disable it again if you want (but I kinda also wanted the "official" badge ^^)

Dune 31-May-19 12:53 AM

yeah I understand

hm, that means I have to enable then disable it everytime to elevate

okay, it's fine. did you send the request?

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:53 AM

you could probably install some software on your computer that handles this if you want to subvert the 2fa

yes, I sent it

Dune 31-May-19 12:54 AM

huh, really? I think it's a mobile only app

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:54 AM

no, it's a standard

google for any program that can do totp

Dune 31-May-19 12:57 AM

alright

so developer art box submissions have no advantage over community ones I assume, it's just in case the devs want to control the twitch

heinrich5991 31-May-19 12:59 AM

https://winauth.github.io/winauth/ < e.g. this would work I guess

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Dune 31-May-19 12:59 AM

thanks

Ryozuki 31-May-19 09:03 AM

im a noob editor, but i tried my best

Attachment: teeworlds_boxart.kra (716.85 KB)

sent it

to twitch

Dune 31-May-19 10:31 AM

hey, not bad at all!

looks nice

Fluffy 31-May-19 08:14 PM

@Ryozuki awfull that paint skills

Ryozuki 31-May-19 08:14 PM

thanks

Fluffy 31-May-19 08:14 PM

np

Ryozuki 31-May-19 08:14 PM

i used krita tho

Fluffy 31-May-19 08:15 PM

i prefer paint for the high level skills

lemme edit it

Deleted User 31-May-19 08:19 PM

s h a d o w s

Fluffy 31-May-19 08:19 PM

xd

i forgot the new title

Teeworlds Jumping the gun Im a bee

Fudgy 31-May-19 08:29 PM

where's the grenade

? also seems like the tee is too small, too much empty space (edited)

Fluffy 31-May-19 08:48 PM

the flowers have the guns

they are dangerous

Ryozuki 31-May-19 09:10 PM

its just for twitch cover

Fluffy 31-May-19 10:10 PM

use my

poko 01-Jun-19 10:09 AM

it's beautiful

Wake 01-Jun-19 01:03 PM

Joined the server.

henlo

ChillerDragon 01-Jun-19 05:53 PM

hi

Dune 02-Jun-19 05:35 PM

@Fluffy english only

Fluffy 02-Jun-19 05:35 PM

ye but you dont need to delete it bro

Dune 02-Jun-19 05:36 PM

if you know you shouldn't do it, don't do it

Fluffy 02-Jun-19 05:36 PM

do you see rules here? i dont see it, i know the rules for bridge

Dune 02-Jun-19 05:36 PM

IRC rules apply

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=rules/irc_rules

Fluffy 02-Jun-19 05:36 PM

lol this isnt irc

for you

Dune 02-Jun-19 05:37 PM

It's merely an extension. Apply IRC rules with common sense

Fluffy 02-Jun-19 05:37 PM

These are the rules for #teeworlds on Quakenet:

only for quakenet

EddY 02-Jun-19 05:37 PM

What you need?

@Fluffy

you pinged me didnt u?

Fluffy 02-Jun-19 05:37 PM

nothing, he deleted my important message

but he doesnt know the tw rules...

EddY 02-Jun-19 05:38 PM

okey well dm is a option aswell

Fluffy 02-Jun-19 05:38 PM

dm is a funny option aswell if we arnt friends or havnt us blocked

really good option

EddY 02-Jun-19 05:38 PM

you blocked me?

http://prntscr.com/nwmvg8

Screenshot

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Kpro 03-Jun-19 07:47 PM

@EddY do u have nothing better to do

Deleted User 04-Jun-19 04:09 PM

@Dune But he is right with the rules. There are no rules and no hint for irc rules directly. You should really add some discord rules because people don't know that this is a "irc extension" for you. Btw, nowadays people don't know what irc is and they don't care.

Dune 04-Jun-19 04:10 PM

Apply IRC rules with common sense. https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=rules/irc_rules (edited)

Pinned a message.

There you go.

This discord exists mostly to bridge IRC, so far. Haven't seen the use for a bunch of rules yet, so that will do. (edited)

Deleted User 04-Jun-19 04:21 PM

@Dune Not really a good solution, but maybe better than nothing...

Maybe you should directly link to those rules? Or copy them. (edited)

Dune 04-Jun-19 04:26 PM

Just read the channels description

Skayland 04-Jun-19 04:27 PM

Exactly what i said, people should use common sense

Idk who deleted my messages tho

Dune 04-Jun-19 04:27 PM

Ah, the #general channel description was changed, used to have more

Deleted User 04-Jun-19 04:56 PM

I guess nobody reads them.... but kay. It's nothing new to see tw-devs being unreasonable...

Deleted User 04-Jun-19 05:11 PM

Almost every Discord server I have seen so far has a rules channel, or info channel (with rules) or readme channel (ofc also with rules) and those rules explicit apply to discord. Why don't you follow this simple scheme? It would make things less difficult...

Dune 04-Jun-19 05:13 PM

For now, (almost) everyone has been very civil and pleasant here, and I'd like to keep this atmosphere of a space that needs no moderation

Deleted User 04-Jun-19 05:13 PM

like every single rule in discord servers is common sense

Dune 04-Jun-19 05:13 PM

Rest assured, if there is a need for rules at some point there will be

Deleted User 04-Jun-19 05:14 PM

rip, just rip.

Dune 04-Jun-19 05:15 PM

In 6 months I have only had the need to use privileges once as far as I can remember. It's a pleasant channel, I think that's a good thing.

Skayland 04-Jun-19 05:30 PM

Its a nice community

and we all have common sense, no need for a rules channel, just be civilizated

Deleted User 04-Jun-19 06:00 PM

theres no immature ignorant kid that says the n word every second sentence

n000b 04-Jun-19 07:53 PM

Who says you cant say nigger

Deleted User 04-Jun-19 07:53 PM

it depends

n000b 04-Jun-19 07:56 PM

Nice .png orange

Slayer *gV* 04-Jun-19 07:58 PM

@Dune Just rename the topic to Chat Rules and add a simple sentence "Those rules apply to all official chat services, like IRC and Discord".

Ryozuki 04-Jun-19 09:30 PM

@Dune

Dune 04-Jun-19 10:53 PM

Good job @Ryozuki

n000b 05-Jun-19 09:43 AM

Wait what did you do ryozuki?

m!ki 05-Jun-19 10:08 AM

He added Teeworlds' image on Twitch

Neox 06-Jun-19 11:09 PM

Joined the server.

Skayland 07-Jun-19 04:18 AM

Im your #1 fan

rick 07-Jun-19 10:55 PM

Are we having issues with masterserver?

Dune 08-Jun-19 12:26 AM

@rick 0.7 works fine here. is 0.6 attacked?

ChillerDragon 08-Jun-19 02:32 PM

yes 0.6 masters have trobule

ReiTW 08-Jun-19 06:10 PM

@rick you may need to refresh multiple times to get a correct list of servers.

seems like it works like that

Slayer *gV* 08-Jun-19 07:54 PM

Anyone up for some GRENADE VAMPIRE LTS?

Slayer *gV* 08-Jun-19 08:10 PM

timakro 09-Jun-19 09:18 AM

hey, can anybody tell if 0.6 or 0.7 is more popular for DM players right now?

timakro 09-Jun-19 09:33 AM

well, 0.7 seems kinda empty ^^

Assa 09-Jun-19 09:46 AM

we need moar 0.7 mods to gain playerbase

rip english

Slayer *gV* 09-Jun-19 11:23 AM

Hey! I am looking for someone to build my mods for Windows. Anyone capable and willing to?

ChillerDragon 09-Jun-19 11:28 AM

sure @Slayer *gV*

Slayer *gV* 09-Jun-19 11:33 AM

n000b 09-Jun-19 11:38 AM

Why is 0.7 not compatible with 0.6 because i got the feeling people don't switch and for me the reason is simple. Ddnet is not porting to 0.7 so i got nothing to do there.

ChillerDragon 09-Jun-19 11:57 AM

because it is a major version they break

i guess someone could craft an ugly client that supprots both versions xxd but sounds like work

I think vanilla development will slow down soon and then some1 will create something similar to ddnet in 0.7 for sure

jxsl13 09-Jun-19 02:22 PM

let's pray this doesn't happen fingers crossed

Skayland 09-Jun-19 02:34 PM

Lets pray ddnet dissapears

All we need is fng

Deleted User 09-Jun-19 03:51 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 09-Jun-19 05:24 PM

ddnet players more like point slaves

Sonix 09-Jun-19 06:57 PM

Ryozuki 09-Jun-19 11:22 PM

ddnet best

Deleted User 10-Jun-19 03:30 AM

nope

lets hope ddnet will finally disappear

and block should follow

Ryozuki 10-Jun-19 03:38 AM

@Deleted User keep dreaming lmao xd

tygamer1to7 10-Jun-19 05:43 AM

Joined the server.

hi

Skayland 10-Jun-19 11:52 AM

Block has way more players tan ddnet i think

I mean

I never saw more than one block server empty

Instead: 90% of ddnet servers are empty

I know ddnet has way more servers

But still: ddnet servers with players never have more than 10

In most cases just 2 or 3 players per servwr

Instead block has (edited)

Well

64 players per server

But i hope for more fng

Ryozuki 10-Jun-19 01:49 PM

@Skayland "But still: ddnet servers with players never have more than 10"

i mean you might be blind or something

Skayland 10-Jun-19 05:03 PM

Well

Maybe im blind

Mattew 11-Jun-19 10:17 AM

Joined the server.

timakro 11-Jun-19 11:11 AM

there are issues with the masterservers, huh?

Dune 11-Jun-19 11:24 AM

The 0.6 masterservers have vulnerabilities

ShootXen 11-Jun-19 01:50 PM

I hope FNG will just die now.

or 0.6 overall

rick 11-Jun-19 02:04 PM

Yeah I had issues loading the serverlist on 0.6

And on ddnet client as well

ReiTW 11-Jun-19 04:54 PM

@timakro you just need to refresh a few more time that's normal for now since an attack is running out

timakro 11-Jun-19 04:59 PM

Okay, thanks @ReiTW.

Dune 11-Jun-19 06:32 PM

(No aggressivity please)

n000b 11-Jun-19 06:48 PM

It isnt said in the rules, oh wait there arent any

WsY[FU]? 11-Jun-19 07:02 PM

Rule of thumb: if you think moderators won't approve something you want to do, don't do that

ShootXen 11-Jun-19 07:04 PM

I got a ping here, who was it? (edited)

Krumplee 11-Jun-19 09:31 PM

Joined the server.

hi

timakro 12-Jun-19 02:20 PM

TMLP Deathmatch Night | Saturday 2019-06-15 20:00 CEST | timakro.de:8500 The Teeworlds Machine Learning Project needs you, or more precisely your skill! On the TMLP Vanilla DM server (connect to timakro.de:8500 or search for TMLP) we automatically record your gameplay to train an AI on it. The master servers are under attack lately so the server gets little attention. This is why I invite you to the TMLP Deathmatch Night this Saturday 2019-06-15 at 20:00 CEST. The address of the server in Germany is timakro.de:8500 on version 0.6, add it to your favorites! We will be playing 10 rounds of DM with the winner being the first one to reach 20 points. The player with the most wins gets a special mention in the servers MOTD if they wish so, the better you play the more valuable your data is to the project after all. I hope to see your there! Apart from the event you are always welcome to play on our server. Map suggestions are welcome, because a wide variety of maps is beneficial for the AI training in order for the AI to learn the game and not a specific map. Currently we host all the standard DM and CTF maps. If you are a leader or member of a competitive DM community I'd be happy to connect with you and maybe form a collaboration. The goal is to teach an AI to play Teeworlds Deathmatch. Here's an example of how the recorded data looks like, which is what the AI will see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ocxnWipQDw Once the AI is a little bit competent I will experimenting with reinforcement learning, which basically means letting the AI playing against another instance of itself and training it on the gameplay data of the winner. I will release my results and the source code in the future, if the project is successful.

timakro

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The Teeworlds Machine Learning Project aims to teach an AI to play Teeworlds Deathmatch by training it with player data. This is an example of the data the A...

Sonix 12-Jun-19 05:13 PM

Oooh that sounds interesting

Theres actually a competitive vanilla discord if u wanna share the post there too

ShootXen 12-Jun-19 05:25 PM

competitive vanilla still a thing?

Dune 12-Jun-19 05:40 PM

can't you use replays for learning?

timakro 12-Jun-19 06:01 PM

@Dune Sure, that would work. The plan is to have players play against the AI on the server later. That's one reason I decided to do it serverside.

WsY[FU]? 12-Jun-19 08:33 PM

Is it possible to teach this AI to mock enemies?

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Dollx 13-Jun-19 02:17 AM

Joined the server.

Hi

Lets play teeworlds?

Slayer *gV* 13-Jun-19 08:41 PM

Looking for some (creative) tee artist. What are my odds? Is there anyone left?

m!ki 13-Jun-19 09:28 PM

Whis

Ryozuki 13-Jun-19 10:07 PM

@Skayland

10 players?

ChillerDragon 13-Jun-19 10:13 PM

2/3 servers with most players are block tho :p

Deleted User 13-Jun-19 11:22 PM

why do people like block

Skayland 14-Jun-19 01:00 AM

Why do people like ddrace

Dollx 14-Jun-19 06:17 AM

Hi

n000b 14-Jun-19 04:47 PM

Old block maps were better, now it is just shit.

I liked thr blmapv3 and blmapv4an

ChillerDragon 14-Jun-19 05:50 PM

oh blmapv3 was my childhood! best map. (edited)

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Skayland 14-Jun-19 06:06 PM

Pepe

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timakro 15-Jun-19 08:00 PM

TMLP Deathmatch Night starting in a few minutes!

yair 16-Jun-19 02:55 PM

https://discord.gg/qnHHDKk

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boobaaaaaa 16-Jun-19 04:15 PM

Joined the server.

Repeater 16-Jun-19 06:25 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 16-Jun-19 11:07 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 17-Jun-19 07:02 AM

Hola guys, I've got an error on teeworlds 0.7 due to microsoft visual c++, it's impossible to launch the game, did this happens to anyone else?

Dune 17-Jun-19 10:04 AM

What does the error say @Deleted User

It's possible that you need to install the MSVC redistributable package

ChillerDragon 17-Jun-19 10:22 AM

@Deleted User Are you trying to play the release from the homepage or compile it on your own?

Deleted User 17-Jun-19 10:24 AM

I downloaded the ones from the teeworlds website @ChillerDragon. @Dune I already installed it like 3 times x uninstalled -> mvs.dll missinh

ChillerDragon 17-Jun-19 10:24 AM

weird

what operating system are you on?

Deleted User 17-Jun-19 10:25 AM

Win 8

64x

ChillerDragon 17-Jun-19 10:26 AM

Uhm didnt run 0.7 on a win8 yet but i cant imagine it makes much more trouble than win10

If you are really desperate you can try downloading some microsoft bloatware http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=13523

Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64)

The Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64) installs runtime components of Visual C++ Libraries required to run 64-bit applications developed with Visual C++ 2010 SP1 on a computer that does not have Visual C++ 2010 SP1 installed.

@Deleted User did you move the teeworlds.exe out of the folder? Does your teeworlds folder include a mvs.dll ?

Dune 17-Jun-19 10:30 AM

@ChillerDragon already suggested that, he says he did

Deleted User 17-Jun-19 10:31 AM

Nop, it's in the teeworlds folder

And y, I do not find the dll

I even downloaded the dll and put it in the tw folder, didn't work

Dune 17-Jun-19 10:31 AM

Shouldn't be in there anyway

Deleted User 17-Jun-19 10:31 AM

For Mvc I tried kinda every versions

Does not work

Dune 17-Jun-19 03:23 PM

@Deleted User you downloaded 64-bit teeworlds?

Deleted User 17-Jun-19 03:23 PM

Jup xd

Dune 17-Jun-19 03:24 PM

Have you tried the MSVC15 64-bit redistributable package specifically? https://aka.ms/vs/15/release/vc_redist.x64.exe

Deleted User 17-Jun-19 04:13 PM

Nop, gonna try it tonight

Sonix 18-Jun-19 07:22 AM

Install both 64 and 32 just in case

WTrawi 19-Jun-19 10:22 AM

Joined the server.

pfff

Arseniy Zarche 22-Jun-19 07:35 AM

https://youtu.be/ihbChAy77O8

Arseniy Zarche

Teeworlds - medniy kuporos

Привет! :) У нас тут стримчик… попробуем? Донат - https://www.donationalerts.com/r/cen940k

yavl 22-Jun-19 11:19 AM

@Arseniy Zarche when?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 22-Jun-19 03:54 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 22-Jun-19 05:59 PM

I STILL CAN'T PLAY ON THIS FUCKING 0.7

WTrawi 22-Jun-19 05:59 PM

Sonix 22-Jun-19 06:02 PM

lmao

Deleted User 22-Jun-19 06:02 PM

I'm trying the ultimate clue

Downloading tw by steam

Dune 22-Jun-19 06:03 PM

Doesn't change a thing normally

Deleted User 22-Jun-19 06:06 PM

Idk, gonna try

Ddnet is working perfectly ? :/

Not working on steam too :/

Deleted User 22-Jun-19 06:50 PM

would be interesting to know if a gcc compiled version would work

Deleted User 22-Jun-19 09:02 PM

@Dune it seems like @Deleted User wasn't able to start tw because vs redistributable 2015 is missing and both sdl and freetype are linked against the 2015 version...

Dune 22-Jun-19 09:02 PM

yeah @Deleted User

Deleted User 22-Jun-19 09:02 PM

which may not be found, for whatever reason

Dune 22-Jun-19 09:02 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2082

User can't start Teeworlds, gets "VCRUNTIME140.dll not found" erro...

Got a support request for a user that gets "System Error-----...VCRUNTIME140.dll was not found" when running Teeworlds. Windows 10 first-time install, so I assume no settings.cfg....

Deleted User 22-Jun-19 09:04 PM

yea

I gave him a custom client, linked against a older sdl2 and freetype version which seems to work

at least he can play 0.7 now

Dune 22-Jun-19 09:11 PM

it's not really a long term solution iirc because older sdl2 have some issues for some players :/ maybe we should keep backup builds for this issue

@heinrich5991 what do you think? (edited)

ChillerDragon 22-Jun-19 09:22 PM

But didn’t ddnet update Libs as well?

@Deleted User does latest ddnet client work for you?

Dune 22-Jun-19 09:23 PM

we're talking 0.7

ChillerDragon 22-Jun-19 09:25 PM

And? Isn’t the problem about libs? How do those get affected by tw version?

Dune 22-Jun-19 09:27 PM

read the issue

ChillerDragon 22-Jun-19 09:36 PM

@Dune ah yes the issue had the idea already. axblk said how ddnet solved that.

Deleted User 22-Jun-19 09:49 PM

Jup it is @ChillerDragon

Sonix 22-Jun-19 09:55 PM

I had a similar issue sometime ago on a laptop

This helped me

https://ugetfix.com/ask/how-to-fix-vcruntime140-dll-is-missing-error-on-windows/

UGetFix.com

How to Fix VCRUNTIME140.dll is Missing Error on Windows?

Hello. Recently I am not able to run Photoshop, and Skype due to “The program can’t start because VCRUNTIME140.dll is missing from your computer” error. I have never heard of the file, and I have no clue where it is located.

Deleted User 22-Jun-19 11:41 PM

Thx to share this when my problem is solved @Sonix

Sonix 22-Jun-19 11:47 PM

its solved for ya not for everyone else

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jxsl13 23-Jun-19 10:10 PM

zcatch servers are super laggy, pls stop porn downloads

:'c

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jun-19 07:17 PM

ЖВ

noby 25-Jun-19 12:33 AM

i cannot see the area im supposed to type in

its cutoff on osx

and i cant change the resolution either, it alwayss changes itself back to 1280x800 even when i restart and change in .cfg

pls fix

@Dune

Dune 25-Jun-19 12:37 AM

I don't know about OSX and can't reproduce

noby 25-Jun-19 12:37 AM

who should i ask

Dune 25-Jun-19 01:15 AM

Write an issue i guess

Maybe @ChillerDragon can somehow reproduce

noby 25-Jun-19 03:34 AM

how to write issue

plsplsplslol 25-Jun-19 04:35 AM

just dont use mac

Skayland 25-Jun-19 05:57 AM

(edited)

Skayland 25-Jun-19 06:04 AM

Who is the maintaner of the mac binaries?

ChillerDragon 25-Jun-19 08:14 AM

I think we fixed something like that already? I’m not sure. rqza reported that his 0.7 works better on Mac than ddnet lol

Maybe you should finally switch to fullscreen @noby :p

noby 25-Jun-19 08:16 AM

i want to be able to cmd+tab without it lagging for seconds everytime which fullscreen does (edited)

and i want to be able to pick my own screen resolution so that i can at least see the area im supposed to type chat messages in (edited)

ChillerDragon 25-Jun-19 09:08 AM

0.7 supports tabbing pretty well on macOS give it a try

I don't say we don't want to fix that because you have an alternative. Its just something i suggest until it is fixed @noby because that might take a while

noby 25-Jun-19 09:11 AM

@ChillerDragon ok fair enough im just trying to report the problem and im not sure what dune means by write an issue

ChillerDragon 25-Jun-19 09:12 AM

github issues u gitlab fag :p

if you mod would be open source you would know what an issue is because it would be spammed by me hehe @noby

noby 25-Jun-19 09:13 AM

lol

well i would still like to hear about the issues with my servers even without open source

n000b 25-Jun-19 09:53 AM

@noby u nobo

Even i knew what he meant

ChillerDragon 25-Jun-19 10:08 AM

onbgy i told u 100 times but you are always to lazy and you forget the things xd i can write you a wall on private channel

ChillerDragon 25-Jun-19 11:34 AM

what is this channel @heinrich5991 ?

heinrich5991 25-Jun-19 11:39 AM

some rarely used private chat

ChillerDragon 25-Jun-19 11:40 AM

I wonder why I can't see it with the standard discord client

heinrich5991 25-Jun-19 11:41 AM

because the standard discord client doesn't show channels you can't read

ChillerDragon 25-Jun-19 11:41 AM

ah

heinrich5991 25-Jun-19 11:41 AM

I actually wonder why the discord servers send them at all

ChillerDragon 25-Jun-19 11:42 AM

thats what i was wondering ye

ShootXen 25-Jun-19 08:41 PM

War is coming.(0.7)

AkoPMas 26-Jun-19 08:41 PM

Joined the server.

reaper 26-Jun-19 10:26 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 27-Jun-19 09:59 PM

any teeworlds skin artists in here?

Deleted User 27-Jun-19 10:33 PM

graphic design is my passion

jxsl13 27-Jun-19 11:05 PM

could you create a skin for me :D? @Deleted User

not exactly for me, but I'd use it to see the other party using it

mkjol 29-Jun-19 02:53 PM

Joined the server.

5

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mkjol 30-Jun-19 03:26 PM

Joined the server.

Henlo again

Deleted User 30-Jun-19 03:36 PM

why rejoin

mkjol 30-Jun-19 03:37 PM

why not

Luulkas 30-Jun-19 03:54 PM

Joined the server.

:°

mkjol 30-Jun-19 03:55 PM

OwO

Luulkas 30-Jun-19 03:56 PM

ok enough

bye lmao

mkjol 30-Jun-19 03:59 PM

I'll just leave it here

.｡✿*ﾟץυηα‘ﾟ･✿.｡. 30-Jun-19 04:03 PM

Joined the server.

Zatline 30-Jun-19 04:07 PM

wow

mkjol 30-Jun-19 04:09 PM

yeah I have a problem

.｡✿*ﾟץυηα‘ﾟ･✿.｡. 30-Jun-19 04:11 PM

o

Furret 30-Jun-19 05:04 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 30-Jun-19 05:08 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 30-Jun-19 05:17 PM

;c

communos 30-Jun-19 05:46 PM

Joined the server.

U

mkjol 30-Jun-19 06:09 PM

thanks to me for all these new users

OwO

.｡✿*ﾟץυηα‘ﾟ･✿.｡. 30-Jun-19 06:39 PM

Righ

t

KoleOBlack 30-Jun-19 06:41 PM

~~How exactly do laser hitboxes work?~~

Teelevision 30-Jun-19 07:13 PM

nope, thanks to @ReiTW

mkjol 30-Jun-19 07:27 PM

@Teelevision http://puu.sh/DMTAj.png

I joined this server before he sent me the link after (edited)

So no, thanks to me

Tlenojuk 30-Jun-19 07:27 PM

Joined the server.

Teelevision 30-Jun-19 07:57 PM

but he sent the invite everyone used... so thanks to @ReiTW

m!ki 30-Jun-19 07:58 PM

who cares who invited ? xd

3

Teelevision 30-Jun-19 07:58 PM

he does and that needs to be corrected

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mkjol 30-Jun-19 08:10 PM

@Teelevision well, I joined here, he noticed and asked me about it, I told him to send the invite again

so here we are

partly my fault and his

Tlenojuk 30-Jun-19 08:30 PM

Oh

Teelevision 30-Jun-19 08:38 PM

anyway

bye

Tlenojuk 30-Jun-19 08:41 PM

Okay

-1 boi

w13z 30-Jun-19 09:38 PM

Joined the server.

Barneey. 30-Jun-19 10:14 PM

Joined the server.

ToxicTee 01-Jul-19 12:17 AM

Joined the server.

rrmode 01-Jul-19 05:17 AM

Joined the server.

Tlenojuk 01-Jul-19 08:57 AM

too many bois

mkjol 01-Jul-19 11:08 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

klenha 01-Jul-19 03:05 PM

wtf

KoleOBlack 01-Jul-19 06:24 PM

k.

communos 02-Jul-19 07:01 AM

gai

i came here from vannilla server

yes

teeworlds 02-Jul-19 08:02 PM

Joined the server.

heinrich5991 02-Jul-19 08:41 PM

this discord is now also available under https://discord.gg/teeworlds

we could have a custom invite background and server banner background, so if anyone has a good idea…

m!ki 02-Jul-19 08:48 PM

nice ^^

Dune 02-Jul-19 09:21 PM

oh we get the official badge now :)

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jxsl13 02-Jul-19 11:52 PM

Dune 02-Jul-19 11:58 PM

I think @Ryozuki did the twitch banner

ChillerDragon 03-Jul-19 12:03 AM

Ryo is main tw artist now? xd

but to be fair i like the twitch banner.

1

Deleted User 03-Jul-19 03:21 AM

Anyone could send city code lines?

1

Deleted User 03-Jul-19 08:33 AM

Joined the server.

ChillerDragon 03-Jul-19 11:09 AM

what are city code lines? xd

m_pPlayer->m_xp++;

1

here you go

ReiTW 03-Jul-19 12:26 PM

@ChillerDragon u forgot lvl up

ChillerDragon 03-Jul-19 12:38 PM

ah true he wants multiple lines if(m_pPlayer->m_xp > 9000) { m_pPlayer->m_level++; GameServer()->SendChatTarget(m_pPlayer->GetCID(), "lvl up!"); }

m!ki 03-Jul-19 12:39 PM

reset xp?

ChillerDragon 03-Jul-19 12:45 PM

woops

might be a bit spammy xd

Deleted User 03-Jul-19 02:39 PM

If you can send them for free i would be happy

(edited)

Assa 03-Jul-19 05:29 PM

m_pMiki->SetXP(0);

m!ki 03-Jul-19 05:29 PM

wrong

Assa 03-Jul-19 05:30 PM

"Your level isn't high enough to answer"

Skayland 03-Jul-19 06:39 PM

mobro 04-Jul-19 04:36 AM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 04-Jul-19 01:38 PM

@Deleted User I thought your city is done? ^

2

Deleted User 04-Jul-19 01:46 PM

Mmh we had some problems with source code + we were being ddosed all the time so we abandoned the project...

Tlenojuk 04-Jul-19 02:05 PM

// read udp data while there is data to read :) while ((dataSize = m_UDPSocket.recv(&from, (char *)data, sizeof(data))) > 0) { // compare the received data size to the expected size if (dataSize == HEARTBEAT_SIZE) { char *d = data; int32 signature; d = ReadInt32(d, &signature); // make sure the signature is correct if (signature == HEARTBEAT_SIGNATURE) { CServerInfo info; info.Deserialize(d); from.port = 8303; info.SetAddress(&from); dbg_msg("got heartbeat", "IP: %i.%i.%i.%i:%i", (int)from.ip[0], (int)from.ip[1], (int)from.ip[2], (int)from.ip[3], from.port); dbg_msg("refresh", "okay. server count: %i", m_ServerCount); ProcessHeartBeat(info); }

RazerShazer 04-Jul-19 03:05 PM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 05-Jul-19 04:37 PM

who is the admin in monster mod ?

ChillerDragon 05-Jul-19 05:10 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 admin of the servers or creator of the mod?

and what mod / server are you talking about

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 05-Jul-19 05:12 PM

the monster mod by @Neox

Neox 05-Jul-19 05:31 PM

I don't know exactly what he's been referring to. I think he is in a server and looks for the admin of that server

Deleted User 05-Jul-19 05:33 PM

"let me speak to yur manager"

ReiTW 06-Jul-19 04:00 AM

@Neox who're u

Neox 06-Jul-19 04:01 AM

someone

ReiTW 06-Jul-19 04:01 AM

:v)

Skayland 06-Jul-19 05:48 AM

Its hard for me to believe there is people that doesnt know neox

I mean damn, he created monster, i love that mod

And nx|city

Deleted User 06-Jul-19 10:38 AM

+ he's moderator on if city

ChillerDragon 06-Jul-19 12:56 PM

well a big part of the community stays away from such type of mods xd

since tw is a raw highskilled game these lvl non skill farm2win / pay2win gametypes are quite th eopposite of what people search in tw

Deleted User 06-Jul-19 01:17 PM

more like afk2win

Vortex34-Vivo34 06-Jul-19 02:31 PM

Joined the server.

hello la famille

Skayland 06-Jul-19 03:14 PM

Yea but monster is nice anyway

Vy0x2 06-Jul-19 03:17 PM

Joined the server.

ReiTW 06-Jul-19 05:22 PM

Is there any diff btw 0.6's physics & 0.7's one?

Dune 06-Jul-19 05:42 PM

there's that: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1936

deathtiles still skipable? · Issue #1936 · teeworlds/teeworlds

So in 0.6 it was possible to skip 1tile wide deathtiles with enough speed caused by either ninja sword, or enough grenade spam and gravity. This is probably only relevant in Race but still it would...

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 06-Jul-19 09:42 PM

so who is the admin in monster mod ? (i just need the pass)

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ReiTW 06-Jul-19 09:54 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 Which monster mod, you talk like if everyone knows about it

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 06-Jul-19 10:06 PM

wait

this

Monster is a mod, where there are bots which are symbolized with weapons, and which are called monsters. This mod is kind like zChaos, but bots are not tee's, they are moving weapons. It isn't a single weapon, it would be ugly, it's something that makes you thinking that's a bad monster, so don't think that's a single weapon which can't do anything, it's much more. So as I said it, this mod is kind like zChaos, but different. There are waves, the score is symbolized as money, you can place a wall which, instead of killing like in zChaos, deals 10 damage, there are upgrades, a vote menu and a nicely coded path, which is opensource. About walls, you just need to have 10 armors and after that, aim and shot with your hammer. The wall will take its maximum lenght except if there is a collision between the max lenght and the pos of the player (which is the start pos of it) You can configure the max lenght using

m!ki 06-Jul-19 10:33 PM

so? what's the point?

Deleted User 06-Jul-19 11:03 PM

3 rotating weapons new skin confirmed

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 06-Jul-19 11:06 PM

yes, now i want how to have the server + pass

darkball1000 07-Jul-19 04:39 AM

Joined the server.

n000b 07-Jul-19 06:16 AM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 get your own server

ReiTW 07-Jul-19 07:34 AM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 you didn't understand me when i've asked u

Deleted User 07-Jul-19 09:32 AM

oh, this one. Monster was the absolute wtf when I first played it.

Teeworlds is better than discord. You don't have to talk to people, you can just shoot them in the face with a shotgun. Repeatedly.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 07-Jul-19 11:25 AM

i want a copy of the server of @Neox

jxsl13 07-Jul-19 11:29 AM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10413

[MOD] Monster (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

[MOD] Monster (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 07-Jul-19 11:35 AM

i have already see that

jxsl13 07-Jul-19 11:45 AM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 , you download the game server, that's listed under "Binaries" and run it either on your home pc(usually you need to forward ports for that in your router) or you pay monthly for some virtual private server/dedicated server and run that game server 24/7 on that. Alternatively you could compile the game server from the source code on your specific machine/operating system.

might maybe help you, even tho those videos are rather bad. https://www.youtube.com/user/jxsl13/videos (missing linux server setup)

jxsl13

Welcome :)

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 07-Jul-19 11:49 AM

thx

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 07-Jul-19 12:07 PM

i can't open the server

ReiTW 07-Jul-19 01:21 PM

@jxsl13 " even tho those videos are rather bad" still better than nothing, while it explains correctly

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Stippler 08-Jul-19 07:38 PM

Joined the server.

plsplsplslol 08-Jul-19 07:45 PM

stippler :O

Stippler 08-Jul-19 08:59 PM

abcqwerty

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 09-Jul-19 01:46 PM

azertyabc

abcdefghijklmnopkrstuvwxyz

Tlenojuk 09-Jul-19 01:47 PM

seems legit

Assa 10-Jul-19 10:41 AM

does anyone have the tower defense maps? (The ones with the castle(s)?) Or the mapres

Assa 10-Jul-19 10:48 AM

got it

Deleted User 10-Jul-19 10:51 AM

just play the ninjago version of teeworlds

Assa 10-Jul-19 11:01 AM

when your own tileset is lost forever

communos 10-Jul-19 01:08 PM

kok

neuro 10-Jul-19 02:54 PM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 10-Jul-19 05:08 PM

@ChillerDragon send me ur servers plz

ChillerDragon 10-Jul-19 05:09 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 https://github.com/DDNetPP/DDNetPP

DDNetPP/DDNetPP

Based on DDraceNetwork by deen & contributors (www.ddnet.tw) which is based on the great game teeworlds (www.teeworlds.com). - DDNetPP/DDNetPP

Skayland 10-Jul-19 07:19 PM

teeworlds be like

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Assa 10-Jul-19 07:36 PM

fixed

Skayland 10-Jul-19 09:29 PM

ChillerDragon 10-Jul-19 11:30 PM

3

4

3

Dune 11-Jul-19 12:28 AM

@ChillerDragon I fixed steam (again), could you test that it still works on your home PC (the test branch)? just to make sure I didn't break anything

Tlenojuk 11-Jul-19 08:17 AM

uh oh

teeworlds designers

ChillerDragon 11-Jul-19 11:11 AM

@Dune i dont think you can break my home computer xd. I even removed all sdl libs out of the steam folder and it still worked

but if it makes you sleep better i tested it and you didnt break the unbreakable

i will test on a clean device as soon as i find one.

Dune 11-Jul-19 12:18 PM

@ChillerDragon well thanks then, it seems like it can only get better, the Frameworks folder was never found/used

Ryozuki 11-Jul-19 05:22 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGNiOJ3i5AE

DarkTwist3r

TeeWorlds music by Dark Twist3r (CJ AtOm)

Hi tees! This iss my remix on the great game: teeworlds

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WsY[FU]? 11-Jul-19 05:27 PM

tw menu music is best, i have it on my alarm

ChillerDragon 11-Jul-19 05:45 PM

no way u use tw musoic as alarm @WsY[FU]?

its the worst xd

who made it even? no hate but it ... yikes

WsY[FU]? 11-Jul-19 05:46 PM

wdym

its lit

ChillerDragon 11-Jul-19 05:46 PM

WsY[FU]? 11-Jul-19 05:49 PM

https://soundcloud.com/teetow

Teetow

I'm just a tiny, yellow ball making funky music. "Wii sports on crack" -- MorN

AlphaJon 11-Jul-19 06:04 PM

Joined the server.

tonalnik 11-Jul-19 09:42 PM

Joined the server.

Matodor 12-Jul-19 02:07 PM

dark twister, 2011 nice

he today https://soundcloud.com/the-drumkilla

The Drumkilla

Drumfunk / ambient-jungle producer from Russia. Labels: Burelom Music / Omni Music / Monochrome Recordings / Influenza Media / Geometry / Pandora Music Planet / WSR Music Also i have side-project @w

smitop 13-Jul-19 01:49 AM

Joined the server.

hi

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 13-Jul-19 07:15 PM

anyone can help me for create a server ? if yes send a dm

jxsl13 13-Jul-19 11:04 PM

what machine/operating system do you want to run your gameserver on, @𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 ?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 13-Jul-19 11:56 PM

in windows 10

jxsl13 14-Jul-19 12:23 AM

what's the actual problem? maybe some error messages? some explicit questions?

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 12:30 AM

probably starts at "what do I have to do to create a server?"

Thundercat 14-Jul-19 02:10 AM

Joined the server.

Assa 14-Jul-19 10:24 AM

findteeworlds_srv.exe, add autoexec.cfg, configure firewall, configure router

the last step is actually the hardest

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Jul-19 10:29 AM

the server say this: [5d2ae7f0][register]: chose 'master3.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats

and i don't understand

jxsl13 14-Jul-19 10:33 AM

that's saying that your server can be found online if sending heartbeat does not fail.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Jul-19 10:46 AM

what is pulsation sending ?

i had this too

ERROR: the master server reports that clients can not connect to this server. [5d2aecc2][register]: ERROR: configure your firewall/nat to let through udp on port 8303.

how to solve the problem ?

ChillerDragon 14-Jul-19 11:38 AM

forward / open your port

what os are you on?

is this a vps or a local machine?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Jul-19 12:15 PM

what is a vps

jxsl13 14-Jul-19 12:23 PM

well that means that you need to forward ports in your router in order for people to connect to your server from the internet. basically player -> internet -> your router -> home/local network -> your pc. a vps is a virtual server, like a pc that running 24/7 in some data centre, where the traffic route is something like this: player -> internet -> your vps

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Jul-19 01:06 PM

ah ok (edited)

Assa 14-Jul-19 02:15 PM

how do i do range bans?

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 02:16 PM

ban_range 1.2.0.0 1.2.255.255 10 reason

Assa 14-Jul-19 02:17 PM

thank you

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 02:17 PM

bans all IPs starting with 1.2. for 10 minutes with the reason "reason"

jxsl13 14-Jul-19 02:20 PM

does 0.7 support ip v6 bans/range bans?

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 02:21 PM

yes

jxsl13 14-Jul-19 02:21 PM

uuh, that's nice

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 02:21 PM

ban_range 2001::0 2001:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff 0 lol to ban the IPv6 internet for life I think

jxsl13 14-Jul-19 02:22 PM

2001?

what's the rest used for?

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 02:23 PM

ah no, just starting with 2

not with 2001

so ban everything from 2000 to 2fff

Dune 14-Jul-19 02:32 PM

IPv6 users HATE him!

2

1

learn this one weird trick today

2

Assa 14-Jul-19 02:49 PM

i just banned 2^16-1 ip addresses

Every server in europe should ban these

https://lite.ip2location.com/china-ip-address-ranges

China IP Address Ranges

Complete list of IP address ranges in China. The data source is IP2Location DB1 LITE database.

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 02:54 PM

china should have more than 65k IP addresses

why do you ban chinese IP addresses?

if you're serious about banning them, using an OS-level firewall is probably better

iptables/nftables on linux, e.g.

Assa 14-Jul-19 02:56 PM

why should a chinese player ever try to join on a europe server?

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 02:56 PM

because they have friends there

Assa 14-Jul-19 02:56 PM

with ping 500?

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 02:56 PM

yep

maybe just chatting

Assa 14-Jul-19 02:57 PM

china has a landwide firewall

gl with that

every packet from china will be a server attack

even google is not in China

Dune 14-Jul-19 03:47 PM

like @heinrich5991 said, it would make more sense blocking server attacks on the OS level than with teeworlds bans

Assa 14-Jul-19 04:05 PM

yes i know

dedicated hardware is always faster

Dune 14-Jul-19 04:07 PM

it's more that you would be less vulnerable

heinrich5991 14-Jul-19 04:08 PM

@Assa blocking on the OS level is still software, it's just your operating system doing stuff instead of teeworlds

and the OS probably has less bugs concerning dropping packets than teeworlds does

and does so earlier, so win-win

Assa 14-Jul-19 04:09 PM

yes, I know the ISO OSI model, thats why dedicated hardware would be fastest and probably best

and most expensive

OS level is cheaper ofc

ReiTW 14-Jul-19 06:07 PM

bpfilter best

OsuIst 14-Jul-19 08:53 PM

Is it normal that there are not so many server online?

m!ki 14-Jul-19 08:54 PM

You talk about server list or?

OsuIst 14-Jul-19 08:54 PM

Yea

m!ki 14-Jul-19 08:54 PM

Refresh it few times. Masters are under ddos attack.

OsuIst 14-Jul-19 08:54 PM

doesnt help

only 40 are online and half of them with bad ping

ReiTW 14-Jul-19 09:30 PM

@OsuIst refresh faster (edited)

and multiple times, until u see correctly

jxsl13 14-Jul-19 10:15 PM

which teeworlds version are you on, @OsuIst 0.7 or 0.6?

OsuIst 14-Jul-19 10:24 PM

I am using the newest DDRAce client, but refreshing helped

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Jul-19 10:25 PM

who knew the pass in Monster mod by @Neox ? if yes send DM

OsuIst 14-Jul-19 10:25 PM

hey Samus I saw u on a server today

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Jul-19 10:25 PM

who knew the pass in Monster mod by @Neox ? if yes send DM @everyone

Skayland 14-Jul-19 10:32 PM

Wtf

ReiTW 14-Jul-19 11:10 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 could you stop annoying @Neox please

you're pinging him, it's annoying

Neox 14-Jul-19 11:11 PM

I blocked him so I don't see his pings. I did see yours, though

but thanks anyway @ReiTW ❤ (edited)

Still love you

ReiTW 14-Jul-19 11:12 PM

@Neox

:v)

Nicky Larson 15-Jul-19 04:07 PM

Joined the server.

JeFf 15-Jul-19 04:10 PM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 15-Jul-19 07:05 PM

ah sry

Deleted User 15-Jul-19 08:37 PM

Do someone got a way to put the dyn bind ?

On a same key?

WsY[FU]? 15-Jul-19 08:39 PM

toggle cl_dynamic_camera 1 0

Deleted User 15-Jul-19 08:40 PM

It's working on a same key ? :o

WsY[FU]? 15-Jul-19 08:40 PM

in 0.7 yes

Deleted User 15-Jul-19 08:40 PM

Dang

WsY[FU]? 15-Jul-19 08:41 PM

for 0.6 dyn bind with vanilla client you need to make exec bind

Deleted User 15-Jul-19 08:41 PM

Jup

Thanks :(

WsY[FU]? 15-Jul-19 08:42 PM

You need 0.6 bind?

Deleted User 15-Jul-19 08:44 PM

Nop

All is gud

iParano 15-Jul-19 09:01 PM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 15-Jul-19 11:04 PM

yep

Iman 16-Jul-19 01:34 AM

Joined the server.

hello

jxsl13 16-Jul-19 02:01 AM

hey pendawan

Bishal 16-Jul-19 02:33 PM

Joined the server.

Assa 16-Jul-19 02:36 PM

lol, thats not the irc bishal

Bishal 16-Jul-19 02:42 PM

Joined the server.

assa

then where is ther IRC

Dune 16-Jul-19 05:52 PM

On #bridge

Tlenojuk 17-Jul-19 09:04 AM

@vv17ch0u7 hewwooo

Filouz 17-Jul-19 11:53 AM

Joined the server.

Tlenojuk 17-Jul-19 02:06 PM

so what

teecloud is only master online to 0.6

ReiTW 17-Jul-19 03:04 PM

@Tlenojuk false

Tlenojuk 17-Jul-19 03:08 PM

ReiTW 17-Jul-19 03:19 PM

@Tlenojuk ah thought you meant he's not op for 0.7

well master4 is also for 0.6 but it's a shitty one

Tlenojuk 17-Jul-19 03:19 PM

Ddnet one

Assa 17-Jul-19 07:34 PM

any mapper here who works with the automapper feature?

ChillerDragon 17-Jul-19 08:04 PM

y

Deleted User 18-Jul-19 06:07 PM

Joined the server.

ToxicTee 18-Jul-19 08:26 PM

@Assa y

Arseniy Zarche 19-Jul-19 05:56 AM

guys

who interested in xpanic

https://discord.gg/sveTBa

@Assa y

ChillerDragon 19-Jul-19 11:37 AM

is it that xpanic that spammed my server to advertise it self? xd

ReiTW 19-Jul-19 11:44 AM

@Arseniy Zarche what's this mod tho

dafq I leave

3

full of soviets

1

3

2

ShootXen 19-Jul-19 02:15 PM

your french of course your leaving

ReiTW 19-Jul-19 02:36 PM

@ShootXen urss lost the cold war

Tlenojuk 19-Jul-19 02:46 PM

french lost... everything?

what did french win?

Arseniy Zarche 19-Jul-19 02:50 PM

@ChillerDragon i VERY sorry My user was spammed via lua in ath

Sorry pls

I can give u bobus

bonus

ReiTW 19-Jul-19 02:55 PM

@Tlenojuk we've been doing baguettes since a long time

I think if there was a baguette competition

everyone would loose against us

Tlenojuk 19-Jul-19 02:56 PM

okay then

Russians pet bears since a long time

ReiTW 19-Jul-19 03:02 PM

@Tlenojuk french made the rafale

best fcking shit airplane

1

Tlenojuk 19-Jul-19 03:02 PM

Russians made Putin

ReiTW 19-Jul-19 03:02 PM

fck I give up

2

Tlenojuk 19-Jul-19 03:02 PM

best fcking putin

Deleted User 19-Jul-19 03:15 PM

@ReiTW at least we know how it feels to be punished by the udssr, something you won't ever know xD

but we survived. what about france?

ReiTW 19-Jul-19 03:19 PM

Rip

2

szkuta 21-Jul-19 01:05 PM

what's default cl_mouse_max_distance? 400?

Dune 21-Jul-19 01:45 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=client_settings

400 and 1000

plsplsplslol 21-Jul-19 07:18 PM

400 default 1000 with dyncam

NanoK 22-Jul-19 02:17 AM

Joined the server.

hola

soy luffy

quien se mete a blocker??

laury* estas

ja eres tu

tu dummy se llama jaj

NanoK 22-Jul-19 02:33 AM

https://discord.gg/YnEwaX

NanoK 22-Jul-19 02:57 AM

quien habla español?

ellukasculiao 22-Jul-19 03:19 AM

Joined the server.

NanoK 22-Jul-19 03:21 AM

hola

Deleted User 22-Jul-19 07:46 AM

i speek einglesh

Bishal 22-Jul-19 11:24 AM

#bridge

Dune 22-Jul-19 11:36 AM

@NanoK english only

jao 22-Jul-19 03:50 PM

Joined the server.

2

WhiteKitty 22-Jul-19 10:56 PM

Joined the server.

NanoK 23-Jul-19 01:34 AM

quien habla español¡

?

Iman 23-Jul-19 09:50 AM

english only

es un ingles chat @NanoK . no podemos hablar espanol aqui

Pash 23-Jul-19 06:13 PM

Joined the server.

@Assa

Assa

?

Um... Assa? : P (edited)

Well

Pash 23-Jul-19 07:56 PM

I am Getting Blocked!

@android272 or @guenstig werben or anyone from two way

guenstig werben 23-Jul-19 07:57 PM

?

Pash 23-Jul-19 07:57 PM

i am getting blocked Multimap_less

Капухик 23-Jul-19 07:57 PM

Joined the server.

Pash 23-Jul-19 07:57 PM

Go To Multimap Less I'll Tell

Guesnstig will u go?

android272 23-Jul-19 07:58 PM

What is going on?

Pash 23-Jul-19 07:58 PM

I am Getting blocked MultiMap_less

Капухик 23-Jul-19 07:58 PM

android272 23-Jul-19 07:58 PM

what is MultiMap_less?

Pash 23-Jul-19 07:58 PM

A Teeworlds Map

android272 23-Jul-19 07:59 PM

ok? So what do you mean your getting blocked?

Pash 23-Jul-19 07:59 PM

Troll

They Are Putting Me In The White Thing Makes Me Ninja And Cannot Move

Just Go And Ban Them For Some Mins

Deleted User 23-Jul-19 08:00 PM

are you playing ddnet or smth

Капухик 23-Jul-19 08:00 PM

xd

Too fun

Pash 23-Jul-19 08:00 PM

Yeh

ddRACE

DDracce

Deleted User 23-Jul-19 08:01 PM

this isnt the discord for ddRACE nor DDrace

Pash 23-Jul-19 08:01 PM

Well

It Is

TeeWorlds

For All TeeWorlds Games

Ugh

@Assa

Dune 23-Jul-19 08:05 PM

@Pash don't ping random people they won't be able to help you

Капухик 23-Jul-19 08:08 PM

thx for ban adm

Assa 23-Jul-19 08:09 PM

no problem, deserved ^.^

Hawk 23-Jul-19 08:35 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 23-Jul-19 08:35 PM

Well, you probably can run this MultiMap_less locally and git gud at the first part. You need one guy to keep blocker busy while others pass him buy, if you can pass the first part on your first-third try, nobody can stop you from going.

Pash 23-Jul-19 08:40 PM

@Dune Welp whos admin idk there is no admin spot i take from two

Dune 23-Jul-19 08:41 PM

ask on the server, there is no "central" teeworlds admin

Капухик 23-Jul-19 08:42 PM

@Assa

Pash 23-Jul-19 08:44 PM

Well Well

D4AVID Used VPN Well Nic

Assa 23-Jul-19 08:52 PM

thats a problem with teeworlds by design

can't ban people using vpn

Dune 23-Jul-19 08:53 PM

you can ban range

Assa 23-Jul-19 08:59 PM

some vpns are still using dynamic ip addresses

Deleted User 23-Jul-19 09:24 PM

i know multimap but multimap_less

Volvicc 23-Jul-19 10:10 PM

Joined the server.

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:22 PM

how to change nickname on github xD

does someone know?

ah found

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:23 PM

that will break all links to your repos

heinrich5991 23-Jul-19 10:25 PM

eh, my fault

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:25 PM

yep, i don't have any reposs

heinrich5991 23-Jul-19 10:25 PM

the inline

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:25 PM

@Dune

sorry for ping

but

congrats for start be active since october 2018 :)

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:26 PM

thanks :)

gotta patch up 0.7 thingies

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:27 PM

i think about making mod on 0.7 or 0.6

idk

what do you advice?

i think 0.7

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:28 PM

depend on what you're looking for, I only work on 0.7

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:28 PM

rly? hm

i know that the general amount of players is playing 0.6

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:29 PM

0.6 servers are vulnerable to reflection attacks and not fixable

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:29 PM

but in future, when ddnet (maybe) will patched up to 0.7...

what is the reflection attacks?

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:29 PM

but most of the content and of the playerbase is there, yes

a masterserver exploit that lets you ddos servers

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:30 PM

ah ok

i was ddosed on 0.6 a few times

it was very bad

my server fallen down

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:31 PM

yes, it's because of that issue. 0.7 was released to palliate to that

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:31 PM

really?

that very good

so i will make mod on 0.7 xD

maybe MAYBE

if this mod will be interesting

players will come 0.7

some players

8-14 (edited)

;D

so

i can download libs and compile 0.7 or what?

@Dune

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:32 PM

https://teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=hacking

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:33 PM

nooooooo.

ah

i need python 3

for 0.7

i can download the newest python, yes?

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:33 PM

Python 3.x support is introduced with Teeworlds 0.6.0.

python 3 is not necessary afaik

(could be wrong :) )

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:35 PM

am i need add python 3 to path?

to PATH*

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:35 PM

I don't think that is necessary

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:35 PM

ok, thanks

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:35 PM

I mean, you need it in order to use python3, but I don't think you need python3

(you don't need VS17 either ;) )

heinrich5991 23-Jul-19 10:36 PM

you should probably install python 3 anyway

python 2 end of life is 2020-01-01

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:36 PM

huh :-(

muh print "hello world" (edited)

heinrich5991 23-Jul-19 10:37 PM

https://pythonclock.org/

Python 2.7 Countdown

Python 2.7 will retire in 2020. Learn more and see the countdown here.

1

having printing to stdout as a special case in the language felt weird to me tbh

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:38 PM

wow

i thought that 2020 is far

but i seen the right-bot corner

and so

"WTF" (edited)

sorry for my grammar, I'm russian :\

Dune 23-Jul-19 10:39 PM

haha, well teeworlds is already 10, and python will be 20

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:42 PM

yeees...

so long

teeworlds is already 10

python is 20

and me is 15

i'm teehon or pyworlds

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jul-19 10:52 PM

yep?

or teewohon

on this stage msvc installer is crashing

i hate net framework 4.5 and newer

because with them i can't compile teeworlds

i have lnk1123

Dune 23-Jul-19 11:32 PM

Why are you installing msvc

If you could compile tw0.6 you have a sufficient cpp compiler

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jul-19 12:11 AM

0.7

Dune 24-Jul-19 12:41 AM

yes, no need to install another compiler

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jul-19 12:27 PM

ok so is 0.6 fixed?

@Dune

Dune 24-Jul-19 12:28 PM

fixed?

how?

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jul-19 12:30 PM

idk

i'm talking about system.h

Dune 24-Jul-19 12:37 PM

No

Remove the "inline" by yourself

My train took fire I can't upload a patch :D

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jul-19 12:42 PM

delete the whole inline?

inline unsigned uint32_from_be(const void *bytes) { const unsigned char *b = (const unsigned char *)bytes; return (b[0]<<24)|(b[1]<<16)|(b[2]<<8)|b[3]; }

Dune 24-Jul-19 12:42 PM

Only the word inline

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jul-19 12:43 PM

ah ok

xd

matrix

@Dune may i ping you so often? sorry pls

Dune 24-Jul-19 12:47 PM

Don't worry I'm stuck in a train for hours.

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jul-19 12:49 PM

what the train? i can't understand

real train?

Oh, sorry

I'm very bad

How are you?

Dune 24-Jul-19 12:54 PM

Run bam -c

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jul-19 12:56 PM

bam -c server_release? (edited)

doesn't work

Dune 24-Jul-19 01:00 PM

I don't know then

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jul-19 01:06 PM

hm ok

thanks for help

and...

sorry for annoying pings and good luck in your train

Assa 24-Jul-19 04:43 PM

const unsigned char *b = (const unsigned char *)bytes; this line is actually not well, because you don't need to cast a void* and there are reasons you shouldn't!

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/605845/do-i-cast-the-result-of-malloc

Do I cast the result of malloc?

In this question, someone suggested in a comment that I should not cast the result of malloc, i.e. int *sieve = malloc(sizeof(int) * length); rather than: int *sieve = (int *) malloc(sizeof(int) *

just a note (edited)

jxsl13 24-Jul-19 05:11 PM

(Y)

Alain Soral 24-Jul-19 06:03 PM

Joined the server.

Alain Soral 24-Jul-19 06:42 PM

did someone know how to change crosshair

Pash 24-Jul-19 06:49 PM

yeah

remove it all

Dune 24-Jul-19 06:51 PM

in data/game.png

Arseniy Zarche 24-Jul-19 06:56 PM

can't connect to server. what i should do?

i can see it in my favorites

but can't connect

i know

rofl

it's 0.7 server

sorry ^_^

with 0.6 i can't connect too 0.0

pls help... :(

Dune 24-Jul-19 07:27 PM

0.0 ?

Your server works fine

Assa 24-Jul-19 08:00 PM

maybe your tcp ports arent open?

teeworlds server need both, udp for registering, and tcp for the client server connection

Deleted User 24-Jul-19 08:08 PM

nop

udp only

ReiTW 24-Jul-19 09:08 PM

wtf tcp xd

Pash 24-Jul-19 10:06 PM

@reaper

reaper 24-Jul-19 10:23 PM

yes?

Poilpuce 24-Jul-19 11:00 PM

Joined the server.

8-Ball 26-Jul-19 10:15 AM

Joined the server.

ello

8-Ball 26-Jul-19 01:43 PM

irclink hmm

1

m!ki 27-Jul-19 11:46 PM

http://prntscr.com/okwlzx

Screenshot

Captured with Lightshot

ah

teeworlds

Dune 27-Jul-19 11:56 PM

that's a hella lot of teeworldss

m!ki 28-Jul-19 12:25 AM

nah, just demos xd

Deleted User 28-Jul-19 12:32 AM

nice homework folder

Mayi 28-Jul-19 08:49 AM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 28-Jul-19 11:31 AM

wish there was a more comfortable way to montage demos, and maybe put annotations

could have a few weeks of teeworlds tv on your pc, they are smaller than videos

Deleted User 28-Jul-19 11:54 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZpJ4orta_o

TwiceRus

Teeworlds meme montage by ZiKkie

Dune 28-Jul-19 12:32 PM

@Deleted User annotations ? like the 0.7 ones?

Deleted User 28-Jul-19 12:42 PM

i meant, add some text on the screen somewhere mid demo

teeworlds can actually do this?

btw, what irc client would you recommend?

Dune 28-Jul-19 02:19 PM

ah no, annotations are just markers you can set ingame to find interesting timestamps later

I think it's not too wise to integrate video editing stuff into teeworlds, it takes development effort away from the game and video editing software does it better anyway

There are a bunch of simple IRC clients, I use hexchat but mostly kiwiirc.com cause I'm lazy

ChillerDragon 28-Jul-19 05:19 PM

i use the chat for annotations @Deleted User

Deleted User 28-Jul-19 05:35 PM

how to set an annotation? See nothing here https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=client_commands

also can you edit chat in the replay?

Dune 28-Jul-19 05:35 PM

not with the game

can't be too hard to do though

Garwex 28-Jul-19 05:45 PM

Joined the server.

Assa 28-Jul-19 11:09 PM

how can i see the complete blanlist from a server?

typing bans just clips the top and i can't see the top entries

Dune 28-Jul-19 11:43 PM

use econ

heinrich5991 29-Jul-19 12:21 AM

can't you use pgup to see previous pages?

Deleted User 29-Jul-19 01:39 AM

jxsl13 29-Jul-19 03:51 AM

pageup key above arrow keys

Assa 29-Jul-19 04:47 PM

this feature is new to me ^^ but nice

ChillerDragon 29-Jul-19 06:00 PM

lol most important feature how did u survive without it? o.O

Garwex 29-Jul-19 07:24 PM

@Assa help us felo is back xd

fat-cat 29-Jul-19 10:51 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 30-Jul-19 01:08 PM

@ChillerDragon is that a typo in your tw.com signature?

ChillerDragon 30-Jul-19 01:09 PM

wat?

bro i have typos in all my profile pictures its my style

i cant find one in my signature you probably mean "onbgy" xd

jxsl13 30-Jul-19 02:24 PM

exactly xD

ChillerDragon 30-Jul-19 02:36 PM

nah onbgy is a meme xd

Garwex 30-Jul-19 09:53 PM

admin help in multimap blocker xd

Iman 30-Jul-19 09:59 PM

hem do someone know how to bind inputs on a xbox360 controller on tw ?

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:03 PM

no UI yet (https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2056)

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1603

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

you have to use console

type joystick_ in f1, it autocompletes commands, forgot which

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:06 PM

joystick_tolerance joystick_x joystick_y

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:08 PM

try bind joystick0 +fire

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:09 PM

it works !

thx so much !

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:09 PM

not sure if you can find an ergonomic setup though ^^

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:09 PM

i will try to

can i remove the "cursor sliding" feature ?

i cannot bind anything on my LT and RT

or in my rightstick

or on my D-pad

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:22 PM

@Iman joystick0-12 does not work?

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:24 PM

wait

i'm trying to bind things on my joystick

joystick11 and 12 don't exist

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:27 PM

11 should exist

src/engine/client/keynames.h:442: "joystick11",

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:28 PM

10, 7 and 6 don't seems to work but i can bind things on it

9 and 8 are the joysticks clicks

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:28 PM

I don't have a joystick so it's a bit difficult to develop an UI for it

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:29 PM

ahahaha

i understand

well

can i remove "cursor sliding" ?

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:30 PM

not sure what that is, but probably not

if your cursor is having some noise, increase axis_tolerance

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:31 PM

by cursor sliding, i mean when u use the joystick ur cursor keep moving even if u stop moving the joystick

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:31 PM

not normal lol

what if you move opposite direction?

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:32 PM

how do i increase axis_tolerance from the console ?

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:32 PM

type axis_tolerance, check value, increase value

ranges 1-50 afaik

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:32 PM

i'm a noob about using console X)

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:32 PM

understandably, yeah, that's why we usually have UI for things

type axis_tolerance 30 for example

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:33 PM

"no such command" ?

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:33 PM

right, it's joystick_tolerance now

my bad

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:34 PM

uh

wow

rlly better

thx

can i use the right joystick for aiming instead of the left one ?

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:39 PM

good question

try changing joystick_x ? from 0 to 6

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:41 PM

don't work

can't move my cursor on the horizontal axis anymore

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:42 PM

so none of the values select the right joystick?

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:43 PM

uh

i will try some values

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:43 PM

please do

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:44 PM

what

the

fuck

value 2 binds ur horizontal move on LT

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:44 PM

hahaha

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:45 PM

joystick_x 3 seems to work

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:46 PM

change joystick_y too then

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:46 PM

don't work

i tried

i will try other values for joystick_y

Garwex 30-Jul-19 10:47 PM

help felo

multimap_L

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:48 PM

joystick_y 4 works @Dune !

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:49 PM

congrats @Iman you're a hacker now

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:49 PM

*H@ck3rz

is it possible to binds things on my left joystick moves, except the cursor move ?

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:53 PM

hmm

you need one joystick to move and one joystick to aim, right?

so yeah you should be able to bind moves

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:55 PM

how ?

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:56 PM

not sure, looking for it

Iman 30-Jul-19 10:56 PM

k

Dune 30-Jul-19 10:58 PM

does the control menus work to bind joystick keys?

Iman 30-Jul-19 11:00 PM

yes

forsome of them

but sometimes it's weird

for ex i bind x button for firing from control menu (edited)

it display joystick8

redo it

it display joystick3

Dune 30-Jul-19 11:02 PM

no idea how it works

Iman 30-Jul-19 11:03 PM

k

so how about binding things on joystick ?

i want to play right now but i will try to find a consistent setup on controller

thanks for help

Dune 30-Jul-19 11:06 PM

np I'll contact you if I figure

Iman 30-Jul-19 11:06 PM

ok

MMJ 31-Jul-19 12:57 PM

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arash 31-Jul-19 05:07 PM

Joined the server.

Hi

Who can fix my problem

I want to edit blmap pepe but whene i click on load and select the map ist not loaded

The other map is ok but i need edit this map for my block server pls help me

ChillerDragon 31-Jul-19 05:36 PM

there was a tool for encrpted maps somewhere on github...

Garwex 31-Jul-19 07:46 PM

Naxxramas is blocking (edited)

help xd

ChillerDragon 31-Jul-19 07:47 PM

?xd

Fares 31-Jul-19 11:38 PM

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hello

d+ 02-Aug-19 02:32 AM

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Movai 03-Aug-19 02:34 AM

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jason54 03-Aug-19 02:44 PM

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anyone knows how to activate TP like on run guy 25?

(ddrace)

Dune 03-Aug-19 02:48 PM

activate TP?

you shouldn't have to do anything to activate teleports

if it doesn't work maybe you are using a wrong map version

jason54 03-Aug-19 02:53 PM

there is a part 1/2/3 and to change part we need a tp zone but it's not working zone

Dune 03-Aug-19 02:54 PM

you shouldn't have to do anything to activate teleports if it doesn't work maybe you are using a wrong map version

jason54 03-Aug-19 02:56 PM

I'm using the latest map version

Dune 03-Aug-19 02:56 PM

probably a 0.6 map for 0.7 problem

jason54 03-Aug-19 02:57 PM

I use Map 0.7 and my server is 0.7

Dune 03-Aug-19 02:58 PM

I can check the map, what is your server?

jason54 03-Aug-19 03:01 PM

BlackPast

Destin 03-Aug-19 07:13 PM

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Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:42 PM

@Dune i need to ask you Is it normal that tee a bit fat?

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:43 PM

@Arseniy Zarche exercise more

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:43 PM

ah fuck

TNT 04-Aug-19 01:47 PM

Joined the server.

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:50 PM

ok i'm here

i just edited

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:51 PM

The eyes have been adjusted

But I think it is the same body size?

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:51 PM

see foot size

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:51 PM

@Sonix

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:51 PM

sonix?

he is the render master?

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:52 PM

no but he has a better eye

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:52 PM

i can compare them

in photoshop

for you

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:52 PM

@Zatline is the skin guy

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:52 PM

just put one to second and do transparency 50%

skins in 0.7 was changed?

tee is bigfoot

:D

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:52 PM

some adjustments

it looks like it has less outline no?

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:53 PM

i think no

And sorry

I respect to your work

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:55 PM

It's not my work at all

I don't do gfx

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:55 PM

to work of your team

but hud in general looks weird

menu is amazing and settings

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:56 PM

The hearts have been changed too

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:56 PM

why?

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:56 PM

to look more teeish? I don't know I forgot

or was it to match the ingame hearts

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 01:57 PM

if you mean move of ingame hearts

it's ok (edited)

Dune 04-Aug-19 01:57 PM

Refreshed health & armor icons, fixing #1581 by Zatline · Pull Re...

especially https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1581#issuecomment-434106432

Armor icons are slightly cropped · Issue #1581 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Cut on the right and the bottom:

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 02:40 PM

and the last one

the chat

3d text in 2d game xd why?

outline in all text or no outline pls :(

see it

pls it's very strange

Sonix 04-Aug-19 03:47 PM

its not bigger, the feet give that impression since they're not centered to the body intentionally

which gives the tee a more natural look (leaning stance etc)

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:09 PM

@Arseniy Zarche without outline, the chat is difficult to see on some backgrounds

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:26 PM

body under the feet it's weird :\

@Dune if you'll press 'u' you will see chat with bg

and in 0.6 it's normal

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:27 PM

yes there is background for better readability too

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:27 PM

but

outline should be on the whole letter

not only in down

it's hard to read

in 0.6 you have outline not like shadow

outline = outline in 0.6, but in 0.7 it's like shadow

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:29 PM

yes, https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1590 (@LordSk )

Improve chat look and feel part 1 by LordSk · Pull Request #1590 ...

Since we are improving the UI for 0.7.1, I thought I'd do a pass on the in-game chat. The text is now rendered with a shadow instead of an outline, with minor tweaks to colors. The category...

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:29 PM

shadow is harder to read

:(

and another colors of tee in team

see to color of feet and body

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:31 PM

sorry?

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:32 PM

check screenshot of your link

there is teamplay isn't so?

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:33 PM

teamchat is green

as always

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:35 PM

teamplay

i mean blue and red skin

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:35 PM

yes, what about that?

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:38 PM

feet and body is another colors

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:38 PM

depending on the skin, yes

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:38 PM

why?

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:39 PM

this was a development version, current teeworlds isn't like that

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:39 PM

i have this right now

i playing ctf right now

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:39 PM

then it depends on your skin

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:41 PM

but why

you can turn off even by the server

i mean change color

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:41 PM

to make skin easier to identify in teamplay modes?

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:41 PM

there is only red and only blue, we shouldn't have any sub-colors

Dune 04-Aug-19 04:42 PM

there are no subcolors

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 04:42 PM

tint*

i mean tint, sorry

Skayland 04-Aug-19 06:12 PM

Do you mean: "why the feets are different color?" ? @Arseniy Zarche

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 07:55 PM

@Skayland I mean: "Why the feets are different color to body?" (edited)

Skayland 04-Aug-19 08:25 PM

Basically the reason is: the artist that make the skins normally use darker colors for the feets than the body, If you throw a ball of red paint to a white and dark grey wall: the white part will look more like red, while the dark grey part will look darker red, the skin system works the same

@Arseniy Zarche

Aiguane 04-Aug-19 08:42 PM

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Lemuas 04-Aug-19 08:49 PM

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El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 09:02 PM

Joined the server.

@Aiguane

Aiguane 04-Aug-19 09:03 PM

@El • fιяєωσяк

u R THE REAL ONE ?

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 09:03 PM

Ye bro

wanna play ?

Aiguane 04-Aug-19 09:05 PM

What game u wanna play ?

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 09:06 PM

come here bit**

Arseniy Zarche 04-Aug-19 09:12 PM

@Skayland but in 0.6 all is good

why we should use this

Nicolas ADA 04-Aug-19 09:32 PM

Joined the server.

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 09:35 PM

@Nicolas ADA Welcome

We have cookies

on the flux

Aiguane 04-Aug-19 09:39 PM

Hello @Nicolas ADA

welcome to the community !

Nice and you ?

Tell me

I don't know how to do that

but maybe yes

i think it's possible

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 09:43 PM

yes

u need a nitro guys

with**

Aiguane 04-Aug-19 09:44 PM

with you ❤

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 09:50 PM

ooh my love

❤❤

Aiguane 04-Aug-19 10:02 PM

What can i do without you baby

Dune 04-Aug-19 10:03 PM

@Nicolas ADA this is an english-speaking discord, please respect that

Nicolas ADA 04-Aug-19 10:25 PM

@Dune sorry aiguane is a friend and we are french, sorry about that (edited)

Aiguane 04-Aug-19 10:28 PM

@Dune sorry for the unpleasantness he is a friend but he is a little bit stupid and very bad in english

my bad

Nicolas ADA 04-Aug-19 11:06 PM

@Dune please excuse Aiguane, he is a little bit retarded, i'm going to talk with him in private message because he just have to die and i don't want to flood this server (edited)

Deleted User 04-Aug-19 11:19 PM

has* to

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:22 PM

Wow omfg

Nicolas Puzzie

the real

he's big artist

Nicolas ADA 04-Aug-19 11:23 PM

oh you know me ?

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:23 PM

I know u bro

Nicolas ADA 04-Aug-19 11:23 PM

are you a subscriber of my youtube chanel ?

wow please i'm going to be red like a tomato

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:26 PM

kys

i love

Dune 04-Aug-19 11:27 PM

This is a channel about Teeworlds, not about your advertising stunts

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:27 PM

sorry

Nicolas ADA 04-Aug-19 11:28 PM

i'm probably going to do a vidéo on teeworlds it's for that

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:28 PM

omagad

i m so hype

Dune 04-Aug-19 11:28 PM

you all came at once with the same invite, we're not dumb

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:28 PM

what the

probleme

Nicolas ADA 04-Aug-19 11:30 PM

yes because they came from my discord, because we played teeworlds this afternoon and my friend send your discord in my, and some people joins again like @El • fιяєωσяк ^^

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:30 PM

like me

ya

that was an good experience

(i love science)

Dune 04-Aug-19 11:31 PM

try advertising once more and you're off

1

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:33 PM

sorry i don't uderstand you're off mean a ban ?

i m realy sorry

Deleted User 04-Aug-19 11:33 PM

really*

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:36 PM

really sorry

ChillerDragon 04-Aug-19 11:38 PM

xd bois

El • fιяєωσяк 04-Aug-19 11:38 PM

xd

Deleted User 04-Aug-19 11:39 PM

@ChillerDragon still working on a teeworlds client with 0.7 version?

ChillerDragon 04-Aug-19 11:41 PM

yikes

didnt look into that for a while

still procrastinating the first release

Deleted User 04-Aug-19 11:43 PM

k

ChillerDragon 05-Aug-19 12:10 AM

but it will come... soon (tm)

toast.tw 05-Aug-19 10:55 AM

lul

Qtaro 05-Aug-19 11:27 AM

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Aiguane 05-Aug-19 11:59 AM

Welcome ! @Qtaro

Qtaro 05-Aug-19 11:59 AM

Thanks my couille

Maximilian 05-Aug-19 12:26 PM

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El • fιяєωσяк 05-Aug-19 12:49 PM

Welcome Maximilian

Aiguane 05-Aug-19 02:08 PM

Welcome Maximilian

El • fιяєωσяк 05-Aug-19 03:17 PM

Welcome @Aiguane in the TeaWorld

(maybe the T series's discord)

RUS 05-Aug-19 03:39 PM

Joined the server.

Aiguane 05-Aug-19 03:41 PM

Welcome RUS

Garwex 05-Aug-19 05:00 PM

It's the war in multimap xd

help (edited)

Kpro 05-Aug-19 09:41 PM

can we fix the 0.6 masters

the hoster of master3 has really messed up firewall rules i think

and ddnets master is messed up too

Dune 05-Aug-19 09:52 PM

can we fix the 0.6 masters the short answer is no. that is why 0.7 exists in the first place

Kpro 05-Aug-19 10:05 PM

i mean its fixable when theres no ddos... they just have messed up firewall rules

heinrich5991 05-Aug-19 10:05 PM

I think the firewall rules of ddnet were imposed by the hoster

Kpro 05-Aug-19 10:05 PM

thats because ddnet is using nfo

nfo sucks for ddos protection

ddnets should be open if there is no ddos atleast

yet its only registering ddnet servers and half the people cant see master4 including me

loprix 06-Aug-19 01:30 AM

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Mrhumpels 06-Aug-19 01:56 AM

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ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:39 AM

@Kpro master3 is not messed up.

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:47 AM

it is

a lot of people cant see it

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:50 AM

We've been warning people about how to refresh correctly to see servers properly. For me and all users that has been warned, everything works fine.

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:50 AM

refreshing doesnt help

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:50 AM

It does

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:50 AM

ive already told them to do it

they can only see master4

ever

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:50 AM

Then you may check your net

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:50 AM

its not the net

ive had multiple people complain about the issue

every day

everytime its the same problem

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:51 AM

Well everything is completly clean

and works perfectly

Don't see the problem

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:51 AM

obviously not if people are having problems lol

just cuz its working for u doesnt mean its working for others

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:51 AM

then they may complain there, not to you

well I'm saying that because it works for all users that I know

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:52 AM

why would people complain to u?

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:52 AM

Did I just say to me

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:52 AM

then i dont see how u would know if its an issue or not

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:52 AM

People never complained to me

And after some help, given to others, everything worked fine

(to successfully load the server list)

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:53 AM

well ive helped multiple people

and they all have the problem of only seeing master4

the ones that have the problem

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:54 AM

Well sad so, as @Dune said, 0.7 is up

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:54 AM

i still think its just a bad firewall on master3

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:55 AM

Well nah

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:55 AM

yeah

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:55 AM

You can't say that when you don't have any further experience in that domain :)

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:56 AM

well

i clearly have better firewall experience than u seeing as u cant ddos my server anymore

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:56 AM

never tried to ddos your server well since I was never able to do it

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:56 AM

yeye sure sure

did u help with master3 firewall?

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:57 AM

Also you probably should stop talking when you're assuming that you've targeted our server

master3 doesn't need my help

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:57 AM

no assumptions were made

ReiTW 06-Aug-19 02:58 AM

Sure =), well proofs has already been sent

good night, have a job.

Kpro 06-Aug-19 02:58 AM

proof of what?

2

lol

Noe 06-Aug-19 03:45 PM

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Marwin 07-Aug-19 09:25 AM

Joined the server.

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Assa 07-Aug-19 10:52 AM

does somebody know if cammo has discord?

Iman 07-Aug-19 11:19 AM

i searched for cammo with ctrl+f in ifcity, ddnet and tw server and found nothing

Assa 07-Aug-19 11:30 AM

:/ okay but thank you ❤

jason54 07-Aug-19 12:51 PM

@Dune il serait possible que tu m'aide pour un truc ?

Dune 07-Aug-19 12:52 PM

@jason54 again, this is an english-only channel

jason54 07-Aug-19 12:53 PM

Ok

Private ?

Dune 07-Aug-19 12:54 PM

Or ask here in english

jason54 07-Aug-19 12:55 PM

I would like to know how to put the eyes of emotes and the / pause on a server ddrace?

Dune 07-Aug-19 01:15 PM

@jason54 For this, no easy way, you need programming skills. I can give you hints though, e,.g. for the emote: src/game/server/entities/character.cpp:475:void CCharacter::SetEmote(int Emote, int Tick)

I got this with a simple search on emote, that's how I find entry points in the code

Everything you are looking for is in src/game/server

jason54 07-Aug-19 01:18 PM

Ok thx

cagih 07-Aug-19 07:27 PM

@szkuta KOCHAM CIE

szkuta 07-Aug-19 07:28 PM

przestań

cagih 07-Aug-19 07:29 PM

nigdy

Dune 07-Aug-19 07:30 PM

@cagih @szkuta english only

cagih 07-Aug-19 07:36 PM

@Dune no u

Joined the server.

4

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)/ (edited)

1

jxsl13 07-Aug-19 10:49 PM

warning, then ban...

Deleted User 08-Aug-19 11:21 AM

how us hook????

Dune 08-Aug-19 11:25 AM

right click?

Arseniy Zarche 08-Aug-19 02:08 PM

hey, guys

i'm not sure it's full usable

but (edited)

https://youtu.be/T25MBRNw8bE

Arseniy Zarche

Teeworlds - tutorial

Hi! It's tutorial to Teeworlds, but really... for CTF. In next videos I maybe will talk about another vanilla modes (and not vanilla lol), but right now... t...

a bit tutorial

russian language but subtitles

many players comes from steam, idk how to show it in steam

heinrich5991 08-Aug-19 02:14 PM

you can post it in the steam community I think

4

1

2

1

2

1

Arseniy Zarche 08-Aug-19 03:57 PM

thanks, i'll try to do it

Arseniy Zarche 08-Aug-19 05:11 PM

guys, i can't find true instagib sources for 0.7

i found sources which can compile

but lol

WARNING: No master server

i very sad about fucking fact

Dune 08-Aug-19 05:13 PM

@Arseniy Zarche there are two mods here depending on what you mean by "true instagib": https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12873

How to Setup Instagib Server with 0.7.3? (Page 1) — Discussions ...

How to Setup Instagib Server with 0.7.3? (Page 1) — Discussions — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

0.7 should have no problem with master servers

Arseniy Zarche 08-Aug-19 05:19 PM

i am stupid, please sorry

2

Arseniy Zarche 08-Aug-19 08:59 PM

hm

what if fatal: repository 'https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/tree/ddr/' not found

and thanks you for help with last problem

Dune 08-Aug-19 09:34 PM

the repository is 'https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/'

Panthermonium 09-Aug-19 01:29 AM

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Acid 09-Aug-19 01:31 AM

Joined the server.

berke 09-Aug-19 01:32 AM

Joined the server.

witreck 09-Aug-19 01:38 AM

Joined the server.

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 06:18 AM

how to use joystick? i use joystick from xbox360, i can bind any buttons but joysticks dont work

i mean axises (edited)

hi garwex lol

sorry for ban

come back to aip-gores

Garwex 09-Aug-19 06:19 AM

Help, pleas admin in multimap, nobody can come, some idiots are instant voting and kickind everybody

oh it's you, don't talk to me.

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 06:20 AM

wtf man i didn't voted to kick you

i'm not on multimap

i'm on Arseniy Zarche's server

that's logical

Garwex 09-Aug-19 06:20 AM

what's your name in teeworld

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 06:20 AM

quantum

Garwex 09-Aug-19 06:20 AM

oh

sorry ^^

I thought u was some of those idiots

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 06:21 AM

np

come back to my server xd

here is peace

Garwex 09-Aug-19 06:22 AM

I've never seen so much no-brain guys, "mongol" and the russians at multimap instant kicking everybody

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 06:27 AM

@Garwex

i understood you

You mean that if someone will connect second tee he can kick another players?

where are you @Garwex

Garwex 09-Aug-19 06:32 AM

i'm back in multimap

with karzen we came at the same time and kicked the guy

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 12:26 PM

how to use joystick? i use joystick from xbox360, i can bind any buttons but joysticks dont work i mean axises

Alain Soral 09-Aug-19 12:54 PM

creepr

Dune 09-Aug-19 01:44 PM

@Arseniy Zarche joystick support is experimental and there is no UI yet

you have to adjust that in F1 with joystick_ commands

namely you have to change joystick_x and joystick_y (from 0 to 6) to find the right axis

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 05:44 PM

ok i've done this problem, thank you

it's very funny! :D

Assa 09-Aug-19 05:59 PM

moonwalks

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 08:04 PM

guys, how to explain people why server in 0.7 can't be ddosed?

Dune 09-Aug-19 08:15 PM

everything can be ddosed, but it is my understanding that 0.6 has vulnerabilities that can be (and are) exploited make ddos particularly effective (e.g reflection)

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 08:19 PM

ok

thanks

so where i can get ddrace with pause?

Fares 09-Aug-19 09:59 PM

Installe teeworld in iPhone is possible ?

heinrich5991 09-Aug-19 10:07 PM

no, not possible

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 10:14 PM

i did something incredible (edited)

i connected ps3 gamepad by bluetooth to teeworlds and it works!

who is "oy"?

Dune 09-Aug-19 10:17 PM

the main developer

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 10:21 PM

I mean "Is he here?" (edited)

Dune 09-Aug-19 10:22 PM

no

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 10:28 PM

Where i can ask him?

Dune 09-Aug-19 10:29 PM

#teeworlds IRC channel on quakenet, he is on sometimes

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 11:11 PM

@Dune so i need to install IRC-client?

Dune 09-Aug-19 11:12 PM

or use https://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=#teeworlds

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 11:14 PM

too late xD

what is his nickname in irc?

Dune 09-Aug-19 11:21 PM

Oy

Arseniy Zarche 09-Aug-19 11:21 PM

here isn't

Dune 09-Aug-19 11:24 PM

yes, he is only online at times

Firewave 10-Aug-19 01:41 AM

Joined the server.

Captain_AMN 10-Aug-19 02:06 PM

Does anyone know how to contact Landil these days?

Dune 10-Aug-19 02:18 PM

@Captain_AMN I have some ways in case it's really important, but it is my understanding that he has a family and is very busy. We had contacted him for 0.7.1 and he came for an hour to give some graphical directions

Captain_AMN 10-Aug-19 02:45 PM

but tw>real life

duhh

Deleted User 10-Aug-19 03:21 PM

nigga he has an actual life

Skayland 10-Aug-19 04:21 PM

Lol yea let him alone

Assa 10-Aug-19 04:22 PM

which Role does Landil have? We have Dune and Oy as devs and Zatline for graphics

Skayland 10-Aug-19 04:26 PM

graphic director?

Dune 10-Aug-19 04:30 PM

@Skayland pretty much, he used to be our artistic direction

Skayland 10-Aug-19 04:30 PM

@Assa

Captain_AMN 10-Aug-19 04:47 PM

lol @ newbies telling me, the GOAT, what to do

Assa 10-Aug-19 04:47 PM

I hope you don't think I'm a newbie

Captain_AMN 10-Aug-19 04:47 PM

evil clan noob?

if i remember well

Assa 10-Aug-19 04:48 PM

i was never in evil?

Captain_AMN 10-Aug-19 04:48 PM

okay

wasnt adressed at you

Landils role is God btw

JOE JAZZER 11-Aug-19 03:28 AM

Joined the server.

unlimreal 11-Aug-19 07:03 PM

Joined the server.

jason54 11-Aug-19 09:49 PM

Lel

Dune 11-Aug-19 09:54 PM

send the map if you have it so we can have a bug report

CloudThis 11-Aug-19 09:54 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 11-Aug-19 11:21 PM

uhhh?

Comrade Blaze 12-Aug-19 12:59 AM

Joined the server.

Is this game not too dead?

RuF0 12-Aug-19 01:03 AM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 01:44 AM

Joined the server.

Fudgy 12-Aug-19 02:50 AM

not too dead but it would need a refreshed playerbase

RisenFromAshes 12-Aug-19 07:59 AM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 10:36 AM

do people legit play 0.7

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 10:43 AM

nvm 0.7 crashes my entire fucking windows lmao

oh god

Dune 12-Aug-19 01:00 PM

Never heard of that

Assa 12-Aug-19 08:45 PM

My client just crashes when joining a server sometimes

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 10:57 PM

Wtf is snap

why cant i get teeworlds normally

it takes me to this snap thing

Dune 12-Aug-19 10:57 PM

hm? how are you getting teeworlds? steam or teeworlds.com?

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 10:58 PM

teeworlds.com

im clicking t he install teeworlds 0.7.3.1 on ubuntu

Dune 12-Aug-19 11:00 PM

if you have ubuntu 19.04 and higher, there are teeworlds packages

otherwise, did you extract the archive alright?

right click -> extract here probably works on ubuntu

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 11:01 PM

it just downloaded a teeworlds .zip file

Dune 12-Aug-19 11:01 PM

if it's a zip, you downloaded teeworlds for windows

get linux: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=downloads&id=12809

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 11:02 PM

im using linux mint

but i clicked the linux thing??

i dont understand this

Dune 12-Aug-19 11:02 PM

then you should have a .tar.gz

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 11:02 PM

i do

Dune 12-Aug-19 11:02 PM

ah, you said .zip

well then, right click -> extract here

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 11:03 PM

isnt it the same thing

Dune 12-Aug-19 11:04 PM

functionally yes, but zip is our archive for windows, so I thought the problem was there

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 11:04 PM

oops

sorry

damn

the menu got really changed

none of the demos work

Dune 12-Aug-19 11:07 PM

Yeah, we owe SushiTee and @Zatline for designing this modern menu a few years ago :)

Not sure if the demos are backwards-compatible, probably not

Deleted User 12-Aug-19 11:12 PM

i dont really like the new menu

i got used to the older one

Skayland 13-Aug-19 07:26 AM

Its hard to get used to something new

Sometimes

But i like the new menu

ChillerDragon 13-Aug-19 08:57 AM

no demos are not compatible its a new major relase o.O

Assa 13-Aug-19 10:36 AM

I like 0.7, the client and the source code is much cleaner

Deleted User 13-Aug-19 11:57 AM

way more stuttering

Assa 13-Aug-19 12:47 PM

i feel no stuttering

well, 2000 fps, how should i feel any stuttering

maybe you need to change some settings

LCPL Cat 13-Aug-19 12:54 PM

what super computer do you have

Assa 13-Aug-19 01:10 PM

"super computer" you can play teeworlds on a potatoe

tips: deactivate vsync - set antialiasing to 0

Deleted User 13-Aug-19 06:05 PM

wtf teeworlds randomly crashed i guess

J¤KeR™ 13-Aug-19 08:28 PM

Joined the server.

J¤KeR™ 14-Aug-19 07:39 AM

Joined the server.

jason54 14-Aug-19 01:43 PM

hello it would be possible to help me for my map I would like to put the teleporter for a map ddrace

Dune 14-Aug-19 01:51 PM

we still lack a good race map editor

jason54 14-Aug-19 01:52 PM

?

ReiTW 14-Aug-19 01:55 PM

@jason54 source code side you may check for @Dune 's branch, it has teleporter if I remember

Dune 14-Aug-19 01:55 PM

@ReiTW i think he wants to make the map

jason54 14-Aug-19 01:56 PM

yes do a do but I do not know how to put the teleporter

Dune 14-Aug-19 01:57 PM

start with an existing race map to understand, that will be the easiest

jason54 14-Aug-19 01:57 PM

I already did

Dune 14-Aug-19 01:58 PM

then look at the #tele layer

jason54 14-Aug-19 01:58 PM

ok

jason54 14-Aug-19 04:32 PM

I come back to see you because I tried to do as it was indicated on the other maps for the teleporter my sela does not work

Dune 14-Aug-19 05:29 PM

my sela?

witreck 14-Aug-19 09:43 PM

for some reason the mocing is glitched out and stuff, this problem has never happened before to me

moving*

Dune 14-Aug-19 09:51 PM

@witreck glitched out as in what?

witreck 14-Aug-19 09:52 PM

like movement

I would teleport randomly

its weird

Dune 14-Aug-19 09:52 PM

so network lags?

witreck 14-Aug-19 10:30 PM

yes I think

zsoelek 14-Aug-19 10:53 PM

Joined the server.

a28b 14-Aug-19 11:46 PM

Joined the server.

witreck 15-Aug-19 12:25 AM

@reaper pls

blocker on multimap

ChillerDragon 15-Aug-19 12:26 AM

?

this is not the right discord to report blockers on multimap xd

Panthermonium 15-Aug-19 02:23 AM

I don't think he knows any other teeworlds discords

Deleted User 15-Aug-19 02:02 PM

0.7 blockers are actually trash

jason54 15-Aug-19 04:17 PM

hello someone would use the map_update because I have an error on it

AkaFad 15-Aug-19 08:29 PM

Joined the server.

Hello there

thestyxcode 15-Aug-19 11:03 PM

Joined the server.

DarckNote 16-Aug-19 05:04 AM

Joined the server.

witreck 16-Aug-19 08:06 PM

@jason54

it was funfight retard

witreck 17-Aug-19 12:11 AM

@reaper multimap spawnblocker bitch

is here

reaper 17-Aug-19 01:22 AM

@witreck this Discord Server is not for reports, thanks and good night.

witreck 17-Aug-19 01:34 AM

then which one is

thats a start

jxsl13 17-Aug-19 01:45 AM

tw forum spam.

heinrich5991 17-Aug-19 02:03 PM

already delt with by someone

dealt*

jxsl13 17-Aug-19 02:11 PM

@heinrich5991 latest activity is a spam post as well.

@Dune

Dune 17-Aug-19 02:12 PM

I delete every few hours

Don't ping for 2h-old spam it's there all the time unfortunately

jxsl13 17-Aug-19 02:13 PM

just saw that you were online.

heinrich5991 17-Aug-19 02:14 PM

don't see anything

damn, dune is quick

jxsl13 17-Aug-19 02:14 PM

ninja skills.

Titi 17-Aug-19 02:56 PM

Joined the server.

Hello

jxsl13 17-Aug-19 03:13 PM

o/

Garwex 17-Aug-19 08:55 PM

Naxxramas is DDoSing the server :c

This guy dosen't have any job for sure

witreck 17-Aug-19 11:08 PM

^

gungaga 18-Aug-19 12:24 AM

Joined the server.

I can’t play because of a vcruntime140.dll error

nvm I fixed it myself

reaper 18-Aug-19 11:20 AM

@Garwex then i would look for a better hoster.

Sonix 18-Aug-19 03:46 PM

How did you fix it? @gungaga might be useful for those who are having the same issue

Dune 18-Aug-19 04:01 PM

Installing VC redistributables package I imagine?

RuF0 18-Aug-19 07:34 PM

Hi, I'm having problems connecting to most servers. Its possible that some masterservers are blocking me?

Dune 18-Aug-19 08:00 PM

@RuF0 problems as in you can't connect or you can't see them in the list

RuF0 18-Aug-19 08:01 PM

both i think

cant find then on browser tab and cant connect via ip in console (edited)

Dune 18-Aug-19 08:03 PM

If you can't connect the masterservers are not the problem

Kpro 18-Aug-19 08:10 PM

he can't see master3

it's the same issue I was talking about before

RuF0 18-Aug-19 08:11 PM

i tested connecting with vpn or mobile data and it works

Kpro 18-Aug-19 08:13 PM

there are quite a few people being blocked by master3s firewall for some reason and servers cant even register on master4

Mr_Anderson 18-Aug-19 08:50 PM

@RuF0 if you have issues with master3, just try to request the server list a few times. we're not "blocking" any people on master3 https://status.tw/?p=status

RuF0 18-Aug-19 08:54 PM

i tried that but it didnt help. On 0.7 works fine, the problems are only in 0.6

witreck 18-Aug-19 09:21 PM

@Assa

????

Assa 18-Aug-19 09:21 PM

no

witreck 18-Aug-19 09:21 PM

no what

?

Assa 18-Aug-19 09:21 PM

wait I gave you 20 minutes

were they really over oO

witreck 18-Aug-19 09:22 PM

I got banned for life

because I fought back???

he blocked me 2 times but when I attempt to block back I get banned

Assa 18-Aug-19 09:22 PM

fucking don't block, go block server - start a vote if you get blocked

unbanned you

witreck 18-Aug-19 09:23 PM

yeah nice shit logic, tell the retard noob who blocked me twice that

there are many blockers online in the server btw

so maybe pay attention a bit better

goodday

Assa 18-Aug-19 10:15 PM

I can't be online all day looking for people who may be behaving bad, "pay more attention" ...

witreck 18-Aug-19 10:19 PM

then dont ban people without the full story if you arent able to ban all the people who are actually breaking rules

Assa 18-Aug-19 11:04 PM

and you call me stupid

witreck 18-Aug-19 11:11 PM

hmmm i wonder why

jxsl13 18-Aug-19 11:23 PM

ban both. it's more fun :D

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Garwex 19-Aug-19 09:15 AM

lmao

Garwex 19-Aug-19 09:24 AM

Deleted User 19-Aug-19 10:11 AM

edge is so fkin new man

<BµmM> 19-Aug-19 12:10 PM

wtf let him enjoy the game and stop hate

Deleted User 19-Aug-19 12:28 PM

how do you do edge bro

ChillerDragon 19-Aug-19 01:08 PM

@<BµmM> imagine him being not sarcastic xd

Squeezy 19-Aug-19 04:11 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 19-Aug-19 05:07 PM

people selling nice looking shoes and bags in the teeworlds forum.

Prokiller 19-Aug-19 05:11 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 19-Aug-19 08:20 PM

is there a way i can reset the config file? i think its the cause for the program hanging when i try to start it in windows

jxsl13 19-Aug-19 08:26 PM

win

%appdata%/Teeworlds

enter

delete config file there

storyshift chara 19-Aug-19 09:01 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 19-Aug-19 11:05 PM

that hanged my entire computer for a sec lol

allright thanks

it worked

wolkodlack 19-Aug-19 11:57 PM

Joined the server.

witreck 20-Aug-19 03:33 AM

nice moderation

I get funvoted out by zarnah because I have slow time

witreck 20-Aug-19 04:03 AM

hmm nice zarnah calls me a blocker tries to vote me out with all his friends, then he blocks me when I did nothing

dock 20-Aug-19 05:01 AM

Joined the server.

Are there many active US players these days?

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4

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mini 20-Aug-19 05:03 PM

Joined the server.

/_\ 20-Aug-19 07:11 PM

Joined the server.

.LeitWolf‘ 20-Aug-19 08:59 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 21-Aug-19 11:43 AM

a lot of "blah" in the forum nowadays.

Dune 21-Aug-19 11:48 AM

0.7 bumped the rankings

jxsl13 21-Aug-19 12:53 PM

I mean forum spam :D

Dune 21-Aug-19 12:53 PM

I meant that too

TNT 21-Aug-19 03:26 PM

Just one question, why don't you implement a kind of account system in teeworlds? It would be maybe easier to prevent ddos and ban stuff, no? (just asking x) )

Dune 21-Aug-19 03:54 PM

An account system would not help prevent ddos @TNT

TNT 22-Aug-19 07:19 AM

Well, if you have to just ban account, and not an ip? Wouldn't be easier?

MaGFuu 22-Aug-19 11:10 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 22-Aug-19 11:11 AM

Changing account is easier than changing IP

Accounts in terworlds would be optional anyway

WsY[FU]? 22-Aug-19 11:50 AM

Depends, with all the VPNs availiable and dynamic ips most users have, it is pretty easy to change IP. And unfortunatly range bans do not always help situation, since there is often a chance that different players will share the same IP range (especially if they are germans)

I personally find it irritating to create multiple accounts (especially if it reqs different mail)

But yeah, accounts can't prevent ddos

DisappointMEnt 22-Aug-19 03:07 PM

Joined the server.

someone german wanna play?

TNT 22-Aug-19 04:49 PM

ok :j

Assa 22-Aug-19 05:29 PM

accounts only work if you make people pay for an account

Sonix 22-Aug-19 06:21 PM

Not true

ʟε cσυz' ๖ζ͜͡𝕄αŧ 🔥 22-Aug-19 06:47 PM

Joined the server.

hello

do you speak french?

hello????????????????

Dune 22-Aug-19 06:49 PM

this is an english-only channel

ʟε cσυz' ๖ζ͜͡𝕄αŧ 🔥 22-Aug-19 06:49 PM

a (((

go 1v1 teeworlds fng?

my pseudo is matcraft

1v1?

jason54 22-Aug-19 08:14 PM

hello, how would you do a random map

Assa 22-Aug-19 09:40 PM

New trick to make your client load 10 times faster

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fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 09:40 PM

@jason54 stop stealing my mod/map

jason54 22-Aug-19 09:41 PM

sorry but your mod was in public

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 09:42 PM

ofc it was

but you copied my server 1:1

same map, same bots, same mod

And you got everything from my mod

Assa 22-Aug-19 09:43 PM

@fokkonaut nothing you can do about this, teeworlds has an open source license

jacksonville 22-Aug-19 09:43 PM

Joined the server.

jason54 22-Aug-19 09:44 PM

Slt @jacksonville

Assa 22-Aug-19 09:44 PM

but maybe you have your information in /info and everyone knows it's yours

Dune 22-Aug-19 09:44 PM

that's not really how licenses work

pingger 22-Aug-19 09:44 PM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 09:45 PM

wow, you took my mod and edited the fucking by fokkonaut messages to by jason

Assa 22-Aug-19 09:45 PM

Now, this is just antisozial ^

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 09:45 PM

the mod name is F-DDrace, not fucking Block Mod (edited)

Sorry for my aggressive messages now, but I told this dude in Private messages today already he shall stop fucking stealing my code, my map and my mod (edited)

@Assa This is not antisocial, this is just fucking stupid

jason54 22-Aug-19 09:47 PM

it's not stolen because it's not private

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 09:47 PM

OF COURSE IT IS STOLEN

it said by fokkonaut, its my work, my commits, you can see the full history starting in my 0.6 repo and continuing on my 0.7 repo.

And you just took the mod, not even listed on GitHub, edited the mod slightly (changed bot names and fucking messages that this is your mod)

I worked over 60 hours on this mod, and you just come and steal all of my work

20 hours alone porting it to 0.7

Dune 22-Aug-19 09:49 PM

@jason54 regardless of whether the mod is public or not, it is not very ethical to misrepresent its origin

jacksonville 22-Aug-19 09:49 PM

+ you wrote something wrong

it's modifié

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 09:50 PM

https://github.com/fokkonaut/BlockDDrace BlockDDrace is my 0.6 mod https://github.com/fokkonaut/teeworlds/tree/F-DDrace F-DDrace is bascially BlockDDrace but ported to 0.7 by me (edited)

+ F-DDrace is improved for 0.7, because 0.7 ofc has a different protocol and most stuff doesnt work in CPlayeR::Snap anymore, so I have many 0.7 specific imrpovements for it

And I do not accept anyone doing what @jason54 is doing

@jason54 say something to your defense

jason54 22-Aug-19 09:54 PM

I will give your name but I keep the mod

I'm sorry that you are not pleased

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 09:56 PM

That will not fucking change anything

You still advertise it as your own mod, with your name, your gametype, etc

Learn how to actually reach something in life, then you will notice that this is not the way to go.

jason54 22-Aug-19 09:56 PM

pity had to put it in private before I'm sorry

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 09:57 PM

In DM you told me you wont copy my code or something like that, now see whats happening

jason54 22-Aug-19 10:00 PM

come see on the server

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 10:00 PM

No, write here

I will not connect so you can ban me

You steal MY players on MY MOD

Just because you cant create something people like

Assa 22-Aug-19 10:06 PM

what does the license say?

The origin of this software must not be misrepresented; you must not claim that you wrote the original software. If you use this software in a product, an acknowledgment in the product documentation would be

so @jason54 it is his right to have his name in it

jason54 22-Aug-19 10:08 PM

I put back to the normal

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 10:08 PM

no

Assa 22-Aug-19 10:08 PM

Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose,

fokkonaut 22-Aug-19 10:08 PM

its still Block Mod and it is still "F" istead of "f" in my name

No link to my repo

nothing+

Assa 22-Aug-19 10:08 PM

@fokkonaut you put it online with that license, so he has the right to use it

jxsl13 22-Aug-19 11:22 PM

Really nice, he's doing the same with my zCatch mod. Translated the english stuff into crappy french with enhlish words mixed in it. Clearly violating the license. Hm gotta sue I guess.

And removed the part that says, that I made that mode, nearly completely from scratch for tw 0.7.

noby 23-Aug-19 04:45 AM

he stole maps from my fng server too

scummy hoster doesnt ask ppl first

ReiTW 23-Aug-19 10:39 AM

he stole every... nothing from my side

Deleted User 23-Aug-19 01:20 PM

jason54 23-Aug-19 01:23 PM

I'm not stealing there are full ddnet server I just took the Map and converted from 0.6 to 0.7 because a lot of stuff does not work

jxsl13 23-Aug-19 01:55 PM

you. violate my License in "your" zCatch mod. (edited)

jason54 23-Aug-19 02:14 PM

@jxsl13

jxsl13 23-Aug-19 02:15 PM

1. the origin of this software...

I am the origin after thousand other people

wow, changed the creator back to my nickname. How nice of you...

jason54 23-Aug-19 02:18 PM

I do not claim to have written it just edit

I'm not the changer go see on the server

jxsl13 23-Aug-19 02:19 PM

your crap ass edit was a 1:1 translation or my server info with my nickname changed to your nickname and mine was kind of missing there.

of*

And everyone else, I gave credit, was exactly at the same positions, where I gave them credit.

mysterious

gotta change the license to GPL I guess, if shit like this happens.

fokkonaut 23-Aug-19 02:36 PM

@jason54 should get a masterserver ban for doing this to multiple people

No more servers from this guy

@jason54 I explicitly told you to take down your server running my mod now multiple times. I made it private and asked you to remove the code from your machine.

Dune 23-Aug-19 02:37 PM

That is not a bannable offense. Also, it seems like it was edited to represent the origin of the mod, so it seems like it is resolved.

fokkonaut 23-Aug-19 02:37 PM

How can one be so ignorant (i mean jason)

Dune 23-Aug-19 02:37 PM

Once you distribute it once, it is public* (edited)

jxsl13 23-Aug-19 03:07 PM

would check out all of the servers hosted on: 188.40.204.238 if they violate the specific licenses. (edited)

if any of them does, request a master server ban.

fokkonaut 23-Aug-19 03:35 PM

@jason54 at least rename the mod back to F-DDrace, wtf

Garwex 23-Aug-19 08:31 PM

can someone can kill this naxramass

clean this dirty world

AxelYT 23-Aug-19 10:06 PM

Joined the server.

Hello everyone!

ZoOoM.7z 23-Aug-19 10:42 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 24-Aug-19 12:19 AM

hello AxelYT

jason54 24-Aug-19 02:59 AM

@Garwex you can not do anything

Garwex 24-Aug-19 03:00 AM

?

jxsl13 24-Aug-19 09:57 AM

who is "this guy"

onasnus 24-Aug-19 11:22 AM

How do you play on city maps?

what do these maps consist of?

Assa 24-Aug-19 01:35 PM

nothing, really

AxelYT 24-Aug-19 01:37 PM

just "rp" grand theft tee

Skayland 24-Aug-19 04:17 PM

Real gta at least is fun

City modes is just sitting to get xp and money, its good for chatting tho

AxelYT 24-Aug-19 06:11 PM

I see a RPG servers

They like City

but have enemy bots

Deleted User 24-Aug-19 06:12 PM

city modes is basically afk for some """"""""""""""""cool"""""""""""""""" stuff but honestly its just boring

i really just have fun looking around in the map for a few mins but thats it

El BobLex 24-Aug-19 08:00 PM

Joined the server.

AxelYT 24-Aug-19 10:20 PM

I find interesting in city models that bots on this servers are cheaters

(sory for mai bed ingland)

nicolasaceblue 25-Aug-19 12:10 AM

Joined the server.

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 04:29 PM

anyone know how to get teleports working after porting 0.6 maps to 0.7?

Dune 25-Aug-19 04:56 PM

They should work right away on a race mod

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 05:00 PM

hmmm they dont for me

Dune 25-Aug-19 05:06 PM

open the map in the editor, do you see a #tele layer?

redix 25-Aug-19 05:06 PM

normal teleports or checkpoint teleports (from ddnet)?

Dune 25-Aug-19 05:08 PM

ah, didn't think of that

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 05:10 PM

ah right i see the 'tele' section, so i guess i just place a number over a 'from' or 'to' tile?

Dune 25-Aug-19 05:12 PM

You shouldn't have to do anything

@El BobLex what about redix's question?

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 05:13 PM

normal teles

arisoda 25-Aug-19 05:19 PM

Joined the server.

AxelYT 25-Aug-19 05:23 PM

Need to build a Ziggurat

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 05:25 PM

?

Dune 25-Aug-19 05:39 PM

@El BobLex are you sure you are using a modification that supports teleports?

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 05:40 PM

im using mkRace

Dune 25-Aug-19 05:41 PM

no idea how it works, are they based on redix's race?

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 05:42 PM

im not sure tbh (edited)

so the ones circled in red should link and also the ones in green, but nothing happens when i go on the tile in game

Dune 25-Aug-19 05:44 PM

try with the race mod to see if it's a map problem or a mod problem

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 05:45 PM

does the latest version support /pause ?

Dune 25-Aug-19 05:46 PM

no

to see if it's a map problem or a mod problem

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 05:46 PM

ok

nah must be a map problem, i havent done teleports in ages and forgotten the basics

Dune 25-Aug-19 05:48 PM

if you convert a map from 0.6 it should work fine

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 05:49 PM

thats what i was hoping, ill try another map

ok i just tried run_guy25, teleports work with mkRace but not with Race mod

redix 25-Aug-19 05:59 PM

in the 0.7 race mod i reworked the whole custom layer system. the map update tool makes use of that not sure what mkrace is or who created it, but it seems to use the old layers from 0.6

Dune 25-Aug-19 06:02 PM

@El BobLex if you use @redix's map converter tool, you will get a map that works with @redix's race and its forks. it seems like this mkrace is a completely different mod

redix 25-Aug-19 06:04 PM

great that we have several incompatible implementations already after a few months

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 06:05 PM

well i just tested again and after using the map updater mkRace is the only one working for me

anyway, at least i got teleports working again

witreck 25-Aug-19 06:09 PM

where did old school bkmz go

I miss that, but it got replaced by copy love shit

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 06:14 PM

no idea

redix 25-Aug-19 06:26 PM

anyone knows who created mkrace? or is there any github repo or something?

Dune 25-Aug-19 06:27 PM

@redix snsnoop

redix 25-Aug-19 06:32 PM

thanks! found the repo

in order to reintroduce all the ddrace bugs which are needed to play a lot of their maps, he merged the old layer code....

NineLivesC 25-Aug-19 06:39 PM

Joined the server.

redix 25-Aug-19 06:40 PM

in this case, it is rather luck that the maps work after using the map-update tool

NineLivesC 25-Aug-19 06:40 PM

Joined the server.

hey

someone

is there an official teeworlds server for kog?

Dune 25-Aug-19 06:41 PM

kog?

El BobLex 25-Aug-19 06:42 PM

well its the only way working for me at the minute. Im happy with that luck

redix 25-Aug-19 06:44 PM

they use their own map-update fork

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 08:30 PM

@NineLivesC what do you mean by official? offical teeworlds or official kog? xd there is a official kog kog server in 0.6 hosted under qshar.com:8303

jason54 25-Aug-19 08:30 PM

hello how would it be possible to put a random vote map on my server ddrace

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 08:36 PM

not without code as far as i know

Assa 25-Aug-19 08:46 PM

you could do a workaround with the exec command

but you need a second program that changes the file that is executed

Dune 25-Aug-19 08:49 PM

I don't see how it would be possible

Deleted User 25-Aug-19 09:00 PM

you need to not steal from others for once

1

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:39 PM

does anyone have a 0.6 game.png with the grayscale flag? (edited)

I thought SushiTee's pack would include it in the game.png but no

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:50 PM

@Dune for sure that is possible. Create a program that gets all maps from the current directory and then chooses one randomly. This map gets written into randommap.cfg and the processes is repeated every few seconds. The vote it self executes exec randommap.cfg and thus a random map. But still since this tool is not really out it invloves coding.

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:51 PM

huh, so you need to have a background task running

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:51 PM

yes

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:51 PM

might as well implement that directly in the mod lol

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:51 PM

ya

fokkonaut 25-Aug-19 10:52 PM

fifo

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:52 PM

ya was about to write that

fokkonaut 25-Aug-19 10:52 PM

I implemented fifo in my 0.7 server and use it for broadcast out of my restart update script

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:52 PM

another similar useless approach is to listen in fifo for the vote to be called and then rewrite randommap.cfg instead of doding it in intervals

fokkonaut 25-Aug-19 10:52 PM

so it tells the players a restart will come in x seconds

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:53 PM

wait is fifo even a vanilla thing or only econ?

fokkonaut 25-Aug-19 10:53 PM

Nah only econ

Fifo is not vanilla

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:53 PM

does ddnet have custom flag colors à la teecomp ?

fokkonaut 25-Aug-19 10:53 PM

?

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:53 PM

like ctf flag flags?

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

yeah

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

no

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

:/

fokkonaut 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

what do you mean dune?

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

no flags in ddnet

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

yeah but ddnet implemented most of sushi's pack / teecomp

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

tru

fokkonaut 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

ah get it

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

somehow I don't find that feature in the 0.6 sushi's pack

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

could be a feature

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:54 PM

i know 0.5 had it

gdi I remember seeing such game.pngs but I forgot where

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 10:56 PM

like white flags?

Dune 25-Aug-19 10:57 PM

more like gray? they had some gray for the shapes

you'd color it red/blue and it'd make the default flags

you've never seen game.png with three flags?

redix 25-Aug-19 11:04 PM

i'm pretty sure that client pack has flag colouring

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:09 PM

strange , I'll double check

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 11:11 PM

what os are you on @jason54 ?

redix 25-Aug-19 11:11 PM

@Dune https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds/blob/4cfcc70d5e8278d5fb3c4d0b8d675b1af46a5e84/src/game/client/gameclient.cpp#L362-L429 (edited)

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/find/master

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to axblk/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:12 PM

// Teecomp grayscale flags Graphics()->UnloadTexture(g_pData->m_aImages[IMAGE_GAME_GRAY].m_Id); // Already loaded with full color, unload g_pData->m_aImages[IMAGE_GAME_GRAY].m_Id = -1;

huh we reached the same line at once :D

redix 25-Aug-19 11:12 PM

never saw this code before ^^

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:12 PM

so apparently there is only one game.png, but somehow it gets unloaded

weird

redix 25-Aug-19 11:13 PM

it loads game.png twice

then unloads one and loads it again

kinda ugly

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:14 PM

why though

redix 25-Aug-19 11:14 PM

it needs to load the raw data from the file to create the the greyscale version

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:16 PM

damn, the big ass loop underneath does some weird math

redix 25-Aug-19 11:16 PM

it's only added to content.py to create the g_pData->m_aImages[IMAGE_GAME_GRAY] field (edited)

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:17 PM

but like, it's editing the image data in CGameClient::OnInit()

redix 25-Aug-19 11:18 PM

yes. but it loads them from file again since it canot access the gpu memory from there

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:18 PM

jesus

git blame

redix 25-Aug-19 11:18 PM

haha

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:18 PM

ah, it's probably from spl0k so I won't find the commit

redix 25-Aug-19 11:19 PM

seems so

just creating a greyscale version of game.png would have been easier i think =\

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:19 PM

yeah, why would you hardcode it

pretty sure I saw game.png with a third, grayscale flag

redix 25-Aug-19 11:20 PM

that would probably be the best solution

jason54 25-Aug-19 11:22 PM

@ChillerDragon I am on mkrace mode and the servers are on linux

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:22 PM

maybe it was some @Zatline 's design that I saw

redix 25-Aug-19 11:25 PM

for the flags masking would be cool... so you only color the part that is red/blue now

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:26 PM

it used to work like that somehow

redix 25-Aug-19 11:29 PM

but i think it also colored the flagpole

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:29 PM

welp indeed it does

time to learn gimp

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 11:32 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that new color menu doesnt look really teeish?

Or at least doesnt fit the menu style.

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:33 PM

what new color menu?

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 11:33 PM

the one you showed in the screenshot

the sharp edges

compared to the round sliders

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:33 PM

that's only in the skin customization UI afaik

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 11:33 PM

yes

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:33 PM

not the most important stuff

do it better if you find a way ^^

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 11:34 PM

im not sure what could help

putting a round box around would probably not help at all

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:35 PM

then it's fine like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 11:35 PM

hmm .-.

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:35 PM

good HSL color pickers are round

so if you don't got anything better to do :D

jxsl13 25-Aug-19 11:36 PM

@fokkonaut is your confusable characters stuff public somewhere? (edited)

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 11:42 PM

@Dune but still the middle square is to sharp for tee round and soft tw menu imho

@jxsl13 maybe those

ddnet/ddnet

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - ddnet/ddnet

1

jason54 25-Aug-19 11:44 PM

@ChillerDragon how to make the random vote map ??

Dune 25-Aug-19 11:45 PM

he answered you earlier

short answer: you can't

ChillerDragon 25-Aug-19 11:46 PM

i wrote him in private i actually created the script xd

campfire but spooky 26-Aug-19 02:29 AM

Joined the server.

witreck 26-Aug-19 02:30 AM

how to copy paste maps so I can pracitce on it?

campfire but spooky 26-Aug-19 02:30 AM

yo gamres

gamers

@Dune

witreck 26-Aug-19 02:40 AM

sorry for ping but @everyone how do I host a server that I have in editor

☆ block ☆ 26-Aug-19 02:47 AM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:20 AM

that's a map in the editor, not a server. go on my youtube channel the videos might help @witreck (edited)

It also depends on the server mod that you want to play on, some are closed source, thus can only be played on the available online servers, as you cannot host a server yourself then.

Trafalgar Law 26-Aug-19 04:22 AM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 26-Aug-19 05:59 AM

@jxsl13 its in ddnet, src/base/unicode. Just use that folder, add the missing functions to system.c and .h (compiler will cry) and copy the SetClientName and TrySetClientName from DDNet in server.cpp. Thats it.

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NineLivesC 26-Aug-19 07:08 AM

uhm

@ChillerDragon

im just searching for people willing to kinda "learn" me how to play gores lol

bc doing stuf solo is impossible :/

and if i want to join a map with a lot of people..its a hard map -_-

like insanely hard

i get dragged 80% of the time..maybe 90%

get what i mean?

Assa 26-Aug-19 09:35 AM

@NineLivesC You need to master the basics in teeworlds for some things - teeworlds has a high skillkurve, you will get better with time

Deleted User 26-Aug-19 10:13 AM

apparently not as much as in the new version

troll

Assa 26-Aug-19 10:15 AM

in the new version you are very fast in the top 100 players

NineLivesC 26-Aug-19 11:13 AM

?

new version???

@Assa

Assa 26-Aug-19 11:15 AM

Teeworlds 0.7 is newer then teeworlds 0.6, and a lot of players are still playing in 0.6

NineLivesC 26-Aug-19 11:15 AM

0.7?

idk what you are talking about lol

or the 0.6

are there versions of teeworlds other than the client?

Assa 26-Aug-19 11:59 AM

cleared in private message

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 12:31 PM

what would i write in my autoexec to add server messages, like have a random server message saying "Don't forget to add to favourites" or something like that every 5 mins. 0.7 btw

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 12:56 PM

@El BobLex if your used server mod does support that, you could look at that mod's documentation. It depends on the mod.

WsY[FU]? 26-Aug-19 12:59 PM

or you could find econ GUI (there is a thread somewhere on forum) and set up jobs

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 01:04 PM

link is dead

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 02:04 PM

also how do i allow more than 16 active players. everyone who joins after 16 players is put in spectators and can't play. Would this be mod related?

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 02:20 PM

it's somewhere in the source a #define MAX_PLAYERS 16 would need to be changed and the mod would need to be recompiled.

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 02:28 PM

i see a line u can write in config sv_player_slots (number) "Number of slots to reserve for players" is this different than sv_max_clients? (edited)

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 02:32 PM

max_clients = ingame players + spectators, players_slots = players that can play

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 02:33 PM

ah cool, changed it to 64 now anyway, will see if it works when i get 17 players i guess

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 02:34 PM

you could try

dbg_dummies 20;reload

in rcon

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 02:34 PM

not supported on the mod im using

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 02:35 PM

hm, yeah, I highly doubt that max_players can be changed to more than 16 without a source code modification.

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 02:51 PM

ok what file is that stuff usually defined in? I have the source (edited)

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 02:52 PM

do you use VS Code?

I'd just search for #define MAX_PLAYERS

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 02:54 PM

Yes I do. I was wondering which .cpp file

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:03 PM

it's most likely a .h or .hpp file

hm, protocol.h ... well, I wonder if all of the connected clients will crash if this is changed to 64 and >16 players start to play ingame.

0.7 was advertised to support 64 players, hopefully that will work fine

it's actually an enum and not a macro

"MAX_PLAYERS=16"

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:06 PM

@jxsl13 you can have more than 16 players just fine?

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:06 PM

ingame? I don't know

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:06 PM

of course, there are plenty of servers with 16+ right now

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:06 PM

well in the mods source it show sv_player_slots as a variable

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:07 PM

@campfire but spooky ?

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:07 PM

I'm mostly on zCatch, so dunno x) but then your should be simply able to change that value then, I guess

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:07 PM

i can have more than 16 on my server Dune yes, but i was wondering if allowing more than 16 players to actually be playing and not sat in spectator

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:07 PM

you*

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:07 PM

just change MAX_PLAYERS @El BobLex

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:07 PM

which i think is what sv_player_slots is

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:07 PM

it's a one-liner

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:08 PM

sv_player_slots is capped at 16 players

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:08 PM

don't change sv_player_slots

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:08 PM

in order to increase the cap, I guess the enum value eeds to change

needs*

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:08 PM

yes. that's all you need to do. one line

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:08 PM

protocol.h @El BobLex

line 87

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:09 PM

ok thanks

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:09 PM

well, maybe the python generator file, as protocol is generated by a python file?

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:10 PM

no, it's not

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:10 PM

ok

h, yeah, it's in engine/shared

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:11 PM

and now time to recompile with bam?

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:11 PM

not in generated

yeah

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:11 PM

although last time bam doesnt detect VS

even after running the native cmd

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:11 PM

compile with whatever that works

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:11 PM

alternatively try the cmake way explained in the teeworlds github readme

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:12 PM

don't program before you have a build environment ready

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:12 PM

if bam doesn't work

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:32 PM

ok im getting errors with cmake, could i post the log here for you to see?

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:33 PM

use ``` to surround code

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:35 PM

The C compiler identification is unknown The CXX compiler identification is unknown Check for working C compiler: C:/MinGW/bin/gcc.exe Check for working C compiler: C:/MinGW/bin/gcc.exe -- broken CMake Error at E:/Program Files/CMake/share/cmake-3.15/Modules/CMakeTestCCompiler.cmake:60 (message): The C compiler "C:/MinGW/bin/gcc.exe" is not able to compile a simple test program. It fails with the following output: Change Dir: C:/Users/andre/Desktop/mkRace-ddr/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp Run Build Command(s):C:/MinGW/bin/mingw32-make.exe cmTC_7f91a/fast && C:/MinGW/bin/mingw32-make.exe -f CMakeFiles\cmTC_7f91a.dir\build.make CMakeFiles/cmTC_7f91a.dir/build mingw32-make.exe[1]: Entering directory 'C:/Users/andre/Desktop/mkRace-ddr/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp' Building C object CMakeFiles/cmTC_7f91a.dir/testCCompiler.c.obj C:\MinGW\bin\gcc.exe -o CMakeFiles\cmTC_7f91a.dir\testCCompiler.c.obj -c C:\Users\andre\Desktop\mkRace-ddr\build\CMakeFiles\CMakeTmp\testCCompiler.c CMakeFiles\cmTC_7f91a.dir\build.make:64: recipe for target 'CMakeFiles/cmTC_7f91a.dir/testCCompiler.c.obj' failed mingw32-make.exe[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/cmTC_7f91a.dir/testCCompiler.c.obj] Error 1 mingw32-make.exe[1]: Leaving directory 'C:/Users/andre/Desktop/mkRace-ddr/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp' Makefile:120: recipe for target 'cmTC_7f91a/fast' failed mingw32-make.exe: *** [cmTC_7f91a/fast] Error 2 CMake will not be able to correctly generate this project. Call Stack (most recent call first): CMakeLists.txt:22 (project) Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! See also "C:/Users/andre/Desktop/mkRace-ddr/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log". See also "C:/Users/andre/Desktop/mkRace-ddr/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".

i've follwed the readme on teeworlds github

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:37 PM

your build environment is broken somehow

don't use mingw

use VS on windows https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=CompilingEverything

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:38 PM

also found this

Compiling the C compiler identification source file "CMakeCCompilerId.c" failed. Compiler: C:/MinGW/bin/gcc.exe Build flags: Id flags: --target=arm-arm-none-eabi;-mcpu=cortex-m3 The output was: 1 gcc.exe: warning: '-mcpu=' is deprecated; use '-mtune=' or '-march=' instead gcc.exe: error: unrecognized command line option '--target=arm-arm-none-eabi' Checking whether the C compiler is IAR using "" did not match "IAR .+ Compiler": gcc.exe: fatal error: no input files compilation terminated. Checking whether the C compiler is IAR using "" did not match "IAR .+ Compiler": gcc.exe: fatal error: no input files compilation terminated.

VS doesnt work for me either lol

Dune 26-Aug-19 03:43 PM

Compiler: C:/MinGW/bin/gcc.exe

that's not VS

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 03:44 PM

no thats other info from error log

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 03:53 PM

cmake -G "Visual Studio 14"

or so and that's going to create a visual studio project, that you can open and most likely press some green play button to compile it.

I would create a vs folder, cd vs and then cmake -G "Visual Studio 14" .. (edited)

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:04 PM

CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:3 (file): file STRINGS file "C:/Users/andre/Desktop/mkRace-ddr/vs/src/game/version.h" cannot be read. CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:17 (message): Couldn't parse version from src/game/version.h

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 04:06 PM

well, it's not like I know(could be vanilla tw stuff) what's in either of those files, neither cmakelists.txt line 17 nor version.h

you got a repo link?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:07 PM

https://github.com/SNSnoop/mkRace

SNSnoop/mkRace

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to SNSnoop/mkRace development by creating an account on GitHub.

need a fresh cmakelists.txt

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 04:12 PM

I think it might be the line 6 in your version.h

#define GAME_VERSION "0.7.3"

might try it with this instead of yours

well, you could also alter the regular expression in the cmakelists.txt

that parses that string

Assa 26-Aug-19 04:16 PM

it says 16, 0, MAX_CLIENTS

16 - the default value - 0 - the min value - MAX_CLIENTS

MAX_CLIENTS = 64 while MAX_PLAYERS=16

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 04:17 PM

file(STRINGS src/game/version.h VERSION_LINE LIMIT_COUNT 1 REGEX GAME_RELEASE_VERSION ) if(VERSION_LINE MATCHES "\"([0-9]+)\\.([0-9]+)\\.([0-9]+|[0-9]+\\.[0-9]+)\".*") set(VERSION_MAJOR ${CMAKE_MATCH_1}) set(VERSION_MINOR ${CMAKE_MATCH_2}) set(VERSION_PATCH ${CMAKE_MATCH_3}) elseif(VERSION_LINE MATCHES "\"([0-9]+)\\.([0-9]+)\".*") set(VERSION_MAJOR ${CMAKE_MATCH_1}) set(VERSION_MINOR ${CMAKE_MATCH_2}) set(VERSION_PATCH "0") else() message(FATAL_ERROR "Couldn't parse version from src/game/version.h") endif()

(edited)

something like this, added .* here if(VERSION_LINE MATCHES "\"([0-9]+)\\.([0-9]+)\\.([0-9]+|[0-9]+\\.[0-9]+)\".*")

And elseif(VERSION_LINE MATCHES "\"([0-9]+)\\.([0-9]+)\".*")also a .* (edited)

Assa 26-Aug-19 04:21 PM

#define GAME_VERSION "0.7.3, mkRace " MKRACE_VERSION ""

this breaks CMake

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 04:24 PM

my regex doesn't match

might as well do something like this #define GAME_VERSION "0.7.3" ", mkRace " MKRACE_VERSION ""

to have the tw version separately at the beginning

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:26 PM

@jxsl13 could u send me your cmakelists.txt pls

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 04:27 PM

I am using the vanilla one. Your line 6 of version.h breaks the default script

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:27 PM

yes i need a fresh one

and i will try those changes

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 04:27 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds (edited)

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:28 PM

ty

yeh its still breaking

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 04:30 PM

remove this #define GAME_VERSION "0.7.3, mkRace " MKRACE_VERSION "" (edited)

add this #define GAME_VERSION "0.7.3" (edited)

for a fast fix xD

Dune 26-Aug-19 04:34 PM

or use bam

Assa 26-Aug-19 04:35 PM

^this

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:36 PM

@jxsl13 didnt work

and also bam doesnt work for me

i said before it never detcts VS version

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 04:37 PM

well, you should go back to your previous CMakeLists.txt version, that you just replaced with the vanilla version.

and maybe try again?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:39 PM

still didnt work

thanks for the help though. I'm gonna go do something else before my brain explodes

Assa 26-Aug-19 04:40 PM

why do you change the GAME_VERSION in the first place?

Dune 26-Aug-19 04:40 PM

You'd have a simpler way just fixing the bam detection imo

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:45 PM

and how does one do that

native cmd doesnt let me change directory lol

Dune 26-Aug-19 04:50 PM

something like "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 2014\VC\vcvarsall.bat" amd64

you can't cd from the native cmd?

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 04:51 PM

use powershell

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:52 PM

i cant change drive with the VS 2017 dev cmd

nah whatever i do it always says i need Visual Studio bla bla bla installed

im using 2017 community

Dune 26-Aug-19 04:59 PM

find the path to your vcvarsall.bat

then call it from regular cmd

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 04:59 PM

there is no such bat

with 2017 community

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 05:00 PM

download comunity 2015 version xD

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 05:00 PM

ffs

but teeworlds.com says download 2017 xD (edited)

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 05:01 PM

well, the teeworlds tests run on the 2015 VS version, if I have that right from the appveyor config file. (edited)

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 05:01 PM

someone needs to update the website then

i will download 2015

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 05:02 PM

bette download linux

xD

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 05:02 PM

i dont have my linux laptop with me rn lol

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 05:02 PM

"Fun With Windows"

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 05:02 PM

the fun never stops

Dune 26-Aug-19 05:03 PM

@El BobLex whatever VS version you have works

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 05:03 PM

but it doesnt

Dune 26-Aug-19 05:04 PM

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2017\Community\VC\Auxiliary\Build\vcvarsall.bat" x64

?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 05:05 PM

i have every directory up until C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2017\Community

i installed it like 2 days ago

unless theres a specific workload that i need maybe

I need desktop development with C++ installed

lmayo 26-Aug-19 05:26 PM

Joined the server.

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 05:50 PM

finally got bam compiled, try to compile the mod and i get this

configuration: configure.lua:367: no c/c++ compiler found bam: script error (-t for more detail)

Dune 26-Aug-19 05:53 PM

same thing, you need to call the vcvarsall thing

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 05:57 PM

DNS server not authoritative for zone.

WsY[FU]? 26-Aug-19 06:42 PM

search for developer command prompt for VS 2017

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 06:46 PM

configuration: AUTO compiler cl [string "src/driver_cl.lua"]:54: attempt to index a nil value (local 'f') bam: script error (-t for more detail)

Dune 26-Aug-19 06:49 PM

rm config.lua; bam

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 06:50 PM

?

del instead of rm for windows?

Dune 26-Aug-19 07:02 PM

Yes

Skayland 26-Aug-19 07:05 PM

Does "bam" mean something?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 07:06 PM

bam: error: 'other/freetype/windows/lib32/freetype.dll' does not exist and no way to generate it bam: error: a build step failed

got this after running conf=release

Dune 26-Aug-19 07:30 PM

@Skayland probably just an onomatopoeia. it's a build system used by teeworlds

@El BobLex try compiling master

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 07:31 PM

im not sure what u mean

WsY[FU]? 26-Aug-19 07:32 PM

master

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 07:45 PM

same thing

Dune 26-Aug-19 07:47 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2136

[bam] X does not exist and no way to generate it · Issue #2136 ·...

I'm on a brand new PC/installation, cloned teeworlds, built teeworlds/bam, and ran bam inside visual studio command prompt. I get this error message. bam: error: 'other/freetype/win...

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 07:58 PM

i mean, it started compiling but then just spat out loads of undeclared identifier errors and so many other errors

Dune 26-Aug-19 07:58 PM

the master branch?

try the suggestion in the issue

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 07:59 PM

i think im done i've spent all day and got nowhere trying to recompile something with 2 different characters lmao

and yes i did just that

Dune 26-Aug-19 07:59 PM

welcome to programming ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 07:59 PM

yeh it sucks lol

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:00 PM

depends on your tastes :D

I, on the other side, spent the day coloring flags and tees. It was alright :D

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:00 PM

sounds more enjoyable than what im doing lol

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:01 PM

well tbh getting your build system to work is not the best part, yeah

try bam -c; bam in any case

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:13 PM

that just did saved configuration to 'config.lua'

then i try conf=release again and get back to this

bam: error: 'other/freetype/windows/lib32/freetype.dll' does not exist and no way to generate it bam: error: a build step failed

yeh im done, i can't be bothered anymore

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:28 PM

did he try cmake yet?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:30 PM

yep

failed

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:37 PM

@Dune does your race mod allow more than 16 players to actually play? (edited)

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:38 PM

Yes

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:38 PM

Are you still adding new features? like /pause?

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:39 PM

Someone said he would PR it and never did

I'm not personally working on it anymore

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:40 PM

oh, i don't know what PR is but ok

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:40 PM

@El BobLex have you ever compiled something with your setup?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:40 PM

a simple tic tac toe game in c# xD

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:41 PM

Compile a simple hello world c++ project first

so we can actually confirm your setup can

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:43 PM

Why do you need to compile it yourself?

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:45 PM

There are many components to visual studio, it could be that he's missing required c++ components

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:45 PM

he compiled bam @LordSk

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:45 PM

done

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:45 PM

ok se he did compile something

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:45 PM

Again though, why don't you just take binary releases

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:47 PM

@El BobLex ever used cmake-gui?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:47 PM

yes but it failed, i posted error logs before

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:47 PM

my bad, let me scroll up

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:48 PM

@El BobLex ^

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:48 PM

oh you have mingw in your PATH

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:49 PM

lemme re-install

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:49 PM

re-install what?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:49 PM

idk, how to remove it from PATH

LordSk 26-Aug-19 08:49 PM

oh

google will help you there

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:51 PM

I still think you're doing this all for nothing and could just grab existing binaries @El BobLex

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:56 PM

i have very little knowledge in this, i have no idea what you mean. I just follow instructions from readme's

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:56 PM

What I'm saying is that you don't need to compile a server to run it if you can just download executables

.exe

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:57 PM

oh yeah, i understand that, i have the .exe already but it only allows 16 active players, what im trying to do is change that to 64, which i believe requires a recompile

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:58 PM

Are you sure it does?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:58 PM

yeah i joined when there was like 18 players and all i could do is sit in spectators

Dune 26-Aug-19 08:58 PM

This might be the host's config. Have you tried to run your own with sv_max_clients 32; sv_player_slots 32?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 08:59 PM

i changed them both to 64 in the autoexec.cfg (edited)

Dune 26-Aug-19 09:10 PM

@El BobLex it was on your server?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 09:13 PM

yes

Dune 26-Aug-19 09:15 PM

not sure where that went wrong, I can open slots just fine

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 09:17 PM

so my config should be fine now?

Dune 26-Aug-19 09:17 PM

I guess so?

check in rcon that the variables are properly set

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 09:17 PM

well i'll let you know

how would i know if they are?

Dune 26-Aug-19 09:20 PM

type them in f2

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 09:21 PM

ok i did that

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 10:24 PM

@Dune It is working now

I just did all that business for no reason lmao

Oh well, thanks for your help today, I appreciate it

Dune 26-Aug-19 10:24 PM

:)

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 10:33 PM

is the last answer now that it is not necessary to change MAX_PLAYERS ?

in the protocol?

Dune 26-Aug-19 10:34 PM

not if the mod already changed it lol

jxsl13 26-Aug-19 10:35 PM

hm, but in general if the max_player enum value is 16, you cannot change the config command to a higher value than that?

El BobLex 26-Aug-19 10:37 PM

sv_player_slots works fine as a variable for me

at least for the mod im using

Dune 26-Aug-19 10:50 PM

@jxsl13 that is true

2

jxsl13 27-Aug-19 10:48 AM

forum spam.

Assa 27-Aug-19 03:07 PM

@jxsl13 do you have gCTF already implemented?

jxsl13 27-Aug-19 03:23 PM

nope.

Just said to maybe use zCatch as base, cuz of spam spray stuff.

El BobLex 27-Aug-19 09:21 PM

i cant comment in bridge, but to chime in on that convo, i saw a screenshot the other day somewhere showing just over 2k players online

(edited)

Assa 27-Aug-19 10:02 PM

is there a way to fuse demos on the same map?

i need to overlap two demos

Dune 28-Aug-19 02:34 AM

Doesn't sound easy nor would make much sense

Assa 28-Aug-19 07:14 AM

just wanted to overlap two demos of a race, to see where a mistake is

ChillerDragon 28-Aug-19 12:03 PM

Ghosts

Dune 28-Aug-19 12:52 PM

I heard someone is on it :)

Assa 28-Aug-19 12:58 PM

i want ghosts of the top time

jxsl13 28-Aug-19 01:09 PM

I heard Dune is doing some client stuff. I am wondering, what exactly triggers the score board to be automatically shown.

Dune 28-Aug-19 01:17 PM

Game over flag?

jxsl13 28-Aug-19 01:42 PM

I'm putting players into dead spec mode. The player always sees for a fraction of a second the scoreboard.

Dune 28-Aug-19 01:50 PM

Dunno

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ChillerDragon 28-Aug-19 02:06 PM

Don’t u see scoreboard when you die?

Dune 28-Aug-19 02:06 PM

No PC atm

ChillerDragon 28-Aug-19 02:12 PM

Me neither but I am pretty sure

In 0.6 for sure

Die -> scoreboard

And dead spec mode sounds like die

jxsl13 28-Aug-19 02:54 PM

it is basically Die and then dead spec mode.

El BobLex 28-Aug-19 03:00 PM

is the website down or is it just me?

LordSk 28-Aug-19 03:11 PM

down for me as well

El BobLex 28-Aug-19 03:17 PM

its back on now

fokkonaut 28-Aug-19 03:44 PM

I have removed the scoreboard comeup and made an instant respawn

jxsl13 28-Aug-19 03:44 PM

@fokkonaut how? (edited)

fokkonaut 28-Aug-19 03:50 PM

Set RespawnTick to server()->tick()? xd

well, i have some more stuff for it, but thats the base

well, actually i have removed the whole RespawnTick variable :p

jxsl13 28-Aug-19 03:51 PM

well, I sometimes need a respawn delay. Is there anothet way?

is the respawn delay itself causing the scoreboard to pop up?

fokkonaut 28-Aug-19 03:52 PM

use respawntick, set it always to Server()->Tick(), but if you need it set it to the current one, which for example adds a 3 sec delay (which can be bypassed with a mouse click)

I am not sure why it is shown, I will have a look soon ,wait

fokkonaut 28-Aug-19 04:01 PM

yea idk xd

dont really have the time to figure this out rn

jxsl13 28-Aug-19 04:10 PM

k, thanks anyway.

lmayo 28-Aug-19 07:15 PM

nibbas

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jxsl13 28-Aug-19 07:40 PM

nobbos

AxelYT 28-Aug-19 08:38 PM

NI

AS

Deleted User 28-Aug-19 09:08 PM

i love how best spiderman game is teeworlds, and best sonic game is quake

niggers

witreck 28-Aug-19 09:30 PM

so like

there was this map I did with a friend called old school bkmz

and it just dissapeared one day

so im sad

is there some way any server hoster person can revieve it

El BobLex 28-Aug-19 10:29 PM

I’ll try find it and have a look what it’s like

jxsl13 28-Aug-19 10:36 PM

is a capút 14 in here?

witreck 29-Aug-19 12:19 AM

yeah its a pretty old style map but me and my friend played it when we first started playing teeworlds but never got a chance to complete it

Garwex 29-Aug-19 07:54 AM

yay

Deleted User 29-Aug-19 12:34 PM

gaywex

biggest

troll

Skwizz.py 29-Aug-19 01:20 PM

Joined the server.

Hey bro for the french players therre is my serveur whos just open !

https://discord.gg/xJTjtfn

Garwex 29-Aug-19 02:45 PM

https://teeworlds.com/?page=downloads

do this works on windows 8 ? (edited)

Downloaded the windows 64 version of the 0.7.3.1 and the game can't run :d

It's saying that something called "VCRUNTIME140.dll" is missing (edited)

LordSk 29-Aug-19 03:12 PM

@Garwex install this https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=48145

Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015

The Visual C++ Redistributable Packages install run-time components that are required to run C++ applications built using Visual Studio 2015.

Garwex 29-Aug-19 03:41 PM

Thanks

Garwex 29-Aug-19 03:59 PM

It FINALLY works

thanks a lot

it took 1 hour just for teeworlds (I just reseted my other computer)

Dune 29-Aug-19 04:32 PM

Oy was looking for a solution to this the other day but apparently there is very little doc to compile freetype on mingw :/

Assa 29-Aug-19 05:34 PM

you could do this by setting up an installer

Assa 29-Aug-19 06:50 PM

hey can anyone tell me what the keynames of arrow up and down are?

ChillerDragon 29-Aug-19 06:51 PM

names?

what names

Assa 29-Aug-19 06:51 PM

keyboard keys have names

if you want to bind something you need the keyname

ChillerDragon 29-Aug-19 06:51 PM

ah so bind names

just bind it in options in the gui

jao 29-Aug-19 06:52 PM

up and down

ChillerDragon 29-Aug-19 06:52 PM

and the look up the settings file

Assa 29-Aug-19 06:52 PM

like "mouse1" for the left mouse button

ChillerDragon 29-Aug-19 06:52 PM

but ye it sup down right left

Assa 29-Aug-19 06:52 PM

i want to bind page up and page down for scrolling in f1 for f2

there is no ui for that

ChillerDragon 29-Aug-19 06:52 PM

go esc

settings

and then set anything for example fire to a key u want

by just pressing it

and then u know the keyname if u look a the settings file

Assa 29-Aug-19 06:53 PM

doesn't matter anyways, there is no command to bind to

:C

ChillerDragon 29-Aug-19 06:53 PM

rip

time to cherry pick from ddnet xd

Assa 29-Aug-19 06:55 PM

do you do the PR?

there is an issue for that

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2202

Add universal PageUP/DOWN binds · Issue #2202 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Add universal PageUP/DOWN binds that can be used to trigger ingame elements like chat scoreboard...

ChillerDragon 29-Aug-19 06:57 PM

if u want me to do it i can do it later

Assa 29-Aug-19 06:59 PM

yes, i still have an open PR which will prob. causes a lot of work

and I don't have my linux laptop anymore ;C

ChillerDragon 29-Aug-19 07:09 PM

rip linux laptop what happend to him?

Deleted User 29-Aug-19 07:31 PM

this one blocker said i was spamming hammer even though i timed my hammer to fuck him up

is that really what 0.7 blockers say

ChillerDragon 29-Aug-19 07:56 PM

not that 0.6 blockers are any different lol

Deleted User 29-Aug-19 08:09 PM

0.7 blockers are worse at blocking

jxsl13 29-Aug-19 09:16 PM

spam + non-spam stuff in the forum.

Deleted User 29-Aug-19 09:35 PM

shit i didnt even notice

the game hanged

Trollet' 30-Aug-19 10:28 AM

Joined the server.

Mayi 30-Aug-19 10:22 PM

hola

fokkonaut 30-Aug-19 10:40 PM

buenos dias

jxsl13 31-Aug-19 09:49 AM

forum spam.

๖ۣۜ 𝔼ℕ𝔻𝔼𝔸𝕍𝕆ℝ༻ 31-Aug-19 10:06 AM

Joined the server.

I.K.U 31-Aug-19 02:46 PM

Joined the server.

AxelYT 31-Aug-19 02:49 PM

helo everyone

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 31-Aug-19 05:26 PM

@everyone who is the admin in monster mod by Neox ?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 31-Aug-19 05:52 PM

DM me plz

Deleted User 01-Sep-19 12:49 AM

Joined the server.

thestyxcode 01-Sep-19 04:06 AM

Nothing happens in here._.

Thats kinda sad

fokkonaut 01-Sep-19 09:01 AM

https://discord.gg/qccRrtb

Information about my mod and my server is in there^

El BobLex 01-Sep-19 11:19 AM

forum spam

El BobLex 01-Sep-19 12:21 PM

Is there a status page for 0.7 like 0.6 has status.tw ?

Alirezakaj 01-Sep-19 01:06 PM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 01-Sep-19 01:26 PM

status.tw is for both

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 01-Sep-19 02:01 PM

@everyone who is the admin in monster mod by Neox ?DM me plz if true

hum xd (サマ) 01-Sep-19 04:05 PM

Joined the server.

El BobLex 01-Sep-19 04:28 PM

oh ok

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 01-Sep-19 07:20 PM

@everyone who is the admin in monster mod by Neox ?DM me plz if true

Dune 01-Sep-19 07:23 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 if someone knows they will tell you. @'everyone is disabled here

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 01-Sep-19 07:28 PM

hmm okay

but who is the owner ? in the server ?

Dune 01-Sep-19 07:32 PM

what specific server are you talking about? go there, and check the server MOTD?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 02-Sep-19 10:39 AM

motd ?

El BobLex 02-Sep-19 10:43 AM

Message of the day

Dune 02-Sep-19 12:18 PM

Escape -> Server Info

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 02-Sep-19 02:13 PM

go where ?

jxsl13 02-Sep-19 02:26 PM

read the server info(message of the day) on your problem server. If there is some contact info, use it. if there isn't and nobody can help you here, even after your 10th attempt, I think you will not get helped then. (edited)

Escape is the key on the top left side of your keyboard. when you are connected to a server, press Esc and then press the server info button, which is a button in the teeworlds graphical user interface and then you can read the server info. (edited)

El BobLex 02-Sep-19 03:19 PM

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 02-Sep-19 06:50 PM

@jxsl13 thx <33

Majochup 02-Sep-19 09:14 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 02-Sep-19 09:41 PM

https://discord.gg/sraHpUB

we are making a city

based on 0.6.4 version

jxsl13 02-Sep-19 09:57 PM

try using 0.7.3 it's a better base.

Deleted User 02-Sep-19 11:51 PM

we're nub at programming

so...

rip

Dune 02-Sep-19 11:54 PM

As long as you do something you enjoy and learn on the way, it's double the benefits

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 02:55 AM

It's easier to mod with 0.7.3, I would say.

Also you can ask questions in here.

fokkonaut 03-Sep-19 06:15 AM

Its definitely easier to mod 0.6

And some stuff is simply impossible in 0.7

But when starting a new mod, I would use the latest release ofc

Dune 03-Sep-19 08:48 AM

There might be more resources/guides for 0.6 too atm

@fokkonaut which parts became more complex?

fokkonaut 03-Sep-19 08:58 AM

cant make gun and hammer Pickups anymore, due to the new PICKUP_ enum which doesnt have gun and hammer, snap functions (especially player) cant be modified nicely anymore (no name, other skins, etc)

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name Changes can not apply to yourself (you wont see it)

Dune 03-Sep-19 09:01 AM

I mean in terms of code complexity, not in terms of possibilities

fokkonaut 03-Sep-19 09:07 AM

I never said that the code got more complex

Dune 03-Sep-19 09:16 AM

Ah, you said it is "easier", so I assumed that

ChillerDragon.* 03-Sep-19 01:53 PM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 03-Sep-19 02:28 PM

@ChillerDragon

ChillerDragon 03-Sep-19 02:30 PM

1

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 05:02 PM

@MrCosmo

server and player stats don't do anything when clicked

Dune 03-Sep-19 05:04 PM

damn, the mobile version of status.tw is sick

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 05:05 PM

@jxsl13 I will check that. Thank you.

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 05:06 PM

np

Thank you, I often use it :)

Oh I see the problem. Those arrows directly next to the menu entry name have a weird behaviour and seem to be not needed. The arrows at the right side work fine.

Looking for version 0.7 with gamemode "zCatch" servers I also get 0.6.x servers.

Dune 03-Sep-19 05:16 PM

Oo

ah, on the site

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 07:15 PM

@jxsl13 yes the arrows on the right side will trigger the dropdown. I've removed the arrows behind the text. I've also fixed the bug with searching for a specific version. Thanks for your bug reports.

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 07:24 PM

editing profile gives me a 404

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 07:25 PM

Oh you shouldn't even see this

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 07:26 PM

I wonder how do I get back to that dashboard, that was visible at first login.

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 07:31 PM

Is it even allowed to talk about that offtopic topics here in this discord? We could also talk about that privately if it's fine for you.

Dune 03-Sep-19 07:32 PM

status.tw is relevant to teeworlds

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 07:34 PM

Suggestion for those copy and paste type of fields (like where those styles for pkayers etc sre shown), add a button to copy that stuff directly to clipboard, I was just now trying to copy that on my phone, it was super fiddly.

Hopefully that works on the phone browsers.

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 07:35 PM

alright. @jxsl13 You should see a Dashboard link on the top menu. And yea I think I can add a button to copy that to clipboard

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 07:37 PM

edit profile is gone.

don't see a dashboard link. is it in the main menu or below the profile?

well after logging oit an in again Ibsee tue dashboard, but how does one while logged in get there without logging out and in again :D

Anyway cool stuff, keep it up.

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 07:41 PM

There isn't any capability check. You should see the Dashboard all the time when signed in

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 07:42 PM

While logged in, it would be cool to be able to add servers directly from the server search to those dashboard statistics. (edited)

I'm on the mobile version of the site :'(

Ok, I saw it on the desktop version, that it's directly next to the username link.

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 07:46 PM

You've tried it on mobile before? Or Desktop?

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 07:46 PM

I'm on mobile the whole time.

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 07:46 PM

Ah ok. Now I see your Dashboard problem

You should be able to see it on mobile now

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 07:55 PM

I cannot login on the mobile view, Sign In is gone. (edited)

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 08:00 PM

How is it now?

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 08:03 PM

it's there

login works perfectly.

english german french

MrCosmo 03-Sep-19 08:22 PM

removed for now because there aren't any translations yet

jxsl13 03-Sep-19 08:31 PM

ok

fokkonaut 03-Sep-19 10:21 PM

@MrCosmo wanted to say that for a long time already: If you are in the status section to see which masters are up, and you click the drop down arrow from one of the versions (0.6 or 0.7) both will disappear/appear

Deleted User 04-Sep-19 12:00 PM

I'm still thinking that there are more players on 0.6 version than 0.7.

fokkonaut 04-Sep-19 12:12 PM

Please rename, I thought you are angry never

jxsl13 04-Sep-19 01:35 PM

you need to think about what is to come, when your mod is ready, not what is currently happening. New people start on 0.7. And old people are slowly switching to 0.7.

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jason54 04-Sep-19 01:43 PM

why his spam in my console

Dune 04-Sep-19 01:53 PM

debug 0 maybe

Or is that a modified server?

MαGιѕKυll 04-Sep-19 02:39 PM

Joined the server.

LordSk 04-Sep-19 02:56 PM

@Dune https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2206

re #1496 , debug logs provide shooting and velocity information by...

with these , and in combination with https://github.com/allan-simon/teeworlds-logs-to-elastic-search , one can now have a nice real time dashboard with various stats about the game

Dune 04-Sep-19 03:07 PM

Yeah try with debug 0 (that should be the default)

jxsl13 04-Sep-19 04:22 PM

Any mappers in here? Looking for zCatch(more or less last man standing) maps .

jason54 04-Sep-19 04:56 PM

No @Dune

Dune 04-Sep-19 04:57 PM

@jason54 so that's a server? you probably have debug 1 in your cfg?

jason54 04-Sep-19 05:06 PM

No

Dune 04-Sep-19 05:08 PM

indeed. thanks for the bug report @jason54

fokkonaut 04-Sep-19 05:11 PM

@Dune Just curious, what caused this? (edited)

Dune 04-Sep-19 05:11 PM

the pull request mentioned above

fokkonaut 04-Sep-19 05:11 PM

Yea, but it says Outputlevel debug

Dune 04-Sep-19 05:25 PM

@fokkonaut it restricts output ingame (console_output_level) but not in console

fokkonaut 04-Sep-19 05:25 PM

so its like a dbg_msg?

Dune 04-Sep-19 05:25 PM

void CConsole::Print(int Level, const char *pFrom, const char *pStr, bool Highlighted) { ... dbg_msg(pFrom ,"%s", pStr); for(int i = 0; i < m_NumPrintCB; ++i) if(Level <= m_aPrintCB[i].m_OutputLevel && m_aPrintCB[i].m_pfnPrintCallback) m_aPrintCB[i].m_pfnPrintCallback(aBuf, m_aPrintCB[i].m_pPrintCallbackUserdata, Highlighted);

the dbg_msg is not in the condition

Deleted User 04-Sep-19 09:15 PM

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jxsl13 05-Sep-19 12:42 AM

@Dune you were too fast gone, couldn't even get my puns ready :c

jason54 05-Sep-19 03:27 AM

here are the possible skins for teeworlds 0.7 there will be new soon (http://blackpast-mc.fr/Skins)

ReiTW 05-Sep-19 09:13 AM

-mc?

Dune 05-Sep-19 01:24 PM

Ported TeeComp (custom team colors, laser colors, etc.): https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12918

[CLIENT][0.7] TeeComp (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

[CLIENT][0.7] TeeComp (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

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fokkonaut 05-Sep-19 01:39 PM

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 03:45 PM

classic

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 05:17 PM

Attachment: teecomp_warning_fixes.patch (2.16 KB)

@Dune

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 05:28 PM

Termination Reason: DYLD, [0x3] Wrong version Application Specific Information: dyld: launch, loading dependent libraries Dyld Error Message: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../Frameworks/SDL2.framework/SDL2 Referenced from: /Users/USER/Desktop/*/teeworlds.app/Contents/MacOS/teeworlds Reason: Incompatible library version: teeworlds requires version 11.0.0 or later, but SDL2 provides version 1.0.0

where do I find that required version part Oo?

Dune 05-Sep-19 05:53 PM

gdi I always forget to update the CMakeLists file

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 05:57 PM

I'm not getting it bundled for mac properly :'(

Dune 05-Sep-19 05:58 PM

thanks @jxsl13

it builds but bundling fails somehow?

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 05:59 PM

it bundles, but executing the .app 'file' causes that error up there.

Dune 05-Sep-19 06:01 PM

gotta ask our Mac expert @ChillerDragon

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:02 PM

I cannot find where that library version requirement is defined

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:05 PM

Actually @heinrich5991 is the mac expert. Im just his lil trainee.

Dune 05-Sep-19 06:05 PM

we're all someone's trainee :)

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:05 PM

@jxsl13 you can use otool -L teeworlds.app/Contents/MacOS/teeworlds to see where it searches the librarys

And if you are planning to make a release that is used by others i would bundle it into the app

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:06 PM

I know where the libraries are stored. The library version doesn't match, what teeworlds requires.

and rw requires some weire version

tw

weird

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:07 PM

ya 11.0.0 seems kinda high

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:07 PM

Do you know where to find that requirement?

Dune 05-Sep-19 06:07 PM

we might have to wait a while before sdl11 is out

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:08 PM

SDL version 2.0.10 (stable)

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:08 PM

well, cya in 50 years

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:08 PM

looks like latest is >11

more like 10

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:09 PM

I have sdl2 2.10 that framework thingy put it into other/mac/sdl/lib64/ in order to bundle it

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:09 PM

what are you trying to do?

who is this app for?

for public?

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:10 PM

bundle .app

yeah it's teecomp

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:10 PM

ok then i recommend cmake .. -PREFER_BUNDLED_LIBS=ON

make package_dmg (edited)

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:10 PM

the second one I did

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:10 PM

you can't expect users to install sdl2

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:10 PM

first one, didn't

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:10 PM

especially not mac users xd

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:11 PM

it's being copied into the .app folders into frameworks

but just the version missmatch

ChillerDragon 05-Sep-19 06:12 PM

well anyways bundled libs makes sense. For me it always launched but then non dev mac users were missing libcrypto or libpng.

But in your case it seems like you have the wrong version of sdl2 installed on your computer and it is copied into the app

Im not sure if someone once told me that tw is using a weird sdl version and where to get it or if i just did brew install sdl2 Oy might know how to get the correct version.

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:14 PM

I think cmake is copying the one I downloaded and put into others/sdl/mac/lib64/SDL2.framework (which is the recent one from the sdl website) also did install sdl2 via brew, but I kinda doubt that that one ise being used, even tho it's also the latest

/usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.2.11) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon (compatibility version 2.0.0, current version 158.0.0) @executable_path/../Frameworks/libfreetype.6.dylib (compatibility version 24.0.0, current version 24.1.0) @executable_path/../Frameworks/SDL2.framework/SDL2 (compatibility version 11.0.0, current version 11.0.0)

weird

jxsl13 05-Sep-19 06:28 PM

it's weird, that the .app file works if I do not put the .framework file into that specific folder, but doesn't bundle, because that file is not being found.

redix 05-Sep-19 06:28 PM

did anybody try serverside demos since 0.7 was released?

ChillerDragon.* 05-Sep-19 06:32 PM

not that i know

@jxsl13 i have sdl2.0.8 btw

Arktict 05-Sep-19 07:09 PM

Joined the server.

slt

Iman 05-Sep-19 07:11 PM

english only

hello

SeeEss 05-Sep-19 11:30 PM

Joined the server.

yo

Arktict 06-Sep-19 08:40 AM

... bye

fokkonaut 06-Sep-19 04:13 PM

https://discord.gg/85eK9gE

my 0.7 server

with acc system and ddrace features and more

Deleted User 06-Sep-19 08:55 PM

big virus

fokkonaut 06-Sep-19 08:56 PM

u

Dune 06-Sep-19 09:24 PM

now that it's been a while with 0.7, do you see the new menus as an improvement, or do you prefer the old menus?

fokkonaut 06-Sep-19 09:26 PM

Its both, nicer and also more "confusing"

idk

but its ok i think

jason54 06-Sep-19 10:02 PM

how can I do to record all player score on a database

Dune 06-Sep-19 10:42 PM

@jxsl13 ^

fokkonaut 06-Sep-19 11:27 PM

perfection.

ChillerDragon.* 07-Sep-19 01:16 AM

I love the background and the pre menu. But the server browser is still worse than 0.6 imo.

fokkonaut 07-Sep-19 01:40 AM

I had a weird editor bug today, the background was not this pattern, it was some clouds and the left and top menu bars were the night jungle theme xd

Deleted User 07-Sep-19 03:45 AM

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Dune 07-Sep-19 08:59 AM

That is god mode @fokkonaut

♫Pluto♫ 07-Sep-19 10:20 AM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 07-Sep-19 12:15 PM

xd

RA'ED 07-Sep-19 06:12 PM

Joined the server.

Garwex 07-Sep-19 11:15 PM

did lolinet just shut down ?

Dune 07-Sep-19 11:18 PM

yes

<TeeSlayer> I launched Lolinet originally because there were almost no servers for 0.7. From January to March I think I was the only one hosting DDRace, hehe. But now there is no need for Lolinet anymore and other server admins have spun up better services.

#bridge

Deleted User 07-Sep-19 11:28 PM

why is it named lolinet

heinrich5991 07-Sep-19 11:33 PM

LOLinet?

1

Deleted User 07-Sep-19 11:58 PM

dont you mean LOLInet

1

El BobLex 08-Sep-19 12:36 AM

I dunno why multimap_less is always the most populated. Who plays the same map every day lol. Would be nice to see more players trying other mods too

Dune 08-Sep-19 12:38 AM

we're 7 on instagib, why don't you join us

El BobLex 08-Sep-19 12:41 AM

I’m at work

I miss the old instagib days, I used to grind it on 0.5 on that old saved scores server

Dune 08-Sep-19 12:43 AM

ooh I forgot about those

Deleted User 08-Sep-19 10:18 AM

is that the 1 hit shot kill laser mod?

ChillerDragon 08-Sep-19 10:18 AM

Yes

Deleted User 08-Sep-19 10:18 AM

oo yeah i remember grinding it too

El BobLex 08-Sep-19 11:35 AM

yeh, hoping someone ports saved instagib to 0.7

also has anyone made a map collection for 0.7 yet?

heinrich5991 08-Sep-19 11:38 AM

no, not specifically

El BobLex 08-Sep-19 11:40 AM

ok

fokkonaut 08-Sep-19 12:10 PM

@Garwex lolinet is still alive

Dune 08-Sep-19 12:12 PM

it was done earlier at least @fokkonaut

jxsl13 08-Sep-19 12:18 PM

is there anything special about instagib other than instant death and only one weapon?

that has been maybe introduced in 0.6?

Dune 08-Sep-19 12:44 PM

no

El BobLex 08-Sep-19 12:52 PM

Lolinet closing on 9th September I think. It says on the motd

fokkonaut 08-Sep-19 01:26 PM

it says 8th

El BobLex 08-Sep-19 01:32 PM

^

Ragafaya 08-Sep-19 02:01 PM

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hZedres 08-Sep-19 03:57 PM

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LikableTester82 08-Sep-19 04:25 PM

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aisyx 08-Sep-19 04:26 PM

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Dune 08-Sep-19 05:06 PM

Hey @Arseniy Zarche

I think you've been experimenting with joystick support

cracknotgood 08-Sep-19 10:16 PM

hey guys, (how) can i switch weapon skins when i have the steam version?

Dune 08-Sep-19 10:17 PM

you have to navigate to the steam install folder, and replace game.png

heinrich5991 08-Sep-19 10:19 PM

or go to your settings folder and put the game.png in the equivalent directory

Dune 08-Sep-19 10:19 PM

@heinrich5991 has to be in a data folder?

heinrich5991 08-Sep-19 10:25 PM

no, directly

fokkonaut 08-Sep-19 10:32 PM

[2019-09-08 22:25:13][server]: client dropped. cid=14 addr=77.40.62.95:1451 reason='' [2019-09-08 22:25:13][game]: kill killer='16:Tea' victim='14:onix666' weapon=-3 special=0 killer_team:0 victim_team:0 [2019-09-08 22:25:13][assert]: /home/teeworlds/git/F-DDrace/src/engine/server/server.cpp(132): id is not alloced

any ideas?

jxsl13 08-Sep-19 10:46 PM

install lldb and run again in e debugger :D?

a

weapon -3 is weire, as that's usially killed by the game

weird

fokkonaut 08-Sep-19 10:58 PM

client dropped

So thats normal

if its -3

killer is a tee because i save the last contact to another tee

so he gets the kill

so thats normal too

and in most cases this works

Dune 08-Sep-19 10:59 PM

either get a debugger like jxsl13 suggests, or at least check out the relevant line?

fokkonaut 08-Sep-19 10:59 PM

This was one in hundreds of kills

I did

It is in SnapFreeID

the state is 1, which is an errorstate afaik

jxsl13 08-Sep-19 11:07 PM

access after free?

maybe relocate access before the client gets dropped

fokkonaut 08-Sep-19 11:08 PM

I didnt touch this part of the code at all, so I have no clue what to do here, or how

jxsl13 08-Sep-19 11:09 PM

well, then you would need to have a stacktrace to see, which of your functions called that line

Dune 08-Sep-19 11:09 PM

probably need to attach a debugger

or become really smart :P

fokkonaut 08-Sep-19 11:12 PM

xd

Jaden 09-Sep-19 04:32 AM

Joined the server.

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 02:50 PM

@Dune sorry for late answer, but yep, i have connected joystick to teeworlds

Dune 09-Sep-19 02:51 PM

np @Arseniy Zarche

what controller do you have?

we recently added a GUI for joystick configuration

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 03:04 PM

dualshock 3 six-axis

from playstation 3

Dune 09-Sep-19 03:05 PM

oh, okay

so you're on windows

teeworlds trunk for win64 in case you don't want to build it yourself :)

jason54 09-Sep-19 03:47 PM

hello I have an error with the sirius mod (OPENFNG) when there is not a lot of player everything is fine and as soon as they start to have about 10 players the server crash and it gives me this error (Segmentation fault)

Dune 09-Sep-19 04:06 PM

can't help you since this is a mod related problem

talk with mod dev(s)

jason54 09-Sep-19 04:12 PM

I would like to contact him but I can not find him he is not on this discord by chance

jxsl13 09-Sep-19 04:35 PM

use github issue tracker

of that mod to contact the author.

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:23 PM

i'm here, i'll try it right now

sorry for delay

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:23 PM

no problem, take your time

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:24 PM

usually i take my time a lot

:D

0.0

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:25 PM

I think you have a russian virus :P

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:25 PM

teeworlds_trunk.exe - Error of executable file Error with start executable (0xc000007b) For exit from executable file press ok

it's not a virus

it's just a error

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:26 PM

ah

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:26 PM

it's just windows classical error window lol :D (edited)

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:26 PM

I guess your teeworlds repo is 32bit

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:26 PM

hmmmm

ok

i'll try to download 64

where is it?

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:31 PM

settings > controls

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:31 PM

here isn't new

what the language do you use?

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:33 PM

huh, english

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:33 PM

that's not a problem

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:34 PM

ah, I didn't update teeworlds before building it, sorry

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:34 PM

np (edited)

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:35 PM

Attachment: teeworlds_trunk.exe (2.65 MB)

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 08:35 PM

virus

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:35 PM

xd

i'll check it on virustotal

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 08:36 PM

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:36 PM

early i worked in cryptocurrency layer

that was risky xD

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 08:36 PM

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:37 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOW

DUNE

NICE WORK

VERY NICE

looks EPIC

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 08:38 PM

what is it?

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:39 PM

read higher

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 08:39 PM

im lazy

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:39 PM

GUI of joystick

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 08:39 PM

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:39 PM

you can play teeworlds with joystick

it's too funny

@Dune can you ask your collegaeases (how to write this? :D) to work with rumble, pls

and the last - how can i move with one of axises?

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:40 PM

rumble? what is that?

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:40 PM

jitter of joystick

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:40 PM

that's the whole test, whether you can figure alone how it works

if you can't, it's bad

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:41 PM

i can move with buttons

but i want to move with joystick

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:41 PM

yeah that's on the todo

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:41 PM

if i can't what?

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:41 PM

how the gui works

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:41 PM

works very well

very very very very

perfect

120%

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:41 PM

alright, cool

it's difficult to develop move-with-joystick without a joystick

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:41 PM

ahahah

yea)

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:42 PM

but if you can test that, it'll be on the plans

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:42 PM

ok, that's not a problem

just ask me (edited)

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:42 PM

what sensitivity is good for you?

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:42 PM

you mean inp_mousesens? or jitter tolerance?

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:42 PM

joystick sensitivity

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 08:42 PM

we need a tutorial -> making a skin for teeworlds version 0.7

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:43 PM

many and many people doesn't know how to do it

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:43 PM

yeah skins are too high entry barrier atm, @Deleted User , I agree

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:43 PM

but it's pretty easy!

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 08:43 PM

idk if i have some time to make one

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:43 PM

you just draw parts separately instead of the skin image

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:43 PM

hm Dune

i have a small problem

in the gui

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:43 PM

what is it?

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:44 PM

i mean this red line which means jitter tolerance

even when white circle is out of red line

it's don't move

i mean a some pixels

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:44 PM

so it's a bit inaccurate?

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:45 PM

i'll show you

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:45 PM

the white circle is a bit fat so I guess it's difficult to tell?

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:45 PM

-.-

wait

i dont like print screen in tw, it works too strange

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:45 PM

you mean you'd want it in your clipboard instead?

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:45 PM

here you can see

that white circle is out of red line

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:46 PM

but joystick doesn't move?

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:46 PM

but mouse doesn't move

yea

i think you need a bit correct him

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:46 PM

yes, I will take my belt

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:46 PM

just make red line is +2 pixels or something

or 4-5, i can't say clearly

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 08:46 PM

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:47 PM

I think it's a bit more delicate because with my virtual joystick it works fine

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:47 PM

and 3, 6 axises

do you see it?

it's a one-axis joysticks

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:47 PM

I guess you don't have a joystick for those?

oh, okay

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:47 PM

nono

i have

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:47 PM

pretty cool then :)

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:47 PM

wait :D

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:47 PM

you need a high joystick sensitivity though

some people use 1% lol (edited)

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:48 PM

these joysticks

is not a joysticks as 1-2 and 3,4

it's a soft buttons

hmmm....

L2 and R2 is these joysticks

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:49 PM

ooh

didn't know of those

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:49 PM

it's not an axises in full meaning

it uses in car-games

when you need to move a bit or move a lot

i hope you understood me

so you need put the red line to left

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:50 PM

yeah I understand (edited)

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:50 PM

or rework support of these axises in general

it works good, when i put 'X' on them, they are going left

if i will press this button on 50% and get red line in white circle

get white circle in red line*

it doesn't move, all is ok

but it's unuse

i think

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:51 PM

so you can go left but not right?

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:52 PM

no

i can go left and right

if i dont touch this joystick, it's go left

if i press for 100% it go right

if i press for 50% it doesn't move

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:52 PM

ahhh, yeah that's not good

so there should be an "unidirectional" option for axises

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:53 PM

yea

and the last one

if ONE of axises is going from zone of tolerance

all axises moves as they dont have this zone of tolerance

Dune 09-Sep-19 08:56 PM

huh, really

ooh, I think I know why

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 08:56 PM

that's good

Dune 09-Sep-19 09:01 PM

^ fixes it

Arseniy Zarche 09-Sep-19 09:04 PM

doesn't work

when i put white circle to left it doesn't work

with 3 and 6 axises it works good

but not with another

Dune 09-Sep-19 09:06 PM

indeed

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 09:19 PM

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 09:32 PM

@Dune well, only this is a bit tricky <-

from 0.7 skin system

Dune 09-Sep-19 09:32 PM

yes

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 09:32 PM

but still possible oO

even for me

Dune 09-Sep-19 09:32 PM

if you don't use custom_colors it's not very hard

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 09:32 PM

^^

i just wanna port my nanami skin into 0.7

i dont need custom colors

Dune 09-Sep-19 09:33 PM

:) if you just cut all parts and set custom_colors to false it shouldn't be too hard

Deleted User 09-Sep-19 09:33 PM

yeee :D

hm colors are not that hard as i expected :) (edited)

Dune 09-Sep-19 09:49 PM

@Arseniy Zarche should be fixed now... if you don't mind trying again :)

Nooodles 09-Sep-19 11:07 PM

Joined the server.

hey

Dune 09-Sep-19 11:07 PM

hey

Nooodles 09-Sep-19 11:07 PM

hey

what is tee trunk

what is it

what it is

/so what is it

what is it

ill download it but what is it

Dune 09-Sep-19 11:10 PM

just a test dev version

Nooodles 09-Sep-19 11:10 PM

of what

jxsl13 09-Sep-19 11:16 PM

teeworlds client

jason54 09-Sep-19 11:39 PM

there would be a possibility to disable the rocket projections on the other player with mod mkrace for a solo server

fokkonaut 10-Sep-19 06:18 AM

I dont think mkRace has that feature already

Deleted User 10-Sep-19 03:57 PM

anyone remember the teeworlds cake post on the forum

fokkonaut 10-Sep-19 08:07 PM

:D

top1 :o

in master

Iman 10-Sep-19 08:07 PM

gg !

fokkonaut 10-Sep-19 08:08 PM

:)

teini94 10-Sep-19 08:31 PM

I am top1 in master

jason54 10-Sep-19 08:31 PM

@fokkonaut you have not yet reached my score which is 48 player on a single server and without bot ;)

fokkonaut 10-Sep-19 08:31 PM

true xd

but multimap lul

jason54 10-Sep-19 08:32 PM

...

Deleted User 10-Sep-19 09:53 PM

XD

teini94 10-Sep-19 11:55 PM

@Dune wanna see some real pros?

Dune 10-Sep-19 11:56 PM

that is?

teini94 10-Sep-19 11:58 PM

come ictf

Dune 11-Sep-19 02:29 PM

Submissions welcome for https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028716472-Server-Banner-Background-Invite-Splash-Image btw

Iman 11-Sep-19 07:21 PM

does grenade aimbot for 0.7 exist ?

Dune 11-Sep-19 07:23 PM

not that I know of

those are most commonly cases of paranoia

Iman 11-Sep-19 07:30 PM

ok

i just saw a guy who were playing grenade instagib with an aimbot

he admitted that he had one

Dune 11-Sep-19 07:31 PM

possible

Iman 11-Sep-19 07:32 PM

he is always on the serv i think, but spectating now ppl banned him bcs of his aimbot

Dune 11-Sep-19 07:32 PM

reporting such people is of no use

except for the local admins

Iman 11-Sep-19 07:33 PM

k

ChillerDragon 11-Sep-19 07:36 PM

nade aimbot is most useless bot tbh. Grenade is more spray and prediction than actual aim.

reaper 11-Sep-19 11:27 PM

i agree with @ChillerDragon (edited)

WsY[FU]? 11-Sep-19 11:47 PM

nade aimbot implies prediction

jxsl13 11-Sep-19 11:53 PM

they existed in 0.6 and were prettx subtile sometimes and sometimes obviously too good.

Iman 12-Sep-19 12:06 AM

well the one i saw was very obvious

and pretty effective

he killed the whole serv

there wasn't rlly good players on the serv, but it's still a thing

we were like 8 or 9

but the guy with the aimbot wasn't even grenade boosting himself, and his grenade launcher was literally disappearing and reappearing

when he was launching a nade to kill someone

Dune 12-Sep-19 12:14 AM

just kick him and move on

Hierza 12-Sep-19 12:25 AM

Joined the server.

TGhostxD 12-Sep-19 05:50 AM

Joined the server.

eleissor 12-Sep-19 07:57 AM

Joined the server.

hi

heinrich5991 12-Sep-19 11:07 AM

hi o/

HMH 12-Sep-19 06:07 PM

Joined the server.

ChillerDragon 12-Sep-19 06:08 PM

yo @HMH

5

6

5

HMH 12-Sep-19 06:08 PM

Hi.

amir hk12 12-Sep-19 06:11 PM

Joined the server.

Nooodles 13-Sep-19 12:13 AM

who wants to play ttee worlds

jxsl13 13-Sep-19 12:18 PM

these people :D https://status.tw/player/list/

Online Player list - status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Sep-19 10:23 AM

oh nice

jxsl13 14-Sep-19 05:26 PM

looking for some native english speaking people, to look over some text

who had a proper education and know where and how to properly place a comma

(edited)

heinrich5991 14-Sep-19 05:32 PM

are you german?

jxsl13 14-Sep-19 05:33 PM

si

heinrich5991 14-Sep-19 05:36 PM

just drop all the commas

jxsl13 14-Sep-19 05:36 PM

:c I want them

heinrich5991 14-Sep-19 05:36 PM

if there's one that makes understanding hard, keep it, but otherwise drop all the commas

yes, that's because you're german

jxsl13 14-Sep-19 05:36 PM

x)

heinrich5991 14-Sep-19 05:37 PM

no comma in front of words that obviously start a subordinate clause, e.g. "that" etc.

jxsl13 14-Sep-19 05:37 PM

;'c

ok

jxsl13 14-Sep-19 05:52 PM

@Dune , you are joining and leaving zCatch too fast :'c

axiom 14-Sep-19 07:13 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 16-Sep-19 01:25 AM

Joined the server.

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 08:39 AM

Joined the server.

Is this the official Teeworlds Discord?

Dune 16-Sep-19 09:08 AM

Hi @MatiasMunk

We have a checkmark, so we got that going for us :)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:10 AM

Awesome, just figuring out how to compile Teeworlds right now.

Would I choose to configure for masterserver or server if I just want the server? Or perhaps both?

What will configure for tools and content do?

Dune 16-Sep-19 09:31 AM

Sorry, my internet is not very stable

You only need to compile the server (so just bam server if you use bam), @MatiasMunk

The default compiles client and server

We plan on having a build bot over at Github Releases btw

If you use a build routine for vanilla, you might want to pull trunk Teeworlds from github

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:43 AM

What are the correct package names for these?

It's okay I will host server files on my own server, and make sure to update when an update arrives.

Dune 16-Sep-19 09:43 AM

I will tell you when I manage to load the image

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:44 AM

Uhh

E: Unable to locate package gl E: Unable to locate package glu E: Unable to locate package x11 E: Unable to locate package libsdl2 E: Unable to locate package freetype

Better?

Ah, guess I can use apt-cache search X

Dune 16-Sep-19 09:45 AM

sudo apt install build-essential cmake git libfreetype6-dev libsdl2-dev libpnglite-dev libwavpack-dev python3

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:45 AM

Oh, thank you!

Dune 16-Sep-19 09:45 AM

From the readme

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:45 AM

Wow, I should learn to read.

What about gl and glu, etc, teeworlds compile guide says it's required.

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=compiling_everything_linux

Perhaps that's only needed for the client, yeah?

Maybe that guide is obsolete? Uh.. Will just follow readme, seems more relevant than the guide on that page. (edited)

Oh, that's for building with bam, but the readme is not. I see! Better follow the readme, seems more familiar to me to just build with cmake.

Dune 16-Sep-19 09:58 AM

Bam is still up to date

You don't need to build bam on ubuntu just apt install bam :)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:59 AM

I see, however I will just go the cmake route, it's much more familiar to me. Unless there are any benefits to going the bam route?

Dune 16-Sep-19 10:42 AM

No, they are equivalent

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 10:50 AM

with cmake, how do I build only the server and not the client? Bam does this with

./bam/bam config ./bam/bam -f conf=release server

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:21 AM

cmake .. -DCLIENT=OFF

not sure tho @MatiasMunk

@Dune verified discord? o.O wat does that even mean haha

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:22 AM

@ChillerDragon we get discord.gg/ teworlds and some perks like custom banners / splash screens (edited)

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:23 AM

ah ye cool looked it up

for free?

I was impressed by /teeworlds but didnt notice the checkmark until you mentioned it

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:23 AM

@MatiasMunk I only know bam, sorry

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:24 AM

thanks for making search bar highlighted by default @Dune ❤

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:25 AM

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:26 AM

finally vanilla client has something better than ddnet o.O

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:27 AM

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:28 AM

wat is this deamon?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:28 AM

Docker

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:28 AM

ah

so your docker container crashed?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:28 AM

Oh, right I forgot to add the entrypoint

'My bad!

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:29 AM

Oh

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:30 AM

Free Vanilla hosting will be up in less than an hour, I think

(edited)

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:31 AM

o.O

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:31 AM

What other free hosting would you like to see? DDRace, Race, Instagib?

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:32 AM

zcatch is pretty solid in 0.7 already i think @jxsl13 is maintining it pretty well

not sure about the other mods

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 11:32 AM

My mod

best

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:32 AM

not public fag

xd

:p

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 11:32 AM

U

say thy to jason

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:32 AM

haha

well but ur ddnet7 is public

that can be hosted

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

Ne

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

Dune made Simple DDRace for 0.7

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

yikes

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

Without ddnet

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

and i made ddnet for 0.7

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

and without ddrace xd

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

what's ddnet vs ddrace?

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

Better

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

Huh

In what way?

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

ddnet is the update for ddrace

check ddrace.info

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

Hm??

Okay

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

but you dont need to host them, ddnet will do that soon probably

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:33 AM

Is it not only for ddnet client?

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:34 AM

no

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 11:34 AM

No

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:34 AM

Owh.

I was under the impression that DDNet did not work without custom DDNet client

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:34 AM

No hate and all i love @Dune but his ddrace version is pretty incomplete. Please don't spread it too much wihtout upgrading it a bit :c

also the freeze sound is sooo annoying :c

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 11:34 AM

True

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

It's meant to be basic and only-the-necessary

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

ya

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

Others can and have built on top of it :)

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

and not to be a mod of free public hosting

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

Do I have to compile with content as well? Or what ....

I want default maps to be included

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

--recursive

git clone --recursive

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

I don't use git

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

yikes

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

I host files myself

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

Content is automatic

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:35 AM

Using bam method after all.

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:36 AM

You need to start the srv in its folder I believe

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:36 AM

oh the good ol mapchecker

just rename it to dm1_custom and itll work (edited)

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:36 AM

I don't think that is the issue

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:36 AM

it said invalid standard map

in the log (edited)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:36 AM

I checked the folders, there are no maps

cd bam ./make_unix.sh cd .. ./bam/bam config ./bam/bam -f conf=release server ./build/x86_64/release/teeworlds_srv

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:37 AM

weird how can no map be invalid standard map ?xd

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:37 AM

Do I have to ./bam/bam -f conf=release content server

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:37 AM

nah dont think so

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:37 AM

No

Content is automatically built

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:37 AM

Not according to the guide

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:37 AM

Might be wrong then :)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:37 AM

content includes map, would you say that?

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:37 AM

I never specify targets

Yes it does

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:38 AM

Alright then, off to recreate docker image for the 10th time XD

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:38 AM

@ChillerDragon ik its weird that it says invalid map but I doubt he got a non standard dm1

Unless he mixed 0.6 and 0.7

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:38 AM

don't even have a dm1 map XD

Nope I didn't!

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:39 AM

Yeah that's what I thought:)

Gotta download maps separately since we use the automatic github archive :(

I really should edit the link from tw.com

Did we build a manual archive for 073 or was it 072?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:40 AM

I will just try with ./bam/bam -f conf=release content server to see if adding content will add the maps

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:40 AM

Oh right the maps might be in datasrc/maps :)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:40 AM

It's empty, I checked.

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:40 AM

i got this invalid map thing a bunch of times

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:41 AM

Ugh it's kinda our fault for linking to the github automated archive @MatiasMunk :/

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:41 AM

Not sure how well the code supports all the official versions

Sonix did a few updates as far as i know

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:41 AM

Easy fix is to just git clone

@ChillerDragon I don't think the maps changed since 071?

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 11:42 AM

me neither

Dune 16-Sep-19 11:42 AM

@MatiasMunk where did u get archive from

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 11:43 AM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/releases

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 12:05 PM

Switched away from bam worked, with bam the map files apparantly did not get included.

[2019-09-16 10:02:30][datafile]: loading done. datafile='maps/dm1.map' [2019-09-16 10:02:30][server]: server name is 'unnamed server' ... ... ... [2019-09-16 10:02:38][register]: no firewall/nat problems detected [2019-09-16 10:02:38][register]: server registered

Next question is, where is autoexec.cfg supposed to be located? And can there be a = between server config variables and the value? For example is only sv_port 8303 valid, or can sv_port = 8303 work? (edited)

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 12:16 PM

dont think = is supportet

"quotes" are tho

the exec can be located in ~./teeworlds/autoexec.cfg or in the current working directory or any path customized in storage.cfg or you can pass in a path to the config like ./teeworlds_srv -f /foo/bar/baz.cfg

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 12:18 PM

Now, this sucks. Seeing as this panel has the ability to override certain values through JSON. I normally am able to do something like this

{ "build/autoexec.cfg": { "parser": "cfg", "find": { "sv_port": "{{server.build.default.port}}" } } }

But this will add a = in-between the server config variable and the value.

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 12:19 PM

then just run a script over it that updates it?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 12:19 PM

Will try it out, see if it works, otherwise Teeworlds needs to support = or Pterodactyl needs to add a feature to make one able to not add =

What do you mean?

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 12:19 PM

remove all =

first occurent of line

with some sed magic for example

sed 's/=//' or something like that i dont know sed syntax of my head

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 12:21 PM

Never heard of sed.

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 12:26 PM

lol

maybe awk

jxsl13 16-Sep-19 01:02 PM

if any teeworlds server admins are in here, might take a look at this issue and leave a comment, https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2225

give admins the possibility to do some stealth action. · Issue #2...

Hiding, who they watch + hiding that they are admin.

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:07 PM

I agree, they should be able to.

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 01:11 PM

useless

@Dune what does PLAYERFLAG_ADMIN do?

Dune 16-Sep-19 01:13 PM

Flag someone as admin

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 01:25 PM

wow

What does it do

Highlight someone or shit like that

Dune 16-Sep-19 01:34 PM

Prevent from kickvoting for example

Not much integration atm

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:39 PM

Dune are you a developer?

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 01:42 PM

@jason54 wanna steal my ddnet7 and say its from you too? (edited)

Dune 16-Sep-19 01:43 PM

Yes

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:45 PM

Is it possible to add support for = in the server configuration?

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 01:45 PM

what would you need it for

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:46 PM

I'm making free server hosting and the software I use has = as a delimiter. Without it I probably can't add the feature to set up the Configuration Manager which ensures that any one person cannot change their own server port.

Well, maybe I can.

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 01:47 PM

ofc you can

teecloud has done it too

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:47 PM

There's one last thing I haven't tried yet.

Teecloud?

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 01:47 PM

https://de.teecloud.de (edited)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:47 PM

Are they using Pterodactyl?

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 01:47 PM

ah well

idk

ask @Mr_Anderson

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:48 PM

If they're not using Pterodactyl, then it's irrelevant.

They're probably using TCAdmin which is obsolete as a gameserver controlpanel, not to mention very insecure. (edited)

1

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 01:48 PM

Hi..

we developed our panel completely by ourself (edited)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:49 PM

Well then, doesn't really help me then

Btw, your panel is down XD

Oh relaunch, nvm.

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 01:49 PM

^^

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:50 PM

Is your service free?

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 01:50 PM

yes it is

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:50 PM

Cool, I'm making something similar to yours then!

How does your system work, does each server have their own container? Or are you just running it all on the same machine with no virtualization?

Perhaps through VPS?

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 01:52 PM

sorry, I dont give any internal infromation about how're serving stuff

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:52 PM

No problem

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 01:52 PM

everyone will need to find his own way

and I'm sure you will

Deanoooo64 16-Sep-19 01:53 PM

Joined the server.

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:54 PM

Yeah, sure. I had no intentions of moving away from my current path. Just curious if you were using virtualization at all, or if it's even needed if the user can't replace the server binary.

All good tho

Deanoooo64 16-Sep-19 01:54 PM

Hi guys!

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 01:55 PM

hi

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 01:58 PM

Joined the server.

hi

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 01:59 PM

Hi!

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 01:59 PM

guys pls help me

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 02:00 PM

hm?

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:02 PM

i compiling

teeword

and

Plant 16-Sep-19 02:02 PM

Joined the server.

Lyserioooooooooooooooooooooooooo 16-Sep-19 02:02 PM

Joined the server.

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:03 PM

eror

bam: error: 'other/icons/teeworlds_srv_cl.rc'

guys help me

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:05 PM

wait?

didnt you just write me in pm you compile ddnet?

do you compile ddnet or teeworlds

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:06 PM

teeworlds

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:07 PM

did you clone recursive?

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:07 PM

no

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:07 PM

try that

git clone --recursive https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds

https://primhosting.com/cart.php?gid=9

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:10 PM

I Dont Know

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:11 PM

@lEARTH do you compiled Teeworlds server or client?

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:11 PM

yra

yes

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:11 PM

Server or Client?

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:11 PM

server

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:12 PM

Okay, in just a minute, you can order a free server on my website, that handles all compilation for you. You can change code and when you start the server, it will first compile and then start server.

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:13 PM

ok

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:15 PM

Free Vanilla hosting is finally up, took a little longer than I expected, but now it works! You are free to make any code changes to the Teeworlds Server since Teeworlds codebase is included.

Dune 16-Sep-19 02:16 PM

@MatiasMunk you could simply replace "="with " " in your cfg files?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:16 PM

I managed to make it work without = at all, it worked perfectly in fact!

Dune 16-Sep-19 02:17 PM

Oh good job :)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:17 PM

Now on to Modded Teeworlds servers!

@lEARTH

Dune 16-Sep-19 02:17 PM

You like challenge :D

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:17 PM

I do!

If I write a clean nice text here, will you pin it?

@Dune

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:19 PM

i registered to your site

Dune 16-Sep-19 02:19 PM

About?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:19 PM

Uhm, let me just write it, then you can decide. I can delete again if needed.

Dune 16-Sep-19 02:19 PM

If it is documentation it would be best fit in github

(Teeworlds.com mirrors it)

If it is advertisement, even for a service as generous as yours, I'm afraid I can't do that

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:21 PM

What about this.

Oh advertisement.

Can I post still?

Have a look please.

'I've spent the last couple of days creating a custom Docker image and custom egg for the open-source gameserver hosting control panel 'Pterodactyl', that I use for my hosting services website. I did this because I wanted to create a painless way (for people who are having issues with compilation of a Teeworlds server) to set up a server that not is a binary release, but a source release with the ability to just START the server and have it compile before server startup, each time. If you are, or have always been interested in setting up a server but do not have the know-how, you may visit: https://primhosting.com/cart.php?gid=9 to claim your free server. Everything is automated, from checking out server files, to compilation, to starting the server, all you need to do is create an account on the website and order the $0.00 Teeworlds Server product. You will receive an email with a button to 'setup your account' for the gameserver hosting controlpanel shortly after your product has been activated. Furthermore (already mentioned, but still), on each startup of your Teeworlds gameserver, I've configured the gameserver controlpanel to compile the codebase. Yes, you can make your own changes to the server and compile it to make a custom Teeworlds Server, according to your needs. After you've ordered the gameserver, Teeworlds will compile itself the first time, then your server will launch! IP and Port for your Teeworlds Gameserver can be found under My Servers in the side menu, then under the Connection row in your server list. A working example of the gameserver hosting controlpanel below.

1

DarkOort 16-Sep-19 02:22 PM

Joined the server.

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:23 PM

what my password?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:24 PM

You will have received an email with a button to 'setup your account'

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:24 PM

ok

Dune 16-Sep-19 02:24 PM

@lEARTH still cant compile?

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:25 PM

why?

Dune 16-Sep-19 02:26 PM

An issue you may run into with mods is additional dependencies @MatiasMunk

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:27 PM

im running

default

mod

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:27 PM

I will create a custom docker image for each mod. For example for DDRace I will create a customer Teeworlds image with the tag :DDRace, that will then include those dependencies.

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:28 PM

bro

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:28 PM

Yes?

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:28 PM

i cant join

the

vps

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:28 PM

https://panel.primhosting.com/ You will have received an email telling you to 'setup your account'

Look for any emails from Primhosting Panel

You DM'ed me, good idea, let's take it there

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:29 PM

i dont see

password

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:30 PM

You don't receive a password. You will receive an email with big blue button to 'setup your account', then you set your own password.

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 02:30 PM

you can change my password

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:30 PM

DM

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:36 PM

i dont even find the register button xd

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:36 PM

Huh, just order the product.

It'll ask you to setup an account

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:36 PM

it only asks me to login

nothing else

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:36 PM

Proceed to checkout

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:36 PM

there is no checkout in the login screen

https://panel.primhosting.com/ redirects to https://panel.primhosting.com/auth/login

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:37 PM

That's the panel. You have to order the product first. https://primhosting.com/cart.php?gid=9

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:37 PM

ah ye

https://primhosting.com/cart.php?gid=9 taht worked

not very convient tho

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:37 PM

What's not convenient?

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:37 PM

shouldnt the root of the site accessible?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:37 PM

The root of the site?

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:37 PM

https://primhosting.com/

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:37 PM

The front end of our hosting services are located at https://primhosting.com/

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:38 PM

ah it was panel

where did i get this panel url from :c

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:38 PM

I posted it longer up

It's the link to the panel. The panel is where you control your server when you've ordered it.

You'll receive the panel link in your email too, once you've ordered the product.

think of it as a server controlpanel (edited)

ChillerDragon 16-Sep-19 02:39 PM

could you please ask for more private data on register?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:41 PM

Huh?

Your private data is securely stored with us. However you have nothing to be afraid of, since you quite frankly filled out very invalid information anyways.

I'll just take the liberty to change your servername from ChillerDragon HAXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx to ChillerDragon, since it's fucking up our panel layout

MrCosmo 16-Sep-19 02:55 PM

You say the data is stored securely. I can neither find a privacy policy nor any contact details for an owner or contact person. How should I know what happens to my data after registration? With an online shop for a free Teeworlds server, there is a lot of personal data required without even knowing what happens to it.

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 02:57 PM

The hosting service is new, both terms of service and privacy policy is being made, probably done by late today, or tomorrow. Furthermore, the entire website is receiving a complete overhaul within the next 10 days. (edited)

You may refrain from registering or using the service until those come by either late today or tomorrow.

MrCosmo 16-Sep-19 03:01 PM

I am no professional in this area but in my opinion running an online shop without complying with the GDPR guidelines is not legal in Europe.

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 03:03 PM

You have a certain amount of time to enlighten your privacy policy and terms of service from initiation.

Also, it won't be a problem unless there are people registered with real private data, no one has registered yet doing so.

I'm very confident that I'll have created our privacy policy and terms of service before anyone registers with real private data.

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 03:09 PM

There is no extra time after publishing a business to add an imprint later and you also offer non free products.

lEARTH 16-Sep-19 03:10 PM

guys help me

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 03:11 PM

The business is not published yet @Mr_Anderson.

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 03:12 PM

you have a published website, so it is (edited)

You advertised it here, too. xD

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 03:13 PM

No, since the website does not mention any business information. I would have to mention Danish CVR number, which I do not. Furthermore, payment gateway has not been setup yet, so you cannot order products that cost money yet.

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 03:14 PM

Then you should add a note on your website for that, that nobody can buy anything yet.

We're just giving you the advice so that no one pisses on your leg, you know what I mean?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 03:15 PM

Here you go. https://primhosting.com/pp.php Will receive an overhaul to look nicer in a few days.

Should do for now, since you hinted for it to be a priority.

I've added it to the footer, as well.

I do know what you mean

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 03:16 PM

Its not only about the privacy policy, also there are no information about the website holder etc. Things can get quite complicated if there are information missing. (edited)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 03:18 PM

Again, this was planned for tomorrow, just figured that I'd prioritize Privacy Policy, since someone asked for it to begin with.

I guess I'll just begin with it now, so that it might be done by tonight.

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 03:43 PM

https://primhosting.com/about.php

Temporary, since again, the website is receiving a complete overhaul. So sorry for the ugliness of it

Terms of Service up next.

jxsl13 16-Sep-19 04:01 PM

@rand() do you do micro controller programming Oo?

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 05:15 PM

wtf is this shit

primhosting, the reseller that will die automatically in few days, rip

eNJi 16-Sep-19 05:18 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 16-Sep-19 05:37 PM

See https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=123326#p123326

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 05:43 PM

not enough

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 16-Sep-19 07:09 PM

who know the pass in kobra 4 ?

dm me

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 07:11 PM

me

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 07:11 PM

@ReiTW, this is not just reseller :) Only our webhosting is reseller, and the only reason I offer webhosting is BECAUSE I HAVE IT, so might as well offer it. It will not automatically die out in a few days, since it's my passion to offer hosting services. I have a real life job, and a real life income, that allows me to host this indefinitely. If you research Endless Online just a bit, you might find out that the game has been dead for years, even the community is dying out, so tell me, why would I offer hosting for such a game? Because I've dedicated most of my life to it. Endless Online and Teeworlds are two communities that have sparked my interest for programming, specifically game programming and I am even programming my own game in C++. You might find it at https://arcanelands.net/. Project is steadily being worked on by me as the only programmer and another person who is the only graphics artist. You might find that my game is inspired heavily by the game Endless Online, since the game died. You might find it that I'm actually dedicated about the things I'm dedicated about. So please don't diss my service, when I'm offering something free to a community that I've been a part of my entire life, a community that has been a part of my childhood, and especially not when I'm actually dedicating much of my life to Teeworlds and Endless Online communities, and probably always will.

I could even put it as far as to say that: If I hypothetically speaking was hosting for such a cheap price, that the income would only JUST equal my expenses; then I wouldn't care, since I'm not in it for any money. That's how much I do it from the heart, rather than with the thought of making money.

Dune 16-Sep-19 07:20 PM

I agree, I think it's really cool that you try to provide this convenient service essentially for free, and I think we should be more thankful for that. We're a bit used to get everything for free nowadays and get ungrateful

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 07:21 PM

Thanks for the support @Dune !

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 08:20 PM

DDNet has been set up, you need to choose it as the Teeworlds Version when you order a product.

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 08:39 PM

I would like to put a mod improve for 0.7 ddrace MatiasMunk - Today at 8:31 PM DDRace is not working for 0.7? your does not have a lot of features MatiasMunk - Today at 8:37 PM I have it from https://ddnet.tw/ Is it not the latest?

What's up with that? He says the version I got from https://ddnet.tw/ is not the latest or that it doesn't have all features?

heinrich5991 16-Sep-19 08:42 PM

who said that?

ddnet from ddnet.tw is currently on teeworlds version 0.6

it does not work with teeworlds 0.7

there's porting effort from different authors I think

zelda. 16-Sep-19 08:44 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 16-Sep-19 08:49 PM

You might be mixing it up with my basic port

There is no 0.7 ddnet (yet)

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 08:59 PM

Oh, well. Will just use Jason's port then

https://github.com/Jason54/DDRace Think it's safe to use?

Jason54/DDRace

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Jason54/DDRace development by creating an account on GitHub.

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:19 PM

@MatiasMunk sry but I prefer to pay for services that I'm sure it'll never die, that's my choice

jason54 16-Sep-19 09:21 PM

@ReiTW it's free ......

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:22 PM

and?

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:23 PM

@ReiTW your choice, just be kind and don't diss my service, keep your thoughts for yourself, thanks.

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:24 PM

Well that's just true

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:24 PM

Either way, your loss. It's still a free service, you could always back up, if you're so "worried"

Have a great day.

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:25 PM

sure, still

how are you going to protect your server against people who doesn't like your server

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:25 PM

There's no still, you don't like my service, end of story.

Huh?

Protect how?

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:25 PM

Wow

seems like you're new in this part, teeworlds is a cool game full of ddos attacks

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:25 PM

Sorry, let me reformulate. Protect against what?

Oh didn't you see?

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:26 PM

see what

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:26 PM

We offer DDoS protection, and our systems automatically recognize attack patterns of DDoS attacks and mitigate the attacks instantly.

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:26 PM

because you think it's enough?

lmao

well, you'll see that, if it happens one day

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:27 PM

End of story.

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:27 PM

lmao

Dune 16-Sep-19 09:28 PM

@ReiTW hes offering a generous service, let him manage

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:28 PM

I just give my opinion and my choice about it

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:28 PM

Yes, fine, you did, but you keep at it, apparantly

Dune 16-Sep-19 09:30 PM

@MatiasMunk if you really need something more complete than my fork, probably best to look into snsnoop's work. The branch you linked is full of french stuff

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:49 PM

@MatiasMunk afterall, sorry bro but yeah got a better provider: http://mzunguhosting.ml/order.php?cartid=239

5

heinrich5991 16-Sep-19 09:49 PM

@ReiTW it's enough

jxsl13 16-Sep-19 09:51 PM

what is that hilarious website xD

Mr_Anderson 16-Sep-19 09:51 PM

xD

10/10 would buy

heinrich5991 16-Sep-19 09:52 PM

@ReiTW okay, this one was a joke, but please stop bothering him

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 09:56 PM

@Dune that branch, where is all the French stuff that you see?

ReiTW 16-Sep-19 09:56 PM

@Mr_Anderson lol lmao got an idea

Dune 16-Sep-19 09:58 PM

The jason branch @MatiasMunk

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 09:58 PM

@Dune there is

0.7 ddnet, in progress

Dune 16-Sep-19 10:00 PM

I'm advising on the basis of existing public branches

fokkonaut 16-Sep-19 10:01 PM

it is publuc

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 10:03 PM

@Dune I know u talked about that branch

But where in the branch do you see all the French stuff?

Dune 16-Sep-19 10:05 PM

I guess they're not on the repo

Anyway this is just mkrace renamed, go to the source

MatiasMunk 16-Sep-19 10:14 PM

Alrite thanks

jxsl13 16-Sep-19 11:20 PM

I would find it cool if servers responded in the language that the player's flag shows(german in switzerland or dutch in belgium for example), but making the whole server some language that not the whole playerbase speaks is kind of bad.

Deanoooo64 16-Sep-19 11:39 PM

Are there any members from the DDWar era here? Where we use to block for big amounts of points? And clans use to fight each other?

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 12:03 AM

What's the difference between mkrace, ddrace and ddnet anyway?

And what's SNSoop's iDDNet?

ChillerDragon 17-Sep-19 12:51 AM

Well as i already said ddnet is the official new maintainer of ddrace so it pretty much outdated ddrace. iDDNet is sns fork of ddnet but its 0.6 and he also updated mkrace to 0.7 based on dunes basic ddrace. @MatiasMunk

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 01:01 AM

So mkRace is the actual updated DDNet/DDRace?

Okay, seems like mkRace is the way to go if I want DDRace on 0.7

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 01:40 AM

DDRace for 0.7 has been added, along with Instagib. (edited)

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 01:41 AM

ReiTW 17-Sep-19 08:45 AM

mkRace is different than ddrace, you should keep the name

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 08:46 AM

How is it different?

I was under the impression that mkRace was just based on Dune's basic DDRace but updated to 0.7, which means that it's still DDRace, no?

Dune 17-Sep-19 09:16 AM

It's just people adding their own things that they like to the usual idea of what ddrace is. None of that is "official" so yeah. To me, DDRace is just race+freeze for example:)

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 09:29 AM

Oh, what does mkRace include beyond race+freeze?

Dune 17-Sep-19 09:36 AM

A ton of bloat from my perspective

but people like that

I don't know too much about it, ask the playera

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 09:40 AM

Okay, guess I'll rename it to mkRace and implement Simple DDRace as well. (edited)

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 02:13 PM

dude, you are missing out on some classical zCatch fun ;D

x)

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 02:22 PM

zCatch? I think I remember that. Do you want it serviced like the other mods?

Just tell me and I will implement it after work !

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 03:41 PM

it's hard to compile, but why not

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 03:47 PM

I really am quite competent with compiling various programs that I have nothing to do with. Also being a game programmer myself, I should manage ^^

I'll implement it as soon as I come home, expect just an hour, maximum two or so ^^

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 04:08 PM

I assume Catch64 is its new name? Couldn't find zCatch for 0.7 (edited)

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12810

[MOD] Catch64 - Colorcatch or Catch16 [0.7.3] (Page 1) — Modific...

[MOD] Catch64 - Colorcatch or Catch16 [0.7.3] (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Oh, I see that these are two very different mods. (Catch64 and zCatch) Do you happen to have zCatch for 0.7?

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 04:24 PM

no, that's assa's color catch

mine's only on github

https://github.com/jxsl13/zcatch

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618113119062982658/623197945164201998/unknown.png?width=841&height=473

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to jxsl13/zcatch development by creating an account on GitHub.

El BobLex 17-Sep-19 04:29 PM

@MatiasMunk mkRace adds /pause which is a must for DDRace (edited)

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 04:30 PM

I don't play ddrace, so I do not care :'c

El BobLex 17-Sep-19 04:31 PM

Well I was just letting you know

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 04:31 PM

I didn't ask xD

El BobLex 17-Sep-19 04:31 PM

My bad I @ the wrong guy

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 17-Sep-19 04:51 PM

hello , i have this when i launch teeworlds

what is VCRUNTIME ?

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 05:09 PM

install this: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145 (edited)

Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015

The Visual C++ Redistributable Packages install run-time components that are required to run C++ applications built using Visual Studio 2015.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 17-Sep-19 05:11 PM

what is it

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 05:12 PM

it's the VCRUNTIME140.dll

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 17-Sep-19 05:12 PM

ok nice (edited)

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 05:12 PM

usually, that should be shipped with teeworlds itself, dunno why that's missing

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 17-Sep-19 05:13 PM

which folder i download ? the x64 or x86 ?

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 05:13 PM

x64

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 17-Sep-19 05:13 PM

ok

and now ?

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 05:14 PM

try again

(if you installed it, teeworlds should now run)

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 17-Sep-19 05:14 PM

ok

not work ;-;

ReiTW 17-Sep-19 05:35 PM

@heinrich5991 you may mention that installing the x86 version solve sometimes the problem

idk why

but long time ago when I had to install those, x86 was fixing those errors

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 05:40 PM

eh

didn't know

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 ^

ReiTW 17-Sep-19 05:47 PM

@heinrich5991 could be that he's tryin' to run a x86 version

not a x64

dlls could be different

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 17-Sep-19 05:47 PM

@heinrich5991 help

Dune 17-Sep-19 06:38 PM

Well we don't have an installer

Don't see how we could ship?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 17-Sep-19 06:39 PM

no

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 06:48 PM

have you tried uninstalling and installing windows again?

(it's a joke)

Dune 17-Sep-19 06:55 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 sadid you install VS redistributable?

(X86)

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 17-Sep-19 07:04 PM

sadid...?

Dune 17-Sep-19 07:15 PM

Did

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:20 PM

@jxsl13 your zCatch is not for 0.7? @El BobLex thanks.

1

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:26 PM

different branch, @MatiasMunk

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:31 PM

Oh got it, thanks!

@jxsl13 does zCatch have a specific gamemode like Instagib has iCTF?

Or just dm or ctf?

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:37 PM

c++17 zCatch

gamemode and weapon mode

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:37 PM

gamemode zcatch ?

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:37 PM

there is an example config in the wiki

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:38 PM

Uhhh thanks

db is necessary?

Ah for ranking, sure.

No problem

Dune 17-Sep-19 07:41 PM

No mod has dm/ctf as gamemode

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:42 PM

db is optional.

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:44 PM

I'll just allow it

Ah, that's true Dune

@jxsl13 why make zcatch_srv compared to just make?

Mos 17-Sep-19 07:47 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:47 PM

one creates client + server, the other creates only the server

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:47 PM

-DCLIENT=OFF is not a thing in your source? (edited)

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:48 PM

not that I know.

ChillerDragon 17-Sep-19 07:48 PM

should be if based on vanilla

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:48 PM

is it defined in the cmake?

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:48 PM

Should be

ChillerDragon 17-Sep-19 07:48 PM

shpould be in CMakeLists.txt if im not mistaken

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:48 PM

It's in your readme too

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:48 PM

haven't touched the client, so dunno.

make zcatch_srv works fine for me.

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 07:50 PM

yup, should work

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:52 PM

cmake then hopefully ignores all of the client stuff and creates only the server when executing make?

like all the client stuff nit being in the makefile at all?

not

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 07:55 PM

if you do -DCLIENT=OFF, the client build is not configured

if you do make zcatch_srv, the client stuff will not be built

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:56 PM

Weird error

When i did Make zcatch_srv it says that make was for invalid target

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 07:56 PM

which project do you build?

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:56 PM

zcatch

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 07:56 PM

link?

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:56 PM

https://github.com/jxsl13/zcatch/tree/zCatch-0.7.x

https://cmake.org/download/

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to jxsl13/zcatch development by creating an account on GitHub.

cd build cmake -DCMAKE_CC_COMPILER=gcc-8.10 -DCLIENT=OFF .. make

(edited)

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 07:57 PM

author of zcatch changed the minimum required cmake version to 3.10

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:57 PM

My cmake is 3.5.0

You are running version 3.5.1 (edited)

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:58 PM

c++17

is the requirement.

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 07:59 PM

and cmake 3.10 apparently

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:59 PM

-DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS=-std=c++17

So that?

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 07:59 PM

which is a requirement cuz c++17 :D

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 07:59 PM

I'll try.

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 07:59 PM

you can do it in earlier versions as well, just not as conveniently I guess

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 08:00 PM

cmake seems to give a shit about cxx requirement flags.

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 08:00 PM

Not for me

Worked fine when I did it fo c++11 for ddnet

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 08:00 PM

if the compiler doesn't support it, you just get some errors and no priper cmake error

proper

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 08:01 PM

but yea, maybe try a new cmake version?

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 08:01 PM

It's version 3.5.0?

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 08:01 PM

3.10.0 is required :0

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 08:01 PM

It says minimum 3.10.0

CMake 3.10 or higher is required.

or well, or higher.

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 08:02 PM

5 < 10

xD

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 08:02 PM

OH!

Dam, my bad.

How do I apt-get install cmake specifically 3.10?

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 08:03 PM

Steve Jordan

Download

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 08:03 PM

dunno, stackoverflow if debian, ppa if ubuntu

told ya, nit soneasy x)

no

t

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 08:04 PM

It's alright, I'll just wget cmake latest version. Just figured you might know a repo that has cmake 3.10

No issue.

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 08:05 PM

I set it up like 4 months ago (on debian, was a pain in the ass) and now it works xD

microsoft is ooen sourcing their implementation of the c++ stdlib

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 08:56 PM

:/

@jxsl13

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 09:28 PM

Got pretty close, but it errored at 76% basically.

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 09:43 PM

maybe c++17 is not supported by your compiler?

jason54 17-Sep-19 09:49 PM

https://github.com/jxsl13/zcatch/tree/zCatch-0.7.x @MatiasMunk

https://github.com/nobody-mb/teeworlds-fng2-mod

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to jxsl13/zcatch development by creating an account on GitHub.

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 09:57 PM

that's the indication that your compiler doesn't know c++17

structured bindings fail

to be recognized

us ethe full path in the cmake command, like in the example in the readme

to the compiler

MatiasMunk 17-Sep-19 10:07 PM

Weird I did.

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 10:50 PM

cmake -DCMAKE_CC_COMPILER=gcc-8.10 -DCLIENT=OFF ..

gcc-8.10 full pat hto th ebinary?

heinrich5991 17-Sep-19 10:56 PM

CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER?

jxsl13 17-Sep-19 11:42 PM

YEAH

yeah*

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 08:20 AM

@jxsl13

Implemented your zCatch mod, and it works

ShootXen 18-Sep-19 09:10 AM

0.6 still not dead?

n000b 18-Sep-19 09:13 AM

@ShootXen why does it bother you?

ShootXen 18-Sep-19 10:02 AM

Because 0.6 back in 2012- ~15 was great

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 10:20 AM

cool

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 11:49 AM

Thanks @jxsl13 for the zCatch mod for 0.7.x

(edited)

n000b 18-Sep-19 11:52 AM

@ShootXen and is not good anymore?

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 12:19 PM

I hope it builds from the source, cuz I sometimes fix bugs and stuff.

np.

thanks to all the people before me for making zCatch

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 12:22 PM

It builds from source alright, if you make any breaking changes, let me know since I clone directly from your git bro

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 12:34 PM

I doubt there will be any breaking changes, except for stuff that might break the database backwards compatibility.

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 12:53 PM

No matter, people will just have to delete their database so that the server can recreate it then. (edited)

I want you to go and see some specific warnings during compilation process. Go to https://panel.primhosting.com/ and login with jsxl13 (I DM'ed you password), then go to my servers and select the zCatch server (Only one there is) then press Console in the menu on the left side and press start to start the server, look through the startup and compilation process. (edited)

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 01:00 PM

library warning do not matter xD as they are not my warnings

like sqlite warnings or destructor not being declared as virtual in the redis library

get my nickname right :'c

server status says starting, but the container already runs.

you could cleanup all of the compilers shit that's being installed in the container after the tw server has been properly built, in order to reduce the storage needed.

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 01:06 PM

jsxl13?

nickname wrong?

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 01:06 PM

yes

look again >:O

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 01:07 PM

ohhhhh

jxsl13

LOL

Yeah, I need to do some configuring to optimize the container. The starting thing will change to Online after some hours XD But yeah I should fix. What do you mean cleanup all of the compiler shit that's being installed ? (edited)

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 01:08 PM

you could check for "server registered"

in the console output

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 01:09 PM

Yup

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 01:09 PM

also entering console commands doesn't do anything, could be "just" disabled

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 01:09 PM

^C kills the server (edited)

Or rather, sends shutdown signal

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 01:10 PM

just seeing the console is enough and there is a stop button

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 01:10 PM

Not my software

XD

Pterodactyl has it by default.

I'm not up for making any serious changes to the daemon or panel itself to modify the console, other than template stuff and creating and optimizing the custom server 'eggs' (What they call them) to set the server to Online when it sees server registered in the console. (edited)

I just want to add a few more server modifications to the panel before I fix the problem where it hangs the status at Starting server

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 01:13 PM

It's a rather interesting framework.

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 01:14 PM

Yeah it is, the best and newest tech out there so far.

Anyway, if a server or in this case teeworlds server mod actually accepts console input, that is what Command is for :)

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 01:15 PM

I know, like minecraft servers accept commands.

gone

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 01:27 PM

Yup. Alright, same, just arrived at work. (edited)

ShootXen 18-Sep-19 01:40 PM

@n000b no I hate 0.6 and thos players

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:13 PM

Joined the server.

0.7 sucks

2

ChillerDragon 18-Sep-19 05:16 PM

omg he is everywhere

rat invading 0.7

@ᶰ°Konͧsti any improvements/suggestions for 0.7? (edited)

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 18-Sep-19 05:33 PM

@Neox deblock me i need to dm u

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:37 PM

@ChillerDragon yes, making it 0.6 again

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 05:38 PM

Why does 0.7 suck?

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:38 PM

its not 0.6

I hate changes

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 05:38 PM

I just want to know specifically why?

Ah okay.

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:38 PM

Less bugs

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 05:38 PM

Lol

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:38 PM

I hate less bugs

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 05:38 PM

Want a free server lad?

I support 0.6 too

Tell me any mods you'd like to see for my free server hosting services. (edited)

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:39 PM

i play only DDRace and noby fng

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 05:39 PM

I've already implemented DDRace for 0.6, or rather DDNet. Noby fng? What's that? I'll implement it as fast as I can for 0.6. (edited)

You can already make your free DDRace server for 0.6 here https://primhosting.com/cart.php?gid=9

Check it out, let me know what you think.

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:54 PM

noby fng is fng2+

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 05:55 PM

nobody-mb/teeworlds-fng2-mod

FNG mod for teeworlds, that advances the original FNG idea by golden spikes and other features - nobody-mb/teeworlds-fng2-mod

Is this the one?

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:56 PM

actually not because noby fng isnt open source

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 05:56 PM

Huh?

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:56 PM

because the high leveled bot detection

making it OS would make it useless

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 05:57 PM

That's true, so where are the binaries then?

Binaries will work too, I just like to add the possibility for clients to compile the server.

ᶰ°Konͧsti 18-Sep-19 05:58 PM

HMM does that mean u get the mod without access to the code

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 06:01 PM

Yes that means I get the binary form of the mod.

Binary is the compiled code.

Compiled code = Binary = executable format.

= No code format.

Just the server files that are already compiled for Ubuntu linux, with no source code.

ChillerDragon 18-Sep-19 06:30 PM

i dont think onbgy does binary releases

1

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 06:50 PM

So he didn't release fng at all? (edited)

ChillerDragon 18-Sep-19 06:52 PM

fng is rlsd even onbgy had his version open source at some point but the latest isnt relased anywhere as far as i know

since it has rankings free slots and active players there is no need for additional fng servers anyways

MatiasMunk 18-Sep-19 07:07 PM

Alright, no need to implement it then, if there are enough fng servers

ReiTW 18-Sep-19 08:01 PM

any other fng srv than noby's one = useless

2 popular lmao

jxsl13 18-Sep-19 08:33 PM

hm, fng

fucking noob game :D

ReiTW 18-Sep-19 08:47 PM

u

@noby :v)

shore 18-Sep-19 11:35 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 19-Sep-19 12:29 AM

Joined the server.

noby 19-Sep-19 12:54 AM

[10:55 AM] MatiasMunk: Is this the one? thats 1 year old

after which point i made it closed-src and rewrote basically everything

@jxsl13 u

ᶰ°Konͧsti 19-Sep-19 05:39 AM

noby is the biggest troll

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 09:35 AM

no u onbgy.

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:24 PM

@jason54 nice how you took my ddnet port and renamed it to ddrace xd why do you always do such stuff (in this case its not too bad, but still, it shows your pattern and how bad you are)

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 03:26 PM

change your license to gpl3

or closed source, what's sad

jason54 19-Sep-19 03:31 PM

where I rename ddnet is not ddrace?

ChillerDragon 19-Sep-19 03:32 PM

?

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:42 PM

?

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 03:51 PM

Fokkonaut, where did he rename DDNet to DDRace?

He renamed mkRace to DDRace, but I made a Pull Request to change it back to mkRace and now it's called mkRace again.

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:52 PM

the fuck?

why are you disabled

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 03:52 PM

Just asking, no reason to be offensive.

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:52 PM

he has his DDRace servers running

and they are my ddnet port

Dune 19-Sep-19 03:52 PM

be respectful

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 03:52 PM

I didn't know.

Relax bro

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:52 PM

check /credits

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 03:53 PM

I didn't play on his servers

Relax ffs.

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:53 PM

sorry, but your statement was just false

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 03:53 PM

I was just asking

no I wasn't stating anything

I was ASKING

where ...... ? (edited)

Clearly a question

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 03:53 PM

change license to GPLv3 or make your source closed if you don't want it to be messed with.

at least messed with closed "sourcely"

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:54 PM

wtf

you all

it is fully ok to take the ported ddnet

and its also ok to rename iut

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 03:54 PM

MIT license

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 03:54 PM

Nobody ever said that lmao

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 03:54 PM

allows that, if I'm not mistaken

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:54 PM

vergrabt euch ihr nichtsnütze xd

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 03:55 PM

sad stuff, make it closed source or add a paragraph to your license not to change the gamemode or whatever

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:55 PM

sad stuff you are to retarded to read

sorry

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 03:56 PM

np

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 03:56 PM

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 03:56 PM

what's not ok, then?

added his nickname again?

Dune 19-Sep-19 03:56 PM

Be respectful, you were warned

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 03:57 PM

I'm too lazy to read, btw.

sexy forum spam

btw

anyone wanna loose weight?

teeworlds.com/forum

xD

and another forum spam post

gotta be fast

ha, and gone

Dune 19-Sep-19 03:59 PM

use the report function

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 03:59 PM

I use what's most likely to work and this seemed to work?

Dune 19-Sep-19 03:59 PM

use what creates the least noise

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 04:00 PM

wanted to distract from this awkwardness

with some fun stuff

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 04:00 PM

Joined the server.

hi

xd

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 04:01 PM

no message of you leaving, but a message of you joining.. weird

Dune 19-Sep-19 04:02 PM

discord kick messages are silent

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 04:02 PM

IRC > discord.

hm hm

Dune 19-Sep-19 04:08 PM

Learning a lot from https://medium.com/leaningtech/porting-a-c-multiplayer-game-to-the-web-with-cheerp-webrtc-and-firebase-29fbbc62c5ca

Porting a C++ multiplayer game to the Web with Cheerp, WebRTC and ...

An overview on WebRTC and a detailed description of the implementation of a C++ socket library for the browser on top of it

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ChillerDragon 19-Sep-19 04:19 PM

Cool thanks for share @Dune i am always suprised when i see names i dont know doing stuff with tw. The project reminds me of the web ddnet client by east https://github.com/east/tw-webgl

east/tw-webgl

teeworlds webgl. Contribute to east/tw-webgl development by creating an account on GitHub.

jxsl13 19-Sep-19 04:25 PM

east (tw-)ded :'c (edited)

Joyce 19-Sep-19 05:21 PM

Joined the server.

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 07:36 PM

Anyway, as far as I can tell @fokkonaut https://github.com/Jason54/ddnet7/blob/master/src/game/server/gamemodes/ddrace.cpp The gametype from the branch he forked from yours is still DDraceNetwork lmao

Jason54/ddnet7

DDraceNetwork server modification for Teeworlds 0.7, ported by fokkonaut - Jason54/ddnet7

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 07:37 PM

do i care about it

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 07:45 PM

'parantly u did.

fokkonaut 19-Sep-19 07:45 PM

no

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 07:49 PM

Deleted User 19-Sep-19 08:37 PM

is lolinet closed?

jason54 19-Sep-19 08:40 PM

Yes

mind 19-Sep-19 08:56 PM

Joined the server.

MatiasMunk 19-Sep-19 10:12 PM

lolinet?

Dune 19-Sep-19 10:15 PM

TeeSlayer's network of high quality servers

ChillerDragon 19-Sep-19 10:28 PM

Sounds rude @Dune xd

jason54 19-Sep-19 11:31 PM

13000 maps soon for teeworlds 0.7

Dune 19-Sep-19 11:44 PM

Cool! From heinrich5991.de?

jason54 19-Sep-19 11:49 PM

yes but I have to test them to see what are playable I will not put map not finished or broken

Deleted User 20-Sep-19 01:18 AM

Joined the server.

MatiasMunk 20-Sep-19 10:07 AM

Is it just me, or does sv_min_grenade_damage variable not work in Catch64? https://github.com/AssassinTee/catch64

MatiasMunk 20-Sep-19 10:50 AM

@Dune can you pm LordSK to accept my pull request for his Zomb server mod, he forgot to add the gamemode to CMakeList on that mod too, I made a PR.

Dune 20-Sep-19 10:52 AM

You can ping @LordSk directly

I'm sure he will see your PR very soon anyway

MatiasMunk 20-Sep-19 11:05 AM

Oh I tried to just before, he didn't seem to pop up. Must have written it wrong, thanks.

@LordSk accept my PR !!!!

LordSk 20-Sep-19 11:14 AM

@MatiasMunk I don't see any PR?

Dune 20-Sep-19 11:28 AM

@LordSk probably just cherry-pick cb1e390c8cec9a90ebf5250ff2332fab263db67e: https://github.com/MatiasMunk/teeworlds/commit/cb1e390c8cec9a90ebf5250ff2332fab263db67e

MatiasMunk 20-Sep-19 11:30 AM

Oh did I forget to make the pull request?

Ok made it

Wait uhh ohh

I only made 1 commits (2 lines added), Idk why it wants to merge 121 commits now. (edited)

Dune 20-Sep-19 11:35 AM

You're probably pulling the wrong branch

MatiasMunk 20-Sep-19 11:38 AM

Okay fixed, I deleted my fork and just remade it with the same changes to CMakeList and created PR.

Yeah I saw that I wanted to do PR into regular Teeworlds branch XD

Ignore that

LordSk 20-Sep-19 11:39 AM

Merged, thanks.

MatiasMunk 20-Sep-19 11:42 AM

Np

Taz 20-Sep-19 02:54 PM

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Note 20-Sep-19 08:22 PM

Joined the server.

Hanz 20-Sep-19 08:44 PM

Joined the server.

poko 20-Sep-19 10:24 PM

Hello everyone

I havent played TW in a while and wanted to play now but my cursor is moving down by itself

Am I the only experiencing that or is it a known bug?

Iman 20-Sep-19 10:28 PM

ur controller

unplug it

then close tw

and launch tw again

poko 20-Sep-19 10:29 PM

Yeah

that worked, thank you

Dune 20-Sep-19 10:31 PM

Yeah, sorry, defaults are fixed in next version

poko 20-Sep-19 10:35 PM

no worries

witreck 20-Sep-19 10:45 PM

dont you guys love it when a corrupt admin bans you from a server for doing absolutely nothing

t b h

Dune 20-Sep-19 10:56 PM

no obnoxious pics pls

Dune 20-Sep-19 11:07 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2217/files#diff-b823dfdaeaa815f00cea7ad708f4053aR71 should disable joystick by default

witreck 20-Sep-19 11:21 PM

a guy with a double chin looking at a camera is obnoxious...?

ok

Dune 20-Sep-19 11:22 PM

just trying to keep the floodgate of memes shut, might have been an overreaction, apologies

jxsl13 20-Sep-19 11:48 PM

I'd host my own server

poko 21-Sep-19 12:04 AM

jxsl13 whats ballin my dude

RemiNex144 21-Sep-19 02:41 AM

Joined the server.

hay alguien que hable español

Iman 21-Sep-19 09:20 AM

hablo ingles por favor. english only

jxsl13 21-Sep-19 10:32 AM

Neon @poko ?

isn't it hable or habla as an imperative form?

poko 21-Sep-19 10:55 AM

indeed it is i my friend

Iman 21-Sep-19 11:11 AM

i dunno i don't rlly speak spanish

jxsl13 21-Sep-19 12:10 PM

hey dude :D

heroiamarelo 21-Sep-19 01:24 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 21-Sep-19 01:27 PM

ohey @heroiamarelo

campfire but spooky 21-Sep-19 01:43 PM

ok

so people are talking about clients

and im confused t b h

Dune 21-Sep-19 01:47 PM

@campfire but spooky you mean, custom clients?

jxsl13 21-Sep-19 01:53 PM

teeworlds has a lot of clients. curently the main clients are either for teeworlds 0.6.x and teeworlds 0.7.x

the vanilla clients are the official clients that you can download from steam or teeworlds.com (0.6 or 0.7 clients)

and there are a lot of modified clients, lots for 0.6 and maybe one or two for 0.7?

ChillerDragon 21-Sep-19 03:30 PM

o.O @heroiamarelo

jxsl13 21-Sep-19 03:57 PM

I need a buttnaked tee skin

(edited)

RemiNex144 21-Sep-19 03:57 PM

I play with friends Teeworlds but we only 3

:(

Dune 21-Sep-19 04:10 PM

get more friends or join a more active server?

SlyniVlayte 21-Sep-19 10:53 PM

Joined the server.

Maxime_Slowinski 21-Sep-19 10:57 PM

Joined the server.

witreck 21-Sep-19 11:39 PM

someone put there corrupt admins on a leash

this is another countless time I got banned by an admin because he just wants to

jxsl13 22-Sep-19 12:30 AM

welcome to life.

Deleted User 22-Sep-19 01:47 AM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 22-Sep-19 10:51 AM

can help me to open a server ?

i open, and the rcon not work

Dune 22-Sep-19 10:54 AM

Is it on your own PC?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 22-Sep-19 10:56 AM

no

i open a server in 0.6

and it say

chose 'master3.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats

what i need to do

can help

Dune 22-Sep-19 11:01 AM

That's normal

If you entered your password in a cfg file, it will be that one. Otherwise, the password will be shown in the console log, at the beginning

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 22-Sep-19 11:28 AM

ok

and what i need to do

the server don't accept the rcon

Dune 22-Sep-19 11:35 AM

Is the rcon password shown in the console log at the beginning

If not, check your .cfg

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 22-Sep-19 11:51 AM

ok

can't you open a server and gimme the pass ?

jxsl13 22-Sep-19 12:13 PM

The answer to that last question is a clear no. To run a server it either costs electricity or you pay for a rented server. Didn't MathiasMunk offer free servers? (edited)

Dune 22-Sep-19 12:19 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 no, but you apparently have a server running and figuring out the rcon shouldn't be hard at all

Can you check your server console log & answer the question?

MatiasMunk 22-Sep-19 01:38 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 https://primhosting.com/cart.php?gid=9

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 22-Sep-19 01:40 PM

what is it

MatiasMunk 22-Sep-19 01:41 PM

A place where you can order a free Teeworlds server?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 22-Sep-19 01:41 PM

oh thx

❤

<3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ <3<3 ❤ ❤

MatiasMunk 22-Sep-19 02:04 PM

Np, can't see you made a Teeworlds server yet though. Having troubles figuring it out? All you need to do is select the desired Teeworlds Server version, either 0.6 or 0.7, order the product, register account and checkout for free.

vroom 2 22-Sep-19 04:08 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 23-Sep-19 12:08 AM

Joined the server.

oko 23-Sep-19 08:47 AM

Joined the server.

Bender 23-Sep-19 10:17 AM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 23-Sep-19 12:35 PM

ok

oko 23-Sep-19 12:39 PM

Hey, Matias! Saw the forum post and just wanted to thank you for what's you're doing around here :)

MatiasMunk 23-Sep-19 02:17 PM

Thank you Oko, love supporting Teeworlds :) So far we only have servers based in Finland/, but I'm working on getting a variety of locations

oko 23-Sep-19 02:19 PM

Haven't had the time to start playing teeworlds again, but I guess i'll start a US server for a while, since I dont see many for 0.7 anymore

my homelab is hungry :)

oko 23-Sep-19 02:40 PM

there we go, it's up at server.oko.moe :)

now, its 6 AM, I need some rest. Seeya!

jxsl13 23-Sep-19 04:07 PM

nice, it's great seeing US servers on 0.7, as this might encourage more people from those coutries around there to play teeworlds more :D?

gigabyte 23-Sep-19 04:24 PM

Guys add on editor please later enable automap on live, disable function

jxsl13 23-Sep-19 05:14 PM

ctrl + shift + e opens the editor. LordSk was working on a cool map editor enhancement, that might or might not be released in the next update. "enable automap on live, disable function" that I do no understand what exactly you mean.

gigabyte 23-Sep-19 05:36 PM

I set live automap for grass_main, how disable?

Only reload map?

jxsl13 23-Sep-19 05:40 PM

I guess you nees to reload your saved map or manually change it back or change it back with another auto map tile layer.

Have not used the editor in many years, so I don't know much about it either.

Dune 23-Sep-19 07:41 PM

@gigabyte no such thing as "live automap" afaik

gigabyte 23-Sep-19 07:57 PM

@Dune What this? I see on editor how press automap type <full/live>

Dune 23-Sep-19 07:58 PM

Got a screenshot?

Someone might have implemented it and I forgot:P

If so you might have found a bug

Deleted User 24-Sep-19 01:04 AM

Joined the server.

Fudgy 24-Sep-19 04:44 AM

I implemented that Dune lol

earlier this year

just choose Full then press escape

Dune 24-Sep-19 08:28 AM

Oh :D

So "how disable", was @gigabyte asking

gigabyte 24-Sep-19 09:27 AM

Full replace, at the edges of the map

gigabyte 24-Sep-19 09:57 AM

Well, I’ll add for myself, but I wrote what I personally needed in the development of the map, for a big map having borders and carved tilesets, use "full" is not suitable

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 24-Sep-19 11:57 AM

gigabyte 24-Sep-19 04:53 PM

Works, sry guys i misunderstood

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 24-Sep-19 06:58 PM

what is it

ChillerDragon 24-Sep-19 07:00 PM

A nice map

Check your console it probably tells you failed to load graphics and where it expected them to be

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 24-Sep-19 07:01 PM

why my hammer is ... wtf

where i set it ?

where it should be

Dune 24-Sep-19 07:58 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 looks like you moved your game without moving the data folder

oko 24-Sep-19 08:37 PM

@axiom hi :)

campfire but spooky 25-Sep-19 02:39 AM

yo

whats a custom client, my friend keeps on bugging me to get one

oko 25-Sep-19 02:46 AM

@campfire but spooky adds some client side features to the game

I use dune's gamer client B)

Skayland 25-Sep-19 03:23 AM

Where can i get dune's client?

oko 25-Sep-19 03:32 AM

@Skayland https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12622

[CLIENT][0.7] Teeworlds Gamer (Page 1) — Modifications — Teewo...

[CLIENT][0.7] Teeworlds Gamer (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 11:55 AM

@campfire but spooky if you want ddrace Features I can recommend my client :) https://zillywoods.github.io/ZillyWoods-web/

jxsl13 25-Sep-19 01:58 PM

introduced zooz to 0.7 already >:O I hope it's only available on ddrace and only in spec :'c

Dune 25-Sep-19 02:13 PM

Spectator zoom is in almost every modified client nowadays

Some do it very well by extrapolating quads or something

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 02:36 PM

@jxsl13 ofc its spec and race only

And yes background doesnt get messed up on zooz in ZillyWoods

jxsl13 25-Sep-19 02:45 PM

Sounds rather Zilly :o I hopy it's nit that easy to create a zooz client with it like with ddnet :c.

Trafalgar Law 25-Sep-19 03:46 PM

Anyone know how to add the greyfox skin in 0.7 :X?

I want this skin rly

Dune 25-Sep-19 03:59 PM

Link?

Maybe @Zatline is already on it even

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 04:49 PM

@jxsl13 wdym create a zoom client with it? Unless you touch the source code you are not able to abuse the zoom same goes for ddnet too.

@Trafalgar Law I am planning to port and add this skin to my client after the new official skins are out. It is a veeery popular skin it might become a new official skin if the community wants it.

Trafalgar Law 25-Sep-19 04:51 PM

thats sounds good, best skin

coany 25-Sep-19 05:07 PM

cool client. Keep it up! @ChillerDragon

jxsl13 25-Sep-19 05:37 PM

@ChillerDragon in ddnet you could comment like 5 - 10 lines out in order to get a working zoom client. I hope your approach is not that easy x). (anyway dyn cam sucks)

booh dyn cam >:O

@ChillerDragon ZillyWoods macOS download link doesn't work

It's a cool name btw

campfire but spooky 25-Sep-19 06:08 PM

so with the client

do i just download it

any files i have to move?

or

Dune 25-Sep-19 06:09 PM

Usually you just have to download a client modification and unpack it anywhere

If it's well written it should even use a different .cfg

coany 25-Sep-19 06:43 PM

It doesn't. But that's good imo.

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 06:43 PM

No files have to be moved @campfire but spooky it currently uses same config as vanilla but its own downloaded maps and auto demos folder which is automatically created tho

@jxsl13 v0001 had a mac build which is still not running on macs without the dependencys installed so i am planning a proper mac build for v0002 but i have to find time and spin up some test vms and so on. So coming soon (tm)

coany 25-Sep-19 07:36 PM

Does somebody know why the game.png is so differently used by vanilla and ddnet client. If I use the same custom png on both clients it looks like an entirely different image. Is there a way to fix this in your client @ChillerDragon ?

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:37 PM

???

no idea what you mean

should be the same

could you post some screens @coany

coany 25-Sep-19 07:37 PM

yes hold on

@ChillerDragon.* https://imgur.com/a/UQre8lD

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:43 PM

Wait so you talk about the gametiles not game.png

vanilla does not even have a feature to show these

coany 25-Sep-19 07:44 PM

I'm not exactly sure what's the issue here. But u can see the same game.png looks very much different. 0.7 is off center by quiet a bit.

im not talking about entities xd

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:44 PM

I have no clue what you are talking about xd

looks like a 0.6 screenshot with show gametiles on to me (edited)

coany 25-Sep-19 07:44 PM

click the imgur link bro

XD

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:45 PM

ahxd

Ah the gun pos

ye thats a thing xd

Yea i reported that a while ago https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490150878934990850/590566983909507094/Unbenannt.PNG

coany 25-Sep-19 07:47 PM

so the ddnet devs just rewrote a basic thing like gun position? seems odd

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:48 PM

i have no clue what happend exactly i think 0.6.4 or something like that changed it

it used to be off then it got fixed and then off again idk

in ddnet you have to abilitiy to switch between both pos i can add that to ZillyWoods again maybe

coany 25-Sep-19 07:49 PM

Would be amazing.

Actually a switch isn't even necessary. Just a change to the 0.6 format.

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:50 PM

I really wonder why it got changed back to the old format in 0.7

coany 25-Sep-19 07:51 PM

maybe a fuck you to the 0.6 developers :p

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:51 PM

maybe the fix from 0.6.3/4 or got lost because 0.7 dev started 8 years ago idk how things actaully were uodated

I think ill make an issue sounds issue worth imo

coany 25-Sep-19 07:52 PM

awesome, looking forward to it. Could be as easy as changing a x and a y coordinate. xd

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:54 PM

What os did u try the ZillyWoods client on? @coany

coany 25-Sep-19 07:54 PM

win64

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:54 PM

any issues? Graphics not loaded etc?

coany 25-Sep-19 07:54 PM

no not yet

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:54 PM

cool

I think i fucked up linux and macOS tho xd

win32 too probably xd

coany 25-Sep-19 07:55 PM

and a 60+ fps when completely zoomed out. What's up with that

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:55 PM

too many fps?

coany 25-Sep-19 07:55 PM

XD

no

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:55 PM

ill fix in update

coany 25-Sep-19 07:55 PM

It's just that I get like 2fps on ddnet when zooming out entirely (edited)

Trafalgar Law 25-Sep-19 07:56 PM

@ChillerDragon dont forget Greyfox

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:56 PM

weird ddnet zooz should actually be more effective

and what is entirely lol?

i dont think i have a max xd

coany 25-Sep-19 07:57 PM

entirely as in: I can see the whole map

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:57 PM

depends on map xd

sure you have 60fps on dm1

coany 25-Sep-19 07:58 PM

mhm maybe. Havn't done intensive testing yet :p

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 07:58 PM

but hfgl on BlmapChill or even Back In Time 2

my zooz has funny graphics glitch on a certain distance xd

tile get biiiig

coany 25-Sep-19 08:01 PM

what a non-issue. Nobody will ever run into this bug naturally

ChillerDragon 25-Sep-19 08:40 PM

xd

birdd 25-Sep-19 09:20 PM

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hello hello

Deleted User 25-Sep-19 09:40 PM

LOL BIG TILES??

Cpt.UselesS 25-Sep-19 09:42 PM

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DustoBercz 25-Sep-19 10:37 PM

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campfire but spooky 26-Sep-19 04:54 AM

yo

whats happening in trafalgars server rn

weird shit

oko 26-Sep-19 04:54 AM

lol

Trafalgar Law 26-Sep-19 06:53 AM

Hm anyone faked me, i m no racist

jxsl13 26-Sep-19 10:35 AM

the ddrace server goes nuts whenever the admins leave. (edited)

Iman 26-Sep-19 05:25 PM

ye

ddrace serv with too much ppl always go wrong when admin leave on 0.7

for multimap_less (edited)

The Weeb 26-Sep-19 07:40 PM

Joined the server.

Guys

someone on teeworlds offended me

MatiasMunk 26-Sep-19 07:41 PM

Wow

How could they.

The Weeb 26-Sep-19 07:41 PM

but left game

and i forgot his name

Reason:

#Racism

oko 26-Sep-19 08:11 PM

we're gonna have to take some drastic measures here

someone? being an asshole? on a video game? How can we be so sure?

DEXi 26-Sep-19 08:46 PM

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Deleted User 26-Sep-19 09:57 PM

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Deleted User 26-Sep-19 10:09 PM

if someone is interested in the project MmoTee and who wants to invest their ideas and suggestions in its development My goal is to make the most flexible and customizable server without restarts Soon it is planned to launch 3 stages of the test (Stress, Alpha, Open) https://discord.gg/yugwwn5

jxsl13 26-Sep-19 10:53 PM

closed source sucks :'c

Iman 26-Sep-19 11:20 PM

do somebody know a guy called teed

?

Deleted User 26-Sep-19 11:28 PM

@jxsl13 Why do you need the source code?

oko 26-Sep-19 11:32 PM

@Deleted User would you want to run a program without confirming its relative safety?

Deleted User 26-Sep-19 11:38 PM

@oko You think i hacked server and area 51. Its full supports vanilla clients. I only continue Azataz rAzataz MmoTee (edited)

campfire but spooky 27-Sep-19 12:03 AM

yo

can someone ban this kid

lmao

Deleted User 27-Sep-19 02:19 AM

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lEARTH 27-Sep-19 08:36 AM

hi

guys pls help me

oko 27-Sep-19 08:36 AM

@lEARTH hi, what's wrong :)

lEARTH 27-Sep-19 08:36 AM

@oko im compiling teeworld and eror

oko 27-Sep-19 08:37 AM

which method?

lEARTH 27-Sep-19 08:37 AM

bam: error: a build step failed

bam method

MatiasMunk 27-Sep-19 08:58 AM

How to post image on the forums?

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=123324 I was wondering if I could post GIF at the bottom of the first post, how do I do that? [img][/img] does not work.

Dune 27-Sep-19 11:26 AM

@lEARTH this is just the line that says there is an error. Please tell us what the errror above is

@MatiasMunk [img] is the right way. You can post gifs just fine

MatiasMunk 27-Sep-19 11:29 AM

Ah works, just did it wrong before :)'

jxsl13 27-Sep-19 11:55 AM

@Deleted User learning interesting stuff maybe :D

Dune 27-Sep-19 12:08 PM

@oko you are not running any closed-source code by joining a closed-source server with a vanilla client tho

ChillerDragon 27-Sep-19 12:21 PM

@campfire but spooky you probably have to contact the server owner. This is mostly not the perfekt discord for ingame administration. BTW there is no ban needed. It looks like simple chat insults just go to esc -> players -> mute

campfire but spooky 27-Sep-19 12:40 PM

bet

viColino 27-Sep-19 07:05 PM

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кψẓμк 27-Sep-19 07:49 PM

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jxsl13 27-Sep-19 11:05 PM

forum spam

ChillerDragon 28-Sep-19 01:40 AM

who is even forum admin?

is forum even used? im there max once a year for a few mins

Deleted User 28-Sep-19 01:47 AM

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Dune 28-Sep-19 06:16 AM

It's a good place to centralize information and resources about mods, etc.

fokkonaut 28-Sep-19 12:14 PM

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jxsl13 28-Sep-19 02:29 PM

Discourse :'(

Dune 28-Sep-19 03:58 PM

If someone had the skills, time and dedication for that, we would happily port :)

Gyuszy 28-Sep-19 04:33 PM

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ChillerDragon 28-Sep-19 05:36 PM

port what?

ah forum software

i really like the current look of tw forum

Dune 28-Sep-19 05:42 PM

Yeah but punbb is a bit outdated now :)

Deleted User 28-Sep-19 06:42 PM

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heinrich5991 28-Sep-19 06:46 PM

I really like how fast the teeworlds website loads

that would be lost on discourse

I think I set up a test discourse instance once

the mod tools are definitely better there

(also, discourse doesn't really work with JS disabled IIRC)

jxsl13 28-Sep-19 07:20 PM

discourse is more dynamic and you have got a better user experience, especially with highly frequented topics. Also it allows users to see, when someone is currently replying to your topic. in contrast to punBB I think that it is and will be alive for a long time, as a lot of companies use it as their support software. The composition of topics is way better, as you can see the preview. This would not be possible without javascript. I don't feel like discourse is far slower than a native punBB site, other than the javascript load times?

heinrich5991 28-Sep-19 07:26 PM

oh and it uses lots of ram on the client (and server) and hijacks scrolling and search behavior

https://try.discourse.org/ load: 1.6s finished: 3.53s

Demo

Demonstration sandbox for Discourse

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/ load: 1.3s finish: 1.4s

Teeworlds Forum

Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Axaris 28-Sep-19 07:39 PM

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redix 28-Sep-19 08:12 PM

what about flarum? probably not as heavy as discourse

jxsl13 28-Sep-19 08:36 PM

flarum seems visually appealing, UX , dunno

heinrich5991 28-Sep-19 08:39 PM

also does not work without JS (I don't like when it doesn't)

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jxsl13 28-Sep-19 08:39 PM

vBulletin 5 ?

heinrich5991 28-Sep-19 08:39 PM

flarum

(I don't immediately rule out forum software if it doesn't support browsing without JS. I don't see a reason why you can't render static text on the server.)

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vbulletin looks like proprietrary software. I personally wouldn't want to run it (there's plently of good open-source forum software)

god damn it, that word

*proprietary

jxsl13 28-Sep-19 08:42 PM

it is, got a license flying around ._., I think Discourse is highly used and well maintained.

heinrich5991 28-Sep-19 08:43 PM

yep

e.g. rust uses it IIRC

jxsl13 28-Sep-19 08:43 PM

I saw it being used by Plex(Media centre) and PlatformIO

Dune 28-Sep-19 08:44 PM

works without JS sounds like a harsh constraint nowadays unfortunately

heinrich5991 28-Sep-19 08:45 PM

I don't mind supporting that constraint where I can

it's not that I browse without JS, but some people do

e.g. I was once very happy that the arch linux forums worked without JS, when trying to access them with a terminal browser to fix an installatio

n

Dune 28-Sep-19 08:46 PM

yeah makes sense

not sure what discourse looks like in links, probably like garbage

MatiasMunk 28-Sep-19 09:11 PM

@LordSk does your zomb mode require any additional dependencies?

LordSk 28-Sep-19 09:12 PM

@MatiasMunk No I don't think so, why?

MatiasMunk 28-Sep-19 09:13 PM

Dunno, permission denied to run.

Anyway, it's weird when I git your zomb repo I don't get source files

only build folder

heinrich5991 28-Sep-19 09:13 PM

chmod +x binary

perhaps

MatiasMunk 28-Sep-19 09:14 PM

Shouldn't be necessary, all other mods work.

And built from source on that very machine

Uhm I don't get how I can even compile in the process git clone --single-branch --branch mod/zomb https://github.com/LordSk/teeworlds.git --recurse-submodules . then compile Yet I only have build folder when I go into my docker container

LordSk 28-Sep-19 09:21 PM

Cmake issue perhaps?

MatiasMunk 28-Sep-19 09:39 PM

Probably, dunno. Works with your instagib, so I can't see what shouldn't work. I set it up the same way. (edited)

Dune 28-Sep-19 09:47 PM

weird

oko 29-Sep-19 03:46 AM

why would we ever want to switch to discourse? the existing setup doesnt have a single flaw I can think of

Dune 29-Sep-19 08:53 AM

@oko no mobile version, image upload, bbcode is old, bad moderation tools

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 02:12 PM

Could you please move the eyes in the .png / .svg? Just for a little 0.6 feeling?

Zatline 29-Sep-19 02:28 PM

noo

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 02:30 PM

whyyy

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 02:43 PM

Hey thats me

ChillerDragon 29-Sep-19 02:45 PM

#fame

hey that part of the map looks like i mapped it xd

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 02:46 PM

you die

did*

xd

Dune 29-Sep-19 02:48 PM

@Deleted User I guess it's very subjective what is better

LordSk 29-Sep-19 02:49 PM

left one is much better

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 02:49 PM

Yes, I know but it is an option to add it like "eyes_02"?

LordSk 29-Sep-19 02:50 PM

wait, @Deleted User, do you want the right version?

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 02:51 PM

Yes, right one is Fix

LordSk 29-Sep-19 02:52 PM

Ok, that's interesting.

Perhaps @Dune can provide an option in his gamer client.

Dune 29-Sep-19 02:54 PM

That kind of customization probably belongs to a custom client, yeah. Can't go back and forth with the artistic directions

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 02:54 PM

Okay

Dune 29-Sep-19 02:54 PM

I think it's really cool to put options for everything, but not in the main game :P

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 02:55 PM

ChillerDragon 29-Sep-19 03:16 PM

agree w Dune

who is this Whis even? xd

Dune 29-Sep-19 03:28 PM

he was a prominent artist a few years ago

ChillerDragon 29-Sep-19 03:28 PM

im jokin bru

im obviously his biggest fanboii

did u see my profilepicture? its whis stuff

Dune 29-Sep-19 03:29 PM

ah, didn't know :))

ChillerDragon 29-Sep-19 03:29 PM

now u know

Whis ❤

i spend 5+ years looking at his art almost daily (edited)

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 03:46 PM

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 05:13 PM

fokkonaut with his lit hairstyle :justatest:

that braber got a raise 100%

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 05:51 PM

send pic

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:02 PM

lmao

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:08 PM

xd

@Deleted User send skins pls

0.7

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:09 PM

its ugly as fuck

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:09 PM

u

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:09 PM

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:09 PM

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:10 PM

i drawed the white shape in the colors and added the markins on the skin it self (edited)

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:10 PM

wuy

why

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:10 PM

it was faster

and easy

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:10 PM

make it different

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:10 PM

i can

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:10 PM

Do it

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:10 PM

it was only for testing

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:10 PM

ok

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:11 PM

or you try it ur own

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:12 PM

no

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:12 PM

ez

gimme a bit of time

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:13 PM

10 min

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:13 PM

1

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:14 PM

xE

xD

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:14 PM

10min = 100 euro (edited)

fokkonaut 29-Sep-19 06:14 PM

u

Deleted User 29-Sep-19 06:14 PM

⏮

what program

inkscape

Deleted User 30-Sep-19 12:28 AM

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jxsl13 30-Sep-19 12:32 AM

@Deleted User Can you create a naked tee skin :o?

heinrich5991 30-Sep-19 12:33 AM

@jxsl13 default

jxsl13 30-Sep-19 12:33 AM

got no funny butt cheeks

I think the default skin should have hair

some neat spiky hair.

fokkonaut 30-Sep-19 12:37 AM

https://discordapp.com/channels/407308363031117832/407308363031117834/627840058107494410

like that

Deleted User 30-Sep-19 12:37 AM

oh no

fokkonaut 30-Sep-19 12:37 AM

xD

jxsl13 30-Sep-19 12:38 AM

concept art was something like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490150878934990850/614608792839127040/Bildschirmfoto_2019-08-24_um_01.54.48.png

fokkonaut 30-Sep-19 12:38 AM

ahja digga

jxsl13 30-Sep-19 12:39 AM

yeah, that's the perfect default skin there

with the nice hair and tomatoesque appearance

BLACKGHOST 30-Sep-19 08:02 PM

Joined the server.

hi

iam playing teeworlds

hello

@Deleted User @LusciousNorma#3081 @heinrich5991 @Deleted User @fokkonaut @jxsl13 @BLACKGHOST

fokkonaut 30-Sep-19 08:05 PM

nice

heinrich5991 30-Sep-19 08:06 PM

please don't ping people randomly

jxsl13 30-Sep-19 08:06 PM

get your whole family to play teeworlds

and your friends and your school, the whole word! @BLACKGHOST (edited)

Deleted User 30-Sep-19 08:06 PM

mass ping

jxsl13 30-Sep-19 08:08 PM

he pinged himself

Deleted User 30-Sep-19 08:10 PM

alexqem 30-Sep-19 08:14 PM

Joined the server.

BLACKGHOST 30-Sep-19 10:20 PM

hi

Deleted User 01-Oct-19 09:42 AM

hi

Iman 01-Oct-19 04:26 PM

ih

BLACKGHOST 01-Oct-19 05:38 PM

play ??

Dune 01-Oct-19 05:49 PM

those people want to play with you: https://status.tw/player/list/

Online Player list - status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players.

ChillerDragon 01-Oct-19 07:32 PM

haha Dune doing the jxsl move

Deleted User 01-Oct-19 07:53 PM

find hot single tees

in your server

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Deleted User 01-Oct-19 08:01 PM

^ |

jxsl13 02-Oct-19 01:07 AM

why is it my move.

ᶰ°Konͧsti 02-Oct-19 01:25 AM

Deleted User 02-Oct-19 01:25 AM

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Deleted User 02-Oct-19 08:39 AM

zoozti

(edited)

Deleted User 02-Oct-19 10:57 PM

how do advertise teeworlds: Have you ever wanted to play as kirby with a gun?? well now you can!! just download teeworlds and play now!! for free!! :)

Iman 02-Oct-19 11:06 PM

this is not kirby

Deleted User 02-Oct-19 11:20 PM

kirby with gun

without the sugoyo mouth

Iman 02-Oct-19 11:43 PM

THIS IS NOT KIRBY >:O

ChillerDragon 03-Oct-19 01:23 PM

@Deleted User currently it is a bad time to advertise teeworlds. As long as we still have two split up communities it is even smaller and less attractive game.

Deleted User 03-Oct-19 09:17 PM

people still play multimap?

jxsl13 03-Oct-19 09:17 PM

check out zCatch >:o

play zCatch!

Deleted User 03-Oct-19 09:21 PM

is it fng

jxsl13 03-Oct-19 09:23 PM

zCatch > fng

ask, @noby , he will agree.

Deleted User 03-Oct-19 09:29 PM

ya ya so much to belive!!

jxsl13 03-Oct-19 09:32 PM

hm hm

Deleted User 03-Oct-19 09:34 PM

new teworlds has worse trolls, thus its better

jxsl13 03-Oct-19 09:43 PM

yeah, zCatch for the win.

zCatch has no trolls, only nice people.

Deleted User 04-Oct-19 01:33 AM

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noby 04-Oct-19 01:12 PM

fng best mode

2

1

Deleted User 04-Oct-19 02:27 PM

f3

jxsl13 04-Oct-19 02:46 PM

zCatch best best mode > fng best mode

BLACKGHOST 04-Oct-19 10:25 PM

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii*

Deleted User 05-Oct-19 01:37 AM

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OctoBlitz 05-Oct-19 10:09 AM

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El BobLex 05-Oct-19 12:03 PM

Forum spam in Support

BLACKGHOST 05-Oct-19 12:12 PM

hi

MJB 05-Oct-19 05:10 PM

Joined the server.

ictf sombody?

Iman 05-Oct-19 05:20 PM

gctf ?

ChillerDragon 05-Oct-19 05:53 PM

is the server hoster Law on this discord? Or does someone has any contact of him?

these servers in case you have no clue what i am talking about

Iman 05-Oct-19 05:59 PM

wait a sec

i send u an invite to Law's serv

u received the invite ?

jxsl13 05-Oct-19 06:08 PM

@Trafalgar Law

jxsl13 06-Oct-19 12:38 AM

forum spam :'(

jxsl13 06-Oct-19 03:24 PM

no forum update yet :'(

Dune 06-Oct-19 04:33 PM

can someone connect to the MMOTee server? I keep getting too weak connection errors

Deleted User 06-Oct-19 04:58 PM

@Dune wait i check this, on all official teeworlds 0.7 clients

ChillerDragon 06-Oct-19 05:03 PM

MMOTee works fine with ZillyWoods client :p

Deleted User 06-Oct-19 05:04 PM

@Dune Everything works but only in 0.7.1 i get netobj failed

But this is not critical

Dune 06-Oct-19 05:04 PM

I don't think it's a client problem

I keep getting 'Too weak connection (not acked for 10 seconds)'

hmm, well maybe it is, I'll investigate

Deleted User 06-Oct-19 05:24 PM

@Dune On the server, most players play with regular vanilla clients Problems like no one did not arise, i think the connection to the server itself is lost from you

Deleted User 06-Oct-19 11:42 PM

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ReiTW 07-Oct-19 10:50 AM

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Deleted User 07-Oct-19 03:16 PM

rj

Deleted User 07-Oct-19 10:56 PM

and big rq

Deleted User 08-Oct-19 07:09 PM

@Assa search flags https://matricks.github.io/bam/bam.html flags_cxx and flags_c i think maybe problem here (edited)

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Assa 08-Oct-19 07:12 PM

now this is a great hint

i just have to set flags_cxx instead of flags

Assa 08-Oct-19 07:21 PM

works like a charm, thank you so much ❤

Tezcan 08-Oct-19 09:17 PM

antiping would be great!

Dune 08-Oct-19 10:42 PM

indeed it would, @Tezcan

Deleted User 09-Oct-19 01:22 AM

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Rimso 09-Oct-19 01:36 PM

Joined the server.

hi !

Rimso 09-Oct-19 02:20 PM

I tried to run a Ddrace sever but the teleport doesn't work, you can check, server name 'Rimso - Run !'

I hope that someone can help me

Dune 09-Oct-19 02:52 PM

You need to use the map update tool for 0.6->0.7 maps

Check out the forum thread

YayYay 09-Oct-19 03:02 PM

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Rimso 09-Oct-19 03:09 PM

I found the compiled version, but not for linux arm (for raspberry). But the source code (edited)

Dune 09-Oct-19 03:13 PM

Yes, you would have to compile it for arm by yourself

Rimso 09-Oct-19 03:15 PM

But where is* the source code?

Assa 09-Oct-19 03:22 PM

GitHub, a place with a lot of magic

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Dune 09-Oct-19 03:22 PM

Wherever you found the binaries, it should be there as well

Rimso 09-Oct-19 03:43 PM

Okay thank you

Rimso 09-Oct-19 06:29 PM

I found it, and when I run the command bam tools to compile, I got this error : src/tools/map/map.h:324:44: error: ‘swap’ was not declared in this scope (edited)

Assa 09-Oct-19 06:40 PM

have you tried cmake? I think we need more infos to help you

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds

https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/find/ddr

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

read the readme, there you find some compile informations. (Maybe click on the link on the bottom?)

Rimso 09-Oct-19 06:58 PM

I didn't see the command to compile map_update with make so I don't know how

But I tried the link on the bottom and I followed all step, and same error

jxsl13 09-Oct-19 07:04 PM

link to source?

Rimso 09-Oct-19 07:09 PM

https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds/issues/34

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Dune-jr/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Dune 09-Oct-19 07:47 PM

bam tools to get the tool

Ah, seems you already tried

map_update binaries · Issue #34 · axblk/teeworlds

Seeing how many people ask for a compiled version of map_update, and waiting for a release, I'd like to post them here so they can be easily linked. I will remove the links once there is a ...

Rimso 09-Oct-19 07:53 PM

But it's for linux x86 and 64, and mine is linux arm

Rimso 09-Oct-19 08:02 PM

I did it ! the problem was on the file src/tools/map/map.h and src/tools/map/map.h, I added std:: in front of swap(...) 

but I don't know if that will work correctly with the map, i'll try

jxsl13 09-Oct-19 08:22 PM

might miss an include

Dune 09-Oct-19 08:36 PM

@Rimso thanks for reporting on the solution :)

@redix ^

KenLeSurvivant 09-Oct-19 09:28 PM

Joined the server.

Rimso 09-Oct-19 10:50 PM

the Map_Update did work the teleportation, but not the acceleration (like in Multimap_less), and some red zone also on Rung_Guy_25

You can try, server name 'Rimso - Run !'

Iman 09-Oct-19 11:26 PM

Rung_Guy_25

Dune 09-Oct-19 11:51 PM

sounds like a better map name

ChillerDragon 10-Oct-19 12:26 AM

nice zCatch srv @jxsl13 /top5 when?

redix 10-Oct-19 12:41 AM

@Dune https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds/commit/a1f480843925ede39b3d2983aba583e51e0ada76#diff-4c40af5b1ee9141031120e005587d806L324-R324

Fix map-update tool · axblk/teeworlds@a1f4808

std::swap would also work

Apaex 10-Oct-19 12:58 AM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 10-Oct-19 01:57 AM

ranking is already for quite a while part of zCatch 0.7

./help exlains most of the features.

./top exists

Souly 10-Oct-19 07:44 AM

Joined the server.

Souly 10-Oct-19 08:40 AM

hey

Kyosuke 10-Oct-19 08:49 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 10-Oct-19 09:41 AM

Oops, my bad, @redix

ChillerDragon 10-Oct-19 09:51 AM

Ah nice ima check it out

eNJi 10-Oct-19 09:56 AM

Joined the server.

MatiasMunk 10-Oct-19 02:36 PM

@Rimso

DanilBest 10-Oct-19 06:29 PM

Joined the server.

Iman 10-Oct-19 07:56 PM

@jxsl13 Second aimbot (edited)

ppl already spotted a tee using an aimbot weeks ago

11/09/2019 talked about it in this chan

Dune 10-Oct-19 08:06 PM

0.7 changes nothing wrt cheats, it is not useful to report them other than on the server

Iman 10-Oct-19 08:07 PM

y ikr

Bust 10-Oct-19 09:09 PM

Joined the server.

Rimso 10-Oct-19 10:58 PM

@MatiasMunk yes ?

MatiasMunk 11-Oct-19 08:54 AM

Not sure if you're interested or not but @ Primhosting, we offer free DDRace servers hosting with source code being built each start up. (edited)

Trafalgar Law 11-Oct-19 09:40 PM

https://i.imgur.com/JlTQrSj.png What can i do against ddos? Some Person ddos my server <.<

ChillerDragon 11-Oct-19 09:44 PM

My ddos protection in the last years was not being competitive. Do not host the mainstream stuff and you should be fine. Otherwise you can try analyzing the attacking traffic using tshark for example and try playing around with firewall rules. But I never did that because my plan A was working pretty good :p

Or get a tw specific quality firewall on https://servercompass.com/?r=chiller

jxsl13 11-Oct-19 10:06 PM

https://servercompass.com/?r=chiller <- not a referral link.

stop hosting mainstream stuff, that makes ppl, who don't take care of their servers jealous.

ChillerDragon 11-Oct-19 10:16 PM

xd im totally not biased cuz i get rich through servercompass partnership

no but srysly its best hoster but i just double checked the ddos protection is currently not available.

SplInTaCs 12-Oct-19 06:15 PM

Joined the server.

Iman 12-Oct-19 07:00 PM

WTF IS GOING ON

not any bp serv online

oh yes

there are online sorry

everything is ok with the issue of the grenade kill by a deco ppl ?

i played on 3 insta grenade servers for the past hour

and everyone of them crahed like 1 or 2 times

ReiTW 12-Oct-19 07:13 PM

Joined the server.

Iman 12-Oct-19 07:22 PM

a psychopath is ddosing every insta gre serv or what !

Rimso 12-Oct-19 09:12 PM

a nolife*

Trafalgar Law 13-Oct-19 07:03 PM

https://i.imgur.com/2M1I5dE.png What the hell, what is that, never seen before?

jxsl13 13-Oct-19 07:05 PM

dunno

fokkonaut 13-Oct-19 07:06 PM

That means the server tries to send something to the client and fails that, so it decideds to kick that client

vairan37 13-Oct-19 10:33 PM

Joined the server.

AoA | 🍔ᗪєค丅ᕼ෴ 13-Oct-19 11:14 PM

Joined the server.

ohhh ok

kotC9 14-Oct-19 01:47 AM

Joined the server.

AoA | 🍔ᗪєค丅ᕼ෴ 14-Oct-19 10:02 AM

helo

kotC9 14-Oct-19 10:39 AM

нет\

AoA | 🍔ᗪєค丅ᕼ෴ 14-Oct-19 04:38 PM

is there anyone that can help me in aip does ur server have to be vannilla???

to be able to use aip

ChillerDragon 14-Oct-19 04:52 PM

what is aip?

this faste shooting thing? thats not vanilla

or aip gores? the map? This map is also not designed for vanilla.

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:43 PM

Joined the server.

Hello

Does someone know how to get a darker black for my tee ?

I tried to do this and rename it "kitty" to have a dark kitty skin but I see everyone with the vanilla kitty skin darker, so it's ugly for white skins (edited)

(thanks to souly)

then I tryed to rename it like another thing, but everyone see me without ears

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:46 PM

can souly create a naked tee skin :0

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:46 PM

that was what everybody saw (edited)

that's what i saw

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:48 PM

you need to send your custom skin to the people who would want to see it

everyone has only the basic skins and their own downloaded ones, not neccessarily your skin.

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:49 PM

yes that's the problem

I want at least that everybody see me with ears

can i modify this ? If yes how ?

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:50 PM

sadly your wish will never come true

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:50 PM

;-;

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:51 PM

that's the xolor of some body part isnt it?

color

either the numbers to the right

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:51 PM

but...but... just do it ? make your dream come true ? don't let your dreams e dreams ?

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:51 PM

or clicking in the rectangle

or move that slider

in each row

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:53 PM

I know this xddd

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:53 PM

hue : ---color | <- slider----more color---

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:53 PM

I meant

Can I modify the code of this to have a darker black

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:54 PM

what is a darker black? black black

you mean to remove the transparency?

I guess that's somewhere in the client code

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:55 PM

nah

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:55 PM

if you mean the background of the GUI

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:56 PM

see this black ?

It's not black, it's grey

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:56 PM

yeah

Garwex 15-Oct-19 08:56 PM

but you can't get darker than it

THIS is black

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 08:57 PM

:0

lemme google for a moment

well, it should be black if you set Hue to 0 and the rest as well to 0

@Garwex :o=

Garwex 15-Oct-19 09:01 PM

I KNOW THIS

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 09:01 PM

?

Garwex 15-Oct-19 09:01 PM

I mean

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 09:01 PM

and it's not getting darker than yur grey?

your

Garwex 15-Oct-19 09:01 PM

The teeworlds maximum black

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 09:01 PM

did you try to rejoin the server?

Garwex 15-Oct-19 09:01 PM

the darkest black that you can do it this

(wait)

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 09:01 PM

after changing your skin settings?

Garwex 15-Oct-19 09:02 PM

YES

That's what i'm explaining

I know

i playes tw for 5 months xd

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 09:03 PM

well, might be a bug? maybe it's intended?

Garwex 15-Oct-19 09:03 PM

This is the darkest black that you can get in Teeworlds vanilla

this is grey

this isn't black

this is pure black

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 09:05 PM

well, I don't have an amoled display :'/

do you have this issue on vanilla servers (gametype ctf, dm, lms(any of these))?

@Garwex it's intentional, rip garwex :/

Garwex 15-Oct-19 09:09 PM

xd

welp, i guess i'll have to take a grey skin xD

Dune 15-Oct-19 09:19 PM

@Garwex pure black means you can't see eyes, doublejump indicator, etc, there is a limit on that since 0.6

You can however, make a custom skin that only you see, just like in 0.6, and make the base thing dark

Garwex 15-Oct-19 09:31 PM

ok, thanks for those specifications

Deleted User 15-Oct-19 10:38 PM

:troll: racism debunked

Deleted User 15-Oct-19 10:47 PM

just turn ur monitor off

after this ur tee will be black

4

jxsl13 15-Oct-19 11:09 PM

I upvote this.

Garwex 16-Oct-19 12:25 AM

gelaba

Souly 16-Oct-19 05:25 PM

rip black color

Zatline 16-Oct-19 06:54 PM

black is not a color

1

jxsl13 16-Oct-19 07:05 PM

I upvote this.

Trafalgar Law 16-Oct-19 08:06 PM

@Dune why is there no option for copy a text in teeworlds

? I can just paste into teeworlds ;-;

Dune 16-Oct-19 08:07 PM

@M@Trafalgar Law because no one wrote that

Trafalgar Law 16-Oct-19 08:08 PM

But you can add it

Dune 16-Oct-19 08:11 PM

Like anyone else, yes

It's a big chunk and I'm busy with work

jxsl13 16-Oct-19 10:05 PM

is that like the forum spam?

Deleted User 16-Oct-19 10:07 PM

its "free nitro" shit

fake 100%

Dune 16-Oct-19 10:15 PM

@jxsl13, my relationship to teeworlds is no different than yours. I do shit when I find the time and motivation

jxsl13 16-Oct-19 10:51 PM

:D

IndigoBug86125 16-Oct-19 11:05 PM

Joined the server.

hello?

helllo?

can someone help me?

hello?

heartbeats

is someone online?

heinrich5991 16-Oct-19 11:12 PM

hi

BLACKGHOST 16-Oct-19 11:12 PM

hi

IndigoBug86125 16-Oct-19 11:12 PM

oh hey

BLACKGHOST 16-Oct-19 11:12 PM

hey

IndigoBug86125 16-Oct-19 11:12 PM

my teeworlds is not working

BLACKGHOST 16-Oct-19 11:13 PM

on steam ???

IndigoBug86125 16-Oct-19 11:13 PM

yes

can you speak german too?

hello?

BLACKGHOST 16-Oct-19 11:15 PM

No sorry, I don't know

IndigoBug86125 16-Oct-19 11:15 PM

BLACKGHOST 16-Oct-19 11:15 PM

I don't know much about these things

IndigoBug86125 16-Oct-19 11:16 PM

ok tell me why are you in the teeworlds discord server?

BLACKGHOST 16-Oct-19 11:16 PM

Wipe it and reinstall it

You're wrong I'm just inside here

ok

There are members with a high rank told...

Tell them they are not me

Dune 16-Oct-19 11:20 PM

@IndigoBug86125 what is not working?

IndigoBug86125 16-Oct-19 11:21 PM

my teeworlds is not working if i started it

jxsl13 16-Oct-19 11:23 PM

screenshot of the error.

Dune 16-Oct-19 11:32 PM

@IndigoBug86125 OS, version, antivirus?

teeworlds does not start at all, nothing happens?

Deleted User 17-Oct-19 01:38 AM

Joined the server.

hey does anyone know how to edit a exe server file, I have old NX|City and wanting to update it to 0.7.3.1 and then might edit the map

jxsl13 17-Oct-19 01:46 AM

get source code or don't update. not rly "possible" without source code. (edited)

Save Da Beez 🐝 17-Oct-19 02:22 AM

Joined the server.

IndigoBug86125 17-Oct-19 11:31 AM

hello?

VCRUNTIME140.dll was not found.

why i must sending heartbeats as master?

helloooo?

hello?

IndigoBug86125 17-Oct-19 11:44 AM

vielleicht ein deutscher?

jxsl13 17-Oct-19 11:53 AM

you are sending heartbeats to the master server if you are running a teeworlds server, a client does not send any heart beats

IndigoBug86125 17-Oct-19 11:53 AM

im on the cmd section what i should do?

jxsl13 17-Oct-19 11:54 AM

what are you trying to run? server or client?

IndigoBug86125 17-Oct-19 11:55 AM

client

the game

jxsl13 17-Oct-19 11:55 AM

you double click Teeworlds.exe and should be running fine?

not the server

executable

IndigoBug86125 17-Oct-19 11:55 AM

xD

no

i mean if i start teeworlds_srv.exe a command section coming and i must sent heartbeats as master to master2.teeworlds.com

jxsl13 17-Oct-19 11:58 AM

that is the teeworlds server, not the client, as the "_srv" for server part indicates

the dll error up there should be fixed by installing this here, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=52685

Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 Redistributable Update 3 RC

This update is the latest in a cumulative series of feature additions and bug fixes for Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 Redistributable.

IndigoBug86125 17-Oct-19 11:59 AM

omg

there it is!

there

it

is

jxsl13 17-Oct-19 11:59 AM

the error or the working game?

IndigoBug86125 17-Oct-19 12:00 PM

i delete the windows thing !

omg thank you

jxsl13 17-Oct-19 12:00 PM

it's good that you deleted windows, use Linux.

IndigoBug86125 17-Oct-19 12:00 PM

i mean microsoft xD

jxsl13 17-Oct-19 12:00 PM

xD

anyway, I'm off.

Toxic3k 17-Oct-19 06:11 PM

Joined the server.

Iman 18-Oct-19 06:18 PM

hey

everyone

we're in hooktober

:D

Deleted User 18-Oct-19 06:55 PM

get the fuck out with that joke

Iman 18-Oct-19 06:56 PM

X)

Rimso 18-Oct-19 08:47 PM

Why this shadow ?

Zinnox 18-Oct-19 08:51 PM

Joined the server.

gammakas 18-Oct-19 08:57 PM

Joined the server.

a oui

jxsl13 18-Oct-19 09:03 PM

@Rimso you enabled debugging stuff. press ctrl + shift + d to disable it.

Rimso 18-Oct-19 09:08 PM

Okay ty

Dune 18-Oct-19 09:15 PM

ctrl+shift+g for extra nerdiness :)

jxsl13 18-Oct-19 09:17 PM

g :0 why is thos nowhere documented ._ .

this

Dune 19-Oct-19 12:10 AM

hey @Deleted User, I'm on the MmoTee server and it says I can't join because only 8 active players are allowed, but I only see 3? :o

ChillerDragon 19-Oct-19 01:10 AM

xd @jxsl13 never spammed all key combos in tw as a kid?

Dune 19-Oct-19 01:31 AM

ctrl+shift+q=god mode

jxsl13 19-Oct-19 02:04 AM

I was born an adult :D

Souly 19-Oct-19 03:47 AM

XD

ctrl+shift+q=god mode

how dumb i am that i used it

Deleted User 19-Oct-19 10:16 AM

@Dune, says it's where? (In tab select team? fix it) Or can't join? I don't know how hide bots in here, i used bots flags. I think need send (players + bots) in players slots Maybe I something missed and can be there hide bots? (edited)

Dune 19-Oct-19 12:32 PM

@Deleted User sorry for the imprecisions. I could join the server, the scoreboard showed 3 players, I was in spectators, but I could not join the game itself, it said "max 8 active players allowed" (client-side message)

now I am able to join though :)

There will be continuous chat history in the next version of Teeworlds btw

oh my god the waterfalls are so good :D

it all works amazing well =)

Deleted User 19-Oct-19 01:53 PM

@Dune yes it bug, i already fixed it "only 8 active players", for the most part, there's a lot that's don't active or don't used I'm trying to bring everything to the side where the players will build world in server And so the goal, big world, dungeons, lots of mobs, NPCs, quests, want to get people involved in the atmosphere (add new quests, mobs, npc, new storylines, passive quests without restart, only use on rcon 'updateworld', or 'addinfobot' (it parse your skin, and added new bot info, what later use for all mobs type (npc, mobs, quest npc)) But so far, not even all understand that in the beginning, next to is a quest NPC branch The main Story Hard to keep track of everything, although the more load I take on myself so it will seem very easy to me in a couple of days

jxsl13 19-Oct-19 01:54 PM

https://youtu.be/V4Bz_HDib9Q?t=47 (edited)

DeafDenis 19-Oct-19 02:04 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 19-Oct-19 02:26 PM

@Deleted User glad to hear it was fixed so fast. And yeah, it's always hard to make people understand customization systems :)

jason54 19-Oct-19 02:36 PM

...

fokkonaut 19-Oct-19 02:36 PM

i wont respnd

Dune 19-Oct-19 02:36 PM

@jason54 no insults here

jason54 19-Oct-19 02:37 PM

it's not an insult

fokkonaut 19-Oct-19 02:37 PM

"youre stupid"

jason54 19-Oct-19 02:37 PM

Nice

the truth

fokkonaut 19-Oct-19 02:37 PM

stop

Dune 19-Oct-19 02:37 PM

if you keep at it, you will take a leave

jason54 19-Oct-19 02:39 PM

Bye

ReiTW 19-Oct-19 02:53 PM

@Dune :((

jxsl13 19-Oct-19 03:40 PM

Still doesn't understand what giving credit to ppl's work is, lol.

Frozen 19-Oct-19 07:54 PM

Joined the server.

Assa 19-Oct-19 08:06 PM

Using teeworlds as my daily dose of beating children

Dune 20-Oct-19 07:56 PM

anyone here have some custom particles?

nevermind, https://teeskins.de :)

-IYI- 20-Oct-19 08:07 PM

Joined the server.

hello

Dune 20-Oct-19 08:08 PM

hi

-IYI- 20-Oct-19 08:09 PM

server multimap dc ?

et ce que qlq a le serveur multimap ou pas ?

sur discords

and does anyone have the multimap server or not?

Dune 20-Oct-19 08:12 PM

english only here

-IYI- 20-Oct-19 08:15 PM

ok

El BobLex 20-Oct-19 10:34 PM

forum spam

heinrich5991 20-Oct-19 10:39 PM

already deleted?

2

Dune 20-Oct-19 10:40 PM

sorry, next one is yours

aopst 20-Oct-19 11:13 PM

Joined the server.

1

Dune 20-Oct-19 11:15 PM

if (Dmg > 2) GameServer()->CreateSound(m_Pos, SOUND_PLAYER_PAIN_LONG); else GameServer()->CreateSound(m_Pos, SOUND_PLAYER_PAIN_SHORT);

@aopst

so this depends on the amount of damage

aopst 20-Oct-19 11:16 PM

anything other linked to hp/sound?

Dune 20-Oct-19 11:16 PM

not that I can find

static CDataSound x2069[] = { /* x2069[0] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-01.wv", }, /* x2069[1] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-02.wv", }, /* x2069[2] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-03.wv", }, /* x2069[3] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-04.wv", }, /* x2069[4] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-05.wv", }, /* x2069[5] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-06.wv", }, /* x2069[6] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-07.wv", }, /* x2069[7] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-08.wv", }, /* x2069[8] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-09.wv", }, /* x2069[9] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-10.wv", }, /* x2069[10] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-11.wv", }, /* x2069[11] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_short-12.wv", }, }; static CDataSound x2112[] = { /* x2112[0] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_long-01.wv", }, /* x2112[1] */ { 0, "audio/vo_teefault_pain_long-02.wv", }, };

it seems sounds are grouped indiscriminately

AGMB-DDNET 21-Oct-19 05:02 PM

Joined the server.

do you have aver with DDnet too? - I'M FROM BRAZIL

I can help you in the graphic part

Dune 21-Oct-19 05:54 PM

english only here, ra'ed

rush9z 22-Oct-19 01:39 AM

Joined the server.

Sauce 22-Oct-19 10:05 PM

Joined the server.

Wow a good amount of people

Dune 22-Oct-19 10:19 PM

so now we have @Sauce and @The Weeb, huh

Sauce 22-Oct-19 11:24 PM

I guess so haha

I guess my name is a bit simple, had it forever though

Dune is cool

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621516244461420544/636244143722725377/skyboxman.jpg

Skayland 23-Oct-19 04:09 AM

Dune is dusty and sandy

Sauce 23-Oct-19 10:22 AM

He probably looks a lot like skybox man in the photo. Just usually right side up. But upside down sometimes when he wants to loose weight.

Assa 23-Oct-19 10:35 PM

ASCII Teeworlds

Or do you prefer Mario?

LordSk 23-Oct-19 11:22 PM

@Assa Post-processing shaders?

Skayland 24-Oct-19 01:15 AM

Is that a client? Please give when finished

Fudgy 24-Oct-19 02:12 AM

maybe just edited screenshot with third party tool

Deleted User 24-Oct-19 03:35 AM

thats 4k

NOVA31 24-Oct-19 11:59 AM

Joined the server.

Assa 24-Oct-19 05:15 PM

@LordSk @Skayland @Fudgy https://reshade.me/

ReShade

ReShade - Advanced post-processing everywhere.

Skayland 24-Oct-19 05:18 PM

Huh thanks

Assa 24-Oct-19 05:18 PM

if you need help with setting up, pm me. This doesn't run well on potatoes

Dune 24-Oct-19 05:50 PM

sounds like a cheat vector in some games

but pretty cool :)

Assa 24-Oct-19 05:52 PM

@Dune I tried bending and moving stuff for a zoom

It's not possible

Dune 24-Oct-19 05:57 PM

@Assa I don't mean for teeworlds — it's open source, so it doesn't matter

majix 25-Oct-19 03:32 PM

Joined the server.

DanilBest 25-Oct-19 05:25 PM

hi

i'm back

Bambikiller 25-Oct-19 09:06 PM

Joined the server.

n000b 26-Oct-19 04:36 PM

Wb

Fudgy 27-Oct-19 12:39 AM

is it known that some 0.6 servers are just not visible anymore? I have servers that are registered on master3 and I can never see them

Can only join by ip or see them on favorite tab

Dune 27-Oct-19 12:41 AM

that would be a masterserver issue

DDos, I imagine?

does someone have a clue where one could still find TeeViewer?

nvm https://downloads.teeworlds.com/solidfiles.com/b787/index.html :)

Assa 27-Oct-19 10:00 AM

@Fudgy try lowering br_max_request to 1 just for debugging, it may help

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 10:22 AM

@Dune was TeeViewer this css thingy that rendered 0.6 skins?

Dune 27-Oct-19 10:30 AM

@ChillerDragon 0.5 I think, not sure, but yeah :)

Got sources? :/

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 10:38 AM

Ah nvm we talkin about different stuff

I thought u ment Alexanders 0.6 teeassembler

Dune 27-Oct-19 10:39 AM

Are we? I just want to render tees

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 10:40 AM

Different project probably same result

so Alexander had this css thing and ddnet has this javascript thing

Dune 27-Oct-19 10:40 AM

Yeah but that's just as interesting

Huh

Would be nice to have one of those ported

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 10:42 AM

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-web/blob/master/www/skins/tee.js

idk where the css project is

teini94 27-Oct-19 12:51 PM

not sure what is the reason but cant find iCTF|save server when I search ictf

is it cause it only searches server names not gametyps?

fokkonaut 27-Oct-19 12:53 PM

gametyped can be searched if you go to FILTER

somewhere ln the right side of the browser

you should find a gametype field

also this is something i wanted for a long time; being able to search gametypes through the normal search field

Dune 27-Oct-19 12:59 PM

@fokkonaut sounds reasonable to match the filter string with gametypes too, yeah

fokkonaut 27-Oct-19 12:59 PM

yup

jxsl13 27-Oct-19 05:45 PM

the filter is completely user unfriendly. once you have set it up, you might never change it, but getting it to work on the first try is a hassle. 0.6 was way better there. just click and type.

Dune 27-Oct-19 06:33 PM

then make it better

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 06:38 PM

I have one question to the developer, why did you compressed the player list so much? There are 42 Player right now on Multimap and i can just see 15 on the list, not really smart ^^ What was the problem to the player list from 0.6? https://i.imgur.com/XZofhgK.png

Dune 27-Oct-19 06:40 PM

@Trafalgar Law 0.6 could not show 42 players either

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 06:40 PM

But i could see much more then 15

Dune 27-Oct-19 06:40 PM

huh? it was max 16

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 06:40 PM

I think it was 32 Players at 0.6

Dune 27-Oct-19 06:40 PM

no, 16

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 06:40 PM

Nah 0.6 was much more

Dune 27-Oct-19 06:40 PM

it was increased to 64 players for mods at 0.7

vanilla is still limited to 16 players

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 06:42 PM

But if you give the choice to get more then 16 players, why is the list only for 16 players?

Dune 27-Oct-19 06:42 PM

Well, the way it happened was that 0.7 was supposed to have max 16 players

The reason why we did not upgrade to 64 players was because of scoreboard issues

People said they really wanted 64 players even if the scoreboard wasn't fit, so it was put regardless

the issue is https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1828

64 player scoreboard · Issue #1828 · teeworlds/teeworlds

imo we need to do something about it, it doesnt look good. only some players are listed and the rest is not visible (and x other player...). what about using a big scoreboard like this: https://ddn...

it's difficult to design a satisfactory solution, I think we'll end up using pages

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 06:45 PM

That would be a good solution

Dune 27-Oct-19 06:45 PM

0.7.4 already has chat pages

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 06:50 PM

switch with page up and page down?

Dune 27-Oct-19 06:55 PM

yes

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 07:03 PM

1

@Trafalgar Law i ported this scoreboard from ddnet today and it will be in next ZillyWoods rls

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 07:03 PM

Nice one

Dune 27-Oct-19 07:04 PM

how do you make it work with non-team gamemodes?

ah, this is a non-team gamemode, right

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 07:04 PM

this is nonteam ye

didnt test teammodes too much tho

Dune 27-Oct-19 07:04 PM

that solution is a bit too hackish for vanilla though :|

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 07:04 PM

only <16 p teammodes was too lazy to set up a test srv with teams

that solution is a bit too hackish for vanilla though :|

thats what i thought :/

as far as i know it was declined in a issue already

Dune 27-Oct-19 07:06 PM

I think pages will work fine

where there is "... more players", I was thinking we could maybe render the tees that are missing in the display

that would help visualize maybe

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 07:07 PM

so only the skins all next to each other in one line?

sounds cool!

Dune 27-Oct-19 07:07 PM

yeah

2

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 07:07 PM

i literally spend the 2 days looking at the scoreboard code still no clue what it does xd

make a issue its a rly good idea so we dont forget @Dune

Dune 27-Oct-19 07:08 PM

yeah, shoulda

LordSk 27-Oct-19 07:09 PM

Does it help though?

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 07:09 PM

if you know what skins ppl use yes!

LordSk 27-Oct-19 07:09 PM

Ideally we would want to see every player

Dune 27-Oct-19 07:09 PM

yes

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 07:09 PM

especially with custom skins

LordSk 27-Oct-19 07:09 PM

Not squish them into a one skin line

Now of course if people did not play with the scoreboard open, we could make it a scroll region

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 07:10 PM

scroll is ugly assfuck

pages are more simple then scroll

LordSk 27-Oct-19 07:11 PM

In what way?

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 07:11 PM

its hard to scroll and play at the same time :/ I usually open scoreboard while playing

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 07:12 PM

^ and if you want switch weapons and you have the scoreboard open its hardcore shit

LordSk 27-Oct-19 07:12 PM

That's exactly what I prefaced with

The real question is, why would you want to play and look at the scoreboard?

Dune 27-Oct-19 07:13 PM

Scroll could fit chat, scoreboard not as much

LordSk 27-Oct-19 07:14 PM

I agree that pages would work btw (edited)

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 07:14 PM

Its cool in zCatch or other CTF gamemodes, but if you ever played DDRace/Gores its not good to play

I play often with Scoreboard open, i dont know why but i do it often xD

1

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 07:16 PM

just ddrace things...

Dune 27-Oct-19 07:31 PM

LordSk 27-Oct-19 07:31 PM

It looks cute at least

Dune 27-Oct-19 07:32 PM

tee bandwagon

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 07:45 PM

ReiTW 27-Oct-19 08:30 PM

ddnet's scoreboard is readable and works very well, idk why people needs more than 6 months to think about a simple popup menu

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 08:40 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_xpLGU0d3o&feature=youtu.be Anyone know why this is happening? Its happens sometimes if someone finish or join(just with score) I use the mod from @fokkonaut but he never seen before xD And my server say nothing too :/ Its really annoying if someone run and they die because of lag (edited)

KoF TrafalgarLaw

fokko

incompetentee 27-Oct-19 08:59 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 27-Oct-19 08:59 PM

that "bandwagon" looks funny.

rocket_077 27-Oct-19 09:11 PM

Joined the server.

Zatline 27-Oct-19 09:13 PM

the scorebord that is shown when "tab" doesn't rly need to show more than 16 people imo, vanilla types max player is 16 so there is that

but it would be cool to have a full extended scrollable scorebord in the game menu with more stats or as part of a "statsboard" (edited)

incompetentee 27-Oct-19 09:16 PM

hey! i've been looking into this lagging issue and i think the first problem is here: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet7/blob/master/src/game/server/score/file_score.cpp#L221 - why does it need to save the whole score db after loading a single score? and when it waits for the lock outside of the SaveScoreThread, it will hang until the thread is finished, rendering it useless, no?

DDNet port to TW 0.7. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet7 development by creating an account on GitHub.

but even then, idk why it would take several seconds to write a few kilobytes to disk...

ChillerDragon 27-Oct-19 09:20 PM

As far as I know the file is sorted by time so it can take a few seconds if it has to sort tons of ranks I guess

jxsl13 27-Oct-19 09:30 PM

use message queues and threading in order not to block the main thread :D

fokkonaut 27-Oct-19 09:50 PM

@ChillerDragon this doesnt happen anywhere else, only for him.

This is the same file score system as we have it in 0.6 ddnet

The error should be here: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet7/blob/master/src/game/server/score/file_score.cpp#L93 Make the 1000 to a 1. In DDNet thread_sleep accepts microseconds and in vanilla it is milliseconds (edited)

DDNet port to TW 0.7. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet7 development by creating an account on GitHub.

@Trafalgar Law

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 09:54 PM

okay i try

Trafalgar Law 27-Oct-19 10:06 PM

It fixxed it i think, thank you @fokkonaut

fokkonaut 27-Oct-19 10:06 PM

yo

oko 28-Oct-19 09:05 AM

if anyone has noticed the 0.7 Hypercubed servers have been offline, they will resume soon. I decided to shut down all servers due to my state being engulfed in flames

Dune 28-Oct-19 09:40 AM

@oko ouch good luck with that. What gametype were those?

We don't have so many US servers unfortunately

oko 28-Oct-19 09:47 AM

zcatch, ctf, ictf, dm, and idm, I beleive.

teini94 28-Oct-19 09:50 AM

MY POWER ITS OVERFLOWING

n000b 28-Oct-19 09:56 AM

@oko take care

oko 28-Oct-19 09:58 AM

thank you, luckily it seems that my area is in the clear.

jxsl13 28-Oct-19 01:47 PM

:0? what's going on there?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 02:55 PM

@Dune your download to 5.5 is down

jxsl13 28-Oct-19 02:56 PM

That's why we need CD!

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 02:58 PM

Anyone downloaded it already? I want this update ;-;

Dune 28-Oct-19 03:09 PM

@Trafalgar Law https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/releases

android272/skinMe-script-for-Teeworlds

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Dune-jr/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

It was missing a - in the url, thanks

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 03:14 PM

@Dune is that normal? https://i.imgur.com/73Ix9g4.png (edited)

Dune 28-Oct-19 03:14 PM

Did you change the font?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 03:14 PM

yea

Dune 28-Oct-19 03:14 PM

Teeworlds uses the middle dot on that line. I don't think it's available in that font file :/

I think changing font also breaks the settings button

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 03:15 PM

if i changed the font how i can get the old font?

Dune 28-Oct-19 03:15 PM

The default font is DejaVuSans

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 03:15 PM

thanks ^^

Dune 28-Oct-19 03:16 PM

It's debatable whether we should use UTF-8 characters in Teeworlds :/ limits the font choices

n000b 28-Oct-19 03:23 PM

Its also debatable if we even need different fonts. I never even changed mine.

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 03:25 PM

@Dune https://i.imgur.com/Wf2h4zu.png Best particles ever

Dune 28-Oct-19 03:25 PM

my favorites as well :D

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 04:52 PM

@Dune you should add Grayfox

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:13 PM

What is that, @Trafalgar Law ?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:14 PM

You dont know the Greyfox Skin

?

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:14 PM

That's a teeskin, or a gameskin?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:14 PM

teeskin

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:15 PM

Can't you add teeskins in the data/skins folder by yourself?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:15 PM

but i cant add colors for this skin

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:15 PM

Hm, you mean the parts need to be white for the skin to be customizable?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:16 PM

If i add the skin in body, the color is just Gray/white, but i can't change the colors.. I tryed already to add the .json for that skin

It happens nothing

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:17 PM

You make a good point in that this is not very user-friendly :/

I think you need to have custom_colors:"true" in the .json, like such:

{"skin": { "body": { "filename": "standard", "custom_colors": "true", "hue": 81, "sat": 101, "lgt": 70 }, "marking": { "filename": "cammo2", "custom_colors": "true", "hue": 76, "sat": 97, "lgt": 45, "alp": 255 }, "hands": { "filename": "standard", "custom_colors": "true", "hue": 11, "sat": 117, "lgt": 0 }, "feet": { "filename": "standard", "custom_colors": "true", "hue": 29, "sat": 173, "lgt": 87 }, "eyes": { "filename": "standard", "custom_colors": "false" }} }

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:18 PM

yea that was i changed in the .json

No change

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:19 PM

hmm, I'm not familiar enough with skins

maybe @Zatline can help

so you can play the skin, but not change the colors, right, @Trafalgar Law ?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:20 PM

si

LordSk 28-Oct-19 05:20 PM

@Trafalgar Law paste your skin file here please

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:21 PM

sec

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:22 PM

I think the bottom right should only have the border :/

LordSk 28-Oct-19 05:22 PM

it is the wrong format

it should be like this

You're trying to convert a 0.6 skin to the 0.7 system right?

Zatline 28-Oct-19 05:24 PM

yep only upper right corner is colorable

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:25 PM

hm can anyone help me with that? I'm big noob there

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:25 PM

don't worry, everyone is here

LordSk 28-Oct-19 05:25 PM

Well where did you get this file from?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:25 PM

Some one from 0.7 send me the skin

LordSk 28-Oct-19 05:26 PM

I see

@Trafalgar Law try that one

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 05:29 PM

i will thanks

It works

But now i need the right feet from this skin, its ugly af without the right

jxsl13 28-Oct-19 05:34 PM

need some skin conversion webservice ;'(. otherwise rip LordSk's life as he will be the converter >:D

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:35 PM

Well, until someone dedicates themselves to make one there is this bash script: https://github.com/android272/skinMe-script-for-Teeworlds/blob/master/skinMe

A script that takes old TW 0.6 skins and converts them into TW 0.7 skins. - android272/skinMe-script-for-Teeworlds

LordSk 28-Oct-19 05:40 PM

The issue is image resolution, 0.6 skins are really small in comparaison.

Dune 28-Oct-19 05:41 PM

supporting higher resolutions is cool, it shouldn't be a requirement though

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 06:46 PM

@Dune i think your refresh button is not working

Dune 28-Oct-19 06:47 PM

@Trafalgar Law server browser?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 06:47 PM

si

Dune 28-Oct-19 06:47 PM

favorites tab or any?

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 06:47 PM

Global

Dune 28-Oct-19 06:47 PM

thanks for the report, will look when I come home. try ctrl+r

Trafalgar Law 28-Oct-19 06:48 PM

ctrl+r is too not working

Dune 28-Oct-19 06:48 PM

thanks

jxsl13 28-Oct-19 07:40 PM

please add F5 for refresh

Dune 28-Oct-19 11:59 PM

fixed

Trafalgar Law 29-Oct-19 10:11 AM

Nice one

Trafalgar Law 29-Oct-19 10:28 AM

@Dune refresh is not working if you on a server + you cant refresh your Favorites(everywhere) https://i.imgur.com/fIQVir2.png (edited)

Deleted User 29-Oct-19 04:31 PM

Trafalgar Law 29-Oct-19 04:31 PM

Dont bully me for that ;-;

jxsl13 29-Oct-19 04:33 PM

:'( Whis showing off his swag emotes.

stuck in 2005 (edited)

n000b 29-Oct-19 06:28 PM

Hehehe

F3

Whis big troll

Assa 29-Oct-19 08:57 PM

@Trafalgar Law added issue on github for a skin fix

Deleted User 29-Oct-19 09:23 PM

lmao

ReiTW 30-Oct-19 07:01 AM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/515773577698607115/638980492242190368/IMG_20191030_065942.jpg

owo magnus is everywhere

jxsl13 30-Oct-19 08:05 AM

:0

jxsl13 30-Oct-19 08:19 AM

https://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,41843/

Magnus Auvinen Video Game Credits and Biography - MobyGames

Magnus Auvinen has been credited on games developed by the following companies: Starbreeze Studios AB, Tigon Studios, Avalanche Studios AB, Bethesda Game Studios, ZeniMax Sweden AB, Starbreeze AB, Splash Damage, Ltd, id Software, Inc. and Arkane Studios SA. This does not imp...

Zatline 30-Oct-19 02:04 PM

some of the original tw devs also worked on Battlefield 3

actually it only was Johan Althoff (teetow) with BF3 huh had it different in memory

jxsl13 30-Oct-19 02:23 PM

I find that rather cool in general, people who now, better than ever, know their shit started Teeworlds :D. Would be cool if they at least looked over the code once in a while, might add some stuff from their gained experience

Oy is a mistery in comparison to matricks. (edited)

ReiTW 30-Oct-19 03:09 PM

@Zatline lol he even worked like magnus on youngblood

fokkonaut 30-Oct-19 04:06 PM

magnus worked on doom (edited)

and wolfenstein

and the elder scrolls

even just cause

Rimso 30-Oct-19 04:10 PM

Hi, where can I found a gctf server ? I tried this one but a lot of bug on compilation https://github.com/nheir/teeworlds/tree/Ginsta0.7

nheir/teeworlds

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to nheir/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Dune 30-Oct-19 04:34 PM

@Rimso show us the (first) errors (edited)

ReiTW 30-Oct-19 04:53 PM

@fokkonaut we know

fokkonaut 30-Oct-19 04:53 PM

ye

Rimso 30-Oct-19 05:22 PM

All this (edited)

jxsl13 30-Oct-19 05:42 PM

it cleary says that teeworlds needs your avatar's hair as hair for skins. hm hm.

seems not to find SDL.

serber modifications don't need sdl, so you could read the readme file and look for the part where the client compilation can be turned off.

server

Dune 30-Oct-19 05:46 PM

@Rimso I imagine you're on linux, so you just need to install the SDL2-dev package :)

# Debian/Ubuntu sudo apt install build-essential cmake git libfreetype6-dev libsdl2-dev libpnglite-dev libwavpack-dev python3 # Fedora sudo dnf install @development-tools cmake gcc-c++ git freetype-devel mesa-libGLU-devel pnglite-devel python3 SDL2-devel wavpack-devel # Arch Linux (doesn't have pnglite in its repositories) sudo pacman -S --needed base-devel cmake freetype2 git glu python sdl2 wavpack

Rimso 30-Oct-19 05:51 PM

I did it but still the same error :/

Dune 30-Oct-19 05:51 PM

./bam -c

then ./bam config :)

see what it says about finding SDL

Rimso 30-Oct-19 05:52 PM

Dune 30-Oct-19 05:53 PM

looks good, then just bam again?

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 05:53 PM

Is there any auto log for the server?

Dune 30-Oct-19 05:53 PM

what do you mean by that?

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 05:53 PM

I need a log where i can see the chat messages

Dune 30-Oct-19 05:54 PM

the server console does this, right

you want a text file, but not redirect the console?

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 05:54 PM

yea, i cant see everything of the console, because i'm run my server with screen

if i open the screen i can see like 1 min or what ever

not that much that i need

Dune 30-Oct-19 05:55 PM

src/engine/shared/config_variables.h:15:MACRO_CONFIG_STR(Logfile, logfile, 128, "", CFGFLAG_SAVE|CFGFLAG_CLIENT|CFGFLAG_SERVER, "Filename to log all output to")

rcon> logfile log.txt

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 05:56 PM

Is that updating 24/7? Or just if i close the server?

Dune 30-Oct-19 05:57 PM

@Rimso make sure you typed the dependency I quoted above. Try with sudo apt install mesa-common-dev if you're ubuntu, I think that fixes the GL problem

@Trafalgar Law it's a cfg option that you can add. I think it writes to file all the time

just try it on a local server :)

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 05:58 PM

I tryed that already with logfile log.txt but there is nothing written in the .txt

Rimso 30-Oct-19 05:58 PM

Installed and updated... and still same thing

Dune 30-Oct-19 05:58 PM

it creates a .txt? @Trafalgar Law

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 05:59 PM

oh i tought i had to create the file and link to this then

So its create a file?

Dune 30-Oct-19 05:59 PM

it should yes

somewhere like ~/.config/teeworlds or ~/.teeworlds if you're on Linux

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:00 PM

yea i'm on linux

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:00 PM

then locate log.txt :)

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:00 PM

i think it should created in teehistorian but no file is there

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:01 PM

It should not be created next to your server files iirc, but in the appdata

on linux you can also simply do ./teeworlds_srv | tee log.txt

the tee command is nice :)

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:02 PM

but the command 'logfile' is just when i'm online right?

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:02 PM

it's in your cfg, like sv_rcon_password etc

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:03 PM

If i try that to put this in my console, but not in the .cfg it should work also or not?

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:04 PM

it should

src/engine/shared/engine.cpp:96: str_format(aLogFilename, sizeof(aLogFilename), "dumps/%s%s.txt", g_Config.m_Logfile, aBuf);

this tells me that you'll find it in your dumps folder

@Rimso, weird, can you build vanilla Teeworlds?

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:05 PM

yeaaaaaa i found that too right now

But the file is fucking big

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:06 PM

@rand() ^

@Trafalgar Law it's a log file

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:06 PM

oh god

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:06 PM

if you want the exact same as the console, use the tee thingy :)

https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/releases/tag/5.5 is updated to fix the server browser issue btw

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:07 PM

Wait which command is that for the tee thing, bcs i thought the logfile command was for the teehistorie

ah i found it

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:07 PM

./teeworlds_srv | tee log.txt this is a linux command that duplicates console output to a file

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:08 PM

it's working :/

jxsl13 30-Oct-19 06:08 PM

that avatar is lit ._.

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:08 PM

mod-specific issues are harder to troubleshoot unfortunately

@Rimso c/p the first error please

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:09 PM

@Dune but I have to create the log.txt file right?

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:09 PM

no

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:09 PM

the first one src/engine/client/backend_sdl.h:148:2: error: 'SDL_Window' does not name a type SDL_Window *m_pWindow;

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:09 PM

Okay thanks dune i will try it out ^^

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:10 PM

it seems like you have SDL1 installed, @Rimso

what does dpkg -l | grep libsdl say, @Rimso ?

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:12 PM

ii libsdl-image1.2:armhf 1.2.12-5+deb9u2 armhf Image loading library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2, libraries ii libsdl-image1.2-dev:armhf 1.2.12-5+deb9u2 armhf Image loading library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2, development files ii libsdl-mixer1.2:armhf 1.2.12-11+b1 armhf Mixer library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2, libraries ii libsdl-ttf2.0-0:armhf 2.0.11-3 armhf TrueType Font library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2, libraries ii libsdl-ttf2.0-dev:armhf 2.0.11-3 armhf TrueType Font library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2, development files ii libsdl1.2-dev 1.2.15+dfsg1-4+rpt2 armhf Simple DirectMedia Layer development files ii libsdl1.2debian:armhf 1.2.15+dfsg1-4+rpt2 armhf Simple DirectMedia Layer ii libsdl2-2.0-0:armhf 2.0.5+dfsg1-2+rpt1 armhf Simple DirectMedia Layer ii libsdl2-dev 2.0.5+dfsg1-2+rpt1 armhf Simple DirectMedia Layer development files

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:12 PM

apt-get remove libsdl1.2-dev

I think Teeworlds is trying to use SDL1 instead of SDL2

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:13 PM

ah okay so I must to let just 1

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:13 PM

remove SDL1 temporarily to clear out that possibility

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:15 PM

same

desperate

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:16 PM

bam -c; bam config; bam -v, show one line that starts with g++ so I can see the compiling flags

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:16 PM

@Dune is this command(./teeworlds_srv | tee log.txt) creating the file where the _srv is?

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:16 PM

@Trafalgar Law yes

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:18 PM

Well @Dune the file is created but not written

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:19 PM

huh, does ./teeworlds_srv not create any console output?

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:19 PM

configuration: AUTO compiler gcc AUTO stackprotector yes AUTO minmacosxsdk no AUTO buildwithoutsseflag no AUTO zlib (in system path) AUTO sdl using pkg-config AUTO freetype using pkg-config notes: saved configuration to 'config.lua' bam: detected 4 cores bam: setup started bam: reading internal file 'src/base.lua' bam: reading internal file 'src/tools.lua' bam: reading internal file 'src/driver_gcc.lua' bam: reading internal file 'src/driver_clang.lua' bam: reading internal file 'src/driver_cl.lua' bam: reading internal file 'src/driver_solstudio.lua' bam: reading internal file 'src/driver_xlc.lua' bam: reading script from 'bam.lua' bam: reading script from 'configure.lua' bam: reading script from 'other/sdl/sdl.lua' bam: reading script from 'other/freetype/freetype.lua' bam: making build target bam: setup done

(edited)

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:20 PM

It should dune

But the file is empty

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:20 PM

@Rimso use ``` :p

bam -v, not bam config -v

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:21 PM

https://i.imgur.com/vWFiY9R.png ;-;

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:23 PM

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:23 PM

@Trafalgar Law echo hi | tee log.txt works?

huh, I don't see SDL flags @Rimso

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:24 PM

Nope dune

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:24 PM

probably a problem with @rand() 's config files then I would assume

jxsl13 30-Oct-19 06:24 PM

those curls!

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:26 PM

how can I add it ?

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:27 PM

Ok @Dune i tryed to put it in the .cfg, that is working

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:27 PM

cool @Trafalgar Law :)

@Rimso my bad it's not supposed to include SDL for layers.cpp

bam -v | grep g++ | grep sdl

?

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:30 PM

g++ -Wall -fno-exceptions `pkg-config --cflags sdl2` `pkg-config --cflags freetype2` -g -c -DCONF_DEBUG -I "src" -I "src/engine/external/pnglite" -I "src/engine/external/wavpack" -I "build/src" -I "src/engine/external/zlib" -o build/armv7l/debug/objs/engine/client/backend_sdl.o src/engine/client/backend_sdl.cpp

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:30 PM

@Dune ok its not really working. It just saying me the start of the server

But not smth like bans or chats

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:30 PM

~~do you see console output?~~ nvm (edited)

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:31 PM

Nah just the start

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:32 PM

and you're on linux?

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:32 PM

si

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:32 PM

@Rimso pkg-config --cflags sdl2 gives?

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 06:32 PM

okeeeeeeeee

i was stupid

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:33 PM

-D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/SDL2

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:35 PM

huuuh

surely grep SDL_Window /usr/include/SDL2/SDL_video.h ~~works~~ prints something (edited)

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:37 PM

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:41 PM

armv7l huh

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:42 PM

raspberry pi ^^

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:43 PM

Why and how would it use sdl1 files :/

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:44 PM

I can try autoremove and purge ?

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:44 PM

Try locate SDL.h

See if there are weird paths

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:49 PM

I saw some include of sdl and remove them

then...

Dune 30-Oct-19 06:53 PM

Hoho

Rimso 30-Oct-19 06:59 PM

thank you

this server want to haunt me... [server]: failed to load map. mapname='ctf5'

ls maps/ ctf5.map

Dune 30-Oct-19 07:18 PM

haha nice one

you're sure it's in the same folder as the serverbinaries?

start it from there

Rimso 30-Oct-19 07:21 PM

yes it is

i tried that too :

(edited)

and here too

ls ~/.local/share/teeworlds/maps/ ctf1.map ctf3.map ctf5.map ctf7.map dm2.map dm7.map dm9.map ctf2.map ctf4.map ctf6.map dm1.map dm6.map dm8.map

(edited)

Dune 30-Oct-19 07:26 PM

do you start the server with ./teeworlds_srv?

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 07:28 PM

Guys i think my server has a ghost ;-; I restarted my run_guy_25 server and i changed RLY nothing and now it works nothing more.. xD I get grenade dmg and the teleports are not working anymore

Thats fucking creepy

arqwezxc 30-Oct-19 07:30 PM

Joined the server.

Rimso 30-Oct-19 07:30 PM

./teeworlds_srv -f config.cfg

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 07:31 PM

You tryed to start the server with an other map @Rimso ?

Rimso 30-Oct-19 07:32 PM

with default map yep ./teeworlds and same thing

Dune 30-Oct-19 07:35 PM

oooh, it's a mapchecker problem

you have 0.6 maps

Rimso 30-Oct-19 07:36 PM

ah ! I'll try with other map

Rimso 30-Oct-19 07:54 PM

Worked

But why BotDM, I thought that it's gctf...

(and 'invalid standar map')

Dune 30-Oct-19 08:00 PM

you're probably on the wrong branch? git branch

Rimso 30-Oct-19 08:05 PM

yes..

* server_bot0.7

..

Dune 30-Oct-19 08:06 PM

git checkout ... :p

Rimso 30-Oct-19 08:08 PM

but i did git clone from here

Dune 30-Oct-19 08:09 PM

the clone or download button downloads the whole repository, not a specific branch

then it goes to the default branch, which rand set to server_bot0.7

Rimso 30-Oct-19 08:11 PM

Ah okay

~~So to switch branch what I need to do ?~~ git checkout :p (edited)

I'm giving up, still botDM

Dune 30-Oct-19 08:19 PM

bam -c; bam

make sure you're finding the server in the right repository

remove manually the binaries you are executing, and compile again to make sure they are generated by the compiling process

Rimso 30-Oct-19 08:31 PM

same :/

there is a way to do download the zip file of the branch ?

Dune 30-Oct-19 08:45 PM

If git branch says you are on that branch, you are ^^

jxsl13 30-Oct-19 09:03 PM

git checkout <branch name>

Souly 30-Oct-19 09:28 PM

2

only one more

Rimso 30-Oct-19 09:47 PM

I went from BotDM to gDM but still invalid standar map, so I gave up

jxsl13 30-Oct-19 10:00 PM

you chanhe the map with a server config file Oo

change

MyNameIsDisco 30-Oct-19 10:46 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 30-Oct-19 11:37 PM

@Rimso use a 0.7 map. 3 options: -Try bam content - get ctf5 from teeworlds.com - rename to ctf5_ :)

Rimso 30-Oct-19 11:44 PM

$ ./bam content bam: targets are up to date already

Rimso 30-Oct-19 11:53 PM

Work

thank you !

Dune 30-Oct-19 11:56 PM

Great to hear

Trafalgar Law 30-Oct-19 11:56 PM

Now dune can sleep good

Rimso 31-Oct-19 12:08 AM

me too :p

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 12:09 PM

Is it possible to bind nump - ?

Dune 31-Oct-19 12:10 PM

nump?

settings > controls. try it :)

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 12:11 PM

oke thanks

Souly 31-Oct-19 01:13 PM

jxsl13 31-Oct-19 01:48 PM

numpad keys are kp0 kp1...

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 01:49 PM

yea i know now xD

Rimso 31-Oct-19 01:49 PM

How can I remove the password server in the consol (F2) ?

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 01:50 PM

password ""

jxsl13 31-Oct-19 01:50 PM

so that everyone can log into rcon or so that nobody can log knto rcon x)?

into

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 01:50 PM

he means join the server

thats why he writed password server xD

jxsl13 31-Oct-19 01:51 PM

he wrote f2

ah

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 01:51 PM

xD

jxsl13 31-Oct-19 01:51 PM

meaning to write the password into f2 to disable the server password

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 01:51 PM

si

jxsl13 31-Oct-19 01:52 PM

doesn't make sense to do it that way, because one should actually configure that in the server config. but yeah it's the same as in the server config sv_password I guess (edited)

Rimso 31-Oct-19 01:52 PM

my english is bad sorry x)

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 01:52 PM

not sv_password xD

jxsl13 31-Oct-19 01:53 PM

isn't the server pw called sv_password?

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 01:53 PM

nah only password

jxsl13 31-Oct-19 01:53 PM

wow, consistency

not there

Trafalgar Law 31-Oct-19 01:54 PM

https://i.imgur.com/aneHBBH.png

jxsl13 31-Oct-19 01:54 PM

simply lol

fokkonaut 31-Oct-19 01:58 PM

its called password because it is a clientside and serverside command

jxsl13 31-Oct-19 02:01 PM

kinda lol

Racer 31-Oct-19 04:45 PM

Joined the server.

Rimso 31-Oct-19 06:06 PM

can we save the vote option in a file and reload it after server reboot?

fokkonaut 31-Oct-19 06:13 PM

yes

put them in your autoexec.cfg

Dune 31-Oct-19 06:17 PM

@Rimso you mean, edit the .cfg from rcon?

Rimso 31-Oct-19 06:20 PM

no, I want to save the all votes after reboot

fokkonaut 31-Oct-19 06:20 PM

https://discordapp.com/channels/407308363031117832/407308363031117834/639512467466223626

just write it in your file

add_vote " blablab la"

Rimso 31-Oct-19 06:23 PM

ah ok, so simple thank you

fokkonaut 31-Oct-19 06:23 PM

np

TNT 01-Nov-19 12:13 PM

hello, is it possible to calculate a new value in the console ?

something like 10 + 5 ?

thestyxcode 01-Nov-19 12:14 PM

could be

Trafalgar Law 01-Nov-19 12:15 PM

Nah i think not never seen a calculater in teeworlds

thestyxcode 01-Nov-19 12:15 PM

"legends say he is still spinning" - Dude on steam lol

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but the scores are all adding/ subtracting in modes like ctf, dm etc

TNT 01-Nov-19 12:16 PM

ok ... cause it could be fun to have the tee's color which evolve hours after hours !

Trafalgar Law 01-Nov-19 12:16 PM

I miss the rainbow tee ;-;

@Dune add it

thestyxcode 01-Nov-19 12:17 PM

i think thats basically whats happening in zcatch isn't it?

just at certain events

and those events could be set like every 5 min change the hue +5 or smth

right?

yavl 01-Nov-19 12:58 PM

Why no one hosts LMS servers. Such a good tactical vanilla game mode

Where tactics matters more than skill

Xd

Assa 01-Nov-19 01:04 PM

some would say that tactics are a part of skill

nobody is playing it because nobody is playing it

i would play it if others would play it

yavl 01-Nov-19 01:54 PM

If you would play it others would play it too (edited)

Trafalgar Law 01-Nov-19 03:47 PM

Why the fuck love they all Multimap?? We need new player's ;-;

https://i.imgur.com/qPc1UQp.png

lul i writed here and now my server gets a ddos

Nice

https://i.imgur.com/fuKgMUU.png Bad boy who did this

ᵉᵐᵖᵗʸ 01-Nov-19 04:31 PM

Joined the server.

n000b 01-Nov-19 05:27 PM

@ChillerDragon ddnet needs 0.7 server to catch up with those nobo's on multimap.

Trafalgar Law 01-Nov-19 05:28 PM

Hey hey hey I'm not a noob

ChillerDragon 01-Nov-19 05:46 PM

well this multimap server is basically ddnet 0.7 @n000b xd

Fauconami 01-Nov-19 06:11 PM

Joined the server.

Fauconami 01-Nov-19 06:19 PM

CC

FR

n000b 01-Nov-19 06:39 PM

@ChillerDragon but not ddnet xD

ChillerDragon 01-Nov-19 06:48 PM

it might not be the official hoster but its the official modification

n000b 01-Nov-19 06:57 PM

Ah nice

Sneak 01-Nov-19 07:18 PM

Joined the server.

Hey guys

I'm searching for a client with the same anti-ping as ddnet got but for 0.7

and smthg to turn off entities

If you could help me it would be a pleasure

Dune 01-Nov-19 07:33 PM

No one ported the antiping client yet. My client (gamer) lets you turn off entities, it's not the only one now tho

ReiTW 01-Nov-19 07:45 PM

@n000b ddnet is shit

ChillerDragon 01-Nov-19 07:58 PM

@Sneak ZillyWoods tried to reproduce ddnet client. It has ddnet entities but sadly no antiping yet :/ https://zillywoods.github.io/ZillyWoods-web/

Sneak 01-Nov-19 08:18 PM

alright, thanks guys!

jxsl13 01-Nov-19 10:10 PM

I'm highly against centralized hosting like ddnet does. It's only good for areas like america, where nearly nobody is hosting anything. 0.5 had no ddnet and it was great, every little motivated home server hoster had ppl on their server even tho the connection was crap. best times ever. decentralization is king.

ReiTW 01-Nov-19 10:21 PM

yeah

ChillerDragon 01-Nov-19 11:30 PM

Decentralized is nice yea. But crappy connections aren’t. Also the consistency that comes with one network is nice. Especially for number nerds who want to know what their best times are. I started like 3 times from scratch to collect zCatch stats because a new hoster/database appeared. It just feels a bit useless to even start collecting those stats.

mohsen7s 02-Nov-19 07:17 AM

Joined the server.

Assa 02-Nov-19 01:11 PM

data crawling is not trivial @ChillerDragon

ChillerDragon 02-Nov-19 03:14 PM

wdym @Assa ?

Souly 02-Nov-19 07:03 PM

new zillywoods client version lags a lot :/

it has dummy and other new cool things but the lag

Rimso 02-Nov-19 07:17 PM

I'm using it but I dont see lags

Souly 02-Nov-19 07:26 PM

weird

i got kinda big input lag

the game doesnt work smooth either

ChillerDragon 02-Nov-19 09:31 PM

Yes @Souly when the dummy is connected it it can get very laggy :/

Souly 02-Nov-19 10:19 PM

and now not only it shoots when changing

it sometimes jumps, changes weapons

im disappointed

ChillerDragon 02-Nov-19 10:31 PM

jeez im not a wizard i hardly understood what i did its a miracle it even connects xd

Trafalgar Law 02-Nov-19 10:32 PM

@ChillerDragon :mad:

ChillerDragon 02-Nov-19 10:32 PM

:/

Souly 02-Nov-19 10:46 PM

@ChillerDragon sry if what i wrote felt rude

i didnt mean to >.<

its great that someone does something in 0.7

keep it up

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heinrich5991 02-Nov-19 10:50 PM

ChillerDragon 02-Nov-19 10:56 PM

omg @heinrich5991 did u pm him and said he should be nice? xd

heinrich5991 02-Nov-19 10:57 PM

no

ChillerDragon 02-Nov-19 10:57 PM

would be a classical mr nice guy heinrich move

no offense

Assa 02-Nov-19 10:58 PM

no, but I did

ChillerDragon 02-Nov-19 10:58 PM

xd

im still not too sure if forced peace is real peace :/

Assa 02-Nov-19 10:59 PM

I will bring world peace with force

ChillerDragon 02-Nov-19 10:59 PM

yikes

Souly 02-Nov-19 11:23 PM

jxsl13 02-Nov-19 11:24 PM

showing off his swag emotes :'(

Souly 02-Nov-19 11:25 PM

i love this

i should make some tw emotes

with my ~~ugly~~ skin

Souly 03-Nov-19 12:48 AM

Assa 03-Nov-19 12:50 AM

i get seizures from this <.<

Souly 03-Nov-19 01:16 AM

@Assa wanna see something better?

Iman 03-Nov-19 02:01 AM

i already got an invisible tee bug with 5.4 gamer client in race maps @Assa

some ppl i talked to told me it was a knowed thing but idk

Souly 03-Nov-19 02:02 AM

wtf

@Iman send screen shot

Iman 03-Nov-19 02:05 AM

i cant right now, i didn't keep those screenshots and i cant redo it ppl are playing on the race server where invisible tee bug happened

and i must sleep

so good night

Souly 03-Nov-19 02:06 AM

~~thank god that im not using gamer client~~

Assa 03-Nov-19 02:21 AM

invisible bug

crosshair is there, but Tee not

it's not only gamer client <.<

Souly 03-Nov-19 02:56 AM

i played on original, zillywoods and some zombie client (i don't remember the name) and its first time i see this

ReiTW 03-Nov-19 02:59 AM

not a bug for me

a feature :v)

redix 03-Nov-19 02:59 AM

The invisible tee thing probably only appears on the race test server. There was some bug but it should be fixed in the latest master (edited)

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About the dummy thing... Implementing the dummy feature by just duplicating most variables is really ugly. It's rather impressive that it works at all. The structure of the tw client is just not designed for this.

Either you implement it severside or you restructure the whole client to make it work properly

Souly 03-Nov-19 03:22 AM

Assa 03-Nov-19 10:06 AM

@redix thank you for informing that this is a server related issue

Deleted User 03-Nov-19 11:47 AM

Joined the server.

hi

Souly 03-Nov-19 02:05 PM

Sneak 03-Nov-19 02:05 PM

Hey guys! As we did it last year, we would like to organise a new gctf tournament but in 0.7. I'm here to search some help about some devs, server hosters or everything that can help us in our project. Here was our discord for the last year https://discord.gg/dT5DQSq We had some problems with the "anti-cheat" client that was abit laggy and controversed because it wasn't open source before the beginning of the tourn ect... If you wanna help or got any competences in tournament organisation please dm me. Cash prizes of the last tourn was : First 150€ Second 100€ Third 30€ Btw it's a gctf tournament (edited)

Souly 03-Nov-19 02:05 PM

hmm

Sneak 03-Nov-19 02:06 PM

Once again, Corp is the main organisator

Trafalgar Law 03-Nov-19 02:06 PM

I could host the server

Iman 03-Nov-19 02:06 PM

303 € for the third place wow

Trafalgar Law 03-Nov-19 02:06 PM

xDD

Sneak 03-Nov-19 02:07 PM

Thanks @Iman

Dune 03-Nov-19 02:24 PM

@Sneak i tried to do anticheat stuff client side in 0.6, it doesn't work because you can mitm attack or simply inject code

Assa 03-Nov-19 02:29 PM

@Dune @Sneak sign me in, i play with whatever client you want

Trafalgar Law 03-Nov-19 02:29 PM

xD

@Assa = bad

= freewin

Assa 03-Nov-19 02:29 PM

1o1, now!

Trafalgar Law 03-Nov-19 02:29 PM

No thanks

Assa 03-Nov-19 02:30 PM

mimimimimi

Trafalgar Law 03-Nov-19 02:30 PM

nah

Sneak 03-Nov-19 02:41 PM

@Dune can you share your work with us ? @Trafalgar Law how many servs can u host ?

Dune 03-Nov-19 02:42 PM

That was 0.6 and there are injection-based cheats that already beat it

Trafalgar Law 03-Nov-19 02:42 PM

How many do you need?

Sneak 03-Nov-19 02:43 PM

3 would be enough

Dune 03-Nov-19 02:43 PM

I can write it for 0.7 but that's probably just going to encourage people to break it, which isn't hard

Trafalgar Law 03-Nov-19 02:43 PM

yea thats possible Sneak

Sneak 03-Nov-19 02:43 PM

Thanks!

@Dune let it go, we'll just try to check it by hand since there's no public 0.7 bot yet

Dune 03-Nov-19 02:45 PM

Really, short of rewriting server and client, the best way to spot cheaters is just to observe

Sneak 03-Nov-19 02:46 PM

Kinda hard in nades mode

Dune 03-Nov-19 02:46 PM

I know ^^'

Sneak 03-Nov-19 02:46 PM

Thanks guys :)

Dune 03-Nov-19 02:47 PM

Cool to hear about your tournament tho, I'll try to make it :)

Sneak 03-Nov-19 02:48 PM

We still didn't decide of the date but probably a week-end in the winter's school holidays

Dune 03-Nov-19 02:51 PM

Christmas is always the time of the year with the most people online

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Trexus 03-Nov-19 06:29 PM

Joined the server.

hi

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Trexus 03-Nov-19 06:37 PM

@Sneak

hi

Trexus 03-Nov-19 07:52 PM

who wantto join tx city server it is a city will open soon

https://discord.gg/neCT22r

LordSk 03-Nov-19 08:17 PM

What's a "city server"?

jxsl13 03-Nov-19 08:47 PM

<- best city player

Trafalgar Law 03-Nov-19 09:12 PM

City is boring af xD

You are just leveling and stand afk

And then you are cool when you are level 300 xD

Iman 03-Nov-19 09:20 PM

city is chit-chat game

btw zcatch best mod, zcatch>all (edited)

jxsl13 03-Nov-19 09:45 PM

I propose a life ban against @Iman

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6

Iman 03-Nov-19 09:50 PM

no ;-;

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Iman 03-Nov-19 10:06 PM

why

Souly 04-Nov-19 01:04 PM

Dune 04-Nov-19 11:10 PM

@Sneak when are you coming up with a date for the gctf tourney?

Sneak 04-Nov-19 11:12 PM

This week-end

Gotta do the graphics and the logos for it this week

Then we'll annunce

Assa 04-Nov-19 11:23 PM

you want to do it this weekend?

Iman 04-Nov-19 11:36 PM

no XD

he will annouce it this W-E X)

Assa 05-Nov-19 10:47 AM

ah it's the date of the date reveal <.<

Assa 05-Nov-19 11:40 AM

@ChillerDragon fast cap feature on ctf broken again

and I am banned from the command system (for how long?)

ChillerDragon 05-Nov-19 04:04 PM

@Assa yikes :/ Thanks for the report :) Any steps to reproduce? Oh and I think the ban is only 1 Minute.

Assa 05-Nov-19 04:04 PM

it's updated now, so idk <.<

ChillerDragon 05-Nov-19 04:05 PM

So now it worked?

Should work since a few days if not weeks already

Assa 05-Nov-19 04:13 PM

it's not updated directly

if i fastcap and check /rank_flags my old time is shown

ChillerDragon 05-Nov-19 06:11 PM

@Assa i think thats expected. As far as i know only killing sprees are saved directly and all other stats only on disconnect or round end.

Assa 05-Nov-19 06:12 PM

before you check the database you could check your local server data

ChillerDragon 05-Nov-19 06:12 PM

True

Anyways saving flag time directly would be save too. Or someone else could overwrite your record with a worse improvement :/ (edited)

Assa 05-Nov-19 06:14 PM

or i could overwrite it myself with a worse better cap <.<

ChillerDragon 05-Nov-19 08:28 PM

Well not with one client @Assa it will save the best cap during your sessions so you need to be on the 0.6 and 0.7 at the same time or two times with same name on the 0.7 server. It wont fail if you normally fast cap and nobody uses the same name during that time. (edited)

Blackeyemon 06-Nov-19 08:15 PM

Joined the server.

FerZ 07-Nov-19 12:02 AM

Joined the server.

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:00 PM

hello, I just want to run my own teeworlds server, but when I try to join it in lan, it says 'invalid standard map', any ideas on how to fix it? (edited)

it's on 0.7.3.1

client from teeworlds.com (edited)

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:07 PM

@Tonixe what is your config, what map are you configuring it to?

it seems like you are using 0.6 maps somehow

that is an easy fix

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:08 PM

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:08 PM

I mean, what's your config

What's the .cfg you start your server with (edited)

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:08 PM

he needs your .cfg

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:09 PM

well that's the thing there is no config like autoexec.cfg

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:09 PM

so you are running it with no config

then it defaults to dm1

I don't know where you got the server binaries, but somehow you got 0.6 maps

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:10 PM

these maps in my screenshot are 0.6 maps?

xD

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:10 PM

Where did you downloaded the server files?

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:11 PM

wdym? I only downloaded the client nothing else

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:11 PM

Ah my bad thought you running on linux

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:12 PM

I use win

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:12 PM

Hm you could try an other map

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:12 PM

where do I chose that? I see no autoexec file

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:13 PM

@Tonixe still, where did you download the server files?

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:13 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSfeGuY0khM Look this vid then you can run the server with your .cfg (edited)

Nico

Teeworlds 0.6.1 Server erstellen mit Mods (DDRace, zCatch) [HD]

In diesem Tutorial zeige ich euch wie ihr einen Server erstellt und Mods benutzt. zCatch: http://cn-tw.square7.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=97 DDRace: h...

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:13 PM

just remove all the maps and launch the server again

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:13 PM

Its 0.6 but its should be the same like in 0.,7

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:14 PM

also where is is decided which maps will be used: is it data -> maps or config-directory -> maps

it*

@Dune I'm not exactly sure what you mean with server files

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:15 PM

data/maps

delete all maps what dune said

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:15 PM

alright

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:15 PM

and try to start the server again

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:16 PM

it should complain that it is missing dm1

what does it say?

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:16 PM

now the server doesnt even start to run

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:17 PM

makes sense

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:17 PM

ye

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:17 PM

your server is in a different folder than your client?

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:17 PM

nope I will send screen

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:17 PM

@Dune I think he downloaded the client and there is the _Srv file

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:18 PM

then copy your client maps to the server data/maps folder

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:18 PM

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:18 PM

Yea

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:18 PM

@Trafalgar Law he has a different folder where he put the srv and that folder was probably 0.6 :)

Trafalgar Law 07-Nov-19 07:18 PM

Nah look his screen

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:19 PM

@DarkOort https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds-maps/raw/master/dm1.map this goes in your config directory or in data/maps

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:20 PM

alright I'll try it

I will also delete the maps in my config directory

it worked

I can play on the server now

thanks

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:22 PM

:)

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:23 PM

well somehow when I deleted the maps in config it also deleted it in my ddnet client

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:23 PM

that was your problem: you had 0.6 files from ddnet

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:24 PM

was what I was thinking too

but why is there no autoexec file

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:24 PM

that's normal

you have to create it

autoexec.cfg

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:25 PM

on ddnet it had it already with some default settings available etc and a little guide in it

could be handy for 0.7 aswell I guess

Dune 07-Nov-19 07:26 PM

our guides lies at https://teeworlds.com/?page=help

but I agree we should ship with an autoexec.cfg :)

so many things to do

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 07:27 PM

yes..

btw I recently compiled 0.7.3.1 with the help of assa, it took us 2 hours xd, but now I see when I try to run the server there, it also doesnt work and that is probably because I see no folder named 'maps' in data xD

Dune 07-Nov-19 08:30 PM

git submodule init @Tonixe

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 08:48 PM

@Dune I played on my self-compiled client and recorded some demos but I can't rewatch them

any ideas how to fix it, because they are really important for some people (edited)

It just crashes (closes) Teeworlds when I try to watch them (edited)

Dune 07-Nov-19 09:09 PM

Are you sure you compiled 0.7.3 and not master/trunk?

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 09:16 PM

well I actually compiled the teeworlds-master

Assa 07-Nov-19 09:17 PM

he compiled the lastest version, so master/trunk

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 09:17 PM

like the link from your teeworlds.com guide

I really need those demos :((

Assa 07-Nov-19 09:21 PM

try watching with old client

or wait for update (:

if neither works it's broken and you have to write a converter yourself, basically you're screwed

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 09:22 PM

I mean the demos should also be watchable for other ppl

I need to send them

Assa 07-Nov-19 09:23 PM

you probably have to watch the demo on your client and record the szene with another software

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 09:25 PM

ye

well thats the first step, watch it on my own client

Assa 07-Nov-19 09:35 PM

workaround: send all players who want to watch it your client

Dune 07-Nov-19 10:02 PM

@Tonixe compile 0.7.3.1 instead

Demos are compatibility broken until 0.7.4 at least

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 10:10 PM

@Dune why should I compile it?

Dune 07-Nov-19 10:11 PM

well, if you want a client with working demos, don't use the (unstable) development version (edited)

Tonixe 07-Nov-19 10:31 PM

Ok

Dune 07-Nov-19 10:39 PM

git checkout 0.7.3.1 for the last stable version

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 11:17 AM

Oh demos are broken? I based my client on latest master and released it :/ @Dune isn’t that what you did as well?

Dune 08-Nov-19 11:17 AM

Yeah

Demos compatibility isn't good at the moment

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2230

Incompatible demos · Issue #2230 · teeworlds/teeworlds

The PR #2129 changed the format of the snapshots. For the client-server communication this does not matter, since the protocol only uses snapshot deltas. The demos however, use complete snapshots f...

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 11:20 AM

Is it planned to break? Or will it be compatible in the next version again?

Ah i see your comment

@Dune so we both distribute clients that create broken demos? Sounds bad.

Dune 08-Nov-19 11:21 AM

feel free to fix it :p

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 11:21 AM

Yikes

I failed hello world homework at university... im not sure if I’m the person for the job

LordSk 08-Nov-19 11:41 AM

or we could revert the change temporarily

Dune 08-Nov-19 11:42 AM

I think that would be wise

LordSk 08-Nov-19 11:42 AM

It is the easy solution

R41NB0W 08-Nov-19 12:38 PM

Joined the server.

redix 08-Nov-19 12:39 PM

Maybe I find some time to fix it in the next few days

5

The demo player needs some validation code for the snapshots anyway. Right now it's pretty easy to at least crash the client (edited)

LordSk 08-Nov-19 12:42 PM

How about when playing? Can weird snapshots crash the client?

redix 08-Nov-19 12:44 PM

Network protocol uses snapshot diffs. These are checked properly.

LordSk 08-Nov-19 12:44 PM

Alright

redix 08-Nov-19 12:45 PM

It's at least not as easy as with full snaps

LordSk 08-Nov-19 12:45 PM

Why not?

redix 08-Nov-19 12:46 PM

The snapshots are just copied into the buffer and used without any checking

They are usually only used internally so that's not a problem. But it wasn't a good idea to store them in demos

LordSk 08-Nov-19 12:49 PM

I agree

redix 08-Nov-19 12:50 PM

The network protocol starts with a diff from an empty snap. Demos should use this for keyframes aswell

Dune 08-Nov-19 12:50 PM

use what, a diff?

redix 08-Nov-19 12:50 PM

Yes

Dune 08-Nov-19 12:50 PM

muh compatibility :/

redix 08-Nov-19 12:50 PM

Yep

Dune 08-Nov-19 12:51 PM

is it really worth breaking yet another compatibility to have something that works cleaner under the hood

redix 08-Nov-19 12:51 PM

So for now converting and validating the snapshot is probably better

Dune 08-Nov-19 12:51 PM

converting? ah, into the optimized version

it's a problem both for read and write right

redix 08-Nov-19 12:52 PM

Yes

LordSk 08-Nov-19 12:53 PM

Or we could revert it for now and push this change to 0.8

And think about how to do it properly then?

redix 08-Nov-19 12:54 PM

Well... Converting mostly means dropping the keys at the beginning when writing and getting them from the items when reading (edited)

LordSk 08-Nov-19 12:55 PM

Well I clearly won't stop you if you want to implement it

I'm just thinking

Dune 08-Nov-19 12:56 PM

I think if we want something to be improved waiting for 0.8 is not a good idea :p

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LordSk 08-Nov-19 12:56 PM

If you can make it work with the current version that would be great!

Is there a version number though?

Nevermind actually

the demo format would not change

redix 08-Nov-19 12:59 PM

0.7 already has some hacky changes... thinking about the skin change

one more would be okay I think

Dune 08-Nov-19 12:59 PM

yeah

redix 08-Nov-19 01:01 PM

Btw... The chat still has some seldom overlapping bug. On another machine I also noticed some flickering in the chat when the scoreboard is open. I fixed the overlapping bug but I cannot reproduce the flickering on my laptop

Dune 08-Nov-19 01:02 PM

resizing a chat box when a scoreboard is opened sounds absurd to me :/

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redix 08-Nov-19 01:02 PM

Anybody knows whether these two things appear at the same time?

Dune 08-Nov-19 01:02 PM

huh, chat and scoreboard?

redix 08-Nov-19 01:03 PM

Flickering and overlapping

Dune 08-Nov-19 01:03 PM

never experienced flickering

LordSk 08-Nov-19 01:03 PM

TextWidth is inaccurate

redix 08-Nov-19 01:03 PM

In general both only appear with scoreboard and chat opened

Problem with overlapping is that the size of the chat is cached but it can actually change when the scoreboard gets bigger

I don't experience the flickering with 60hz. But it was visible with 144hz =\

LordSk 08-Nov-19 01:08 PM

What if you limit fps to 30?

Even then having it change size every other frame is weird

redix 08-Nov-19 01:09 PM

Can't check since I don't have a 144hz screen right now

There was someone else with the same issue I think

@jxsl13 you maybe?

Btw why is textwidth inaccurate?

Everywhere else it works pretty good

LordSk 08-Nov-19 01:15 PM

It works ok for what it does, but it does not actually represent the text width

redix 08-Nov-19 01:15 PM

Hmm okay

LordSk 08-Nov-19 01:16 PM

If you want to see what I mean, draw a box of length textwidth then modify the TextShadowed function to have no texture

So you only see the quads rendered

But that may not be related to the flickering

Dune 08-Nov-19 01:35 PM

I have a 144Hz monitor :/

redix 08-Nov-19 01:47 PM

It does not happen very often. Noticed this a few times when there was a lot of text in the chat.

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 01:49 PM

Oh yea i also saw a few overlappings latley i assumed it was my messed up client xd

redix 08-Nov-19 01:50 PM

To reproduce this: 1. something in chat that needs one line by default and two lines cropped

2. scoreboard needs a certain size: 5 players works for example

3. open scoreboard

4. at the same time open the expanded chat

question would be whether the flickering appears in this case

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 01:54 PM

what version are you using? I think the flickering was fixed already

redix 08-Nov-19 01:55 PM

not latest master but not too old

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 01:55 PM

try master for flickering

but i can reproduce the overlapping with my client based on master

redix 08-Nov-19 01:55 PM

couldn't reproduce it on my laptop

will try next week

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 01:56 PM

I remember the flickering too good i also had it on my 60hz screen

redix 08-Nov-19 01:56 PM

i'll submit a pr for the overlapping later

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ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 01:56 PM

im currently on 144 i think and it works fine

redix 08-Nov-19 01:56 PM

okay. maybe my build was really too old =\

Dune 08-Nov-19 01:57 PM

Got some progress on client-side race perks btw? :D

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 01:57 PM

Omg do we have christmas already?

starbucks started pumping xmas music :/

redix 08-Nov-19 01:57 PM

wanted to finish this weeks ago

most stuff works... some ui fine tuning is still needed

basic stuff* no advanced things

since ddnet has plans for 0.7 now: any important race feature that would be useful there? right now it's basic stuff like: - times in scoreboard - checkpoints - timer - finish messages - times in the serverbrowser

i'm not sure about the finish messages yet. for pure race finish messages in chat are really annoying so i replaced the kill messages with finish messages

for ddrace this is different i think since finishes dont happen that frequently there and kills might also be of interest (edited)

Dune 08-Nov-19 02:10 PM

@redix looks good and I think that is fine. If a server wants the chat message they can add it manually and redundantly with the killmessages

redix 08-Nov-19 02:11 PM

You are right about the chat messages. But with the current implementation kill messages are completely disabled on race

Would be cool to be able to display both types of messages and the server decides what to show (edited)

Trexus 08-Nov-19 02:16 PM

https://discord.gg/neCT22r

teeworld town

city

will be opened soon

be the first player @everyone

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 02:54 PM

@Trexus seems like it is a 0.6 server :/

Trexus 08-Nov-19 03:09 PM

@ChillerDragon hmm it is latest version server

do u want to join it

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 03:10 PM

this discord advertises 0.6 clients tho

jxsl13 08-Nov-19 03:31 PM

I have that flickering stuff all the time on my 60hz monitor.

just hold scoreboard while looking at the chat triggered it, I guess.

implies that if you don't look it doesn't flicker. (Schrödinger?)

redix 08-Nov-19 04:36 PM

Does it happen all the time or only sometimes? When you see it next time make a screenshot

I cannot reproduce it right now

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 05:08 PM

a screenshot of flickering? xd

redix 08-Nov-19 05:18 PM

I need example chat messages to reproduce it. A screenshot would work for this

ChillerDragon 08-Nov-19 05:21 PM

For the overlapping? Just check out the zcatch server

it tends to spit out suitable lengths to break it

redix 08-Nov-19 05:26 PM

Yeah. My example above is from zcatch But I'm searching for an example to reproduce the flickering

fokkonaut 08-Nov-19 05:28 PM

@redix please dont force a DDrace server to use the score format

time*

For example my server gametype is F-DDrace, so it includes "DDrace", but I use the normal score format

with points instead of a time

redix 08-Nov-19 05:34 PM

it will be based on a game-flag, so you can decide. but i'd still suggest to use times. you can also configure how many decimals should be displayed (edited)

Dune 08-Nov-19 05:35 PM

there's never going to be string detection of gametype, that's really ugly =p

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fokkonaut 08-Nov-19 05:36 PM

good

fokkonaut 08-Nov-19 06:13 PM

short question

can gameflags be updated without restart?

I guess yes

RoLIK 09-Nov-19 10:39 AM

Joined the server.

Sneak 09-Nov-19 12:25 PM

Hey, we'll announce all the infos needed about our tournament this afternoon on this discord : get ready :) https://discord.gg/UQPUtTr

Dune 09-Nov-19 12:26 PM

At what time is it? :)

Sneak 09-Nov-19 12:31 PM

As I said we'll announce it this afternoon, 2-3pm I guess

Dune 09-Nov-19 12:34 PM

ah, I thought the tournament took place this afternoon, my bad

n000b 09-Nov-19 12:35 PM

Lol

Terrorka (Tetra) 09-Nov-19 08:39 PM

Joined the server.

Why can't I connect to my server? The port is open, the server is running, register 1, what is wrong? (It is not in the list, you can connect locally)

Dune 09-Nov-19 08:42 PM

you can't connect to a localhost server?

Terrorka (Tetra) 09-Nov-19 08:42 PM

No

I can connect to localhost

so what? Any ideas?

Trafalgar Law 09-Nov-19 08:55 PM

I translate

I dont know

Terrorka (Tetra) 09-Nov-19 08:56 PM

@Trafalgar Law In Russian please?

I start it, it starts, I go to it through Local, everything is super. But he is not in the Global

Trafalgar Law 09-Nov-19 08:58 PM

https://tenor.com/view/choo-choo-gif-7862671

choo choo

Thats in Russian @Terrorka (Tetra)

Terrorka (Tetra) 09-Nov-19 08:58 PM

Внимаю

Актуальная в стиме - 7.3

Zombie WAVE! (edited)

Dune 09-Nov-19 09:05 PM

This channel is english-only

a gerdoe 09-Nov-19 09:14 PM

Joined the server.

okey

1

my bad

1

FerZ 09-Nov-19 09:17 PM

ok ma bed

@a gerdoe Are you russian

a gerdoe 09-Nov-19 09:19 PM

yeah

FerZ 09-Nov-19 09:19 PM

wow

heinrich5991 09-Nov-19 11:43 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) 0.7? which IP address?

Dune 10-Nov-19 12:58 AM

I think I was able to join his server

heinrich5991 10-Nov-19 01:02 AM

it's normal that you don't see your own server in the server browser in the internet tab

if that was the only problem

(and that you can't connect to it using your public IP address)

Dune 10-Nov-19 01:03 AM

why wouldn't Internet include LAN btw?

!🎃ΛXΣL🎃 10-Nov-19 06:21 AM

Joined the server.

Hello everyone! I wanted to ask you a question ... To create servers in GLOBAL, how is it done? Thank you.

In the cmd he told me to go to that supposed page to enter the Discord server, I thought it was to edit your server.

I'm not in such a hurry, answer when you can. Thank you.

ChillerDragon 10-Nov-19 09:49 AM

@!🎃ΛXΣL🎃 so what do you want to do? Run a teeworlds server? Who is he? What cmd? What server do you want to edit?

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 11:06 AM

Joined the server.

Hey, it's me again, why don't I keep a couple dozen servers at once! Why is my ddrace server visible only in the ddrace client?

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:14 AM

So you use 0.6

You can't access 0.6 servers with 0.7 Teeworlds

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 11:15 AM

...

And what should I do, is there a ddrace server for 0.7+ (edited)

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:16 AM

Yes, there are such servers

ddnet is still 0.6

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 11:16 AM

Ahhh, damn me moron!

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:17 AM

Don't blame yourself, it can be confusing :)

There are porting efforts for ddnet afaik, but I'm not well aware of these things

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 11:19 AM

Thank you, I will try to run the maximum of servers that my network can hold. Please leave the modes that may be of interest to people

)))

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:20 AM

I would advise just to play 0.7 Teeworlds and see by yourself

That's me :)

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 11:21 AM

I have been playing Tee since 2010 (ubuntu 9.04) But I have never once climbed into the server and source code))

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:22 AM

heh. I think the Teeworlds source code is, for the most part, rather nice to get in

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 11:23 AM

.... but not for the person who teaches assembler and python

How to make MOTD? Have instructions?

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 11:42 AM

Jesus! There were 4/4 players on my server! (edited)

@Dune Thanks for the instruction [MOD] Simple DDRace (0.7.2)

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:45 AM

@Terrorka (Tetra) server settings are there: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_settings

sv_motd Message of the day, shown in server info and when joining a server

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 11:46 AM

Already found, here all the same thanks ddnet for autoexec

))

Now I keep 3 servers, I just need to start the 2nd computer and port it all to linux

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 11:59 AM

I will cry now teeworlds: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (edited)

ChillerDragon 10-Nov-19 12:03 PM

There are ddrace servers for 0.7 already

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet7 its still a wip but it does something

https://github.com/AssassinTee/teeworlds_clanwar

DDNet port to TW 0.7. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet7 development by creating an account on GitHub.

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 12:05 PM

I already did everything, thanks

fokkonaut 10-Nov-19 12:09 PM

@ChillerDragon u

my mod

hehe

Kruzyaka 10-Nov-19 02:16 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 04:30 PM

can i help to rus players in non-eng block like this?

/* rus block soмe shit end block */

(edited)

Dune 10-Nov-19 04:31 PM

Sorry, this is an english channel, so that everyone can understand. If you want to help someone in russian, private message

(or if it's exceptional)

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 04:32 PM

but u deleted my normal eng messages...

with info about that

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 04:33 PM

You can use spoilers or something similar

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 04:33 PM

cannot

@Dune wrote that

Dune Sorry, this is an english channel, so that everyone can understand. If you want to help someone in russian, private message

(edited)

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 04:36 PM

So I'm talking about duplicating text in the case of other languages -Hi! Spoiler: Привет (edited)

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 04:36 PM

that looks like double message -> spam

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 04:37 PM

Look, that's what I'm talking about. Смотри, вот о чем я говорю

This is not spam)) Это уже не спам))

@Dune Can we afford it? Мы можем себе это позволить? (edited)

Dune 10-Nov-19 04:43 PM

duplicate is fine :) sorry for deleting english messages, I deleted the block

Terrorka (Tetra) 10-Nov-19 04:44 PM

Great, now you can use phrases that the translator cannot translate! Супер, теперь можно использовать фразы которые не может перевести переводчик!

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 06:11 PM

but u must stop translate every word

no sense here

Dune 10-Nov-19 06:12 PM

use PMs then

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 06:13 PM

okey

Lagaffe 10-Nov-19 06:24 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 10-Nov-19 06:36 PM

Trying to incorporate ammo in a healthbar for my own modification. I really dislike having to look at the corner for HUD :/

jxsl13 10-Nov-19 07:28 PM

bind to space, who even uses space instead of either awsd or arrow keys?

Trafalgar Law 10-Nov-19 07:29 PM

dune your skin looks pissed af

jxsl13 10-Nov-19 07:29 PM

it looks like a programmer after a good night of coding xD

Dune 10-Nov-19 07:31 PM

I was experimenting with yellow vs dark blue team colors

LittleDish 10-Nov-19 08:00 PM

Joined the server.

Souly 10-Nov-19 08:48 PM

Need more sleep

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 09:15 PM

@Dune mb somebody wants to make new gui like that

Dune 10-Nov-19 09:16 PM

wow that is really big

but it does solve the problem somewhat :)

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 09:16 PM

first variation isnt good

Dune 10-Nov-19 09:38 PM

It shouldn't be difficult to port this, I think flags need some refinement though

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 10:27 PM

huh?

how u think those flags must be?

and one more question (edited)

can teeworlds have svg tile/skin/hud system?

because screenshots with zoom look too badly

Dune 10-Nov-19 10:34 PM

not without very big changes

a gerdoe 10-Nov-19 10:36 PM

thats it

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:06 PM

@Assa I wrote that gctf modification, wanna check it out?

Assa 10-Nov-19 11:06 PM

ofc ^^

ip? :p

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:06 PM

haven't opened my port so I'd need someone to host it

Assa 10-Nov-19 11:06 PM

i can't host any servers right now :C

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:06 PM

err ok

Assa 10-Nov-19 11:06 PM

@Trafalgar Law ?

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:07 PM

err I actually modified vanilla to see the physics, it's not a gctf mod

Assa 10-Nov-19 11:07 PM

does it work good?

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:07 PM

seems like it

it's 5 lines of diff I can port that elsewhere

Assa 10-Nov-19 11:08 PM

just vector+= stuff?

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:08 PM

yeah

you know a gctf repo that can easily be built?

Assa 10-Nov-19 11:09 PM

yeah, mine

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:09 PM

cool, link? (edited)

Assa 10-Nov-19 11:09 PM

AssassinTee/teeworlds_clanwar

1on1, 2on2, 3on3, etc server for ctf, gctf, ictf and others with chat commands - AssassinTee/teeworlds_clanwar

cmake and bam works ^^ it's just a very small diff

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:10 PM

which branch?

Assa 10-Nov-19 11:10 PM

master?

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:10 PM

ok :)

Assa 10-Nov-19 11:11 PM

I tend to do multiple repositories, instead of multiple branchs of the same

Dune 10-Nov-19 11:18 PM

sure

@Assa registered server

Dune 11-Nov-19 12:27 AM

--- a/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp +++ b/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp @@ -377,7 +377,7 @@ void CCharacter::FireWeapon() new CProjectile(GameWorld(), WEAPON_GRENADE, m_pPlayer->GetCID(), ProjStartPos, - Direction, + Direction+vec2(m_Core.m_Vel.x/g_Config.m_SvFactor, m_Core.m_Vel.y/g_Config.m_SvFactor), (int)(Server()->TickSpeed()*GameServer()->Tuning()->m_GrenadeLifetime), g_pData->m_Weapons.m_Grenade.m_pBase->m_Damage, true, 0, SOUND_GRENADE_EXPLODE, WEAPON_GRENADE);

@Assa :) (edited)

Assa 11-Nov-19 12:37 AM

n1

is factor 1 to strong?

ah, normalization is missing ^^

Dune 11-Nov-19 12:40 AM

Factor 125 is what I used

Normalization doesn't matter the factor is an arbitrary value

Deleted User 11-Nov-19 01:48 AM

Joined the server.

x6tence Simon 11-Nov-19 02:36 AM

Joined the server.

Trafalgar Law 11-Nov-19 06:36 AM

If you still want to test it, i could do this today

ChillerDragon 11-Nov-19 11:06 AM

yikes changing physiks hurts :/

Dune 11-Nov-19 11:39 AM

@Trafalgar Law what OS you run servers on, linux?

Trafalgar Law 11-Nov-19 11:53 AM

Linux ubuntu

Dune 11-Nov-19 12:22 PM

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=39726107263275182659 this is @Assa 's gCTF with that physics tweak (no config change or anything)

a gerdoe 11-Nov-19 01:18 PM

nice

jxsl13 11-Nov-19 03:08 PM

what's the purpose of that tweak?

Assa 11-Nov-19 03:27 PM

i guess more realism

and therefore a higher complexity

Iman 11-Nov-19 03:33 PM

i think that with higher factor it would be maybe less realistic but way more intuitive

for new players

Assa 11-Nov-19 06:11 PM

I am searching for a designer just for one little png

in teeworld style, anyone here?

jxsl13 11-Nov-19 08:29 PM

what exactly does it change in the physics?

some grenade tweaking?

Dune 11-Nov-19 08:29 PM

see diff above

jxsl13 11-Nov-19 08:30 PM

ah, based on ones velocity the grenade gains the same speed as well or how is that to be interpreted?

Dune 11-Nov-19 08:31 PM

yes

jxsl13 11-Nov-19 08:31 PM

I guess that would make grenade harder and maybe more fun and more skilled :D and more grenade > laser

Trafalgar Law 11-Nov-19 08:32 PM

laser > grenade

2

Dune 11-Nov-19 08:32 PM

my initial motivation was to kill flaggers

Trafalgar Law 11-Nov-19 08:32 PM

@Dune i want 1 1o1 vs you in gCTF

>:)

jxsl13 11-Nov-19 08:32 PM

? people carrying flag? by gaining speed and having a faster grenade speed then?

Dune 11-Nov-19 08:36 PM

@jxsl13 this punishes grenades thrown back to some extent

jxsl13 11-Nov-19 08:51 PM

hm, ok, but would also accelerate grenades thrown forward. kinda a double disadvantage for people carrying the flag.

Dune 11-Nov-19 08:58 PM

yes

this makes holding the flag scarier

Dune 11-Nov-19 11:02 PM

the server list I get on first load usually only has half servers; any refresh afterwards works fine. Anyone got the same?

Assa 11-Nov-19 11:13 PM

yes

Deleted User 12-Nov-19 01:44 AM

Joined the server.

Fudgy 12-Nov-19 02:38 AM

cant do doubles anymore with this I guess lol

Assa 12-Nov-19 11:47 AM

you can, sometimes easier, sometimes not at all

a gerdoe 12-Nov-19 02:37 PM

the server list I get on first load usually only has half servers; any refresh afterwards works fine. Anyone got the same?

half of russian community have it (edited)

leroy 12-Nov-19 04:08 PM

Joined the server.

𝕀 ℝ𝕒𝕧𝕖𝕟 12-Nov-19 07:11 PM

Joined the server.

FerZ 12-Nov-19 08:57 PM

Dune :D

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COURT 13-Nov-19 01:41 AM

Joined the server.

Iman 13-Nov-19 12:32 PM

i have the same about the first load of the server list (i live in France)

jxsl13 13-Nov-19 01:20 PM

Sushi is alive

Dune 13-Nov-19 01:21 PM

Is he?

jxsl13 13-Nov-19 01:22 PM

I have got a Github notificattion that he starred something

Dune 13-Nov-19 01:22 PM

I doubt he has time for Teeworlds ^^

jxsl13 13-Nov-19 01:22 PM

I guess yes :'/

he seems apparently into microcontroller stuff ;o

Dune 13-Nov-19 01:24 PM

who isn't ;)

jxsl13 13-Nov-19 01:24 PM

does somone love debugging linker errors ._.?

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a gerdoe 13-Nov-19 05:56 PM

ah

sushi is alive again

SeeEss 13-Nov-19 10:58 PM

hello everyone, my game is very buggy, the servers are not loading, I heard that it is ddos to the master server, when will it end? We must somehow deal with this ...

or as I understand it, everyone has already scored it?

ChillerDragon 13-Nov-19 11:35 PM

@SeeEss did you try updating to 0.7 ?

SeeEss 13-Nov-19 11:40 PM

no, need?

jxsl13 13-Nov-19 11:42 PM

on status.tw you can download a favorites list of all 0.6 servers. The ddos issue cannot be fixed, you can either download the favorites list for 0.6 and search through that list(filter etc should work there properly) or join 0.7, which has less of those but some other issues that might be fixed soon. (edited)

Dune 13-Nov-19 11:45 PM

@SeeEss the main reason behind the 0.7 release was the unpatchable vulnerabilities in 0.6. Yes, 0.6 is vulnerable

SeeEss 13-Nov-19 11:47 PM

that is, nothing can be done? if I want to play on 0.6.4. The only way to go to 0.7?

Dune 13-Nov-19 11:53 PM

0.6.5 only fixes the spam fake clients that flood servers. 0.7 fixes reflection attacks (or at least, largely mitigates them)

SeeEss 14-Nov-19 12:30 AM

@Dune thanks

:3

Deleted User 14-Nov-19 01:32 AM

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a gerdoe 14-Nov-19 05:24 AM

@SeeEss heya (edited)

🍀~Annyah~🍀 14-Nov-19 06:05 PM

Joined the server.

lmayo 14-Nov-19 09:09 PM

Joined the server.

Rilla 15-Nov-19 12:38 AM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 15-Nov-19 01:34 AM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 15-Nov-19 01:44 AM

rilla >:o

ROTONGA

Hawajek 15-Nov-19 04:37 PM

Joined the server.

Hawajek 15-Nov-19 07:14 PM

yo

sup

jxsl13 15-Nov-19 08:50 PM

pineapple!

Iman 15-Nov-19 08:52 PM

pen

Hawajek 15-Nov-19 09:09 PM

pineapple ❤️

Souly 15-Nov-19 09:52 PM

Hawajek 15-Nov-19 09:52 PM

;/ ;/ ;/ ;/

Deleted User 15-Nov-19 10:24 PM

guys if you see nameless tee then thats me

Iman 15-Nov-19 10:32 PM

no u

Hawajek 15-Nov-19 10:54 PM

no u

Deleted User 16-Nov-19 01:38 AM

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VLadik 16-Nov-19 05:15 PM

Joined the server.

Souly 16-Nov-19 05:59 PM

input spider-man meme here

a gerdoe 16-Nov-19 06:19 PM

stderr: spider-man meme not defined (str: 1)

Souly 16-Nov-19 06:40 PM

Hawajek 16-Nov-19 07:08 PM

XDDDDdDD

Souly 16-Nov-19 07:14 PM

add animated logo guys

jxsl13 16-Nov-19 09:34 PM

someone woukd need to create one.

would

Hawajek 16-Nov-19 10:07 PM

gg

joaovictorsilva 16-Nov-19 10:37 PM

Joined the server.

hi

catboy vyen 17-Nov-19 03:14 AM

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$aภ☢reӾ 17-Nov-19 07:39 PM

Joined the server.

Lianlilly 17-Nov-19 07:49 PM

Joined the server.

court 18-Nov-19 01:57 AM

Joined the server.

oko 18-Nov-19 11:42 AM

okay, upgraded servers. I'll try to make all the servers back on tomorrow.

odinsamejima 18-Nov-19 09:08 PM

https://discord.gg/7WQmSzG

Good Clan< we can play here in multiplayer games. Заходите кто хочет в мультиплеерные игры погамать.

jxsl13 18-Nov-19 09:12 PM

this is an english only server(with optional translations into your language)

Example messge from above: Great, now you can use phrases that the translator cannot translate! Супер, теперь можно использовать фразы которые не может перевести переводчик!

Daoie54 19-Nov-19 12:57 AM

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HANG OUT 19-Nov-19 01:43 AM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 19-Nov-19 09:46 AM

lol

nemozet

Souly 19-Nov-19 01:45 PM

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Trafalgar Law 19-Nov-19 06:28 PM

Hey, anyone know how to fix that problem?: https://i.imgur.com/KTUJRvD.png I'm mapping the map in ddnet, but i dont why its happening now

Assa 19-Nov-19 06:28 PM

zoom...

Trafalgar Law 19-Nov-19 06:29 PM

Nah

ChillerDragon 19-Nov-19 06:29 PM

your background is messed up

Assa 19-Nov-19 06:29 PM

the background quad is jut to small for your zoom amount

ChillerDragon 19-Nov-19 06:29 PM

looks like you should increase the left side of your bg

Assa 19-Nov-19 06:30 PM

what you see is 'unrendered' stuff

or rendered ram, had to look it up

ChillerDragon 19-Nov-19 06:31 PM

isnt gfx_clear default 1

Dune 19-Nov-19 06:34 PM

@ChillerDragon not in 0.6 at least

ChillerDragon 19-Nov-19 07:04 PM

is there even gfx_clear in 0.6? Well law sent a 0.7 screenshot anyways thats why i wonder

Dune 19-Nov-19 07:09 PM

Yes

selfless 20-Nov-19 01:45 AM

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Versatile 21-Nov-19 01:53 AM

Joined the server.

Iman 21-Nov-19 09:07 PM

hey why does grenades have a lifetime ?

Dune 21-Nov-19 09:08 PM

every projectile does. I think the idea is that if you hit from very far it's not exactly skill, is it

Iman 21-Nov-19 09:17 PM

mhm

Dune 21-Nov-19 09:17 PM

you can change it with tune grenade_lifetime on any modification

Iman 21-Nov-19 09:18 PM

ye but with nades the curve of the trajectory make the grenade go down

so on most of the maps u cant hit ur opponent from very far

Dune 21-Nov-19 09:18 PM

the lifetime is such that you can hit everything except if you shoot from several screens away I think

but then you haven't really targetted someone, have you

Assa 21-Nov-19 09:48 PM

@Iman i could easily spam your ctf5 server with endless grenades without lifetime

and your server would crash sometimes

Iman 21-Nov-19 09:49 PM

y

Dune 21-Nov-19 09:49 PM

@Assa well grenades would fall down and be destroyed

Iman 21-Nov-19 09:49 PM

but it's possible to create smthng to erase nades ?

Assa 21-Nov-19 09:49 PM

@Dune does a map have projectile boundaries?

Dune 21-Nov-19 09:49 PM

@Assa you die if you go too far, almost certain projectiles also "die"

Assa 21-Nov-19 09:51 PM

looked it up, yea you are right

ChillerDragon 22-Nov-19 12:03 AM

@Iman it is called collision aka hook/unhook one of the best nade killers

Whore 22-Nov-19 01:48 AM

Joined the server.

Iman 22-Nov-19 12:19 PM

ok

Assa 22-Nov-19 01:43 PM

sol regem

Iman 22-Nov-19 02:32 PM

Is it bcs of the lag that sometimes i'm hooked somewhere , release it for a very short time, and i see the hook disappear and re appear at the same place despite the fact i was aiming somewhere else ?

Dune 22-Nov-19 03:12 PM

Unless you are playing on a bugged mod that sounds like packet losses

Ctrl shift d Ctrl shift g to check for lag spikes

Deleted User 22-Nov-19 06:19 PM

Joined the server.

can someone speak german?

ChillerDragon 22-Nov-19 06:22 PM

yes

Deleted User 22-Nov-19 06:22 PM

u?

ChillerDragon 22-Nov-19 06:22 PM

yes

Deleted User 22-Nov-19 06:22 PM

hast du lust auf teeworlds?

ChillerDragon 22-Nov-19 06:22 PM

this is a english discord tho

Deleted User 22-Nov-19 06:22 PM

grad?

k

ChillerDragon 22-Nov-19 06:22 PM

no sorry :/

Deleted User 22-Nov-19 06:22 PM

k

:c

NudelBr0t 22-Nov-19 09:17 PM

Joined the server.

Hi

Deleted User 23-Nov-19 12:12 AM

!help

IRChelp

jxsl13 23-Nov-19 01:18 AM

?

Dependable 23-Nov-19 01:42 AM

Joined the server.

Souly 23-Nov-19 02:50 AM

i just noticed that i am the only person here to have colored nick

Dune 23-Nov-19 02:51 AM

@teeworlds got a crown though!

Deleted User 23-Nov-19 11:03 AM

tree worlds

NudelBr0t 23-Nov-19 11:53 AM

Dune 23-Nov-19 02:42 PM

@Trafalgar Law got a lot of russians on your server eh :D

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Trafalgar Law 23-Nov-19 02:43 PM

True

But i thought there was more france then russian players xD

Dune 23-Nov-19 02:44 PM

dont russians get bad ping over there?

Trafalgar Law 23-Nov-19 02:44 PM

I think they have a ping like 70-100

Dune 23-Nov-19 02:45 PM

isn1t that bad for DDRace?

Trafalgar Law 23-Nov-19 02:45 PM

Not for Multimap xD

That map is to easy

a gerdoe 23-Nov-19 04:04 PM

ah that 0.5 times

70-140 ping on multimap every evening...

Assa 23-Nov-19 06:39 PM

can we talk about the japan players there? What ping do they have? 300?

Dune 23-Nov-19 06:39 PM

I doubt there are any (edited)

jxsl13 23-Nov-19 06:40 PM

their ping is usually over 9000

thus cannot play tw

Trafalgar Law 23-Nov-19 06:42 PM

Is that count of the players from the flag? Like if @Deleted User takes japan flag its count him like japan player xD?

Assa 23-Nov-19 06:42 PM

@Dune it was your screenshot of the top 10, #10 is japan

Dune 23-Nov-19 06:42 PM

it's just weebs @Assa

Assa 23-Nov-19 06:43 PM

thought it was based by ip

Dune 23-Nov-19 06:43 PM

ah, nah, the masterservers doesn't know the ip of players on a serve

jxsl13 23-Nov-19 06:43 PM

it's based on flags, how would stats.tw know ips

Assa 23-Nov-19 06:43 PM

true

jxsl13 23-Nov-19 06:43 PM

I encountered some weird chat bug in gamer

cannot screenshot, cuz screenshots are not saved ._. whyever

Dune 23-Nov-19 06:44 PM

huh? checked in appdata?

what does it say in console when you press f10?

you can also use windows' screenshot if not in fullscreen

jxsl13 23-Nov-19 06:45 PM

f10 was unbound :c

it's a chat history related bug

Dune 23-Nov-19 06:46 PM

probably a trunk bug instead of gamer then

jxsl13 23-Nov-19 06:46 PM

cursor goes left

then some weird stuff happens

and when sending it, the correct history message appears, but not on the clientside in the chat there (edited)

history message correct, client shows garbage (YEEHAAA is correct)

Trafalgar Law 23-Nov-19 06:49 PM

i cant see a bug Oo

Wtf

jxsl13 23-Nov-19 06:50 PM

second last screenshot, read what the chat input says

Trafalgar Law 23-Nov-19 06:50 PM

Ah lol

Dune 23-Nov-19 08:13 PM

I think one should never be auto-spawned in zcatch

avoids afk

NudelBr0t 23-Nov-19 08:24 PM

jxsl13 23-Nov-19 11:30 PM

bad for gameplay, one could follow one specific player and know where that player is located in order to kill them and then spawn at the exact time one would want to kill that player.

Souly 23-Nov-19 11:32 PM

jxsl13 23-Nov-19 11:54 PM

caught players are actually nit in spec, but in deadspec, which is different, blocking ingame spots anyway, if I'm not mistaken.

Dune 24-Nov-19 12:16 AM

huh? (edited)

Deleted User 24-Nov-19 12:21 AM

whats the absolute maximum speed achievable

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 12:22 AM

6000

Deleted User 24-Nov-19 12:25 AM

do you go backwards with that?

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 12:25 AM

no

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 12:57 AM

I mean, afk players that are in deadspec mode would block ingame spots in any case, as they would not be in spec after being released, but in deadspec, which is considered as being ingame.

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:00 AM

You can move em to spec after some minute of inactivity i guess

Right now I'm having to move to spec every time I die and it spams chat

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:01 AM

I think the general afk kick/move to spec is broken, as there seems to be one in vanilla?

what exactly do you mean by this: Right now I'm having to move to spec every time I die and it spams chat ?

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:03 AM

when I die, I have to move to spec in order to manually select when I want to respawn

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:04 AM

you can click the join spec whenever you are caught and will join spec automatically if you are released

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:05 AM

that's what I do

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:08 AM

the manually joining part is rather bad for the gameplay, as it encourages people to watch other people and join at a specific time to snipe those people, like you can watch them from spec knowing their position and join, go to their position without them having a chance(most of the time) to react.

and I'd guess people would just stay in spec, if someone joins, that person would be directly sniped by the next person joining(worst case) and so on, until the last person joins and snipes the second last, winning.

this behavior is currently more often encountered, when somebody is about to win. a person spectating joins the game and in many cases kills the winning player

which is why this issue exists: https://github.com/jxsl13/zcatch/issues/54

RFC: spectators should not be able to join, when there is the last...

I think people might explicitly try to wait in spec for that moment to annoy people who are currently winning especially when it's the case with toxic professional players thta aim for exac...

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 01:12 AM

old zcatch had that behavior

where you are only able to join after the player with the most kill dies

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:12 AM

0.5 or 0.6 zcatch?

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 01:13 AM

0.6 I think

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:14 AM

hm, I think it was more of the same behavior that I have currently. If you were ingame, you can freely join spec and enter the game. if you join the server, you are being caught by the player with the most kills.

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 01:14 AM

why are you privileged when joining spec?

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:15 AM

in what way privileged?

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 01:15 AM

being able to rejoin immediately

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:16 AM

because you were properly ingame before, and might have wanted to go afk for a while. Might be caught maybe instead of directly join the game

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 01:16 AM

yea

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:17 AM

would at least prevent this sniping behavior from spec (edited)

young girl 24-Nov-19 01:22 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:27 AM

I don't see how being ingame makes "sniping" more of a problem than being in spec

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:28 AM

you cannot decide when you join, when you are in deadspec(ingame) mode, as when you are in spec, you can decide when to join,

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:30 AM

yes, yet spec is allowed just fine

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:31 AM

mind phrasing your point more precisely, I'm not getting what yo mean

at least the criticism part not

what do you dislike and what would be your solution to that?

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:32 AM

My point is that there should be more delay allowed for respawning in zcatch

There is no reason to force a respawn after a few seconds

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:33 AM

like, you killer does and you would want to join some seconds later?

dies

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:33 AM

yes

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:33 AM

and you control exactly, when you spawn

after your killer died

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:34 AM

yes

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:34 AM

which encourages that sniping behavior?

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:34 AM

right now, there isa 0.5 delay before respawning, and respawn is forced after 3s (vanilla)

You can achieve that behavior by going to spec -> joining already

I don't see how it makes this hypothetical sniping easier to be ingame. You don't see where you spawn anyway, do you?

yeah you don't

I don't see how you can "snipe" anyone

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:36 AM

you can rather quickly move on grenade zcatch from your spawning spot to the spot of your target

in laser that would be no problem

in grenade, you could shoot some nades in the direction where your target was having a high chance that one of them hits

or predict their movement patterns easier, if you know where they are and where they will or might go

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:38 AM

I suggest https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/commit/410d83dc13d55ba0198793d73b53a1891a87d886

Let players a minute before force spawning · Dune-jr/teeworlds@41...

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:39 AM

by pressing the fire key one would spanw?

spawn

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:39 AM

after 0.5s, like in vanilla

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:40 AM

so 0.5 is a forced delay and then you can wait for 55 more seconds to press the fire key to spawn

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:40 AM

59.5s but yes

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:41 AM

yeah

what would this behaviour give you as an advantage? what use case justifies this behavior (edited)

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:43 AM

been killed by some good player that stays alive for a minute and you're checking another screen

it's annoying to have to be ready to alt-tab within a three seconds notice

and if you don't, you get killed again because you stayed a couple of seconds without moving and took a grenade to the face

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:43 AM

hm k

I think 60 seconds is too much, but like 15 - 30 seconds would be better (edited)

anything above that should be handled by joining spec

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:44 AM

meh just treat them as afk after 60s and move them to spec / don't count them towards the win condiction

but yeah, 15-30 is already good, no reason to enforce 3 seconds

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:45 AM

I'm not 100 % sure how the whole respawning worked, so it's basically a giant hack xD (edited)

gotta open an issue that properly explains the wanted behavior ._.

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:46 AM

git cherry-pick -x 410d83dc13d55ba0198793d73b53a1891a87d886

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 01:47 AM

https://www.google.com/search?q=410d83dc13d55ba0198793d73b53a1891a87d886

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:47 AM

if this were vanilla, yeah

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:47 AM

@heinrich5991 git fetch github:Dune-jr first ofc

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:47 AM

yo can take a look at the player.cpp of zcatch

https://github.com/jxsl13/zcatch/blob/8a9fcc321c8189c8b124a2302d3d14ddbc59ac49/src/game/server/player.cpp#L637

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hB7lcaNgKw&feature=youtu.be

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to jxsl13/zcatch development by creating an account on GitHub.

kinda hacky stuff ._. also there is some extra delay that forces a player to stay in deadspec for some time, because a flying grenade of that caught player might still hit somone. if that player would respawn, his grenade would be disabled. (prevent grenades of players that die, respawn, and kill a person with a grenade that was shot before they died)

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 01:51 AM

that sounds fun

don't disable it

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jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:52 AM

that's annoying

gameplay-wise

heinrich5991 24-Nov-19 01:52 AM

that's like instagib with hitting each other in the same tick ^^

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:52 AM

hehe

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:52 AM

basically these double kills

(killing each other)

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:54 AM

getting your revenge back from the grave is cool

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:54 AM

could you tell me, which member variables, regulate which part of the respawn process?

Dune 24-Nov-19 01:54 AM

idk

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 01:54 AM

from the grave yes, but not from some random grenade shot before you died and hits after you respawn

while you are dead, everything's fine

and your nades kill properly

the CPlayer::Respawn() function basically should force the respawn there?

and the m_RespawnTick enforces the respawn delay, (0.5 secs) (edited)

might really be just your line there

hm, people need to be informed and stuff ._.

Dune 24-Nov-19 02:11 AM

I think it's fine, they'll just figure they don't spawn automatically for a while

jxsl13 24-Nov-19 02:25 AM

I was confused myself for a while there, I'd prefer to inform them x)

didn't know that respawning bahavior

Zeral 24-Nov-19 06:21 PM

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Ludi 24-Nov-19 11:55 PM

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LEGGY 25-Nov-19 01:30 AM

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Blueberry 25-Nov-19 03:20 AM

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worstwish 25-Nov-19 06:37 PM

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Souly 25-Nov-19 08:26 PM

@worstwish

add that animated logo

pls

campfire but spooky 25-Nov-19 10:07 PM

e

worstwish 25-Nov-19 11:17 PM

@Dune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCs3a3Uz8cw

LordSk

Teeworlds: brush automap

what the fuck

that is actually so good

Dune 25-Nov-19 11:20 PM

@LordSk is actually so good*

UNDERHANDED 26-Nov-19 01:16 AM

Joined the server.

Fudgy 26-Nov-19 03:03 AM

its already possible right now in vanilla 0.7 tho

worstwish 26-Nov-19 03:33 PM

ANNOUNCING THE Winter's GCTF TOURNAMENT 2019 Heya pals, here we are, after that the gctf appeared in 0.7, we Corp decided to organise our own gCTF tournament. Every players from any levels are invited to participate to this tournament so take your grenade and kill them all to earn the prizes! For more information about signing up and the tournament join our 0.7 gCTF Community discord server here: https://discord.gg/Xr6AhWb (edited)

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Dune 26-Nov-19 03:36 PM

@worstwish would you tell us about the date, time and prizes?

worstwish 26-Nov-19 03:37 PM

BASIC INFORMATION Date: Saturday 21/12/2019 Gametype: gCTF Version: 0.7 Map: CTF 5 - CTF 3 - CTF Tantum - CTF 4_old - CTF Corp and some other maps (u will be informed soon ) Participant-Limit: 2 players and 1 replacement Rounds: This will be a BO3 on each maps. The first match gotta be on ctf5. Losers will decide of the next map to play on. Time-Limit/Round: 15 Minutes PRIZES First : 60€ Second : 40€ Third : 20€

Sneak 26-Nov-19 05:58 PM

Corp. [Teeworlds]

gCTF Winter Tournament [Teeworlds]

For more information about signing up and the tournament join our 0.7 gCTF Community discord server here: https://discord.gg/Xr6AhWb

Iman 26-Nov-19 06:01 PM

it's a weird choice to show zcatch demos for a gctf tournament ad

worstwish 26-Nov-19 06:03 PM

ye

thats what i said too

but didnt have any gctf clip

Assa 26-Nov-19 06:20 PM

@worstwish @Dune it is working, however the automapper files need updates ^^ I used @LordSk s Editor for my mapgenerator, it's great stuff

Dudoski 26-Nov-19 07:17 PM

Joined the server.

Teeworlds its my life teeeeeeeeeeeeeewooooooorlllldsssss

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jxsl13 26-Nov-19 09:15 PM

announcing the zCatch organize it yourself tournament

x)

Assa 26-Nov-19 09:59 PM

winner has to give me 5€

t bohne 27-Nov-19 12:05 AM

Joined the server.

dote 27-Nov-19 01:19 AM

Joined the server.

Trafalgar Law 27-Nov-19 05:12 PM

Hey guys, can anyone transfer this 0.6 skin to 0.7?

Dune 27-Nov-19 05:16 PM

you can use this script: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2021

add skinMe Script to Teeworlds · Issue #2021 · teeworlds/teeworlds

I wrote a script to take old 0.6 tee skins and convert them into 0.7 skins. It would be nice if TW would detect when a player puts a 0.6 skin in their skins folder and run this script automatically...

Assa 27-Nov-19 05:22 PM

already working on it with him, after sending him a zip bomb

Trafalgar Law 27-Nov-19 05:22 PM

https://tenor.com/view/craig-ferguson-joke-joking-it-was-ajoke-gif-10439100

Trafalgar Law 27-Nov-19 06:29 PM

Hey Guys, I'm so happy that I can share this all skins for 0.7 https://puu.sh/EJi4L/d0e5d70a06.rar Thats round about 800 Skins With body/feet/hands and the .json Hope you enjoy this (Thanks to @Assa for the help ❤️ ) (Don't add all feets and hands, some of them are buggy, can't test all 800 skins) (edited)

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Trafalgar Law 27-Nov-19 07:08 PM

(Dont replace your old skins)

Assa 27-Nov-19 07:10 PM

eww, .rar

Trafalgar Law 27-Nov-19 07:10 PM

xD

What are you using normally @Assa

Assa 27-Nov-19 07:34 PM

zip, because it's easiest to use on ubuntu, windoofs and mac

heinrich5991 27-Nov-19 07:59 PM

@Assa 7zip on all of these

can also extract .rar

jxsl13 27-Nov-19 09:34 PM

it would make sense to create a forum post and use a proper hosting service that doesn't delete the file after like 10 years. and give these to the guy that hosts the skin database.

Trafalgar Law 27-Nov-19 09:58 PM

https://i.imgur.com/GHmb0Ly.png What I have to do that I can see my ninja skin? I dont want see my normal skin if I'm in freeze xD

ah okay

i fixxed it

jxsl13 27-Nov-19 10:31 PM

https://github.com/iTzMeRafa/Teeskins/issues/1

New 0.7 skins & could not upload body part on teeskins.de · Issue...

I have gotten my hands on 0.7 skins + skin parts(discord), which can now be added to your database. I tried uploading a body part, which seemed not to work. Assa & Trafalgar Law(Marius) cre...

it might make sense to host a github repository with 0.7 skins

in order not to rely on actual one click hosters, which might take down the files, which github will not.

Zaftig 28-Nov-19 01:15 AM

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WhiteKitty 28-Nov-19 05:17 AM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 28-Nov-19 06:01 AM

@Trafalgar Law how did you do the no ninja skin thing?

Trafalgar Law 28-Nov-19 06:39 AM

@fokkonaut delete the x_ninja.json

Souly 28-Nov-19 07:18 AM

i tried to upload something for 0.7 on teeskins.de, it showed me that it was published but i couldn't find it anywhere

switching to github would be cool idea

Dune 28-Nov-19 09:56 AM

Maybe it needs approval :)

Github is less good for visualisation :/

Souly 28-Nov-19 11:30 AM

ye

Assa 28-Nov-19 02:15 PM

I wonder how illegal it would be to host a service on top of github

repo size limit is 100GB

ChillerDragon 28-Nov-19 02:17 PM

there is also rate limit per etc

thats why i split up my demos on multiple organisations to expand limits

Assa 28-Nov-19 02:19 PM

5,000 requests per hour @ChillerDragon wtf did you do?

83 per minute, over 1 a second?

ChillerDragon 28-Nov-19 02:21 PM

i think i reached rate limits when cloning the full repo and pushing etc from multiple devices

iirc something like 1 or 2gb in 24h max not too sure tho

Dune 28-Nov-19 03:49 PM

@Zeral english only

Zeral 28-Nov-19 03:51 PM

how to take part in the tournament?

@ChillerDragon

ChillerDragon 28-Nov-19 03:59 PM

what tourney @Zeral ?

the gCtf one?

Dune 28-Nov-19 04:37 PM

@Assa I think pull requests are impossible without fork info on github :/

(except by cloning it again) (edited)

Trafalgar Law 28-Nov-19 05:59 PM

https://i.imgur.com/Gfb1SDO.png Anyone know how to fix? All skins have the same format idk why the console says invalid format >.< (edited)

Dune 28-Nov-19 06:00 PM

check dimensions

Trafalgar Law 28-Nov-19 06:03 PM

Wdym with dimensions xD?

Dune 28-Nov-19 06:04 PM

something like 128x64px

Trafalgar Law 28-Nov-19 06:06 PM

Hm I checked one skin out who is not loading and its the same like the skins who can load

Dune 28-Nov-19 06:08 PM

if(Png.depth != 8 || (Png.color_type != PNG_TRUECOLOR && Png.color_type != PNG_TRUECOLOR_ALPHA) || Png.width > (2<<12) || Png.height > (2<<12)) // ignore_convention { dbg_msg("game/png", "invalid format. filename='%s'", aCompleteFilename);

that could use some dedicated error messages I guess

one of those conditions is false

go find some tool/online thing to check those parameters and see which one is wrong

alternatively, edit graphics_threaded.cpp :)

Ta un ptit probleme mec 28-Nov-19 09:19 PM

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jxsl13 28-Nov-19 10:50 PM

2 << 12 is the cool people's way of writing 2^12 hue hue, why not write the integer value there... bitshifts make readability non-existing, especially at places where you do not need bitshifts.

Dune 28-Nov-19 11:51 PM

2 << 12 is 2^13

And that's more relevant than the integer value imo

It's a constant anyway

builder17 29-Nov-19 09:20 AM

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jxsl13 29-Nov-19 03:55 PM

I meant 1<< 12 Kinda didn't see the 2 there, usually it's a 1. (edited)

I wonder why it's actually even more complicated by using a 2 there. (edited)

why is the bitshift part more relevant, what would be expressed by 2 << 12 that is not being expressed by 8192? (edited)

MaCRoYale 29-Nov-19 04:56 PM

Joined the server.

kotC9 29-Nov-19 05:29 PM

@qshar @kogadmins wtf?

Trafalgar Law 29-Nov-19 05:29 PM

Thats not 0.6

Thats 0.7, go on KoG Discord and ask there

https://discord.gg/NGtK63M

Sneak 29-Nov-19 05:58 PM

More infos here https://discord.gg/qcDG8QV

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:43 PM

@Dune

watcha think (edited)

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/compare/master...Ryozuki:pr_serverside_cmds?expand=1

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1577

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

here is the changes

i thought about doing a argument parser but idk a good way to do it and looks complicated, i guess its better to let each modder do it their way

talking to a wall

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:52 PM

@Ryozuki at first glance of the code, looks like some nice work so far, good job

It's easy to get bugs in this thing though, gotta test it thoroughly

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:53 PM

yeah sure :p

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:53 PM

the network.py changes need to be put at the end to not break compatibility with older versions afaik

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:53 PM

i see

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:53 PM

I had started to write something similar a while ago but you did a lot more progress

One specification there was, was that client commands and server commands should be distinguishable

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:54 PM

and it is

it can be more beutiful but it is xD

u see, test is blueish

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:54 PM

Oh, is that the green background?

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:55 PM

ye

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:55 PM

I see

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:55 PM

if u know a better color feel free to tell me it xd

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:55 PM

That's good by my standards :)

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:55 PM

so i move the netmsgs to the end

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:56 PM

I think there are already some netmsgs with # TODO 0.:8 move up right

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:56 PM

yep

moved them there

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:56 PM

yeah good

/r doesn't take a playername btw

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:57 PM

ops

a string?

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:58 PM

nothing

just typing /r replies to the last message

Those chat commands were written hastily before 0.7.3 iirc I wanted to make it so that you don't have to press enter after tabbing a player, but instead that doing space does this

and maybe some syntax coloring so you can see where the player argument is e.g. All: /w **nameless tee (1)** hey

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:59 PM

hmm but maybe that can be done in another pr

Dune 29-Nov-19 08:59 PM

oh yeah absolutely

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 08:59 PM

:p

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:00 PM

You think it's most intuitive to put server commands on the bottom?

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:00 PM

well idk but its easier

codewise

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:01 PM

I see

do you think it lacks something else (other than an argument parser)?

btw I think server commands should be able to override client commands

e.g. if server defines /r, then it disables the /r client command

but that might be confusion inducing

what do you think?

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:01 PM

i wouldnt do it

actually i need to fix to not have duplicates

:o

server has plenty of command names to choose i think

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:03 PM

that's true but ddrace stuff tends to use /team and /r right

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:03 PM

/r is exactly what it does rn i think

about team, thats right

any more opinion on this?

its not hard to do it anyway

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:04 PM

when you press escape it sends commands as raw text

but it's a bit unclear when it's a command and when it's raw text :/

teeworlds guidelines go against the use of NULL btw I had to edit a PR for that :p

thanks for your work

I'll test it this weekend

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:07 PM

ill pr to make it easier

@Dune do they go against nullptr?

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:09 PM

my bad, I think I got it the other way around and it's no nullptr

lemme grep

Replace nullptr by NULL, fixing compilation errors; also, correct ...

Compilation is broken since 5ef5a26. Should use NULL instead of nullptr: teeworlds/src/game/client/components/menus_settings.cpp Lines 1186 to 1187 in 5...

right, I forgot nullptr is C++11

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:13 PM

so i should use 0

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:13 PM

NULL is fine

my bad, I think I got it the other way around

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:13 PM

i like nullptr tho

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:13 PM

me too

but it doesn't compile :(

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:14 PM

it compiles for me

do u use a old compiler or smth

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:14 PM

cause you use some C++11 compiler

by default the compiler settings do not enable c++11 flags for gcc, for example (edited)

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:14 PM

i see

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:16 PM

you're on windows? msvc doesn't have an option to be strict c++03. right @LordSk ?

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:16 PM

windows? never

im on arch linux

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:16 PM

huh, which compiler?

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:16 PM

gcc -v Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=gcc COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/9.2.0/lto-wrapper Target: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Configured with: /build/gcc/src/gcc/configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-bugurl=https://bugs.archlinux.org/ --enable-languages=c,c++,ada,fortran,go,lto,objc,obj-c++,d --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --with-system-zlib --with-isl --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions --enable-clocale=gnu --disable-libstdcxx-pch --disable-libssp --enable-gnu-unique-object --enable-linker-build-id --enable-lto --enable-plugin --enable-install-libiberty --with-linker-hash-style=gnu --enable-gnu-indirect-function --enable-multilib --disable-werror --enable-checking=release --enable-default-pie --enable-default-ssp --enable-cet=auto gdc_include_dir=/usr/include/dlang/gdc Thread model: posix gcc version 9.2.0 (GCC)

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:17 PM

strange that it builds

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:17 PM

why

i use cmake + ninja

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:19 PM

tmp>g++ main.cpp tmp>g++ main.cpp --std=c++03 main.cpp: In function 'int main()': main.cpp:3:14: error: 'nullptr' was not declared in this scope return (int)nullptr; ^~~~~~~

so g++ defaults to c++11 nowadays

TIL :)

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:19 PM

:D

u sure its c++11 and not 14 or 17?

i wouldnt be surprised

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:20 PM

tmp>g++ -dM -E -x c++ main.cpp | grep -F __cplus #define __cplusplus 201402L

you're right

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:20 PM

g++ -dM -E -x c++ /dev/null | grep -F cplusplus #define cplusplus 201402L

ye

xd

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:20 PM

;o

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:20 PM

201402L is c++17

iirc

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:20 PM

sounds counterintuitive

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:26 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2297

Add server-side command support by Ryozuki · Pull Request #2297 ...

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:29 PM

@Ryozuki btw did I miss something or there is no limit to how many commands the server can set?

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:30 PM

there isnt

should i add a sane limit

idk

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:30 PM

yeah or it'll just glitch the UI

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:30 PM

how much is too much

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:30 PM

idk 15?

maybe it'd be good to add a way the server can remove commands

so that it can replace them contextually

and only display those that can be executed

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:31 PM

true

client already has 8 cmds

with 15 it leaves 7 to the server

but u can always do stuff like

subcommands

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:33 PM

I meant 15 to the server

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:33 PM

ok

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:33 PM

but that's just a random number better check with the UI I guess

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:34 PM

it also depends on the resolution right

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:34 PM

yeah..

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:34 PM

what about

making the rect fixed size

and add a sidebar

scrollbar*

im not a ui code pro tho

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:35 PM

even on super small resolutions it just scales down

this is 640x480

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:35 PM

ah

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:36 PM

scrollbar works when it's a clickable thing, I think that would be messy

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:36 PM

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:36 PM

but maybe it's a good idea, not sure

so 14 is the limit?

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 09:37 PM

14 for server? ye i guess

Dune 29-Nov-19 09:37 PM

aight

jxsl13 29-Nov-19 10:50 PM

client side scrolling?

256 commands would be neat :/

Dune 29-Nov-19 10:50 PM

hf doing the UI for that ;)

jxsl13 29-Nov-19 10:51 PM

xD

never touched the client

well once

worstwish 29-Nov-19 11:06 PM

@Ryozuki

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 11:06 PM

@worstwish what

3

worstwish 29-Nov-19 11:06 PM

haahaha

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 11:07 PM

??

ChillerDragon 29-Nov-19 11:57 PM

@Ryozuki can the server overwrite client commands?

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 11:57 PM

@ChillerDragon not yet

idk if its useful

ChillerDragon 29-Nov-19 11:57 PM

well /team and /w might be usefull but could also be nasty if they block the client commands and users depend on that

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 11:59 PM

ChillerDragon 29-Nov-19 11:59 PM

http://puu.sh/EK5eZ/f747f346fd.png

could be removed i guess

Ryozuki 29-Nov-19 11:59 PM

ik

the thing needs to be tested

i left it there for convenience

ChillerDragon 30-Nov-19 12:00 AM

k

so pr is not finished yet?

Ryozuki 30-Nov-19 12:00 AM

it is

well if u keep telling me new features then not

ChillerDragon 30-Nov-19 12:00 AM

xd

what about argument auto completion

Ryozuki 30-Nov-19 12:01 AM

its posible

cuz i send flags

ChillerDragon 30-Nov-19 12:01 AM

wait rly?

Ryozuki 30-Nov-19 12:01 AM

i will not do it rn

ChillerDragon 30-Nov-19 12:01 AM

i wanted to troll u

Ryozuki 30-Nov-19 12:01 AM

well its just basic

client knows how many arguments and their type

int string playername

worstwish 30-Nov-19 12:02 AM

yeyeyeye so true btw ye

gentle soul 30-Nov-19 01:35 AM

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Ryozuki 30-Nov-19 02:07 AM

@n000b wat u talking about

i cant talk there

n000b 30-Nov-19 02:14 AM

@Ryozuki well you requested more sound options for the chst right?

Lol why can i talk there and u not

Ryozuki 30-Nov-19 02:22 AM

@n000b its on a pr i made

n000b 30-Nov-19 02:24 AM

Ah but not yet accepted?

RudolfMonekey 30-Nov-19 12:05 PM

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hello

anybody alive?

n000b 30-Nov-19 12:54 PM

maybe

i got a problem when i download teeworlds 0.731 from the website

jxsl13 30-Nov-19 01:00 PM

I see the problem, it turned your pc's language to dutch.

@n000b https://github.com/teeworlds/documentation/blob/master/support/faq.md

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=123811#p123811

Contribute to teeworlds/documentation development by creating an account on GitHub.

n000b 30-Nov-19 01:23 PM

hehe

tthanks

worstwish 30-Nov-19 02:03 PM

browser discord

n000b 30-Nov-19 02:19 PM

U

I normally use phone tho

builder17 01-Dec-19 11:18 AM

something wrong with browser discord? It's always up-to-date :D

It doesn't have all features tho, but got everything I need

Assa 01-Dec-19 12:14 PM

update browser, restart browser, restart pc, else idk

n000b 01-Dec-19 05:38 PM

@Assa you clearly didn t understand what he means. He ask worstwish what is wrong with using discord on webrowser.

MaCRoYale 01-Dec-19 07:51 PM

Guys? my ping is 999 on all servers

it's usually not even 50

please help

MaCRoYale 01-Dec-19 07:59 PM

I restarted my computer and everything

someone help

LordSk 01-Dec-19 08:03 PM

Even when you actually connect to a server ? @MaCRoYale

MaCRoYale 01-Dec-19 08:06 PM

wdym?

There's an improvement some have gone down to 978

LordSk 01-Dec-19 08:07 PM

What is your ping when you are ON a server?

MaCRoYale 01-Dec-19 08:08 PM

gone back to normal. but when i was on one it was still 999

Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ 02-Dec-19 03:53 PM

is there show ping?

ChillerDragon 02-Dec-19 03:54 PM

ping

Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ 02-Dec-19 03:55 PM

like all the time

Dune 02-Dec-19 04:13 PM

you can see it on the scoreboard, but that's it

jxsl13 02-Dec-19 05:02 PM

redix said that the ping command is a bad representation. so, the scoreboard should be the correct way to go.

Dune 02-Dec-19 05:11 PM

it shows latency which is useful too

YARE 02-Dec-19 05:24 PM

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redix 02-Dec-19 05:38 PM

The command does not flush the packet... so a few ms might be added on each endpoint

Deleted User 02-Dec-19 08:10 PM

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Deleted User 03-Dec-19 02:29 AM

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a gerdoe 03-Dec-19 05:40 PM

stl lib is vector type?

not vec2 or vec3

just vector

Deleted User 03-Dec-19 06:04 PM

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jxsl13 03-Dec-19 07:39 PM

full sentences pls ._. there is a vector type in the c++ szandard library that is a growing type of array/container (edited)

a gerdoe 03-Dec-19 09:12 PM

sorry, i forgot that english isnt russian language

I can write any word in russian and my friends will understand me

it looks like im stupid

n000b 03-Dec-19 09:14 PM

XD

worstwish 04-Dec-19 01:08 AM

@learath

@learath2

n000b 04-Dec-19 09:53 PM

@worstwish i forwarded your message.

worstwish 04-Dec-19 09:54 PM

already had cybersex wit him tanks tho

n000b 04-Dec-19 10:42 PM

Chilli.* 05-Dec-19 07:39 AM

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a gerdoe 05-Dec-19 09:07 AM

awwww man

Souly 05-Dec-19 11:00 AM

Bramdonee 05-Dec-19 07:29 PM

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Ilìden 05-Dec-19 07:43 PM

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Bramdonee 05-Dec-19 07:44 PM

QUI EST FR

Ilìden 05-Dec-19 07:46 PM

Mpi

Iman 05-Dec-19 08:11 PM

this is an english-only channel. c'est un chan anglais seulement.

Manaka117 05-Dec-19 09:31 PM

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Trafalgar Law 05-Dec-19 09:32 PM

@Dune https://i.imgur.com/AwjXucv.png Statement?

Dune 05-Dec-19 09:36 PM

@Trafalgar Law Dune's writer thought gay gingers embodied villains best

Trafalgar Law 05-Dec-19 09:37 PM

O_o

There is a lot creepy things when I write dune in gif

Oo

Like this: https://i.imgur.com/q44zyoG.png I mean wtfffffffffff

Dune 05-Dec-19 09:41 PM

No idea :)

Why's your server so popular btw?

Trafalgar Law 05-Dec-19 09:42 PM

It means you are more then one person >:o

I dont know bro

They are testing a new map

And now there are lot of players

n000b 06-Dec-19 05:53 PM

XD

Trafalgar Law 06-Dec-19 05:53 PM

Is there a command to set vote time? @Dune (edited)

Dune 06-Dec-19 05:54 PM

No

ChillerDragon 06-Dec-19 07:09 PM

@Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ i just released a update to the custom client zillywoods which now has the cl_showpred option to always show the ping in the top right corner if you are still interested i somewhat built that for you

Dune 06-Dec-19 07:13 PM

@ChillerDragon You can even have a heartbeat kind of graph to check for network issues: https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/commit/3663a80bbc621a2d3b0b2cb9d9299ac0b09cb97d

ChillerDragon 06-Dec-19 07:13 PM

i know saw that (edited)

Dune 06-Dec-19 07:13 PM

maybe moves a bit too much though

ChillerDragon 06-Dec-19 07:13 PM

let the competition begin

Bread eater 🍞😋😍☺ 06-Dec-19 08:58 PM

@ChillerDragon thanks

Invokerinjo 06-Dec-19 11:03 PM

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ChillerDragon 07-Dec-19 02:06 AM

Is SNSnoop here or does someone know how to contact him? Got a compiling problem on mkddr and issues are deactivated :/

/Users/chillerdragon/Desktop/git/mkRace/src/game/server/mkjson.cpp:68:27: error: non-aggregate type 'std::vector<std::string>' (aka 'vector<basic_string<char, char_traits<char>, allocator<char> > >') cannot be initialized with an initializer list std::vector<std::string> plr = {"id", idstr.str(), "name", Server->ClientName(id)}; ^ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

heinrich5991 07-Dec-19 02:09 AM

@ChillerDragon sounds like too old C++ version

ChillerDragon 07-Dec-19 02:29 AM

yea thats what i was afraight of

is it a new trend to use c++2020 features now or do my compilers just oudated?

Dune 07-Dec-19 02:37 AM

initializers :/

heinrich5991 07-Dec-19 08:02 AM

@ChillerDragon you can likely specify the standard version

-std=gnuxx17 or something like that

jxsl13 07-Dec-19 11:57 AM

I would try putting all c-strings in curly braces in order to indicate a std::string construction. (edited)

but I doubt it will work.

maybe an std::array can be initialized in such a way, as this seems to be a fixed size array

stackoverflow suggests removing the = before the initializer list.

ChillerDragon 07-Dec-19 12:07 PM

well thanks heinrich and jxsl i will try that when i get hands on my mac again

Assa 07-Dec-19 12:08 PM

@ChillerDragon you may have to set some flags for cmake

I already did that somewhere <.<

Stalker• 07-Dec-19 02:46 PM

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Johnnylew 07-Dec-19 10:37 PM

ay

Joined the server.

n000b 07-Dec-19 11:52 PM

@Johnnylew hey

Johnnylew 07-Dec-19 11:52 PM

hi! Nice to see you here!

ChillerDragon 08-Dec-19 01:49 AM

@heinrich5991 well -std=gnuxx17 seems to be a gnu thing but -std=c++17 is a valid mac flag but still it throws the same error :/ (edited)

Dune 08-Dec-19 01:50 AM

welp try c++20 then?

ChillerDragon 08-Dec-19 01:50 AM

big brain

still :/

how

stackoverflow says c++11 should work already

rambazamba 08-Dec-19 05:21 AM

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arabflowa35 08-Dec-19 05:28 AM

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Johnnylew 08-Dec-19 10:47 PM

welcome @rambazamba

ChillerDragon 09-Dec-19 12:48 PM

looks like a weird ad

Sneak 09-Dec-19 01:15 PM

How to loose weight while playing tw yikes

fokkonaut 09-Dec-19 01:42 PM

it works automatically, @ChillerDragon fat boy already lost -20 kg

ChillerDragon 09-Dec-19 02:01 PM

ye i always forget to eat while playing tw

i was overweight when i started playing

Sauce 09-Dec-19 02:34 PM

intermittent fasting is just another word for game addiction hehe

2

xfce 09-Dec-19 04:16 PM

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fokkonaut 10-Dec-19 11:55 AM

Does anyone know who SailorEx is on GitHub?

ChillerDragon 10-Dec-19 02:24 PM

Ukrainian dude

ChillerDragon 10-Dec-19 02:34 PM

Same name on Skype as far as I know

dz 10-Dec-19 04:19 PM

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pm24 10-Dec-19 04:27 PM

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Bitchy 10-Dec-19 04:29 PM

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MaCRoYale 10-Dec-19 05:06 PM

Once again i have the 999 ping on all servers thing

MaCRoYale 10-Dec-19 05:41 PM

still 999 ping on everything

a gerdoe 10-Dec-19 06:50 PM

pm24 10-Dec-19 06:51 PM

?

builder17 10-Dec-19 06:54 PM

that ping might have been problem on his wifi, but it's not certain yet (edited)

a gerdoe 10-Dec-19 08:12 PM

@ChillerDragon is that possible to include antiping into 0.7 client?

jxsl13 10-Dec-19 08:12 PM

everything possible, but unbelievable much work

a gerdoe 10-Dec-19 08:14 PM

thats it

ChillerDragon 10-Dec-19 08:26 PM

i was working on it for 2 days and thats all i got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCpkdm_xkyY

YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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:/

Trafalgar Law 10-Dec-19 08:26 PM

xD

pm24 10-Dec-19 08:28 PM

XD

a gerdoe 10-Dec-19 09:39 PM

@jxsl13 wow 24 dec

not enough i think

Dune 10-Dec-19 11:36 PM

friday is the 13th

jxsl13 10-Dec-19 11:37 PM

basically a bad omen :0

Iman 10-Dec-19 11:39 PM

shit

Dune 12-Dec-19 02:34 PM

@ChillerDragon updated ddr branch since you seemed to want that before release

a gerdoe 12-Dec-19 02:35 PM

ChillerDragon 12-Dec-19 03:08 PM

@Dune thanks a lot ❤️

now ima push the downstream maintainers xd

Dune 12-Dec-19 03:08 PM

probably best to wait 0.7.4...

ChillerDragon 12-Dec-19 03:12 PM

well i still found no way to contact SNSnoop so....

Dune 12-Dec-19 03:16 PM

probably on purpose

ChillerDragon 12-Dec-19 03:21 PM

rude :/

Oh btw @Dune im not sure if the statboard settings really belong to controls because no control keys are set there

also if the dropdown is open it uses the T corners and they do not get closed

Dune 12-Dec-19 03:25 PM

Do you have a better suggestion?

ChillerDragon 12-Dec-19 03:48 PM

For a better settings place i would suggest general instead of controls and about the corners no :/ I was about to make a pr then i realized all these dropdown menus take away the control over corners so it would be a mess. Maybe you need a full background rectangle that wraps all of them so the title is actually wider than the children.

Dune 12-Dec-19 03:48 PM

I thought the same yes

General has no space left

ChillerDragon 12-Dec-19 05:00 PM

:/

WUT(Daniel Dobra || SHSL Gamer) 12-Dec-19 05:12 PM

Joined the server.

Sneak 12-Dec-19 05:31 PM

Aye aye hdmi

Trafalgar Law 12-Dec-19 07:08 PM

Hey guys, I'm using the ddnet7 mod and I'm trying to use the command /mapinfo, but I get everytime this error: [2019-12-12 18:44:38][sql]: MySQL Error: COLLATION 'utf8mb4_general_ci' is not valid for CHARACTER SET 'latin1' [2019-12-12 18:44:38][sql]: ERROR: Could not get Mapinfo Anyone know hot fix that :/ ? (edited)

MaCRoYale 12-Dec-19 09:39 PM

Nope, sorry wish i could help you. Good luck in finding an answer!

Trafalgar Law 12-Dec-19 09:39 PM

Ah forget to say I found a fix ^^

MaCRoYale 12-Dec-19 09:39 PM

Nice

Look forward to playing another of your maps (That make me rage)

pm24 12-Dec-19 09:40 PM

^-^

Trafalgar Law 12-Dec-19 09:40 PM

You played my map :X?

MaCRoYale 12-Dec-19 09:40 PM

ofc

who doesn't?

a gerdoe 12-Dec-19 09:56 PM

dev guys

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do u want to make perfectpixel stuff?

ChillerDragon 12-Dec-19 10:33 PM

?xd

pm24 12-Dec-19 10:36 PM

hmmmmm

stampy 13-Dec-19 04:46 AM

Joined the server.

authorization 13-Dec-19 01:55 PM

Joined the server.

Why only 1 Server on Serverlist?

Dune 13-Dec-19 01:58 PM

refresh? masterservers seem fine

also check filters

@authorization are you on the All filter?

authorization 13-Dec-19 02:21 PM

? i didnt have any filter on

i use 0.6.5 only 1 Server on

Trafalgar Law 13-Dec-19 02:22 PM

xD

Boy thats 0.7 discord

authorization 13-Dec-19 02:22 PM

any 0.6 discord

Trafalgar Law 13-Dec-19 02:22 PM

I think u play on ddnet right?

authorization 13-Dec-19 02:22 PM

no

Sneak 13-Dec-19 02:29 PM

That's teeworlds discord aight :)

No matter the version

Dune 13-Dec-19 02:34 PM

@authorization ah, I assumed 0.7. Well 0.6 has some known exploits so 0.6 masterservers regularly get ddos'd

fokkonaut 13-Dec-19 03:22 PM

i get no servers on 0.7

WingedTeam 13-Dec-19 04:16 PM

Joined the server.

cc

Dune 13-Dec-19 04:27 PM

@fokkonaut yet https://status.tw seems fine?

status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players.

fokkonaut 13-Dec-19 04:27 PM

yea

Fudgy 14-Dec-19 02:14 AM

I have to refresh a couple times before getting any servers on 0.6 but on 0.7 I have no problems

n000b 14-Dec-19 08:49 AM

@Fudgy no ddos on the masterserver (yet) (edited)

Deleted User 14-Dec-19 09:54 AM

ddnet 0.7?

wat

ChillerDragon 14-Dec-19 10:22 AM

yes alpha @Deleted User

Deleted User 14-Dec-19 10:22 AM

ok

a gerdoe 14-Dec-19 02:32 PM

@Sonix second better

Deleted User 14-Dec-19 02:41 PM

Joined the server.

n000b 14-Dec-19 02:42 PM

Ban whis #ddosnobo

Deleted User 14-Dec-19 02:42 PM

lol

coany 14-Dec-19 06:12 PM

stay classy. @Deleted User

Trafalgar Law 14-Dec-19 06:16 PM

@Dune can you pls ban @Deleted User from this discord? He is ddosing randomly servers like my or @jxsl13 zCatch server..

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a gerdoe 14-Dec-19 06:35 PM

@redix nice idea

jxsl13 14-Dec-19 07:02 PM

dunno about ddos, might be a teeny tiny bit laggy sometimes :'( but we are gonna move servers soon

I don't really care, might shut them down if it becomes too much, there are enough hosters to host zCatch

Rick 14-Dec-19 11:07 PM

Joined the server.

Assa 14-Dec-19 11:33 PM

does anyone here play starcraft?

Dune 14-Dec-19 11:34 PM

rule 3, be relevant :p

Assa 14-Dec-19 11:35 PM

yeah i want to build TeeCraft

Dune 14-Dec-19 11:35 PM

that sounds very difficult

Assa 14-Dec-19 11:35 PM

this was totally not an excuse :p

Dune 14-Dec-19 11:35 PM

there are no selection mechanics whatsoever

wc3 is more doable

Assa 14-Dec-19 11:37 PM

I mean that as a joke, but now i wonder if I could get unit selection by calulating it self and using lasers as indicators

you could even do "hotkeys" with the spec preview feature

jxsl13 14-Dec-19 11:57 PM

you need to push the custom renerable entities issue

Assa 14-Dec-19 11:58 PM

i really need google MindUpload

jxsl13 14-Dec-19 11:58 PM

and problem solution download?

:?

Assa 14-Dec-19 11:58 PM

I am the bottleneck in my projects

jxsl13 14-Dec-19 11:58 PM

better clone yourself and do time travel

Assa 14-Dec-19 11:59 PM

a clone would only be usefull with a mindcopy

and/or mind merging

git pull origin clone

jxsl13 14-Dec-19 11:59 PM

how is one of those elon musk companies called?

brainlink?

something like that

Assa 15-Dec-19 12:00 AM

oh yeah

well, i don't know what to do when i get a merge conflict

Srush 15-Dec-19 02:13 AM

Joined the server.

Hey, haven't played this game in years and it looks like things have changed around here

Do people not play infection anymore?

And what happened to all the servers there used to be hundreds at a time now there's like 10-15

Is the game just not as popular anymore or do I have something wrong with my settings?

Dune 15-Dec-19 02:22 AM

hey Shrush. After a ddos attack on 0.6 and a new release, the playerbase is split between 0.6 and the new version, 0.7 i haven't seen any 0.7 infection server mod

Srush 15-Dec-19 02:30 AM

Oh okay

so there are inf servers on 0.6?

If so, where can I find a download to 0.6

And why are people sticking to an older version?

Dune 15-Dec-19 02:38 AM

a lot of mod and content creators aren't around, so some mods, like infection, haven't got ported. some content is only in 0.6 for now. you will find a download link to all teeworlds versions at https://teeworlds.com

Fudgy 15-Dec-19 02:51 AM

Am I the only one getting huge hashes appended to downloaded maps?

Dune 15-Dec-19 02:52 AM

isnt that the case since 073

Fudgy 15-Dec-19 02:52 AM

ye its been a while but I just ask now

it just looks bad in editor when you wanna load a map

Dune 15-Dec-19 02:53 AM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2055

Use more secure hash function for map downloads by heinrich5991 ·...

SHA256 was chosen because it is reasonably standard, the file names don't explode in length (this rules out SHA512) and it is supported by basically all versions of OpenSSL (this rules out ...

Fudgy 15-Dec-19 02:53 AM

also the map name often overlaps some text on the top right of editor

not a big deal but still

Srush 15-Dec-19 03:12 AM

is 0.6.5 the same as 0.6?

because I only see 1 server on there

n000b 15-Dec-19 03:18 AM

@Srush because of the ddos on the masterserver you need to refresh like 30 times

And yes 0.6.5 would be good

Srush 15-Dec-19 03:18 AM

refresh 30 times? sounds fun

Dune 15-Dec-19 03:18 AM

(hence 0.7)

@Fudgy yeah its unfortunate, no easy fix though

Fudgy 15-Dec-19 03:20 AM

ye on 0.6 better favorite every server lol

or join by ip if you know it

Srush 15-Dec-19 03:21 AM

damn, is there a story behind the ddos?

Dune 15-Dec-19 03:22 AM

there is an exploit that lets you ddos easily (or at least amplify your attack)

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/986

Added tokens to the network and refactored master server code (ple...

Summary Prevents ip spoofing of (hopefully) any kind: master server attack (see mailinglist) server flood attack session hijacking faking server info Protocol change The new network protocol head...

Chilli.* 15-Dec-19 11:21 AM

https://discord.gg/DNx9rM

fokkonaut 15-Dec-19 11:39 AM

@ChillerDragon

ChillerDragon 15-Dec-19 11:39 AM

U

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a gerdoe 15-Dec-19 01:20 PM

hm, maybe close up 0.6 masterservers

Dune 15-Dec-19 02:20 PM

@Srush nvm, theres an infection server

Srush 15-Dec-19 03:23 PM

Yeah I saw it but it was empty the entire day

Not nearly as populated as back then

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:07 PM

Hello everyone! As 0.7.4 is nearing, we have uploaded the final strings to Transifex and need your help for translations. Get your own language in Teeworlds! https://www.transifex.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/ If you find any string confusing, or you are not sure of the context, feel free to leave an issue on Transifex, or to ask us here. If you are new to Transifex, the (straightforward) process is described there: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10929 Thanks!

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Trafalgar Law 15-Dec-19 05:08 PM

Nice

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:16 PM

@Skayland @MertenNor @Savander @1stDecadeTW @heroiamarelo @PlayerException Thank you as well for your past work

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n000b 15-Dec-19 05:16 PM

@Dune how are the dutch translations?

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:18 PM

We would gladly get help on that. According to my dutch colleague, some of the existing translated strings are of poor quality, you can try to fix that as well

n000b 15-Dec-19 05:19 PM

Who did the translations in the past or did we use google translate?

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:20 PM

For dutch, several people, including TurtleMotion, arisoda, TortleWortle, vierkant and Vijfhoek

Pinned a message.

n000b 15-Dec-19 05:21 PM

Hmm funny, never heard of those xD

Thnx, i write down that i will take a look this week. Not sure i have enough time tho

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:22 PM

Thank you

n000b 15-Dec-19 05:22 PM

They are for sure no ddnet players btw :p

MertenNor 15-Dec-19 05:32 PM

Thanks for the update @Dune ! I'll finish translate Norwegian before the deadline

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:32 PM

Cool to hear, thanks for your renewed contribution @MertenNor

MertenNor 15-Dec-19 05:36 PM

Any big changes to .7.4? would like to add some simple game types to the official version some day haha maybe Ill just learn coding myself and get it in by .8.3

funny thing I was thinking the same thing back in .4.3

n000b 15-Dec-19 05:38 PM

@Dune oh wait when is the update? Then i can try to do it also before the deadline?

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:38 PM

@MertenNor coding is fun! next week-end, @n000b

n000b 15-Dec-19 05:38 PM

Thnx

MertenNor 15-Dec-19 05:39 PM

@n000b "We will lock translations after a week — that is, the 21st of December." (edited)

Trafalgar Law 15-Dec-19 05:39 PM

@Dune what do you mean with "Net" ?

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:40 PM

@Trafalgar Law this is a statboard column, you can see that in 0.7.3 (default bind is e). It's K-D, the net difference between frags and deaths

Trafalgar Law 15-Dec-19 05:41 PM

Ah

heinrich5991 15-Dec-19 05:41 PM

i.e. it's 2 if you killed 5 tees and died 3 times

or -5 if you killed 1 tee and died 6 times

MertenNor 15-Dec-19 05:43 PM

so a Kill - Death system

Skayland 15-Dec-19 05:46 PM

If i remember my transifex account i will update the spanish strings later

MertenNor 15-Dec-19 05:46 PM

possible to implement that into the menu like a total count? under the Settings -> Tee tab maybe? I know its late in development lol

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:47 PM

Thank you @Skayland You mean, saving stats @MertenNor ?

MertenNor 15-Dec-19 05:48 PM

yeah and seperate it from non modded and modded servers I know its allot of work

if server = official then > copy Kill / death at the end of the match to a file and make it just devide it it to get the kd

Dune 15-Dec-19 05:50 PM

there were some client mods like that yeah

MertenNor 15-Dec-19 05:50 PM

aah

Trafalgar Law 15-Dec-19 05:50 PM

'' has set a new record: " Wtf never seen in teeworlds (edited)

MertenNor 15-Dec-19 05:50 PM

never bothers with client mods lol exept for that race one back in the day

@Trafalgar Law same, cant wait for the changelog and test out the new features

Skayland 15-Dec-19 05:56 PM

A statboard would lead to more competition between players, it would be cool

MertenNor 15-Dec-19 05:58 PM

agree maybe a renewed friends list at some point would be cool or maybe just a leaderboard that you could filter by country and what not

Trafalgar Law 15-Dec-19 06:02 PM

Only 1 german sentence is there, but idk what that means

Dune 15-Dec-19 06:07 PM

@Skayland there is a statboard, defaults to e

Skayland 15-Dec-19 06:07 PM

Sorry, explained it wrong

Dune 15-Dec-19 06:08 PM

there is no central server so we can't have a leadboard

Skayland 15-Dec-19 06:08 PM

Are not the master servers some kind of central server?

Dune 15-Dec-19 06:10 PM

that's the only thing that couldn't be decentralized, yeah, and it's already a big weak point (ddos...)

Deleted User 15-Dec-19 06:12 PM

0.7 is insane

redix 15-Dec-19 06:13 PM

Top sprees are over 100

Dune 15-Dec-19 06:15 PM

+ UT announcers for the full experience :D

redix 15-Dec-19 06:15 PM

Always used them with the client pack

Dune 15-Dec-19 06:16 PM

oh, client pack had 'em?

Deleted User 15-Dec-19 06:16 PM

17 kills with my "skill" is insane but respect to the players that reach over 100

redix 15-Dec-19 06:17 PM

It supported spree sounds. Someone packed the ut sounds for it

Dune 15-Dec-19 06:18 PM

cough

redix 15-Dec-19 06:18 PM

Well when you go for 100+ spree you don't really take part in the game... You just go for kills in the middle

Dune 15-Dec-19 06:18 PM

Yeah that's not a positive imo

redix 15-Dec-19 06:18 PM

True

In general... Avoiding deaths in ctf always leads to a boring game

Skayland 15-Dec-19 06:29 PM

Just spam grenade

Assa 15-Dec-19 06:40 PM

you go for spawnkilling afk players

redix 15-Dec-19 06:43 PM

in ctf nothing besides the flag matters... you should only get points for captures or killing the carrier

a gerdoe 15-Dec-19 09:01 PM

i will try to add Татарча language

a gerdoe 15-Dec-19 09:13 PM

ah lol that Чуваш language had already added

a gerdoe 15-Dec-19 09:20 PM

i have an idea guys

before i used grassmain(any creator here) mapres (edited)

and i couldnt use automapper

maybe

can we make that mapres which name starts with grass_main can use automapper grass_main func in tw?

Fudgy 15-Dec-19 09:30 PM

you can if you copy paste the rules

Dune 15-Dec-19 09:30 PM

yeah

Fudgy 15-Dec-19 09:30 PM

in data/editor/automap

Assa 15-Dec-19 09:33 PM

cp grass_main.json grassmain(any creator here).json

a gerdoe 15-Dec-19 09:52 PM

i rhink that it must be as in-source shit without any interventions (edited)

yeah before i copypasted rules myself

Souly 15-Dec-19 10:07 PM

@Deleted User send skin

Dune 15-Dec-19 10:07 PM

just because mapres have similar names doesn't mean they have the same layout, this shouldn't be hardcoded. if you make a new mapres, make rules for it

jao 15-Dec-19 10:10 PM

make it optional

Deleted User 15-Dec-19 10:10 PM

@Souly 10 euros

no

i need to finish it later

Souly 15-Dec-19 10:11 PM

:c

Deleted User 15-Dec-19 10:11 PM

just wait a bit

Souly 15-Dec-19 10:11 PM

no u

a gerdoe 15-Dec-19 10:12 PM

however, each grassmain mapres which I know was copy version of default one, anyway I didnt see critical deferences (edited)

Deleted User 15-Dec-19 10:12 PM

u

a gerdoe 15-Dec-19 10:13 PM

@Deleted User are u active in tw again?

Souly 15-Dec-19 10:20 PM

Deleted User 15-Dec-19 10:24 PM

just wait

Souly 15-Dec-19 10:24 PM

no u

Deleted User 15-Dec-19 10:39 PM

U

Souly 15-Dec-19 10:41 PM

Deleted User 15-Dec-19 10:52 PM

@Souly

Souly 15-Dec-19 10:53 PM

?

Souly 15-Dec-19 11:13 PM

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 16-Dec-19 09:54 AM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365914264390729729/656056290711306251/JPEG_20191216_095326.jpg

heinrich5991 16-Dec-19 09:57 AM

Souly 16-Dec-19 10:44 AM

nice

Deleted User 16-Dec-19 12:05 PM

lol

a gerdoe 16-Dec-19 01:12 PM

ТРЕВОМАНА

тревомана or tpebomaha

a gerdoe 16-Dec-19 03:01 PM

what is crc mean?

jxsl13 16-Dec-19 03:10 PM

cyclic redundancy check

a gerdoe 16-Dec-19 03:10 PM

thanks

Dune 16-Dec-19 03:11 PM

probably don't translate that

a gerdoe 16-Dec-19 03:18 PM

too late xd

okey

Assa 16-Dec-19 03:19 PM

zyklischer Redundanz Test

i love it

Dune 16-Dec-19 03:23 PM

never too late to correct mistakes

a gerdoe 16-Dec-19 03:54 PM

Циклик Артыкларнын Тикшеру (edited)

nice translate

Dune 16-Dec-19 04:12 PM

length matters!

Assa 16-Dec-19 05:02 PM

that's what she said

Souly 16-Dec-19 05:13 PM

nice

Itara 16-Dec-19 05:41 PM

Joined the server.

Dask.7ven 16-Dec-19 05:41 PM

Joined the server.

Trafalgar Law 16-Dec-19 08:06 PM

Souly 17-Dec-19 03:47 AM

oooooooooooh

that server logo is great <3

just add some animation

like snowflakes or something

Gxods 17-Dec-19 03:59 AM

Joined the server.

Hi

a gerdoe 17-Dec-19 05:45 AM

@here check logo lol

fokkonaut 17-Dec-19 08:56 AM

Why is there a 7 in the picture of this channel?

Trafalgar Law 17-Dec-19 08:57 AM

0.7 i think

El BobLex 17-Dec-19 09:12 AM

Yeah it trolled me, was scrolling up to find out where the pings were

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KoleOBlack 17-Dec-19 09:18 AM

Is TW using DirectSound or DirectMusic for playing the ingame music-

Iman 17-Dec-19 10:01 AM

the tee of the christmas server picture is so cute !

i love it

Ryozuki 17-Dec-19 10:54 AM

@KoleOBlack probably whathever sdl choses, you can force it to use another iirc, why?

Tw probs uses the sdl sound system abstraction

KoleOBlack 17-Dec-19 10:56 AM

Ah okay

Assa 17-Dec-19 11:06 AM

when your teeworlds discord looks more like holiday then your home

teetow 17-Dec-19 11:32 AM

I thought DirectMusic was dead? That was their interactive MIDI stuff from ages ago

Terrorka (Tetra) 17-Dec-19 12:38 PM

@Dune What's going on? Why are Teeworlds in Discord upstairs and not in the middle of a folder? Что происходит? Почему Teeworlds в Discord наверху, а не в середине в папке? (edited)

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Assa 17-Dec-19 01:33 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra)what is this question?

you mean why Teeworlds isn't in the basement?

builder17 17-Dec-19 01:46 PM

the tee of the christmas server picture is so cute !

campfire but spooky 17-Dec-19 01:46 PM

Agreed

builder17 17-Dec-19 01:47 PM

:)

Assa 17-Dec-19 01:59 PM

Dear Santee, this year i wish for a new Teeworlds Version, with Race support and new skins

Капухик 17-Dec-19 02:06 PM

️

ChillerDragon 17-Dec-19 02:52 PM

omg

why does the discord server has a ping icon now dfq

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Johnnylew 17-Dec-19 03:19 PM

Just noticed?

Terrorka (Tetra) 17-Dec-19 03:56 PM

@Assa Teeworlds appear as new band in Discord

Trafalgar Law 17-Dec-19 03:57 PM

Dear Santee ban @Assa

KoleOBlack 17-Dec-19 04:00 PM

@teetow Yeah uh, Didn't Microsoft state that only the DirectMusic Producer and the Performance Layer were dead/deprecated?

teetow 17-Dec-19 04:44 PM

no idea, just haven't heard the term in ages

NudelBr0t 17-Dec-19 04:54 PM

Souly 17-Dec-19 05:03 PM

jxsl13 17-Dec-19 05:07 PM

Dear Santee gib money.

a gerdoe 17-Dec-19 06:34 PM

@Dune which day is translation deadline?

Dune 17-Dec-19 06:37 PM

https://teeworlds.com/?page=journal

a gerdoe 17-Dec-19 06:39 PM

4 days huh

hm, tatar lang version must have the "tatarstan super good" background music (edited)

Dune 17-Dec-19 06:44 PM

This can be patched in

a gerdoe 17-Dec-19 06:44 PM

easter egg in teeworlds

cool

Assa 17-Dec-19 06:50 PM

content creator should be an own job <.<

jxsl13 17-Dec-19 06:51 PM

it is, it's called Level Designer ._.

Skayland 17-Dec-19 07:39 PM

Just updated new spanish strings, rn im checking all the 401 of em

Dune 17-Dec-19 07:57 PM

Attachment: languages_0.7.4.zip (224.48 KB)

exported strings if you want to test ingame

n000b 17-Dec-19 08:07 PM

hey,

i fixed some translations. all the translations were already done tho

Dune 17-Dec-19 08:07 PM

0.7.4 doesn't add that many strings yeah :)

n000b 17-Dec-19 08:08 PM

@heinrich5991 i saw you also added some dutch translations. you used a translator or do you know dutch?

heinrich5991 17-Dec-19 08:09 PM

wat

if I did, then I did it on behalf of someone

n000b 17-Dec-19 08:09 PM

hmm ah okay

heinrich5991 17-Dec-19 08:10 PM

I would never™️ try to use a translator to create a translation

n000b 17-Dec-19 08:10 PM

there is one translation left tho. Joystick jitter tolerance. no idea how to translate it tho. maybe keep it like this?

Dune 17-Dec-19 08:11 PM

@heinrich5991 has a lot of translations in his name from before transifex iirc

@n000b "nervousness" for jitter maybe? idk dutch

n000b 17-Dec-19 08:12 PM

ah yeah i see XD

oko 17-Dec-19 08:12 PM

that seven on the icon is killing me

heinrich5991 17-Dec-19 08:12 PM

n000b 17-Dec-19 08:12 PM

okay wait. where do i get this sentence if i play teeworlds? because i don't even know what it really means XD

Skayland 17-Dec-19 08:13 PM

Jitter is a thing on joysticks

You will only see the string ingame if you "enable joystick" in controls tab, on settings

@n000b

I just translated it as jitter because i couldnt find a good translation to spanish

heinrich5991 17-Dec-19 08:15 PM

@Skayland @n000b instability perhaps?

Skayland 17-Dec-19 08:15 PM

Maybe

heinrich5991 17-Dec-19 08:16 PM

that probably has a translation into spanish

Skayland 17-Dec-19 08:16 PM

Yea that does

Dune 17-Dec-19 08:16 PM

Nervosité in french id say

heinrich5991 17-Dec-19 08:16 PM

the relevant word doesn't work in german, at least

Nervosität

Dune 17-Dec-19 08:17 PM

Or just joystick tolerance

n000b 17-Dec-19 08:20 PM

but jitter means that it is shaky or something like this? and with the message you will say that you can play the game with this or?

Skayland 17-Dec-19 08:20 PM

I think the setting is like a mouse sens one

With a bar

heinrich5991 17-Dec-19 08:20 PM

is it?

Skayland 17-Dec-19 08:20 PM

Idk, i dont use joystick

heinrich5991 17-Dec-19 08:21 PM

I would have thought that it tries to reduce the noise from the joystick

understanding the meaning is important for translations

@Dune ^

Xarrek 17-Dec-19 08:21 PM

what a clicbait server avatar

Skayland 17-Dec-19 08:22 PM

Lol

Xarrek 17-Dec-19 08:22 PM

Dune 17-Dec-19 08:22 PM

Yes heinrich

n000b 17-Dec-19 08:23 PM

ah yeah that is why i asked what this really means XD

good that i asked cause a normal translation wouldn't match the meaning

n000b 17-Dec-19 08:35 PM

can't make a nice translation. i guess for the dutch people this would make sense if they are known with joysticks. and i think therea re none cause there are almost no dutch players XD

Dune 17-Dec-19 09:16 PM

translating is harder than it seems

Assa 17-Dec-19 09:53 PM

it's more like a joistick trigger tolerance

or joystick deviation

mechanical deflection

Dune 17-Dec-19 10:24 PM

did no one make a Santee skin yet

(edited)

Souly 18-Dec-19 12:41 AM

i tried but with current assets it is hard for me :/ (edited)

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 18-Dec-19 02:54 AM

name aquired

Dororl 18-Dec-19 04:00 AM

Joined the server.

hello

i haven't played this game since years ago, i see it's still being updated, how many people play it on average?

Skayland 18-Dec-19 05:01 AM

70+ at any given time i guess

ShootXen 18-Dec-19 05:16 AM

Also depends which version

Deleted User 18-Dec-19 06:52 AM

Number on the Icon changed to 6?

2

Xarrek 18-Dec-19 07:46 AM

countdown to selfdestruction

oko 18-Dec-19 10:04 AM

ruh roh

Johnnylew 18-Dec-19 10:38 AM

At first I thought it was the Days Till Christmas

But nah

Iman 18-Dec-19 10:41 AM

it's

the

finaaal

countdown

i hope the song is stuck in ur head too now :D

Deleted User 18-Dec-19 11:35 AM

Countdown to new Version

3

Souly 18-Dec-19 03:14 PM

tw 0.7 update to 0.6

fokkonaut 18-Dec-19 03:19 PM

no, its the days left until christmas

Skayland 18-Dec-19 03:20 PM

Ohh

Original

ChillerDragon 18-Dec-19 03:25 PM

christmas sucks :/

NudelBr0t 18-Dec-19 03:34 PM

xd

Deleted User 18-Dec-19 03:38 PM

True

Souly 18-Dec-19 04:25 PM

@ChillerDragon no u

Dune 18-Dec-19 04:53 PM

Santee brought https://teeworlds.com/?page=journal&id=13342

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:12 PM

Thats nice

@Dune i updated my pr on server side commands

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:12 PM

I saw yeah

haven't tested but looks nice

some brackets are the wrong style

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:14 PM

Ah the habit

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:14 PM

I know the pain :D

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:15 PM

@Dune i was thinking a way for the client to request autocompletion values when typing a command idk if its worth

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:17 PM

sounds a bit heavy

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:17 PM

For things like player names you can predict it

But for strings not

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:18 PM

It's supposed to predict player names

does it still?

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:18 PM

Hmm let me check

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:19 PM

I was working on improving the UI a bit by having some highlight when pressing enter would send a command (as opposed to raw chat), and making it less ambiguous. Maybe something shell like

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:19 PM

I think it predicts for non server side

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:19 PM

What I got so far is not super pretty though

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:19 PM

That would be cool

You mean like a dedicated command chat

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:20 PM

yeah, change the "All:" prefix possibly

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:20 PM

The best way to provide good autocompletion would also be to have an argument parser

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:21 PM

or extend the white Rect to the / command

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:21 PM

We should handle args with spaces

So u use ""

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:21 PM

Problem is names have space

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:21 PM

Ye

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:21 PM

ideally would be a shell-like thing where pressing Tab when you have a name autocompletes with ""

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:21 PM

Yeo

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:21 PM

plenty of nice things to do if one has enough time :p

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:22 PM

Well ill work on it on christmas

Holidays

Dune 18-Dec-19 05:22 PM

Usually there is an activity spike at christmas

0.7.2 happened a month after 0.7.1 because of that

Ryozuki 18-Dec-19 05:22 PM

Souly 18-Dec-19 06:13 PM

so still no chat text copy option :c

Dune 18-Dec-19 06:14 PM

nope, there is no selection management

so it is not trivial

Souly 18-Dec-19 06:14 PM

@Dune how about adding that to console

Dune 18-Dec-19 06:15 PM

well, if someone does it, surely it'll get pulled

Souly 18-Dec-19 06:15 PM

n000b 18-Dec-19 07:08 PM

@Souly did i tag overyone or only everyone

Souly 18-Dec-19 07:28 PM

everyone

Dune 18-Dec-19 07:46 PM

@everyone is disabled here

Souly 18-Dec-19 07:48 PM

he tagged everyone

ChillerDragon 18-Dec-19 07:57 PM

good name

Squeezy 18-Dec-19 09:44 PM

You can just use user id to ping but ok.

Deleted User 18-Dec-19 09:48 PM

@here

lol

Souly 18-Dec-19 10:08 PM

@everyone

Iman 18-Dec-19 10:15 PM

xd

stampy 18-Dec-19 11:52 PM

Hi I hear about version 6, do more people play that or something ?

Dune 18-Dec-19 11:57 PM

depends on the game mode

Deleted User 19-Dec-19 12:56 AM

5

campfire but spooky 19-Dec-19 02:46 AM

you know

im just now realising that the teeworlds guy is counting down to christmas

Deleted User 19-Dec-19 02:54 AM

xd

Skayland 19-Dec-19 03:47 AM

Lol

5 days

Please christmas update with snow

n000b 19-Dec-19 07:09 AM

@stampy blocker ddnet and gores are for sure more popular.

Deleted User 19-Dec-19 07:14 AM

Lets wait for 0.7 block

1

fokkonaut 19-Dec-19 08:49 AM

i have 0.7 Block server

ChillerDragon 19-Dec-19 09:27 AM

Same

a gerdoe 19-Dec-19 09:49 AM

chill, fokko, please, you must add censorship to your servers

NudelBr0t 19-Dec-19 09:49 AM

a gerdoe 19-Dec-19 09:49 AM

players in age 4-12 are very toxic

jxsl13 19-Dec-19 09:58 AM

0-99

fokkonaut 19-Dec-19 10:07 AM

@a gerdoe no u

a gerdoe 19-Dec-19 10:37 AM

Ryozuki 19-Dec-19 01:14 PM

ez

ChillerDragon 19-Dec-19 01:51 PM

xd

much wowo catalan native

Assa 19-Dec-19 03:19 PM

@Dune ragequit?

jxsl13 19-Dec-19 03:58 PM

every 8th grader be like: ¡Catalan, lo hablo!

Deleted User 19-Dec-19 04:16 PM

wtf is this 5 thing

Skayland 19-Dec-19 04:23 PM

Days to christeemas @Deleted User (edited)

Deleted User 19-Dec-19 04:23 PM

oh

ok?

Deleted User 19-Dec-19 04:44 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 19-Dec-19 05:11 PM

Santee's journal: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal

11

jxsl13 19-Dec-19 06:41 PM

Santee me gusta!

Te quiero!

Hawajek 19-Dec-19 08:41 PM

ChillerDragon.* 19-Dec-19 08:57 PM

pls two way xd

ChillerDragon 19-Dec-19 11:45 PM

thanks

n000b 20-Dec-19 12:13 AM

I must say those chat features are awesome

Souly 20-Dec-19 01:23 AM

worstwish 20-Dec-19 06:16 PM

@Dune dont forget the best thing santee brought to u

and me

jxsl13 20-Dec-19 09:14 PM

@Dune the plz is purple (its the previous version of gamer)

Dune 20-Dec-19 09:16 PM

yeah it's a bug

I'll deal with that later

jxsl13 20-Dec-19 09:21 PM

mind opening an issue :o?

I don't care when you deal with it, just for the record x)

Dune 20-Dec-19 09:21 PM

I'll remember

jxsl13 20-Dec-19 09:21 PM

I doubt that

do whatever you want ._. I did my part

Assa 20-Dec-19 09:22 PM

i wonder if you could crash the client with this

Dune 20-Dec-19 09:22 PM

no

jxsl13 20-Dec-19 09:23 PM

it's just a text coloration issue

that's not supported

anymore

Assa 20-Dec-19 09:23 PM

^999 okay

Trafalgar Law 20-Dec-19 09:34 PM

@Dune we wait for Santee

Dune 20-Dec-19 11:27 PM

@Trafalgar Law were you were naughty?

Trafalgar Law 20-Dec-19 11:28 PM

No

Dune 20-Dec-19 11:28 PM

Santee decides!

Trafalgar Law 20-Dec-19 11:29 PM

Santee is coming to late today

Dune 20-Dec-19 11:32 PM

It's the last Friday before holidays and Santee's reindeers were caught in traffic jam near ctf5

Trafalgar Law 20-Dec-19 11:33 PM

You lie! You are Santee!1!11!!!1!!1

Dune 20-Dec-19 11:34 PM

Santee is no one but the spiritee of xmas

Trafalgar Law 20-Dec-19 11:35 PM

Santee has still 25 Min left

Dune 20-Dec-19 11:35 PM

Santee already came - if you saw no Santee, you were naughtee

Trafalgar Law 20-Dec-19 11:35 PM

ehhhhh

btw. is changing name without reconnecting coming in 0.7.4?

@Dune

Dune 20-Dec-19 11:38 PM

While skins changing was reintroduced with 0.7.3, the purpose of names is to identify each other, so this will stay

Server mods can work around this with a silent reconnect

You cannot reintroduce name changing in a backwards compatible way anyway, unlike skins

Iman 20-Dec-19 11:46 PM

what happened to dune he was dusty and sandy but the spiritee of christeemas changed him we need a fan art of a dune with xmas decorations on it xD (edited)

Dune 21-Dec-19 12:07 AM

He's making a list, he's checking it twice; he's gonna find out who's naughty or nice: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal

2

1

Trafalgar Law 21-Dec-19 12:07 AM

I'm nice * - *

3

Dune 21-Dec-19 12:26 AM

While I'm at it, Hedgewars is another retro 2D FOSS game of the kind that is Teeworlds' elder by a year... and they recently got their 1.0.0 release! They sure work faster than those lazy Teeworlds devs, so go check them out: https://www.hedgewars.org/

Hedgewars

Hedgewars! It's a blast!

Trafalgar Law 21-Dec-19 12:40 AM

@Zatline i like the skins where you added, but please dont block the name greyfox if its different to the normal greyfox. https://i.imgur.com/IlY6rFA.png The left one is the real Greyfox where all used in 0.6, you can't replace this with a different skin

jxsl13 21-Dec-19 12:47 AM

ingame browser looks nice, how well does it handle 64 players :o

near ctf5 .... it's ctf2!

Skayland 21-Dec-19 01:17 AM

It would be cool to have an official skin database, but i guess thats not possible right now

Trafalgar Law 21-Dec-19 01:18 AM

True but its not right and not fair to replace that sick skin :/

Keep Promises 21-Dec-19 01:35 AM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 21-Dec-19 01:42 AM

It's not sick, just an overused Gores-starter-noob skin

Trafalgar Law 21-Dec-19 01:42 AM

Cool story

Skayland 21-Dec-19 01:42 AM

Its still a cool skin and people like it

Regardless of playing or not gores

Deleted User 21-Dec-19 01:44 AM

tbh i dont care, i drawed a lot of my skins 0.7 rdy

Skayland 21-Dec-19 01:44 AM

Is kintaro one of your skins?

Or who made "kintaro_2"? Because thats the skin i used on 0.6

Trafalgar Law 21-Dec-19 01:46 AM

Wait @Deleted User you created the best skin ever?

Deleted User 21-Dec-19 01:46 AM

no u

dont ping me

Trafalgar Law 21-Dec-19 01:46 AM

cry

Skayland 21-Dec-19 01:46 AM

@Deleted User i will pay you to make me a skin, got paypal?

Deleted User 21-Dec-19 01:47 AM

ofc i got paypal lol but no dont pay me oO

Skayland 21-Dec-19 01:47 AM

Just kidding

3

Johnnylew 21-Dec-19 02:31 AM

anybody wanna play?

I like duels

jxsl13 21-Dec-19 02:51 AM

._. need a player more on zCatch for testing stuff

Johnnylew 21-Dec-19 03:33 AM

@jxsl13 where tho?

jxsl13 21-Dec-19 03:45 AM

Simply zCatch Grenade, but I'm doing fine ._.

slinacK 21-Dec-19 06:01 AM

uh, can anyone reproduce this thing, where you hold +left and you can't switch to hammer? lol wtf

0.7.3.1 i think

slinacK 21-Dec-19 06:08 AM

might be my keyboard idk

Dune 21-Dec-19 09:01 AM

Haven't heard of that, how do you switch to hammer?

Deleted User 21-Dec-19 11:13 AM

Santroll

Deleted User 21-Dec-19 11:53 AM

oh no

Dune 21-Dec-19 02:49 PM

Last day for the translations! So far we have Catalan, Chinese (CN, HK, TW), Spanish, French, Norwegian, German, Portuguese, Dutch, Russian all done thanks to @a gerdoe, @Ryozuki , @n000b, @MertenNor, @Skayland, Nalhrac, Texas, Freddie, Baloon, Tempral, Luser, Vistaus, minam. Thank you guys!

Serbian, Ukrainian and Portuguese still need some work

Skayland 21-Dec-19 02:50 PM

Ryozuki 21-Dec-19 02:58 PM

TNT 21-Dec-19 03:43 PM

hello ! for the gctf tournament, here is the stream !

https://www.twitch.tv/corpteeworlds

CorpTeeworlds - Twitch

Winter gCTF tournament !

2

Trafalgar Law 21-Dec-19 03:51 PM

Santee @Dune 3 days left ❤️

Trexus 21-Dec-19 05:05 PM

@Zeral

@Zeral you just blocked me and leaved gctf server you surck

Deleted User 21-Dec-19 06:26 PM

Souly 21-Dec-19 06:27 PM

@Deleted User make some skins for 0.7

Deleted User 21-Dec-19 06:40 PM

hmh

no

Souly 21-Dec-19 07:20 PM

:c

yes

Luckypewds 21-Dec-19 10:29 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 21-Dec-19 11:14 PM

ah

right

21th over

Trafalgar Law 21-Dec-19 11:17 PM

Santee is today really late

Iman 21-Dec-19 11:19 PM

santee got a lot of presents to bring on his list

i think he is busy

Dune 21-Dec-19 11:54 PM

Santee had a lot of naughty tees to deal with

Santee knows when you're awake, so be good for goodness' sake! https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal

Trafalgar Law 22-Dec-19 12:14 AM

Who is naughty @Dune i will find them

Dune 22-Dec-19 12:17 AM

You soundike the Whipping Father: https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_P%C3%A8re_Fouettard

Le_P%C3%A8re_Fouettard

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 02:01 AM

Santee should have made a Game of Thrones reference: Winter is coming... to Teeworlds

Souly 22-Dec-19 02:03 AM

santee should add more skin parts

Sonix 22-Dec-19 02:20 AM

santee threads may have hinted some, who knows

Akk0n 22-Dec-19 02:27 AM

Joined the server.

Souly 22-Dec-19 03:24 AM

gooooooooooooooooooood

those new skin parts

Skayland 22-Dec-19 09:35 AM

Custom themes

Ok now this is epic, this is real shit we got here, 100% approved, good update is coming

Sonix 22-Dec-19 10:36 AM

Custom themes are already possible since 0.7.0 (edited)

1

Trafalgar Law 22-Dec-19 02:22 PM

@Deleted User I have one question to you. Do you have fun to do that?

Dune 22-Dec-19 02:24 PM

Don't ping people just to start a fight please

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 02:32 PM

on the last day of christeemas santee gave to me, a ban from multimap for trolling

i got banned too

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 02:34 PM

:monka_feelsbad:

2

Souly 22-Dec-19 03:01 PM

i troll on multimap everyday lmao

Skayland 22-Dec-19 03:02 PM

Me too

But on 0.6

Im still not a 0.7 regular player

Souly 22-Dec-19 03:03 PM

someone should make block map with that multimap part

Skayland 22-Dec-19 03:03 PM

Which part?

Screenshot

Souly 22-Dec-19 03:06 PM

@Skayland

Skayland 22-Dec-19 03:06 PM

K

I had a blmap4 upgrade i never hosted

May add that there

But i would need someone with a server to host a blocker server

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 03:07 PM

basically that part and above the finish

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 03:30 PM

thats basically a huge troll part

Dune 22-Dec-19 04:52 PM

[2019-12-22 16:51:06][localization]: skipping invalid entry or:'%s is muted by you', tr:'вас заглушили'

@a gerdoe please fix, what is the correct string?

@Terrorka (Tetra) you'd know?

FerZ 22-Dec-19 04:54 PM

Dune my servers are not showing up

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 04:54 PM

@Dune Where? What? What are you talking about? Get me up to speed. (edited)

@Dune If you're talking about translating "%s is muted by you" correctly, it's most likely (If I got the source value right) "%s заглушил тебя".

Dune 22-Dec-19 04:58 PM

thanks @Terrorka (Tetra)

NudelBr0t 22-Dec-19 04:59 PM

/:

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:00 PM

@FerZ you have to open ports

most likely

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:00 PM

@Dune That's if the original phrase translates to "Somebody muted you", not "Somebody was muted you".

Sorry, I'm really bad at English, what did you have in the lead?

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:01 PM

somebody was muted by you = you muted somebody @Terrorka (Tetra)

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:02 PM

Аааа

Did you shut his mouth or did he shut your mouth?

It's easier that way.

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:03 PM

You shut his mouth

%s вас заглушили?

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:03 PM

%s был заглушен тобой

Although it would be more correct "Ты заглушил %s"

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:04 PM

But it's something that happened in the past

It's a reminder, to remember

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:05 PM

Then "%s был заглушен тобой"

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:06 PM

ok thanks

https://www.transifex.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/translate/#ru/teeworlds/188668431?q=text%3Amuted

0.7.4 released! (Page 1) — News — Teeworlds Forum

Log in to your Transifex account. Or sign up to start your own project or help translate an existing one.

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:07 PM

Ahaha

Добро пожаловать, $(name)!

Russian 100%

I am powerless.

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:09 PM

man, don't let people who use google translate do the translations. gj, @Terrorka (Tetra)

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:10 PM

Aaa

sry?

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:10 PM

I think it's more of a misunderstanding of english

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:10 PM

no, I think you did not translate the stuff with google translator, I mean good job doing the proper translations

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:11 PM

Man

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:11 PM

and fixing the google translator stuff

uff, cool

you the proper man for the job

(or maybe girl)

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 05:13 PM

it look really ugly i guess, would nice if tw team go and rework this graphic

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:13 PM

u part of team tw, @Deleted User ?

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 05:13 PM

no

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:13 PM

but you play the game, so you are part of Team Teeworlds

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 05:14 PM

oh wow xD

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:14 PM

everyone here is part of it

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 05:14 PM

i can rework it later when i dont forget it

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:14 PM

imma remind you >:o

x)

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 05:14 PM

yea

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:15 PM

@Deleted User you can easily change it locally and show us how it looks better

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 05:15 PM

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:18 PM

engurish channel ._.

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:23 PM

@Dune '1%s'?

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:23 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) means first string

those numbers let you swap strings

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:23 PM

Ааа

OK

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:36 PM

Who translated "Try again" as "Okey(yes)."?? (edited)

Skayland 22-Dec-19 05:41 PM

Wtf

Someone gotta review all these weird translations

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:41 PM

In the process.

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:43 PM

told you ._.

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:48 PM

if everyone thinks "someone gotta do it", no one does it

Skayland 22-Dec-19 05:49 PM

I did review the spanish strings

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:50 PM

but I agree it is difficult to test ingame because of the lack of out-of-source builds

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:50 PM

What does Ukrainian have to do with it?

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:50 PM

There is ukrainian?

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:51 PM

I know why the Ukrainian translation is in Russian?

@Dune @jxsl13 I checked it out. I hope to see my translation in the next versions of the game.

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:57 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) I'll patch it up, you say there is ukranian? or ukranian is russian?

It's confusing sry

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:58 PM

There was a Ukrainian language in Russian translation.

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 05:58 PM

cool stuff ._.

Skayland 22-Dec-19 05:58 PM

So

Someone translated english to ukranian in the russian section? Or maybe it was a transifex merge error or something

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 05:59 PM

1

Dune 22-Dec-19 05:59 PM

we don't have a way to check for those things unfortunately

@Terrorka (Tetra) did you send your translations? I don't see them yet

Last activity by --- 6 minutes ago

aight sorry

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 06:01 PM

Yeah, I already have them.

Write me if you need to translate something into Russian.

3

Dune 22-Dec-19 06:04 PM

Thanks

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 06:17 PM

jxsl13 you dont need to remind me

Assa 22-Dec-19 06:34 PM

hey, can you explain the server sided chat commands feature a bit? I want to update my mods

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 06:35 PM

@Deleted User we need a rework of that one icon there

Assa 22-Dec-19 06:35 PM

huh, wanted to write that in the bridge

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 06:52 PM

where can i translate?

Dune 22-Dec-19 06:58 PM

@Deleted User https://teeworlds.com/?page=journal&id=13339

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 06:59 PM

Saturday was yesterday... Shit.

@Dune, who are you, anyway?

Dune 22-Dec-19 07:03 PM

in what context?

jxsl13 22-Dec-19 07:03 PM

he's a mountain of sand, basically

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 07:14 PM

serbian has both cyrillic and latin

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 07:17 PM

@Dune yeah, whats the matter?

@Terrorka (Tetra) lol, that arion is badass

Dune 22-Dec-19 07:18 PM

@a gerdoe was requesting for help with russian, @Terrorka (Tetra) obliged

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 07:19 PM

ukranian translation had written in russian (edited)

yeh?

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 07:20 PM

@a gerdoe Я исправил

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 07:20 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) где живешь? могу еще с кое-кем познакомить

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 07:21 PM

@a gerdoe Объективно в России, но так в СПБ

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 07:22 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) киевчане интересуют?)

Terrorka (Tetra) 22-Dec-19 07:22 PM

@a gerdoe В каком плане?

Dune 22-Dec-19 07:23 PM

switch to private messages if you want to moonspeak ;)

@a gerdoe yes

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 07:31 PM

I can fix my translations at january

anyway tatarlar is good nation

Dune 22-Dec-19 07:39 PM

@a gerdoe which regions speak tartar?

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 07:40 PM

hahah, tartar. Republic Tatarstan, Russian Federation

many memes with our "supernational thing" are staying in russian internet segment (edited)

oh, last wrong

Dune 22-Dec-19 07:50 PM

no meme flood please

Souly 22-Dec-19 07:59 PM

Deleted User 22-Dec-19 07:59 PM

is there some sort of more "traditional" serbian thats cyrillic?

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 08:08 PM

no meme flood please

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 08:45 PM

is teecode documentation done?

Ryozuki 22-Dec-19 08:45 PM

whats that

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 08:46 PM

class hierarchy

Ryozuki 22-Dec-19 08:46 PM

i mean teecode

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 08:47 PM

teeworlds source

Dune 22-Dec-19 08:47 PM

no

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 08:48 PM

did documentation writing start, huh?

Dune 22-Dec-19 08:49 PM

no

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 08:51 PM

nice

which unix os is almost good for the beginning?

Ryozuki 22-Dec-19 08:59 PM

ubuntu for nobos

Dune 22-Dec-19 08:59 PM

mac is definitely the most user friendly

Ryozuki 22-Dec-19 09:00 PM

u said unix on purpose?

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 09:12 PM

free unix os*

on purpose?

I gonna make 2-os pc

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 09:42 PM

ububtu have ugly interface

Dune 22-Dec-19 09:43 PM

mint then :)

Ryozuki 22-Dec-19 09:51 PM

if u prefer kde then kubuntu

ChillerDragon 22-Dec-19 09:52 PM

debian best

Trafalgar Law 22-Dec-19 09:52 PM

ubuntu

Ryozuki 22-Dec-19 09:52 PM

arch best

a gerdoe 22-Dec-19 09:55 PM

okey i will try debian os

ChillerDragon 22-Dec-19 09:55 PM

yay

arch isnt too beginner friendly as far as i know :p

debian is idiot save evne i could use it

Skayland 22-Dec-19 11:30 PM

I've had ubuntu, xubuntu and linux mint so far and all of them were cool

Topic change

Past year (or around beggining of 2019) i used a site to host teeworlds server. It was free and all you had to do is upload a map and it would host it (ddrace only) I think it was a germany server, 0.6, does anyone remember the site im talking about?

It was a map testing thing

Dune 22-Dec-19 11:34 PM

Matias does this nowadays

Skayland 22-Dec-19 11:36 PM

Does he have a site?

Assa 22-Dec-19 11:37 PM

you can find it in the teeworlds.com forum

Dune 22-Dec-19 11:41 PM

he is @MatiasMunk here

n000b 22-Dec-19 11:58 PM

@Skayland it is still available on 0.6

Skayland 22-Dec-19 11:58 PM

primhosting.com i guess? The website doesnt load

n000b 22-Dec-19 11:58 PM

Trashmap.timkaro.de or something like this

Google it and you will find what you are looking for. It is only for 0.6 servers tho

Skayland 22-Dec-19 11:59 PM

Oh yhea thats what i was searching for i think

Thanks a lot

The website doesnt load though

Weird

Gotta restart my internet just in case

Still doesnt work, guess its offline or something

Dune 23-Dec-19 12:12 AM

This is not a countdown to xmas... https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal

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Deleted User 23-Dec-19 12:14 AM

I was right

ChillerDragon 23-Dec-19 01:43 AM

@MatiasMunk what happend to https://primhosting.com/cart.php

Skayland 23-Dec-19 01:44 AM

Server icon has only 1 day left !!!!

Souly 23-Dec-19 01:45 AM

1 day

ATTENTIVE 23-Dec-19 02:57 AM

Joined the server.

n000b 23-Dec-19 07:49 AM

@Skayland hmm strange, it doesn't work indeed

Assa 23-Dec-19 09:26 AM

yeah, finally some free time where i can sleep until i wake up - * wakes up at 8 every day *

AxelYT 23-Dec-19 11:19 AM

@Souly, for what?

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 12:40 PM

@a gerdoe Clear debian is bad, use litelinux or ubuntu-compatible. It would be the best solution

@a gerdoe

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heinrich5991 23-Dec-19 12:47 PM

debian is fine

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 12:51 PM

debian it hurts, he needs os for a rookie.

heinrich5991 23-Dec-19 01:02 PM

debian comes with a perfectly fine installer

ubuntu also comes with one, so that would work as well

3

Assa 23-Dec-19 01:12 PM

My windows is usually more broken then my ubuntu

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 01:27 PM

debian installer is way easier now than before

ChillerDragon 23-Dec-19 01:34 PM

wasnt it torvalds who said on some deb conf debian installed was too confuing for me so he rq

Sneak 23-Dec-19 02:14 PM

Hi, I'm searching out a gores mode for teeworlds 0.7, kinda the same as the actual KoG servs + if someone already converted some maps

Would be perfect ^^

ChillerDragon 23-Dec-19 02:15 PM

there is offical KoG in 0.7 @Sneak

we are currently working on convertig the maps

but with entities all are playable

Sneak 23-Dec-19 02:16 PM

jup, but I would need to make some "private" servers

ChillerDragon 23-Dec-19 02:16 PM

use ddnet7 then

Sneak 23-Dec-19 02:16 PM

oh, yep

thanks!

ChillerDragon 23-Dec-19 02:17 PM

there is no binary release do you know how to compile it?

Sneak 23-Dec-19 02:18 PM

y

ChillerDragon 23-Dec-19 02:19 PM

ok cool

Sneak 23-Dec-19 02:21 PM

thanks!

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 02:32 PM

Player limit of 64?

ChillerDragon 23-Dec-19 02:36 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) ?

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 02:37 PM

@ChillerDragon The maximum number of players on the server is 64?

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 02:39 PM

yes

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 02:39 PM

Bad

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 02:39 PM

?

its the teeworlds standard

since one year, before it was 16

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 02:40 PM

I wish we could all go out together.

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 03:42 PM

255 players max when

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 03:52 PM

i made a 256p version for 0.6

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 03:53 PM

pog

Sonix 23-Dec-19 04:04 PM

Hype 0.7.4 is here

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:06 PM

Teeworlds 0.7.4 is out! Trailer: https://youtu.be/4KDsXsgw-vY News: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=13358 Downloads: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=downloads Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/380840/Teeworlds/ Changelog (major changes):

+ Race mode integration (client-side) + In-game server browser + Chat pages & upgrades + Statboard upgrade + Winter background theme + Wide menus mode + Server-side chat commands integration + 24 new skins, colorable eyes, and many more body parts to use

Full changelog: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=journal @everyone

LordSk

Teeworlds 0.7.4

Teeworlds 0.7.4 trailer Music: "Silvermansound - Christmas Spirit" is under a Creative Commons license (CC BY 4.0). Music promoted by BreakingCopyright: http://bit.ly/2S6n53G

0.7.4 released! (Page 1) — News — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

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Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:06 PM

ChRIstMas`iPro 23-Dec-19 04:06 PM

YES

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:06 PM

that ping legit crashed my desktop

Trafalgar Law 23-Dec-19 04:06 PM

HYPE

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:06 PM

anyways pog

ChRIstMas`iPro 23-Dec-19 04:06 PM

h y p e

Assa 23-Dec-19 04:06 PM

insane video

wher can i play this mod?

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:07 PM

instant download

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 04:07 PM

lmao that trailer

ChRIstMas`iPro 23-Dec-19 04:07 PM

please make it work with ubuntu

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:07 PM

Pinned a message.

4

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 04:07 PM

no steam update

ChRIstMas`iPro 23-Dec-19 04:08 PM

ew steam

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:08 PM

santee fucking kidnapped tees and put them into boxes

KoleOBlack 23-Dec-19 04:08 PM

Bruh

twisting 23-Dec-19 04:08 PM

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 04:08 PM

cursed video

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:08 PM

@fokkonaut steam done

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 04:08 PM

tee kidnapping

DEXi 23-Dec-19 04:08 PM

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:09 PM

wtf

executable dont work

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 04:09 PM

cant start ot

it

xd

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:09 PM

:justatest:

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:09 PM

OS?

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 04:09 PM

windows

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:09 PM

linux

Jesus Christ 23-Dec-19 04:10 PM

2

Skayland 23-Dec-19 04:10 PM

Time to play

C:

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:10 PM

works fine for me

feelsbadman

Destin 23-Dec-19 04:11 PM

@Deleted User troll

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:11 PM

U

Assa 23-Dec-19 04:11 PM

had to restart steam

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:11 PM

ill try it on winducks

wintroll

MertenNor 23-Dec-19 04:12 PM

Any .7.4 servers up?

Assa 23-Dec-19 04:12 PM

i love the heart marks ❤️

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 04:12 PM

works for me

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:13 PM

@Deleted User troll

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 04:13 PM

new skins are dope

Trafalgar Law 23-Dec-19 04:13 PM

Oh come one why is there still the fake greyfox skin

<.<

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:13 PM

nobody cares about greyfox

Trafalgar Law 23-Dec-19 04:13 PM

nobody cares about u

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:14 PM

Trafalgar Law 23-Dec-19 04:14 PM

Deleted User 23-Dec-19 04:14 PM

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 04:15 PM

Hell, some phrases in Russian didn't fit.

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:15 PM

@fokkonaut tried 32bit and 64bit?

kotC9 23-Dec-19 04:16 PM

ахуеть

а зачем обновление

без антипинга

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 04:16 PM

i just downloaded the 64 bit version from teeworlds.com now and replaced the steam binaries with it, works now

kotC9 23-Dec-19 04:16 PM

@Dune where is antiping?

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:16 PM

but you couldn't start it?

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 04:16 PM

@Dune but the version that came with steam didnt start for me, at leats not through steam itself, didnt test any more

now it works with the teeworlds.com version

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 04:17 PM

@Dune What to do with phrases that don't fit in?

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:17 PM

shorten them @Terrorka (Tetra)

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 04:17 PM

It's Russian, dude.

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 04:18 PM

@Dune bug, when you hold statboard, press esc and release it, close esc again, the statboard will stay opened

until you press it again

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jxsl13 23-Dec-19 04:18 PM

that's a feature

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 04:19 PM

Although if you're tense, you can shorten it.

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:19 PM

@fokkonaut this is so you can contemplate your skill at all times

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 04:19 PM

?

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:20 PM

right, thanks for the report :)

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 04:20 PM

i have a different chat bind: bind t "chat all; emote 4"

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 04:20 PM

tees dont change eyes when using a emoji?

or its just a ddnet thing

emote*

heinrich5991 23-Dec-19 04:21 PM

ddnet

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 04:21 PM

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:21 PM

eye emotes are used for gameplay

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 04:21 PM

idk if its a bug, but i lost my favourited servers

had to readd them

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 04:22 PM

the 0.7.4 has a new config file

settings07.cfg or so

?

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 04:22 PM

still it ports it iirc

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 04:22 PM

oh, dunno

Dune 23-Dec-19 04:22 PM

yes it does

DEXi 23-Dec-19 04:23 PM

eye colors slider doesn't smooth...,.

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Dec-19 04:23 PM

@Dune By the way, why aren't we translating the editor?

Rimso 23-Dec-19 04:28 PM

Hi ! I'm looking for TeeRace server, you know where can I find it ?

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 04:29 PM

in the 0.7 client browser ._.?

Rimso 23-Dec-19 04:30 PM

I mean, the source code

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 04:30 PM

ah

ehm, github

alxbl is I think the name

norbexactly sure atm

not

ᶰ°Konͧsti 23-Dec-19 04:31 PM

i am the biggest noby

Rimso 23-Dec-19 04:32 PM

nope :/

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 04:33 PM

https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds/tree/race

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to axblk/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 23-Dec-19 04:33 PM

Great!

Where are the ddnet servers?

And client

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 04:34 PM

there is no such thing for 0.7

maybe the mod somewhere

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 23-Dec-19 04:34 PM

Affirmative

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 04:34 PM

the server mod

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 23-Dec-19 04:34 PM

Ues yes

redix 23-Dec-19 04:34 PM

Here is the server mod: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet7

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1636

DDNet port to TW 0.7. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet7 development by creating an account on GitHub.

there is no ddnet client for 0.7 (yet)

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 04:35 PM

no comment on that

ChillerDragon 23-Dec-19 04:40 PM

@!ʎø1øʞıƝg there is a ddrace client for 0.7 https://zillywoods.github.io/ZillyWoods-web/

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Captain_AMN 23-Dec-19 04:53 PM

sick

Rimso 23-Dec-19 05:00 PM

@jxsl13 worked thank you ^^ but without rescue or swap command

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 05:05 PM

0.7.4 no eyes

Sonix 23-Dec-19 05:11 PM

missing eyes file

Dune 23-Dec-19 05:11 PM

@LordSk

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:12 PM

Hum perhaps a marking?

Skayland 23-Dec-19 05:13 PM

or maybe its just the color?

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:13 PM

there is a fix in place for the body color already

yeah...

Sonix 23-Dec-19 05:22 PM

redix 23-Dec-19 05:23 PM

0.7.4.1 incoming?

Trafalgar Law 23-Dec-19 05:23 PM

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:23 PM

@redix snapshots might also be broken

Dune 23-Dec-19 05:23 PM

how so?

redix 23-Dec-19 05:24 PM

why

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:24 PM

I am messaging a guy, his internet is fine, the snapshots are not

he says it only happenned after updating

redix 23-Dec-19 05:24 PM

any logs? =\

Dune 23-Dec-19 05:25 PM

what makes you think it's the snapshots tho?

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:25 PM

I'll report back

redix 23-Dec-19 05:25 PM

i used that code for some time now. never experienced any problems =\

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:25 PM

oh yeah same here

but it is not the first report I see like this

It might not be snapshot related, it could even be completely unrelated to teeworlds

Dune 23-Dec-19 05:26 PM

some people with otherwise no network lag tend to have some lag on teeworlds

redix 23-Dec-19 05:27 PM

tw is pretty sensitive to latency and packet loss

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:27 PM

Hmm

redix 23-Dec-19 05:28 PM

and is needs rather long to recover from a lag

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:28 PM

It seemed fine from what he showed

redix 23-Dec-19 05:29 PM

but i think in 2d lags are more noticable than in 3d in general

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:30 PM

he says that he can't even play though, I don't think he's being dramatic

redix 23-Dec-19 05:31 PM

is there any log with debug 1

?

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:34 PM

Not sure

Dune 23-Dec-19 05:35 PM

@redix yeah whenever my dad uses his computer I can't play, other games behave better

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:37 PM

There was a guy saying he could not play 0.7 either, only 0.6

WaRNe0nx3 23-Dec-19 05:37 PM

does 0.7.4 have 4k support?

LordSk 23-Dec-19 05:38 PM

I don't remember his nickname though

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 05:38 PM

I think teeworlds supports nearly every resolution there is.

redix 23-Dec-19 05:45 PM

some icons and some texts are a bit blurred with high resolutions

Dune 23-Dec-19 05:46 PM

@WaRNe0nx3 HighDPI support is just in, yes :)

it's in the changelog (https://teeworlds.com/?page=journal&id=13357)

WaRNe0nx3 23-Dec-19 05:52 PM

nice

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 05:52 PM

@Ryozuki server crashes while adding a command, in GetCommand(): if(m_aCommands[i].m_Used && str_comp(m_aCommands[i].m_aName, pName) == 0) (edited)

Dune 23-Dec-19 05:53 PM

strange, worked fine with my tests

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 05:54 PM

For me it doesnt

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 05:55 PM

u might do smth wrong

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 05:55 PM

how? i just use AddCommand("string", "string", "string", callback)

it fails while accessing m_aCommands in GetCommand()

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 05:56 PM

where do u do it

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 05:56 PM

from gamecontext

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 05:56 PM

where

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 05:56 PM

ah i might know it

one sec

Assa 23-Dec-19 05:56 PM

i would do it in the constructor <.<

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 05:56 PM

u need to be sure

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 05:56 PM

yea

controller didnt exist yet

thanks

Ryozuki 23-Dec-19 05:57 PM

the gamecontroller is there

yep

better do it in the gamecontroller

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 05:59 PM

This will be a lot of work

im not gonna do that xd

i mean to make this compatible with the ddnet chat command system

since this doesnt send a chat msg anymore

Dune 23-Dec-19 06:00 PM

better do it cleanly so you don't have to deal with merge issues

fokkonaut 23-Dec-19 06:01 PM

yea no i dont do anything xd

ShootXen 23-Dec-19 07:46 PM

I'm surprised that Oy agreed to all this stuff in 0.7.4

Assa 23-Dec-19 07:55 PM

he didn't

3

if the community wants a feature enough, what should a dev do

jxsl13 23-Dec-19 07:59 PM

tw seemingly going forward to better mod support

Dune 23-Dec-19 08:07 PM

@Assa ? he did

a gerdoe 23-Dec-19 08:11 PM

0.7.4.1 is coming, huh

Assa 23-Dec-19 08:13 PM

@Dune i looked the ingame browser feature up, it was you who diddn't want it (at least in it's current state)

LordSk 23-Dec-19 08:14 PM

@Assa link?

Dune 23-Dec-19 08:14 PM

I was one of the first if not the first to use that back in 0.5 :p

There were concerns of people afking and some talk yeah

Assa 23-Dec-19 08:15 PM

Add server browser from ingame by nheir · Pull Request #1636 · t...

Proposal for #1552 Use same mechanism as settings from ingame menu.

I think this is the comment with the most dislikes in teeworlds

a gerdoe 23-Dec-19 08:17 PM

that will be cool if chat will be added in the editor

Assa 23-Dec-19 08:19 PM

To clarify: i just wanted to show a case, where the communtiy disliked your decision and where it came other. Iam not here to bash anyone

Dune 23-Dec-19 08:20 PM

You misunderstand though, I was proposing a compromise between people who want the feature and people who were concerned about squatting slots unnecessarily. If you played 0.5, you'd know I'm not against that feature :P

Also, make no misunderstanding, anything that got in Teeworlds 0.7.4 got Oy's approval

ShootXen 23-Dec-19 08:26 PM

you can ignore there thumpsdown

all trolls

Assa 23-Dec-19 08:27 PM

@ShootXen I think not in this case at this rate

ShootXen 23-Dec-19 08:27 PM

._.

Assa 23-Dec-19 08:28 PM

the teeworlds github isn't active enough for trolls

except me ofc

ShootXen 23-Dec-19 08:28 PM

chiller

a gerdoe 23-Dec-19 08:35 PM

ahah

Skayland 23-Dec-19 10:50 PM

@Souly i got my blocker map, it has the multimap part you told me

But its on 0.6

If anyone wanna join ip is trashmap.ddnet.tw:8561

Or you can browse it as ddnet ger trashmap

Souly 23-Dec-19 10:59 PM

gonna check it

Skayland 23-Dec-19 11:12 PM

8 players so far

heinrich5991 23-Dec-19 11:59 PM

ohhhh, snow

Dune 23-Dec-19 11:59 PM

Trafalgar Law 24-Dec-19 12:00 AM

Santee!

Souly 24-Dec-19 12:07 AM

christmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas

its christmas

Dune 24-Dec-19 12:09 AM

I see there is a german santee as well

Trafalgar Law 24-Dec-19 12:10 AM

WHERE

WHO

Dune 24-Dec-19 12:10 AM

on the ddracenet server

Trafalgar Law 24-Dec-19 12:11 AM

Is Santee coming today * . *?

He is cominggggg

Dune 24-Dec-19 12:15 AM

NudelBr0t 24-Dec-19 12:20 AM

Souly 24-Dec-19 01:24 AM

yay

animated logo

Deleted User 24-Dec-19 01:24 AM

christmas sux oO

Souly 24-Dec-19 01:27 AM

@Deleted User

get

out

ShootXen 24-Dec-19 02:06 AM

was there any change to dyn cam how it works? feels like low fps sometimes (edited)

switching back to static feels like normal (edited)

Dune 24-Dec-19 11:09 AM

No change

Trexus 24-Dec-19 11:24 AM

@heremerry christmass !!

2

4

ShootXen 24-Dec-19 11:49 AM

can't play with dyncam on 0.7 atleast with vanilla

Dune 24-Dec-19 11:52 AM

Adjust your settings

You can check for fps with cl_showfps but I doubt there is an issue there

Sonix 24-Dec-19 11:53 AM

works fine on my end

ShootXen 24-Dec-19 11:55 AM

above 1k all the time

Sneak 24-Dec-19 12:23 PM

Merry xmas

7

2

[Pakhomov] 24-Dec-19 01:49 PM

Help! inp_mousesens is the same(0.7.3 and 0.6.4), but the real sensitivity is different. what is the problem?

Sonix 24-Dec-19 01:55 PM

does the settings07.cfg reset anything if didnt exist before? @Dune

Dune 24-Dec-19 02:01 PM

It shouldn't

This is probably SDL2 related

Dune 24-Dec-19 02:19 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) the editor has a lot of strings

Terrorka (Tetra) 24-Dec-19 03:02 PM

@Dune Slowly translate, at least in part. (edited)

Fisico 24-Dec-19 04:03 PM

merry Christmas @everyone!

builder17 24-Dec-19 04:07 PM

pinging every1 is disabled, that's cool!

cool because this server has lots of people and I guess every1 isn't very cool unless it's announcement

hi

Deleted User 24-Dec-19 04:38 PM

just write a script that ping every person manually

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:27 PM

@Dune can you help me with something?

Dune 24-Dec-19 05:28 PM

What is it?

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:29 PM

i am trying to host a server

i have

sv_register 1

and port is udp open

but it wont show up on the server list

even tho i can connect to it thru ip

Dune 24-Dec-19 05:30 PM

Does it say server registered in the log?

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:30 PM

yes

no firewall problems detected

server registered

Dune 24-Dec-19 05:30 PM

Is it on your own machine?

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:30 PM

a vps

it works, because i can connect to it

tthe problem is it doesnt show up on the server list

its 0.6 btw

a ddrace

Dune 24-Dec-19 05:31 PM

Hmm

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:31 PM

any clue

?

Dune 24-Dec-19 05:31 PM

Open TCP?

But if it's registered it should be fine

Check status.tw

Maybe its up there

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:33 PM

@Dune every some minutes this warning appears and master server changes

Dune 24-Dec-19 05:34 PM

Can you try hosting a 0.7 server and see if it fixes it?

Different masterservers

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:34 PM

i will try

i opened a port for sv_external_port is that required? or useless? @Dune

jxsl13 24-Dec-19 05:38 PM

that is not required

Dune 24-Dec-19 05:38 PM

Yeah

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:38 PM

removed

still wont show up

and i couldnt find it on status.tw

i will try 0.7 now

Dune 24-Dec-19 05:41 PM

Servers that you host yourself are only visible in the LAN tab

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:41 PM

yea i know

but im using a vps

so

i connect thru my machine and host with vps

should show up on server list

jxsl13 24-Dec-19 05:48 PM

give your server a unique name to directly find it. Another problem might be that your server shuts down when you close your ssh session/terminal (edited)

Skayland 24-Dec-19 05:54 PM

i didnt close my terminal

and my server has an easy name

ok

0.7 works

so i dont know whats the problem with 0.6 listing

chile dm server ip 45.173.129.86:8316 version 0.7

Dune 24-Dec-19 06:13 PM

Sounds like a masterserver issue? :/

Skayland 24-Dec-19 06:18 PM

maybe :/

Deleted User 24-Dec-19 08:13 PM

Joined the server.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH CHILEAN SERVERS?

a gerdoe 24-Dec-19 08:48 PM

are we know that, dude?

Deleted User 24-Dec-19 09:01 PM

They explain to me what happened to Chile servers?

jxsl13 24-Dec-19 09:08 PM

chile servers are dead

rip chile :c

Skayland 24-Dec-19 11:52 PM

they are back @Deleted User

btw you should say "what happened to chile servers" on ddnet's discord

not here

also please stop botting jezzy

jxsl13 25-Dec-19 12:14 AM

botters killed chile servers

Souly 25-Dec-19 12:55 AM

@Deleted User stop ddos on chile servers

XD

Skayland 25-Dec-19 01:39 AM

Yes pls

C:

Happy christmas everyone

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 02:05 AM

u

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 02:45 AM

yea, the 0.6 masterservers are dead

you need to ask them to get added to the list

server 3 responds sometimes but you can't really register there, master 4 does only show some ddnet (and some whitelisted) servers if I remember correctly (edited)

idk what's about master 1 and 2

a gerdoe 25-Dec-19 05:47 AM

thats it

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 10:25 AM

wasnt previous update also christmas update XD?

ShootXen 25-Dec-19 10:58 AM

0.7.3.1? (edited)

0.7.2 release @Deleted User (edited)

Terrorka (Tetra) 25-Dec-19 05:37 PM

@Skayland @Dune @jxsl13 How to turn off the hat, it interferes. (edited)

Trafalgar Law 25-Dec-19 05:44 PM

cl_show_xmas_hats 0 (edited)

*

xd

Terrorka (Tetra) 25-Dec-19 05:46 PM

Thank you .

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 05:47 PM

lmao the hats are funny

Terrorka (Tetra) 25-Dec-19 05:47 PM

Excited sounds

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 05:48 PM

lmao what a huge troll

Souly 25-Dec-19 05:54 PM

whis huge troll

1

Skayland 25-Dec-19 05:56 PM

what

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 05:56 PM

The stroke from the Bear is a bit thinner

Skayland 25-Dec-19 05:56 PM

wait that is illegal

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 05:56 PM

ofc it is

Skayland 25-Dec-19 05:57 PM

oh noes

hurting my eyes

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 05:57 PM

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 06:45 PM

@ChillerDragon crack addict

Souly 25-Dec-19 06:49 PM

wtf is that

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 06:52 PM

chillerdragons crack server

Skayland 25-Dec-19 06:52 PM

it has easter eggs

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 06:52 PM

Skayland 25-Dec-19 06:58 PM

whis enslaving bots

Deleted User 25-Dec-19 06:58 PM

Skayland 25-Dec-19 07:00 PM

perfectly balanced

3

Hawajek 25-Dec-19 09:10 PM

Skayland 25-Dec-19 09:29 PM

OLD INFECTION 0.6 45.173.129.86:8342

:) if anyone miss the old infection, join

jxsl13 25-Dec-19 10:08 PM

those are dummie,s not bots Oo?

NudelBr0t 25-Dec-19 10:31 PM

Wtf

Dune 25-Dec-19 10:32 PM

dbg_dummies

ChillerDragon 26-Dec-19 12:09 AM

0.6 release is a sub for sub portal xxxxxD https://youtu.be/jsI8hv8IB_I

TeeworldsTeewars

Teeworlds 0.6.0 [New Version]

New Version of Teeworlds (v0.6.0) Short preview video of the new version of teeworlds. Download: http://www.teeworlds.com/ Music: Millions Like Us - The Forgotten

Souly 26-Dec-19 12:35 AM

i downloaded some gametype icons from here: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12712 and its all glitchy

[ICONS] Post your mods gametype icons here! (Page 1) — Graphics ...

[ICONS] Post your mods gametype icons here! (Page 1) — Graphics — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

why does that happen?

Dune 26-Dec-19 12:39 AM

pretty custom stuff you got

I think they are compressed in a not-nice format, let me reupload

try this in data/ui/gametypes

Attachment: gametypes.zip (139.17 KB)

(different png format)

Souly 26-Dec-19 12:42 AM

ok

also

i love to customize :3

Dune 26-Dec-19 12:42 AM

me too!

Souly 26-Dec-19 12:43 AM

btw

why does it need to look like that

Dune 26-Dec-19 12:43 AM

it doesn't, just the first is fine

Souly 26-Dec-19 12:43 AM

but why

Dune 26-Dec-19 12:43 AM

I was too lazy to crop

it used to be B&W (0.7.1)

Souly 26-Dec-19 12:45 AM

works great now

thank you ;)

Dune 26-Dec-19 12:45 AM

np ;)

Souly 26-Dec-19 12:45 AM

;)

Skayland 26-Dec-19 01:40 AM

@Souly can i get your background?

Souly 26-Dec-19 01:40 AM

yes

Skayland 26-Dec-19 01:40 AM

c:

Souly 26-Dec-19 01:40 AM

Skayland 26-Dec-19 01:41 AM

I guess you used it as a quad

On empty map

Right?

Souly 26-Dec-19 01:41 AM

if you want to use it in main menu then place this image in teeworlds>data>mapres

Attachment: heavens_day.map (613 B)

Attachment: heavens_night.map (613 B)

and then download those and replace with current

in teeworlds>data>ui>themes

Skayland 26-Dec-19 01:42 AM

Nice thanks

Dune 26-Dec-19 01:55 AM

@Souly you can use a different name, it will autodetect it as a new theme :)

Souly 26-Dec-19 01:55 AM

:o

really?

Dune 26-Dec-19 01:55 AM

yes

sky_day and sky_night for example

Souly 26-Dec-19 01:56 AM

im almost sure that it wasnt working in previous version

Dune 26-Dec-19 01:56 AM

we didn't change any code to add winter_day/night

just added the file

Souly 26-Dec-19 01:56 AM

but winter also has that small icon

Dune 26-Dec-19 01:57 AM

true, i'm almost certain, it's optional, but you can copy paste heavens.png if you want to be sure

Souly 26-Dec-19 01:57 AM

:ooooooooo

its working

woah

thanks again @Dune ;)

Dune 26-Dec-19 01:58 AM

Trafalgar Law 26-Dec-19 01:58 AM

Santee was again here

Dune 26-Dec-19 01:59 AM

you can also set the image as embedded (instead of external) in the map, so you don't need to ship it in mapres — it is inside the map

Souly 26-Dec-19 02:08 AM

woah

im actually dumb af

2

Deleted User 26-Dec-19 02:39 AM

true

Souly 26-Dec-19 02:41 AM

:c

sad reality

3

Wegez 26-Dec-19 02:51 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 26-Dec-19 02:52 PM

the devil in teeworlds is called sateen

Wegez 26-Dec-19 02:53 PM

does anyone have ideas why I cant seem to get my port forwarding to work? things i've already checked: I have correct local ip (192.168.1.188); my port at server config is set to 8303; windows firewall is open

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:07 PM

@Wegez console is stuck there?

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:08 PM

actually; i got my server to work for a while (according to console)

now it says

but still I cannot connect to it with other ips than localhost or 192.168.1.188

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:09 PM

Homehost?

Try giving the ip to a friend

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:09 PM

I dont have anyone available, could you try it?

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:10 PM

Im at bed, sorry

Maybe in one or 2 hours

Dune 26-Dec-19 03:10 PM

It looks like it is working fine

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:10 PM

Ye

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:10 PM

Dune could you try to connect to it

Dune 26-Dec-19 03:10 PM

No, but I don't see any reason why others couldn't

Trafalgar Law 26-Dec-19 03:11 PM

192.168.1.188:8303?

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:11 PM

No, thats local

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:11 PM

hmh and now, the console still shows that exact same text -> but I cannot even connect with localhost

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:11 PM

Send ip

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:11 PM

the external ip should be 37.33.4.132:8303

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:12 PM

K

Wait 5 minutes i will try

Trafalgar Law 26-Dec-19 03:12 PM

Can't connect

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:12 PM

0.6 or 0.7?

Dune 26-Dec-19 03:13 PM

@Wegez wdym you can't connect with localhost?

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:13 PM

Dont know, it just wont connect - but I think i know what the issue is

let me check something

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:13 PM

What version is it? 0.6 or 0.7? @Wegez

Dune 26-Dec-19 03:14 PM

How do you try to connect?

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:14 PM

it was 0.6.4 -> but it was also ddnet server, im gonna try with vanilla now :d, I completely forgot to mention that it was ddnet

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:14 PM

Shouldnt be a problem i think

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:16 PM

now it should be up in vanilla 0.7.4

Skayland 26-Dec-19 03:16 PM

Works

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:17 PM

Yeah... I wonder why it didnt work with ddnet

ChillerDragon 26-Dec-19 03:56 PM

there is also ddnet for 0.7 btw @Wegez

Wegez 26-Dec-19 03:57 PM

Currently trying to work things out with it (zilly) but I cant seem to get dunes map_update.exe to work properly

redix 26-Dec-19 04:03 PM

map_update does not support ddnet yet

Dune 26-Dec-19 04:47 PM

The map_update tool is not mine, it's redix's

Wegez 26-Dec-19 04:49 PM

Ah, sorry for my misunderstanding -> but nevertheless it didnt work and I still cant figure out why hosting ddnet server is not working but normal teeworlds works just fine

(edited)

Dune 26-Dec-19 04:54 PM

ddnet is 0.6, that's probably the issue

Wegez 26-Dec-19 05:04 PM

is there a way to setup vanilla teeworlds server with autoexec_server as there is with ddnet? (edited)

Dune 26-Dec-19 05:05 PM

explain what you want to do?

Wegez 26-Dec-19 05:05 PM

Setting up server ports, name, motds, rcon passwords etc (edited)

Deleted User 26-Dec-19 07:18 PM

the troll in teeworlds is called @Deleted User

u

2

1

Souly 26-Dec-19 07:35 PM

3

Attachment: river_day.map (16.82 MB)

Attachment: river_night.map (14.09 MB)

put it in teeworlds>data>ui>themes

it takes some time to load but looks good

a gerdoe 26-Dec-19 09:45 PM

hm

illustrator suprises me

slinacK 26-Dec-19 10:17 PM

got a winter map that is a bit broken on 0.7 is this map_update thing for that?

Deleted User 26-Dec-19 10:23 PM

Illustrator sux, use Inkscape

i will escape your ink

Tonixe 26-Dec-19 10:25 PM

@Dune the dowload link for 0.7.4 on the homepage of tw.com is for the 32bit version, I guess it should prabably be changed to the 64bit, I had to tell it to some people already and it fixed their fps lags etc ^^

Dune 26-Dec-19 10:26 PM

@Tonixe OS?

Tonixe 26-Dec-19 10:26 PM

Windows

Dune 26-Dec-19 10:27 PM

64 bit will be better for 64 bit users but won't work for 32 bit users so... well

Tonixe 26-Dec-19 10:27 PM

I know right

Dune 26-Dec-19 10:27 PM

don't think you can detect that easily

Tonixe 26-Dec-19 10:29 PM

idk, I would just add '32 bit' then for the link

So that people know they are downloading the 32bit version

Dune 26-Dec-19 10:32 PM

I'm surprised it fixes lag though

does that sound credible to you @heinrich5991 ?

Tonixe 26-Dec-19 10:33 PM

It helped @.LeitWolf‘

heinrich5991 26-Dec-19 11:19 PM

I cannot imagine how that works

hmmmm

Dune 26-Dec-19 11:23 PM

neither can I

busta. 26-Dec-19 11:25 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 26-Dec-19 11:38 PM

@Destin troll

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 02:35 AM

everybody join 149.202.127.134:7303, big party xd

Deleted User 27-Dec-19 03:38 AM

ban

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 05:21 AM

@fokkonaut what kind of server are you running? seems like a lot of idiots are on it to be fair (edited)

trying to threatening me because of the flag, that you will ban me if I dont give it to someone (edited)

Rimso 27-Dec-19 08:21 AM

Hi ^^ Is there a way to change the skin shape only on client side?

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 09:09 AM

If you can code, there is probably a way

a gerdoe 27-Dec-19 10:39 AM

russian translation have one wrong sentence

a gerdoe 27-Dec-19 10:53 AM

gotcha

Wegez 27-Dec-19 11:05 AM

With the 32 vs 64bit the main difference I imagine is that 32bit cant take use of more than 4gb of RAM, which shouldnt be an issue since teeworlds isnt using much ram at all - but i imagine it could have a difference if the computer it is played on only has one 8gb stick, or just from the fact that it cant support as much as 64bit can? (so for 8 gb machine half of the ram is doing nothing) Just my guessings though (edited)

I suppose there isnt really any way to accurately benchmark in teeworlds? As I get +700fps almost everywhere I suppose I wouldnt see huge difference even in 32bit version if I were to try it out (edited)

I did some testing and couldnt see a difference, got 1200-1500fps on both 32 and 64bit on same empty server

a gerdoe 27-Dec-19 11:27 AM

update russian translation branch

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 12:36 PM

@ShootXen yea, they are stupid xd the flag gives you extra xp so thats why people want it, but the server has no rules, i wont ban anyone

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 12:42 PM

did he sended you a screenshot? @fokkonaut

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 12:43 PM

who? xd

i didnt receive any

ChillerDragon 27-Dec-19 12:50 PM

I guess the only one who is able to ban there is fokkonobo so ignore Threads

Dune 27-Dec-19 01:21 PM

@Rimso shape? Well yes you can make a skin. Edit body parts

You can have an invisibilitee

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 01:48 PM

name beginns with a c and he told me that you gave him the red flag @fokkonaut

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 01:49 PM

uhm xd

everybody can pick up the flag

its at its spawn usually

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 01:49 PM

yea, I just holded the flag for 1hr after they started to bullshit me^^ (edited)

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 01:50 PM

just dont give a fuck about them xd

are you online rn?

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 01:50 PM

do you give mod rights?

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 01:50 PM

No

to no one

I will come online in a few minutes, gonna have a breakfast first

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 01:51 PM

I'm online already

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 01:51 PM

Nice ;)

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 02:07 PM

@ShootXen im there

Wegez 27-Dec-19 02:23 PM

Why do I have so slow download speed for certain servers - or do those servers just have very tiny capacity reserved for map downloaders?

I mean, I feel like 2 mb map shouldnt take three minutes to download

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 02:25 PM

where are you from?

@Wegez

Wegez 27-Dec-19 02:25 PM

Finland

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 02:25 PM

0.7 or 0.6?

Wegez 27-Dec-19 02:25 PM

im trying to join to fokkonaut's server and I get download speed of 10KiB/s

0.7

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 02:26 PM

0.7 doesnt have the ddnet fast download, i guess thats it

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:28 PM

iirc you can adjust download speed in the server settings

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 02:28 PM

yea

sv_map_download_speed

it doesnt make a difference whether on 2 or 16 tho

oh

it gets set on server launch

is there any bad side when setting this to 16?

@Dune

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:37 PM

src/engine/shared/config_variables.h:85:MACRO_CONFIG_INT(SvMapDownloadSpeed, sv_map_download_speed, 2, 1, 16, CFGFLAG_SAVE|CFGFLAG_SERVER, "Number of map data packages a client gets on each request")

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 02:37 PM

yea

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:37 PM

if your server sucks I guess you can have a bunch of packet losses

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 02:37 PM

ok

Wegez 27-Dec-19 02:38 PM

Is there a way to zoom out in vanilla?

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:38 PM

no @Wegez, that'd be a cheat

Wegez 27-Dec-19 02:38 PM

Ah, I just got used to it with ddnet

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:39 PM

Yeah, I dislike ddnet for doing that

I think it's unfair in race as well, but doesn't matter as much for PvE

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 02:40 PM

well it should never be implemented in vanilla

Dune is your Client Up2Date?

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:41 PM

not quite yet up to date with 0.7.4

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 02:42 PM

Is there copy/paste in vanilla?

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:42 PM

there is paste

copy requires selection

(and we don't have selection mechanics for textinput)

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 02:43 PM

well I'm using a client with such a function

redix 27-Dec-19 02:43 PM

The config variable for download speed works, but for clients with high packet loss and high latency it might make the situation even worse and can lead to disconnects because the resend buffer is full

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 02:43 PM

can even copy more than 1 line

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:43 PM

Of course, but can you select what you copy?

redix 27-Dec-19 02:44 PM

In general: high latency makes map downloads very slow in tw

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:44 PM

yeah I remember with bad internet some servers would load a bunch then stop then load a bunch etc.

they probably had that setting up

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 02:44 PM

@Dune

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 02:44 PM

@redix is it ok to set it to 8?

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 02:45 PM

blue is the marked/copy

redix 27-Dec-19 02:45 PM

I think so

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:45 PM

oh, like that. interesting

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 02:45 PM

oki (edited)

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:45 PM

@ShootXen do you have a use case for that?

ShootXen 27-Dec-19 02:45 PM

yea

redix 27-Dec-19 02:45 PM

Problem is that tw needs to resend all packets when one is lost

That's why the map download kinda stops for a moment

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 02:47 PM

But 8 shouldnt be too high

i think

and the map on my server is pretty big, so it would take > 30 sec with map download speed on 2

now its probably around 10 sec

will check after restart, as the value cant be changed ingame

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:49 PM

do you think 2 is a sane default, @redix ?

Wegez 27-Dec-19 02:52 PM

it took me over two minutes with the setting there was when I joined

redix 27-Dec-19 02:54 PM

In most cases the resend buffer should even be able to handle 16. I think using 4 as default might be better. 2 is still very slow. You can even force a higher download speed from client side. I always used 16 or even 32 and never had issues (but my connection is very stable).

Wegez 27-Dec-19 02:54 PM

how can I force higher dl speed from client

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:55 PM

You can't afaik

YourEzio 27-Dec-19 02:55 PM

Joined the server.

Wegez 27-Dec-19 02:55 PM

redix:You can even force a higher download speed from client side.

is that with a special client too, then, or how could it even be possible ?

Dune 27-Dec-19 02:56 PM

I stand corrected

Wegez 27-Dec-19 02:56 PM

I mean, I have my own doubts too but I wanted to know what redix has to say about it?

Wegez 27-Dec-19 03:05 PM

So is there a way to copy text from console somehow?

heinrich5991 27-Dec-19 03:06 PM

just send more "request map data" packets? ^^

it doesn't sound like rocket science

Wegez 27-Dec-19 03:09 PM

:D

Dune 27-Dec-19 03:10 PM

I would have thought that is the initiative of the server

@Wegez

So is there a way to copy text from console somehow?

Well, you can start teeworlds with an external console and copy it from there, but there is no ingame selection so no copying mechanics

Wegez 27-Dec-19 03:12 PM

aight

also dummies were only ddnet stuff, right?

Dune 27-Dec-19 03:17 PM

dbg_dummies is a vanilla command

it creates dummies that do nothing but move left

Wegez 27-Dec-19 03:18 PM

for host only>?

Dune 27-Dec-19 03:18 PM

it's a server command

a gerdoe 27-Dec-19 03:23 PM

>connecting to chillerdragon's ctf server with zillywoods client >crash

Wegez 27-Dec-19 03:24 PM

I had zilly crashing when I loaded one server for the first time but it started working on second (edited)

a gerdoe 27-Dec-19 03:26 PM

non-stable client

a gerdoe 27-Dec-19 03:38 PM

/that is standart 0.7.4 editor/

redix 27-Dec-19 03:42 PM

Like heinrich said... Just request new map data before everything arrived. It's just a few lines

Wegez 27-Dec-19 03:53 PM

Dune is it in future possible to get friend list to say the name of the person youre trying to remove from friends instead of just "that player" like are you sure you want to remove Wegez from your friends list (edited)

Dune 27-Dec-19 03:54 PM

sounds like a good idea, propose it

Skayland 27-Dec-19 05:01 PM

The dbg_dummies thing is like just an example code i guess, right? @Dune

Or does it have any other uses?

Dune 27-Dec-19 05:03 PM

It has debugging uses, I use it a bunch

It's not supposed to be useful for regular users

heinrich5991 27-Dec-19 05:44 PM

I believe the right interface for this ("are you sure you want to remove Wegez from your friends list") by an undo feature

Dune 27-Dec-19 05:49 PM

that's a different order of magnitude of complexity to implement

El BobLex 27-Dec-19 06:36 PM

forum spam in Support and Community News (edited)

heinrich5991 27-Dec-19 06:40 PM

someone started cleaning up while I was at it

2

it's dealt with now

El BobLex 27-Dec-19 06:41 PM

Wegez 27-Dec-19 08:19 PM

@fokkonaut I cant seem to join your server? Any ideas why?

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 08:19 PM

not really, what does it say?

Wegez 27-Dec-19 08:20 PM

just "Unable to connect to the server"

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 08:20 PM

no idea :/

its your internet?

Wegez 27-Dec-19 08:21 PM

Everything else seems to be working fine - > let me try to join some other server

fokkonaut 27-Dec-19 08:21 PM

ok

Wegez 27-Dec-19 08:22 PM

Alright, no idea what the issue was but restart worked

Wegez 27-Dec-19 08:31 PM

Is there a workaround for being able to play two games using direct x at the same time? I cant seem to play league of legends and teeworlds at the same time, league will crash on startup

Dune 27-Dec-19 08:34 PM

even if you`re not in in fullscreen? (edited)

Wegez 27-Dec-19 08:34 PM

im fullscreen teeworlds, windowed league

would setting borderless to tee work? (edited)

Dune 27-Dec-19 08:35 PM

maybe

Skayland 27-Dec-19 11:59 PM

Compiling without getting any errors feels so good :(

Dune 28-Dec-19 12:07 AM

segfault says hi

5

3

Trafalgar Law 28-Dec-19 12:08 AM

the fuck?

jxsl13 28-Dec-19 12:16 AM

dune is basically evil.

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 02:01 AM

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 03:26 AM

what does the (green) hook stand for?

Trafalgar Law 28-Dec-19 03:26 AM

Ready

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 03:27 AM

lol i just noticed him now

ChillerDragon 28-Dec-19 03:53 AM

its not on every server and only during warmup or something like that. Nobody actually knows how warmups work in 0.7 xd

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 03:57 AM

xd

ShootXen 28-Dec-19 04:09 AM

you just warm up

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 04:17 AM

Ryozuki 28-Dec-19 11:51 AM

its to say ur ready

there is a warmup mode that doesnt end until all are ready

useful for tourns i guess

there is a keybind to say ur rdy

i think

Dune 28-Dec-19 11:57 AM

Yeah, you can use that to instantpause during the game

LordSk 28-Dec-19 05:50 PM

@Dune when will the gamer client be updated?

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ShootXen 28-Dec-19 05:52 PM

next year I guess

Ryozuki 28-Dec-19 06:02 PM

next decade

ShootXen 28-Dec-19 06:03 PM

2021

okey

there was no year 0 but 1

so 2021 is the next decade

Dune 28-Dec-19 06:13 PM

just realized mods can use colorable tee eyes to send info :)

teesmash anyone?

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 06:20 PM

what is teesmash

Ryozuki 28-Dec-19 06:20 PM

a mod i made

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 06:21 PM

what do you do in it

Ryozuki 28-Dec-19 06:21 PM

the more you hammer someone mor eknockback he gets

super simple version of super smash bro

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 06:21 PM

smash tees ultimate lol

soundsfun

Ryozuki 28-Dec-19 06:21 PM

ye but no one knows it

aziz boom 28-Dec-19 06:43 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 28-Dec-19 06:46 PM

it's quite fun

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 07:38 PM

thats fun

Dune 28-Dec-19 07:41 PM

@Ryozuki server down?

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 07:42 PM

yea we got a timeout :/

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 08:01 PM

RT (rage timeout)

i should change my nick here too

Ryozuki 28-Dec-19 08:05 PM

unique server?

idk :/

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 08:07 PM

there should be more flat maps

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Deleted User 28-Dec-19 08:57 PM

@Deleted User they should me more smash players

tru

and less trolls

Skayland 28-Dec-19 09:46 PM

@Ryozuki smash tee is yours?

Tee smash

Is there a 0.6 version?

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 09:55 PM

https://teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11878

[MOD] Tee Smash (For 0.6+) (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworld...

[MOD] Tee Smash (For 0.6+) (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

@Skayland

Skayland 28-Dec-19 10:44 PM

Thanks

AkaFad 28-Dec-19 11:18 PM

Thats sad, vanilla teeworlds 0.6 is ded :/

Dune 28-Dec-19 11:24 PM

why would you play vanilla 0.6

Deleted User 28-Dec-19 11:48 PM

0.7 is the future

Assa 29-Dec-19 12:14 AM

Spongebob Future Meme here

Trafalgar Law 29-Dec-19 12:15 AM

https://giphy.com/gifs/funny-future-gif-VUl5XtSlEVPl6

Wow laggy shit gif

identify with 29-Dec-19 01:06 AM

Joined the server.

Skayland 29-Dec-19 05:58 AM

??

3

4

Deleted User 29-Dec-19 01:42 PM

gif from the future

ShootXen 29-Dec-19 02:16 PM

btw is there someone who understands java? have small problem with setting up a modded server

Debian10

Dune 29-Dec-19 02:19 PM

java for a mod?

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 03:01 PM

A teeworlds server?

AkaFad 29-Dec-19 05:38 PM

I prefer the 0.6 version. The physics are better and There is a bigger communtiy. And the 0.7 isnt made for ddrace but still better for skin customisation. But thats just m'y opinion.

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 05:55 PM

what physics changed in 0.7 @AkaFad ?

AkaFad 29-Dec-19 05:58 PM

Idk, i just feel it different.

@ChillerDragon

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:09 PM

Nothing changed

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:09 PM

@AkaFad what exactly?

AkaFad 29-Dec-19 06:15 PM

I just think that Hook arent the same (controls) and collision beetween tees changed @ChillerDragon

Sonix 29-Dec-19 06:16 PM

probably ddnet/ddrace physics he meant

Deleted User 29-Dec-19 06:16 PM

teeworlds crashes when i switch windows apparently

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:17 PM

@Sonix i don't think they changed anything like that in ddnet?

Sonix 29-Dec-19 06:18 PM

well im no expert but you do notice the difference switching from vanilla 0.6 client to ddnet client

when playing ddrace

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:19 PM

probably the prediction

Sonix 29-Dec-19 06:19 PM

yeah

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:19 PM

the """antiping""" :p

redix 29-Dec-19 06:20 PM

Ddnet basically has prediction for everything

Terrorka (Tetra) 29-Dec-19 06:20 PM

@Dune , who can I tell about ideas to?

Trafalgar Law 29-Dec-19 06:20 PM

You can create a issues on the Github or just here

redix 29-Dec-19 06:21 PM

Well... Prediction for rocket jumps is very useful indeed

nuborn 29-Dec-19 06:22 PM

can someone give two-way?

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:22 PM

yes

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:22 PM

the only physics change i know ddnet/ddrace has is the 0.5 wallhammer and nades exploding twice when lifetime ends and they collide at the same time

Terrorka (Tetra) 29-Dec-19 06:22 PM

@ChillerDragon Hi!

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:22 PM

hi

@Sonix a different feel is not different physics. DDNet has prediction for ddrace tiles like hookthrough stoppers jetpack freeze and so on. Also the mousesense is a bit different.

Terrorka (Tetra) 29-Dec-19 06:24 PM

@Dune, we should definitely add "Press F to pay respect" emotion. (edited)

redix 29-Dec-19 06:24 PM

Mousesense just depends on raw input or not

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:24 PM

no

redix 29-Dec-19 06:24 PM

What's the difference then? For me it feels the same

Sonix 29-Dec-19 06:24 PM

some newer players perhaps cant tell the difference and address the things as physics

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:24 PM

no matter which value inp_grab or inp_mouseold has the mousesense is different

i wish i knew @redix

but i cant aim shit in 0.7

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Sonix 29-Dec-19 06:26 PM

thats mousesens antiping

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:26 PM

@redix inp_grab isn't default anymore I think

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:26 PM

its not inp_grab

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:26 PM

it disables accel on windows

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:26 PM

i tried all settings combinations

could not reproduce the same mousesense

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:26 PM

raw mouse input should be that

redix 29-Dec-19 06:26 PM

Well I never use accel with mouse... No difference for me

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:27 PM

even deactivated mouse accel in windows or used the ddnet raw mouse code

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:27 PM

I'm very used to accel unfortunately (edited)

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:27 PM

nothign worked

wel i am playing for 6 years on a daily basis with 1k mousesense and 1800dpi so maybe i am a bit more picky

Sonix 29-Dec-19 06:28 PM

that way u'll never have accurate moves dune

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:28 PM

I know

redix 29-Dec-19 06:28 PM

How can you play with such a high sens

I have 50 and 1800 dpi

Sonix 29-Dec-19 06:29 PM

im on 2400 dpi

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:29 PM

yea guess the sense diff scales with the amount

thats what i assume since all lower sense users seem to be fine

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:29 PM

explains why you are better with touchpad

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:29 PM

xd

my first year tw was without mouse

Trafalgar Law 29-Dec-19 06:30 PM

??????????

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:30 PM

when i bougth a mouse i never used it because i was much better with touchpad

Trafalgar Law 29-Dec-19 06:30 PM

ChillerDragon 29-Dec-19 06:31 PM

i had to force my self. and the only reason i did that was because i wanted to shot and hook at the same time xd

but today i found out that binding +fire on w works fine as well and using touchpad to hook (edited)

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:47 PM

@Ryozuki when does the teesmash server come back?

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 06:47 PM

is sv down?

Dune 29-Dec-19 06:51 PM

yes it crashed I believe

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 07:09 PM

@Dune i dont have access rn to sv and timakro seems to be afk :/

ill try to host one now

Dune 29-Dec-19 07:10 PM

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 07:11 PM

ill also try to port it asap to 0.7

ShootXen 29-Dec-19 07:16 PM

someone changed the color of the forum a bit?

Dune 29-Dec-19 07:17 PM

@Ryozuki I meant the 0.7 server

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 07:17 PM

is there a 0.7 sv?

its not by me then

Dune 29-Dec-19 07:23 PM

yeah there were two servers but now only the chinese one :(

Trafalgar Law 29-Dec-19 08:19 PM

@Dune that was Blackpast

From Jason54

Dune 29-Dec-19 08:22 PM

Oh :)

Trafalgar Law 29-Dec-19 08:22 PM

I would host that too

Where can I find this nice mod

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 08:26 PM

im porting it

Trafalgar Law 29-Dec-19 08:29 PM

https://i.imgur.com/a3X0auB.jpg I'm a little bit jealous :/

So many gifts

ShootXen 29-Dec-19 08:31 PM

are those zombies=

Deleted User 29-Dec-19 08:41 PM

is there no teesmash server?

Skayland 29-Dec-19 08:53 PM

My clan will open one, but 0.6 @Deleted User

Also chile host, so you will probably lag if you are not from south america

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 08:53 PM

on 0.6 you got unique clan servers

https://uniqueclan.net/serverstatus/GER

Deleted User 29-Dec-19 08:56 PM

i found 1 in 0.7 but it unplayable for me

Skayland 29-Dec-19 08:59 PM

Unique is dead?

Never see any players around

Dune 29-Dec-19 09:06 PM

@Deleted User there was one but it went down

Deleted User 29-Dec-19 09:06 PM

i was playing on that one yesterday

Dune 29-Dec-19 09:06 PM

Too bad I see it published nowhere

Yes, I was there too

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 09:18 PM

some patience

and i will finish today..

Deleted User 29-Dec-19 09:24 PM

finish what?

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 09:27 PM

@Dune is there an example of how the color works?

i mean what format it is

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 09:39 PM

i see

Trafalgar Law 29-Dec-19 09:45 PM

Heyyyyy LickOUT

ReiTW 29-Dec-19 09:57 PM

not the real one

also @Deleted User is a fake

gj @Deleted User to fake people

you're a little kid

if you think that will touch us

:))

EddY 29-Dec-19 09:58 PM

@ReiTW why even paying attention to them

Let the kids be kids

ReiTW 29-Dec-19 09:58 PM

well fun fact to see that even everyone knows they're fake

they're dumb

Joposhnik 29-Dec-19 11:07 PM

Joined the server.

Ryozuki 29-Dec-19 11:22 PM

@Dune i opened a sv, it might have bugs tho, i tried coloring the eye but i think it doesnt support a wide range of colors so for now its just the body color

Pɦoenix 29-Dec-19 11:42 PM

Joined the server.

Skayland 30-Dec-19 04:19 AM

another fake?

who is the dumb dude doing all those fakes?

ShootXen 30-Dec-19 10:16 AM

@jxsl13

Dolphin 30-Dec-19 10:30 AM

Seems nice to see this server alive again tbh

Ryozuki 30-Dec-19 12:11 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=118287#p118287

Dune 30-Dec-19 01:09 PM

Oh :) how was timakro involved?

Ryozuki 30-Dec-19 01:11 PM

he helped me 4 years ago get introduced into tw code

and helped me with the mod

Dune 30-Dec-19 02:40 PM

@Souly didn't see there was a day version as well. very pretty

Assa 30-Dec-19 03:16 PM

link to that background pls

it's not here https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/tree/gamer/datasrc/ui/themes

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/tree/master/src/mastersrv

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Dune-jr/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Dune 30-Dec-19 03:30 PM

It's @Souly 's but the map could use some compression before inclusion :)

And I didn't push my branches in a while

Assa 30-Dec-19 03:38 PM

finished run_guy_25 in 6 minutes and just got called a hacker like wtf? that's not even a good time

jxsl13 30-Dec-19 03:57 PM

fixed @ShootXen

ShootXen 30-Dec-19 04:02 PM

Dune 30-Dec-19 07:21 PM

@Ryozuki that hammer sound with the ninja is quite underwhelming :D

Ryozuki 30-Dec-19 07:47 PM

oh

i can fix that xd

n000b 30-Dec-19 08:34 PM

@Ryozuki best mod

Deleted User 30-Dec-19 08:35 PM

ye

Dune 30-Dec-19 09:39 PM

need a gametype icon now :)

Deleted User 30-Dec-19 09:56 PM

help? i cant browse anything

Dune 30-Dec-19 10:07 PM

@Deleted User that is? no servers?

Deleted User 30-Dec-19 10:07 PM

yes

Dune 30-Dec-19 10:08 PM

do you see favorites?

Deleted User 30-Dec-19 10:09 PM

no

i have no favourite

Dune 30-Dec-19 10:10 PM

add_favorite 149.202.127.134:8704

Benevolent 31-Dec-19 02:52 AM

Joined the server.

xanxus1908 31-Dec-19 07:56 AM

Joined the server.

Henry Stickmin 31-Dec-19 12:26 PM

Joined the server.

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Zatline 31-Dec-19 07:29 PM

@Dune damn if that bg was actually in teestyle it be insane

Dune 31-Dec-19 07:30 PM

Just do it :D

Zatline 31-Dec-19 07:30 PM

I feel obligated now

poko 01-Jan-20 12:23 AM

Happy New Year

Sonix 01-Jan-20 12:41 AM

Happy new year!

Skayland 01-Jan-20 02:00 AM

Master servers down or something? I see all servers down on 0.7 and no servers on 0.6

Forget it, my side problem

HAG 01-Jan-20 02:04 AM

Joined the server.

zokker13 01-Jan-20 01:39 PM

Joined the server.

good day fellow people and happy new year

I wonder here if somebody encountered some challenges with docker networking and connectivity to the teeworlds master servers? It's possible to have my server open in the wild and connect to it but the registration to the masterserver somehow fails, claiming I need to open ports/configure my firewall for UDP and port 8000. It's the same port I used to connect to the server so I'm a bit puzzled.

Dune 01-Jan-20 03:16 PM

@zokker13 hello fellow tee. So you use a custom port for your server

LordSk 01-Jan-20 03:16 PM

Happy new year people!

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zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:25 PM

@Dune yessir. I changed it to external: 8000 and internal 6000. Using the sv_port 6000 and sv_external_port 8000 didn't help. I have everything setup in a docker swarm infrastructure and my network is overlay. That might causes some issues because it's doing some NATting behind the scenes..

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:33 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_settings that's all the engine settings we got

I never tried to set up a different external and internal port myself, can't help you much

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:38 PM

I also had it on the sdame port

both 8000

but that didnt help either

it's a bit weird

is the master server open source?

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:39 PM

Yes

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:39 PM

okay I'll have a look there

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:39 PM

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:39 PM

but could also be that UDP and docker is weird together with overlay networks

ty

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:40 PM

if you can connect on it on :8000 from another network then the port should be open :/

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:41 PM

I can't really understand the issue

I casn connect to the server

it's just the masterserver and public listing causing issues

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:41 PM

but it is not listed in the masterservers

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:41 PM

might be a bug there

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:42 PM

There's always the off chance the masterservers blacklisted you, but that shouldn't be your case

@heinrich5991 is more knowledgeable, maybe he's around

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:43 PM

mh..

why would it blacklist me?

I got a static IP

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:43 PM

being in the IP range of ddosers I imagine, but that is unlikely

TCP & UDP open?

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:44 PM

only udp (edited)

I need both? (edited)

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 04:45 PM

only udp is fine

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:45 PM

no

perhaps I need tcp for the masterserver

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 04:45 PM

no

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:46 PM

mh..

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 04:46 PM

so you can continue to your server on port 8000?

what does the server tell you about the masters?

are we talking about a 0.6 or a 0.7 server?

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:47 PM

0.6

The log ist spammed with "the master server reports that clients can no connect to it" <-- a lie

and: "configure yout firwall/nat to let through udp on port 6000" <-- should be 8000, I guess it's takling the wrong config element

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 04:50 PM

what is your config sv_port, sv_external_port?

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:51 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/27c6f8ae4600308248cdbc8a5edcc16ae142950e/src/engine/server/register.cpp#L277

it uses sv_port

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:51 PM

nice catch

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 04:51 PM

what port is your server listening on, what port mapping do you do between docker and the internet

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:51 PM

8000 is external (so sv_external_port) and 6000 internal (sv_port)

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 04:52 PM

is it running right now? what is its IP address?

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:53 PM

yes, 37.221.199.214

a28b 01-Jan-20 04:55 PM

how are you starting docker? ... -p 6000:8000/udp ... ?

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:55 PM

I'm using docker swarm for it

since it's my entire infrstaructure

but the port is forwarded if that's what you are asking

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 04:56 PM

does the registration work without docker?

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:56 PM

I didnt try that

a28b 01-Jan-20 04:56 PM

have you tried to remove the sv_external_port line? i never had problems with that (even with dslite)

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:57 PM

yup, I also tried using the same internal and external port without that option

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 04:58 PM

I can connect.

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:58 PM

yes yes

connection is fine

a28b 01-Jan-20 04:59 PM

is sv_register 1?

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:59 PM

bhut I want other people to connect

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:59 PM

it should be by default

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:59 PM

yep @a28b

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 04:59 PM

the last thing that's missing is whether it works without docker

it might simply be the fault of the masters

they're under constant attack AFAIK

zokker13 01-Jan-20 04:59 PM

argh

Dune 01-Jan-20 04:59 PM

maybe try with a 0.7 server

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:00 PM

mh..

Dune 01-Jan-20 05:00 PM

just to test

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:00 PM

I can try that

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 05:00 PM

or try without docker

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:01 PM

yes, sec

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:09 PM

okay getting the same message when running on the host itself

but I cant connect this time

Assa 01-Jan-20 05:11 PM

@zokker13 maybe you have malware on your pc? Using some untrustworthy teeworlds clients? Or worse?

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 05:13 PM

unlikely

wait

you can't connect. huh?

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:15 PM

probably some iptables issue

Assa 01-Jan-20 05:15 PM

@heinrich5991 yes unlikely, i didn't finish reading

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:17 PM

so now im connected

lets see what the master server says..

registered

mh... it says it's registered but cant find it yet

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 05:19 PM

did it select the same master?

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:20 PM

it constantly changes

actuaslly says the master server is not responding

thats weird

Assa 01-Jan-20 05:21 PM

if it says it's registered it isn't a server issue anymore

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:21 PM

I dont think the "registered" message is trustworthy if the servers are changed all the time and telling me its not responding

Assa 01-Jan-20 05:22 PM

they are sending heartbeats

heinrich5991 01-Jan-20 05:22 PM

if it's "registered" then at that point it's not the fault of the server anymore

but the master server's

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:22 PM

Assa 01-Jan-20 05:23 PM

ip and tw version?

Dune 01-Jan-20 05:23 PM

they were mentioned

zokker13 01-Jan-20 05:24 PM

37.221.199.214 and 0.6 for server

Assa 01-Jan-20 05:24 PM

thx

Iman 01-Jan-20 05:42 PM

happy new year

Skayland 01-Jan-20 06:10 PM

Yea thats the 0.6 issue everyone has, @zokker13 masterservers are bugged and getting ddos so the servers wont show up (edited)

zokker13 01-Jan-20 06:11 PM

ohh damn

Skayland 01-Jan-20 06:12 PM

It may or may not fix itself in some days or weeks, but you are better off opening a 0.7 server instead, 0.7 servers will show up @zokker13 (edited)

zokker13 01-Jan-20 06:19 PM

I see

thanks mate

Skayland 01-Jan-20 08:35 PM

Oh

Looks like 0.6 server list is working again :D 390+ servers and 481 players

TeriyakiChicken 01-Jan-20 08:43 PM

Joined the server.

Fudgy 01-Jan-20 08:58 PM

Damn thats around 700 players online now if you combine 0.7

most I saw in a while lol

Iman 01-Jan-20 09:23 PM

nice !

Dune 01-Jan-20 09:38 PM

Well it's holidays :)

Gamer. 02-Jan-20 12:05 AM

Joined the server.

Hey

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fireball 02-Jan-20 12:28 AM

Joined the server.

ShootXen 02-Jan-20 08:15 AM

I guess ppl are starting on 0.7 to do the same as on 0.6. You cant join on fokkos server anymore "out of buffer" and a lot of tees are connected

ChillerDragon 02-Jan-20 09:23 AM

Wdym @ShootXen? Btw @fokkonaut did you know that?

Dune 02-Jan-20 11:59 AM

The IP spoofing exploit should be fixed since 0.6.5

fokkonaut 02-Jan-20 01:53 PM

These are my serverside dummies, I did some nuclear tests and yeah fucked it up xd I fixed the out of buffer thing

Ta un ptit probleme mec 03-Jan-20 10:56 PM

slt can someone give me a nice and cool game.png

Trafalgar Law 03-Jan-20 10:57 PM

Dune 03-Jan-20 11:15 PM

@Ta un ptit probleme mec gamer client had a menu for that, there is also a database of game.pngs somewhere

Ta un ptit probleme mec 03-Jan-20 11:29 PM

ok

a gerdoe 04-Jan-20 12:06 AM

zIlLyWoOdS bEtTeR

Dune 04-Jan-20 12:22 AM

@Ta un ptit probleme mec found the db: https://github.com/ChillerDragon/TeeworldsDB/tree/master/gameskins. It's @ChillerDragon's :)

Ta un ptit probleme mec 04-Jan-20 12:25 AM

tks @Dune

fokkonaut 04-Jan-20 12:27 AM

i added more stuff than he did i guess xd

Dune 04-Jan-20 12:35 AM

oh, didn't look at the log :)

it's already difficult to credit artists

fokkonaut 04-Jan-20 12:35 AM

yes

Skayland 04-Jan-20 01:51 AM

Anyone remembers a mod called "oPanic"?

I only remember xpanic, mpanic, and zesc, but a friend is telling me there was an opanic and its the "oldest one"

a gerdoe 04-Jan-20 02:20 AM

look up foum threads

i didnt hear about it

noby 04-Jan-20 02:32 AM

why does tw 0.7 make my computer fans spin even with the fps limit

like spinning as fast as it can

but 0.6 doesnt make it spin at all

Dune 04-Jan-20 02:33 AM

@noby maybe cl_cpu_throttle is at 0?

this might be a ddnet vs no ddnet thing more than a 0.7 vs 0.6

a gerdoe 04-Jan-20 02:33 AM

my fans always making terrible noices when im playing teeworlds

noby 04-Jan-20 02:35 AM

yes its at 0

what should it be

fokkonaut 04-Jan-20 02:36 AM

mine is at 0 too and my pc is as "loud" as always xd

Dune 04-Jan-20 03:16 AM

@fokkonaut @noby 1 if you want to save cpu

fokkonaut 04-Jan-20 03:16 AM

does it affect the game in any way

like v-sync?

Dune 04-Jan-20 03:16 AM

I don't know

fokkonaut 04-Jan-20 03:17 AM

then ill leave it 0

noby 04-Jan-20 03:21 AM

ok thx

Fudgy 04-Jan-20 03:43 AM

I played with throttle for years and seems I can play properly

ChillerDragon 04-Jan-20 09:37 AM

That’s why you are so bad lol @Fudgy

Sneak 04-Jan-20 10:29 AM

That's mean

Deleted User 04-Jan-20 02:22 PM

ingful

Skayland 04-Jan-20 04:59 PM

Lmao

Fudgy 04-Jan-20 05:23 PM

Skayland 04-Jan-20 06:52 PM

@LordSk hi, i want to host your mod (zomb 3.3) in south america, but i dont know what are the settings for a complete and clean autoexec.cfg, and im getting errors when trying to compile it, can i dm you?

LordSk 04-Jan-20 06:55 PM

sure

jxsl13 04-Jan-20 07:43 PM

anyone laser zCatch?

come as long as it's hot

rdr 04-Jan-20 07:50 PM

Joined the server.

Tyson where on that srever?

server?

Trafalgar Law 04-Jan-20 07:51 PM

https://discord.gg/SEHneC This server dude

jxsl13 04-Jan-20 07:53 PM

0.7

who is Tyson

.-.

Trafalgar Law 04-Jan-20 07:53 PM

He is asking about my mod

And I told him to join our dc server

now he joined here

xd

Assa 04-Jan-20 08:43 PM

@Dune bridge down?

lol, discord bug <.<

Dune 04-Jan-20 08:43 PM

No idea

Fudgy 04-Jan-20 09:44 PM

I have now 2 good racer of 0.6 trying 0.7 and they have some kind of input delay. One of them didnt have that delay earlier this year. I dont have that problem so idk what is going on. Is this related to sdl? Anyone has an idea?

Iman 04-Jan-20 11:23 PM

i love the new skins

Dune 04-Jan-20 11:25 PM

@Fudgy vsync, or something from ddnet

Sonix 04-Jan-20 11:27 PM

antiping :d

Skayland 05-Jan-20 03:34 AM

Chile Zomb server is online :D Search for: identifyy chile ~ zomb

thanks @LordSk

(edited)

Souly 05-Jan-20 04:31 AM

btw

@Trafalgar Law why am i banned from your server on discord?

Skayland 05-Jan-20 07:19 AM

anyone knows where to contact Pikotee?

fokkonaut 05-Jan-20 09:39 AM

not really, but here is his GitHub: https://github.com/Pikotee/teeworlds

Pikotee/teeworlds

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Pikotee/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

If you wanna host uTown, I'd guess thats okay, since its open source and many people did so already.

Rice 05-Jan-20 10:24 AM

Joined the server.

ChillerDragon 05-Jan-20 11:24 AM

i have his skype :troll:

ShootXen 05-Jan-20 11:44 AM

who?

Skayland 05-Jan-20 11:46 AM

@fokkonaut problem is i need utown entities, all maps i have found are bad

fokkonaut 05-Jan-20 11:46 AM

true

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10174

[MOD] uTown (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

[MOD] uTown (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

maybe something here idk

Skayland 05-Jan-20 11:47 AM

And im a decent mapper so i wanna make one myself, but i need the entities :p i cant figure out all the stuff just with the code lol i aint programmer

I havent found anything there sadly

@ChillerDragon can you ask pikotee if he has any utown entities.png? :d

Deleted User 05-Jan-20 02:33 PM

anyone know some 0.7 game.pngs?

Dune 05-Jan-20 02:37 PM

the 0.6 ones work (almost) fine

fokkonaut 05-Jan-20 02:38 PM

only difference is ninja bar, right?

Dune 05-Jan-20 02:40 PM

should be yeah

Deleted User 05-Jan-20 02:41 PM

didnt 0.7 change more things than that

Dune 05-Jan-20 02:42 PM

adjust some offsets etc. the old game.png will work just fine

Deleted User 05-Jan-20 02:49 PM

why isnt this in the real game

Shadoo 05-Jan-20 02:57 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 05-Jan-20 02:59 PM

what is this?

fokkonaut 05-Jan-20 03:00 PM

I guess its a decoration

Deleted User 05-Jan-20 03:25 PM

yeah

i put 2 at once

Assa 05-Jan-20 04:45 PM

@Fudgy what does their inp_grab say? it should be 0

this removed my mouse delay

Dune 05-Jan-20 05:02 PM

raw mouse input

ChillerDragon 05-Jan-20 06:44 PM

@Skayland i do not have any skype installed i guess he does not either

Skayland 05-Jan-20 06:44 PM

Rip

topic 05-Jan-20 08:31 PM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 05-Jan-20 08:38 PM

@ChillerDragon skype web

Trafalgar Law 05-Jan-20 08:38 PM

Skype

Souly 05-Jan-20 10:53 PM

@Trafalgar Law unban me from teeserver ;-;

Arseniy Zarche 05-Jan-20 10:55 PM

hh = hook-hook or hh = hammer-hit?

Trafalgar Law 05-Jan-20 10:56 PM

hammerhit

Souly 05-Jan-20 10:56 PM

laaaaaw

unban

Fudgy 05-Jan-20 11:56 PM

It felt rly weird with 0 for me, I play with 1

Idk about them

Skayland 06-Jan-20 12:33 AM

send all the discord teeworlds related invites you have to my dm please

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 01:06 AM

@Skayland https://discord.gg/ThGZ45e

there you can find more invites.

Skayland 06-Jan-20 01:24 AM

Thanks

Dune 06-Jan-20 12:20 PM

@Skayland https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=123315#p123315

ShootXen 06-Jan-20 01:20 PM

reee nade symbol

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 01:46 PM

DDNet: https://discord.gg/22sqGcB gCTF: https://discord.gg/tFQBBGu gCTF 0.7: https://discord.gg/EqASBTF FNG: https://discord.gg/3F7WaTW ICTF: https://discord.gg/R4dRmYq Race: https://discord.gg/UPrCmD2 |KoG|: https://discord.gg/thNxYjm Teeworlds: https://discord.gg/WmvehPU Official Instagib: https://discord.gg/c6UqxcZ Official Infclass: https://discord.gg/vmsvj7H Bombay Block: https://discord.gg/3YpEbUh

@Dune would be nice if you could add these to that list.

Dune 06-Jan-20 01:54 PM

Post on the topic, it's there for that

One invite expired

Skayland 06-Jan-20 02:45 PM

Thanks dune

zizou 06-Jan-20 03:48 PM

Joined the server.

ShootXen 06-Jan-20 05:14 PM

why Offical Instagib

that titel only belongs to the creater of the first instagib mod

in teeworlds

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 05:14 PM

dunno, it says so in zcatch invites channel

ShootXen 06-Jan-20 05:14 PM

they should get straight banned

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 05:15 PM

Tomness94?

ShootXen 06-Jan-20 05:15 PM

what does I know

who owns it

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 05:15 PM

or was it someone lese?

ShootXen 06-Jan-20 05:15 PM

not sure

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 05:15 PM

who made insta?

ShootXen 06-Jan-20 05:15 PM

started playing teeworlds in 2010 or 11

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 05:15 PM

hm, k

I think he did some instagib mods back in the days

ShootXen 06-Jan-20 05:16 PM

as for me I own the FNG discord but never claim it to be offical

there was also a confusion made from noby once to say other servers that his server "f n g" is the real one now because I kicked him and a bunch of other trolls from the discord. e.g. konsti, ezy (edited)

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 05:17 PM

konsti is not a troll

konsti bot

ShootXen 06-Jan-20 05:20 PM

but I can tell. my ban list was huge (edited)

a gerdoe 06-Jan-20 05:56 PM

zillywoods > no problem with the vcruntime140.dll official 0.7.4 > i dont give a fuck (edited)

ChillerDragon 06-Jan-20 06:02 PM

@a gerdoe which zillywoods version tho? it can be based on a more recent version of vanilla

so 0.7.5 probably works fine as well

a gerdoe 06-Jan-20 06:03 PM

0.7.5 out?

...

i have clean windows 7

девственная красота Виндоус 7...

Dune 06-Jan-20 06:05 PM

Probably the way chiller compiles it on win

What do you use?

ChillerDragon 06-Jan-20 06:06 PM

oh yea i use visual studio that could be it

a gerdoe 06-Jan-20 06:06 PM

incredibuild?

cmake?

Dune 06-Jan-20 06:06 PM

gerdoe: you can install vs runtime to fix that issue on vanilla

a gerdoe 06-Jan-20 06:06 PM

how?

i already have it (edited)

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 06:07 PM

FAQ

the masses gather

zizou 06-Jan-20 06:07 PM

regarding instagib there is also a server called "iCTF" where the most insta players are i guess, if someone is interested

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 06:07 PM

to answer

redix 06-Jan-20 06:26 PM

Maybe gerdoe used different versions of the clients (x86 vs x64) and he just has the vs runtime for one of them installed

Teeworlds itself links the runtime statically. The freetype dll needs vcruntime140.dll

Assa 06-Jan-20 07:42 PM

catch64 now supports more skins

a gerdoe 06-Jan-20 07:50 PM

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 08:41 PM

:banhammer:

Trafalgar Law 06-Jan-20 08:41 PM

jxsl13 06-Jan-20 08:41 PM

ty

Rudya 06-Jan-20 09:04 PM

Joined the server.

is anyone playing race and gores?

Firi 06-Jan-20 10:13 PM

Joined the server.

Gamer. 06-Jan-20 10:14 PM

^^ thats my friend

Skayland 06-Jan-20 10:34 PM

good, tell him to talk about teeworlds to his friends and make a chain so teeworlds gets a million players in a week

Ceeno 07-Jan-20 03:36 PM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 07-Jan-20 06:08 PM

is 0.7.4 cool ?

fokkonaut 07-Jan-20 06:08 PM

ye

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 07-Jan-20 06:14 PM

why ?

Sonix 07-Jan-20 06:42 PM

cause i can be a hippo

ChillerDragon 07-Jan-20 06:54 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 the 0.7.4 menu is literally freezing its as "cool" as it gets

Assa 07-Jan-20 07:05 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 it really is cool, much more features, much wow

see here for new features

https://teeworlds.com/?page=news&id=13358

a gerdoe 07-Jan-20 07:16 PM

someone must put ninja time indicator changing in hud

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 07-Jan-20 07:42 PM

Appealing 08-Jan-20 01:16 AM

Joined the server.

miu 08-Jan-20 08:49 AM

Joined the server.

ChillerDragon 08-Jan-20 12:03 PM

@jxsl13 https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=123899#p123899 the ictf discord is a duplicate of dunes post

sarmun 08-Jan-20 01:33 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 08-Jan-20 10:49 PM

@jxsl13 dont

hehe

jxsl13 08-Jan-20 10:49 PM

I'm lazy :(

warm hearted 09-Jan-20 01:01 AM

Joined the server.

klenha 09-Jan-20 05:00 PM

lol vali ddosing

jxsl13 09-Jan-20 05:09 PM

what is a vali anf why is it ddosing?

Skayland 09-Jan-20 05:34 PM

Vali is a guy

And probably ddosing because he is a dumb guy

a gerdoe 09-Jan-20 05:38 PM

Skayland 09-Jan-20 05:39 PM

a gerdoe 09-Jan-20 07:14 PM

eh

ShootXen 09-Jan-20 07:48 PM

who

is getting attacked

Iman 10-Jan-20 12:48 AM

i was wondering something, is the dyn/not dyn conflict just generated by the fact that dyn is a deep change in teeworlds gameplay and older player cant get used to so they argue about the fact that devs should remove it ? i mean if dyn was born with tw do u still think that there would be any conflict ?

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:01 AM

Dyn was default in vanilla for ages

Iman 10-Jan-20 01:06 AM

since when ? i'm kinda new in tw ("only" 7-8 months) but i don't think that tw community renew a lot

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:09 AM

Since very early

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:10 AM

Most unfair, unnecessary and unbalanced feature added ever. Sry for the flame

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:11 AM

It was not added, it's always been there

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:11 AM

Well it was not a good choice then xd

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:11 AM

It's necessary, you cannot see far enough with static for some things

Iman 10-Jan-20 01:12 AM

oh ok i tought it was added

bcs some ppl want to delete it

sorry i didn't understood

how old is this game ?

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:12 AM

Some use dyn some do not -> some have advantages

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:13 AM

depends how you count, some 12 years

Iman 10-Jan-20 01:13 AM

12 years ?

ok

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:13 AM

Dune: why do all the best ictf ppl all have dyn you think?

Iman 10-Jan-20 01:13 AM

so the conflict between dyn/not dyn lasted 12 years xD ?

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:13 AM

Nope

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:13 AM

haven't seen much conflict

Iman 10-Jan-20 01:13 AM

ye

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:13 AM

@Tonixe because static camera range is shorter than laser range

Iman 10-Jan-20 01:14 AM

ok

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:14 AM

True so dyn gives unfair advantage

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:14 AM

Since it is a built-in option, it is arguable that it is unfair

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:15 AM

Just stay out of range

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:16 AM

Personally, I think dynamic camera is fine, but static cam' could use some adjustments given we have completely different hardware than a decade ago

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:17 AM

My idea is just: no dyn, so its the same for everyone so equal chances

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:17 AM

Well, people who are used to static and dynamic camera will have radically different opinions and you cannot reach consensus on this

And without consensus, this will not change, especially not on gameplay issues

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:18 AM

Meh, what about using both

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:19 AM

Very cumbersome and requires advanced customization knowledge

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:19 AM

True, but moving from dyn to static is not hard, maybe a month and u are used to it

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:19 AM

Good luck convincing the dyncam players

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:19 AM

Many players use dynbind

Even if there would be a vote for deleting dyn cam. All dyn players would vote no and all static players will vote yes

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:21 AM

And without consensus, this will not change, especially not on gameplay issues

Iman 10-Jan-20 01:21 AM

delete static :P

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:22 AM

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:22 AM

Imho there is no consensus needed, there will always be ppl that disagree, but in the longterm it will be better without dyn

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:23 AM

What about blue snd red team

redix 10-Jan-20 01:23 AM

Thing is... You cannot just remove it. You can easily readd it to the client. When you limit it server side there might be display issues for really fast moving tees

Iman 10-Jan-20 01:23 AM

blue is better

delete red

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:23 AM

Blue is unfair sometimes

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:23 AM

@redix eh, you can clip the same way you clip atm, with the same margin

in the hypothetical scenario where you'd remove it, you could reduce clipping by a lot

I play blue vs pink, it looks nice :D

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:24 AM

You’re anti-red then uh

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:25 AM

my blue is lighter as well :) I don't like the saturated colors

redix 10-Jan-20 01:25 AM

Then you might see fast tees suddenly appearing. You can probably reduce the range yeah... But not too much

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:25 AM

@redix same issue as you would have right now with dyncam

Iman 10-Jan-20 01:26 AM

bye, got to sleep

redix 10-Jan-20 01:26 AM

Hmm true... So the range is probably way too high right now :O

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:27 AM

for static, it is extremely high yeah (and a cheat factor)

a good compromise (imo) would be to bridge the difference between static & dynamic by a bit by increasing static

so you'd cover the range of a laser shot for example

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:29 AM

Add spider senses on static

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:29 AM

tee senses :D

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:29 AM

Danger alerts

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:29 AM

You realise that this is the reason that players tried to do this with using the zoom cheat to compensate the advantage of dyn

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:30 AM

yeah no, with full static you have the advantage of seeing in every direction, that's just a cheat (over dyn players) (edited)

but right now how far you can see in races is very silly imo

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:31 AM

Speed camera

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:31 AM

That'd be a neat idea, @Sonix

Might fuck with aiming though?

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:31 AM

Yes, but for example def in gctf with dyn, you know which way the tees will come so the other direction doesnt really matter

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:32 AM

Sure but it matters in plenty of situations, you can't deny that, @Tonixe

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Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:32 AM

Should be applied to moving direction and velocity

redix 10-Jan-20 01:32 AM

When people can see you in gctf you are too slow

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:32 AM

:D

redix 10-Jan-20 01:32 AM

Especially on ctf5

Tonixe 10-Jan-20 01:32 AM

What?

Dune 10-Jan-20 01:33 AM

I wanna have medals for my flag grabs

teellama grab

Sonix 10-Jan-20 01:33 AM

Since its a fast paced game, u gotta go fast if u want to see more

Less if ure a snail

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 02:31 AM

the argument should be as rand said static vs zoom basically. as long as the server sends that much info without the client needing it, it's an open door. dyn cam is also not balanced, especially combinations of dyn + static or simply full dyn cam with a mouse sens of 500 and dpi between 800 and 2000 alloe you to basically see the full dyn range in all directions.

Assa 10-Jan-20 02:32 AM

You could at least optimize the code to just show players in dyn-direction

well, if you flick to fast player info isn't there?

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 02:34 AM

which in fact would need to conpensate for latency, most likely also velocity. heinrich pointed out that this flicking might either imaginary or actually be covered by some blur effect in order for it to be some kind of motion blur. (edited)

Assa 10-Jan-20 02:35 AM

motion blur sucks

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 02:35 AM

so does having a disadvantage

on the full static end of the stick.

a gerdoe 10-Jan-20 09:36 AM

zoom in official tw will be stupid, because we are using png structure

we must use vector images for zoom implementing

Dune 10-Jan-20 09:47 AM

When you make images smaller, you need less image resolution, not more

a gerdoe 10-Jan-20 10:26 AM

when im using ddnet and making images smaller, i get artifacts (edited)

blur image isnt good

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 11:19 AM

4k screen for less blur?

teini94 10-Jan-20 04:47 PM

@Tonixe not all static players would vote no the pro static players accept dyn I also hate static enemys cause they can aim & move super fast in pvp (but ok for me) dyn in the other hand is very hard to learn ,to be pro but you can atleast snipe a bit. dynbind sounds cheaty but its ok I guess 1 more button to press. but was surprised that dyn is not main activated anymore. so people always call others pros bots, who dont see them when they get killed may delete static ? static 2 overpowered these dayz (edited)

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 04:58 PM

dyn cam hard to learn -> people temd to use zoom clients if they are available. (edited)

heinrich5991 10-Jan-20 05:00 PM

I doubt that this is the general attitude

I think most people are on non-cheat clients

a gerdoe 10-Jan-20 05:00 PM

person uses zoom in vanilla/instagib/grenade/fng modes => community hates him and ban him by all time

heinrich5991 10-Jan-20 05:01 PM

similar: "aiming is hard to learn -> people tend to use aimbots if they are available"

a gerdoe 10-Jan-20 05:01 PM

thats right

heinrich5991 10-Jan-20 05:01 PM

which I also don't think is true

a gerdoe 10-Jan-20 05:02 PM

not all players are using cheats

heinrich5991 10-Jan-20 05:02 PM

I would go as far as "most players aren't cheating"

Iman 10-Jan-20 05:09 PM

wow

Dune 10-Jan-20 05:10 PM

Fair assumption

Iman 10-Jan-20 05:10 PM

groundbreaking

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 05:56 PM

Well, with people I don't mean everyone. In 0.6 a few were enough until someone gets caught and the whole situtaion escalates into tue direction of: everyone playing as if they use dyn cam are accused of zooming.

Skayland 10-Jan-20 08:08 PM

thats why my clan uses noby's antibot fng :o

it has a crude "anti zoom" too

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:17 PM

0.7 & open source?

Skayland 10-Jan-20 08:20 PM

you said 0.6 (edited)

noby's fng is 0.6

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:21 PM

0.6 is mostly dead and infested with cheaters, imo. at least what I played.

Skayland 10-Jan-20 08:22 PM

300+ players tho

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:22 PM

so I don't care much about it

ddrace + fng?

or are there any other active mods?

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:27 PM

0.7 can be infested with cheaters tooo

Skayland 10-Jan-20 08:34 PM

@jxsl13 ddrace, fng, monster, ctf/dm/tdm, zcatch, block, infclass, ifcity, gores :p people should stop saying 0.6 is dead smh, its gonna be alive and more alive than 0.7 until ddnet client forces everyone to update (if they ever do)

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:35 PM

it will most likely, @Ryozuki ,

guess there is no monster on 0.7? infclass neither?

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:36 PM

0.6 is not dead

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:36 PM

porting the city is kinda heavy, I'd guess

Skayland 10-Jan-20 08:37 PM

ifcity is already ported

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:37 PM

imo zcatch on 0.6 is dead, is there ever a server with more than 10 players, as that's the required minimum number of players to end a round there (edited)

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:38 PM

There is

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:38 PM

:o

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:38 PM

Most often its full

Skayland 10-Jan-20 08:38 PM

its not 10 players, im sure its less

around 5

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:38 PM

nice, gotta tell them to switch to 0.7

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:38 PM

Depends what timenu look at it

Skayland 10-Jan-20 08:38 PM

and there is enough activity on zcatch

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:39 PM

well, if one were to look at them from the chile timezone, I guess it might be more often empty

as most players are usually from Europe and russia

0.7 is rather active, but as active as it can get with an average of 200(?) players

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:41 PM

Getting more ppl to play tw would be fun

But inwonder how a game like this can grow

I guesd it lacks a reason to come back for most ppl who try it

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:42 PM

gotta get the game into german television again.

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:42 PM

I would seriousoy invest time in making funnier oficial gamemodes

Skayland 10-Jan-20 08:42 PM

well 0.6 has more than 400 players

from all around the globe, so you wont see all of them at the same time obviously

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:43 PM

This game has awesome tee x tee interaction which can make for good unique gamemodes

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:43 PM

some kinda crowd funding for an advertising campaign, maybe some organizations funding open source or some of the more experienced professional programmers doing some talk with teeworlds as a base that goes viral? (edited)

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:43 PM

A reason why ddrace was born

Skayland 10-Jan-20 08:44 PM

chillerdragon has like 11k subscribers right?

where are all those people

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:45 PM

steam seems to play a good part in this game not completely dying out

as well

Ryozuki 10-Jan-20 08:45 PM

Tw wont go viral cuz it has nothing catchy from a newcommer view, u need a easy and fun gamemode

@Skayland ppl grow up and has things to do in life, tw got rly famous due to a german tv as

Ad

And a chilean youtuber

Thatsbit

It*

Iman 10-Jan-20 08:48 PM

tw isnt new player friendly since everybody else in the game is already 1000 times stronger than u and there isnt any matchmaking wich could help u to find ppl with ur level

imao

Trafalgar Law 10-Jan-20 08:49 PM

Not for every mode @Iman

Iman 10-Jan-20 08:50 PM

yes indeed in ddrace being carried or blocked by someone else help u to improve your skills

1

:P

fokkonaut 10-Jan-20 08:58 PM

@Skayland he has 2k or so

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 08:59 PM

that's wuy zCatch has a beginner server that doesn't seem to work out properly xD.. anyway it's there. insert :monkaS:

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 09:10 PM

it's interesting that some 0.5.2 players are coming back to the game

Iman 10-Jan-20 09:22 PM

Honestly i think that zcatch beginner is a great idea

it's very newcomers friendly

jxsl13 10-Jan-20 09:32 PM

is ded server

Iman 10-Jan-20 09:35 PM

:|

Lukas Kawalec 10-Jan-20 10:45 PM

Joined the server.

SyxGod 11-Jan-20 02:37 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 11-Jan-20 03:55 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=123916#p123916 gamer 5.6.1 is out, and includes @Fisico's new sounds (UI, race). Feel free to give him feedback so we can roll that in for the next teeworlds release

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jxsl13 11-Jan-20 04:01 PM

the zCatch icons are kinda not fitting :'/ as the No Bullshit server is actually a laser server. it's not directly deducable from the mod name.

did you also add the pull request you recently ooened that hides the chat as well :D when the HUD is disabled?

Dune 11-Jan-20 04:08 PM

the zCatch icons are kinda not fitting :'/

then make it better

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 04:30 PM

question 1 of 2 answered

@Dune what resolutions are supported only 64 x 64?

or can I try making a bad 512x512 variant?

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 04:49 PM

is there some kind of teeworlds font out there as a proper font?

hm, know your product

Dune 11-Jan-20 05:00 PM

idk, you can try HD and if it doesn't work, scale down

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 06:26 PM

dunno, looks bad, but at least has laser and grenade in it

Dune 11-Jan-20 06:27 PM

Maybe there should be one gametype string per gameplay, like in Teeworlds

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 06:28 PM

dunno, how to properly name it then. like zCatch/i zCatch/g?

looks bad and prefixing stuff also kinda looks bad

Sonix 11-Jan-20 06:29 PM

zCi

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 06:30 PM

._. without removing the whole name

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 06:40 PM

"zCatch/hammer"; "zCatch/gun"; "zCatch/shotgun"; "zCatch/g"; "zCatch/i"; "zCatch/ninja";

?

Sonix 11-Jan-20 06:47 PM

is that a poem

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 06:52 PM

would you marry me

xD

ok, so the clients show a max of 8 gametype characters

"zCatch/h"; "zCatch/p"; // p for pistol "zCatch/s"; "zCatch/g"; "zCatch/i"; "zCatch/n"; "zCatch/e";

(edited)

Dune 11-Jan-20 06:53 PM

don't put anything for the popular grenade mode

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 06:54 PM

there was a time that laser was popular

and there might come a time where something else might be popular

Dune 11-Jan-20 06:54 PM

KISS for now :) don't think everyone will switch to shotgun zcatch

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 06:58 PM

I'd like not to prefer any weapon over the other one, I'm highly expecting grenade and laser to stay the most played ones, thus they are kinda on the same level imo and should be treated equally

Dune 11-Jan-20 06:59 PM

that's just two weapons, no need to use two more chars to differentiate them imo

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 07:01 PM

what do you suggest then ._.

Skayland 11-Jan-20 07:44 PM

I think laser will always be the best zcatch, grenade is acceptable too, but gun, hammer, shotgun, ninja? :/ i think thats a nonono for most old players (edited)

Dune 11-Jan-20 07:45 PM

ninja instagib is amazing :)

Skayland 11-Jan-20 07:49 PM

Instagib is a different story :D i think any weapon is ok there

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 07:59 PM

instagib + shotgun

instagib + gun

Skayland 11-Jan-20 07:59 PM

I would say ctf+instagib dm+instagib Etc

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 08:01 PM

do you mean instant death + any weapon, as that sounds like you mean it.

and now it sounds like you mean laser instagib + any game mode

Skayland 11-Jan-20 08:04 PM

Any mode + instant death with any weapon

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 08:05 PM

hm k

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:29 PM

@jxsl13 gCatch?

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:31 PM

hm

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5344

[MOD] zCatch (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

[MOD] zCatch (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

Dune 11-Jan-20 09:31 PM

most people use zcatch for grenade nowadays, isn't zcatch/icatch better?

Sonix 11-Jan-20 09:32 PM

iCatch by apple

Dune 11-Jan-20 09:32 PM

:D

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:32 PM

z stands for Zombie

:'/

the roots of the mod

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:39 PM

ddrace means "dummy drag race", it's very far from the origins

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:42 PM

not really Oo

it's an acronym

and still persists, as people get dragged around like dummies and dragging other people as dummies

even tho there are no actual dummies in the game (anymore?) (edited)

Dune 11-Jan-20 09:44 PM

I really liked dummy drag racing :) what happened to it, @heinrich5991 ?

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:45 PM

@jxsl13 dummy dragging was originally someone who hung from a ceiling that you needed to drag through a parcour

so that you can use them as a dummy later on

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:46 PM

Grandpa tells story’s from the ol‘ days xD

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:46 PM

the current form of dummy dragging is a bit different, and came a lot later than ddrace being called ddrace

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:47 PM

some russian dude -> greyfox -> ddnet?

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:47 PM

O.0 I did not hear about the Russian dude

Any more details?

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:47 PM

I forgot, it's 12 years ago, maybe 11

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:47 PM

We should probably write that history down somewhere

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:48 PM

gotta dig in repos maybe

I think is was some kinda Gandalf dude or something like that xD

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:48 PM

I digged in repos

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:48 PM

at least his profile picture in the iPv4? board was something like that

ip forum software, if I'm not mistaken, maybe it was already when greyfox was developing this

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:49 PM

russian dude = 3da

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:49 PM

hm, ok

where did you find that :D?

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:49 PM

memory

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:49 PM

nice

got a link?

x)

redix 11-Jan-20 09:50 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=7693

[Client] [Server] [MOD] DDRace (Page 1) — Modifications — Teew...

[Client] [Server] [MOD] DDRace (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:50 PM

oof

it stands there

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:50 PM

based on [n]race by NoxNebula

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:51 PM

ooof, I don't remembe rthat part

nox did some great mods back in the days

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:51 PM

So who invited freeze?

Invented

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:51 PM

Tomness94

?

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:51 PM

I believe the idea was born in iFreeze, back in the days

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:51 PM

Tom94

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:51 PM

it was an instagib mod where you became frozen instead of killed

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

teambased instagib game

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

once a team was completely frozen, you win

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

I see so the whole thing evolved over time and multiple people

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

you could hug others so they melt

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

first mod I played

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

quite a nice mod, played it a lot

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

Block was there before ddrace lol

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

fng (freeze new generation) was born out of that

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

Pvp based freeze

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

there were no freeze tiles

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

yeah, blumentop fng, second mod I played

x)

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:52 PM

yes, blumentopf

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:53 PM

Seriously we need a documentation of that

@heinrich5991 pls Post another blog about this or something

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:53 PM

zCatch originated from blumentop fng, if I remember correctly.

I think eard wanted to do some kinda mod like fng, as it was closed source

erd

codename "SuperInsta"

x)

created some race games and then I think zCatch

hprace or something like that

or hrace

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:55 PM

You also were there for a while huh @jxsl13?

When did you start

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:55 PM

about august 2008

Sonix 11-Jan-20 09:55 PM

oof 2009 times

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:55 PM

I sometimes feel like I missed a lot

a28b 11-Jan-20 09:55 PM

h_race in vanilla servers with teamflags for times ftw

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:56 PM

At least I’m not 0.7 steam generation xD

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:56 PM

was it h_race, the mod by erdbaer, @a28b ?

a28b 11-Jan-20 09:56 PM

h_race is a map-series afaik

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:57 PM

no, I mean the mpd, it was teambased, if I remember correctly

mod

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:57 PM

There are so many great ways to play the game :/ I wish we had some players to play them

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:57 PM

you could join a team and race together without seeing the other teams

redix 11-Jan-20 09:57 PM

back in 0.3 teewars times... when the gametype was an integer for DM, TDM and CTF

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:57 PM

lol

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:57 PM

I'm not that old

a28b 11-Jan-20 09:57 PM

i think it was just vanilla, you had to join a team, get the flag at the start and walk to the end and bring the flag there

it then said your time

only one person could race

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:58 PM

was that like one of the first mods?

:D?

a28b 11-Jan-20 09:58 PM

i guess, no idea

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:58 PM

that was manual race, ye

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:58 PM

hm, k

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:58 PM

I thought the first tw mod was xXuTownCity++64Xx

1

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

xD

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

there's also some name for the game type where you play ctf on a very racy map with lots of death tiles

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

I can imagine stuff like insta

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

don't remember that

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

Being first

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

race introduced unhookable tiles, that got into vanilla later

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

Fly

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

Oh that’s interesting

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

Fly if I'm not mistaken

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

fly, yea

redix 11-Jan-20 09:59 PM

first real mod with a string as gametype was instagib i think

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 10:00 PM

Always thought unhook came from vanilla

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:00 PM

yeah

redix 11-Jan-20 10:00 PM

followed by race... there was still player - player collision

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 10:00 PM

oh yea, blockers in race

that was fun :<

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 10:00 PM

Wait but hookfly rocketfly rocketjumps and Hammerfly etc comes from vanilla right?

redix 11-Jan-20 10:00 PM

in 0.5 matricks added the player_collision tune param

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 10:01 PM

these mechanics also work in vanilla

I don't think they were tested in vanilla first

(work, if you disregard the damage)

a28b 11-Jan-20 10:01 PM

@heinrich5991 trying to get past spawn for 40 min, beating the blocker XD

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:01 PM

and now matricks op game engine dev ._.

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 10:01 PM

Yea but those were not introduced or inspired by ddrace mods?

Sonix 11-Jan-20 10:02 PM

damn i started in 0.3.x too @redix we old

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:02 PM

u old, tru

>:D

redix 11-Jan-20 10:02 PM

oh yeah

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 10:02 PM

Cool that Ur still around

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:02 PM

matricks old as well

redix 11-Jan-20 10:02 PM

always coming back ^^

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 10:03 PM

Well but I would not call matricks around

Was that even English?

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:03 PM

he needs to come around and share some of his wisdom and give tome directions

some

[n]City was the first city

was it?

hCatch pCatch // p for pistol sCatch gCatch iCatch nCatch

hm

a28b 11-Jan-20 10:06 PM

keep the z

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:06 PM

hCatchz

x)

a28b 11-Jan-20 10:07 PM

zCatchH

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:07 PM

"zCatch/h"; "zCatch/p"; // p for pistol "zCatch/s"; "zCatch/g"; "zCatch/i"; "zCatch/n";

that's about the longest string the gametype string can fit

ChillerDragon 11-Jan-20 10:07 PM

Granatenwerfermerkball

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:08 PM

Zombieball

a28b 11-Jan-20 10:08 PM

german D:

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:08 PM

me not

illegal

Sonix 11-Jan-20 10:09 PM

i remember playing instagib for the first times

on a map called streetwars

a28b 11-Jan-20 10:09 PM

how/when was freeze in race / ddrace included?

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:11 PM

in greyfox times, if I remember correctly

I wonder where the awesome rotating lasers are?

or the shotgun bullet turrets?

heinrich5991 11-Jan-20 10:11 PM

they're still in the game mod

shotgun bullet turrets aren't

freeze is in ddrace since its first version I think

jxsl13 11-Jan-20 10:14 PM

best times, when I made a killer map for ddrace

50x50, best time was one hour

Sonix 11-Jan-20 10:17 PM

them feels

@redix open up a insta server with streetwars pls

redix 11-Jan-20 10:19 PM

haha

dont know that map

Sonix 11-Jan-20 10:19 PM

rly?

it was played a lot back then i remember

full servers haha

redix 11-Jan-20 10:20 PM

well i hardly played insta ^^

Sonix 11-Jan-20 10:20 PM

opening up a srv j4f

If anyone wants to play some rounds feel free to join

"Sonix Insta Streetwars"

Flappy 11-Jan-20 10:57 PM

Joined the server.

Virket 12-Jan-20 02:10 AM

Joined the server.

Skayland 12-Jan-20 02:42 AM

heinrich5991 today at 17:52 fng (freeze new generation) was born out of that

i thought fng = fucking noby's game

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Sneak 12-Jan-20 03:48 AM

I share your sadness my friend

a28b 12-Jan-20 02:26 PM

Is it normal that the editor only previews the linear thing in the red marked box?

a gerdoe 12-Jan-20 04:25 PM

are you talking about quad preview

or what

a28b 12-Jan-20 05:57 PM

@a gerdoe yes

ShootXen 12-Jan-20 05:59 PM

@Dune

automapper almost works o.O

only grass

Dune 12-Jan-20 06:00 PM

some maps are designed like that yeah, and then you can't really use it

fortunately most aren't

ShootXen 12-Jan-20 06:00 PM

btw dune do you know something about that problem which I posted on #bridge ?

a28b 12-Jan-20 06:05 PM

@Dune can you add me to the two-way group?

ShootXen 12-Jan-20 06:06 PM

@Dune I will try to record it

Assa 12-Jan-20 06:10 PM

make it 2 tiles thicc and the automapper works

automapper can't map tiles that doesn't exist

ShootXen 12-Jan-20 06:18 PM

OBS and ShadowPlay are a pain in the ass (edited)

@Dune https://streamable.com/6h70s

around the end you should see it (edited)

nqn 12-Jan-20 07:19 PM

Joined the server.

ShootXen 12-Jan-20 08:27 PM

Next Discord flaw with QR Scan?

Skayland 12-Jan-20 09:27 PM

Is that noby's fng?

I guess not

Mau Angels 13-Jan-20 03:19 AM

Joined the server.

Sneak 13-Jan-20 10:50 AM

It’s the main teeworlds discord

Assa 13-Jan-20 04:56 PM

@ShootXen ?

ShootXen 13-Jan-20 06:08 PM

If someone is offering you a free Discord Nitro month with just scaning the QR code on your phone

@Assa

and you scan that code. you just give the exploiter your data

so he can login into your account

even if you have 2auth.

Assa 13-Jan-20 06:14 PM

now this is a huge issue

good you tell that to me, so i don't abuse this accidently

jao 13-Jan-20 07:19 PM

there is a big warning before you complete the process

you have to be dumb to fall for this

Assa 13-Jan-20 09:16 PM

Attachment: qrcode.svg (9.7 KB)

louis 14-Jan-20 02:29 AM

Joined the server.

~Criss~ 14-Jan-20 03:38 AM

Joined the server.

Souly 14-Jan-20 12:25 PM

tonton 14-Jan-20 03:51 PM

Joined the server.

ShootXen 15-Jan-20 12:40 AM

why zoom already so early in this game

@jxsl13

Skayland 15-Jan-20 12:41 AM

zoom? who? where?

ShootXen 15-Jan-20 12:42 AM

I have blocked you but read in #bridge (edited)

Skayland 15-Jan-20 12:42 AM

lol

blocked me why? because i told you its stupid to ban the owner of the most played fng server from a Fng discord?

ShootXen 15-Jan-20 12:45 AM

Dont know why I blocked you, probably because of your stupid commentaries after everytime I wrote something (edited)

I'm not part of the "troll" faction here in teewolds as you should already know

louis 15-Jan-20 02:17 AM

who banned who

Skayland 15-Jan-20 08:07 AM

Xen banned noby from an fng discord

And this is stupid

ShootXen 15-Jan-20 02:45 PM

he has been unbaned for months

the only players which are banned are: ezy, tinlex, vali, headshot, ryozuki, zombietoad

@Skayland

ShootXen 15-Jan-20 03:02 PM

but everyone with a few braincells can understand why

fokkonaut 15-Jan-20 03:09 PM

well, for ryozukii cant understand

only if he was toxic again

Skayland 15-Jan-20 03:48 PM

I know he is unbanned, but banming him was still stupi on the first place

ShootXen 15-Jan-20 04:38 PM

@fokkonaut I have a problem with players which are writing stupid statsments or such alike thing , and ryozuki did that at that time (edited)

Assa 15-Jan-20 06:19 PM

let's go catch64, people are there ❤️

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 06:27 PM

hide nicks .O

Assa 15-Jan-20 07:11 PM

can't,

show ingame id 1

fokkonaut 15-Jan-20 07:12 PM

thats a reason i want to remove ids from nameplates :p

because i use the name hiding in my survival minigame

but besides that its just ugly, i just need the ids in scoreboard

(and for more than 16 players in the spectator menu rshift)

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 07:32 PM

hm

Assa 15-Jan-20 08:03 PM

there is nothing you can do about this except making tee's completly invisible

(don't send snaps in character.cpp)

fokkonaut 15-Jan-20 08:21 PM

i have tiles that i place behind bushes, while on this tile the character is not sent

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 08:21 PM

sneaky and nice idea

hidden tiles

fokkonaut 15-Jan-20 08:30 PM

ty

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:01 PM

hi

dudes

and dudeses

fokkonaut 15-Jan-20 11:01 PM

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:01 PM

fokkonaut 15-Jan-20 11:01 PM

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:01 PM

@jxsl13

fokkonaut 15-Jan-20 11:02 PM

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:02 PM

dudines*

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:02 PM

brdige is for important stuff

like tw dev

fokkonaut 15-Jan-20 11:02 PM

dudettes

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:02 PM

after an escalated tw session, I think it might be time to take a break. but yeah, Imma read this here and respond with random answers

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:03 PM

ur vim looks slick @Ryozuki

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:03 PM

Luke Smith

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:03 PM

is it his?

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:03 PM

compiled tw in 9.435s

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:03 PM

ryou luke fanboi

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:03 PM

cmake + ninja and 12 virtual cores

best

@ChillerDragon my vim is fine tuned by gods

aka me

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:04 PM

lol

my vim is a mess

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:04 PM

fokkonaut 15-Jan-20 11:04 PM

my vim is not existing

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:04 PM

lol

nano user

or winscp

even worse

#!bin/bash^M command not found

xxD

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:04 PM

@ChillerDragon wat terminal emulator u use

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:05 PM

default gnome

or defula macos

or wsl on windows xd

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:05 PM

lol

https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/index.html

use this

opengl accelerated

and can render images

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:05 PM

why

would anyone need this

xd

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:05 PM

its faster

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:05 PM

i render images in ascii

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:05 PM

golang code, compiled in ine second.

one

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:06 PM

oh nice so i get more fps in my terminal games @Ryozuki ?

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:06 PM

ye

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:06 PM

my bash game has bad fps

xd

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:06 PM

if u got a gpu

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:06 PM

y i do

ima try it

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:06 PM

"Offloads rendering to the GPU for lower system load and buttery smooth scrolling. Uses threaded rendering to minimize input latency."

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:06 PM

Luke my boi talking about Arch elitism

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:06 PM

who is luke

arch best btw

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:06 PM

xd

ur big luke fanboi

we all know it

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

who is luke?

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

smith

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

I don't use any linux distro as desktop

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

i wish github has a watch later playlist

like youtube

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

xD

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

it would grow and grow

i use stars as watch later

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

that feature is called star

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

yea

but no

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

:o

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

i3wm ftw

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:07 PM

i do not unstar projects i used or installed @jxsl13

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:08 PM

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:08 PM

ascii art

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:08 PM

http://puu.sh/F0foq/dfbc54eb37.jpg

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:08 PM

i know some nice online puzzles for this

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:08 PM

xxD

cmatrix best

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:09 PM

https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/ascii-art

Practice Loops and Arrays with the exercise "ASCII Art"

Want to practice Loops and arrays? Try to solve the coding challenge "ASCII Art".

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:09 PM

echo "cmatrix bs" >> ~/.bashrc

lol i have an acc there

wat dis site

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:10 PM

watch later site

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:11 PM

sudo apt-get install sl sl -l

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:11 PM

@ChillerDragon the site were we competed and i beated u many times

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:11 PM

ah i remember

archimede the number guy and jao were there too

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:11 PM

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:11 PM

@Ryozuki which challange?

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:11 PM

competetive coding

xd

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:11 PM

xd

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:11 PM

?

Ryozuki 15-Jan-20 11:12 PM

https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/clashofcode

Practice your coding skills on short coding contests - Clash of Code

Join a group of 8 coders and try to be the first to code the best algorithm on 5min programming battles.

its this

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:12 PM

there are tournaments with leaques or you mean the 15 minute clash of codes?

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:12 PM

coc

@jxsl13 du sack

did u edit ur tw.com post to add tw adventures link

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:13 PM

xD

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:13 PM

xD

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:13 PM

i posted it already

so u created a dup

and abused ur higher post

ehrenlos

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:13 PM

I was young and I needed the money

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:13 PM

same here

i will fok u

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:14 PM

xX

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:14 PM

the ad race will begin

new yt video tomorrow

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:14 PM

3 days latery both banned from the tw discord

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:14 PM

xxD

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:14 PM

xD

I already started the ad race :o

zCatch, zCatch discord :0

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:15 PM

@jxsl13 you wrote Catch64 wrong

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:16 PM

http://puu.sh/F0fxm/24434dc8e6.png

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:16 PM

should i upgrade Ghost to 0.7 too

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:16 PM

i told my lgbtq+ club

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:16 PM

at least add the main tw link to get some new players here

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:16 PM

xd

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:16 PM

add www.teeworlds.com, too

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:17 PM

http://149.202.127.134:8080/X1

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:17 PM

true

thought I'd need to click like a few hours in the link

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:18 PM

+1

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:18 PM

woild have been satisfied none the less

would

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:18 PM

http://www.shadyurl.com/

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:18 PM

or oython script or golanh script :D

http://www.5z8.info/hookers_m0s3bw_malicious-cookie

Stiftung Warentest

Stiftung Warentest: Testberichte zu Elektronik, Haushalt und Gesundheit sowie Finanzen, Versicherung und Steuern

lol

preview available

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:20 PM

wtf

discord op

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:20 PM

ye

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:20 PM

"malicous-cookie" xDD

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:21 PM

lol shadyurl doesnt accept my url

it looks too shady

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:23 PM

ip is no url

?

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:24 PM

http://www.5z8.info/hitler_l5d2oc_aohell.exe

".exe" xD

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:24 PM

xd

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:25 PM

no discord preview, lol

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:25 PM

http:// + ip should be url tho (edited)

its no domain but still a url huh?

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:25 PM

http://www.5z8.info/awesome-real-life-headshots_f0m1xl_refugee-murder

^this post is even on topic

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:29 PM

pihole says no

link too slim shady

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:30 PM

you got a pihole, nice

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:30 PM

in a docker container on a nas :D (edited)

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:30 PM

watched LTT?

configured router or each divice?

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:30 PM

semper video

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:30 PM

got it for a year already or so

router

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:30 PM

nice

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:31 PM

learned about it from the gitea community if I remember correctly

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:31 PM

i tried it too

but im too stoopid

and my router is a fokin raspberry pi xd

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:31 PM

as pihole is also based on golanh, if I'm not mistaken

golang

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:31 PM

you only need a static ip, and a raspberry pi, what's the problem?

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:31 PM

why static ip

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:31 PM

you need to add the banned ip's manually

because your pihole is the new dns server?

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:32 PM

you need to habe tue pi running and chanhe the dns io of your router to you local pi's ip

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:32 PM

ah yea

the thing is i have no clue hwo to force my clients to use a specific dns

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:32 PM

i mean a local static ip

not a global one

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:33 PM

yy

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:33 PM

@ChillerDragon you don't need to, you can configure it in the router

otherwise google for each divice

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:33 PM

Giant fingers, not possible to type properly

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:33 PM

yea but idk how to coonfigure my router

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:33 PM

well, webinterface

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:33 PM

dont have a webinterface :/

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:34 PM

your router is a rapsberry pi? which software is it running?

Dune 15-Jan-20 11:34 PM

router configs are the worst

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:34 PM

uhm some stuff i found on github

idk i tried a bunch of configs and services ind the end its a mix idk

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:34 PM

don't you have huge latency problems with a raspberry pi as router?

Dune 15-Jan-20 11:34 PM

also isn't it a bit of a security concern? especially if u run win7 computers

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:35 PM

its running on 100% cpu load cuz i do other stuff with it and i have a tv 3 other raspis and 2 laptops and a phone connected

runs smooth af

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:35 PM

you are running a software router, that's the worst kind of router

ChillerDragon 15-Jan-20 11:35 PM

no win7 but why security concern @Dune ?

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:35 PM

synology nas ftw.

:D best investment

I want a pfSense router :'( but they are too expensive.

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:38 PM

they have virtual solutions XD

and i think they don't have wlan

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:39 PM

I want all the nice stuff like caching ._.

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:42 PM

i just googled some router benchmarks and wtf

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:42 PM

?

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:43 PM

there are routers with akkus

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:43 PM

batteries

who needs such crap, maybe some enterprise that's having problems with their external power suppliers

Assa 15-Jan-20 11:47 PM

i wanted to see some latency benchmarks for routers

but apperently latency is negligible

jxsl13 15-Jan-20 11:49 PM

guess so.

Xtreme 16-Jan-20 08:22 AM

Joined the server.

Trafalgar Law 16-Jan-20 11:14 AM

Is there are phone Version for 0.7?

Dune 16-Jan-20 11:17 AM

No

Trafalgar Law 16-Jan-20 11:17 AM

._.

Sonix 16-Jan-20 01:17 PM

Get a pc

ShootXen 16-Jan-20 01:20 PM

from what android said it's not going to happen, to much to do@Trafalgar Law

jxsl13 16-Jan-20 03:49 PM

pls make more channels, like announcements, changelog, FAQ, references, etc. in order to have like the development documentation at hand, FAQ, announcements etc. usually those channels don't allow for normal people to chat, as their sole purpose is that of a bulletin board.

Trafalgar Law 16-Jan-20 03:50 PM

True

jxsl13 16-Jan-20 03:51 PM

these could for example also reference other teeworlds related discords.

Dune 16-Jan-20 05:36 PM

at everyone advertisements are already possible and used for release announcements btw, @Assa

Assa 16-Jan-20 05:36 PM

why not make a channel for this?

Dune 16-Jan-20 05:37 PM

we could

Assa 16-Jan-20 05:37 PM

you could advertise tournaments, too

you perform the same ideology on teeworlds.com in the news page

jxsl13 16-Jan-20 05:54 PM

well, one would need to scroll up to read any of your announcements

what's bad and nobody would do that

zoom.7z made a nice discord structure for example

Itara 16-Jan-20 07:35 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 16-Jan-20 07:56 PM

they have such a cool bot in the arduino community discord

it takes too large code blocks and removes them and creates a gist on github (edited)

Dune 16-Jan-20 07:57 PM

removes them from?

jxsl13 16-Jan-20 07:57 PM

from thechat

like if I pasted a large chunk of code in here

Dune 16-Jan-20 07:58 PM

I don't think anyone ever did that here :p

jxsl13 16-Jan-20 07:58 PM

it would be removed and a gist being created from it

yeah, code related talks are here less common, :/

Assa 16-Jan-20 08:29 PM

a pastebin bot

i love the "stay hydrated" bot

it's like the annoying message i always get from ubisoft: "you are playing for 8 hours, you should do a break"

jxsl13 16-Jan-20 08:36 PM

the 8 hours message just motivates you to go for the 12 hours message (edited)

Iman 16-Jan-20 08:56 PM

xD

ChillerDragon 16-Jan-20 09:11 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/epj100/gamers_of_reddit_what_are_some_underrated_games/fekhq8e/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Gamers of Reddit, what are some underrated games do you think more...

Posted in r/AskReddit by u/Theuniquenamess • 29,968 points and 17,789 comments

Push em likes and get free players

Dune 16-Jan-20 09:12 PM

no brigading :p

Assa 16-Jan-20 11:09 PM

learned a new thing today, thank you Dune ❤️

Sneak 17-Jan-20 01:47 AM

ANNOUCING the mapping Tournament 2k20 Hello guys, after our live announcement during the previous stream, Corp decided to organise a new type of tournament called mapping tournament. Every players are invited to participate to this tournament and let his imagination mind blow us to another level of map design for gCTF. We are currently looking for a new « most played » map than ctf5. BASIS INFORMATIONs Timelimit : 1st march 2020, 20:00 CET Gametype : gCTF (2vs2 or 3vs3) Version : 0.7 Map submissions : Unlimited (we would be glad to see many maps propositions from the same person) Criterion : Your map must be open (not a close map like a cave) MAP SUBMISSION Submit your map(s) on our discord. If you need a server to test your map, feel free to ask me or TNT. Most of the maps will be test in live, check the stream

PRICES / REWARD Winner take all ! Actual prize is 100 € for the 1st. MODERATORS TNT, Sneak, KIRA https://discord.gg/UQPUtTr

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skua 17-Jan-20 05:19 AM

Joined the server.

Sonix 17-Jan-20 07:57 AM

Ooh neat feels challenging

Skayland 17-Jan-20 11:06 AM

I hope i win c:

On my currency 100€ is a lot of money

rqza 17-Jan-20 11:42 AM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 17-Jan-20 11:50 AM

anonymizing entries would make sense, like one entity that does not take part in judging the maps should do the anonymization part, basically giving every map an ID and map that ID to the actual party that created the map. without anyone else knowing who created which map.

then a winning ID is chosen the pereon taking care of the anonymization woukd the reveal the winner or the list whose map is whose. That person should also be the first one to get the maps.

Dune 17-Jan-20 11:53 AM

My my, would we be seeing gCTF games over other maps than ctf5? :p

jxsl13 17-Jan-20 11:54 AM

would be nice

ctf5 is getting boring.

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Sneak 17-Jan-20 12:03 PM

I suggested your idea to the comm @jxsl13 thanks

jxsl13 17-Jan-20 12:06 PM

I think that makes the process a little bit fairer

Cuube 17-Jan-20 12:07 PM

Joined the server.

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Sneak 17-Jan-20 12:07 PM

Daddy’s here

Cuube 17-Jan-20 12:11 PM

✋

durrtypurrp 17-Jan-20 01:45 PM

Joined the server.

Schmetterhand 17-Jan-20 04:43 PM

Joined the server.

ShootXen 17-Jan-20 06:51 PM

remove CTF5 as a standard map

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or just remove it

Dune 17-Jan-20 06:54 PM

remember ctf4? yeah

Assa 17-Jan-20 06:54 PM

no

heinrich5991 17-Jan-20 07:13 PM

it's the most played map, in vanilla

Lobok_Maksima 17-Jan-20 11:14 PM

Joined the server.

ShootXen 17-Jan-20 11:19 PM

zcatch, FNG* (edited)

Assa 18-Jan-20 11:08 AM

whoever made the lamps default tileset (prob. @Zatline ) i love you ❤️

Deleted User 18-Jan-20 12:52 PM

Huh?

Zatline 18-Jan-20 02:23 PM

@Assa they were actually drawn by SkizZ

ChillerDragon 18-Jan-20 03:04 PM

@Zatline do you still have contact to SkizZ?

Zatline 18-Jan-20 03:05 PM

of course man SkizZ is my bro (edited)

ChillerDragon 18-Jan-20 03:05 PM

Nice when new tw montage? :p

Zatline 18-Jan-20 03:06 PM

haha

good question

ChillerDragon 18-Jan-20 03:10 PM

Or even battlefield

The channel i know has no upload since years

Zatline 18-Jan-20 03:14 PM

becouse we closed the team, or more specific merged with a team into a new team that we didn't want to be part of

we ain't playing BF no more either (edited)

ChillerDragon 18-Jan-20 03:17 PM

Time to return to the best game huh?

We played ur catch map lately

Souly 18-Jan-20 07:16 PM

woah

#announcements channel

nice

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Souly 18-Jan-20 10:36 PM

we need bot channel

jxsl13 18-Jan-20 11:16 PM

irc has an irc bot (edited)

[KFH]Yek. 18-Jan-20 11:33 PM

Joined the server.

Noob 19-Jan-20 12:37 AM

Joined the server.

Skayland 19-Jan-20 05:46 AM

Did that dude actually say "remove ctf5"? What? Are you crazy?

디Kyoko 19-Jan-20 11:17 AM

Joined the server.

Iman 19-Jan-20 11:24 AM

some ppl say "remove dyn" so "remove ctf5" seems nothing in comparison :P

Assa 19-Jan-20 11:54 AM

i have less of a problem to remove ctf5, because of the mapping contest

Schmetterhand 19-Jan-20 11:54 AM

… given that something equally likeable will come out of the contest

Assa 19-Jan-20 11:55 AM

the contest is until March

and i have already seen likable maps

Schmetterhand 19-Jan-20 11:56 AM

alright I'm excited to see those maps ^^

Pados 19-Jan-20 01:19 PM

Joined the server.

heinrich5991 19-Jan-20 11:30 PM

@Dune what do you think about getting the non-christmas logo back?

FerZ 19-Jan-20 11:30 PM

Pados \o/

Dune 19-Jan-20 11:30 PM

@heinrich5991 I was trying to find it yesterday actually

and hopefully there's another one on the works

FerZ 19-Jan-20 11:30 PM

What about a new year logo

Dune 19-Jan-20 11:31 PM

What does that look like, a drunk tee?

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FerZ 19-Jan-20 11:31 PM

Exactly

with some fireworks

xD

heinrich5991 19-Jan-20 11:45 PM

ty @Dune

ChillerDragon 19-Jan-20 11:58 PM

oh and can we get a non winter menu theme again? hehe

Dune 20-Jan-20 12:00 AM

you know you can pick those in the main menu settings?

ChillerDragon 20-Jan-20 12:00 AM

yea nobody does that

Dune 20-Jan-20 12:00 AM

then I'd assume they enjoy winter

ChillerDragon 20-Jan-20 12:00 AM

id assume defaults are a strong thing

Dune 20-Jan-20 12:01 AM

well it's still winter

ChillerDragon 20-Jan-20 12:03 AM

well lets see if there is still winter when the next release comes

Dune 20-Jan-20 12:06 AM

probably rather depends if we find someone motivated to make a new one

we actually had two people come up with the same theme idea for 0.7.4

ChillerDragon 20-Jan-20 12:10 AM

xd

we could also reset to jungle theme

Dune 20-Jan-20 12:10 AM

it's fairly overloaded though

a gerdoe 20-Jan-20 04:24 PM

where is our server avatar

ShootXen 20-Jan-20 04:40 PM

I would suggest something with flowers now

and for summer sunshine?

Trafalgar Law 20-Jan-20 04:40 PM

? XD

Dune 20-Jan-20 04:52 PM

if only we had an artist to do those things!

jxsl13 20-Jan-20 05:01 PM

A tee with a flower in its hair.

Deleted User 20-Jan-20 05:02 PM

ctf5 theme

a gerdoe 20-Jan-20 06:52 PM

like this?

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a gerdoe 20-Jan-20 07:03 PM

ShootXen 20-Jan-20 07:15 PM

we need animation

now

Assa 20-Jan-20 07:47 PM

make flower rotate :3

PR to add flower as decoration

Arseniy Zarche 20-Jan-20 08:54 PM

hi

i'm not sure it's perfect description how to do hammerfly

but just try to see

looks sweet

oh

https://youtu.be/m9wyX0njHEs

Arseniy Zarche

Teeworlds - основы DDRace

Спустя огромное количество времени я выпустил ролик по основам DDRace. Чтобы ты знал, DDRace расшифровывается как Dummy Drag Race - всё основано на... драге, а что ест...

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jxsl13 21-Jan-20 10:33 AM

cool video, nice quality.

even explaining weak and strong hook :0

Souly 21-Jan-20 11:23 AM

@Arseniy Zarche send your gameskin pls

Deleted User 21-Jan-20 12:56 PM

Joined the server.

Hi

Guys pls help me

Souly 21-Jan-20 01:15 PM

@Deleted User with what?

Deleted User 21-Jan-20 01:26 PM

@Souly Dou you have +DDrace Source?

Souly 21-Jan-20 01:28 PM

+DDrace or DDrace?

Deleted User 21-Jan-20 01:30 PM

+DDrace

Souly 21-Jan-20 01:46 PM

sadly no

Deleted User 21-Jan-20 01:48 PM

oK

[KFH]Yek. 21-Jan-20 03:02 PM

@Deleted User I have the executable in Windows

Deleted User 21-Jan-20 03:19 PM

@[KFH]Yek. Source ?

windows?

[KFH]Yek. 21-Jan-20 03:32 PM

@Deleted User I don't have the source only the compiled

https://mega.nz/#!kA9xVYLC!9Gf0kV97A9zTn42kwYi_0ilzM1rumxH7FSzoO3hx3J8

MEGA

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Deleted User 21-Jan-20 04:51 PM

@[KFH]Yek. I Need Source

[KFH]Yek. 21-Jan-20 05:01 PM

F

Deleted User 21-Jan-20 05:10 PM

@[KFH]Yek. How to compile ddnet source with cmake?

windows source

[KFH]Yek. 21-Jan-20 05:12 PM

@Deleted User Idk I only compile in linux

Deleted User 21-Jan-20 05:13 PM

@[KFH]Yek. Dou You have source block ?

ChillerDragon 21-Jan-20 05:22 PM

@Deleted User this also works for ddnet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsoGOfBqPns (edited)

Prudrugtiq

Compiling teeworlds 0.7 windows (Visual Studio)

Compiling on linux: https://youtu.be/4So7peTANXw Compiling on macOS: https://youtu.be/6AdTQO1ttzc Tools installed in the video: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/de/vs/community/ https://www.python.org/downloads/ https://git-scm.com/downloads Additional info on github and ...

[KFH]Yek. 21-Jan-20 05:26 PM

u just need to choose the block maps u want

Good tutorial

Deleted User 21-Jan-20 05:29 PM

i need block source

victorhd2019 21-Jan-20 05:57 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 21-Jan-20 06:53 PM

look up google's block sources

i had his source before os reinstalling

klenha 21-Jan-20 08:27 PM

wtf

jxsl13 21-Jan-20 09:32 PM

he speaks so fast

I watched the 2019 recap again

and I saw Stechus Kaktus

god Stechus Kaktus

ChillerDragon 21-Jan-20 09:32 PM

I will host tw servers for 1 month. First 3 are free so feel free to order one today o.O

jxsl13 21-Jan-20 09:33 PM

gib mmo mod

xD

ChillerDragon 21-Jan-20 09:33 PM

?

send src

jxsl13 21-Jan-20 09:35 PM

don't have

then give it to some south american players, as there seems to be lately an increase of them. and europe seems to have enough of these servers ._.

ShootXen 21-Jan-20 11:32 PM

gcc is a b*tch

worstwish 21-Jan-20 11:49 PM

https://csaccs.com/u/93Lq.png

chillerdragon is next level

ShootXen 21-Jan-20 11:50 PM

does someone have the vanilla discord?

worstwish 21-Jan-20 11:50 PM

https://discord.gg/uPFPH8

jxsl13 22-Jan-20 01:53 AM

Chilli is just a lonely dude

Skayland 22-Jan-20 03:52 AM

Poor chilli

a gerdoe 22-Jan-20 05:59 AM

oh chilli

jxsl13 22-Jan-20 09:37 AM

❤️ Chilli :D

Assa 22-Jan-20 05:30 PM

@ChillerDragon pls dn't jump we ❤️ u

Anichan 22-Jan-20 05:37 PM

Joined the server.

FerZ 22-Jan-20 05:40 PM

F

n000b 22-Jan-20 05:48 PM

Chiller is best in binding 0.6 & 0.7 together

ShootXen 22-Jan-20 05:54 PM

kinda surprised with that

fng wont be popular on 0.7

Tonixe 22-Jan-20 06:36 PM

How did you get those gametype icons? @ShootXen (edited)

jxsl13 22-Jan-20 06:43 PM

you can create them and put them into that one folder there you can find the other icons. it needs to be 64x64 pixels and have the same name, I think not case sensitive, as tue mod. like zcatch.png or fng.png

ShootXen 22-Jan-20 06:50 PM

Using Gamerclient by dune

he has that by default in his client

btw. it seems that newer players on 0.6 are quite confussed with versions

he told me that 0.6 was DDNet and 0.7 was Teeworlds

ChillerDragon 22-Jan-20 06:53 PM

told me that 0.6 was DDNet and 0.7 was Teeworlds

classic.

even older players use these terms.

@ShootXen how did you get so many players on ur fng server? :/ do people really hate solofng or what did i do wrong in the last months while advertising my server

ShootXen 22-Jan-20 06:58 PM

well as I said. normal FNG was always popular

Solo was only played when a group of others decided to play it

ChillerDragon 22-Jan-20 07:02 PM

hm :/

i hate that all my fav things are nichê in nichê

forever alone

jxsl13 22-Jan-20 07:16 PM

I like solofng

but I also like zCatch

solofng is kind of like zCatch

but more perfect for lasers.

but yeah, your advertising strategies, especially for Zillywoods seem to be the worst of its kind. Dunno if it was you, but getting pm spammed on ddrace servers with zillywoods ads is basically worse than having no advertisement at all.

a gerdoe 22-Jan-20 07:23 PM

eh

jxsl13 22-Jan-20 07:25 PM

maybe some sicko fan, who knows, but seemingly they don't know how to do proper advertising...

a gerdoe 22-Jan-20 07:25 PM

tournaments on zw srvers...

or something likely

jxsl13 22-Jan-20 07:33 PM

i hate that all my fav things are nichê in nichê maybe you are just a living meme ._.

a gerdoe 22-Jan-20 08:12 PM

@ChillerDragon nice xD

jxsl13 22-Jan-20 09:18 PM

I think the teeworlds discord needs a nickname-appreciation-channel

great nicks out there

Souly 22-Jan-20 11:35 PM

this server needs more channels

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 01:15 AM

It was me @jxsl13 and I fixed the spam :/ it remembers who already got a message now

It should be a gentile note

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 10:25 AM

annoying as hell. and basically telling me to never use zillywoods

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 01:38 PM

Hm

I hoped I am annoying and not the client

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 01:39 PM

such advertising has the exact opposite effect of what you expect.

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 01:40 PM

I hoped I made it gentle and human like enough :/

But I guess I’m turning it off then

I wanted to avoid that the few people who try 0.7 coming from 0.6 do rage quit because of missing client features

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 01:52 PM

all I hear is people whining about anti-ping. not understandable what's the big deal there compared to vanilla.

it's far from human like. you instantly see that it's a copy paste text.

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 01:53 PM

Difficult to advertise a client in one message

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 01:53 PM

you gotta play yourself and tell people in a contextual way that there is this client and that it might fit their needs

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 01:53 PM

Yikes

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 01:53 PM

if they are e.g. missing stuff.

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 01:53 PM

I do not have the time for that

Antiping is a big 0.6 reason

Yea someone really has to help me there

Dune 23-Jan-20 01:54 PM

My two cents: it is probably fine to advertise a ddrace client in a ddrace server

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 01:55 PM

maybe tell people that it's a client targeted at ddrace, my mind that doesn't remember spam, tells me that it was a rather generalized text written (edited)

Dune 23-Jan-20 01:56 PM

This comes off a bit aggressive, you might want to just block the bot

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 01:56 PM

@Dune it does not write more than 1 message to a user

And it does tell it’s ddrace on ddrace servers

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 01:57 PM

being spammed online with ads is maybe the result of me having a rather negative opinion about such things.

Dune 23-Jan-20 01:57 PM

Yeah I was talking to jxsl13

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 01:57 PM

There is no spam

Unless it’s broken

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 01:58 PM

I consider whispers already intruding into my private sphere and if it's whispering + advertising.

and multiple times at that, dunno like once every few minutes, it's getting annoying

One has to deal with ads all ober the place online already

ober

over

and them. eing targeted by ads ingame.

being

Dune 23-Jan-20 01:59 PM

Then you are particularly sensitive and it would be nice to just block the bot and move on instead of making a huge public mess

Chiller said it only sends it once now

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:00 PM

Well, if nothing is said, nothing would have been done.

It kinda feels like this game is being commercialized to some point.

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 02:10 PM

the thing is do not want to make profit i actually want to improve the users expirience

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:11 PM

I'm just giving feedback.

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 02:11 PM

im just saying ur feedback seems like a attack with wrong assumptions

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:13 PM

That's the feeling I get when being annoyed via whisper. Maybe other people like being kind of sent ads via whisper every few minutes.

Trafalgar Law 23-Jan-20 02:13 PM

Bro thats 1 msg

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:13 PM

wuy not send it not via whisper

and in chat once every few minutes.

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 02:14 PM

becuase that would annoy everybody at once and multiple times

id rather go for single targeted messages to non zillywoods users only once

but im now deactivating the bot anyways

thanks for your feedback

i do not want to cause negative results

Trafalgar Law 23-Jan-20 02:15 PM

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:15 PM

I'd much rather prefer to ask people to advertise for it if they like the client

that's more personal and they(people already using the client) can actually help with getting the clients setup as they(people not using the client) want (edited)

Dune 23-Jan-20 02:18 PM

there is a difference between giving feedback and this: the tone

@MrCosmo https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=123957 for the gametype icons sketches

1

just got reminded there is an alternative zCatch icon there btw

should have used that

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:19 PM

maybe emotionally loaded, as I was not a little bit annoyed, but heavily annoyed by that. (edited)

Dune 23-Jan-20 02:20 PM

If you spend more time discouraging content creators than making content, you are a net negative contribution to teeworlds

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:20 PM

And if I feel that way, maybe other people might feel that way as well, guess by far not everybody. (edited)

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 02:20 PM

thats fair

and i do not want to annoy people

im here to support the update

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:21 PM

I don't want to discourage making good and feature rich clients at all.

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 02:22 PM

yea i suck at that tho

so my plan is to make basic features and keep users there with these features so devs switch fro 0.6 to 0.7 and follow the users

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:23 PM

The transition will happen in any case, if 0.6 people want it or not.

same as 0.5 to 0.6 (edited)

Dune 23-Jan-20 02:23 PM

that's not the right mindset

people can also stop playing Teeworlds if they're not happy with it

please reconsider your ways of giving negative feedback to content creators, they are precious

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:24 PM

that's true

but I also see people from 0.5 starting to play 0.7 again. (edited)

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 02:29 PM

idk that was before my time. how long did the update of the majority of the playerbase took from 0.5 to 0.6?

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 02:30 PM

Dunno, a lot of instagib players stayed on 0.5 for a long time

cannot say how long that is, at least felt like a long time.

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 02:33 PM

hm

Dune 23-Jan-20 02:53 PM

@ChillerDragon I found this archive in my files https://puu.sh/F19aK/9986648645.png

dated 4 months after 0.6.0

of course, very different context

even if 0.7 was flawless, which it is not, there would be a lot of incentive to play on 0.6 content

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 03:01 PM

yes and reasons to never update to 0.7 like no name changing and weird duplicated names etc

Ryozuki 23-Jan-20 03:22 PM

@ChillerDragon you should do whathever you want on ur server

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 03:23 PM

oh thats the thing

it was not mine :p

it was highly illegal bot ad on other servers without asking

Ryozuki 23-Jan-20 03:25 PM

ah

Trafalgar Law 23-Jan-20 03:59 PM

For me was it okay :/ (edited)

I'm supporting his client to 100%

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 04:05 PM

i did not ask u tho nor did i ask fokkonaut or teeserver dudes

fokkonaut 23-Jan-20 04:09 PM

?

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 04:19 PM

for permission on using the bot on these servers

redix 23-Jan-20 05:33 PM

@ChillerDragon just allow votes on your server -.-

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:35 PM

i did

well it vetos no but i get a discord ping on every vote @redix

do you want rcon @redix ?

redix 23-Jan-20 05:36 PM

well i'm not online that often... just noticed the first obvious bot in 0.7 =\

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:37 PM

the more inactive mods the better

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 05:44 PM

:monkaS:

I wonder if anyone with nitro actually sees some emote there

Ryozuki 23-Jan-20 05:45 PM

Doesnt work like that

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 05:45 PM

when I write this and send it, the discord actually tries to show me the emote, but says, dude, you don't have nitro, so no image for you

ok :'c

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:47 PM

only leet haxx0rs with custom discord clients see something

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 05:47 PM

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:47 PM

do u guys use vanilla discord?

normies xd

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 05:48 PM

are there any custom clients out there? man, the macOS client is fine, other than it crashing when I close it. but the android client is literally garbage :c

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:48 PM

i use cordless

its open source and runs in terminal

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 05:48 PM

:monkaS:

send screenshot pls

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:49 PM

no fishy discord magic in background

xd

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 05:49 PM

so you not a leet haxx0r :c

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:49 PM

would be possible tho

i am certanly not

xd

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 05:49 PM

x)

was expecting nice emotes

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:49 PM

im sure its possible

Dune 23-Jan-20 05:50 PM

No announcements?

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:50 PM

idk what my terminal can display

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 05:50 PM

ah, well some terminals allow for drawing images

others utf-8 emotes only

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 05:51 PM

i doubt monkaS made it in utf-8 emotes xd

jxsl13 23-Jan-20 05:52 PM

sadly not

Tonixe 23-Jan-20 06:09 PM

Hi, I have a little problem concerning the server list. When I start up my client I can see the simply zcatch server, but when I hit refresh it dissapears. Restarting the client doesnt work always, but sometimes it does. Is there any way I can check for packet loss or something?

Dune 23-Jan-20 06:11 PM

What if you refregh twice? What if you favorite it?

Tonixe 23-Jan-20 06:37 PM

Nope doesnt work, even restarting pc doesnt help (edited)

Chillord 23-Jan-20 06:50 PM

Joined the server.

Assa 23-Jan-20 09:52 PM

does anyone have candles mapres?

ChillerDragon 23-Jan-20 09:56 PM

slap the mapres extractor from ddnet on heinrichs map database and then search for candle xd

colin 24-Jan-20 09:57 AM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 24-Jan-20 02:20 PM

My F-DDrace modification is now open source! https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=123962#p123962

2

Trafalgar Law 24-Jan-20 02:22 PM

jxsl13 24-Jan-20 02:25 PM

what happened :D

fokkonaut 24-Jan-20 02:28 PM

Just felt like

Now you have some code to review :P haha

jxsl13 24-Jan-20 02:39 PM

:'c got a working windows build, you lucky guy

fokkonaut 24-Jan-20 02:41 PM

What do you mean? xd

jxsl13 24-Jan-20 02:43 PM

that you have a working windows build

Dune 24-Jan-20 02:43 PM

time to fork it and call it D-DDRace! :D

fokkonaut 24-Jan-20 02:43 PM

Of course I have working win build, I develop on Windows yikes

jxsl13 24-Jan-20 02:44 PM

-> F -> E -> D -> C

fokkonaut 24-Jan-20 02:44 PM

xd

jxsl13 24-Jan-20 02:45 PM

I will call mine J-DDRace

jk, I don't care much about ddrace

might take a look at how you managed some stuff, that's all

fokkonaut 24-Jan-20 02:46 PM

Which for example? :)

jxsl13 24-Jan-20 02:46 PM

I didn't play on your server enough to know much of the stuff there, but I guess might take a look at voting system

or message of the day, I think you did something there

fokkonaut 24-Jan-20 02:46 PM

Ah yea

If you need something, you can simply ping me :)

jxsl13 24-Jan-20 02:47 PM

sure

fokkonaut 24-Jan-20 02:47 PM

:)

Dune 24-Jan-20 02:57 PM

anyone feels like maintaining a page of 0.7 modifications?

jxsl13 24-Jan-20 03:10 PM

might as well do a channel in discord with all links same as links with all community discords

Ryozuki 24-Jan-20 03:22 PM

@Dune u mean a website?

jxsl13 24-Jan-20 03:25 PM

he most likely means a forum thread

Dune 24-Jan-20 03:26 PM

yes jxsl13

Schmetterhand 24-Jan-20 04:50 PM

@ChillerDragon regarding your console-based discord client: you can also do that via https://www.brow.sh/

Browsh

it will even render graphics

Dune 24-Jan-20 04:50 PM

did @ChillerDragon handcraft it?

Schmetterhand 24-Jan-20 04:51 PM

no, it's apparently called "cordless", an open source discord client (edited)

Dune 24-Jan-20 04:51 PM

ah, I see

Deleted User 24-Jan-20 11:12 PM

Joined the server.

REBEL 25-Jan-20 12:59 AM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 02:45 AM

man, don't know whether those messages were deleted or I'm getting crazy ._.

heinrich5991 25-Jan-20 02:45 AM

@jxsl13 deleted because hoax

sorry

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 02:46 AM

ok

ShootXen 25-Jan-20 03:19 AM

insane*

ChillerDragon 25-Jan-20 03:46 AM

At least every fifth message of @heinrich5991 contains a word I have to look up

Skayland 25-Jan-20 09:53 AM

LOL

Same here

visitOP 25-Jan-20 02:04 PM

Joined the server.

hey

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 02:14 PM

hey meme bro

a gerdoe 25-Jan-20 03:14 PM

hey vizit

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 03:16 PM

!gerdoe

hm, not chat command

:c

a gerdoe 25-Jan-20 03:17 PM

:>

a gerdoe 25-Jan-20 03:26 PM

maybe in - white out - black

mumix 25-Jan-20 07:44 PM

Joined the server.

Trafalgar Law 25-Jan-20 08:43 PM

Only english @mumix

read #rules

mumix 25-Jan-20 08:43 PM

my english very bad

i have lag in vanila server but v-synh is off... ping 40-60 .. fps 500.. why i latter in 1 sec

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 08:45 PM

anti ping feature of ddnet might be the one that helps you with your lags

mumix 25-Jan-20 08:45 PM

where antiping?

on 7 teeworld

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 08:46 PM

there is no such feature yet on 0.7 teeworlds. if your ping "jumps" from 40-60 that may be the cause of your lags.

mumix 25-Jan-20 08:47 PM

I feel like I'm a second behind everyone else.. and bullets fly out late

if v-synh on .. i have very very big lags

why?

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 08:48 PM

that depends on your ping and on your distance to the server. second question, I do not know.

mumix 25-Jan-20 08:49 PM

where is it located vanila?

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 08:50 PM

wherever the server hoster rents his server..

most servers are located in germany or france or other countries in central europe

Dune 25-Jan-20 08:52 PM

@mumix sounds like bad internet. can you check the graphs in ctrl+shift+d+g?

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 08:52 PM

one should not play teeworlds on a cellular network, that is for sure .-.

Dune 25-Jan-20 08:53 PM

3g works fine for me

mumix 25-Jan-20 08:53 PM

how screenshot in tee?

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 08:53 PM

f10

or windows screenshot features

mumix 25-Jan-20 08:56 PM

no not work print screen

Dune 25-Jan-20 08:56 PM

f10

then you'll have to find your image in %APPDATA% (use config_directory.bat to open the folder)

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 08:57 PM

Alt + Print Screen?

Dune 25-Jan-20 08:58 PM

probably only works with fullscreen off

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 08:58 PM

Windows key + Print Screen key

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/8-ways-you-can-take-screenshots-in-windows-10/

xD

Dune 25-Jan-20 08:58 PM

doesn't always work

mumix 25-Jan-20 08:59 PM

no is not capture tee/ captured other back window

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 08:59 PM

f10

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:01 PM

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 09:01 PM

ingame f10 -> close game -> windows key -> write %appdata% -> search for Teworlds folder-> search for screenshot

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:01 PM

66ms i latter?

I'm late for 66ms?

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:02 PM

66 is fine

spîkes are not

do the lag correspond to the red spikes on the right?

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 09:04 PM

do you lag when that red spike is visible

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:05 PM

у меня нет как бы лагов.. я постоянно отпаздываю от всех.. как будто пинг не 60 , а 600

I don't have any lags.. I'm always late for everyone.. as if the ping is not 60 , but 600

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:07 PM

hmm

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:07 PM

if I turn on vertical sync, even the mouse starts to be late when I move it.. this was not the case on teeworlds 6

Iman 25-Jan-20 09:08 PM

uncap fps ?

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:08 PM

thats definitely a network issue

your fps are fine

are you on your home network?

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:08 PM

yes

100 mb

Ответ от 149.202.127.134: число байт=32 время=45мс TTL=51 Ответ от 149.202.127.134: число байт=32 время=45мс TTL=51 Ответ от 149.202.127.134: число байт=32 время=45мс TTL=51 Ответ от 149.202.127.134: число байт=32 время=45мс TTL=51

its vanila server

stable 45 ms . it's good

oh ok i go testen on other server. not vanila

some shit

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:18 PM

all servers are bad?

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:19 PM

I can't check servers where there's no one.. where my ping is minimal.. if you can come and play with me I'll be grateful

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:20 PM

surely if you shoot you can see the delay?

or just go to other non-empty servers, there is more than one

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:21 PM

i connect riftbit dm1

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:29 PM

OK thanks. vanilla is not my option.

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:29 PM

it's not the gametype, it's just that server

but it's still strange, @ChillerDragon's server is usually stable for everyone

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:32 PM

I used to play vanilla on net, it was normal.. somewhere a year ago, he started lagging a lot for me. and for 0.7, too.. perhaps this happened as 0.7 tee appeared

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:32 PM

because of security fixes, 0.7 packets are bigger

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:32 PM

maybe my Internet connection doesn't like this server.

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:32 PM

so I think connection stability is more sensitive on 0.7

I lose more packets on 0.7

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:33 PM

but other servers are fine

even if there is a ping on another server, this is good for me. namely, the vanilla is lagging badly

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:34 PM

ping is not a great indicator

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:34 PM

нуз

yep

ChillerDragon 25-Jan-20 09:34 PM

:/

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:36 PM

now it is clear that it still depends on the server

it's a shame that everyone is playing vanilla

bb

Dune 25-Jan-20 09:37 PM

bb

(there are some ~100 players on though, not just vanilla)

mumix 25-Jan-20 09:38 PM

and in ddnet will not leave anyone

ctf

Assa 25-Jan-20 09:47 PM

hmm, teeworlds needs some strategy games

thinking of Tee Fight Tactics

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 09:48 PM

one does not simply fight the Tees, one has to love them!

Skayland 25-Jan-20 09:48 PM

^

Assa 25-Jan-20 09:49 PM

you don't fight the Tees, the Tees fight for you

in case you don't know google Team Fight Tactics

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 09:50 PM

dunno :c

Iman 25-Jan-20 11:50 PM

how does teecomp teams skins customization from dune's gamer client works ? it don't seems to work for me

can i find some info somewhere ?

Dune 25-Jan-20 11:54 PM

@Iman you figured how to set different colors?

Iman 25-Jan-20 11:54 PM

ooooooooooo

i need to configure the colors too

XD

ok thanks

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 11:55 PM

does the latest gamer not support chat command ?

Iman 25-Jan-20 11:55 PM

and btw how can i bind two different things on the same input ?

Dune 25-Jan-20 11:55 PM

you can't

@jxsl13 it's 0.7.4, so it should

Iman 25-Jan-20 11:56 PM

lol thx

Dune 25-Jan-20 11:56 PM

well you can with ; (edited)

sorry :)

bind x say hi; say bye

jxsl13 25-Jan-20 11:56 PM

.: maybe forgot to restart the servers ..

Iman 25-Jan-20 11:57 PM

ok thx

i didn't get the joke ;-;

Souly 26-Jan-20 12:07 AM

woah

#rules channel

nice

jxsl13 26-Jan-20 12:09 AM

putting down others or their work.

grumpy

Iman 26-Jan-20 12:32 AM

using the ; like u said make x say hi but it doesn't say bye, i just say bye when i press enter

in the console

after i typed bind x say hi; say bye

Dune 26-Jan-20 12:55 AM

bind x "say hi; say bye"

fokkonaut 26-Jan-20 09:48 AM

of course it doesnt say hi, server has a delay between chat messages

Iman 26-Jan-20 10:38 AM

thanks a lot Dune !

Souly 26-Jan-20 11:14 AM

im almost sure that console would not say both messages even without the delay

Iman 26-Jan-20 11:21 AM

well it works on some servs :)

ChillerDragon 26-Jan-20 11:26 AM

it would @Souly see non delay messages like

rcon say foo;rcon say bar say_self foo;say_self bar

or echo and broadcast

Dune 26-Jan-20 11:35 AM

say_self isnt in 074, try echo

Chilli.* 26-Jan-20 12:00 PM

$hours

rdr 26-Jan-20 01:07 PM

hi

help me?

Dune 26-Jan-20 01:52 PM

with?

Souly 26-Jan-20 04:51 PM

I made this marking for 0.7 save it as pinetree in tw>data>skins>marking

ChillerDragon 26-Jan-20 04:55 PM

can i publish this in my database @Souly ?

Souly 26-Jan-20 04:55 PM

yes

ChillerDragon 26-Jan-20 04:55 PM

nice artist name is "Souly" ?

Souly 26-Jan-20 04:55 PM

im no artist

i cant draw anything XD

ChillerDragon 26-Jan-20 04:56 PM

well who made it then?

Souly 26-Jan-20 04:56 PM

i mean, i made it but its just really simple

i would never call myself artist

ChillerDragon 26-Jan-20 04:56 PM

i did

so is the name "Souly" ok? (edited)

Souly 26-Jan-20 04:57 PM

yes

could you send link to that database?

ChillerDragon 26-Jan-20 04:57 PM

any notes or tags?

https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/

TeeworldsDB

TeeworldsDB has 9 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

Dune 26-Jan-20 04:57 PM

is that linked to https://teeskins.de/ ?

Teeworlds Skins, Mapres, Gameskins, Emoticons, Particles, Cursors,...

Download & Share: Teeworlds Skins 0.6 & 0.7, Assets, Tools ▷ +2000 Teeworlds Graphics ✓ Biggest Teeworlds Skins Collection ✓ Join Now ✓

ChillerDragon 26-Jan-20 04:58 PM

nope (edited)

we work idependently

but we sometimes steal from each other

"professional syncing"

Dune 26-Jan-20 04:59 PM

The lack of container for 0.7 skins sucks

ChillerDragon 26-Jan-20 05:02 PM

@Souly https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/skins/commit/bb887835808baec69d4e7c88314e68fa35227e7d

Add pinetree marking by Souly · TeeworldsDB/skins@bb88783

Dune 26-Jan-20 05:03 PM

themes when :)

Souly 26-Jan-20 05:04 PM

hmm

i remember posting 1 theme

would be cool to have database for that

Dune 26-Jan-20 05:07 PM

it would be nice to downscale the image of that theme, it takes so long to load

Souly 26-Jan-20 05:08 PM

ye ik

but i like that high resolution

i remeber downscaling it a bit so its not that hard to load

Deleted User 26-Jan-20 05:47 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 26-Jan-20 05:56 PM

@Deleted User

Deleted User 26-Jan-20 07:33 PM

@Deleted User

Skayland 26-Jan-20 09:44 PM

How is it hard to load if the game consumes nearly no resources? I never felt any delay in load while using themes

Or anything

Dune 26-Jan-20 10:07 PM

@Skayland because it's a very heavy map that is made of a single high resolution image, that is not the intended use of maps

Skayland 26-Jan-20 10:08 PM

You mean the mountain theme with blue and purple colours?

Dune 26-Jan-20 10:08 PM

Probably that, yes

Skayland 26-Jan-20 10:08 PM

Well thats the theme i use

I even added movement to it and made it bigger res bc it was a bit LQ

Souly 27-Jan-20 12:35 PM

i was also sending this theme

the river one

it was originally 4k i think

but i resized it a bit

still takes some time load

Dune 27-Jan-20 01:31 PM

FHD sounds reasonable

ChillerDragon 27-Jan-20 01:41 PM

4K sounds future proof. I switched to 4K years ago

Well ok I switched back to FHD on laptops but ..

We should maybe improve image loading speed. My editor feeezes one second when I preview 4K mapres

Souly 27-Jan-20 02:03 PM

i also noticed that quads resizing is glitchy with high res images

in editor

redix 27-Jan-20 02:05 PM

What about a threaded resources loading systeme? Would also fix some of the issues listed here: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2403

Improve loading and the loading screen · Issue #2403 · teeworlds...

Loading is already pretty fast on my machine, but most time is spent before the loading screen is shown. To give some rough numbers of how it feels, maybe 0.3 seconds are only the console window, t...

Dune 27-Jan-20 02:27 PM

Already does it for sounds

redix 27-Jan-20 02:42 PM

Yeah but this is rather basic stuff. matricks once started writing a system that automatically spreads the resources loading across multiple threads. This also allows loading resources without stalling the game loop. His code also allowed downloading resources from the gameserver and http (+caching). That isn't really necessary right now but the threading stuff might be useful

Dune 27-Jan-20 02:42 PM

ressys is a bit overkill :D

redix 27-Jan-20 02:44 PM

True

but a few things might be useful

Doing file io in the gameloop isn't really nice

heinrich5991 27-Jan-20 02:48 PM

we're not doing IO in the game loop, are we?

redix 27-Jan-20 02:51 PM

Well at least the mapres preview loading happens in the main thread and as chiller said it can freeze the game. I didn't look at the code yet but opening some menu pages also freezes the game for a short time

LordSk 27-Jan-20 02:51 PM

Because of font loading I believe

heinrich5991 27-Jan-20 02:53 PM

oh

redix 27-Jan-20 02:54 PM

I think most glyphs are loaded when the server browser is opened. But yeah... Maybe it's still missing some

LordSk 27-Jan-20 03:00 PM

When I directly loaded into a server, the game would freeze whenever the "Warning: not enough players" text would pop up, so I'm guessing the menu thing is similar.

But an async resource manager that load/unloads data onto RAM and the GPU on demand would be great @redix. Not sure how easy it is to integrate in the current code base though.

redix 27-Jan-20 03:04 PM

Huh never noticed that =/ by default the font textures cannot store all ASCII chars. It just grows when all chars are used within a second

Would definitely be some work...

Dune 27-Jan-20 03:15 PM

Might explain why ./teeworlds "connect ." can be so laggy

ChillerDragon 27-Jan-20 03:22 PM

connect . lol

im sure connect localhost is faster

Dune 27-Jan-20 06:47 PM

Should be the same :)

a gerdoe 27-Jan-20 07:42 PM

is this oy means oyster? (edited)

1

ChillerDragon 27-Jan-20 07:56 PM

xd

n000b 27-Jan-20 10:29 PM

@a gerdoe ObviouslY, what else would it mean.

Thanks for keeping TW alive oy

ChillerDragon 27-Jan-20 10:34 PM

@n000b oy will never recieve this message xd

he only hangs in bridge sometimes

a gerdoe 28-Jan-20 05:11 AM

because professionals have standarts

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jxsl13 28-Jan-20 06:23 AM

this is gold

jxsl13 28-Jan-20 08:50 AM

It's actually all content creators keeping the game alive :)

3

Pasem) 28-Jan-20 10:50 AM

Joined the server.

Sonix 28-Jan-20 12:56 PM

@Oblikumquat love ya

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=123969#p123969

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Great work as always

Dune 28-Jan-20 01:08 PM

Great-looking tileset

Pasem) 28-Jan-20 01:10 PM

n000b 28-Jan-20 01:26 PM

@jxsl13 true, but without him. Like last year. We can't do anything

Dune 28-Jan-20 01:28 PM

Oy was pretty active last year

Trafalgar Law 28-Jan-20 01:28 PM

Last year

But we need him this year

n000b 28-Jan-20 01:29 PM

@Dune i mean the start of 2019 he wasn't active yet

Or goes the time faster than i can keep up with

Dune 28-Jan-20 01:30 PM

0.7.2 was for christmas 2018!

n000b 28-Jan-20 01:51 PM

Ah time goes faster then

Well i meant the period between 0.6 and 0.7

Dune 28-Jan-20 01:54 PM

Yeah, I understand. The big hole was between 2015 and late 2018. Most of the 0.7 work (UI revamp etc.) was done before 2015

I think Landil's departure changed a lot of things and the lack of artists was the main deadlock

Dune 28-Jan-20 05:47 PM

Actually, some tilesets we really lack are ones that look like they could be hooked through

It sounds difficult to design though, maybe slightly transparent clouds?

Assa 28-Jan-20 07:19 PM

what about tiles that look like you can shoot through? #modidea

Dune 28-Jan-20 07:39 PM

hookthroughs are usually shoothroughs as well

I believe they are generally more elegant than unhookable, because they do not completely prevent you from hooking, but make hook less potent (you have less swing range somewhat)

heinrich5991 28-Jan-20 07:42 PM

I think the the bars of the spikes look like hook-but-not-walk-through

Dune 28-Jan-20 07:43 PM

ooh, that's a great point

wiring should work as well

heinrich5991 28-Jan-20 07:44 PM

or perhaps even the weird tiles from the old ictf map

ChillerDragon 28-Jan-20 07:44 PM

ye spikes are great

fly maps best

heinrich5991 28-Jan-20 07:44 PM

don't remember what it was called

no, not fly

Dune 28-Jan-20 07:45 PM

ddnet maps should use more of those

shadow is ambiguous

heinrich5991 28-Jan-20 07:46 PM

ddnet hookthrough blocks projectiles though

Dune 28-Jan-20 07:46 PM

ddnet has projectiles?

ah, grenades

heinrich5991 28-Jan-20 07:46 PM

laser, fake shotgun

Sonix 28-Jan-20 07:57 PM

barbed wire

Iman 28-Jan-20 07:58 PM

barbed wire hurts :o

AkaFad 28-Jan-20 08:22 PM

does someone know who is the creator of Teeworlds ?

Dune 28-Jan-20 08:22 PM

matricks and a couple others, @AkaFad

AkaFad 28-Jan-20 08:22 PM

who are they

Sonix 28-Jan-20 08:37 PM

a bunch of people

a gerdoe 28-Jan-20 08:37 PM

swedish people

nice guus

guys

look up history of teeworlds first-of-all development

a gerdoe 28-Jan-20 08:55 PM

looks nice

heinrich5991 28-Jan-20 08:55 PM

where did you get that?

a gerdoe 28-Jan-20 08:56 PM

https://m.sweclockers.com/forum/trad/316044-teepop-action-puzzle

Teepop (Action Puzzle)

EDIT: Senaste verren hittar ni på http://teepop.net ---------------------------- Teepop Alpha 6 är nu publik. (Gjort av matricks, teetow och redcom) Teepop...

but...

only swedish

ah

heinrich5991 28-Jan-20 08:57 PM

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.sweclockers.com%2Fforum%2Ftrad%2F316044-teepop-action-puzzle

a gerdoe 28-Jan-20 08:57 PM

matricks thought that we will be playing teeworlds without donat = without login/pass

Dune 28-Jan-20 08:57 PM

that is the case

a gerdoe 28-Jan-20 08:58 PM

that idea isnt weird

I like it at all

but now teeworlds is opensource game without commercial things

matricks is a jesus for me now...

no no

matricks, teetow and redcom are the holy trinity

a gerdoe 28-Jan-20 09:09 PM

as i know teeworlds development "fully" started on some seedish conference, isnt it?

not a conference maybe

because then they went to the bbq

a gerdoe 28-Jan-20 09:25 PM

https://sites.google.com/site/nsinreal/biblia-teeworlds real ahahaable

История Teeworlds с древнейших и до наши...

Файл-сервер им. nsinreal

QUEEN 29-Jan-20 01:17 AM

Joined the server.

Professional Retard 29-Jan-20 10:15 AM

Joined the server.

@Tonixe

Tonixe 29-Jan-20 11:44 AM

?

Gamer. 29-Jan-20 04:10 PM

-

fokkonaut 29-Jan-20 05:02 PM

some people around

Dune 29-Jan-20 05:03 PM

can vanilla display that?

fokkonaut 29-Jan-20 05:03 PM

it is vanilla client

Dune 29-Jan-20 05:03 PM

oh ok :)

a gerdoe 29-Jan-20 05:03 PM

hm

fokkonaut 29-Jan-20 05:03 PM

thats why i didnt use scoreboard

a gerdoe 29-Jan-20 05:03 PM

can you show us the statboard?

ah

understand

fokkonaut 29-Jan-20 05:04 PM

a gerdoe 29-Jan-20 05:04 PM

meh

scoreboard is such little

small*

fokkonaut 29-Jan-20 05:05 PM

@Dune btw: when spectating the last player of the list, while there are more than 15 players, the text "and x others" will be highlighted

a gerdoe 29-Jan-20 05:08 PM

open issue fokko

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 05:47 PM

use zillywoods fokko

fokkonaut 29-Jan-20 05:48 PM

u

Assa 29-Jan-20 06:36 PM

does anybody have a white tree mapres? so trees for the bg in white so you can color them yourself

i don't know how to find stuff like this

fokkonaut 29-Jan-20 06:37 PM

only ones i have

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Assa 29-Jan-20 06:38 PM

now this is service

fokkonaut 29-Jan-20 06:39 PM

:)

Schmetterhand 29-Jan-20 07:25 PM

could've done that ourselves with an image manipulation software, I guess?

a gerdoe 29-Jan-20 07:27 PM

photoshop or illustrator or gimp and etc

all graphic software with filters

or something similar

jxsl13 29-Jan-20 07:38 PM

uses cat filter

Assa 29-Jan-20 07:48 PM

it's not exactly what i was searching for

so i will have to do it

but I tend to use the easy route in order to save time

It's way easier to ask in a discord then to gimp this stuff yourself

Schmetterhand 29-Jan-20 07:58 PM

gimp this stuff

have to agree, GIMP can be a PITA to use

Ryozuki 29-Jan-20 07:58 PM

Krita

heinrich5991 29-Jan-20 07:59 PM

@Assa https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+command+to+turn+images+greyscale&t=ffab&ia=web

a gerdoe 29-Jan-20 07:59 PM

@Assa u want it for color correction in tw editor?

do u want it for color correction in tw editor

Schmetterhand 29-Jan-20 08:18 PM

yeah, the linux nerd way: convert -thousandoptionsimagemagick

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 08:20 PM

xd

@heinrich5991 hfgl writing that in python :p

heinrich5991 29-Jan-20 08:22 PM

subprocess.check_call(["convert", "-thousandoptionsimagemagick", input, output])

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 08:25 PM

which is a call to shell

heinrich5991 29-Jan-20 08:25 PM

no

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 08:25 PM

no?

heinrich5991 29-Jan-20 08:25 PM

it's a call to another program

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 08:25 PM

hm

#!/bin/bash python solveeverything.py

:troll: (edited)

heinrich5991 29-Jan-20 08:28 PM

you probably want /usr/bin/env bash btw

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 08:29 PM

why

i dare you if u send a link now

i can ddg my self xd

heinrich5991 29-Jan-20 08:32 PM

then it doesn't depend on where bash is installed

Dune 29-Jan-20 08:32 PM

I always mess up the order of that, so I stuck with bin/bash

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 08:45 PM

hmm so /usr/bin/env is a globally thingy that should be used for all shebangs?

Schmetterhand 29-Jan-20 08:46 PM

#!/bin/bash python solveeverything.py

yeah because you need a shell script to call a python script which is then interpreted by the python interpreter which in turn runs in machine code. I've probably left out some layers…

heinrich5991 29-Jan-20 08:55 PM

@ChillerDragon for all shebangs that aren't at a guaranteed place

/bin/sh and /usr/bin/env are two that I know of

Ryozuki 29-Jan-20 09:06 PM

Why dont add the shebang on the py script directly

a gerdoe 29-Jan-20 09:21 PM

cuz directly adding is gay

Assa 29-Jan-20 10:11 PM

@ChillerDragon you could use jupyter magic too !convert -blub

so you use jupyter to call ipython to call shell

you can call jupyter from shell, too

and at this point you can stack layers endlessly

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 10:15 PM

can someone either explain bash or duckduckgo https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22!+%5B%5B%22+vs+%22%5B%5B+!%22+bash&t=ffab&ia=web

how to search for special characters on duckduckgo?

or what is the difference between if ! [[ false ]] and if [[ ! false ]]

jxsl13 29-Jan-20 10:37 PM

left looks like invalid syntax... not sure, tho

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 10:54 PM

i assume both valid

Dune 29-Jan-20 10:54 PM

@ChillerDragon the test statement between [[ ]] gives an exit code (that can be any integer afaik), and you ! it

both seem valid to me

ChillerDragon 29-Jan-20 10:54 PM

imo second is more readable

i wonder why people do the other at all

Dune 29-Jan-20 10:55 PM

slightly different semantic

with exit codes, true = 0

SNEAKY 30-Jan-20 01:09 AM

Joined the server.

Assa 30-Jan-20 05:57 PM

eww https://steamstat.us/

Steam Status

Displays status of Steam client, Steam store, Steam community, Dota 2, TF2 and CSGO

(Teeworlds is in steam so i can post it here!)

jxsl13 30-Jan-20 06:38 PM

@Trafalgar Law people are sad, cuz aip gores is gone :c

they are hitting me with dead fish

help

Trafalgar Law 30-Jan-20 06:39 PM

oh is it down?

jxsl13 30-Jan-20 06:39 PM

well, I guess ._.

Trafalgar Law 30-Jan-20 06:40 PM

back

Assa 30-Jan-20 06:49 PM

you shouldn't run this map on steam i think

Trafalgar Law 30-Jan-20 06:50 PM

?

Assa 30-Jan-20 06:51 PM

oh is it down?

@Trafalgar Law steam? yes, your map? yes

coincidence? maybe, Nichts ist unmöglich? Toyota

a gerdoe 30-Jan-20 07:42 PM

hotel? trivago.

Yansadd YSD 30-Jan-20 08:00 PM

Joined the server.

egabadd 30-Jan-20 08:01 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 30-Jan-20 09:16 PM

beware of the cat

Trafalgar Law 30-Jan-20 09:16 PM

jxsl13 30-Jan-20 09:44 PM

@Rimso we need you back on zCatch

SLEAZY 31-Jan-20 01:22 AM

Joined the server.

Trafalgar Law 31-Jan-20 09:04 PM

Is it possible to make a screen with scoreboard?

I dont get it :/

ChillerDragon 31-Jan-20 09:14 PM

sure

open scoreboard and make screenshot xd

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Trafalgar Law 31-Jan-20 09:15 PM

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:27 AM

Joined the server.

hi, is this where i could ask about server hosting?

Trafalgar Law 01-Feb-20 12:33 AM

@ChillerDragon

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:35 AM

hm?

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:35 AM

idk how to bound the server from localhost to internet

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:35 AM

yikes port forwarding

you host locally on your home network hm?

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:35 AM

no port foward is done

or, should be

[2020-01-31 20:32:38][econ]: bound to localhost:8303

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:36 AM

econ?

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:36 AM

im not really sure about some stuff, tbh

but ports should be open

can't manage to open the server to the internet tho

i've been searching on how to setup stuff, already did port fowarding to 8303

in both firewall and router

sv can't seem to connect into masters

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:38 AM

0.6?

or 0.7?

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:38 AM

i was trying 0.7

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:39 AM

0.6 masters are usually unstable

so you can connect to the server locally

but its not registered in master?

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:39 AM

yes

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:39 AM

really sounds like a portforwarding issue to me

do not ask me how it works i didnt manage to get it running in 6 years xd

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:41 AM

used the port fowarding tool to check it

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:42 AM

hmm

sv_register 1

but thats a default

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:42 AM

in the servers option there are a couple called bindaddr

i was wondering if i gotta touch those or not

sv_name Omega bindaddr sv_port 8303 sv_external_port 8303 sv_max_clients 12 sv_max_clients_per_ip 2 sv_high_bandwidth 1 sv_register 1 sv_map dm1 password mps console_output_level 1 sv_rcon_max_tries 3 sv_rcon_bantime 5 sv_auto_demo_record 0 sv_auto_demo_max 0 ec_bindaddr ec_port 8303 ec_password mps ec_bantime 0 ec_auth_timeout 30 ec_output_level 1

thats the current serverconfig

heinrich5991 01-Feb-20 12:43 AM

@dead50 what is you server's ip?

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:44 AM

thats where the econ comes from i see

where did u get that config from?

idk what bindaddr does

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:44 AM

from teeworlds server settings

its the second one

and about the ip, im also unsure

it should be my ip4?

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:45 AM

i never used it and my servers work fine

i do not think ipv6 is well supported

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:47 AM

huh.

now i can't even connect myself

this is getting wierder now.

nvm its working now

[2020-01-31 20:49:37][register]: WARNING: Master server is not responding, switching master [2020-01-31 20:49:37][engine/mastersrv]: refreshing master server addresses [2020-01-31 20:49:37][register]: refreshing ip addresses [2020-01-31 20:49:37][engine/mastersrv]: saving addresses [2020-01-31 20:49:37][register]: fetching server counts [2020-01-31 20:49:38][register]: chose 'master2.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats

it keeps trying to join masters 1 2 3 and 4

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:50 AM

can you connect via your public ip?

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:50 AM

with no luck

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:51 AM

or could you maybe send your public ip so one could test if it is a master issue

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:51 AM

190.46.239.223:8303

thing is, when i join it shows up the localhost ip

not my public one

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:56 AM

also connects me to local host

heinrich5991 01-Feb-20 12:56 AM

no, I can't reach your server @dead50

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:57 AM

does it redirect to localhost as well

maybe its a local ip

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:57 AM

it is the local ip instead of the public

thats my problem

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 12:58 AM

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+is+my+ip (edited)

dead50 01-Feb-20 12:58 AM

Your IP address is 190.46.239.223 in

i understand little about this, but im getting is that the ip in the configuration is my local one instead of the public one, not allowing it to connect to masters ?

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:00 AM

idk

anyways i can not recommed hosting servers locally anyways

people will most likley just lag on your servers

for what do you need the server?

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:00 AM

how would i host a server then

just people playing

10 or less

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:01 AM

in a data center

rent a server from a server hoster

or order the last free server from ChillerDragons free hosting month

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:02 AM

living in southAmerica, just wanted to host for some friends

i guess its too hard

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:02 AM

i feel u

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:03 AM

only servers that are up

are the race ones around here.

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:03 AM

so what do you want then?

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:03 AM

anything alse but really, no other server here

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:03 AM

any reason you do not join one of the existing servers instead of hosting a own server?

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:03 AM

catch servers were neat

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:03 AM

there are catch servers

ah maybe not in USA

you can ask @heinrich5991 to host some

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:05 AM

the only dm server is brazilian

and its closed, can't join in

thats basically why, tbh

there are plenty USA sv's but

150+ ping sucks

basically thats why i tried hosting myself

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:07 AM

yea but hosting ur self usually only fixes your own ping and others will have poor connection

not always but mostly private connections are much weaker than datacenter connections

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:07 AM

i see

well i will ask friends to check if we hire a server

thanks for the help!

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:08 AM

yea thats an idea

or ask in ddnet discord

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:08 AM

isn't ddnet only for race servers tho?

thats what i read

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:08 AM

they have servers in literally all ping zones and they used to host all types of gametypes in 0.6

mainly ddrace but they had also other gametypes

heinrich5991 01-Feb-20 01:09 AM

hosting your own server can be fine IMO

[12:59 AM] dead55: i understand little about this, but im getting is that the ip in the configuration is my local one instead of the public one, not allowing it to connect to masters

no, this is not the problem

but apparently you're not getting master server answers at all

ChillerDragon 01-Feb-20 01:10 AM

yea its because the server is not public at all

its not a master issue

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:11 AM

in any case

this is the whole log for the server

Attachment: message.txt (2.46 KB)

heinrich5991 01-Feb-20 01:11 AM

this is missing the response from the masters

are you on windows or linux?

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:12 AM

windows

heinrich5991 01-Feb-20 01:12 AM

you can connect to online servers, right?

what does the log say about not reaching master servers in the server?

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:13 AM

you mean from teeworlds.exe?

heinrich5991 01-Feb-20 01:13 AM

can you connect to online servers from teeworlds.exe?

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:13 AM

yea

heinrich5991 01-Feb-20 01:13 AM

what does the log of teeworlds_srv.exe say about not being able to reach the masters?

dead50 01-Feb-20 01:14 AM

[2020-01-31 21:10:16][register]: chose 'master3.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats [2020-01-31 21:11:16][register]: WARNING: Master server is not responding, switching master [2020-01-31 21:11:16][engine/mastersrv]: refreshing master server addresses [2020-01-31 21:11:16][register]: refreshing ip addresses [2020-01-31 21:11:16][engine/mastersrv]: saving addresses [2020-01-31 21:11:16][register]: fetching server counts [2020-01-31 21:11:17][register]: chose 'master4.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats [2020-01-31 21:12:17][register]: WARNING: Master server is not responding, switching master [2020-01-31 21:12:17][engine/mastersrv]: refreshing master server addresses [2020-01-31 21:12:17][register]: refreshing ip addresses [2020-01-31 21:12:17][engine/mastersrv]: saving addresses [2020-01-31 21:12:17][register]: fetching server counts [2020-01-31 21:12:17][register]: chose 'master4.teeworlds.com' as master, sending heartbeats

it keeps trying to connect to it

i uh actually just connect to one of chiller dragon sv's

no problem at all

MarisaG 01-Feb-20 06:27 AM

I run several servers around the world, including California, Dallas TX, and Singapore. If you want a server near you just let me know! Our servers all start with "Game Player Club"...

Fudgy 01-Feb-20 07:21 AM

dont you have to add firewall rules in windows to allow hosting a public server? Idk if that was mentionned before

just port forwarding isnt enough

jxsl13 01-Feb-20 02:06 PM

Yeah, windows sucks.

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 02:14 PM

allah said that

dead50 01-Feb-20 02:28 PM

its just wierd overall

cuz i don't get the problem

but yeah, i added firewall rules to 8303, too

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 02:38 PM

use torrent xd

torrent setting - connection - port

jxsl13 01-Feb-20 03:32 PM

hamashi tw server

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 04:03 PM

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:25 PM

@Iman im waiting large text xD

Iman 01-Feb-20 07:25 PM

a thought about what has been said in #bridge by @ShootXen : a game can be hard and casual-friendly teeworlds isn't imao casual friendly take any other game, wich played at a competitive level, is hard you have a tutorial ranking system player with the same level and u can just play with the same level forever and ever and enjoy it ! some ppl are happy with a 50% winrate but in teeworlds since there isn't any ranking system u have like 1% or less winrate, 0.0000001 k/d i mean, in other games u can keep playing at the same level and loose some games, win some other and to become strong, u need to overcome yourself and this is hard to get to a good level but in teeworlds u need to overcome urself to have a 10% winrate since everyone is 100X stronger than u and there isn't any ranking system (edited)

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:26 PM

once i had seen a forum topic with the ranking system idea

we have some matters with that idea: (edited)

- the ranking system

- account system

Iman 01-Feb-20 07:27 PM

the ranking system allow competitives games to keep their casual players

i mean

imagine beginning LoL today and everyone is plat

or idk

cs go

u cant

that's very hard

ShootXen 01-Feb-20 07:28 PM

Quake

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:28 PM

teeworlds had good 50/50 noob/pro community at the 0.5 time

ShootXen 01-Feb-20 07:28 PM

Unreal tournament

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:29 PM

now that is repeating with 0.7

Iman 01-Feb-20 07:29 PM

what about quake and unreal tournament ?

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:29 PM

new community

Souly 01-Feb-20 07:29 PM

ShootXen 01-Feb-20 07:29 PM

Also WE dont have any kind of ranked

Iman 01-Feb-20 07:29 PM

ikr there isnt any ranking system in teeworld

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:29 PM

teeworlds have no anticheat implements in server code

okey okey

Iman 01-Feb-20 07:30 PM

and i don't want a ranking system rn, i was just talking about the question of "hard games" and tw

ShootXen 01-Feb-20 07:30 PM

Hard games are in the cap games

On Clan servers

Ctf5 is casual (edited)

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:31 PM

i think that you guys want public servers(without any ranks as official) and rank servers(with official ranks)

Iman 01-Feb-20 07:31 PM

u mean everything else is easy @ShootXen right :D

ok

the topic is over

nice

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:32 PM

i want to say that vanilla mods(casuals) can not be very interesting in young community

Iman 01-Feb-20 07:32 PM

it was so ez to play since now

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:32 PM

its boring

Iman 01-Feb-20 07:33 PM

i was just having fun around since i wasnt doing "hard clan cap games"

so ez

i was the strongest one

on every existing mo (edited)

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 07:33 PM

xD

Iman 01-Feb-20 07:33 PM

*mod

irl buzz lightyear 01-Feb-20 09:02 PM

Joined the server.

Can I host a server for a specific group online?

a gerdoe 01-Feb-20 09:06 PM

there are guides about server starting at the teeworlds.com forum (edited)

jxsl13 01-Feb-20 09:37 PM

@irl buzz lightyear you can set a server password and give it to that group. Other methods allow for everyone to join the server.

ASSIST 02-Feb-20 01:14 AM

Joined the server.

PommesdePins 02-Feb-20 01:22 AM

Joined the server.

Pauline 02-Feb-20 11:33 AM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 02-Feb-20 12:50 PM

heyho guys

jxsl13 02-Feb-20 01:19 PM

hey funny cat.

a gerdoe 02-Feb-20 01:20 PM

yea, my name is barsik

Neomauxx 02-Feb-20 01:42 PM

Joined the server.

Kaptar 02-Feb-20 03:08 PM

Joined the server.

⁂𝕭𝖔𝖗𝖎𝖎𝖍𝖍⁂ 02-Feb-20 09:00 PM

Joined the server.

irl buzz lightyear 03-Feb-20 07:58 PM

https://teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_setup I'm trying to follow the tutorial from here, but it's not clear enough for me

a gerdoe 03-Feb-20 08:08 PM

you need to open your port on 8303. or on necessary-port

irl buzz lightyear 03-Feb-20 08:11 PM

I'm stuck in the configuring part because its confusing

a gerdoe 03-Feb-20 08:29 PM

what mod do you configuring?

vanilla mod, i guess

How did you stick?

irl buzz lightyear 03-Feb-20 09:10 PM

Yes, I'm using vanilla. And what do you mean by "stick"?

jxsl13 03-Feb-20 11:00 PM

you put an autoexec.cfg, containing the server configuration, file in the same folder as your teeworlds_srv. open a terminal. navigate to that folder and execute ./teeworlds_srvto start the server

irl buzz lightyear 03-Feb-20 11:07 PM

done it

jxsl13 03-Feb-20 11:24 PM

what's the problem?

what does the terminal output say?

on windows also double clicking on the teeworlds_srv.exe should work, if there is a config file in the same folder. if not, it would still start a server with default values.

Phorravie 04-Feb-20 07:54 AM

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lan 04-Feb-20 03:07 PM

Is it me, or is teeworlds unplayable on a pi4/raspbian ?

Dune 04-Feb-20 03:08 PM

what goes wrong, @lan?

lan 04-Feb-20 03:08 PM

its slow

Dune 04-Feb-20 03:08 PM

low fps?

lan 04-Feb-20 03:08 PM

aye

lan 04-Feb-20 03:22 PM

sound is clipping now

Dune 04-Feb-20 03:22 PM

doesn't sound too surprising to me for a pi4, does it?

lan 04-Feb-20 03:22 PM

I have it windowed at 800x600, it seems to run smoothly, but the sound clips (edited)

snd_buffer_size 512

nd_rate 48000

should I change either of these?

Dune 04-Feb-20 03:23 PM

that will probably help

lan 04-Feb-20 03:24 PM

lower or higher though?

in game, it only offers to lower the snd_rate to 44?

Dune 04-Feb-20 03:25 PM

hmm, seems like it only accepts 48000 and 44100?

does increasing sound buffer size helps

goes from 128 to 32768

lan 04-Feb-20 03:43 PM

1024 is next?

1024 is good!

Dune 04-Feb-20 03:47 PM

cheers!

a gerdoe 04-Feb-20 04:00 PM

lan 04-Feb-20 04:01 PM

I should notify raspbian about the good settings

Rapid 04-Feb-20 05:02 PM

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Schmetterhand 04-Feb-20 05:08 PM

@lan cool that you test it out, always ncie to see some games running on the Pi (edited)

Shikitera 04-Feb-20 05:20 PM

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ShootXen 04-Feb-20 07:48 PM

teeworlds should run on a toaster

Dune 04-Feb-20 07:49 PM

aren't pi4s modern toasters

Ryozuki 04-Feb-20 07:50 PM

Quadcore

They theorifally support 2 4k displays

Its more for browsing tho

Trafalgar Law 04-Feb-20 10:45 PM

Robyt3 is on fire

samii 05-Feb-20 12:26 AM

Joined the server.

lan 05-Feb-20 01:12 AM

the distros are all 32bit though

so you get 4 64bit cores and you can't use any on the official distros

heinrich5991 05-Feb-20 02:27 AM

arch linux arm is 64 bit

for the raspberry pi

lan 05-Feb-20 04:17 AM

I'd rather throw it in the river

alpine is also 64bit, but the official barely runs

dont wanna go around testing distros

heinrich5991 05-Feb-20 02:14 PM

I'm running arch linux arm on my pis

I don't know why you compare it to throwing it into a river

installation is easier than desktop arch linux

lan 05-Feb-20 04:42 PM

Because arch killed a desktop of mine

I also don't like rolling release distros

don't mean to offend, I know some swear by arch, its just not for me

also now I'm getting a too weak connection (out of buffer)

whenever I try to cast a vote

sigh either raspbian is terrible or my raspi is terrible

Schmetterhand 05-Feb-20 04:44 PM

guys stop fighting over distros it's FOSS or not FOSS

heinrich5991 05-Feb-20 04:45 PM

where did we fight over distros?

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which raspi do you have?

if it's not 4, you could try the official debian

Schmetterhand 05-Feb-20 04:47 PM

you were just starting, judging from past experiences

(edited)

jk

lan 05-Feb-20 04:49 PM

its 4

so I'm Fed

Schmetterhand 05-Feb-20 04:51 PM

have a collection here. One Pi 1, two Pi 2s, one Pi 3 and one Pi 4

lan 05-Feb-20 04:57 PM

how many run teeworlds and how many work?

lan 05-Feb-20 05:40 PM

I just set youtube to fullscreen and my mouse disappeared... pi4's are terrible

Ryozuki 05-Feb-20 06:52 PM

You are paying 60€ dont expect muu

Much

heinrich5991 05-Feb-20 07:02 PM

that doesn't sound like a hardware issue though

lan 05-Feb-20 08:21 PM

people always say that but $60 is a lot of money

also I paid way more than $60

$30 on the sdcard alone

jxsl13 05-Feb-20 08:24 PM

don't expect muu!

heinrich5991 05-Feb-20 08:27 PM

pi4s are actually quite powerful

Schmetterhand 05-Feb-20 09:37 PM

the end user UI on the Pi is clunky sometimes, but the HW is good

colin 05-Feb-20 10:12 PM

just don't use a UI

remotely sshfs w/ emacs (or tramp)

>profit

Ryozuki 05-Feb-20 11:36 PM

boo emacs

go vim

lan 06-Feb-20 01:03 AM

boo vim

go vis

ACTIVIST 06-Feb-20 01:13 AM

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Dune 06-Feb-20 11:55 AM

https://xkcd.com/378/

xkcd: Real Programmers

ChillerDragon 06-Feb-20 01:35 PM

emacs lol

colin 06-Feb-20 06:35 PM

emacs is the best

jxsl13 06-Feb-20 06:46 PM

monoid = hate

ChillerDragon 06-Feb-20 07:49 PM

Do you know why „I use emacs btw“ is not a meme? Because nobody uses emacs.

colin 06-Feb-20 08:12 PM

but.. but.. I use emacs :'(

am i a nobedie

Schmetterhand 06-Feb-20 08:32 PM

ducks behind something solid

jxsl13 06-Feb-20 09:12 PM

told you five messages ago.

colin 06-Feb-20 09:16 PM

I am not hate

Assa 06-Feb-20 09:42 PM

uses notepad++ quietly on windows

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colin 06-Feb-20 09:43 PM

weak weak

szilaj200350 07-Feb-20 01:35 PM

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Deleted User 07-Feb-20 04:08 PM

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Hildi 07-Feb-20 06:41 PM

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Assa 07-Feb-20 07:56 PM

has anyone some wild western gold rush mapres? I imagine something like mines, carts, TNT

Dune 07-Feb-20 08:01 PM

never seen one

jxsl13 07-Feb-20 08:16 PM

TNT can be found ingame, occasionally.

andyfrain 07-Feb-20 08:29 PM

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Fudgy 08-Feb-20 12:40 AM

seems like there's some elements of what you want in this map https://uniqueclan.net/map/Miners_Misery (edited)

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LONELY 08-Feb-20 02:03 AM

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Iman 08-Feb-20 11:32 AM

why can we setup grenade multiple boosts by shooting and dying in vanilla race ?

i mean

bcs of old players ofc

but any other reason

?

i was thinking it was a weird feature that player can "setup" his boosts before the run start :|

imagine in any racing game if u could like setup your speed before the race starts

Assa 08-Feb-20 12:12 PM

@Fudgy ❤️

Iman 08-Feb-20 12:26 PM

?

Assa 08-Feb-20 01:07 PM

@Iman it depends on the server and the map

gallant 09-Feb-20 01:04 AM

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NudelBr0t 09-Feb-20 11:12 AM

alexqem 09-Feb-20 11:25 AM

does Teeworlds game helped the sweedish porgrammer to earn money? (edited)

jxsl13 09-Feb-20 11:44 AM

It helped him build a portfolio, which helped him find a job. The game did not help earn any money, as it's free in every aspect.

alexqem 09-Feb-20 11:51 AM

what max number of players been in the most popular time?

jxsl13 09-Feb-20 11:53 AM

dunno, 1000 players 24/7

Dune 09-Feb-20 12:08 PM

@alexqem yeah he broke even and got some donations, but refused most of it

We used to accept donations for the servers, but now they're all community hosted

BinDerBeste007 09-Feb-20 08:58 PM

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poko 09-Feb-20 09:32 PM

god bless you guys

jxsl13 09-Feb-20 09:37 PM

.:NT:., [neon]?

Skayland 09-Feb-20 09:49 PM

And what about teeworlds website? Who hosts that? (edited)

jxsl13 09-Feb-20 09:51 PM

minus?

Robidilardik 10-Feb-20 01:05 AM

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Dune 10-Feb-20 01:06 AM

@Skayland they are hosted on Kottizen's servers

FOCUSED 10-Feb-20 01:33 AM

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Pink Guy(tle) 10-Feb-20 08:22 AM

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Sneak 10-Feb-20 07:47 PM

is there a way to hide the emotes from other ppls ?

ChillerDragon 10-Feb-20 07:50 PM

not without modifying the client

as far as i know

why would you want to do that?

Iman 10-Feb-20 07:50 PM

create an empty emote image ?

ChillerDragon 10-Feb-20 07:51 PM

oh wait

i red it wrong

Iman 10-Feb-20 07:51 PM

ChillerDragon 10-Feb-20 07:51 PM

you do not want to see others emotes

i thought you want others to not see your emotes

but my answer would be the same except without "why would you want to do that?"

Iman 10-Feb-20 07:53 PM

cant u create an empty image with good dimensions and replace the normal emotes.png by the empty one ?

lol

Dune 10-Feb-20 07:58 PM

@Iman empty transparent image will work :)

just open emotes.png it in a transparency-aware editor

Iman 10-Feb-20 07:59 PM

nice !

ChillerDragon 10-Feb-20 08:11 PM

but this also hides your own emotes

poko 10-Feb-20 08:26 PM

.:NT:., [neon]?

@jxsl13 yep

colin 10-Feb-20 08:27 PM

just change the emotes to gang signs

poko 10-Feb-20 08:28 PM

this man know what up

jxsl13 10-Feb-20 08:36 PM

hey dude, poko, long time not seen.

colin 10-Feb-20 08:38 PM

here we go

jxsl13 10-Feb-20 09:03 PM

here we go shows image of cracked photoshop

colin 10-Feb-20 09:06 PM

it's not cracked

lol

VVVVVVVVV 10-Feb-20 09:36 PM

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Lukas12334632 10-Feb-20 11:31 PM

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Hey guys anyone knows what was that today on fokkonauts playground the server crashed several times seemingly for no reason??

jxsl13 10-Feb-20 11:41 PM

bug?

Iman 10-Feb-20 11:42 PM

jxsl13 11-Feb-20 12:00 AM

tell fokkonaut, Iman found the bug

𝙉𝙞𝙘𝙝𝙮_𝙔𝙏✔ 11-Feb-20 12:13 AM

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heyms ky 11-Feb-20 12:14 AM

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a gerdoe 11-Feb-20 05:47 AM

sdasdasddfg 11-Feb-20 03:17 PM

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fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 05:00 PM

hi

jxsl13 11-Feb-20 06:20 PM

dances

Jack098 11-Feb-20 08:48 PM

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Deleted User 11-Feb-20 08:48 PM

Trafalgar Law 11-Feb-20 08:49 PM

Iman 11-Feb-20 08:52 PM

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:00 PM

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I would definitely suggest one thing: destroying that kiddo bas*ard that destroyed my run on Laws Multimapless server !!!!!!

Trafalgar Law 11-Feb-20 10:07 PM

xd

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:07 PM

just wtf guys was that ???

i just quit raged

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:07 PM

I am working on a solution...

Sorry for thos

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:07 PM

raged quit

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:07 PM

this

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:08 PM

How did he managed to do that ???

That is just silly that someone can do without any effort do such sh**t.

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:09 PM

There surely is a lot of effort

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:09 PM

who knows

Trafalgar Law 11-Feb-20 10:10 PM

We are working on it Angrytee

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:10 PM

are you that guy?

Trafalgar Law 11-Feb-20 10:10 PM

Please calm

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:10 PM

What??

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:10 PM

its funny

you seem to be a new discord account, just joined tw discord 10 min ago

and now complaing

with the name angry tee

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:10 PM

like why do you think my name is angry tee

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:11 PM

my names fokkonaut, do i rename when i get angryM

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:11 PM

i just made this to complain anonymously

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:11 PM

?*

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:11 PM

well ..

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:11 PM

complaining about Something you maybe did on purpose yourself?

Funny, really

Tell me how you did it

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:11 PM

you have to find out thats the biggest fun

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:11 PM

lmao

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:12 PM

amberzahn kicked and so i kicked him

and improved my IT skills a little bit too

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:12 PM

You didnt get acces to rcon tho

so how did you do it?

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:12 PM

u really dont know cuz its super simple

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:12 PM

i can imagine

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:13 PM

i dont even know properly how that game works i barely saw source code

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:13 PM

that doesnt matter

Tell me the steps to reproduce that please

Trafalgar Law 11-Feb-20 10:14 PM

You could help us to fix that and stop annoying other who wants to play

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:15 PM

well ill probably keep that secret for me just in case ...

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:15 PM

Does it work on all Servers or just ddnet7?

and my server

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:16 PM

and amberzahn still pisses me off a little bit with his lifebans

Trafalgar Law 11-Feb-20 10:16 PM

her

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:17 PM

i didnt try all servers just yours and two laws servers

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:17 PM

mind responding to my dm @Angry_tee ?

@Angry_tee try other servers

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:18 PM

its the simplest dos attack u can imagine

actualy ur server reacted totaly different it just crashed

it didnt kick anyone before it crashed

which is quite interesting but doesnt help u at all

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:19 PM

does it work on all servers?

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:19 PM

im not sure maybe

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:19 PM

try it

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:20 PM

i gave enough info for now

do your best and youll find out

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:20 PM

tell me if it works everywhwere

or just on laws and my server

or does it also work on ctf?

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:23 PM

your answer that you are working on solution which you told me when you thought i was real gamer is pretty funny cuz you dont know anything about the problem yet

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:23 PM

i do know a lot

Just gotta combine the pieces

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:23 PM

so what do you know

??

except thing i told u

*things

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:23 PM

I'll tell you in exchange to an answer to my questio

n

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:24 PM

i dont wanna do the tests now

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:24 PM

no answer then.

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:24 PM

but maybe tommorow

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:24 PM

good night

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:25 PM

whos actually developing game

btw isnt it morning npow

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:25 PM

10pm here

Angry_tee 11-Feb-20 10:25 PM

oh

hi

Trafalgar Law 11-Feb-20 10:30 PM

lol is he banned?

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:31 PM

no, why

Trafalgar Law 11-Feb-20 10:31 PM

Because if you right click there is normal "roles"

ShootXen 11-Feb-20 10:45 PM

he can read here but dont write stuff since he doesn't own the TWO-WAY role

Trafalgar Law 11-Feb-20 10:45 PM

No

Only in #bridge

ShootXen 11-Feb-20 10:45 PM

nvm I'm retarded

you dont need roles

just for bridge

was looking just at names here in the chat and was guessing I'm in bridge

fokkonaut 11-Feb-20 10:47 PM

Xd

jxsl13 12-Feb-20 12:13 PM

autoclicker + joining/disconnecting from server? anyone tried?

Dune 12-Feb-20 12:57 PM

press enter thrice and you already get banned for flooding :P (edited)

fokkonaut 12-Feb-20 01:39 PM

not on ddnet, there is a connlimit, so you need a few more fast reconnects

because sometimes you accidently click too much enter

and randomly get banned for it

on vanilla

jxsl13 12-Feb-20 01:46 PM

I mean maybe disconnecting before a connection is actually established? Haven't looked at the protocol there, but might be like spamming the token handshake?

Dune 12-Feb-20 02:46 PM

@fokkonaut yeah there is an issue for that one

fokkonaut 12-Feb-20 02:47 PM

I can apply the fix in vanilla if wanted

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet7/commit/26b2437764edb0c0b3d0b92306aa1834decd66e2

Add netlimit and connlimit · ddnet/ddnet7@26b2437

its this one

its actually only the ConnLimit

but netlimit is also a good thing

It is possible to only add the connlimit tho, but i suggest also adding the netlimit

this is in ddnet for years, and also i have added it to my mod and ddnet7. works nice

Angry_tee 12-Feb-20 03:29 PM

ill try it out

SCORNFUL 14-Feb-20 01:09 AM

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Spoki4 14-Feb-20 12:52 PM

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Deleted User 14-Feb-20 04:11 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghxx2tTK4g

Prudrugtiq

Neverwhere - Destin and snailx3 [Rank 1] [DDrace]

Destin aka Destom and snailx3 on a huuughe moderate map. First rank on ddracenetwork servers. Map: Nerverwhere - by Bixes and Themix hompage: http://chillerdragon.weebly.com Gameplays: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpOIAoAAY3OXPUOTwAL_wPA/videos TeeTower: https://www.y...

i like the music

both calm and energetic

Assa 14-Feb-20 06:19 PM

nice, i think i needed 6 hours for this map

The_Nutella_ 14-Feb-20 08:57 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 15-Feb-20 01:17 AM

showing pickups you don't need with more transparency :)

(those you can't pick up)

jxsl13 15-Feb-20 02:27 AM

man

that's like telling people you don't need to know where your pickups are located .O (edited)

colin 15-Feb-20 02:57 AM

should add a better scripting language to teeworlds

3

cheers

colin 15-Feb-20 03:58 AM

yeah it's a good idea

imagine writing gamemode logic in C++

like some kind of clown

heinrich5991 15-Feb-20 04:10 AM

I agree with your point but not with the delivery

colin 15-Feb-20 04:23 AM

just need someone to write gluon for C

and we'll be in business

none of that Lua or Python nonsense

Deleted User 15-Feb-20 08:12 AM

Should turn C into a scripting language, by adding edit and continue or faster recompilation with tcc/ dll.

Assa 15-Feb-20 10:04 AM

thinking python is actually in the running game and not only in the tooling (and compiling)

sounds like sb. has trouble with c++

colin 15-Feb-20 10:43 AM

I was thinking more Lua or something

fundamentally, you could create a bunch of gamemodes just based off of hooks one could register via Lua

Assa 15-Feb-20 11:02 AM

then you are limited by the hooks, currently you are only limited by the netcode

colin 15-Feb-20 11:03 AM

depends on the hooks you expose

hooks would only signify reentrancy of your plugin code

nothing to do with capability

depends what else you expose to the environment of the embeddable language (edited)

of course significant effort would need to be exerted to get the codebase into a state where easy scripting of gamemodes is possible

Assa 15-Feb-20 11:05 AM

I already made engine-breaking stuff like map-generators which will not be possible with hooks

but at one point it's right, we are missing something like a partee mod with a lot of minigames and this would be much easier with hooks

Dune 15-Feb-20 12:13 PM

that's like telling people you don't need to know where your pickups are located .O

what? (edited)

jxsl13 15-Feb-20 12:33 PM

that's taking away the need for people to learn the maps :'(

scripting would make the code base not as easy to understand as it currently is. And it's actually rather easy to understand, at least if one knows some C++.

Dune 15-Feb-20 12:36 PM

that's taking away the need for people to learn the maps :'(

I think you misunderstand, it shows pickups you can't get because you are full

also, I don't feel like you should learn a map to be able to play properly ^^

jxsl13 15-Feb-20 12:41 PM

it's not telling you where e.g. the next laser spawns when you in need of one, but that laser has not soawned yet?

spawned

well, you gotta be in the vicinity of the laser pickup to see it

Dune 15-Feb-20 12:45 PM

no

jxsl13 15-Feb-20 12:46 PM

ok. so cannot pickup cuz full :o

while pickup is visibly spawned. (edited)

Xorcist 15-Feb-20 09:40 PM

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HEIRESS 16-Feb-20 01:07 AM

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Sauce 16-Feb-20 04:18 AM

game is terrific thank you for all the hardwork

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tried it again a more recent version and is really good

Trafalgar Law 16-Feb-20 12:15 PM

@heinrich5991 I think you banned the wrong server

https://i.imgur.com/ssRdVHP.png

https://i.imgur.com/nFRT1aU.png

Look at the ips

Inferno.7z 16-Feb-20 02:15 PM

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flow 16-Feb-20 03:23 PM

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Assa 16-Feb-20 04:35 PM

108.191.164.78:8302 is the fake server

gj

I even posted the ip on the bridge ...

@heinrich5991 @Dune

Dune 16-Feb-20 04:42 PM

yes, it's a typo, it'll get sorted out

Dune 16-Feb-20 09:18 PM

jesus

good ping but unplayable :(

Trafalgar Law 16-Feb-20 09:19 PM

._.

heinrich5991 17-Feb-20 12:17 AM

done

5

agree with 17-Feb-20 01:10 AM

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Avolino 17-Feb-20 01:20 PM

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xfce 17-Feb-20 02:42 PM

It was so funny

Assa 17-Feb-20 02:46 PM

lol he has an AK47, is there a counterstrike gameskin?

Trafalgar Law 17-Feb-20 02:46 PM

@Assa look in Channel #Skins on my dc server ^^

There are many skins with AK

Assa 17-Feb-20 02:54 PM

yeah but I didn't find a csgo one, maybe i need to do one myself (with screenshots from the actual game)

Trafalgar Law 17-Feb-20 02:55 PM

?

I think he is using the AOE game.png

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=506

Assa 17-Feb-20 02:55 PM

but I asked for a counterstrike gameskin?

Trafalgar Law 17-Feb-20 02:56 PM

Ah I thought you wan't this skin from him

My bad

Jesus Christ 17-Feb-20 05:07 PM

@jao zelda is hoe

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Souly 17-Feb-20 05:45 PM

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Cartoon 17-Feb-20 06:41 PM

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Slimiie 17-Feb-20 09:17 PM

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Liola 17-Feb-20 10:09 PM

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colin 17-Feb-20 11:45 PM

Why is Standard Gametype locked on my client

It's selected and greyed out

can't flip it

Dune 18-Feb-20 10:43 AM

The Teeworlds filter is a special filter

colin 18-Feb-20 10:43 AM

clown filter

Dune 18-Feb-20 10:44 AM

Use the All filter or create a new one

colin 18-Feb-20 10:44 AM

just reinstalled the teeworlds package

jxsl13 18-Feb-20 10:44 AM

it's the base game. gotta live with it or not.

Dune 18-Feb-20 10:44 AM

Teeworlds is up to date on your package manager?

(Pure curiosity

)

colin 18-Feb-20 12:04 PM

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/teeworlds/

if this up to date, then yes

ChillerDragon 18-Feb-20 12:37 PM

Ye it is. Not surprisingly for arch.

MrGGG 18-Feb-20 12:42 PM

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fokkonaut 18-Feb-20 08:56 PM

@ChillerDragon

ChillerDragon 18-Feb-20 09:38 PM

@fokkonaut

jxsl13 18-Feb-20 10:30 PM

spongebob

Trafalgar Law 18-Feb-20 10:32 PM

Patrick

Souly 18-Feb-20 11:10 PM

i like pokemon

Iman 18-Feb-20 11:13 PM

I play pokemon go

everydaaaay

Slimiie 18-Feb-20 11:16 PM

gaming

colin 19-Feb-20 12:12 AM

it's done it again

is this a bug

why does the client grey out the "ability to unselect Standard Gametype" in the server filter list

wtf

Dune 19-Feb-20 12:14 AM

only on the Teeworlds filter

colin 19-Feb-20 12:14 AM

absolutely mind numbing

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:14 AM

lol

now I see

it's seemingly a bug

colin 19-Feb-20 12:15 AM

ok bro I'll fix

/Standard

dd

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:15 AM

nice!

colin 19-Feb-20 12:15 AM

:w

git commit -m "fixededed"

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:16 AM

vim sucks

same as arch

colin 19-Feb-20 12:16 AM

I don't use vim

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 12:16 AM

@colin have you tried a different server filter (other than Teeworlds)

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:16 AM

xD

colin 19-Feb-20 12:16 AM

I use emasc with evil-mode

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:16 AM

well, emacs is not meme enough to insult it.

colin 19-Feb-20 12:16 AM

emacs is the best editor

heinrich, what do you mean

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:16 AM

yeah, I bet, but not a meme.

colin 19-Feb-20 12:17 AM

my IQ is too low

to understand what you mean by "other than Teeworlds"

I just added that "Game type", I dunno if it's even called that

same as arch

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:18 AM

UX design RIP!

colin 19-Feb-20 12:18 AM

can't beat simplicity (edited)

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:18 AM

arch is a meme.

colin 19-Feb-20 12:18 AM

it's a simple meme though

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:19 AM

"btw, I use arch

" (edited)

colin 19-Feb-20 12:19 AM

can't diss it then

convenient

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:19 AM

that should have stood in quotation marks

colin 19-Feb-20 12:19 AM

if I had it my way, I'd use FreeBSD

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:19 AM

I don't use arch

colin 19-Feb-20 12:20 AM

shame

what do you use

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:20 AM

macOS

colin 19-Feb-20 12:20 AM

I'm gonna guess

oh

I knew it had to be Windows or Mac

since that avatar looks like classic Cinema 4D + Photoshop

2012 vibes

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:20 AM

I didn't do y avatar

yeah it's about that old

colin 19-Feb-20 12:20 AM

classic

just need to find where ui_settings.json is stored on *nix

see what filter_gametype is

Dune 19-Feb-20 12:27 AM

or don't use the Teeworlds filter?

colin 19-Feb-20 12:28 AM

I don't understand what you mean

what does that even mean

isn't the game all teeworlds

you'll need to explain

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 12:28 AM

the Teeworlds filter restricts it to game types that are standard

i.e. ctf, dm, lms, etc.

colin 19-Feb-20 12:28 AM

how do I not use the filter

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 12:28 AM

click on another filter

Dune 19-Feb-20 12:28 AM

expand any other filter in the brwoser

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 12:28 AM

the plus

colin 19-Feb-20 12:29 AM

I see

that's really unintuitive

Dune 19-Feb-20 12:29 AM

all filters are unexpanded at the start

colin 19-Feb-20 12:29 AM

ah yes, pinnacle UX design

"it's simpler by default but if they make a mistake once, they're screwed"

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

ah, the default vanilla filter that is x)

colin 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

"they'll just need to resort to the developer Discord for help"

Dune 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

constructive suggestions are welcome

colin 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

genius

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

use 0.6 ux for that

colin 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

I dunno how UIs are done in SDL tbh

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

simply typing is more intuitive

colin 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

SDL looks like effort

Dune 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

that's not relevant

colin 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

can you just like

add Guile scripting

:^)

Dune 19-Feb-20 12:30 AM

I'm talking about the design, not about the backend

colin 19-Feb-20 12:31 AM

the whole multiple filters thing

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:31 AM

simply typing, the filters themselves are fine.

colin 19-Feb-20 12:31 AM

is unclear

Dune 19-Feb-20 12:31 AM

constructive suggestions are welcome

colin 19-Feb-20 12:31 AM

alright here's an idea

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:31 AM

switch + with -

colin 19-Feb-20 12:31 AM

highlight the selected filter

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:31 AM

x)

colin 19-Feb-20 12:31 AM

my eyes don't jump to

the + vs -

colin 19-Feb-20 12:41 AM

high quality C with classes

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:52 AM

game's initially been c

then ported to c++ without the standard library

colin 19-Feb-20 12:53 AM

tfw still links against the STL

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:54 AM

where?

colin 19-Feb-20 12:54 AM

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:56 AM

interesting

colin 19-Feb-20 12:57 AM

any money if you try to build with the flag that inhibits linking of libstdc++

it won't compile

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 12:58 AM

maybe due to new?

colin 19-Feb-20 12:58 AM

probably

Discord is being very intermittent

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 01:01 AM

broken as hell.

they can't deal with the traffic

funny, better send screenshots of messages than actual messages

broken as hell.

colin 19-Feb-20 01:01 AM

high quality internets

also likely because

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 01:03 AM

nicem broken as hell was sent twice

nice broken as hell was sent twice (edited)

colin 19-Feb-20 01:04 AM

https://status.discordapp.com/

Discord Status

Welcome to Discord's home for real-time and historical data on system performance.

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 01:04 AM

where is irc2.0 with markdown support and code highlighting.

nicem broken as hell was sent twice

interesting

where is irc2.0 with markdown support and code highlighting.

inpphhheption

colin 19-Feb-20 01:07 AM

Discord is being very intermittent

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 01:07 AM

xD rip.

inpphhheption

colin 19-Feb-20 01:07 AM

also likely because

Dune 19-Feb-20 01:07 AM

finns brought us IRC swedes brought us teeworlds what did the norwegians do, @MertenNor

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 01:08 AM

nicem broken as hell was sent twice

discord is completely dying down currently

holy shit, I get all the messages like 2 to 5 times

discord is completely dying down currently

norwegians should bring us IRC2.0

MertenNor 19-Feb-20 01:12 AM

Well...

Idk

christiann 19-Feb-20 01:45 AM

Joined the server.

Piotr 19-Feb-20 01:47 AM

Joined the server.

cheese 19-Feb-20 11:26 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 19-Feb-20 02:08 PM

@heinrich5991 the banlist didn't take effect, 24h later. you have an idea why?

guess some masterservers are a bit slow reloading the cfg?

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 02:29 PM

it's updated

https://status.tw/master/bans/

Masterserver bans - status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players.

here at least (edited)

but still online, tho

Deleted User 19-Feb-20 03:38 PM

>Dune: modified physics on CTF eh, it's ban worthy?

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 03:39 PM

yes

Dune 19-Feb-20 03:44 PM

@Deleted User https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=rules/server_rules

server admins can reach us on IRC or here to get unbanned

(you can't modify physics on CTF without removing the limit in the source code)

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:42 PM

@Dune Do you know the tickrate of TW servers? Does sv_highbandwidth enhance tickrate? By how much?

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:44 PM

src/engine/shared/protocol.h:81: SERVER_TICK_SPEED=50,

if(g_Config.m_SvHighBandwidth || (m_CurrentGameTick%2) == 0) DoSnapshot();

@Captain_AMN if sv_high_bandwidth is enabled, the server sends snapshots all the time, all it can

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:45 PM

thx

all it can... how much roughly?

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:46 PM

depends on your specs

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:46 PM

it's server limited?

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:47 PM

the description says you're not supposed to run sv_high_bandwidth other than in LAN

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:47 PM

yep ive seen that

on tee other hand, i think 50 tickrate is wayyy too low for good players

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:47 PM

I'm not sure about ticks, I don't think it changes the tick rate though?

should still be 50Hz, could be wrong

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:48 PM

what's the point in having a tickrate lower than a low-tier monitor's refresh rate

in a fast game like teeworlds, that's a lot of inaccuracy

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:49 PM

what's your ping

if it's 20ms, that's 1/50s

redix 19-Feb-20 05:49 PM

Tickrate 50, snaprate by default 25, with high bandwidth 50

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:49 PM

i tested sv_highbandwidth on a server. you can see the difference when you disable prediction on your client

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:50 PM

twice the snap frequency

redix 19-Feb-20 05:50 PM

Increasing the tickrate would break most physics code

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:50 PM

I mean, it shouldn't be that big when you compare it to the latency you have anyway which is higher than 1/50s (edited)

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:51 PM

well every layer of delay adds to inaccuracy

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:51 PM

welcome to online games

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:51 PM

you can't lower ping, but you can improve game tickrate

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:52 PM

if you can't lower ping, I think going under 1/50s is not going to make much of a difference while making it very much worse for players with a slightly bad connection

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:52 PM

@redix why break physics?

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:52 PM

I already can't play properly on any of @ChillerDragon 's french servers, because of packet losses

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:52 PM

it's not meant for the average joe

just an option for tournaments

and people who can notice such things

redix 19-Feb-20 05:53 PM

The physics code just wasn't designed to have a variable tickrate =\

Dune 19-Feb-20 05:54 PM

standard snap rate is every 40ms (edited)

redix 19-Feb-20 05:54 PM

But enabling high bandwidth should be okay for most connections

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:55 PM

i dont even know what snaprate is btw

redix 19-Feb-20 05:55 PM

By default the server does not send all snapshots

Just every second snap is sent to the clients (to save bandwidth)

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:57 PM

what does high bandwidth mode do?

redix 19-Feb-20 05:57 PM

It sends all snaps to the client -> 50 per second

By default it's 25

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 05:58 PM

and doesnt change tickrate...

ok

redix 19-Feb-20 05:59 PM

Yep. But might lower the delay a bit since your information about the game is more up to date

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:01 PM

there should be an experimental mode to try higher tickrate

maybe it's possible to adjust the physics so they stay unchanged

TW could then be a proper e-sports game

it's 2020 and there are 360hz monitors and fiber connections, playing with 50hz tickrate is lol

even on 5G people will have lower pings anyways

for an extremely fast game like teeworlds, it should really be considered

redix 19-Feb-20 06:05 PM

Right now when you just double the tickrate you cannot even move as far as I remember

And this would definitely need a compatibility break (version 0.8)

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:06 PM

what do you get from a higher tickrate?

360hz screens have nothing to do with that, display is as fast as you want

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:06 PM

you get a better and more precise gaming experience

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:07 PM

please be precise

I don't understand what you mean with "better and more precise gaming experience"

that's just buzzwords to me

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:07 PM

you can input more information to the game than it currently allows

and faster

also the tees positions are displayed better

right now it's pretty inaccurate

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:08 PM

the tees positions are displayed accurately

tee's*

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:08 PM

not when they are moving fast

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:08 PM

what do you mean?

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:09 PM

if you look at a movie at 5 FPS or a movie with 60 FPS, do you notice a difference?

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:09 PM

yes. luckily teeworlds can render to 1000fps if you want

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:10 PM

yes, but it's useless unless the server doesnt have 1000 tickrate, and your monitor doesnt have 1000 hz

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:10 PM

why is it useless if the server doesn't have a tickrate of 1000? I don't think that follows

[6:07 PM] Captain_AMN: you can input more information to the game than it currently allows

that point sounds valid though

currently, the average input delay is 10ms

which is a lot compared to ping, I guess

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:11 PM

your graphic card can only render the information it gets, so if that information isn't updated adequately, you cant take advantage of it

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:11 PM

teeworlds can render more than 50fps

it interpolates perfectly well

as said, you can have your 1000 fps

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:11 PM

look

those 1000 fps, 940 of them, you wont even see on your monitor man

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:12 PM

yes

but you complain about not seeing enough updates

redix 19-Feb-20 06:12 PM

Nah... For other players it just does linear interpolation between the last two ticks

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:12 PM

yes

but you can render as often as you want, and get a new view every time you render

also on your fancy 360hz screen

redix 19-Feb-20 06:12 PM

True

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:13 PM

if you match the server tickrate, game FPS, monitor hz close enough together, you have better visual and input accuracy

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:13 PM

can you support that hypothesis?

I see that a higher tickrate can improve input latency (as said above)

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:15 PM

can you support that hypothesis?

@heinrich5991 it's pretty straight forward, if you eliminate bottlenecks, you get benefits. guess we have to try it out to see if good players can notice a difference

heinrich5991 19-Feb-20 06:16 PM

so far your argument has mostly been "buzzword buzzword". I don't think it's that straightforward

we could try it out though

I don't have the feeling that the discussion will be much productive after this

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:18 PM

it's normal that these are just buzzwords to you, only pros (tm) can understand

if you can't notice a difference between a 240 fps monitor and playing 30FPS playstation, it sounds like rocket science to someone

redix 19-Feb-20 06:19 PM

Btw... Ticks are not always executed after 20 ms :O in average yes, but single ticks are somewhere between 15 and 25 ms. The idling code from ddnet fixes this. The gametime graph is smoother then and prediction is probably slightly lower

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:23 PM

ddnet shits all over TW

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 06:23 PM

the problem is more the prediction than actually the interpolation of old data.

more data might improve the prediction?

but clogg people's internet connection with bad connectivity?

when getting too much data?

redix 19-Feb-20 06:26 PM

Todays internet connections can probably handle the amount of data (at least snaprate of 50) but people with a high ping will hardly benefit from it

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 06:27 PM

more packets arrive?

redix 19-Feb-20 06:27 PM

Prediction for the local tee is just fine. Prediction for everything else is missing

Yeah. More snap packets

I think we tested high bandwidth in a few games on aeon server. No issues :D

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:29 PM

if you disable prediction, it's still choppy

but on other servers, it might not be

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 06:30 PM

might test it on zCatch and ask people if they got a better experience?

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:30 PM

come find me ingame now

test it on my server

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 06:30 PM

Prediction is there for data that's about to arrive, disabling prediction will obviously make the experience worse.

I'm not at a pc.

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 06:32 PM

it feels pretty inaccurate to me

disabling it you get better aim

crisper rocketjumps

ChillerDragon 19-Feb-20 06:53 PM

For me tw always felt kinda responsive compared to everything else

1

Trafalgar Law 19-Feb-20 06:53 PM

No one asked you Chilli!!!

Assa 19-Feb-20 07:37 PM

better prediction would help more

in one case you are right, teeworlds (client) is currently running on 50 updates per second

and I would be happy to get it up to 144 (for my monitor)

well, you could work arount that with a better client prediction <.<

redix 19-Feb-20 07:45 PM

i did some testing with amn his problem with prediction is that your tee is not really in sync with the nades so it can be hard to avoid nades when you activate high bandwidth (and have a low ping) you can even play without prediction, so your tee is actually in sync with the nades

without high bandwidth you definitely need prediction, otherwise the game feels choppy

Assa 19-Feb-20 07:51 PM

is there some documentation for high bandwith?

redix 19-Feb-20 07:52 PM

not really. it just sends 50 instead of 25 snaps per second to the client

basically doubles bandwidth

Assa 19-Feb-20 07:53 PM

i would really like it on client base

Dune 19-Feb-20 08:07 PM

client base?

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 08:15 PM

side

most likely requesting higher bandwidth from the server.

Assa 19-Feb-20 08:39 PM

maybe dynamically

Captain_AMN 19-Feb-20 08:40 PM

high bandwidth 0 + prediction off = game is choppy high bandwidth 1 + prediction off = game is great, with some minor visual bugs

i would really like to experience how higher tickrate would feel like, but redix says you pretty much can not alter the tickrate

redix 19-Feb-20 08:41 PM

visual bugs: hook still hits the predicted tee, airjump effect is also at the predicted position

i guess nobody ever tested this code

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 08:42 PM

in the early days of programming things worked without tests, because people knew what they were doing.

Assa 19-Feb-20 10:30 PM

with increasing complexity you have an increasing need for tests

the guy who implements unit tests for teeworlds would be my personal Hero

but it's unzumutbar

Trafalgar Law 19-Feb-20 10:31 PM

but it's unzumutbar

@Assa

Assa 19-Feb-20 10:31 PM

I wasn't able to find a coorect english translation for this word

germans have words for anything

maybe unbearable

basically a job where you don't want anyone to do it because it sucks (edited)

Dune 19-Feb-20 10:46 PM

there are unit tests in teeworlds

@heinrich5991 made some

that comes with downsides though, it makes things less flexible imo (edited)

Souly 19-Feb-20 11:01 PM

only legends remember

Trafalgar Law 19-Feb-20 11:02 PM

Xd

Emote 16

ChillerDragon 19-Feb-20 11:08 PM

Snitches ditched it

jxsl13 19-Feb-20 11:54 PM

wasn't that fixed?

heinrich5991 20-Feb-20 12:02 AM

@Dune which tests in particular make things less flexible?

Dune 20-Feb-20 12:03 AM

I meant in general, I haven't had any issues with teeworlds tests

just I'm not a big fan of test-driven development

some tests are good imo

heinrich5991 20-Feb-20 12:04 AM

having tests and doing test-driven development is not the same

I wouldn't develop a huge piece of software without tests

you're just scared to touch any line, because it might break something and you might not notice

tests help a bit with that

Dune 20-Feb-20 12:05 AM

especially when everything can touch at everything, yeah

reading the messages again, it really sounds like a pitchfork against your tests in particular, which I have no problem with. sorry!

heinrich5991 20-Feb-20 12:08 AM

sorry for the fuss

Dune 20-Feb-20 12:12 AM

you're just scared to touch any line, because it might break something and you might not notice

by the way, when in this situation, tests only make me marginally more confident

wasn't the promise of OOP to shield against these side effects?

clearly Teeworlds isn't really thought with encapsulation in mind, you can just access Client() in half of the code etc.

jxsl13 20-Feb-20 12:16 AM

current programming: let's change that, side effects do not exist :D

tests: let's change that, tests will tell us what side effects occurred.

heinrich5991 20-Feb-20 12:17 AM

nah

e.g. tests let me refactor the CJsonWriter

jxsl13 20-Feb-20 12:17 AM

>:o

heinrich5991 20-Feb-20 12:17 AM

that didn't have anything to do with side effects

jxsl13 20-Feb-20 12:17 AM

integration tests : don't exist

heinrich5991 20-Feb-20 12:18 AM

not in teeworlds

jxsl13 20-Feb-20 12:18 AM

:'(

redix 20-Feb-20 12:36 AM

considering tests... the json writer tests fail on windows due to line endings. gh actions just does not recognize =\

heinrich5991 20-Feb-20 12:37 AM

it doesn't fail on gh actions or the tests on gh action but it doesn't consider the run failed?

*the tests on gh actions fail

redix 20-Feb-20 12:38 AM

it fails but gh actions does not consider it. return code seems to be okay, even though the tests failed

Souly 20-Feb-20 12:59 AM

@jxsl13 emote 16 was fixed, if i remember correctly both server and client had to be 0.7.2 or 0.7.1 for this to work

~~we need emote 17 now~~

jxsl13 20-Feb-20 09:34 PM

anyone playing zCatch in here?

Please take part in the poll here: https://forms.gle/71HtSQNSeyJmMnNb6

Community poll for moderator staff on zCatch servers

Vote for players who deserve or not to be a moderator on zCatch servers. All votes are not needed, and you can choose only a few players in your opinion.

Myuki 21-Feb-20 07:38 AM

Joined the server.

Assa 21-Feb-20 10:02 AM

i am not in the list :C

:p

Trafalgar Law 21-Feb-20 10:02 AM

Yea me too!

Assa 21-Feb-20 10:02 AM

xD

where is tweef?

Trafalgar Law 21-Feb-20 10:03 AM

where is deku

Iman 21-Feb-20 12:22 PM

tweef is already a zc mod

btw u can apply for mod even if u're not in the list

Souly 21-Feb-20 01:11 PM

0.7 zc needs more mods

too many toxic people

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 01:14 PM

it needs more people that use their brain and vote those toxic people.

Yannick 21-Feb-20 01:15 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 01:15 PM

if they want a less toxic community. But currently we are trying to get some mods as my above suggestion seems not to be feasible. (edited)

Souly 21-Feb-20 01:32 PM

from what i saw most votes get passed because a lot of people dont vote

Dune 21-Feb-20 01:51 PM

Not voting is like voting no

Iman 21-Feb-20 04:08 PM

?

hum

no

Skayland 21-Feb-20 04:28 PM

No

Dune 21-Feb-20 04:28 PM

effectively it does the same thing?

Iman 21-Feb-20 04:35 PM

wdym ?

i don't understand

Not voting is like voting no

?

since voting isnt hidden, u can see if the no or the yes is "winning" imo many ppl vote "yes" bcs the "yes" is already strong so voting no can have an influence on other ppl vote

if someone voteban "Pipounet" reason given : Botting and 3/9 ppl press f3 and the vote lasts only a few secs so you don't have the time to spec Pipounet

multiple cases : 1 ppl vote yes without knowing and bcs other ppl vote yes 2 ppl vote no without knowing bcs other ppl vote no 3 ppl don't vote 4 ppl vote yes bcs they think Pipounet is botting (edited)

and imo

when there is more than 10 ppl in the same server

1 and 2 are the most common cases

three come right after

and 4 is a vote from people who think Pipounet is botting but don't really know what botting is, and thinks that ppl with good aim are botting (edited)

but indeed if people were totally aware of the reasons of the votes and the person who voted for that first AND if they wouldn't be influenced by the votes of everyone else then not voting would be the same thing than voting no but for the reasons i explained b4, imo most of the times not voting isnt equal to voting no

Dune 21-Feb-20 05:03 PM

so technically it does the same thing, with a bit of a psychological edge for voting no I guess

Iman 21-Feb-20 05:03 PM

yes

and about zcatch, most of the people who play it pretty often are a bit paranoid about botting so when there is many people in the same game who arent experienced enough to recognize botting or who just want the guy they try to voteban to leave for a reason or an other (edited)

this psychological thing about votes make sense

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 05:19 PM

@heinrich5991 / @Dune the banned server is still to be found in the server list.

Dune 21-Feb-20 05:24 PM

yeah it seems a master server doesn't refresh the banlist somehow

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 05:26 PM

there must be a god

x)

or satan

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:01 PM

is someone here familiar with Python? ://

Yes I know this is not the python fan club

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:01 PM

many people maybe

ask your question or look for a python discord

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:02 PM

good plan

Dune 21-Feb-20 06:02 PM

if it's not relevant to teeworlds, it's probably best asked on programming discords

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:03 PM

sentdex discord is great

https://discord.gg/9ngDwa

MrCosmo 21-Feb-20 06:03 PM

yeah it seems a master server doesn't refresh the banlist somehow

@Dune That's master2.

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:04 PM

offtopic channel :D?

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:05 PM

does someone know how to make a print statement go off only once ALL the iterations are done: for i,k in zip(a, b): StuFF haPPenInG

oookk I'll go to python discord server

Dune 21-Feb-20 06:06 PM

Thanks @MrCosmo

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:07 PM

you put that print statement either after your loop or within your loop inside an if condition block

that tests if you are at your last iteration of your loop

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:23 PM

I tried both :/

but how would that if condition block look like? The amount of iterations vary from time to time

so I can't write: if len(something) == something else: (edited)

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:25 PM

for i,k in zip(a,b): stuff happening print("blah")

?

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:25 PM

weird shit:/

that "blah" or "SIGNAL" happens before

Iman 21-Feb-20 06:26 PM

3

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:26 PM

I'm not working that often with python plots, so dunno and I don't know your data.

might be that you plat is being executed asynchronously i a different GUI thread

so

both threads of execution happen in parallel

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:28 PM

yes, that could be. That zip problably has multithreading...

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:28 PM

before exactly what does your stuff happen?

zip i snot multithreaded

the plotting might be

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:29 PM

before exactly what does your stuff happen?

@jxsl13 what u mean?

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:29 PM

you want signal to be printed when the plotting finishes?

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:29 PM

yes!

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:30 PM

I'd guess reading documentation about that plotting library might make sense

haven't worked with any plotting, so I don't know that much.

-> sentdex

Iman 21-Feb-20 06:31 PM

?

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:31 PM

eat the bug

xD

Iman 21-Feb-20 06:31 PM

nom

(edited)

done

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:32 PM

._.

Iman 21-Feb-20 06:32 PM

c:

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:32 PM

@jxsl13 yes, alright thank u

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 06:32 PM

tried my best, but cannot help

:'/

arisoda 21-Feb-20 06:46 PM

:'/

np dude

arisoda 21-Feb-20 07:41 PM

I have figured it out!

I had to add: plt.show()

it's a magical trick meant for desprate moments

jxsl13 21-Feb-20 07:46 PM

ah, nice, so show synchronizes the gui.

arisoda 21-Feb-20 08:29 PM

YES! well, I don't really get it, but it's solved:)

Souly 22-Feb-20 02:52 AM

2

ReiTW 22-Feb-20 10:28 AM

@arisoda there's a known discord server for that

where you can ask for different languages

C,C++,java,kotlin,rust,asm,etc..

could be useful for people who starts programming there, just ask me

Pash 22-Feb-20 11:32 AM

Joined the server.

LaboranTツ 22-Feb-20 11:35 AM

Joined the server.

https://discord.gg/NhaBwNN

arisoda 22-Feb-20 12:54 PM

could be useful for people who starts programming there, just ask me

@ReiTW perfect

ReiTW 22-Feb-20 12:54 PM

@LaboranTツ you know for publishing like this you could get banned from discord directly

LaboranTツ 22-Feb-20 01:11 PM

I need community (edited)

jxsl13 22-Feb-20 01:18 PM

u no get community

Ryozuki 22-Feb-20 01:19 PM

1

Trafalgar Law 22-Feb-20 01:19 PM

Well, I think no one will join, if you don't tell what you wan't to do and for what is this discord server

1

jxsl13 22-Feb-20 01:32 PM

is clan discord, not community discord

Assa 22-Feb-20 02:17 PM

@arisoda plt.show()

before print

arisoda 22-Feb-20 02:17 PM

that works, but then plt.savefig(directory) doesnt work anymore:/

Assa 22-Feb-20 02:17 PM

wtf?

then plt.savefig before plt.show?

and then print signal

arisoda 22-Feb-20 02:18 PM

I want plt.savefig in place of signal

but if I do plt.savefig before plt.show, it didnt work either. Wait I'll see what happens again

yes well, if I do plt.savefig before plt.show, then ofcourse it saves before plotting.

Look, what I want is, that it first plots, and then I want it to ask the question: "save fig?" -> if yes-> plt.savefig

Assa 22-Feb-20 02:31 PM

solved in pm

Jopperdepopper 22-Feb-20 07:54 PM

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Trafalgar Law 23-Feb-20 11:39 AM

https://i.imgur.com/K3db6ON.png What is going on here xD?

Only (connection)

ChillerDragon 23-Feb-20 11:51 AM

Looks like dummys

Trafalgar Law 23-Feb-20 11:55 AM

https://i.imgur.com/kIN4uZR.png

yea dummys

@Dune

Assa 23-Feb-20 12:10 PM

@Dune @heinrich5991 ban for false player count?

can't find the server anymore, maybe solved

Trafalgar Law 23-Feb-20 12:11 PM

Same

Trafalgar Law 23-Feb-20 12:28 PM

The srv is back

https://i.imgur.com/s4ezggJ.png

Deleted User 23-Feb-20 12:46 PM

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Dune 23-Feb-20 01:26 PM

I doubt they're maliciously faking, otherwise they wouldn't show a full server that you cannot join

(connecting) aren't dummies

ChillerDragon 23-Feb-20 02:34 PM

Something dummyish might not be official vanilla dummys

I call all of them dummys and the official ones I call dbg dummys

chest_keeper 23-Feb-20 04:08 PM

Joined the server.

fokkonaut 23-Feb-20 04:33 PM

me too

officials are dbg dummies xd

in my mod i even renamed the player var to DebugDummy xd

irgendwer aka ·_· 23-Feb-20 06:34 PM

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ABLE 24-Feb-20 01:12 AM

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LCPL Cat 24-Feb-20 02:24 PM

squart_1000 is sending invites to DMs @Dune

4

3

Dune 24-Feb-20 03:11 PM

ejected

Deleted User 24-Feb-20 04:05 PM

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Deleted User 24-Feb-20 05:28 PM

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jxsl13 24-Feb-20 05:50 PM

screenshot pls :0

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Trafalgar Law 24-Feb-20 08:59 PM

@Dune https://i.imgur.com/a4jVvxZ.png

He spamming again dummys

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:00 PM

@MrCosmo any update from master2?

MrCosmo 24-Feb-20 09:01 PM

@Dune issue has been fixed. Server is banned.

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:01 PM

great thanks

looking into that @Trafalgar Law

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:28 PM

connecting dummies and advertising them in the master is okay, you just need to add the flags for them, so that the client can hide them if the Hide Bots checkbox is activated

But, this server doesnt send the flag, so the ban is deserved, looking at BotCTF or my server, you can see that there are bots too, also advertised

in 0.7 only ofc!

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:32 PM

Yes, this is stated by the rules: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=rules/server_rules

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:36 PM

yes

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:40 PM

question is, are those even server side dummies?

Trafalgar Law 24-Feb-20 09:40 PM

Yea but there is no flag

I have hide bots

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:40 PM

if the server creator has any issue with this, he can contact us and we will solve it with him

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:41 PM

how do you know that?

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:42 PM

the dummies are gone anyway, tell me if it happens again @Trafalgar Law

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:44 PM

clans say not a dummy, seemingly indicating it not being server side dummies.

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:44 PM

I don't care, tag them with a flag so that the count of players reflect the count of humans

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:44 PM

i just saw him connecting the dummies and disconnecting, all at once

most likely server dummies

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:44 PM

nicknames seem fake, tho.

how to tag client side dummies?

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:45 PM

you cannot

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:45 PM

if it were those

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:45 PM

you can server side, when it's a mod

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:45 PM

also one could connect client side dummies in the same way.

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:45 PM

if it's a malicious attack, he can contact us about it

he left no contact info in the motd

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:45 PM

Mαtq#3467

its a little kid

i know him a bit from my server, hes playing there sometimes

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:46 PM

if he's playing with client side dummies, is he supposed to fiddle with the server side code ?

chiiler's dummy would fall under the same kind of treatment.

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:46 PM

we've already had those debates, I'm not going there again @jxsl13

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:47 PM

so would ddnet dummies

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:47 PM

yeah.

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:47 PM

well, ddnet dummies can maybe seen as a real 2nd client

because you can actually and do control it

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:48 PM

if one person connects with a multi client that has 32 such ddnet dummies (edited)

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:48 PM

64 dummy client

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:48 PM

please remove the link (edited)

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:49 PM

see no problem there, but ok

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:49 PM

is cheat

bot

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:49 PM

there is a botless version

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:49 PM

with zoom

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:49 PM

and regarding dummies: servers have max per ip

ddnet has zoom aswell

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:49 PM

if I'm not mistaken

zoom in an ingame way zoom way

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:49 PM

?

@Dune mean for even removing the msg containing the name xd

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:50 PM

don't advertise cheats please

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:50 PM

lol

i did not advertise it as a cheat, just stated out there is such a thing already

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:50 PM

I know your intent, but that's still advertising

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:51 PM

so cant we talk about any clients here that has some kind of "cheats" in it? ddnet has zoom, its cheat, it has dummy, its flood

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:51 PM

I think the ban should be done after clearly proofing that those are server side dummies.

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:51 PM

ddnet has no cheats as far as I know

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:51 PM

zoom?

aimline

dummy

hammerfly bot

copy move bot

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:52 PM

@jxsl13 no, there are a limit of ips per player

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:52 PM

clearly things that can help you, dune

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:52 PM

like @fokkonaut mentioned

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:52 PM

it's variable, ine could set that to 64?

one

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:52 PM

if you do, moderate your server properly

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:53 PM

i am not against ddnet client, i like it and used it all the time on 0.6, but just wanted to point a few things out :)

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:53 PM

that's not an argument

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:53 PM

@Dune setting max per ip to 64 is allowed

you cant do anything about it if an owner does so and then connects his 60 dummies

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:53 PM

if you do, moderate your server properly

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:53 PM

you dont have to

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:53 PM

if you connect 60 dummies, mod the server to flag them properly

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:54 PM

why? its client dummies

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:54 PM

As mentioned, someone might be fiddling around with client side dummies.

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:54 PM

@jxsl13 as said, i know that guy a bit, these are server dummies

Dune 24-Feb-20 09:54 PM

I don't care if they're client side or server side, if you try to fake player count like that you get blacklisted

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:54 PM

well, if you say they are server side dummies, he should flag them.

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:54 PM

its not stated in the rules, Dune

@jxsl13 yea

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:55 PM

that's restricting creativity, which you seem to valie highly.

Assa 24-Feb-20 09:55 PM

you can read it in the "fake player count section" of the blacklist

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:55 PM

value

but if server side, I'm fine, if not, I'm not fine.

Assa 24-Feb-20 09:55 PM

what, dummies aren't forbiden, how is it restricting creativity?

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:56 PM

someone testing their client side dummies.

might wanna have 64 dummies, tweaking them to work properly simultaniously.

Assa 24-Feb-20 09:56 PM

since i could test my client side dummies on any server and the server owner could ban me, I don't see the problem?

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:57 PM

there was a master ban for this

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:57 PM

yeah, if you tested your dummies on any random server and that server gets banned for faking player count

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:57 PM

which is correct in THIS case, because they are indeed server dummies which arent flagged, but in theory it could be client dummies

Assa 24-Feb-20 09:57 PM

but how do you detect this in the first case?

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:57 PM

what?

Assa 24-Feb-20 09:57 PM

client dummies

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:57 PM

you cant

Assa 24-Feb-20 09:58 PM

except "strange player behaviour"

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:58 PM

yea (edited)

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:58 PM

you don't that's why these bans are kind of without proof.

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:58 PM

thats the only way

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:58 PM

and might hit the wrong people

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:58 PM

yup

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:58 PM

shrinking the hoster- and possible playerbase.

Assa 24-Feb-20 09:59 PM

yes the dictator ship is strong here and bans are forever and false positives are common

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:59 PM

bans arent forever

not all

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:59 PM

they are?

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 09:59 PM

there were unbans already in the past

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 09:59 PM

well, I consider 10 years forever

Assa 24-Feb-20 09:59 PM

are you stupid? Do I really need a sarcasm sign?

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:00 PM

less flame pls. you seem not to understand the point.

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:00 PM

strong words assa

should get a ban

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:00 PM

go ahead ^^

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:00 PM

do i really need a sarcasm sign? :p

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:01 PM

:p

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:01 PM

:p

Trafalgar Law 24-Feb-20 10:01 PM

I love you all

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:01 PM

hi marius

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:01 PM

it's a theoretical discussion, it's good that fokko knows that those are server side bots. I think those bans should always be discussed properly. before hitting the wrong people.

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:01 PM

ahhhh

i dont know, but i dont think this guy does client side dummy stuff xd

so its pretty sure server dummies, but dont blame me if its wrong

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:03 PM

so the ban is based on assumptions then, which are based on one screenshot that shows a server full of "dummies"

nice

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:03 PM

maybe screenshot is faked too

xddd

Trafalgar Law 24-Feb-20 10:03 PM

Yea i fake screens

I have the time for that

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:03 PM

maybe reality is fake, and we are all living in a simulation

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:03 PM

let's fake Law's server being full of dummies

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:03 PM

it was a joke, everybody saw this server online already

@jxsl13 the best thing about this is that you can basically "master ban everybody's server" xd

Trafalgar Law 24-Feb-20 10:04 PM

Not if you make cl_max_clients_ip

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:04 PM

for example noby had a client which had some proxy stuff and he was able to connect 64 dummies to any server

^ law

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:04 PM

some social engineering and you have your way easily. (edited)

I mean, I make a screenshot of your server and edit the nicks to dummy names

don't need to actually join your server at all.

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:05 PM

just connect those proxy dummies to any server, someone will complain, admins will check the browser and if its not a server with contact in the motd, it gets banned, just because someone connected proxy dummies xd

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:06 PM

that's the problem, yeah, you usually have your max ips set to 2.

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:06 PM

yeah we should add a capcha to teeworlds to proof you are a human

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:06 PM

exactly

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:07 PM

but one can photoshop a random screenshot

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:07 PM

@jxsl13 is it 2 in vanilla? in ddrace it was 4, due to dummy

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:07 PM

I think it's 4, I usually go with 2

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:07 PM

ah okay

well i think 4 is best (edited)

just think of LAN parties D:

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:08 PM

LAN has no limit

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:08 PM

well, get 2 people that live like within 50km

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:08 PM

lan parties on online servers ofcourse

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:08 PM

so wan-parties?

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:08 PM

and if you wanna do an online lan party, what's the difference compared to everyone playing from home?

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:09 PM

Do you play league of legends against your mates on a lan party or do you play against another team?

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:09 PM

the amount of alcohol we drink togheter

what?

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:10 PM

the drugs you do?

what?

bad grownups :'( (edited)

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:10 PM

bad parents

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:10 PM

bad community

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:10 PM

bad popelz

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:11 PM

assa

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:11 PM

ass

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:11 PM

did you see what the SPD is trying?

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:11 PM

as

a

/\

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:11 PM

and they say I am the one on drugs ...

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:11 PM

XDDDDDDD

so you've heard about it

what do you think about it? xd

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:12 PM

and everyone agrees

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:12 PM

it's only a slight energy-drink addiction

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:12 PM

sleep compensation?

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:12 PM

i luckily got away from some of my addictions

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:12 PM

what is sleep?

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:12 PM

also energy drinks xdd

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:12 PM

not having such problems ._.

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:13 PM

lucky guy

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:13 PM

energy drinks fuck your teeth so badly.

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:13 PM

putting energy-drink in coffee-machine "The doctor's say it's a mystery why I can't sleep"

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:13 PM

a lot of stuff does jxsl

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:13 PM

at some point it gets disgusting

watch some star trek, that doesn't hurt your teeth, at least it should not. (edited)

1

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:15 PM

did you ever do something thats bad for your body?

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:15 PM

live

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:15 PM

xd

+ is fun

?

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:15 PM

live

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:15 PM

life isnt fun

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:16 PM

oh, sorry for your life.

x)

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:16 PM

:)

just sometimes

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:16 PM

my bad puns. while avoiding getting hit and laughing about them myself. (edited)

:0

Trafalgar Law 24-Feb-20 10:17 PM

I heared energy drink?

I love energy drink

I can't get enough

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:18 PM

kowalski, analysis

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:18 PM

kowalski: looks at his avatar

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:18 PM

xddd

Trafalgar Law 24-Feb-20 10:18 PM

https://tenor.com/view/bang-bangenergy-energy-gif-13613173

fokkonaut 24-Feb-20 10:18 PM

kowalski: addicted

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:19 PM

post your avatar scene, @Trafalgar Law

the gif

Trafalgar Law 24-Feb-20 10:19 PM

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-acadamia-deku-excited-head-desk-wiggling-gif-5497470

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:20 PM

kowalski: long term consequences of energy drinks, in one gif.

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:21 PM

watch some star trek, that doesn't hurt your teeth, at least it should not.

@jxsl13 I am exactly in this moment watching it

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:21 PM

tng?

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:21 PM

picard

i finished all other

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:21 PM

ah, k. tng is better.

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:21 PM

probably, but it's not finished yet

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:22 PM

gotta get used to the oldschool look

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:22 PM

but picard is already better then discovery

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:22 PM

well, tng is 170ish episodes

what :0 I disagree

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:22 PM

I disagree with your disagreement

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:22 PM

but it's like 5 episodes

so imma wait and see the development

liked discovery pretty much

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:24 PM

strangely i liked voyager pretty much, and iam happy to see 7 of 9 again

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:24 PM

the plot development is slow as hell with these new shows.

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:24 PM

y ...

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:24 PM

it's like one episode of the old ones in ine season.

one

(Y)

Assa 24-Feb-20 10:25 PM

what makes picard and discovery worse

jxsl13 24-Feb-20 10:27 PM

discovery was set in the same universe, but had kind of not much to do with the previous shows, picard tries to be better and more clever, but will likely fail hard. ._. but yeah. keep on watching :D as I also do that.

reserved 25-Feb-20 01:23 AM

Joined the server.

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 02:27 AM

wtf what is happening xD?

Why are so many joining

Fudgy 25-Feb-20 04:53 AM

bot spam

a gerdoe 25-Feb-20 09:08 AM

its a raid

ShootXen 25-Feb-20 11:19 AM

fucking hell

someone should ban them

sending you PMs (edited)

2

@magnet u here?

jxsl13 25-Feb-20 11:26 AM

send screenshots if you get random pms

so the admins can ban them immediatly. (edited)

teetow 25-Feb-20 11:35 AM

yeah imma disable PM:s from this sever now

ShootXen 25-Feb-20 11:47 AM

does only Dune have rights to ban/kick? (edited)

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:47 AM

no heinrich too

ShootXen 25-Feb-20 11:49 AM

included in the message

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:49 AM

lol

Souly 25-Feb-20 11:49 AM

its from this server?

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:49 AM

Pay it

Souly 25-Feb-20 11:49 AM

i trough its someone fron hypixel

ShootXen 25-Feb-20 11:50 AM

Souly 25-Feb-20 11:50 AM

as i was getting some of those pms when i joined

ShootXen 25-Feb-20 11:50 AM

straight up ban their accounts from discord (edited)

Souly 25-Feb-20 11:50 AM

ShootXen 25-Feb-20 11:50 AM

and that is what I will do now

gonna message discord support

Dune 25-Feb-20 12:01 PM

:/ report them please

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 12:01 PM

I got no messages

I want to buy this crazy shit

@Dune how about a welcome channel? So I can mute this

ShootXen 25-Feb-20 12:03 PM

Mute this channel

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 12:03 PM

No

Just annoying if someone spam with bots this channel

Dune 25-Feb-20 12:03 PM

Won't solve the PM problem

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 12:05 PM

But would make sense if you separate text & join messages

jxsl13 25-Feb-20 12:10 PM

teetow said disable pms from this channel

might work fine

Dune 25-Feb-20 12:15 PM

Server, not channel

Souly 25-Feb-20 12:30 PM

separate channel for join messages would be good

Dune 25-Feb-20 12:31 PM

the join messages are the least of the trouble there

they seem to flood people with PMs (though they never send me anything)

Souly 25-Feb-20 12:37 PM

maybe because you have admin/dev role

Dune 25-Feb-20 12:38 PM

surely yes

ShootXen 25-Feb-20 12:41 PM

well ony my fng discord I had a channel where everyone which joined the server got dumped in.

in that channel you could only see mods and admins

but not the rest of the users

Dune 25-Feb-20 12:41 PM

quarantine is an option yes

ShootXen 25-Feb-20 12:42 PM

I did that after vali released his shitty spambots

2018 or 2017

Dune 25-Feb-20 06:07 PM

Still banning bots as they come in, if this continues we'll have to enable phone verification for joining

jxsl13 25-Feb-20 06:14 PM

good old irc times.

x)

good new IRC TIMES!

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 06:15 PM

Dune or do a easy verification with a channel where you have to press a emote

and you get a role where you see all channels

jxsl13 25-Feb-20 06:15 PM

isn't that highly reliant on some bot that actually gives those roles

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 06:16 PM

yes

jxsl13 25-Feb-20 06:16 PM

well, kinda a minimal captcha system

hooman verification

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 06:17 PM

Well, a verification is important to stop that

jxsl13 25-Feb-20 06:17 PM

someone gotta host a bot for that purpose.

question is who and who's gonna configure/program the bot o

:0

I wonder if a bot can take over a full discord server.

if given too many rights

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 06:18 PM

They join with a discord invite or not? Is there any other option to join?

jxsl13 25-Feb-20 06:19 PM

they most likely do a bruteforce on that url, I'd guess or scrape websites

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 06:19 PM

Well, I thought you can change the invite link

jxsl13 25-Feb-20 06:19 PM

like we have a lot of random spambots on teeworlds.com

they might have scraped the website and found the discord invite links that chillerdragon posted.

cough

evil chilli >:0

most likely just tried random urls, as other teeworlds dc servers don't seem to have that problem

ChillerDragon 25-Feb-20 07:06 PM

1

Dune 25-Feb-20 10:58 PM

alright here we go

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:00 PM

What did you changed?

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:02 PM

server is in red mode and requires verified accounts to join (edited)

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:03 PM

Ah nice

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 11:28 PM

@Dune I believe you blocked everyone from sending chat messages

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:28 PM

ah, shucks

reverted it

seems like trafalgar was able to send messages (though)

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:29 PM

lul

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 11:29 PM

he has a role

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:29 PM

@Dune

Take it away and do it again

I want test it

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 11:29 PM

try now

PM me if you're done

ah

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:30 PM

Give me a sec

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:30 PM

looks good

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:30 PM

I verificate my mobile

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:30 PM

you're already able to send messages apparently

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 11:30 PM

I don't want to require people to give their phone number to discord

no, I reverted it, @Trafalgar Law wasn't able to

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:31 PM

yeah, makes sense

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:33 PM

I would do it like I said, do a welcome channel and you have to press smth or a other captcha and after this give a role like confirmed

idk

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 11:33 PM

yea, currently searching

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:41 PM

The most people say do the server to very high level, so they need two step auth, but thats not really the best solution

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:41 PM

forcing 2FA is not a great solution

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:42 PM

What about a the lowest level?

You need to verificate your E-Mail

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:43 PM

It's already the case, bots are email verified

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:44 PM

the fuck

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 11:44 PM

email verification isn't exactly rocket science

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:45 PM

Well Discord is so smart, this is just secure the text messages

They can still join

Thats the problem or not

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:46 PM

What?

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 11:46 PM

hm. perhaps they can't write messages in this server

after all, they didn't(?)

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:46 PM

But they don't write anything here

They just joined

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:47 PM

they don't want to be banned too fast, so they PM

I guess

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:47 PM

So you can disable writing pms?

Dune 25-Feb-20 11:47 PM

we can make them not see the member list

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 11:47 PM

PMs and server messages are the same security level according to the text next to the security level

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:51 PM

But seems like it stopped or not?

heinrich5991 25-Feb-20 11:51 PM

shrug (edited)

Trafalgar Law 25-Feb-20 11:51 PM

But thats a big issues at discord lol

So many threads about Spams but no solutions

heinrich5991 26-Feb-20 12:05 AM

@Dune you just banned my bot ^^

Dune 26-Feb-20 12:05 AM

oh, sorry

Trafalgar Law 26-Feb-20 12:05 AM

xddd

bigTeamplay

Dune 26-Feb-20 12:05 AM

I banned a few dozens of new users with a mention to contact me if they're human, no other way to distinguish :/

Teeworlds BOT 26-Feb-20 12:06 AM

Joined the server.

2

heinrich5991 26-Feb-20 12:28 AM

not so fast, setting it up

@Trafalgar Law

Trafalgar Law 26-Feb-20 12:28 AM

Well i take it back

heinrich5991 26-Feb-20 12:31 AM

@Trafalgar Law can you write here now? and if you react to the message?

Trafalgar Law 26-Feb-20 12:31 AM

I can without write here

heinrich5991 26-Feb-20 12:32 AM

have you registered your phone number now? ^^

Trafalgar Law 26-Feb-20 12:32 AM

No

But I can do

Give me a sec

heinrich5991 26-Feb-20 12:32 AM

no

try again

needed to remove the role

hm

apparently you can't hide the member list of a discord server

just out of interest, @Trafalgar Law, can you react to the message now?

Trafalgar Law 26-Feb-20 12:38 AM

yea

heinrich5991 26-Feb-20 12:38 AM

role assignment works

Deleted User 26-Feb-20 12:46 AM

Joined the server.

heinrich5991 26-Feb-20 12:49 AM

@Trafalgar Law can you check whether you can toggle visibility of #entrance with the reaction?

Trafalgar Law 26-Feb-20 12:49 AM

works great

heinrich5991 26-Feb-20 01:33 AM

@Dune everyone old has the role now

Dune 26-Feb-20 01:33 AM

thanks

you make me feel old

heinrich5991 26-Feb-20 01:34 AM

PLAIN 26-Feb-20 01:46 AM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 26-Feb-20 01:49 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 26-Feb-20 01:50 AM

here is the test, @heinrich5991

davide098 26-Feb-20 05:12 AM

Joined the server.

1

xfuzzyminerx 26-Feb-20 12:05 PM

Joined the server.

1

Deleted User 26-Feb-20 12:29 PM

Joined the server.

1

Joined the server.

1

jxsl13 26-Feb-20 12:46 PM

so many bots

Deleted User 26-Feb-20 12:54 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 26-Feb-20 01:11 PM

As long as they don't pm it's okay

jxsl13 26-Feb-20 01:12 PM

I hope they leave when they "realize" that pms don't work. (edited)

Souly 26-Feb-20 02:55 PM

2

a gerdoe 26-Feb-20 03:48 PM

@sondreo1 isnt bot. i think...

jxsl13 26-Feb-20 04:39 PM

you are right, @a gerdoe , he has a profile pic

and you have a cat

a gerdoe 26-Feb-20 04:40 PM

yeh

Dune 26-Feb-20 04:41 PM

most bots have a profile pic

jxsl13 26-Feb-20 04:42 PM

A proper pic? (edited)

I don't mean those default ones

Dune 26-Feb-20 04:42 PM

yes

jxsl13 26-Feb-20 04:43 PM

haven't looked at them until now :'/

Arseniy Zarche 26-Feb-20 06:13 PM

sorry guys but hello russki

https://youtu.be/5_6ohAf-Ky8

Arseniy Zarche

Golfстрим - тёплый и ламповый

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Souly 26-Feb-20 06:13 PM

cyka blyat

1

Assa 26-Feb-20 06:55 PM

vodka intensifies

Trafalgar Law 26-Feb-20 09:26 PM

@Arseniy Zarche https://youtu.be/5_6ohAf-Ky8?t=1735 Take your video off

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You show ips

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-patrick-stewart-captain-jean-luc-picard-face-palm-disappointed-gif-4780258

Arseniy Zarche 26-Feb-20 09:59 PM

you can invite everybody to your server then just see his ip

and

this stream isn't saved as video

and what do you mean when you say "take your video off"

Trafalgar Law 26-Feb-20 10:04 PM

But its not the idea to show public ips others

Arseniy Zarche 26-Feb-20 10:06 PM

sorry

my ip is there too

then justice triumphed

Trafalgar Law 26-Feb-20 10:11 PM

But I'm sure the others don't want there ip public

jxsl13 26-Feb-20 10:12 PM

you can get sued for showing ips in europe, as they are considered personal information. is not good practice.

a gerdoe 26-Feb-20 11:32 PM

at some days we consdered about personal data behind ip

and

only provider name and address

but maybe ita only in my country

for full information by ip we can go to police

ReiTW 27-Feb-20 08:57 AM

@a gerdoe with just a single IP you can get a lot

a gerdoe 27-Feb-20 09:00 AM

for example?

ReiTW 27-Feb-20 09:03 AM

these days, a lot of people tries to dox others & save it in a big database. Generally they sell it on the darknet. A lot of people with static IP who already met a guy who just gather a lot of informations may have risks of having his private data on the net

@a gerdoe and this can be: email, phone number, address, etc.

also when a big company with user accounts that have been stolen after a giant attack, that's the same, some company also store the IP of the user

a gerdoe 27-Feb-20 09:04 AM

thanks

Assa 28-Feb-20 12:39 AM

assa mad

assa tired

assa does a mad sleep

jxsl13 28-Feb-20 12:42 AM

assa cannot sleep, energy drink kicks in

Trafalgar Law 28-Feb-20 01:03 AM

:mad.

сайолайтик 28-Feb-20 07:16 AM

you cannot sleep now, there are monsters nearby

ShootXen 28-Feb-20 08:58 AM

to get back to the vid. he lives in russian or somewhere I assume, so he can't be sued

other than that, there should be an option in the settings to enable show ips in the client settings for rcon (edited)

becasue we all know, dont feed our really beloved community members

(edited)

ReiTW 28-Feb-20 09:38 AM

@ShootXen no

you stream, you just be careful

ShootXen 28-Feb-20 09:39 AM

Sorry but no

ReiTW 28-Feb-20 09:39 AM

stream or make a vid

same

ShootXen 28-Feb-20 09:39 AM

This community has lots of nobrainers

ReiTW 28-Feb-20 09:41 AM

adding such a shitty option for rcon is like supporting irc chat on skype for example

no sense + useless

jxsl13 28-Feb-20 12:26 PM

supporting irc on discord :0 (edited)

ShootXen 28-Feb-20 12:32 PM

@Dune ._. (edited)

DO SOMETHING

fokin hell

jxsl13 28-Feb-20 12:33 PM

Same here

ShootXen 28-Feb-20 12:34 PM

get a bot here for roles

jxsl13 28-Feb-20 12:34 PM

just in a drpepper red

ShootXen 28-Feb-20 12:34 PM

haha

Dune 28-Feb-20 12:43 PM

there is already a bot here for roles, thanks to @heinrich5991

I'm surprised he could message you

Are you sure this isn't from another server?

jxsl13 28-Feb-20 12:44 PM

maybe joined early

Dune 28-Feb-20 12:44 PM

No, he joined just now

This is a global discord problem, not specific to Teeworlds

We have a quarantine channel and he did not get out of it. Do you share other servers with this bot, @ShootXen

ShootXen 28-Feb-20 12:48 PM

no

Tonixe 28-Feb-20 10:24 PM

I want a teeworlds xD emoji ! ;)

Highest priority

2

1

Souly 28-Feb-20 11:31 PM

i want

instead of

TsFreddie 29-Feb-20 12:33 AM

Dune 29-Feb-20 12:36 AM

@TsFreddie thanks for the translations

TsFreddie 29-Feb-20 12:37 AM

np

jxsl13 29-Feb-20 12:42 AM

oof, it's him

make teeworlds great in china again

TsFreddie 29-Feb-20 12:51 AM

jxsl13 29-Feb-20 01:06 AM

Is great already ._.? (edited)

TsFreddie 29-Feb-20 01:20 AM

i have no idea, haven't actually been involved with chinese community for ages.

jxsl13 29-Feb-20 01:21 AM

ok :'(

Assa 29-Feb-20 03:15 PM

if you want teeworlds in china you should remove the one "skull" image

Trafalgar Law 29-Feb-20 03:15 PM

Why

Assa 29-Feb-20 03:17 PM

question to difficult, google it

a gerdoe 29-Feb-20 04:16 PM

;d

heinrich5991 29-Feb-20 05:33 PM

@ShootXen @jxsl13 you can disable PMs from people who are only on the same server as you are

jxsl13 29-Feb-20 05:34 PM

is illegal, I'm looking out for bots to get them banned.

:feelsamaze:

heinrich5991 29-Feb-20 05:34 PM

Privacy and Safety → untick Allow private messages from server members.

what do you mean, "illegal"?

jxsl13 29-Feb-20 05:35 PM

it's a general term for: no :D

._. death to bots and scam.

ShootXen 29-Feb-20 05:38 PM

Not suitable for me @heinrich5991

If I would do that, my friendlist would be by 500+

jxsl13 29-Feb-20 05:40 PM

:friends_amaze:

:too_poor4nitro_uses_imaginary_emotes:

TsFreddie 29-Feb-20 07:58 PM

question to difficult, google it

@Assa it's not a published commercial product, it's fine. Worst case they'll block teeworlds.com and the pollute related DNS., But I

they care enough for a 300 people community.

a gerdoe 29-Feb-20 09:48 PM

:D

Assa 01-Mar-20 11:51 AM

@TsFreddie since teeworlds is in the steam shop, maybe some random algorithm will stumble across it

Deleted User 01-Mar-20 07:58 PM

Hi guys

a gerdoe 01-Mar-20 08:34 PM

неу

TsFreddie 01-Mar-20 09:02 PM

a gerdoe 02-Mar-20 07:40 PM

what "teehistorian" means

heinrich5991 02-Mar-20 07:42 PM

ddnet has a smaller form of demos

it's called teehistorian, it only saves player input so you could theoretically™ replay the whole match

Trafalgar Law 02-Mar-20 07:47 PM

Anyone here who know how skins works? Not to get into teeworlds, I mean create a skin

a gerdoe 02-Mar-20 07:48 PM

1 sec

like this?

or 0.7?..

Trafalgar Law 02-Mar-20 07:49 PM

0.7 (edited)

a gerdoe 02-Mar-20 07:49 PM

aww shiet

Trafalgar Law 02-Mar-20 07:49 PM

I have enough skins for 0.6

I want a skin from 0.6 but if i convert it to 0.7 its to big

Its not the same

a gerdoe 02-Mar-20 07:50 PM

i dont know... so

who is author of new skin-templates?

Iman 02-Mar-20 08:35 PM

"theoricallytm"

such a wonderful word

ShootXen 02-Mar-20 09:29 PM

Converted it with the script?

Souly 03-Mar-20 11:47 AM

someone should make grids for 0.7 skins

would be useful

Dune 03-Mar-20 11:49 AM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2271 @Souly

Secondary Skin file format · Issue #2271 · teeworlds/teeworlds

0.7 introduced a new skin system, separating each body part to allow deeper customisation by combining them. This was a good decision I think, and most players love it. The other day, @iTzMeRafa pu...

Souly 03-Mar-20 11:53 AM

Trafalgar Law 03-Mar-20 12:06 PM

@Dune it would be awesome if there a Option to use the same skin Format as 0.6. I mean there are Skins which not work anymore in 0.7

Not Sure why only 0.7 skin Format should work

Dune 03-Mar-20 12:06 PM

That would not fix the compatibility problem, only make it easier to share

Skins in 0.7 work and look different, you can't have both coexist

rdr 03-Mar-20 03:55 PM

hi

can we give me link to game.png on teeworld

Dune 03-Mar-20 04:30 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/master/datasrc/game.png @rdr (edited)

https://youtu.be/XFCI8DgdcsM

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

a gerdoe 03-Mar-20 05:32 PM

:D

1

ShootXen 04-Mar-20 01:05 PM

someone cares for skin actually ._.

Leniva Cream - Remove Dark Circles & Softens The Skin^

well that spam is a good one with it's headline (edited)

Arseniy Zarche 04-Mar-20 05:06 PM

fuckin russki makes a stream maybe someone russians will enjoy

1

Arseniy Zarche

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1

a gerdoe 04-Mar-20 05:12 PM

xd

Deleted User 04-Mar-20 05:27 PM

Intothenight map looks pretty

Trafalgar Law 04-Mar-20 09:21 PM

https://skribbl.io/?FhXtVTb8J6 (German players)

skribbl.io - Free Multiplayer Drawing & Guessing Game

Skribbl.io a free multiplayer drawing and guessing game. Draw and guess words with your friends and people all around the world! Score the most points and be the winner!

Iman 04-Mar-20 09:22 PM

achtung kartoffeln

1

PeXi 05-Mar-20 12:12 AM

Ey Teini

Deleted User 05-Mar-20 01:25 AM

@Trafalgar Law Scribbl.io is good game (edited)

a gerdoe 05-Mar-20 07:43 PM

@jxsl13 do u have some reason to write clan in log?

i think it isnt so important (edited)

jxsl13 05-Mar-20 07:48 PM

I'm having a state machine that represents the server state of the players currently playing.

when executing the status command, I retrieve data from the server state, not the actual server

a gerdoe 05-Mar-20 07:51 PM

but

anyway

why do u need player's clan

jxsl13 05-Mar-20 08:04 PM

to show it with the status command.

a gerdoe 05-Mar-20 08:15 PM

eh...

jxsl13 05-Mar-20 08:16 PM

in discord

a gerdoe 05-Mar-20 08:17 PM

now its understandable

but its important for ur server

jxsl13 05-Mar-20 08:20 PM

might improve player identification in log files.

if they use the same nickname, but have different clans and one of them is doing bad stuff, whatever that might be.

but main goal is to represent the players currently playing by simply parsing the logs/econ

a gerdoe 05-Mar-20 08:26 PM

sorry for stupid questions

just want to know

jxsl13 05-Mar-20 08:28 PM

np, might have explained not precisely enough

a gerdoe 05-Mar-20 09:24 PM

@jxsl13 trolled

eh...

jxsl13 05-Mar-20 09:30 PM

:dedpepe:

Souly 06-Mar-20 12:32 PM

:dedpepe:

a gerdoe 06-Mar-20 12:41 PM

Assa 06-Mar-20 02:08 PM

@jason54 your Catch64 has horrible settings

2

jxsl13 06-Mar-20 02:23 PM

Blackpast bad.

1

jason54 06-Mar-20 07:32 PM

Ok @jxsl13

@Assa for the moment it's drakly who manages the servers

Deleted User 06-Mar-20 10:43 PM

teeworlds but every weapon has recoil

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 07-Mar-20 04:24 AM

@Deleted User That would ruined the game xD

so many mods have to be rewritten for it

nah that aint it chief

Assa 07-Mar-20 10:20 AM

Teeworlds needs a halo mod as standard gametype

Iman 07-Mar-20 10:23 AM

with aliens and E.Tees

fokkonaut 07-Mar-20 11:28 AM

@jason54 Could you take down the server? Would be cool, as you can see it doesnt even bring you players, as they want their accounts, which are stored on my server.

ReiTW 07-Mar-20 11:55 AM

@fokkonaut why would he take it down

let him have his server lol

fokkonaut 07-Mar-20 11:56 AM

I know he doesnt have to, but I just asked because its kinda weird because he has the same map and always tries to steal other stuff

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 12:44 PM

fokko, are you german?

Trafalgar Law 07-Mar-20 12:44 PM

yea he is

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 12:44 PM

and jason, are you german?

Trafalgar Law 07-Mar-20 12:44 PM

no he is not

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 12:44 PM

who is jason?

europe-man asia-man?

Trafalgar Law 07-Mar-20 12:45 PM

Is it important xD?

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 12:46 PM

yeah

at the another country german server isnt good at ping

for my hehe

if he want to make servers for co-countriers

or same shit

he can host

else

he is shitty dumbass

Trafalgar Law 07-Mar-20 12:48 PM

he comes from france

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 12:48 PM

close server nobo @jason54

Trafalgar Law 07-Mar-20 12:48 PM

Both servers are in france

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 12:50 PM

close server nobo @jason54 x2 (edited)

Dune 07-Mar-20 12:57 PM

Don't spam please

Trafalgar Law 07-Mar-20 12:57 PM

Good morning @Dune

Dune 07-Mar-20 12:58 PM

Cheers, deli

Assa 07-Mar-20 02:19 PM

let him have his empty server lol

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 02:47 PM

;d

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:15 PM

eh

can someone explain me that how teeworlds map-using working

?

or reference code

ah okey

Dune 07-Mar-20 06:18 PM

I don't know what you are talking about

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:19 PM

server using map for make collision or something

can we change map's tiles in real-time? (edited)

my english is bad i cant say it normally (edited)

Dune 07-Mar-20 06:23 PM

server cannot change the map in real time, no

you can't have moving platforms etc. (or you'd get prediction errors)

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:23 PM

server cannot change the map in real time, no

reason?

map array is constant, isnt it? (edited)

Dune 07-Mar-20 06:27 PM

you'd get prediction errors

clients can't get map updates

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:27 PM

but we can send it to the clients

no?

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:28 PM

no. as it needs a protocol change

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:29 PM

eh

my plans crashed at moment

Dune 07-Mar-20 06:30 PM

no, you'd need to redownload the map

not something you can do with the standard Teeworlds client

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:30 PM

Minetee

Dune 07-Mar-20 06:30 PM

it's not far fetched to make it work with a modification of it, though

probably has already been done for specific applications

but then again, you need client modifications

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:31 PM

i think we can send to the client 1 change

if it needs

not all map (edited)

Dune 07-Mar-20 06:32 PM

yes

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:32 PM

you can do anything you want, but it will not be compatible with any teeworlds client other than your own. (edited)

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:32 PM

thats it

anyway i must renew standart client

like that ninja mod (edited)

ninslash huh

Dune 07-Mar-20 06:33 PM

mods that require client modifications are less accessible and usually not popular

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:33 PM

yeah. There is also a minecraft mod that does exactly what you explain.

but nobody plays it, as it requires a specific client.

vanolla compatibility is rather important for players to play your modification.

vanilla

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:35 PM

i make that mod for my c++ and programming skills

at the summer

minecraft mod isnt stable

so laggy

nodes mod is good

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:36 PM

nodes, good mod

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:36 PM

me with my friends/clans/etc always play it on days

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:36 PM

great mod

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:37 PM

where is map part?

at the code

Dune 07-Mar-20 06:38 PM

we can't do that for you

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:42 PM

the map code doesn't seem straight forward. took a short look at it.

datafile in combination with other classes, I guess.

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:46 PM

i will look up it myself

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:48 PM

don't forget to feed your cat before you go down the rabbit hole.

you might never come back

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:49 PM

i came back at the last summer

that rabbit hole have pretty good smell (edited)

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:49 PM

:D how many months did you go missing?

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:50 PM

4 months with quantum

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:51 PM

poor cat.

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:51 PM

:D

cats

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:51 PM

I only care about satan mother cat that eats souls >:D

a gerdoe 07-Mar-20 06:52 PM

holy shit

jxsl13 07-Mar-20 06:52 PM

feed it some souls before you take another look at teeworlds code :D

Souly 07-Mar-20 07:11 PM

ReiTW 07-Mar-20 07:59 PM

@ChillerDragon s/foo/bar/xg you could look at vim syntax it's exactly the same

vim doc

not rly the same but similar af

ReiTW 08-Mar-20 02:33 PM

@Dune

91.218.67.137:8303 0.6

heinrich5991 08-Mar-20 02:43 PM

can one join the server?

it looks full

ReiTW 08-Mar-20 02:46 PM

their name changes

it's full of bots

server side

heinrich5991 09-Mar-20 04:32 AM

can one join the server? @ReiTW

ReiTW 09-Mar-20 08:08 AM

@heinrich5991 tbh idk because the server dissapeared 5min after

Deleted User 09-Mar-20 10:39 AM

Is it possible to display your tee's current coordinates ingame in the HUD?

a gerdoe 09-Mar-20 10:44 AM

debug mode

Deleted User 09-Mar-20 11:18 AM

How do I enter debug Mode? Thanks for the answer

jxsl13 09-Mar-20 11:22 AM

ctrl + shift + d

Deleted User 09-Mar-20 11:23 AM

Thanks

fokkonaut 09-Mar-20 12:35 PM

español lessons

Iman 09-Mar-20 12:36 PM

me gusta los churros

fokkonaut 09-Mar-20 12:36 PM

What is churros xd

Iman 09-Mar-20 12:37 PM

food

spanish food

fokkonaut 09-Mar-20 12:37 PM

just saw xd

jxsl13 09-Mar-20 12:40 PM

me gustanlos.

Iman 09-Mar-20 12:42 PM

its gustan ?

i think ive already said "me gusta los churros" a few times and u already corrected me jxsl13 x)

i'll never learn

jxsl13 09-Mar-20 01:12 PM

my spanish is the basic of the basic :0.

Iman 09-Mar-20 01:15 PM

me llamo Iman

Souly 09-Mar-20 03:45 PM

hola

fokkonaut 09-Mar-20 08:40 PM

I just released the first version of my Teeworlds 0.7 client, F-Client. Check out the page for a list of features and the download link. https://fokkonaut.github.io/F-Client/

2

a gerdoe 09-Mar-20 10:23 PM

new update of f-client guus

fokkonaut 09-Mar-20 10:24 PM

yea, fixed download links

and 2 small hotfixes

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:03 AM

@noby bot ⏫

noby 10-Mar-20 11:04 AM

lol

i told him already in ddnet #dev

he doesnt care

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:06 AM

ddnet7 sucks

Trafalgar Law 10-Mar-20 11:06 AM

U

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:06 AM

they better should kill it & stay on 0.6

Trafalgar Law 10-Mar-20 11:06 AM

Ok cool story

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:06 AM

u rq

Trafalgar Law 10-Mar-20 11:07 AM

?

Iman 10-Mar-20 11:07 AM

keep playing on 0.6, tw commu wont miss u @ReiTW :)

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:08 AM

@Iman well sure, afterall 0.7 is not that good also. But well, we'll see =))

Trafalgar Law 10-Mar-20 11:08 AM

Hater

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:09 AM

no, it is just bad

Trafalgar Law 10-Mar-20 11:10 AM

What is bad

Iman 10-Mar-20 11:10 AM

"physics change"

XDDDD

"ddnet not on 0.7"

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:11 AM

the way they just "destroy" the browser list, by having so many servers

Hope someone will just attack them o 0.7

idc about 0.6

Iman 10-Mar-20 11:13 AM

new arguments wow

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:14 AM

you don't have any so (edited)

Iman 10-Mar-20 11:15 AM

wdym by

the way they just "destroy" the browser list, by having so many servers

@ReiTW ?

too ,many servers ?

is that an issue for u ?

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:16 AM

@Iman people just see so much ddnet, without ddnet, it would give more advantages to people who wants to create new mods

so

I just hope (edited)

Iman 10-Mar-20 11:17 AM

it's 0.6

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:17 AM

someone attacks ddnet7

Iman 10-Mar-20 11:17 AM

ohhhhh

srry a mistake from me i tought we were talking about tw 0.6 and 0.7 not about ddnet7

then ur right sry

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 11:19 AM

no

0.6 is already dead

idc about 0.6, even if I host on it

Iman 10-Mar-20 11:23 AM

im sorry for being agressive with you @ReiTW , i didnt understood the point of the discussion and i tought u were arguing that tw 0.6 was better than tw 0.7

noby 10-Mar-20 12:04 PM

i personally prefer 0.6 over 0.7

its where my most popular server is + where i actualy play + can enjoy it with antiping

i live in usa and ive never played without antiping :X

Trafalgar Law 10-Mar-20 12:05 PM

Share your antiping

noby 10-Mar-20 12:05 PM

its better than nothing but its not as good as 0.6

it was just an experiment in copy-pasting

Trafalgar Law 10-Mar-20 12:06 PM

You could Help 0.7 with thar

That

^^

noby 10-Mar-20 12:06 PM

i cant even change the damn screen resolution

i cant see what i type in chat

its max size no matter what i do

very annoying

someone already made an issue about it on github

and 0;7 makes my fans spin like crazy but 0.6 doesnt so im not too excited about helping even more players leave the version i currently prefer playing

jxsl13 10-Mar-20 12:15 PM

just turn those fans off.

problem solved

noby 10-Mar-20 12:17 PM

then my computer will die

jxsl13 10-Mar-20 12:21 PM

problem solved

xD

noby 10-Mar-20 12:26 PM

no it is not solved

@jxsl13 because i will find another computer and come back to complain more

jxsl13 10-Mar-20 12:40 PM

damn. turn off your fan?

._.

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 12:46 PM

@noby this is because you have a macbook

shit computer :v)

Penguin 10-Mar-20 02:18 PM

Use Ubuntu instead

jxsl13 10-Mar-20 02:24 PM

use macOS 10.11 instead

noby 10-Mar-20 02:36 PM

but

its teeworlds

it should be able to run easily on any modern hardware no matter how shitty

its a 2d game from fifteen years ago

if it makes the fans spin hard then somethings wrong

jxsl13 10-Mar-20 02:43 PM

Louis Rossmann also loves fan spin.

ReiTW 10-Mar-20 02:59 PM

use FreeBSD instead

a gerdoe 10-Mar-20 03:01 PM

use shitOS instead

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:43 PM

@noby which fan? getting 100% CPU?

heinrich5991 10-Mar-20 03:44 PM

e.g. the job queue hogs cpu unnecessarily

noby 10-Mar-20 03:44 PM

i assume it uses more cpu

since i play on a macbook and i dont have a gpu

redix 10-Mar-20 03:44 PM

the main loop just runs non-stop. so it will use 100% of one core

noby 10-Mar-20 03:45 PM

on 0.6 there is some waiting integratedinto the main loop so that it doesnt do that right?

redix 10-Mar-20 03:45 PM

for ddnet yes. but today it's disabled by default

noby 10-Mar-20 03:45 PM

im playing tw with ddnet version 10 always

redix 10-Mar-20 03:45 PM

cl_refresh_rate i think

noby 10-Mar-20 03:45 PM

the new ddnet lags me

0.7 lags me even more

vanilla is fine but no antiping (edited)

yeah i could mess with the refresh rate/ gfx refresh rate

but the fact that i cant see what i type in chat is really frustrating

heinrich5991 10-Mar-20 03:47 PM

os for reference pls

noby 10-Mar-20 03:47 PM

\

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:47 PM

@redix cl_cpu_throttle though?

noby 10-Mar-20 03:48 PM

cpu throttle def helps

but then the fps is lower than i can get with .6

redix 10-Mar-20 03:48 PM

ah yeah. forgot about that

noby 10-Mar-20 03:48 PM

its much more playable with this slightly lower fps

but since ddnet can do high fps and no fans spinning

i feel like there must be a solution for 0.7 to do the same

redix 10-Mar-20 03:49 PM

does your client have cl_refresh_rate ?

noby 10-Mar-20 03:49 PM

ues

wait

redix 10-Mar-20 03:49 PM

what value is it?

noby 10-Mar-20 03:49 PM

06 or 07

redix 10-Mar-20 03:49 PM

0.6 ddnet

noby 10-Mar-20 03:49 PM

no

wait

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:49 PM

how many fps do you cap at? how many fps do you want?

noby 10-Mar-20 03:49 PM

480

is cl_refresh_rate on 0.6 ddnet

redix 10-Mar-20 03:50 PM

ah yeah that was the old default

noby 10-Mar-20 03:50 PM

and same for gfx_refresh_rate

redix 10-Mar-20 03:50 PM

so it limits fps and gameloop runs per second to 480

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:50 PM

how many fps do you cap at on 0.7 with cpu_throttle* ?

noby 10-Mar-20 03:50 PM

actually about the same huh

but my fans spin abit more

my fans have been spinning all night cus im running sum scripts on my laptop so this isnt a good test

hmm

ill pause stuff

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:53 PM

@LordSk introduced _mm_pause with the 0.7 limitfps feature, but I'm not sure it actually works on macbooks?

noby 10-Mar-20 03:53 PM

what does cpu throttle do

it does seem to help this problem alot

heinrich5991 10-Mar-20 03:53 PM

sleep(1ms) (edited)

noby 10-Mar-20 03:53 PM

i need to restart the computer and pause even more stuff and probably free up some disk space to do a real test but it does help

heinrich5991 10-Mar-20 03:54 PM

_mm_pause is used incorrectly there

it's not giving up the os's cpu slice

is it still in the code?

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:54 PM

should be

heinrich5991 10-Mar-20 03:55 PM

ah, apparently

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:56 PM

there is even a bam config thing to check if the system supports SSE2 iirc

heinrich5991 10-Mar-20 03:56 PM

unnecessary complexity for using a feature that isn't intended for this purpose :/

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:57 PM

I don't know much about it, it seemed to do the job

heinrich5991 10-Mar-20 03:57 PM

and it only works on intel cpus; arm is a thing

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:58 PM

Yeah, that's why there's the check

noby's macbook is definitely intel though

heinrich5991 10-Mar-20 03:58 PM

yes. but now there's nothing similar happening on arm

ye

Dune 10-Mar-20 03:58 PM

so what do games do, sleep?

heinrich5991 10-Mar-20 04:10 PM

ddnet sleeps

calculating the time it should sleep by checking how much time is left each tick

Dune 10-Mar-20 04:11 PM

ah, ok

fokkonaut 10-Mar-20 07:22 PM

Some players

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jxsl13 10-Mar-20 08:18 PM

far from full!

might test the server info pull request.

fokkonaut 10-Mar-20 08:28 PM

i have serverside dummies, can do it using them

64 tees, all name and client as many big i's as possible

without pr

heinrich5991 11-Mar-20 09:13 PM

@LaboranTツ can you at least tell us what your server is about?

LaboranTツ 11-Mar-20 09:17 PM

This it my TW Clan

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:20 PM

Guys anyone here who can do greyfox for 0.7?

I mean not bigAF

The normal version

@LordSk you :3?

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:24 PM

please remove that invite.

heinrich5991 11-Mar-20 09:24 PM

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:25 PM

Why ^^?

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:25 PM

that's why

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:26 PM

Its a free world !! D:

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:26 PM

then be free somewhere else.

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:26 PM

xd

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:27 PM

@Trafalgar Law didn't I already do that last time?

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:27 PM

I mean the greyfox from 0.6

Wait let me send a screen

https://i.imgur.com/BoG3tWk.png

And thats your skin

Its not the same

We all miss the skin of 0.6

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:29 PM

oh ok i see

isn't whis on this discord though?

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:30 PM

He has the skin, but he wan't not share it

and he leaved

or smth

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:30 PM

is that even the real whis.

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:30 PM

you could ask him, whatever I'll do will lose some quality since I don't have the original svg

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:30 PM

Could you try it :/ ?

If I convert it

The skin is massiv big

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:31 PM

there are svg tracers online.

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:31 PM

sure I'll do what I did last time

when I find the time

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:32 PM

Thanks buddy

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:32 PM

@jxsl13 are they good?

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:32 PM

well, they create tons of layers, but the tracing is good.

but as you know, it can't create more information than what is in the image already.

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:34 PM

do they handle curves well?

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:34 PM

I tried this one: https://www.vectorizer.io/

Online Image Vectorizer

Online raster to vector converter. Convert your images (jpeg, jpg or png) into scalable and clear vector art (svg)

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:34 PM

interesting

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:35 PM

well, they do a pretty good job, I didn't use it much, just on some rather low quality image. I think the result was pretty good. those images were rather colorful with different color gradients. (edited)

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:39 PM

hmmm not that great

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:39 PM

well

ye

outline is pretty bad

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:40 PM

I'm sure it works better on higher quality images

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:40 PM

yeah

is that skin there actually the original resolution?

quite pixelated, it seems

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:41 PM

I have it from ddnet.tw

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:41 PM

yeah you're right actually

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:42 PM

https://ddnet.tw/skins/skin/greyfox.png

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:42 PM

do you have the link @Trafalgar Law ?

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:42 PM

could be a preview image?

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:42 PM

nice

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:42 PM

still pixelated.

Dune 11-Mar-20 09:42 PM

gotta make a better script

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:43 PM

another extension task for my twapi >:D

maybe

x)

LordSk 11-Mar-20 09:43 PM

nope, same size (256 x 128)

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:44 PM

that's kinda too small for even being a 0.6 skin 0o?

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:45 PM

https://ddnet.tw/skins/index.php?search=Greyfox

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:46 PM

skins were really that small

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:56 PM

old skins have 72 dpi, new ones 90 dpi

also the body "part" has already twice the pixels the full 0.6 skin has (edited)

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:57 PM

whis did greyfox for 0.7

But he will not share it

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:59 PM

does anyone have that skin template where you can see the body part boundaries for 0.6 skins?

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 09:59 PM

idk

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 09:59 PM

is like for every body part you can see a colored example square

found it, thankfully google had it cached.

Trafalgar Law 11-Mar-20 10:01 PM

wtf whats that

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 10:01 PM

a template

for centering body parts

a gerdoe 11-Mar-20 10:03 PM

svg?

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 10:03 PM

that's an svg, but a bad one

a gerdoe 11-Mar-20 10:03 PM

yep

thats png but traced

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 10:03 PM

yeah

jxsl13 11-Mar-20 10:56 PM

is annoying to redraw the skin ._.

got no passion for that

LordSk 12-Mar-20 12:38 PM

@Trafalgar Law Put this into skins/body. If you want a better quality you'd have to get the original svg or remake it yourself.

Trafalgar Law 12-Mar-20 12:57 PM

Thanks :D

I will Test it if im at home

Trafalgar Law 12-Mar-20 02:02 PM

Looks nice @LordSk thanks

LordSk 12-Mar-20 02:03 PM

colin 12-Mar-20 08:00 PM

is there any push for teeworlds to adopt vectorised tee art

iirc it's all bitmaps spritesheets, right?

Dune 12-Mar-20 08:10 PM

not really and yes

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1564

Vectorization of all bitmap graphics · Issue #1564 · teeworlds/teew...

Had been thinking about this since 2013, why not ban bitmaps and vectorize everything? like to debate potential issues that would occur if this was to be done, would the benefit be worth it?

support for vectors is heavy being the main argument iirc

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1008 (keep in mind this is an old one)

Support for SVG · Issue #1008 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Support for SVG would be usefull for example for quads. Instead of using one big graphic to prevent scaling problems we could use SVGs. This would even reduce the file size of some graphics.

a gerdoe 12-Mar-20 08:48 PM

xd

louis 13-Mar-20 06:55 PM

isnt teeworlds run on opengl? i thought it was easy to vectorize

jxsl13 13-Mar-20 07:16 PM

sdl

redix 13-Mar-20 07:52 PM

yes teeworlds uses opengl for rendering, but it does not support rendering vector graphics by itself. You need to parse the svg files and implement all elements of the file format yourself. opengl itself can basically only render triangles (with colors and texture)

Darwish 15-Mar-20 11:10 AM

hello

who wants to play

IndigoBug86125 15-Mar-20 01:48 PM

Do anyone have a map with endless hook,unlimited jumps and the jetpack gun?

jxsl13 15-Mar-20 01:51 PM

that has nothing to do with a map, that behavior needs a server modifictation. (edited)

you might be looking for some server mod.

IndigoBug86125 15-Mar-20 01:56 PM

Uhm german? XD

But ok

jxsl13 15-Mar-20 02:14 PM

this is an english only chat ._.

you have a map and a gameserver.

the map only shows kind of the world, but does not have anything to do with how the world works. the gameserver on the other hand takes care of physics, hook, weapons, etc.

ChillerDragon 15-Mar-20 05:52 PM

This is the server mod that supports endless etc https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet7 @IndigoBug86125

Teeworlds Mapres Download (2000+ Mapres) - Teeskins

DDNet port to TW 0.7. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet7 development by creating an account on GitHub.

And for maps you have tons of choices Idk what type of map you want

AkaFad 15-Mar-20 08:39 PM

vanilla 0.6 is alive :DD

ChillerDragon 15-Mar-20 09:49 PM

lol true 8 ppl online right now crazy

a gerdoe 15-Mar-20 09:57 PM

xD

AkaFad 15-Mar-20 10:39 PM

@heinrich5991 i'll need your help

heinrich5991 15-Mar-20 11:07 PM

hm?

Trexus 16-Mar-20 10:23 PM

hi

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 12:25 AM

hey

AkaFad 17-Mar-20 02:22 PM

@heinrich5991 some1 told me you are an oldschool player (also ping me to answer me pls :p)

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 02:24 PM

:0 define oldschool

Iman 17-Mar-20 02:30 PM

hey im stopping teeworlds for a while, idk when i'll come back to it. Being randomly insulted/annoyed by people that i don't know or having a winrate close to 0 after more than one thousand hours isnt fun anymore. I had great times playing this game, wich is truly a wonderful game, but it's over for me. Bye and hf !

Trafalgar Law 17-Mar-20 02:30 PM

We see us tomorrow

You can't leave teeworlds

D:

Sumida 17-Mar-20 04:13 PM

Hey is here yuuri?

fokkonaut 17-Mar-20 04:18 PM

no here is patrick

Sumida 17-Mar-20 04:24 PM

Fvk

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 04:50 PM

hm, the crusty crab.

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:01 PM

Hello, I have been working on a tileset lately, (all numbers from now on are in pixels) the style i chose for the tileset was 16x16 pixelart which then is scaled (by 400% or 4x larger) to fit the tileset format of teeworlds 64x64 per tile and 1024x1024. After i drew most of the tileset i decided i would test it in teeworlds so i turned on my DDNet client (also tryed vannila 0.7 same issue) then imported the tileset image into teeworlds editor. The editor seems to do some sort of pixel distoration (interpolation)[Image n.1], which seems to take the colors of two pixels (1 when drawn, 4 when scaled to 64x64) next to eachthother and then ruins the flow and detail of the tileset.(from now on numbers are in tiles) Here are some examples of 3x3 dirt blocks ingame [Image n.2] and in the image editor [Image n.3] (in [Image n.4] i added a 64x64 grid if needed) i used (Aseprite). A guy called "Soreu" recommended me to try to use and exe called "dilate.exe" which is supposed to dilate the image [Image N.5], I don't see a major difference. If u dont notice a difference between ingame/editor and "Aseprite" here is a zoomed in comparison [Image n.6]. If u read this far thanks and i hope u can help me find a solution maybe this issue could be fixed with the new (Editor V2), If you want i can dm u the tileset. mistake the image below this is N.3 (edited)

Image n.6 (edited)

Sry discord shuffeled the images

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:02 PM

the need for dilate/borderfix was fixed in 0.7

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:03 PM

I just tryed what someone recommended thats all

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:03 PM

Yeah, just saying, it's normal that it doesn't work well without dilate/borderfix in 0.6, and you should never use these for 0.7

I am surprised it fails on 0.7

not sure what image corresponds to what

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:04 PM

they are all labeled

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:04 PM

Ah, there is some explanatory text, nvm :)

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:05 PM

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:09 PM

which one is the original 64x64-based tileset to use for testing?

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:09 PM

i can send u the 1024x1024 tileset if u want to test it

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:12 PM

please do (or parts of it)

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:12 PM

sent

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:14 PM

cool work

pixel art

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:14 PM

u havent even seen it xd

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:15 PM

well, if that's the dirt block

I might guess that it will be cool :0

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:20 PM

thanks i guess

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:22 PM

teeworlds uses linear filtering (GL_LINEAR) that's why it is unsuited to pixel art

see here: https://open.gl/textures

OpenGL - Textures

An extensive, yet beginner friendly guide to using modern OpenGL for game development on all major platforms.

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:23 PM

so GL_NEAREST would work with pixelart?

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:23 PM

yes

I mean it would probably work better at least

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:24 PM

Idk but would it be possible to make an option in the editor to choose the filtering then the editor will include it in the map file and then the client would choose the filtering depending on what u chose?

or is that too complex?

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:25 PM

I'm gonna be honest here, I don't think we'll ever get an option like this

it is too niche of a feature to be worth the cost

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:26 PM

isnt the nearest filtering overall better for tilesets mapping etc?

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:27 PM

It is bad at scaling, except for pixel art where you want to preserve hard edges (your case)

1

do you have a screenshot of your tileset used on a map in game?

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:29 PM

while on a server or in the editor?

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:29 PM

on a server (in game)

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:29 PM

The image n.6 is from ingame but you want default zoom right?

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:30 PM

yeah

on 0.7 preferably

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:30 PM

it'll depend on your monitor resolution anyway

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:32 PM

Again i get this glitch were i cant launch the server executable in default client i can screenshot in ddnet if thats ok? (edited)

0.6

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:33 PM

sure

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:35 PM

its not that bad but still way way different from the original in Aseprite

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:36 PM

I think it looks great honestly

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:36 PM

can't really zoom in to see the difference ._.

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:36 PM

thanks i just wanted it to be perfect

@jxsl13 here you go zoomed in

it creates these crossings which are super ugly (edited)

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:38 PM

I mean, you usually don't see these little nuances with the naked eye without zooming in

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:38 PM

i do

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:38 PM

at least I don't see it in fullscreen

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:40 PM

I'm going to make a whole lot of tilesets styled like this also ill make automappers simmilar too grass_main but a bit more complex and then make it free to use (with crediting me)

thats my plan rn im also working on authentic randomly looking cloud and cave backgrounds which will be tiles insteal of quads so they wont move but they will be able to be automapped into randomly looking (edited)

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jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:41 PM

._. we need a database for such stuff.

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:42 PM

@jxsl13 make one

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:42 PM

well, my css and html skills are limited

xD

like non existing (edited)

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:43 PM

also there is this: https://teeskins.de/asset/mapres

Download & Share: Teeworlds Mapres ▷ 2000+ Teeworlds Graphics ✓ Biggest Teeworlds Skins Collection ✓ Join Now ✓

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:43 PM

I'd love to do the backend

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:43 PM

@LordSk After im done with this i was thinking of expanding a few corners of grass_main 0.7 since i think there are a lot options of conections missing, maybe it could then be used in Editor V2

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:44 PM

sure, I'm eager to see it

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:44 PM

I appreciate the thought of that project, but imo it's ultra heavy weight javascript. I think it currently does not load or safari is dying on me.

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:45 PM

@LordSk is there somesort of a deadline for ur editor project or u dont wanna rush it and stuff?

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:46 PM

there is no deadline

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:46 PM

10 years?

x)

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:46 PM

also hopefully people will help me finish it faster since it is public

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:47 PM

@bubliman changes to default tilesets require major, compatibility-breaking versions

(it also breaks maps using them)

LordSk 17-Mar-20 05:47 PM

except if you only add to them right?

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 05:47 PM

yeah

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:48 PM

should be fine-ish yeah

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:48 PM

I would add to them some corners and options of connections for example something like this is missing

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:49 PM

not sure if there is room even

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:50 PM

plenty

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:50 PM

isnt that 0.7?

0.6*

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:50 PM

no 0.7

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:50 PM

oh okay

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:50 PM

0.6

xd

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:51 PM

well, even then, older clients won't see it so no, you need a major version @LordSk

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:51 PM

U can just update 0.7 ?

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:52 PM

Servers using the new tilesets would show broken maps for everyone <0.7.5 @bubliman

If you need such a tileset, just make it external

it's only a few kB

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:53 PM

u sure since i would use unused spaces in the tileset which are unused by the servers = that it wouldnt glitch

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:53 PM

when they are used in the map, it would look transparent for older clients, @bubliman

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:55 PM

i dont need it i just wanted to add a few options to mapping since current automapper does this

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:55 PM

yeah the current automapper cannot work well with 1x1 tiles, except when they are alone. @Assa did his best to improve it

this cannot be fixed with a 0.7 release though

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:56 PM

with default option the automapper works but the grass option doesnt do well since it has been forgotten or something

ye he did this right?

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:57 PM

with default option? huh

well @Assa ^

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:57 PM

Dune 17-Mar-20 05:57 PM

not sure why there is a "default" and a "grass" and they are different

bubliman 17-Mar-20 05:58 PM

cave also doesnt work

@Dune default uses dirt walls while grass means grass is put everywhere

I guess i will keep it as it is i was just annoyed i couldnt achieve perfectness. Thanks @Dune and @LordSk (Gl with the editor)

LordSk 17-Mar-20 06:01 PM

thanks

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:02 PM

@LordSk Last thing how can i allocate sounds in the editor? idk the path

is it mapres?

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:02 PM

I don't think there is a better solution with the default tileset unfortunately :/

LordSk 17-Mar-20 06:03 PM

no you can't

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:03 PM

wait why is there a option for sounds at all then

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:03 PM

The editor includes no sounds, though it is an open issue: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1031

Ingame sounds · Issue #1031 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Would like to hear some ambient sounds while playing teeworlds (: Idea: You can load sound files in the editor and can assign them to some 'sound layer' (similar to quad layers) Sou...

LordSk 17-Mar-20 06:03 PM

a DDnet feature I assume?

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:03 PM

You might be thinking of ddnet specific features

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:04 PM

oh sorry

yeah any chance u know?

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:04 PM

I don't, sorry

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:06 PM

oh i got it it was mapres i thought they would have a seperate folder for sounds and images so i didnt even try to put it in mapres

ChillerDragon 17-Mar-20 06:13 PM

yea ddnet has sounds in maps

wasnt ever very popular as far as i know

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:13 PM

yes it wasnt

ChillerDragon 17-Mar-20 06:14 PM

i might be wrong

i can only remember like one map using it

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0EqbeCdAbQ&t=926s this guy used it and his maps looks and sounds cool but since vannila tw doesnt have moving interactive quads u cant do the same (edited)

danylr2

My DDNet maps - showcase (unofficial maps) | Teeworlds

All those maps are unfinished and i probably wont finish them any time soon. I am not expecting them to be official, i made them just for fun For Isaac, Pacman's club, DKC2, Necrodancer and the GIant tee map i used a kog server with interactive quads. download: https://dri...

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:19 PM

what's this passionate map

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:20 PM

the pacman styled one is pretty nice i would say

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:21 PM

I wonder how many years of his life that person spent making those animations.

10 maybe

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:23 PM

I dont know but i cant get animations to work i just dont understand the graphs with X,Y,S idk just really weird way to do it and since the only tutorial there is is in german by chillerdragon i cant even understand it but im exited for editor v2's style of animating

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:23 PM

@ChillerDragon

you mean envelopes, @bubliman ?

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:23 PM

ye

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:23 PM

that whole system is whacky, but has potential (edited)

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:24 PM

But chiller said there were no other tutorials so no need to ping him

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:24 PM

last time I used it, you had to drag lines to get your animations to work ._.

and dragging was not precise at all

maybe 10 years ago ._.

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:24 PM

ye i draged some lines to test it but i could get it to show me the result so i gave up

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:25 PM

it auto refreshes the map you are playing on if you're logged in rcon

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:25 PM

(hidden features everywhere)

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:25 PM

wdum?

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:25 PM

x)

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:26 PM

if you are logged in rcon, on a server that hosts the map you are editing, it will reload the map so you can test ingame quickly by switching out of the editor

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:26 PM

u mean like the command "reload" would do

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:26 PM

yes

I guess that's a bit irrelevant

how come you couldn't test those animations?

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:27 PM

so with envelopes i dont have to type reload?

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:27 PM

with everything, it's a general advice thing

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:27 PM

wait now im lost

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:27 PM

I think the editorv2 will have a game view so it's even easier

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:27 PM

(Y)

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:27 PM

but why can't you test your map on a local server?

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:28 PM

with reload the server gets the new map version

so does the envelope do that for u?

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:28 PM

gotta save first maybe

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:28 PM

ye of course

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:29 PM

after saving I'd guess the client executes reload automatically

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:29 PM

server

has to do that

or are u both talking about editor v2 fetures?

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:30 PM

that's a current thing

you don't need to type reload, it does that automatically

but forget it :)

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:30 PM

I dunno about this feature(editor v1), I'd guess because you are logged in rcon and saving your map while on the server, the client executes the reload command and the server reloads the map.

(basically writes "reload" in f2 and presses enter)

for you

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:31 PM

i use the ddnet editor atm since its propably the best available for race maps and that feature isnt there right?

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:31 PM

ddnet is 0.6

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:32 PM

editor v1 is 0.6?

i know that btw

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:32 PM

I mean we are currently on 0.7

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:32 PM

its everything

there is only one editor atm :p

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:32 PM

maps have a slightly different format?

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:32 PM

no

i think

they are compatible

on both

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:33 PM

yeah they are

the standard tilesets changed that's all

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 06:33 PM

then it's the same, eh :0

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:35 PM

The development on official teeworlds has stopped right just community additions now?

ChillerDragon 17-Mar-20 06:43 PM

@Dune also the compression algorithm changed so 0.6 clients can not open 0.7 maps

@bubliman i would'nt draw a strict border between official and community since its open (edited)

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:45 PM

@ChillerDragon i mean the original dev team

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:47 PM

Ah

right chiller

@bubliman as you can see in #development it's still active

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:51 PM

@Dune i guess there are no plans for 0.8 right?

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:54 PM

there are plans, but for the future, and since that would break all mods, I think it's better to focus on compatible upgrades for now, the biggest issue of 0.7 is that we lost a bunch of 0.6 content that still needs to be ported @bubliman

bubliman 17-Mar-20 06:56 PM

Yeah majority of the community plays on 0.6 which is a pretty big issue since not many people care for 0.7

and that equals no mods getting ported any time soon

@Dune when i think of it could u give me examples since there isnt that much left i think

Dune 17-Mar-20 06:57 PM

I mean, a bunch of ddnet stuff surely?

bubliman 17-Mar-20 07:01 PM

When i read some old threads on the tw forum. Landil mainly used to not support the idea of racing at all is that opinion changed or will the main focus gameplay wise still be on "shooting" gamemodes?

Dune 17-Mar-20 07:01 PM

huh, there have been plans for race since 2011 or so and 0.7.4 has some official race support, at least client-side

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2172

Client: Add basic race support · Issue #2172 · teeworlds/teeworlds

show times instead of points seperate race timer finish msg (as kill message), localized, icon start/finish/checkpoint supprt automatic demo recording of the race

heinrich5991 17-Mar-20 07:04 PM

@AkaFad what do you need?

AkaFad 17-Mar-20 07:05 PM

@heinrich5991 i would need you to make a teeworlds timeline. Someone told me you are an oldschool teeworlds player, and i would like to know since how many time do you play this game

bubliman 17-Mar-20 07:13 PM

@Dune are there any servers using it or are all of them still using unofficial racing mods?

Dune 17-Mar-20 07:24 PM

Yeah, most 0.7.4 race-related servers should be using it. At least those running @redix 's race mod are

Assa 17-Mar-20 07:24 PM

@AkaFad you took a look at the commit history?

AkaFad 17-Mar-20 07:24 PM

@Assa why

Dune 17-Mar-20 07:24 PM

You will see times in the scoreboard of the server browser for example

Assa 17-Mar-20 07:25 PM

you are doing a teeworlds timeline ^^ i guess you can read a lot out of it

AkaFad 17-Mar-20 07:25 PM

from you ?

@Assa

Assa 17-Mar-20 07:26 PM

???

AkaFad 17-Mar-20 07:26 PM

wdym

by "u can read a lot out of it"

Assa 17-Mar-20 07:27 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/commits/master

News (Page 1) — Teeworlds Forum

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

this is basically a development timeline

idk how far back you can go

AkaFad 17-Mar-20 07:29 PM

yes, but there's nothing rly interesting on it. the only things i could put in the TL would be the versions.

wanna join the timeline server ,

?

Assa 17-Mar-20 07:29 PM

idk your goals so prob. not?

AkaFad 17-Mar-20 07:29 PM

wtf

my eng so bad

my goals are to make a timeline like this

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you can join the server to inform us, you could be useful

Dune 17-Mar-20 07:37 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewforum.php?id=7 will be useful

News (Page 1) — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

AkaFad 17-Mar-20 07:54 PM

omg thanks you :d

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 08:03 PM

There are a lot of people from a long time ago here. You could use the waybackmachine on the teeworlds.com/teewars.com website to see the history.

Deleted User 17-Mar-20 08:04 PM

death match -> capture the flag -> ddrace That's it?

jxsl13 17-Mar-20 08:04 PM

try teewars.com (iirc) and the year 2002

missing kinda like 8 years of instagib

zCatch, fng, all the other race mods.

zomb

monster. and many more, cities

etc.

AkaFad 17-Mar-20 08:18 PM

waow thanks

Ryozuki 17-Mar-20 08:27 PM

https://web.archive.org/web/20030804151526/http://www.teewars.com/

that catch phrase

does someone know the temp name matrics used before teewars?

oh

it was "shootout" (edited)

the original name

good question for a tw trivia

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ChillerDragon 18-Mar-20 01:24 AM

@Ryozuki hard trivia i guess the average tw player doesnt even know it was called teewars

Deleted User 18-Mar-20 06:50 AM

I know.

Teeworlds has a mysterious power to fast forward time. I guess a combination of "can't pause this" and "no saves in a super hard and difficult map"

ChillerDragon 18-Mar-20 08:13 AM

i use my bed as a time machine

bubliman 18-Mar-20 10:16 AM

@ChillerDragon This is what i mean by the original dev team :Matricks, Teetow, Phobos,Fredraken, Biograf, Kennel, Sunray, Knasen. Is any of them still working on teeworlds?

ChillerDragon 18-Mar-20 10:49 AM

no

well not that i know

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6641

Teeworlds Elders (Page 1) — News — Teeworlds Forum

Teeworlds Elders (Page 1) — News — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

AkaFad 18-Mar-20 12:27 PM

@Ryozuki dude, this is insane. 2003

thanks

jxsl13 18-Mar-20 01:41 PM

the post says "Shootout" was the workname before Teewars.

Kacper 18-Mar-20 02:02 PM

who wanna play

El BobLex 18-Mar-20 02:33 PM

forum spam

heinrich5991 18-Mar-20 02:45 PM

done

reporting sends an email btw

El_Diablos_Nacho 18-Mar-20 02:56 PM

guys can you help me, my game is lagging but my pc and my wifi are good how can i resolve

LordSk 18-Mar-20 03:34 PM

@El_Diablos_Nacho what's your OS and teeworlds version?

El_Diablos_Nacho 18-Mar-20 05:19 PM

OS ?

and the version is 0.7.4

AkaFad 18-Mar-20 05:31 PM

@El_Diablos_Nacho nah, do you have windows, or linux...

El_Diablos_Nacho 18-Mar-20 06:20 PM

windows

LordSk 18-Mar-20 06:27 PM

@El_Diablos_Nacho from steam or the teeworlds website?

Also are you able to record a video of your gameplay?

with (ctrl+shift+d and ctrl+shift+g enabled)

El_Diablos_Nacho 18-Mar-20 08:12 PM

steam

yes im able

but tomorow

LordSk 18-Mar-20 08:14 PM

Alright, you should see graphs like these when enabled:

@El_Diablos_Nacho Do you lag on 0.6 as well?

AkaFad 18-Mar-20 09:57 PM

@El_Diablos_Nacho maybe just try to put a FPS limit, it Works for me. Its on settings > graphics > FPS limit. Also turn off v sync

bubliman 19-Mar-20 10:50 AM

Have u guys missed that he uses !wifi!, i would say thats the problem u should run a wire to your PC @El_Diablos_Nacho, especially if there is a wall between your wifi receiver and your router that could result in lags (edited)

Dune 19-Mar-20 11:30 AM

@bubliman that's why @LordSk asked for those graphs in the first place, to identify potential wifi issues ;)

bubliman 19-Mar-20 11:46 AM

@Dune idk that those exist i thoght he was looking for tw version

@Dune my stuff is fine right?

@Dune can i somehow get the ghosting effect from Ctlr+Shift+d but without all the numbers etc

a gerdoe 19-Mar-20 11:50 AM

xd

Dune 19-Mar-20 11:58 AM

@bubliman as long as your graphs stay green they're fine :) your network is stable

not sure why you'd want that ghosting effect, it only shows what your tee looks like with cl_predict 0

but no, you can't

bubliman 19-Mar-20 12:00 PM

hmm i like it @Dune

bubliman 19-Mar-20 12:43 PM

@Dune i wanted to go through teeworlds-master, but i have never went through someone elses code/folder organization, any tool to seacrh the whole "teeworlds-master"or guidance ?

Dune 19-Mar-20 12:43 PM

No

bubliman 19-Mar-20 12:43 PM

ok ill have to dig through it then

Dune 19-Mar-20 12:44 PM

Just look for the fonctionality you're searching for and start from there

fokkonaut 19-Mar-20 12:45 PM

visual studio has a function, ctrl+shift+F

bubliman 19-Mar-20 12:46 PM

ok so i put the whole folder in there?

fokkonaut 19-Mar-20 12:47 PM

you open the teeworlds master as a project in vs

bubliman 19-Mar-20 12:47 PM

oh ok which version of vs u recommend?

a gerdoe 19-Mar-20 12:51 PM

2019 community

or 2015 community

bubliman 19-Mar-20 12:52 PM

does newer=better apply here?

Dune 19-Mar-20 01:35 PM

you don't need such a huge mess just to have a search function, @bubliman

bubliman 19-Mar-20 01:35 PM

@Dune Why is visual studio a huge mesS?

Dune 19-Mar-20 01:36 PM

arguable, but you don't need something like that to search a string in a folder, use whatever your OS provides

jxsl13 19-Mar-20 01:48 PM

use visual studio code

.

ctrl + shift + f

or cmd + shift + f

ChillerDragon 19-Mar-20 02:38 PM

grep

jxsl13 19-Mar-20 02:39 PM

gRIP

(edited)

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ChillerDragon 19-Mar-20 11:51 PM

I am getting concerned about the YouTube situation :/ Back then there were around 10 teeworlds uploads every day half of them being some new lets player. And I haven’t seen any of those in years. Seems like there are less new comers •.•

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jxsl13 20-Mar-20 12:04 AM

hm, my perception is that there is more action on Twitch nowadays.

coany 20-Mar-20 12:35 AM

Deleted User 20-Mar-20 05:57 AM

why would people watch twitch when you can just connect and spectrate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiB9pg2dQSQ

TwiceRus

Funny montage 2 (Fail montage) by ZiKkie

https://vk.com/twrus Music: AC-DC - Thunderstruck Gorillaz - Rock The House (Instrumental) Snoop Dogg Smoke weed every day (dubstep remix) Rocky Balboa - Theme Song ProleteR - April Showers Thousand Foot Krutch - War Of Change Lynn Music - Boulangerie Papa Roach - As far as I ...

1

This is probably the coolest thing I saw in the last year on youtube last year.

People are such chickens about adding music to their videos.

a gerdoe 20-Mar-20 09:50 AM

2015

eleissor 20-Mar-20 06:01 PM

xD

Assa 21-Mar-20 06:01 PM

@jason54 pls fix Catch64 server

jxsl13 21-Mar-20 06:54 PM

:dedpepe:

Trafalgar Law 21-Mar-20 06:56 PM

Trafalgar Law 21-Mar-20 07:21 PM

Anyone here who has a tabletennis mod

Miss old times

Dune 21-Mar-20 07:23 PM

that was just the ball mod

scosu's

Trafalgar Law 21-Mar-20 07:23 PM

Where is this amazing mod

Dune 21-Mar-20 07:33 PM

I don't know, search the forums

Souly 21-Mar-20 10:34 PM

why is normal server broadcast wider than colored server broadcast?

Dune 21-Mar-20 10:35 PM

you are probably talking about client-side broadcasts

Souly 21-Mar-20 10:35 PM

hmm

yes

but why does it happen

ChillerDragon 21-Mar-20 10:36 PM

ou thats weird

is it?

a gerdoe 22-Mar-20 09:19 AM

@jxsl13 nice

jason54 22-Mar-20 01:18 PM

@Assa could you tell me what to fix

Assa 22-Mar-20 01:18 PM

the map, the votes, the config

sv_allow_pickups 0

you can get all here https://github.com/AssassinTee/catch64/releases

AssassinTee/catch64

catch64, its like catch16 (colorcatch), but with colors AND skins - AssassinTee/catch64

jason54 22-Mar-20 01:19 PM

Ok

eleissor 22-Mar-20 04:10 PM

do someone heard me ?

4

jxsl13 22-Mar-20 08:13 PM

@Rimso you on?

(it's actually not possible to change between grenade and laser via votes on zCatch)

gotta host one server for each game mode (edited)

Rimso 22-Mar-20 09:34 PM

I am @jxsl13 (edited)

It's possible I did it

u just need to reload after that

Trafalgar Law 22-Mar-20 09:36 PM

bigBrain

Rimso 22-Mar-20 09:36 PM

add_vote "Laser" "game_mode laser; reload"

(edited)

I think it possible to do it with one vote, but I never try, something like :

add_vote "Laser / Grenade" "toggle game_mode laser grenade; reload"

(edited)

Trafalgar Law 22-Mar-20 09:39 PM

Just use two votes

Rimso 22-Mar-20 09:39 PM

yes, easier :p

a gerdoe 22-Mar-20 10:01 PM

hehe

Souly 22-Mar-20 10:46 PM

200 iq

jxsl13 22-Mar-20 11:04 PM

oof, dude, I did not expect that to work xD

nice

hair

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a gerdoe 22-Mar-20 11:24 PM

xD

Ryozuki 22-Mar-20 11:59 PM

u can always exec a cfg file

Assa 23-Mar-20 01:48 AM

A: exec B.cfg B: exec A.cfg

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 01:59 AM

:dedpepe:

circular exec sucks! booh

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:00 AM

A: exec B.cfg; exec A.cfg B: exec A.cfg; exec B.cfg

^fork bomb

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:02 AM

hm, a christmas tree

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:02 AM

executing all the red lights

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:02 AM

._. just me wasting my sleeping time

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:02 AM

normal me just having a broken sleep schedule

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:03 AM

same ._: I feel you

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:03 AM

there are so much programms I could write if I wouldn't require sleep

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:04 AM

well, maybe in 100 years

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:05 AM

i want brainupload now :C i would scale myself up to 100 and we would have a mod singularity in teeworlds

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:05 AM

infinite mods, 0 players

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:05 AM

imagine bot's, but all are me (edited)

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:06 AM

quits game forever

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:08 AM

it's always easier to make bots worse

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:09 AM

isn't it easier to make then perfect?

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:09 AM

no

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:10 AM

hm, depends on the stuff you wanna achieve

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:10 AM

there are problems where you even run into the problem of describing what a "perfekt bot" is

you can just write a function to measure the goodness

and train something to optimize it

thats actually what machine learning is doing

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:11 AM

aimbots that aim perfectly seems easier, at least with laser, but making them worse seems hard. grenade bots seem harder but easy to have bad grenade bots.

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:11 AM

you can't write a perfect grenade bot

because you can't predict players perfectly

with map knowledge you can archive better predictions, this is what good players do

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:12 AM

laser bots then

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:12 AM

no

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:13 AM

perfect is easy, balanced is hard?

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:13 AM

what about wallshots in laser?

you need to predict other players for this too

and it's always easier to make a bot worse

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:13 AM

in that case perfection is never reachable

in any case, then?

as perfection is not reachable, everything is imperfect, implying bad?

thus bad bots are easy to make, even tho they are good enough

and as perfect as can be, but never perfect

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:15 AM

you can always add variance to the input of a bot

to make it worse

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:15 AM

hm, k

Assa 23-Mar-20 02:15 AM

i can imagine 100 ways to make a bot worse

but only 1 perfect bot is possible

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 02:15 AM

with enough data, I guess...

Rimso 23-Mar-20 03:23 AM

@jxsl13 That the server logs ? on discord ?!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407308363031117834/691451716700209202/Bildschirmfoto_2020-03-23_um_01.54.45.png

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 03:59 AM

yeah, kinda, only the necessary stuff

chat + votes

Mxxouu_ 23-Mar-20 12:13 PM

Hello everyone

eleissor 23-Mar-20 05:15 PM

helllllllo

SoGa 23-Mar-20 09:20 PM

Did someone ever write about the history of this game in a forum or blog post? It is so old and I remember playing it years ago. I'm pretty happy to see people are still playing! (edited)

jxsl13 23-Mar-20 09:30 PM

there is some github repository that collects the history of the game, would be nice to have it pinned in announcements or something like that (edited)

ChillerDragon 23-Mar-20 09:34 PM

https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/history/blob/master/timeline.md

TeeworldsDB/history

Keeping track of teeworlds history. Contribute to TeeworldsDB/history development by creating an account on GitHub.

this?

its still early WIP tho

SoGa 23-Mar-20 09:39 PM

Wow the screenshot from 2007

I think, I first played around 2010. I could be remembering it wrong. I definitely never heard of teewars !

Assa 23-Mar-20 10:10 PM

I played teewars once when i was 10, i can't remember anything from it

Deleted User 24-Mar-20 04:15 PM

salut

a gerdoe 24-Mar-20 04:21 PM

sal u

eleissor 24-Mar-20 05:20 PM

salut

who s fr ?

Dune 24-Mar-20 05:26 PM

Rule 2 please

a gerdoe 24-Mar-20 10:11 PM

isnt salut = hello for all englishmans?

dead50 25-Mar-20 01:22 AM

hi, anyone know how could i implement a mod into a regular server?

Trafalgar Law 25-Mar-20 01:23 AM

Which mod do you want to use?

dead50 25-Mar-20 01:23 AM

i wanna use catch64

Trafalgar Law 25-Mar-20 01:24 AM

Okay and which OS do you use for your server?

dead50 25-Mar-20 01:24 AM

im doing windows, really vanilla stuff

i just don't get what exactly what to do

Trafalgar Law 25-Mar-20 01:25 AM

Okay https://github.com/AssassinTee/catch64/releases Download teeworlds-windows-latest.zip

AssassinTee/catch64

catch64, its like catch16 (colorcatch), but with colors AND skins - AssassinTee/catch64

Download also autoexec.cfg and Catch16.map

dead50 25-Mar-20 01:26 AM

gotcha

Trafalgar Law 25-Mar-20 01:27 AM

put the autoexec.cfg in the same folder like the _srv is

and the Catch16.map in data/maps or smth like that

dead50 25-Mar-20 01:28 AM

data->maps

okay

Trafalgar Law 25-Mar-20 01:29 AM

and now you can start the _srv file

But only you can join this server atm

dead50 25-Mar-20 01:30 AM

do i gotta do a .bat

and edit the autoexec.cfg?

Trafalgar Law 25-Mar-20 01:31 AM

normally it should start automatically the config

because its autoexec

dead50 25-Mar-20 01:31 AM

oh yeah nvm it did

dead50 25-Mar-20 01:39 AM

oh yes

it is working

thank you

dead50 25-Mar-20 04:06 AM

now

can you add an vote

to change game mode?

dead50 25-Mar-20 04:14 AM

or i would have to completely change the server for it

Assa 25-Mar-20 09:56 AM

@dead50 the autoexec should contain some votes already, but feel free to edit it (serverrestart required)

you need to add some router forwarding of port 8303 in UDP AND TCP in order to make it online for everyone

dead50 25-Mar-20 09:57 AM

I couldn't find an actual gametype argument

To fill the thing for a vote

And yeah port forwarding was done

Managed to play with 12 people fine

Assa 25-Mar-20 09:58 AM

what do you mean by gametype in this context?

dead50 25-Mar-20 09:58 AM

Like

Going from catch

To ctf

Or dm

Assa 25-Mar-20 09:58 AM

oh you can't do this without switching the _srv file

dead50 25-Mar-20 09:58 AM

Figures.

Thats a big rip

I guess i will do 2 separated servers

For when bored of catch

Assa 25-Mar-20 09:59 AM

that's the only option for this

dead50 25-Mar-20 09:59 AM

Thanks for the reply

Assa 25-Mar-20 09:59 AM

np

dead50 25-Mar-20 10:01 AM

Oh i wanted to ask

Does the laser gun always one shots by default?

Or i gotta buff its damage for it

Cuz my people want to play like ctf with only instakill lasers and such

Assa 25-Mar-20 10:04 AM

laser does in normal ctf 5 damage

if you program it to do instakill, you have to change the name ctf to something other, too my-ctf

dead50 25-Mar-20 10:06 AM

I see, then make my ctf use the rules I want

How do i achieve that?

Assa 25-Mar-20 10:06 AM

you can play DM with instakill laser

do sv_gametype MOD and tune laser_damage 20

tuning parameters only work on non-default gametypes

dead50 25-Mar-20 10:08 AM

Do i gotta create an. .cfg?

Assa 25-Mar-20 10:08 AM

you always should

dead50 25-Mar-20 10:08 AM

For like "mod" parameters

a gerdoe 25-Mar-20 10:32 AM

русский?

5

Deleted User 25-Mar-20 06:09 PM

hey!

fokkonaut 26-Mar-20 04:51 PM

1

a gerdoe 26-Mar-20 05:24 PM

✝️

ReiTW 26-Mar-20 09:21 PM

@fokkonaut ur srv will be empty if I move v3royal from 0.6 to 7

fokkonaut 26-Mar-20 09:22 PM

i dont care

Dune 26-Mar-20 09:23 PM

be nice

🎀mao🎀 26-Mar-20 09:25 PM

hello

could someone explain to me, what are clients?

Dune 26-Mar-20 09:26 PM

@🎀mao🎀 clients are what you play with

🎀mao🎀 26-Mar-20 09:26 PM

i always hear players talking about ddclient and zclient

what are those?

Trafalgar Law 26-Mar-20 09:26 PM

f-client

and zillywoods

Dune 26-Mar-20 09:26 PM

modified clients

Trafalgar Law 26-Mar-20 09:27 PM

^

🎀mao🎀 26-Mar-20 09:27 PM

and what do they change?

Dune 26-Mar-20 09:27 PM

think pimp your game

plenty of things, aesthetics, integration with other modifications etc

🎀mao🎀 26-Mar-20 09:28 PM

how can i get one client?

i want to have cool skins

Dune 26-Mar-20 09:28 PM

0.7 modified clients: https://fokkonaut.github.io/F-Client/ https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=13331 https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12622

ElJotita 27-Mar-20 12:20 AM

Hello! First time here. I was wondering where can I find server side mods (plugins? addons?). I mean, I know there is a lot of content on the forums, but that's the problem too, too many versions. Is there any space just for server side modifications? Thank you!

jxsl13 27-Mar-20 01:34 AM

github.com

Souly 27-Mar-20 01:51 AM

@ReiTW you are going to move royal to 0.7?

ReiTW 27-Mar-20 02:35 AM

idk

I already have a beta version of blockworlds

so

Souly 27-Mar-20 04:46 AM

Dune 27-Mar-20 09:59 AM

@ElJotita teeworlds.com modifications subforum is your best bet, though not everything is there. There are only two versions that matter , 0.6 and 0.7

Trafalgar Law 27-Mar-20 12:31 PM

@Dune @heinrich5991 https://i.imgur.com/xPIjBhk.png Look at the server name

Dune 27-Mar-20 12:32 PM

What about it @Trafalgar Law

Trafalgar Law 27-Mar-20 12:32 PM

"Bastards server" ?

Dune 27-Mar-20 12:32 PM

We are not going to police every rude server message

Trafalgar Law 27-Mar-20 12:32 PM

ok

Dune 27-Mar-20 12:32 PM

Less interference is better imo

1

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 12:34 PM

ye

n000b 27-Mar-20 02:24 PM

@ReiTW dont bring shitty block community to 0.7 please.

ReiTW 27-Mar-20 02:26 PM

@n000b well none's saying this to ddnet for bringing their shit to 0.7

n000b 27-Mar-20 02:33 PM

True

Blame fokkonaut for this. Besides it seems like people want it since multimap is the most played mod atm.

Multimap is a mod on its own

Trafalgar Law 27-Mar-20 02:34 PM

xd

Souly 27-Mar-20 02:36 PM

MmapRace

MMRace

Trafalgar Law 27-Mar-20 02:36 PM

MLRace

Souly 27-Mar-20 02:36 PM

MMLRace

Trafalgar Law 27-Mar-20 02:36 PM

:X

2

Souly 27-Mar-20 02:37 PM

DDless

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 04:36 PM

anyone got z-client?

@Dune

you're a mod

maybe you know where i could get it

cause i've been looking online, and cant find it anywhere

Dune 27-Mar-20 04:52 PM

That's a very old thing. Isn't it 0.5?

n000b 27-Mar-20 05:36 PM

@🎀mao🎀 i think noby has the biggest client collection

jxsl13 27-Mar-20 05:55 PM

maybe zillywoods (beware is zilly). z-client was from Z-Team back in the days :D like 8 years ago.

apparently, as the forum is kinda dead, might make sense to have an info channel for mods and client mods.

Dune 27-Mar-20 06:00 PM

the forum is still the most accessible and convenient place to list resources

@🎀mao🎀 do you mean https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=13331?

[CLIENT][0.7] ZillyWoods (ddrace) (Page 1) — Modifications — Teewor...

[CLIENT][0.7] ZillyWoods (ddrace) (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 06:04 PM

i tried zillywoods

but i dont this that;s it

im like confused

so so bad

Dune 27-Mar-20 06:07 PM

Are you looking for a ~8 years old client ?

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 06:41 PM

i had a client, where the settings had skins

like others' made skins

not the default ones

@Dune

know what im talking abnout?

about

Dune 27-Mar-20 06:41 PM

no, there are several clients like that

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 06:52 PM

hm darn

are there mods?

like i see players having their gun changed

or having different star colours when you get frozen

or different hook colours

how can i get that?

Souly 27-Mar-20 06:54 PM

modified game graphics

Dune 27-Mar-20 07:12 PM

you can modify your game.png and other data in the game folders to achieve this

my modified client ships with a bunch of these

maybe @fokkonaut's does too

0.7 modified clients: https://fokkonaut.github.io/F-Client/ https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=13331 https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12622

fokkonaut 27-Mar-20 07:14 PM

mine doesnt

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 07:32 PM

soo, where can i find individual skins, and like mod the game?

also i'm currently picking between f-client and zillywods

woods*

Dune 27-Mar-20 07:58 PM

zillywoods is no longer maintained, pick fokkonaut's

what do you mean by skins, weapon skins?

or actual (tee) skins

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:10 PM

weapon skins, the starts when you're frozen skins or how to change their colours

just i see how some youtubers have like cool colours, and item skins

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:13 PM

@🎀mao🎀 z-team client?

ah

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:14 PM

what

?

@a gerdoe

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:14 PM

no no

i thought that you want 0.5 z-team client

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:15 PM

oh no

dune

do you know what i want?

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:15 PM

0.6/0.7?

if you want 0.7 customized client there are only two: f-client and chillerdragon's client

if you want customized 0.6 client...

go to forum

there are a lot

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:19 PM

0.78

0.7*

and i got f-client

@a gerdoe

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:23 PM

ok

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:23 PM

so, i looked online a bit, haven't found anything on item skin modding

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:23 PM

gud choice xd

0.7 have no teecomp for now

as i know

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:24 PM

what's tee comp

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:24 PM

uhm

customizing

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

awie

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

xd

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

so no item skins?

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

@fokkonaut ding dong

fokkonaut 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

hi

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

DING DONG

help

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

add customizing

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

pls

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

for this guy

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

yes please

fokkonaut 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

no u

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:26 PM

xd

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:27 PM

add black and red starts when ur frozen

a black hook

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:27 PM

uhm

its just gameskin

u can copypaste it

teeskins.de (edited)

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:27 PM

whot

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:27 PM

look up gameskins

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:27 PM

where do i find that

alright i will

where can i find a black hook and black stars?

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:30 PM

idk

just search

or make it yourself

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 08:31 PM

fokkonaut baka make it pls

im confused with this modding stuff

ily

Trafalgar Law 27-Mar-20 08:44 PM

@Dune do // works in .cfg to commit out smth?

Dune 27-Mar-20 08:45 PM

No, #

Trafalgar Law 27-Mar-20 08:45 PM

thx

Dune 27-Mar-20 08:45 PM

@a gerdoe i ported teecomp

There are weapon skin selectors in the gamer + teecomp

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 08:46 PM

yeah...

thats it dune

still actual @Dune :)

@🎀mao🎀

get it

ElJotita 27-Mar-20 09:24 PM

@ElJotita teeworlds.com modifications subforum is your best bet, though not everything is there. There are only two versions that matter , 0.6 and 0.7

@Dune Understood! Thank you

ChillerDragon 27-Mar-20 09:27 PM

crazy i have never seen so many players in 0.7

Dune 27-Mar-20 09:29 PM

covid for teeworlds!

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 09:40 PM

heh (edited)

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 09:55 PM

@Dune where do i find it

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 09:56 PM

teeworlds forum

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12622

[CLIENT][0.7] Teeworlds Gamer (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds ...

[CLIENT][0.7] Teeworlds Gamer (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 09:58 PM

thank you

but @a gerdoe i use z-client

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:16 PM

@Dune

i use z-client

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:17 PM

and?..

Dune 27-Mar-20 10:17 PM

I'm not aware of such a thing in 0.7

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:20 PM

what?

what do you mean

im confused

like, if i donwload that gamer client

z-client wont work

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:23 PM

wut

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:23 PM

ok so,

right now, i use z-client

made by fokkonaut

and how can i get skins on that thread

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:24 PM

you can copypaste the game.png

particles.png

and other

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:24 PM

really?

and after i copypaste it

what then?

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:24 PM

join the game

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:25 PM

and how do i change it to the skins

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:25 PM

stop stop stop

what are you talking about

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:25 PM

the skins

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:25 PM

about skins or gameskins?

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:25 PM

for items

Dune 27-Mar-20 10:25 PM

right now, i use z-client made by fokkonaut

ah, that's f-client

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:25 PM

gameskins

uh

oh im sorry

yes f-client

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:26 PM

i confused totally

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:26 PM

im sorry

so, im using f-client

and want gameskins

from the gamer client

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:26 PM

mhm

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:26 PM

i just copypaste game.png and particles.png and other

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:26 PM

game.png and others you can copypaste

skins

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:26 PM

so, all the .png files in data?

copypaste those>

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:27 PM

you can copy files from body eyes and etc from one client to second

to the same folder

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:27 PM

what

the last part

what body eyes

ooh in skins

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:28 PM

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:28 PM

ok, i'll try

a gerdoe 27-Mar-20 10:29 PM

oke

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:34 PM

it didnt work

i cant see the new skins

or the skin selection

i replaced skins, particles, the .png files

@a gerdoe

Dune 27-Mar-20 10:36 PM

@🎀mao🎀 weapon skins are not "skins", they are game.png

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:36 PM

uhhhhhh

so

what do i do now

i replaced the .png

do i get into game?

i also just want black weapons, hook and stars

how can i get that

@Dune you're the modder here

help

sorry if im not patient

Dune 27-Mar-20 10:39 PM

change game.png or get a client that natively supports that

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:39 PM

where can i find the black game.png

Assa 27-Mar-20 10:40 PM

@🎀mao🎀 just go into the teeworlds->data folder and change all .png files as you like

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:40 PM

but i have no image editing skills

i cant do shit

Assa 27-Mar-20 10:41 PM

then learn shit, you can't ask people on the internet to do shit for free

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:41 PM

alright, like i found a skin on teeskins.de, but when i try to download it, it shows 404 not found

Assa 27-Mar-20 10:42 PM

software you can use is GIMP, Inkscape, Photoshop and/or Paint.net 

Dune 27-Mar-20 10:42 PM

@🎀mao🎀 look for gameskins in thye teeworlds forum then

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:42 PM

alright, but do i like need to really zoom in and paint it?

Assa 27-Mar-20 10:42 PM

you can find hundrets of tutorials on youtube

Dune 27-Mar-20 10:42 PM

I don't think making your own is a good start @🎀mao🎀 just look for an existing one

https://teeskins.de/asset/gameskins

Teeworlds Gameskins Download (2000+ Gameskins) - Teeskins

Download & Share: Teeworlds Gameskins ▷ 2000+ Teeworlds Graphics ✓ Biggest Teeworlds Skins Collection ✓ Join Now ✓

Assa 27-Mar-20 10:43 PM

alright, but do i like need to really zoom in and paint it?

@🎀mao🎀 your options: find a skin which is good enough for you, do it yourself, somehow get anyone to do it for you

Dune 27-Mar-20 10:43 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewforum.php?id=17

Graphics (Page 1) — Teeworlds Forum

Graphics (Page 1) — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:43 PM

i just would love black skins

Assa 27-Mar-20 10:44 PM

if you just want a skin to be fully black it's very easily doable with GIMP

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:45 PM

so, could i get a quick tutorial on GIMP?

site cant be reached

Assa 27-Mar-20 10:47 PM

nvermind side is broken

please just google for one or trial and error

but here is the link to the gimp software: https://www.gimp.org/

GIMP

GIMP - The GNU Image Manipulation Program: The Free and Open Source Image Editor

🎀mao🎀 27-Mar-20 10:48 PM

holy fuck finally they fixed the link for the black game skin download

alright thanks for everything but i already got it

Darwish 28-Mar-20 10:08 AM

Join my zCatch

Who wanna play n call

Souly 28-Mar-20 01:20 PM

casual ddrace gameplay

IndigoBug86125 28-Mar-20 05:46 PM

who likes Teeworlds?

Sonix 28-Mar-20 06:22 PM

none here

Trafalgar Law 28-Mar-20 06:22 PM

We are the hater discord server for teeworlds >:)

a gerdoe 29-Mar-20 09:14 PM

can someone help me with modern chat system in 0.7 tw?

fokkonaut 29-Mar-20 09:14 PM

what do you mean

a gerdoe 29-Mar-20 09:15 PM

eh

i just want to add command

with this command functional (edited)

a gerdoe 29-Mar-20 09:32 PM

ah okey

no one?

a gerdoe 29-Mar-20 09:52 PM

wrong channel i guess

Sonix 29-Mar-20 10:21 PM

I've made a 0.7 skin template in case someone needed it, feel free to use it

2

ChillerDragon 29-Mar-20 10:24 PM

thanks @Sonix can i publish that in my database?

Sonix 29-Mar-20 10:25 PM

sure

ChillerDragon 29-Mar-20 10:28 PM

did the gameskin grid change as well? (edited)

yea kinda i guess the ninja bar

@Sonix https://github.com/TeeworldsDB/graphictemplates/commit/9cff211b2eb52be4b29ffa64e92b6f4658ce8ad4

Add 0.7 skin grid by @Sonix- · TeeworldsDB/graphictemplates@9cff211

thanks for sharing ❤️

Trafalgar Law 29-Mar-20 10:34 PM

What are you using to make a skin in tw xD

ChillerDragon 29-Mar-20 10:34 PM

qpaw ofc

aka twskinmaker3000 https://chillerdragon.github.io/qpaw/

Trafalgar Law 29-Mar-20 10:35 PM

xdddddd

@ChillerDragon a skin foir u

ChillerDragon 29-Mar-20 10:36 PM

nice thats how my qpaw drawings also look like usually

Trafalgar Law 29-Mar-20 10:36 PM

xdddd

ChillerDragon 29-Mar-20 10:37 PM

actually most of my orga icons are made in qpaw

not all tho

Sonix 29-Mar-20 10:38 PM

skillz there

a gerdoe 29-Mar-20 10:41 PM

i think @Sonix is using illustrator or gimp (edited)

Sonix 29-Mar-20 10:41 PM

inkscape actually

a gerdoe 29-Mar-20 10:43 PM

yeah... nice choice xd

Deleted User 30-Mar-20 05:02 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446114313405726731/694029696144244806/image0.jpg

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4

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louis 30-Mar-20 10:14 PM

chilla vanilla LMFAO

osu keyboard btw

1

wavi 31-Mar-20 08:44 PM

ahoy!

Dune 31-Mar-20 08:46 PM

torille wavi

wavi 31-Mar-20 08:46 PM

kyllä kiitos! xD

Dune 31-Mar-20 08:47 PM

you're richrd?

wavi 31-Mar-20 08:47 PM

yes

Ryozuki 31-Mar-20 09:23 PM

@Dune will you release teeworlds 1.0 tomorrow?

jxsl13 31-Mar-20 09:23 PM

2.0

man, 1.0 was awesome.

Dune 31-Mar-20 09:29 PM

@Ryozuki what are you talking about, it was released 8 years ago

Souly 31-Mar-20 09:35 PM

is it going to be the same as in minecraft now?

teeworlds 0.10

Dune 31-Mar-20 09:43 PM

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Souly 31-Mar-20 09:55 PM

that april fools version looks better than i expected

that filter looks really cool

WingedTeam 01-Apr-20 09:26 AM

Deleted User 01-Apr-20 09:52 AM

I really want an offline version of regex101.com

Some tool that will make reading regex easier.

Dune 01-Apr-20 11:22 AM

regex is a write-only language ;)

jxsl13 01-Apr-20 02:08 PM

I think you don't need to be online anymore after that website has been loaded once.

fokkonaut 02-Apr-20 03:12 PM

when laws and also my server have hoster problems xd (edited)

Trafalgar Law 02-Apr-20 03:22 PM

Again ?

Or was this from last time

fokkonaut 02-Apr-20 03:36 PM

again

but its okay again

jxsl13 02-Apr-20 05:06 PM

do we have like one of those old gameplay mechanics maps, as we get quite a lot of new players lately

kinda visually show stuff with a map

would be nice

ChillerDragon 02-Apr-20 05:54 PM

yea the datacenter was rip for a short time today again

half tw 0.7 servers down

fokkonaut 02-Apr-20 08:31 PM

0.6 support is not even in the current running version of my server :D i think after i restarted the server it will fill up even faster due to the ddnet clients

I am also working on a 128player mod for 0.7, is kinda working at the moment :) Just needs some more fine tuning

fokkonaut 02-Apr-20 08:41 PM

fokkonaut 02-Apr-20 08:55 PM

Hey everybody, you can join my 0.7 server now with DDNet clients aswell! 149.202.127.134:7303

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Souly 02-Apr-20 10:46 PM

whaaaat

128 players

crazy

Trafalgar Law 02-Apr-20 10:46 PM

64 players

xd

Souly 02-Apr-20 10:47 PM

I am also working on a 128player mod for 0.7, is kinda working at the moment :) Just needs some more fine tuning

Trafalgar Law 02-Apr-20 10:47 PM

oh

Souly 02-Apr-20 10:47 PM

craaazy

Trafalgar Law 02-Apr-20 10:47 PM

I thought you mean scoreboard

Souly 02-Apr-20 10:47 PM

nah

i dont think that 128 playera will work on that map

this is gonna be total mess

ChillerDragon 02-Apr-20 11:29 PM

@Souly the map is empty af

There is tons of space

Souly 02-Apr-20 11:47 PM

@ChillerDragon but empty space where players cant really play (at least imo)

the race, play and farm areas are small

ChillerDragon 03-Apr-20 10:20 AM

there are plenty of unused farm areas

exotic ones

all over the map

Assa 03-Apr-20 02:50 PM

remember that not every square inch of a map has to be used, you can have areas outside the playing area just as decor

i have never seen "environmental storytelling" in teeworlds

Tezcan 03-Apr-20 03:06 PM

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Trafalgar Law 03-Apr-20 03:06 PM

Nice

oh @Learath2 you joined this discord

Assa 03-Apr-20 03:17 PM

i can't find them @Tezcan , only your fastcap servers

Learath2 03-Apr-20 03:18 PM

@Trafalgar Law yep, mostly so I don't have to upload screenshots

Tezcan 03-Apr-20 03:19 PM

@Assa Fastcap is a voteoption, join and change it to Race Short/Middle or Long

Assa 03-Apr-20 03:38 PM

I broke it

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Tezcan 03-Apr-20 03:43 PM

aiaiaiaiai im gonna look into it, thank you!

Assa 03-Apr-20 03:43 PM

I told you I would break it

Trafalgar Law 03-Apr-20 03:54 PM

Assa = Cheater

Assa 04-Apr-20 12:31 PM

@Tezcan i want to report a bug: you can't shoot when holding the scoreboard. This is unaccaptable for racing

Trafalgar Law 04-Apr-20 12:31 PM

Assa is a hater

Assa 04-Apr-20 12:31 PM

Teeworlds 0.7 default client

Dune 04-Apr-20 12:31 PM

huh, that's strange, how can server-side enforce that?

Assa 04-Apr-20 12:31 PM

i have no idea, it's a unique server gimmik

Dune 04-Apr-20 12:32 PM

Server shouldn't know about you opening the scoreboard

Assa 04-Apr-20 12:33 PM

i can reproduce it very easily, I could stream it if you want

I know that the server is a 0.6 and 0.7 sever and maybe there is an error in the protocol

Assa is a hater

@Trafalgar Law yes, i am a bug hater, those filthy things break stuff

heinrich5991 04-Apr-20 12:37 PM

server gets information about you having the scoreboard open

it's in the input flags

(same about menus open btw)

Dune 04-Apr-20 12:41 PM

TIL

Assa 04-Apr-20 12:43 PM

TIL? P.S.: weapon switichg doesn't work, too

heinrich5991 04-Apr-20 12:43 PM

today I learned

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bug @timakro I think

timakro 04-Apr-20 12:59 PM

it's not the player flags haha

will have to do some tracking down in the client i guess

Assa 04-Apr-20 01:14 PM

it has to be a server issue, it's working on other 0.7 servers

Zatline 04-Apr-20 06:59 PM

lmao

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Sonix 04-Apr-20 07:15 PM

Its the meta

ChillerDragon 04-Apr-20 07:25 PM

lmao 16 player scoreboard in 2020

Zatline 04-Apr-20 07:50 PM

I wonder maybe a scroll option could be helpful or pages (edited)

Dune 04-Apr-20 07:53 PM

Pages work best because mousescroll may be bound ingame

Zatline 04-Apr-20 07:55 PM

yea right

Assa 04-Apr-20 08:53 PM

+1

Souly 04-Apr-20 11:04 PM

there is more of this

i see everyone with virus type nicks on this server

ChillerDragon 04-Apr-20 11:49 PM

And how should one change pages without binding it to a key @Dune ?

Dune 04-Apr-20 11:49 PM

you bind it to a key, obviously

ChillerDragon 04-Apr-20 11:49 PM

It would overload my simple brain to change pages while playing ._.

Yea then you also have binds that might be used for something else already

Dune 04-Apr-20 11:50 PM

You can see that you can't bind scroll to a key, yet you can bind pages to a key

It's a bind, you can set it to whatever you want that doesn't conflict

ChillerDragon 04-Apr-20 11:50 PM

Ah

I thought it’s just a concept and also a scroll bar can be rebound

Dune 04-Apr-20 11:51 PM

You can't get a scrolling effect with keys, it looks bad

ChillerDragon 04-Apr-20 11:52 PM

But big f4 for keypresses on scoreboard. Holding the hook and tab hey while hanging somewhere and checking if mates already left is struggle enough. Then hitting another key to iterate the pages yikes

Dune 04-Apr-20 11:53 PM

Teeworlds isn't geared for more than 16players doing actual PvP shooting at each other

ChillerDragon 04-Apr-20 11:53 PM

Just use the awesome ddnet Scoreboard nobody ever had a problem with it

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Dune 04-Apr-20 11:53 PM

for other game modes, you don't need to be looking at everyone without stopping

ChillerDragon 04-Apr-20 11:53 PM

I don’t see pvp limit for 16

If the map is fine sky is the limit

Dune 04-Apr-20 11:54 PM

I know people who come from ddnet are used to their scoreboard, but as an outsider, I'm frankly not convinced that it won't look terrible + overlap with chat etc

64 people on a screen is a lot

maps are limited vertically, that's why people struggle to even get a 8v8 ctf map

ChillerDragon 04-Apr-20 11:54 PM

It’s not that ddnet users had get used to it

I had to get used to a lot of 0.7 things but not to ddnet scoreboard

Dune 04-Apr-20 11:55 PM

Well some mechanics like wrapping the chat on the left of the scoreboard would be broken, lower resolutions will probably break,

ChillerDragon 04-Apr-20 11:55 PM

Well deathmatch or team deathmatch works for sure

Never tried flag based with more than 16 so idk

Dune 04-Apr-20 11:56 PM

what happens in team games? when there is more than 32 players on a side?

I know it sounds silly rare but it has to be robust

If you can design a 64 player scoreboard that - changes size like the current one when going to 12+ - doesn't break anywhere - is readable I'm happy

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:00 AM

@ChillerDragon

jao 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

make the dune happy

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

@Ryozuki I wish teeworlds had more sound options

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

i love how tw devs always self impose limits

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

@Dune do you even zilly

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

@jao what u doin here

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

@ChillerDragon does zilly respect these three points?

jao 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

wat

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

@jao get out!

jao 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

wtf

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:01 AM

How does it not respect

jao 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

does it keep the chat wrapping mechanics?

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

@jao i literally never seen u here xd

jao 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

I don't know, I'm asking you

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

Eh Idk

Never had any problems

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

i never had such a small display

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

Im on FullHD tho

But chat is fine

jao 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

dune ranting on ddnet scoreboard without knowing it

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:02 AM

but ofc we gotta pleasure the 640x480 players

otherwise tw will be a shithole

xd

jao 05-Apr-20 12:03 AM

better keep low res than allow bigger teams

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:03 AM

I know what it looks like and I'm raising problems about it

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:03 AM

this is how the glorius ddnet client scoreboard looks

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:03 AM

Like I said, if you can design a scoreboard that meets these three points, I'm personally happy with it

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:03 AM

Nah I think it’s good you defend poor potato screens and people that have no voices here

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:03 AM

and yes it wraps chat

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:04 AM

But I think ddnet client is kinda known and tested so I guess it’s fine

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:04 AM

@ChillerDragon you are being dishonest, readability was one point of the three

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:04 AM

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:04 AM

Well readable on a assumed average resolution of FullHD @Dune

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:04 AM

say 1080

or

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:04 AM

Even tho 4K is a thing since years

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:04 AM

Teeworlds must work properly below FullHD, of course

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:04 AM

even 720 is fine

yeah it must work at 480p

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:05 AM

yeah

jao 05-Apr-20 12:05 AM

whats not readable about it

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:05 AM

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:05 AM

Do you have a 480p screenshot?

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:05 AM

In the issue

There is one I think

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:05 AM

Doesn't this one take the whole screen though? looks different

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:05 AM

its so small

nobody uses this

but it works fine

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:06 AM

readable

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:06 AM

Looks readable to me@

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:06 AM

xdd

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:06 AM

Ye

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:06 AM

this is the whole btw

jao 05-Apr-20 12:06 AM

lmao

edgar

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:06 AM

xd

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:07 AM

big dox

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 12:07 AM

eh its known dont worry

Learath2 05-Apr-20 12:16 AM

Who knows if this is readable, our screens would stretch this to shit, someone needs to try on an actual 480p screen

If they even make those anymore

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:18 AM

I think stretch is wrongly configured shouldn’t it just add some black borders

Also the window mode should not stretch it

Learath2 05-Apr-20 12:18 AM

well pixel densities are not what they used to be

we have a lot more pixels on the screen, thus our screens are denser, thus it actually looks ridiculously small on our screens

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:19 AM

Oh

Learath2 05-Apr-20 12:19 AM

we need a monitor with old thiccc pixels

ChillerDragon 05-Apr-20 12:20 AM

But when that monitor does a screenshot will it display different on current monitors?

Or do we need a professional photo of the actual screen

Learath2 05-Apr-20 12:21 AM

the screenshot should be the same

but it'll look different

Zatline 05-Apr-20 12:56 AM

ChillerDragon u must see and understand that it's not about making the game more suitable for some specific non-vanilla mode that happens to makes use of 64 players or what ever, vanilla tw has always been 16 players and that's just fine .. sure u could make names smaller, and smaller, and smaller till everyone fits in sure .. but there is a point where u reach a limit and 64 surly is the very upper limit. I personally find it overwhelming and for Teeworlds it's really not necessary to push that upper limit either .. from a UI designing perspectiv there is nothing worst than clustering the screen full with unecessery information

Zatline 05-Apr-20 01:07 AM

with that being said I'd prefer a scrollable scoreboard the most

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jxsl13 05-Apr-20 04:36 AM

vanilla supports 64 players, thus should support a scoreboard with that many players. has nothing to do with mods.

Learath2 05-Apr-20 10:05 AM

@Zatline if your opinion is that vanilla tw will always stick to 16 players, why do you care what the 64p UI looks like? That scoreboard has been around for 7 years now, it's legible (atleast as legible as the chat as the fontsize never goes smaller then the chat), it allows you to see all the information without breaking the flow of the game and that's the only thing needed from a scoreboard

I guess we are just talking to a brick wall at this point. So I guess we can implrment a paged one to say that vanilla actually supports 64p. Not like anyone playing on an actual 64p server will ever use the vanilla client

jao 05-Apr-20 10:13 AM

dune should play with ddnet client for a week to make up a good opinion

Zatline 05-Apr-20 10:23 AM

well yes tw supports 64 players so yes therefor it should allow an option to see all the players if there are 64 players ... but not all at once!

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 10:26 AM

"it's not about making the game more suitable for some specific non-vanilla mode" why not? vanilla is boring and player count confirms this

it should be all at once lol

jao 05-Apr-20 10:30 AM

vanilla isn’t boring it’s just high skill cap and hard to get going

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 10:33 AM

yeah sure

Zatline 05-Apr-20 10:35 AM

I prefer playing vanilla than some say ddrace all down to personal preference

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 10:36 AM

yeah but it doesnt matter what u prefer, the total count supports more mods than vanilla

vanilla = 10, modded = (131 - 10) = 121

the diference is there :)

and this is just for 0.7

on 0.6 there is 9 players in vanilla and 310 in modded

but u should continue focusing on the boring vanilla

Zatline 05-Apr-20 10:39 AM

that players migrate towards mods has always been the case only back in the days there were many different mods and player were more equaly distributed and there was no 64 players at all ... it's only now that DDrace is left as the one dominant mod that happens to use 64 players (for what reason even? it's not like the type is dependend to have 64 players anyway) (edited)

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 10:39 AM

lmao

u actually have 0 idea of ddrace

"that players migrate towards mods" its always been the case due to vanilla being boring after 10 mins

you just confirmed my statement

ddrace is a coop mod btw, you can finish maps with 20 ppl on your team

or more

it also improves way more the social aspect of the game

Zatline 05-Apr-20 10:42 AM

a spamed chat of 64 players talking sure that must be wonderfull I imagine

Ryozuki 05-Apr-20 10:43 AM

as i said you have 0 idea xD

Learath2 05-Apr-20 11:44 AM

@Zatline how about you don't make assumptions about things you have no way of knowing? It's not that abnormal to play with around 30 people in the larger maps on ddrace. Server sizes grew with user demand not because the developers were having a pissing contest

As I said we should just implement a paged one for vanilla client as there is no point discussing this when everyone is so hellbent on their opinion

We will release a client with the proper featureset in due time anyway and @ChillerDragon already has one that people can use for the time being

Trafalgar Law 05-Apr-20 11:47 AM

@Learath2 Not only @ChillerDragon also @fokkonaut with his F-Client ;)

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:13 PM

@Learath2 I feel like repeating myself a lot, but I'm personally happy with any scoreboard that is robust (does not break in rare scenarios), evolutive (appropriately changes size for small servers, like the current one does) and readable. Pages is the least headache way for me, but if people feel like going through the UI mess to make that work with 32 or 64p, that's all good by me

Assa 05-Apr-20 12:51 PM

@jxsl13 note: vanilla supports 64 clients, with 16 players and rest spectators thus the 16 player scoreboard limit

Dune 05-Apr-20 12:57 PM

The scoreboard was never meant to stay 16players @Assa

Assa 05-Apr-20 01:06 PM

now this calls for an update

in the assa client i implemented a scrollable scoreboard, it was just the default scoreboard which more players and you could scroll the ui up and down

Trafalgar Law 05-Apr-20 01:07 PM

You have a client ?

Assa 05-Apr-20 01:07 PM

I had in 0.6

I think the scoreboard just has to show all the playernames in the server and you need to switch between pages, maybe with pageup, pagedown, pos1 and end?

Learath2 05-Apr-20 03:20 PM

@Dune you find yourself in the same argument because we fundamentally seem to disagree on what it means for a UI to be "readable". We say it's plenty legible, you say it's not, rinse and repeat.

Dune 05-Apr-20 03:20 PM

you say it's not

where?

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1828#issuecomment-604951497

did you miss my last reply?

Learath2 05-Apr-20 03:27 PM

Oh, I actually did

Or rather didn't read it quite that well.

Either way, the vanilla lot doesnt exactly seem to enjoy the large scoreboard so we should probably implement something paged for them

Dune 05-Apr-20 03:30 PM

@Learath2 As long as it is evolutive (looks similarly to what we have now on small player count), it wouldn't be an issue for the "vanilla lot", as they play on <16p servers

Learath2 05-Apr-20 03:31 PM

Well that's how it's implemented on both chiller and fokkonaut's clients

Dune 05-Apr-20 03:34 PM

I'm dubious on how they fare with team games though (especially since teams can be imbalanced right?). I think all ddrace/city game modes are not team modes, so the problem doesn't exist.

So I'll tell you honestly, if I were to implement it myself, I would go with pages because I feel like it would be a brainfuck to try to make it work properly in all situations. If someone is willing to go through that brainfuck, that's fine by me

Learath2 05-Apr-20 03:47 PM

well idk of any 64p teamgames where such a heavy imbalance should be allowed, but we could fall back to a paged scoreboard for teamgames

fokkonaut 05-Apr-20 04:30 PM

team gamemodes have 16 slots only, so 8 on each side. nobys server allows 32 players, but i think only 16 ingame too, no problem there

Learath2 05-Apr-20 04:45 PM

I think the point is that we want a scoreboard that can handle every situation

fokkonaut 05-Apr-20 05:01 PM

i think the ddnet scoreboard can handle 32p team mode

so can the F-Client one

I think

🎀mao🎀 05-Apr-20 10:03 PM

https://tenor.com/view/hardon-boner-erection-excited-gif-5083450

Deleted User 06-Apr-20 07:23 PM

what the fuck

jxsl13 06-Apr-20 11:07 PM

rip

noby 07-Apr-20 01:14 AM

this ip is spamming the 0.6 master list

and also spoofing/proxying servers

yall should masterban it @heinrich5991 @Dune

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:15 AM

0.6 be like really dead

noby 07-Apr-20 01:15 AM

no u

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:15 AM

._. rip

my eyes

Trafalgar Law 07-Apr-20 01:15 AM

@noby

noby 07-Apr-20 01:15 AM

pls stop

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:15 AM

0.6 be like the exploit apocalypse with lots of zombies and undead

noby 07-Apr-20 01:16 AM

nah

Trafalgar Law 07-Apr-20 01:16 AM

xd

noby 07-Apr-20 01:16 AM

im sure u could do the same thing on 0.7..

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:16 AM

some living beings fighting for survival there

noby 07-Apr-20 01:16 AM

my fng server on 0.6 has more players than every 0.7fng server combined usually :X

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:17 AM

has a reason, I guess

you gotta advertise 0.7

maybe it will become less

noby 07-Apr-20 01:17 AM

i dont like 0.7

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:17 AM

noby 07-Apr-20 01:17 AM

i mean its still teeworlds, i like teeworlds

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:17 AM

dedpepe

noby 07-Apr-20 01:17 AM

but i think its worse than 0.6

i get noticeably lower fps, my fans spin, i cant change my screen resolution!! so i cant see what im typing in chat

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:18 AM

well, 0.6 had like 10 years to evolve?

noby 07-Apr-20 01:18 AM

and no antiping, and crashbugs

Trafalgar Law 07-Apr-20 01:18 AM

noby I think you don't like 0.7 because there is no client like ddnet

noby 07-Apr-20 01:18 AM

thats part of it

i copypasted antiping

and it works ok i guess..

but it still doesnt fix the awful fps or the resolution bug

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:19 AM

I got the feeling that 0.7 has a worse ping in general ._.

but dunno why

noby 07-Apr-20 01:20 AM

eh idk

Trafalgar Law 07-Apr-20 01:20 AM

Nah xD

noby 07-Apr-20 01:20 AM

i live in usa im not gonna notice ±20ms

its a fps thing

Trafalgar Law 07-Apr-20 01:20 AM

Rip u noby

noby 07-Apr-20 01:20 AM

and my laptop fans spin up to max speed

Trafalgar Law 07-Apr-20 01:20 AM

bigPing

noby 07-Apr-20 01:20 AM

even when capping fps to 144

where ddnet gives 350fps ez with no fan spin

i have 120ms to most servers its totally fine with antiping

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:20 AM

my macbook kinda escalates when I start tw there

._.

noby 07-Apr-20 01:21 AM

yeah but thats something that they introduced

either i fucked up my settings or something about 0.7 is making it waste more resources

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:21 AM

well, it used a higher resolution of assets ._. but I dunno about the rendering stuff, so no comment :/

noby 07-Apr-20 01:22 AM

perhaps the most annoying part of 0.7

is the fact that

since i cant change the resolution, its stuck at max always

i have to guess what im typing in chat

since i can only see the top 10% of the first line lol

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:24 AM

learath2 has been doing lots of macOS cancer under the hood digging lately ._.

let's pray

noby 07-Apr-20 01:25 AM

if theres anyone whos gonan figure it out

itll be him or heinrich xd

jxsl13 07-Apr-20 01:25 AM

hm hm

noby 07-Apr-20 01:39 AM

today i was debugging a fps issue with heinrich and im pretty sure it has something to do with the high dpi support, at least for newer versions of ddnet

possibly the same type of issue on 0.7 but no idea

Learath2 07-Apr-20 09:49 AM

@noby it has to be stuck at max unless you are running it windowed, and never toggle to fullscreen (toggling to fullscreen at low resolution breaks macOS)

or you are running my experimental patch of SDL with the runtime resizing patch

Lunie 07-Apr-20 10:40 AM

ку

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Dune 07-Apr-20 11:01 AM

@Learath2 Do you know if all these Mac issues were introduced by SDL2, or existed before? Because it seems ddnet does not have these issues (don't they use SDL2 now?)

Learath2 07-Apr-20 11:09 AM

ddnet uses a borderless window instead of actual fullscreen on macOS

cmb 07-Apr-20 08:19 PM

is it possible to modify teeworlds, so you can use the game without using OS libaries (load the whole game from the usb-stick)

???

heinrich5991 07-Apr-20 08:20 PM

@cmb you can download the zip from https://www.teeworlds.com/ and put the extracted folder on a flash drive

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Trafalgar Law 08-Apr-20 02:36 AM

TeeSlayer was online

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 04:43 AM

@Luu Hey sorry for ping, but can you accept/add me? i would like to talk with you if possible, thanks (edited)

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 01:19 PM

@Luu

heinrich5991 08-Apr-20 01:39 PM

@Deleted User please drop the use of nazi symbolisms in your nick/profile picture

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 01:41 PM

@heinrich5991 it has nothing to do with nazism

it's from a game warhammer (edited)

heinrich5991 08-Apr-20 01:43 PM

@Deleted User https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross

@Deleted User you have time until 2pm UTC+2 to remove it

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 01:48 PM

@heinrich5991 yes i have knowledge about it, but i think it stupid in my opinion you come talk just because i use a historic symbol, original the symbol was from kingdom of prussia, but before this, were used by christian knights that were known as malta cross, i need remove by cause Discord Tos or what? i'm not part this bad person if you think that... but i understand

heinrich5991 08-Apr-20 01:48 PM

I realize that the symbol was used before the nazis, so was the swastika

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 01:48 PM

Ah i understand

yeah my bad then if you dont want me, i'll be going to leave server in soon

i just need contact luu

jxsl13 08-Apr-20 01:49 PM

heinrich5991 08-Apr-20 01:49 PM

however, it is currently associated with nazis in germany; it doesn't really matter whether it was also used before that

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 01:50 PM

Yes you guys understand it as symbol of ''hate''

but too and symbol of communism?

too about iron cross german, it was used very well before nazi germany, you can look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_Order

Teutonic Order

The Order of Brothers of the German House of Saint Mary in Jerusalem (official names: Latin: Ordo domus Sanctæ Mariæ Theutonicorum Hierosolymitanorum, German: Orden der Brüder vom Deutschen Haus der Heiligen Maria in Jerusalem), commonly the Teutonic Order (Deutscher Orden, De...

jxsl13 08-Apr-20 01:51 PM

I literally don't care, just read the wikipedia article. I am not into nazi bullshit, so I don't interpret it as anything. if others do, then they might uave a point. (edited)

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 01:51 PM

ah i see

jxsl13 08-Apr-20 01:51 PM

have

I am not into

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 01:51 PM

Yeah its sometimes bad that symbols become bad by cause wars or whatever, they should do same to communism, and other things, but too i dont care about

jxsl13 08-Apr-20 01:51 PM

nazi bullshit

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 01:51 PM

i see its not a problem

im well friendly person

heinrich5991 08-Apr-20 01:52 PM

then please be so friendly and drop those symbols from your profile picture (edited)

Deleted User 08-Apr-20 01:52 PM

alright

a gerdoe 08-Apr-20 02:15 PM

lol

i didnt know that picture is nazi swaston

brr

in my country there was only one symbol

jxsl13 08-Apr-20 02:16 PM

A giant picture of a cat. I remember that one. (edited)

Ryozuki 08-Apr-20 02:20 PM

"they should do same to communism" u speak like a nazi tbh

heinrich5991 08-Apr-20 02:20 PM

(kicked already)

Ryozuki 08-Apr-20 02:20 PM

reported to discord

a gerdoe 08-Apr-20 02:25 PM

union Soviet {};

(edited)

Assa 08-Apr-20 02:32 PM

class Proletariat : public WorkingClass

(edited)

jxsl13 08-Apr-20 02:51 PM

class CommunistCat : public Barsik {}

:'(

a gerdoe 08-Apr-20 05:00 PM

class CProletariat : public CWorkingClass {}; class CCommunist : public CProletariat {}; class CCat : public CCommunist {}; class CBarsik : public CCat {};

Learath2 08-Apr-20 05:29 PM

Didnt even know the iron cross had association with the nazis

Isnt it just a german military award?

Well TIL anyway

a gerdoe 08-Apr-20 06:26 PM

+

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 04:39 AM

The scoreboard redesign was previously discussed, anyways, this is probably one of the best solutions to solve the issue of a fully functional and eye friendly 64 scoreboard:

a gerdoe 10-Apr-20 07:55 AM

uhm

nice

ChillerDragon 10-Apr-20 08:37 AM

Good job @1stDecadeTW We should probably also think about the statboard

Dune 10-Apr-20 11:39 AM

@1stDecadeTW this was discussed and has a number of issues. Scrolling is not a great idea because some players play with mousewheel (to fire, especially)

Scrolling with keys sounds awkward to me

Most 64p game modes are not team games, for which you would do even more scrolling (edited)

noby 10-Apr-20 12:00 PM

u can make different binds for scroll up/down or pageup/pagedown

only showing 1/4 of the players is bad

Dune 10-Apr-20 12:07 PM

yeah, but then it's the page system

Assa 10-Apr-20 12:59 PM

@1stDecadeTW first of all, good job, this looks good, i just see 2 problems: sovling scrolling and weapon switching and I think the individual height depending on the player skin looks ill formated, i would prefer a static size for each player

on the last screenshot the clan is not alligned, but the player name is?!

noby 10-Apr-20 01:15 PM

is there already a way to see all of the players on 0.7?

whats wrong with pages

Assa 10-Apr-20 01:18 PM

do you mean all of the players activly playing currently or all of the players in general?

Dune 10-Apr-20 01:20 PM

@noby I'm fine with pages, but the ddnet peeps dislike it and want a solution with every player visible at once

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 01:20 PM

@noby with other clients yes

Dune 10-Apr-20 01:21 PM

which could be done, but is tricky

Assa 10-Apr-20 01:22 PM

@Dune i was thinking of a solution where you only see 16 players (with all informations) but all player names somewhere next to it, I personally don't need to know the ping of all 64 players in the server

Dune 10-Apr-20 01:23 PM

Good part of the difficulty is that Teeworlds lets you play while you view your scoreboard, so we can't make use of the mouse at all

noby 10-Apr-20 01:24 PM

assa that is good solution

Assa 10-Apr-20 01:24 PM

maybe press strg to get the mouse in scoreboard?

noby 10-Apr-20 01:24 PM

and why cant there be binds for +nextpage +prevpage like there is for spectate next/previous

Dune 10-Apr-20 01:24 PM

not intuitive, might as well use keybinds

@noby there are no issues with a paged scoreboard that I see

poko 10-Apr-20 03:19 PM

There are no more Ball / Tennis servers around, are there?

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 03:55 PM

@Assa @Dune - Tee skin size could be set at 25% in all scoreboards, that's ok. - You should be able to see, at least 1/2 of ingame players at once (I mean, 32 of 64 players), the rest of them must be placed in a second page. Note that, the max number of pages is 2, which is convenient for a quickly look in an intense game. - Tab + scroll must be a prestablished and unmodifidable composed bind. This mean that you can continue using scroll to shoot or whatever other function you want, but the combination of tab + scroll must be restricted to change the scoreboard pages. I personally don't see a better way to quickly and comfortably way to change pages than tab + scroll. I wonder if this would break the tab bind (to see the scoreboard)

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 03:56 PM

There are no more Ball / Tennis servers around, are there?

@poko No, sadly not

I miss it too :(

Dune 10-Apr-20 03:56 PM

If people shoot with the mouse wheel (e.g. @Captain_AMN because of his carpal tunnel), they can't use the scoreboard then

Yeah I hope someone ports them @Trafalgar Law :(

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 03:56 PM

U :P

poko 10-Apr-20 03:57 PM

Are there none because they're rather unpopular or is the gamemode incompatible with the latest version? (edited)

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 03:57 PM

You have to port the mod to 0.7

The latest version ist 0.6

Dune 10-Apr-20 03:57 PM

@poko because no one did the work. I'd love to play some ball

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 03:58 PM

https://github.com/scosu/teeworlds/tree/ball0.6.1

scosu/teeworlds

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to scosu/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

poko 10-Apr-20 03:58 PM

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 03:58 PM

If people shoot with the mouse wheel (e.g. @Captain_AMN because of his carpal tunnel), they can't use the scoreboard then

@Dune composed binds break the individual key binds?

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 03:58 PM

If someone wants to port it

:X

Dune 10-Apr-20 03:58 PM

@1stDecadeTW no, but scrolling isn't a bind

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 03:59 PM

Is it possible to make it a bind? That would solve it all...

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 03:59 PM

Page up and page down

like in f1

Dune 10-Apr-20 03:59 PM

Probably not, scrolling with a key is awkward

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a gerdoe 10-Apr-20 03:59 PM

make the scoreboard which will be active when tab + (scroll bind) will be as standart

Dune 10-Apr-20 03:59 PM

@Trafalgar Law then you're better off with pages

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 04:00 PM

Ah I thought we are talking about pages

a gerdoe 10-Apr-20 04:01 PM

pressing tab + press scoreboard scroll activating button and scroll xd

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 04:01 PM

No

Bad idea

a gerdoe 10-Apr-20 04:01 PM

like cs:go sb

Dune 10-Apr-20 04:01 PM

no one will figure how to use that alone

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 04:02 PM

But then you can't switch your weapons

a gerdoe 10-Apr-20 04:02 PM

dont press tab

xd

Trafalgar Law 10-Apr-20 04:02 PM

No

I press often tab

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 04:03 PM

no one will figure how to use that alone

@Dune what about: - Tab + spacebar: change pages (and as said before, a prestablished composed bind no user modifiable)

Dune 10-Apr-20 04:04 PM

A page system is no problem to implement, you can have binds that are only active when the scoreboard is up @1stDecadeTW

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 04:06 PM

That means you are ok with pages and tab + spacebar bind to change pages?

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 04:14 PM

And which of the three page system (dotted, simple pages, ~~scrollbar~~ (discarded)) did you like the most or is the most viable? I'd like to get a second opinion of @Zatline (edited)

Dune 10-Apr-20 04:15 PM

the only viable options I saw are the ddnet-like scoreboard, and the page system

the "zoom out" ddnet scoreboard is tricky to make but maybe possible

what do you mean by dotted @1stDecadeTW

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 04:17 PM

Dotted pages:

Assa 10-Apr-20 04:22 PM

pull request: add second scroll wheel to mouse

2

@1stDecadeTW dotted pages look awesome ^.^

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 04:24 PM

I know, and it can be placed anywhere in the scoreboard and save space

(edited)

Dune 10-Apr-20 04:24 PM

Oh, I didn't notice those were pages

Assa 10-Apr-20 04:25 PM

I still think the space of each player should be static and equal, why not make the tee skin dynamic sized?

Dune 10-Apr-20 04:25 PM

what's the difference with regular pages?

Assa 10-Apr-20 04:26 PM

@Dune the beaty

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Zatline 10-Apr-20 04:26 PM

@1stDecadeTW looking at all these screenshots I like the dotted one the most, but can't decide if "written number" or "simple dots" .. the argument for dots would be their simplicity but written number may be easier to interpret (edited)

Assa 10-Apr-20 04:27 PM

you could add an animation to the dots making it even more awesome

Dune 10-Apr-20 04:27 PM

I mean, that's detail right

Assa 10-Apr-20 04:29 PM

No, it's absolutly neccessary :p

1stDecadeTW 10-Apr-20 04:32 PM

I personally prefer simple dots, maybe the animation to the dots make them easy to interpret (even though, we all are used to see dots as pages in our phones)

jxsl13 10-Apr-20 04:46 PM

No person will ever understand that without being told how to use it. the user experience is not stupidly simple in this case.

the dotted variant

the usage of phones is to swipe left or right, which is indicated by horizontally placed dots. if one wants to swipe from top to bottom, this is usually indicated by vertically placed dots. As this is a mouse and keyboard user interface, I don't think the dots are easily interpreted as pages. (edited)

vertical dots(below each other) plus pageUP/pageDown while holding your scoreboard key(tab) would make sense, as this is already used in chat, f1,f2 console. Scolling seems to interfer with weapon switching too much, imo. (edited)

a gerdoe 10-Apr-20 05:02 PM

@jxsl13

jxsl13 10-Apr-20 05:03 PM

this hits deeply.

a gerdoe 10-Apr-20 05:03 PM

ah so deep

jxsl13 10-Apr-20 05:04 PM

this variant with the pages being indicated, in the middle down there. it seems quite self explaining

preferrably below each other, but I dunno where to place that or how that should look in order to look good. (with tab + pageUP/pageDown)

I think the term for pressing UP while the UI actually moves to the RIGHT (page indicator) is something called along the lines of cognitive dissonance.

Assa 10-Apr-20 05:30 PM

@jxsl13 most humans are normally reading from left to right and from top to bottom, so you can (argubly) infer pagedown with switiching to the right

a gerdoe 10-Apr-20 05:31 PM

japanese comics left channel

Assa 10-Apr-20 05:33 PM

the words most, normally and arguably have a meaning. Nothing stops you from using a vertical dot layout, too 

a gerdoe 10-Apr-20 05:34 PM

xd

just kidding

jxsl13 10-Apr-20 06:02 PM

you do not expect something to go to the right when you scroll down or press pageDown. ofc you can see the effect and live with it, but initially it's simply not what you expect to happen.

Sonix 10-Apr-20 07:44 PM

I mean is it really important to see all the 64 players in the scoreboard? I'd show only the Top1 (or top5), You and some other players in a position close to you, and last player. If something, i'd add friends too. That's all I need to see

Same for statsboard, eventually screenshot the full scoreboard or multiple pages if you wanna check the stats some other time

ChillerDragon 10-Apr-20 07:54 PM

Well many ddrace players depend on this. So this forces a fork of a ddrace client again even for features that could git in the vanilla client. And at some point ddrace devs will just stop trying to get fixes into vanilla thats why the vanilla client is behind ddnet client feature wise.

jxsl13 10-Apr-20 07:56 PM

0.7 decided to support up to 64 ingame players, I think it's necessary. one way or another.

Dune 10-Apr-20 07:59 PM

@Sonix the current scoreboard was always meant to be a temporary workaround until someone implements a 64-player scoreboard. People shouldn't have to use a custom client to see 64p

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Learath2 10-Apr-20 08:59 PM

Except for the very unbalanced team game situation where there are more then 32 players on 1 side, I think it's easy enough to design a scoreboard

Well actually doesnt really need to be too imbalanced, anything over 32 is trouble

Dune 10-Apr-20 08:59 PM

I agree @Learath2 , but it needs a fallback

Learath2 10-Apr-20 09:29 PM

Yeah, I was just putting the goal out there for anyone who wants to work on a design. So they know which part the problem is

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Trafalgar Law 11-Apr-20 02:19 PM

Anyone here who has knowledge about virtualbox?

LordSk 11-Apr-20 02:49 PM

@Trafalgar Law ask your question, if someone is able they will answer

Trafalgar Law 11-Apr-20 02:50 PM

Well, I tryed to set up a ubuntu OS on virtualbox and if I try to start there teeworlds I'm stuck with my mouse and I can move it only 45°

heinrich5991 11-Apr-20 03:58 PM

in what mode do you have the virtualbox?

fullscreeen? windowed? seemless?

seamless(?)?

Trafalgar Law 11-Apr-20 04:07 PM

fullscreen and seamless

yea

reaper 11-Apr-20 05:09 PM

LIVE TEEWORLDS ADVENTURES MAPPING https://www.twitch.tv/teeworlds

Teeworlds - Twitch

[DE/ENG] Teeworlds-Adventures | Leveling, crushing, destroying... #reapGUILD

Ryozuki 11-Apr-20 05:54 PM

a bit sad u took over tw name in twitch

a gerdoe 11-Apr-20 06:03 PM

ye

thats it...

reaper 11-Apr-20 06:28 PM

That is talked with @Dune i am allowed to do that. (edited)

He´s ok with that.

Dune 11-Apr-20 06:29 PM

I said okay with the advertising, I'm not sure if using twitch.tv/teeworlds for personal streams is ideal... but I don't think it's a big deal either

We don't really have any use for an official livestream channel

Ryozuki 11-Apr-20 07:31 PM

cringy

Skayland 11-Apr-20 07:41 PM

@Trafalgar Law if you are on windows there is ways to run ubuntu as a program without the need of a virtual box

@Trafalgar Law anyways, for virtual box download a version from this https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop, then inside your virtual box create a virtual hard disk (or use a separate hard disk you have) and run the iso

Trafalgar Law 11-Apr-20 07:45 PM

Nah thats not the problem

I have it already

My mouse is just full bugged

when I open tw

:D

Skayland 11-Apr-20 07:45 PM

did you enable the graphic settings?

on your vitual box settings there should be stuff like hardware acceleration or 3D, you should activate these stuff, otherwise its gonna be a bit slow

have in mind that using one video card for (technically) 2 computers is not recommended, so virtual machine gaming is always gonna have some problems

TsFreddie 11-Apr-20 07:47 PM

what is "filter category"?

Skayland 11-Apr-20 07:59 PM

is filter

but category

Dune 11-Apr-20 08:01 PM

Teeworlds, Favorites, All are filter categories @TsFreddie @Skyrx

TsFreddie 11-Apr-20 08:01 PM

make sense

thx

Terrorka (Tetra) 11-Apr-20 08:18 PM

@Dune

Is there something I don't understand?

Dune 11-Apr-20 08:19 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) it's a warning that you have ( ) in the text. It's okay if it's needed

Terrorka (Tetra) 11-Apr-20 08:21 PM

Okay... I'll see what it looks like in the release.

Dune 11-Apr-20 08:22 PM

though it is too late then

you can check what it looks like using the binaries at https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/actions/runs/75456681 @Terrorka (Tetra)

a gerdoe 11-Apr-20 08:31 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) xd опять за старое поехали)

Terrorka (Tetra) 11-Apr-20 08:32 PM

@a gerdoe Ага, я вроде все перевёл но там надо в самой игре смотреть))

a gerdoe 11-Apr-20 08:33 PM

@a gerdoe я помню там ошибка была, скорее всего, ты найдешь мое имя там)

xD

Terrorka (Tetra) 11-Apr-20 08:33 PM

)

a gerdoe 11-Apr-20 08:34 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) эх, был бы еще один татарин, который мог бы помочь с переводом. в прошлый раз я из-за этого все и забросил

@Terrorka (Tetra) счас из-за карантина буду по новой все клепать :D

Terrorka (Tetra) 11-Apr-20 08:35 PM

@a gerdoe При чем тут тартаро-мангольское игого?

a gerdoe 11-Apr-20 08:35 PM

@Terrorka (Tetra) ибо я на татарский перевожу тишку

Terrorka (Tetra) 11-Apr-20 08:36 PM

@a gerdoe уууу, понятно... Ну ладно, хватит писать в спойлерах, чат то английский)

TsFreddie 11-Apr-20 08:38 PM

Skayland 11-Apr-20 08:41 PM

those spoiler tags look so annoying

heinrich5991 11-Apr-20 09:08 PM

@a gerdoe @Terrorka (Tetra) english only

Terrorka (Tetra) 11-Apr-20 09:12 PM

@heinrich5991 We know, so in the last message, I said, "stop writing here, chatting English."

TsFreddie 12-Apr-20 04:10 AM

Souly 12-Apr-20 04:28 PM

AkaFad 12-Apr-20 05:31 PM

does anyone know how can i change the weapons spawning time ? please ping me to answer me

Assa 12-Apr-20 07:21 PM

answered in pm

AkaFad 12-Apr-20 10:41 PM

thanks

flyingfisch 13-Apr-20 06:17 AM

There used to be a wwiii server with vehicles long ago, is it gone now or is there a similar server around?

noby 13-Apr-20 06:29 AM

there is a battlefield server on 0.6 if thats what u r asking about

flyingfisch 13-Apr-20 06:30 AM

Might be, I'll check tomorrow

Thank you

noby 13-Apr-20 06:31 AM

46.39.247.27:8315

idk who owns it

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 08:21 AM

private sources

no owner :D

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 13-Apr-20 02:56 PM

hi

ShootXen 13-Apr-20 05:51 PM

when do we get anticheat?

Dune 13-Apr-20 05:51 PM

in an open-source game?

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 05:53 PM

xd

check up nobys server

and olis

ShootXen 13-Apr-20 06:03 PM

make it close src in 0.8

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:04 PM

noby's server is closed source

if it was open source the anti cheat could potentially be breached

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:05 PM

ddnet in 0.6 is also running noby's anti bot without being closed source

ShootXen 13-Apr-20 06:05 PM

wanna see anticheat like VALORANT

pc starts already with anticheat software as admin

lmao

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:05 PM

...

yeah

portable

2d game

will autolaunch (edited)

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:06 PM

@Learath2 sure? idk when that happened but ok

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:06 PM

for anticheat

ShootXen 13-Apr-20 06:06 PM

wait gonna look for the reddit thread

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:06 PM

:D

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:06 PM

im sure noby's server files are closed source, he may just got access to ddnet servers, but its still closed source

ShootXen 13-Apr-20 06:07 PM

@a gerdoe https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/g02ggb/valorant_anticheat_starts_upon_computer_boot_and/

r/pcgaming - Valorant anti-cheat starts upon computer boot and runs...

7,560 votes and 948 comments so far on Reddit

the word of "trust us" from Riot Games

can't be trusted at all

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:07 PM

uhm

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:07 PM

is valorant a game or an anticheat system for several games?

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:07 PM

game

just game

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:07 PM

@Skayland it happened a month ago with https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2081

Add support for dynamically loading an antibot module by heinrich59...

Support for this feature is turned off by default. This feature allows to integrate with noby's anticheat feature.

ShootXen 13-Apr-20 06:07 PM

game but the anticheat that it uses

is really persistent

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:08 PM

it's really a breach of privacy, wtf

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:08 PM

vpn defend also opensource

ShootXen 13-Apr-20 06:08 PM

Riot Games is owned by Tencent

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:09 PM

@Learath2 but then its still closed source and loading it as a module, isnt it?

like an addon

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:09 PM

but anticheat feature - open

heinrich5991 13-Apr-20 06:09 PM

the ddnet source code is also still open

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:09 PM

Yeah the antibot source itself isn't public but it's an example how a game can be open source but still have an antibot

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:10 PM

sounds good

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:10 PM

skayland: okey, i gonna break it

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:10 PM

i have noby's source

xd

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:10 PM

xd

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:11 PM

i dont need to break anything, and im not doing it

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:11 PM

rofl

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:11 PM

what you can't have with open source is client side anticheat, whatever you do can be just mimic'd

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:11 PM

my point is: you cant have open source anticheat, or people will find a way around it (edited)

heinrich5991 13-Apr-20 06:11 PM

@Learath2 doubt

I have an idea on how to implement it in a similar way as the ddnet anticheat

in a privacy-preserving way

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:12 PM

well we can't even verify that it's running our binary

heinrich5991 13-Apr-20 06:12 PM

of course not

not directly, at least

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:12 PM

maybe using those flags used to prevent zoom in certain gametypes?

add them to the closed source module

a new kind of flag to check if the client has the anticheat or not

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:13 PM

and

ban him?

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:13 PM

yea?

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:13 PM

its not good

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:14 PM

why not

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:14 PM

the client can just send any assortment of flags it wants...

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:14 PM

+

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:14 PM

but they dont know which flag is being used to check for anticheat because the flag checking/sending is being handled inside the closed anticheat files

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:14 PM

opensource

dont forget it

they will know everything

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:15 PM

you cant have opensource anticheat

we are talking about a closed source anticheat addon

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:15 PM

no addons on tee xd

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:15 PM

huh

scroll up

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:15 PM

even with a closed source antibot, they just need to check the flags on a server

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:15 PM

and see the github thing

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:16 PM

its just code module

not an addon

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:16 PM

but its still closed source anticheat

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:16 PM

uhm no

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:16 PM

the code there is just to implement it

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:16 PM

nobys server still private - yes (edited)

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:16 PM

you think noby's anticheat is only 400 lines? lmao

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:16 PM

no ofc

stop stop

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:17 PM

the open source side is doing calls to a closed source anticheat addon/module

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:17 PM

what do you mean at all

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:17 PM

thats what is happening

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:17 PM

i didnt understand u

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:17 PM

lemme do a draw for you

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:17 PM

but

opensource side can send whatever it wants (edited)

or both sides - private

or no

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:19 PM

flags won't work because at the end of the day, the open source part of the client would be responsible to send the flag

you can just intercept that and send the same flags

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:19 PM

no

i will do another drawing

@a gerdoe this is happening

the anticheat is handled inside a closed environment, and only the falses and positives go out of it

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:21 PM

but if u sending flags to the closed source

u must or encrypt flags (edited)

or do another shit (edited)

Dune 13-Apr-20 06:22 PM

obfuscating the client does not work because of mitm attacks so you can have some black-box detection algorithms on the server, but meh

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:22 PM

encrypt*

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:23 PM

well there are ways to avoid mitm

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:23 PM

@Learath2 this is what i mean

Dune 13-Apr-20 06:23 PM

without encryption?

@Learath2

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:23 PM

client and server both would have a closed side for anticheat, and the flags for anticheat would be inside that closed side only

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:23 PM

how do you want implement closed source to the opensource

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:24 PM

heinrich already did it

did you see the github thing above? told you to scroll up

all you gotta do now is encrypt the anticheat flags

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:25 PM

well I don't really like talking about possible anticheat measures publicly

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:26 PM

@Dune do you think what i say is possible?

client and server both would have a closed side for anticheat, and the flags for anticheat would be inside that closed side only and flags are sent with encryption

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:27 PM

@Skayland how

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:27 PM

what you mean how?

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:27 PM

now antibot thing is opensource

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:28 PM

antibot is not opensource

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:28 PM

part of antibot

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:28 PM

not at all

its just calls

those 400 lines are just calls

you cant do much with just the name of some libs

you think noby would accept making his antibot open source? xddd

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:33 PM

where the lib? xd

Skayland 13-Apr-20 06:33 PM

????

did you even read the code?

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 06:34 PM

i read it (edited)

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 06:49 PM

I'd prefer to have teehistorian and some anti cheat models(ml) that can be passed around, which would not rely on any closed source stuff. It would allow to crowd source bot input data and also allow ML people to work with that data in order to create better detection models. I kind of doubt such models can be easily reverse engineered, as there might simply be too many variables to do so(not a ml person). :( give me the open source variant!

the trained model files could be "closed source" (edited)

Deleted User 13-Apr-20 06:52 PM

ugh. why do you even bother with anticheat crap?

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:53 PM

because it's not fun to play with people zooming around using aimbot?

also it's fun to think about theoretically

heinrich5991 13-Apr-20 06:55 PM

@jxsl13 why do you think ML is well-suited for this anticheat problem domain?

Deleted User 13-Apr-20 06:55 PM

well, I'm used to check manually against bots. If I see something weird those people simple get a ban. less work than an antibot system.

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:56 PM

it's easy to spot a bad bot, that's not the case with better engineered ones

Deleted User 13-Apr-20 06:57 PM

they are relative rare in teeworlds. but if you begin with any kind of antibot, you will start a race... (edited)

heinrich5991 13-Apr-20 06:58 PM

yup

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:58 PM

maybe on 0.7 it's rare

heinrich5991 13-Apr-20 06:58 PM

yup @ starting a race

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:58 PM

we should ask noby how many bots he finds in a day on his fng server

Dune 13-Apr-20 06:58 PM

@noby

Deleted User 13-Apr-20 06:58 PM

noby calls everything a bot

Patiga 13-Apr-20 06:58 PM

in his fng server you can find a feed of the kicks

Trafalgar Law 13-Apr-20 06:59 PM

@noby

Deleted User 13-Apr-20 06:59 PM

even dyncam players

Learath2 13-Apr-20 06:59 PM

or if we ever get to analyze the terabyte of teehistorian data i'd love to see how many people replaybot on ddnet

@heinrich5991 ML might be useful in analyzing the actual input data, a model might be able to spot the bottiness of the movement

heinrich5991 13-Apr-20 07:01 PM

ML is good at spotting known categories

Learath2 13-Apr-20 07:01 PM

(or how human an input is)

heinrich5991 13-Apr-20 07:01 PM

so you might train it on an actual bot, I guess

and ML is also a lot about what false positive rate is acceptable

and for antibots this is very close to 0

Learath2 13-Apr-20 07:01 PM

we could train it on actual human data instead

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 07:03 PM

it's possible to use both, human input and bit input.

Dune 13-Apr-20 07:04 PM

When one mentions ML I always see bright stars in people's eyes about what it might do, and it tends ends up doing a very limited subset of that

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 07:07 PM

Usually cheat creators operate as individuals, currently noby also operates as an individual. if we have another 0.6 bot endgame, i'd guess it's too much work for one individual to "fight" against multiple small teams or individuals, thus the crowdsourcing idea. whole community providing data (should be confirmed by people in any case) in a fight against individuals creating cheats. if there would be an interchangable default way for such data to be exchanged, this would imo help.

Learath2 13-Apr-20 07:08 PM

@heinrich5991 the false positive rate is only close to 0 if you'll actually take action with the antibot, you could just use it as an aid

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 07:08 PM

current workflow is, I'd guess noby looking manually through data, tweaking parameters himself, for every bot that has been found.

calculating some thresholds (edited)

Learath2 13-Apr-20 07:09 PM

tbh, noby could release his source and no bot maker would be dedicated enough to read it, let alone work around it

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 07:09 PM

there are always individuals.

depends on whether those individuals actually share their cheats.

Learath2 13-Apr-20 07:10 PM

siO would probably be dedicated enough to workaround it if noby pissed him off enough (edited)

Skayland 13-Apr-20 07:13 PM

if you wanna know how many bots noby finds daily just join the discord and check the #bots channel

i think there is also a list somewhere with "known bots" and other stats

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 07:16 PM

There is a bunch of 0.6 bots openly available, that people use. it's not like everyone still playing on 0.6 creates their own bot to bypass that detection. (edited)

some people might be not that bright to attempt to use the same bot again, even tho they were banned previously.

laying out the groundwork to prevent a 0.6 endgame, might help on the long run with 0.7 (edited)

noby 13-Apr-20 10:24 PM

[11:59 AM] Kaisi: even dyncam players wtf i play with dyncam what

and yes there is no such thing as a perfect antibot

everything can be bypassed in theory

its just a fun project and at the very least reduces how powerful the bots can be

and the arms race is always gonna be a thing even if there is no automated system

replace "server side antibot" with "admin watching the server" and the same idea could apply where people try to make better bots that the admin wont see

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:27 PM

hm

no perfect antibot in theory

but perfect bots are

xd

noby 13-Apr-20 10:28 PM

no i think

a "perfect" bot isnt the problem here

more like a bot thats just as good as the best human player

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:29 PM

noby = bot

ok

noby 13-Apr-20 10:29 PM

u

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:29 PM

xd

hm

inputs can be "like bot input"

and no

noby 13-Apr-20 10:31 PM

i dont think theres any one input alone that could be called botlike

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:31 PM

here

noby 13-Apr-20 10:31 PM

u have to look at sequences of their inputs or shots or whatever else and look for patterns

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:32 PM

ye

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:32 PM

here

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:32 PM

heyho jxsl13 (edited)

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:32 PM

I am a living false positive.

noby 13-Apr-20 10:32 PM

lmao

yes

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:32 PM

woah

noby 13-Apr-20 10:32 PM

cus the way u play

it doesnt like it

if i were to rewrite the whole system today id probably pick a smarter approach

where the detects have to go thru a human

to evaluate if its false or not

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:33 PM

what do you think about crowd sourcing data?

noby 13-Apr-20 10:34 PM

in wat way

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:34 PM

teehistorian (edited)

user inputs.

noby 13-Apr-20 10:34 PM

could be useful yea

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:35 PM

client input logs? (edited)

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:35 PM

preferrably with meta data indicating whether someone was detected as a bit by an admin.

yes, client input log format of heinrich

super compressible, super light weight (edited)

noby 13-Apr-20 10:35 PM

im sure there are better ways to make antibot than what i have on my servers

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:35 PM

ofc

noby 13-Apr-20 10:35 PM

something using all the teehist data is probably one of them

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:35 PM

xd

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:36 PM

Hooe there will be teehistorian in vanilla one day :'(

hope

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:37 PM

lmfao (edited)

noby 13-Apr-20 10:38 PM

that would be cool

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:39 PM

are there ways to open fucking teesouces folder in vs2015

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:39 PM

psshhh, ping heinrich an annoy him to make this a reality.

psshh end

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:39 PM

:d

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:39 PM

there is

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:39 PM

"install vs2019"

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:40 PM

you use cmake to generate a crap ass visual studio project from the source code

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:40 PM

holy shit

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:40 PM

and ooen the project

open

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:40 PM

that way only?

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:40 PM

I guess, that's the best way

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:40 PM

uhm

okey (edited)

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 10:41 PM

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/395169/ddg#395216

Using CMake to generate Visual Studio C++ project files

I am working on an open source C++ project, for code that compiles on Linux and Windows. I use CMake to build the code on Linux. For ease of development setup and political reasons, I must stick to

@a gerdoe (aka Satan Mama Cat)

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:42 PM

xd

thanks

heinrich5991 13-Apr-20 10:43 PM

@a gerdoe what alternative did you have in mind?

a gerdoe 13-Apr-20 10:44 PM

for what?

are there ways to open teesouces folder in vs2015

here?

Learath2 13-Apr-20 11:15 PM

cmake is perfectly capable of creating vs projects, what else do you want? (edited)

Ryozuki 13-Apr-20 11:18 PM

use neovim with coc.nvim and coc-clangd

2

and vim-cmake

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 11:18 PM

use a gun.

Ryozuki 13-Apr-20 11:19 PM

beutiful

jxsl13 13-Apr-20 11:31 PM

r.i.p. :D

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 14-Apr-20 10:27 AM

hi

Deleted User 16-Apr-20 03:59 PM

helo

i'm just a peace of shit so don't mind me

heinrich5991 16-Apr-20 04:01 PM

oO

Deleted User 16-Apr-20 04:01 PM

https://discord.gg/pPg9Gfy

jxsl13 16-Apr-20 04:02 PM

is that a fake teeworlds discord? or what's the sense here

Deleted User 16-Apr-20 04:02 PM

i'm just using linux

jxsl13 16-Apr-20 04:03 PM

https://discord.gg/teeworlds (edited)

Dune 16-Apr-20 04:03 PM

it's an invite to the voice channel

jxsl13 16-Apr-20 04:03 PM

hmm. now I understand

nobody hangs around in any voice channel here. maybe you can try the ddrace discord server, there are usually people in the voice channel.

heinrich5991 16-Apr-20 04:05 PM

lots of people use linux here

jxsl13 16-Apr-20 04:06 PM

https://discord.gg/EA3H84h

Trafalgar Law 16-Apr-20 04:06 PM

!!

jxsl13 16-Apr-20 04:06 PM

too slow

Trafalgar Law 16-Apr-20 04:06 PM

XD

But you leaved

2

jxsl13 16-Apr-20 04:07 PM

sad life

Deleted User 17-Apr-20 01:46 PM

hello

Skayland 17-Apr-20 07:36 PM

no

heinrich5991 17-Apr-20 07:49 PM

hi

Deleted User 17-Apr-20 10:07 PM

who is law

Trafalgar Law 17-Apr-20 10:07 PM

Hi

Deleted User 17-Apr-20 10:08 PM

U?

Trafalgar Law 17-Apr-20 10:08 PM

Ofc

Deleted User 17-Apr-20 10:08 PM

oh

Trafalgar Law 17-Apr-20 10:08 PM

If you mean my server, yea

Deleted User 17-Apr-20 10:08 PM

ok then

Skayland 17-Apr-20 10:08 PM

wtf?

Trafalgar Law 17-Apr-20 10:08 PM

Why? :D

Deleted User 17-Apr-20 10:09 PM

idk i like asking questions

Trafalgar Law 17-Apr-20 10:09 PM

xD

AbdoZX17 18-Apr-20 01:13 AM

can anyone help me pls

?

Attachment: ice_video_20200418-010033-1.webm (5.03 MB)

my screen make some lights and I don't know why and this only in teeworlds

and I don't have lags

Trafalgar Law 18-Apr-20 01:20 AM

Toaster computer

I feel it

AbdoZX17 18-Apr-20 01:22 AM

wtf? @Trafalgar Law

Dune 18-Apr-20 01:57 AM

driver issues with opengl perhaps?

@AbdoZX17 you're on mac?

jxsl13 18-Apr-20 02:40 AM

this game runs on less than a toaster (edited)

it runs on potatoes

Dune 18-Apr-20 02:51 AM

i've had it be pretty laggy on some linuxes, probably because of drivers

Souly 18-Apr-20 04:39 AM

lag is video fault, he is talking about the background

a gerdoe 18-Apr-20 08:05 AM

check ur binds (edited)

i think u just turned off the background

mind 18-Apr-20 11:40 AM

hey guys, did you know that the two bases of ctf2 aren't perfectly mirrored?

Dune 18-Apr-20 11:46 AM

@Souly as strange as that sound, it can very well be a driver thing

@mind are they not?

mind 18-Apr-20 11:47 AM

@Dune no

Dune 18-Apr-20 11:58 AM

@Sonix

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:05 PM

yeah, it's always been like that

Dune 18-Apr-20 12:06 PM

on purpose?

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:06 PM

you might want to ask matricks about that

Dune 18-Apr-20 12:07 PM

surely that's a bug? lol

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:07 PM

i wanted to keep its original aspect

Dune 18-Apr-20 12:08 PM

I can hardly see matricks in his swedish mansion, saying "and this block shall be one pixel further on the blue size"

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:08 PM

its been played like that for 10 years nobody ever ranted about it or even noticed it

Dune 18-Apr-20 12:09 PM

now I'm ranting

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:09 PM

sur1 is uneven too

on purpose that is

Dune 18-Apr-20 12:11 PM

so we're not fixing bugs when maps go past 10 years? sounds like legacy code :D

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:11 PM

its not that

why change it now? do we put it closer to the hearts (red) or closer to the flag (blue)

I'm not against it just saying

mind 18-Apr-20 12:14 PM

i think red base might enable easier grenade fastcap, while blue base enables easier no weapons fastcap

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:15 PM

^^

Zatline 18-Apr-20 12:17 PM

I think someone just messed up when first creating the map ^^

Dune 18-Apr-20 12:17 PM

both sound preferrable to a map where one side is advantaged

Zatline 18-Apr-20 12:17 PM

little error shit happens

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:18 PM

its not a game changing bug

else people (high level) would've noticed it long time ago

Zatline 18-Apr-20 12:19 PM

speaking of a-symetry why do we not have a single a-symetric ctf map? it's an intresting concept imo and could add some diversity

Dune 18-Apr-20 12:20 PM

Still, a fix in either side sounds preferrable to the current situation to me @Sonix

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:23 PM

I can fix it for symmetry perfection's sake

@Zatline sometimes some teams (in assymetric maps) have more advantages than the other one

mind 18-Apr-20 12:25 PM

i think it souldn't be changed, because it might mess around with fastcap strats (maybe even times)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOgR3TPu1VIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOgR3TPu1VI

avalonkiller

Teeworlds Teerace FastCap ctf2-no-weapons

Author: matricks Player: fudgyking (2nd place) Time: 8.874 Record: 8.825 by dIeD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xPcX8B2nAQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xPcX8B2nAQ

avalonkiller

Teeworlds Teerace FastCap ctf2

Author: matricks Player: shreko Time: 7.334 Record: 7.231 by dIeD

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:25 PM

commmon example is 1 team top and the other one bottom

highground advantage

Zatline 18-Apr-20 12:27 PM

yeah @Sonix I figured but I mean I know it could work if map is done right it has been done in other games as well so a try at it could be worth .. not saying that I personally would like it but it wwould be intresting to see what we could come up with :p

yea teams sould play from left and right always :p

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:29 PM

Yeah i'm not against it, im open to new ideas and designs

but i'll require a lot of testing to come up with something decent

Zatline 18-Apr-20 12:30 PM

I mean if I remember back tw had some extremly popular ctf maps that were not symetric back in the days and they worked quite well if my memory is right example "pirates"

(edited)

true it will definitely take good time that's a fact

mind 18-Apr-20 12:40 PM

Btw what do you think of a tile that won't reflect lasers and if hit by a grenade the aoe damage is 0. Design could be some sort of sticky overlay or moss for the jungle maps.

Sonix 18-Apr-20 12:44 PM

sort of swampy sticky tiles?

mind 18-Apr-20 12:47 PM

y or like honey or bubble gum, but idk XD

but i didn't mean slowing down player movement with sticky

jxsl13 18-Apr-20 12:54 PM

we were promised slopes for 0.7

:(

black tiles absorbing light, getting warm for a specific period of time, killing players if touched.

that light being lasers

jxsl13 18-Apr-20 01:06 PM

environmental fighting could be interesting

Zatline 18-Apr-20 01:37 PM

what I would love to see is some elements like water and fire some physics mechanics

redix 18-Apr-20 01:39 PM

What about vector based maps, dynamic/interactive objects and map scripting?

Just to add some more things that basically require you to rewrite the game

4

Zatline 18-Apr-20 01:40 PM

that would be next level I'd like that

a gerdoe 18-Apr-20 04:24 PM

1 tile = 1 object of struct/class (edited)

with virtual method

would be nice and no

Learath2 18-Apr-20 04:26 PM

the virtual calls might start to add up at that point

a gerdoe 18-Apr-20 04:30 PM

af

how is freeze tile working?

heinrich5991 18-Apr-20 04:30 PM

ddnet?

a gerdoe 18-Apr-20 04:30 PM

yep

Learath2 18-Apr-20 04:30 PM

The character entity knows it's position, it checks what kinda tile it's in and does it's thing

a gerdoe 18-Apr-20 04:31 PM

same with virtual funcs

isnt it?

heinrich5991 18-Apr-20 04:31 PM

virtual function calls are more expensive

a gerdoe 18-Apr-20 04:31 PM

thats it (edited)

Learath2 18-Apr-20 04:31 PM

well you'd call the virtual function for every single tile you cross

even if the tile has no specific function or applies to this entity

it would definitely look cuter though

heinrich5991 18-Apr-20 04:33 PM

also

it'd be much more memory-expensive

currently we have 4 bytes per tile (which is already too much, we could have 2)

Learath2 18-Apr-20 04:33 PM

for(CTile &Tile : CrossedTiles) { Tile.Handle(this); }

heinrich5991 18-Apr-20 04:34 PM

class CTile { char a, b, c, d; void Handle(CCharacter *pChar); }

Learath2 18-Apr-20 04:35 PM

make it CEntity * and you can have tiles that work for projectiles too

well any entity

but then I guess you either need a dynamic cast or a entity type enum

a gerdoe 18-Apr-20 04:40 PM

systematic tiles are better in code writing but what do it cost...

sorry for bad english

Assa 18-Apr-20 06:52 PM

it doesn't cost so much and you can technically improve teeworlds with quad-trees or kd-trees

a gerdoe 18-Apr-20 07:44 PM

kd?

heinrich5991 18-Apr-20 07:44 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-d_tree

K-d tree

In computer science, a k-d tree (short for k-dimensional tree) is a space-partitioning data structure for organizing points in a k-dimensional space. k-d trees are a useful data structure for several applications, such as searches involving a multidimensional search key (e.g. ...

a gerdoe 18-Apr-20 07:45 PM

holy mother

Learath2 18-Apr-20 09:56 PM

What would we even do with a quadtree, kd tree, or maybe even an octree?

Assa 19-Apr-20 12:57 AM

currently we are iterating over every character for character projectile interaction

or for character character interaction aka hitboxes

you could heavily optimize them by using quadtrees, because you just need to check the entities nearby

or pickup character iteration

basically every entity is iterating over all characters checking for collision all the time

when the opposite would make more sense: check nearby a character if it hits something

Learath2 19-Apr-20 09:52 AM

that'd make sense

Learath2 19-Apr-20 10:21 AM

well I guess teeworlds performs decent enough that we don't need to optimize this

If we did, we could first split the map into chunks, that'd be simpler to implement then a quadtree

Ryozuki 19-Apr-20 12:00 PM

@heinrich5991 remember the guy with nazi symbols? apparently he is rly bored

1

Assa 19-Apr-20 12:29 PM

@Learath2 you could split the map into chunks with a quadtree basically doing the same

Learath2 19-Apr-20 01:44 PM

@Assa an actual quadtree is more work to implement then splitting the entire map into 32x32 chunks

a quadtree is denser at some regions

Assa 19-Apr-20 01:45 PM

you will never need to go under 2x2 and parts of the map can be ignored like walls

jxsl13 19-Apr-20 01:48 PM

:0 50x50 map

Learath2 19-Apr-20 02:58 PM

You don't get the point, it's not that a quadtree wouldn't be better, it's that it'd be more difficult to implement so no need to resort to it unless we need to

Dune 19-Apr-20 03:08 PM

There are no zero-cost abstractions

Learath2 19-Apr-20 03:14 PM

@Dune hm, wouldn't divvying the map up into chunks (either a quadtree or just fixed size chunks) be zero cost?

Worst case scenario with a horribly unbalanced tree it'd perform the same as now

Assa 19-Apr-20 03:56 PM

I know, that there is overhead, you know characters and projectiles move through the tree/chunks? It's just a possible way, that might lead to improvements in the overall performance - I don't say anyone should implement this

Dune 19-Apr-20 03:57 PM

@Learath2 the cost is not always in performance

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 03:57 PM

we had examples of zero-runtime-cost abstractions

e.g. std::unique_ptr, std::vector

Assa 19-Apr-20 03:58 PM

can you explain why the unique_ptr is zero cost?

Learath2 19-Apr-20 03:59 PM

well what is the cost?

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 03:59 PM

it's a zero-cost abstraction over managing the pointer yourself with new/delete or malloc/free

the compiler inserts the calls for you, you don't have to care about it

Assa 19-Apr-20 03:59 PM

every time you use the pointer you need to derefence two pointers, that's the cost

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:00 PM

that's not true

Assa 19-Apr-20 04:00 PM

oh, if the compiler solves it for you then you are right

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:00 PM

no you don't, the compiler can optimize that out

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:00 PM

a unique_ptr has the same amount of dereferences as a normal pointer

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:00 PM

There is however a memory cost to unique_ptrs with custom deleters

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:00 PM

@Learath2 depends on how you use it

Assa 19-Apr-20 04:01 PM

I learned to increase performance by sacrificing memory - ofc a tree would take some mem

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:01 PM

huh, can you get a custom deleter without memory cost?

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:01 PM

yes, template arguments IIRC

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:03 PM

ah, no it's EBO

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:04 PM

EBO?

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:04 PM

You can pass a "function like object" as the deleter, so you just pass a struct with only overloaded ()

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:04 PM

yes

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:05 PM

an instance of it is constructed but because it's empty it won't use any storage at all

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:05 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIkrotSwcc&t=1058 uses the example of unique_ptr

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:06 PM

EBO = empty base optimisation btw

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:06 PM

can you summarize the arguments? I don't like videos

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:06 PM

but in general, I argue that abstractions have a cost and must be sparingly used

Assa 19-Apr-20 04:08 PM

I think you overgeneralize - there are abstractions (and dataformats), that improve the overall performance

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:08 PM

https://godbolt.org/z/EMTeoQ https://godbolt.org/z/1MCTIa

Compiler Explorer - C++ (x86-64 clang (trunk))

void bar(int* ptr); // Takes ownership void baz(int* ptr); void foo(int* ptr) { if (*ptr > 42) { bar(ptr); *ptr = 42; } baz(ptr); }

Compiler Explorer - C++ (x86-64 clang (trunk))

void bar(int* ptr); // Takes ownership. void baz(std::unique_ptr ptr); void foo(std::unique_ptr ptr) { if (*ptr > 42) { bar(ptr.get()); *ptr = 42; } baz(std::move(ptr)); }

@Assa you cannot improve performance with abstractions, anything you do on an abstract level, you can do on a lower level

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:09 PM

that is incorrect

or at least misleading

there are things that you cannot reasonably do in C

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:09 PM

(obviously it's more tedious

)

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:09 PM

yes

but if that means that it won't be done

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:09 PM

but you can't say that abstracting improves performance

of course, that's why we use abstractions

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:09 PM

there are abstractions that improve performance in reality

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:10 PM

but we should keep in mind that they all come with a cost - sometimes less than the benefits, of course

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:10 PM

the same goes for coding low-level

that also comes with a cost

that might be performacne (because you don't use a hashtable with a proper hashing function, because you can't be assed to write it)

like Teeworlds, for example

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:10 PM

I'm only arguing against abstracting for the sake of abstracting

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:11 PM

Teeworlds does have the problem of too little abstraction in a few places

e.g. rolling their own, very bad, trivially DoSable hash function

that wouldn't have happened in a higher-level language

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:11 PM

Teeworlds pushes the ideology quite towards the "litte abstractions" side, and suffers from it on some aspects, yes

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:12 PM

interesting talk, didn't think about the implications of exceptions and the temporaries constructed

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:12 PM

(note that the example that @Dune posted is a bit nonrealistic, I think)

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:12 PM

It's a difficult slider, maybe Teeworlds does it too little, maybe other applications do it too much

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:12 PM

you don't usually pass unique_ptr around

@Dune now that's just relativizing everything

that's an empty hprase you can say about everything

Assa 19-Apr-20 04:13 PM

remember to program in reliability - you might lose some performance, but every second you don't have to spend at some code anymore is time you can spend on other maybe more usefull parts - so if you look at the overall efficiency of the development progress instead of the performance of teeworlds itself

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:13 PM

@heinrich5991 well the guy says it's a pretty common/idiomatic pattern to pass ownership of memory

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:13 PM

@heinrich5991 true

I don't really want to argue the list of benefits it has with Teeworlds and the list of inconvenients

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:14 PM

https://godbolt.org/z/apjjM_ @Learath2 I don't see the performance penalty

Compiler Explorer - C++ (x86-64 clang (trunk))

void bar(int* ptr); // Takes ownership. void baz(std::unique_ptr&& ptr); void foo(std::unique_ptr&& ptr) { if (*ptr > 42) { bar(ptr.get()); *ptr = 42; } baz(std::move(ptr)); }

I see one extra instruction, haven't investigated it furtherly

(dunno why it wouldn't use && for transferring ownership)

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:15 PM

it does use rvalue references though, no?

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:16 PM

the original one? no

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:16 PM

I'm not done with the talk yet btw, he is talking about those two instructions on the white lines

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:16 PM

ah

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:17 PM

the two white instructions there are memory loads, which is why he says it's worse then the move between registers in the raw pointer one (that one is only to match calling convention)

jxsl13 19-Apr-20 04:18 PM

hm, c++11 masterrace

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:18 PM

rust might be even better here, because it has proper move semantics (might fare better here than && references)

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:20 PM

there was this thread about zero-cost abstraction in rust https://users.rust-lang.org/t/not-quite-zero-cost-abstraction/11514

Not quite zero-cost abstraction

(co-authored by @bugaevc and @YaLTeR) Zero-cost abstraction is one of the major selling points of Rust, along with memory safety and others. In fact, it is listed first in the Rust features list on the rust-lang.org frontpage. Zero-cost abstraction means abstraction without ...

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:20 PM

from a quick glance, this is something different than the move semantics of unique_ptrs

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:21 PM

it seems like vitalyd argues that abstractions are only zero cost if the compiler is smart enough

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:21 PM

I don't see how the abstraction can never be zero-cost though, as long as you have a way to communicate your intent perfectly to the compiler it should be possible to get unique ptr to zero cost

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:21 PM

I don't know rust well enough though

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:21 PM

see how it got better with the c++11 example as you conveyed your intent better and better to the compiler?

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:22 PM

As long as you do something that is not too smart for the compiler, I guess

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:25 PM

@WingedTeam does that have any relation to teeworlds?

then please don't post it here without explanation

a gerdoe 19-Apr-20 04:29 PM

xd

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:36 PM

@heinrich5991 I think ownership is indeed what's messing up the zero-costness of this abstraction

If you pass by value, you need to check whether the called function did indeed take ownership, you pass by rvalue and there is an indirection

Teeworlds would indeed benefit from a couple more abstractions though, like a proper hashmap

jxsl13 19-Apr-20 04:39 PM

ease of development is worth some abstraction:0

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:40 PM

obviously, otherwise we'd be writing assembly

a gerdoe 19-Apr-20 04:40 PM

хд

jxsl13 19-Apr-20 04:40 PM

some more than now!

assembly masterrace

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:46 PM

btw @Dune I think his argument is that you can't have "total" zero-cost abstractions, as in it'd either have a cost while building, at runtime or a human cost (e.g. readability or complexity)

jxsl13 19-Apr-20 04:48 PM

Optimize when there is a need to optimize. Good ol' Donald

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:48 PM

@Learath2 I think you're right, though in particular unique_ptr seems to have some more issues because of shortcomings(?) of the ABI

I think the point is that you shouldn't take anything, and not weight the benefits, because it would be zero cost

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:50 PM

I'm not very fond of ownership mechanics to begin with, a little backwards that way. I prefer keeping track of that stuff myself

Dune 19-Apr-20 04:51 PM

going back to @Assa's kd-trees, I think you shouldn't introduce heavy abstractions like that without considering the costs and the benefits

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:51 PM

I would never go for kd-trees for teeworlds, too expensive to balance (edited)

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:52 PM

wdym?

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:52 PM

however a quadtree can indeed work decently well, or just divvying the map into chunks

heinrich5991 19-Apr-20 04:52 PM

oh

I thought quadtree was a specialization of a k-d tree

Assa 19-Apr-20 04:54 PM

no, a quadtree just splits every dimension in half (in 2d = 2 splits = 4 chunks)

so a 32*32 chunk has 4 16x16 chunks, each of those has 4 8x8 chunks and so on

I said above, that I don't think you should implement this, I don't know if you gain something

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:57 PM

Well the discussion is more theoretical at this point then practical, I don't think anyone is considering doing quadtrees for teeworlds

Assa 19-Apr-20 04:57 PM

(Ignore me when i bullshit)

Learath2 19-Apr-20 04:58 PM

It could indeed be helpful to people like @fokkonaut who were trying to make 128 tee servers

Assa 19-Apr-20 04:58 PM

with enough players you WILL gain something! (edited)

It's like comparing quicksort and selection sort - selection sort is faster on very small arrays

fokkonaut 19-Apr-20 05:04 PM

@Learath2 what?

Learath2 19-Apr-20 05:08 PM

We were discussing quadtrees, it could help with coding servers that handle more then 128 players

a gerdoe 19-Apr-20 05:17 PM

wow, linux have normal package manager

jxsl13 19-Apr-20 05:23 PM

manjaro >:O

a gerdoe 19-Apr-20 05:26 PM

yep

Skayland 19-Apr-20 05:53 PM

heh yea most linux dists have package manager :P

a gerdoe 19-Apr-20 05:53 PM

my first linux dist

Skayland 19-Apr-20 05:53 PM

some even accept payments for not-free apps

a gerdoe 19-Apr-20 05:53 PM

wow

windows sucks

xd

Skayland 19-Apr-20 05:53 PM

yea (edited)

its hard for me to think of some windows feature that you cant get on linux

a gerdoe 19-Apr-20 05:59 PM

oh no...

Skayland 19-Apr-20 08:06 PM

wine it

1

Souly 19-Apr-20 11:57 PM

no more server crashing now?

Dune 19-Apr-20 11:58 PM

if you update or apply the commit as a patch, yes

louis 19-Apr-20 11:58 PM

when will yall fix the tees

feet are still off

its literally a 1 line fix just move the right foot 5 pixels left

Dune 20-Apr-20 12:00 AM

was there a design change? @Zatline @Sonix

Souly 20-Apr-20 12:00 AM

Assa 20-Apr-20 12:04 AM

@a gerdoe i call people insane who WANT to work with vs (exception for vs-code, heard its okay) - I had to work with it and i hate it, i hate it so much, i want it to burn in hell forever, in painfull purgatory

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:05 AM

@Assa I can't understand it for the life of me either, but there are many people who enjoy it so I'm starting to think I'm the insane one

Assa 20-Apr-20 12:06 AM

no, you are not. vs is the result of wanting a one-for-everything application (edited)

a gerdoe 20-Apr-20 12:06 AM

for teeworlds project it isnt good or bad, but as ide where you will make really big projects - yeah this is an peace of shit

qt creator much better

and

Assa 20-Apr-20 12:07 AM

teeworlds is so simple, i can code it with the command line in linux

a gerdoe 20-Apr-20 12:07 AM

for teeworlds projects it isnt good or bad

vs code on windows always

always swear

Dune 20-Apr-20 12:08 AM

@Assa doesn't mean you should

a gerdoe 20-Apr-20 12:08 AM

on linux - its much better because u can just download packages that you need and use (edited)

Assa 20-Apr-20 12:08 AM

I prefer codeblocks, i don't need a run button or fancy project stuff, just autocompletion

@Dune yeah you are right

a gerdoe 20-Apr-20 12:10 AM

vs on windows == vs code on linux for me

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:10 AM

@Assa the debugger is quite good

Dune 20-Apr-20 12:10 AM

Also it reduces the human cost of learning/customizing two IDE :)

Assa 20-Apr-20 12:10 AM

for a windows debugger, yeah

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:10 AM

no, for a debugger

IMO

Assa 20-Apr-20 12:10 AM

i still remember when i used valgrind on the MAIN product from that company i worked for

the first week i was just fixing memory bugs

a gerdoe 20-Apr-20 12:11 AM

simple debugger?

Assa 20-Apr-20 12:11 AM

I have seen their code and my instinct told me: valgrind this bitch immediatly

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:11 AM

eeeeh, the debugger has been quite inadequate in my experience, especially after gdb and lldb, it's so hard to do what I want to do on it

(it could be that I'm just not used to it, but I really had trouble debugging mostly at lower levels)

like stepping in assembly, observing memory, conditions on breakpoints

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:14 AM

I'm not well versed in gdb actually

I can barely set breakpoints and step

conditions on breakpoints are beyond my level currently. if you have nice resources to read, please share

Assa 20-Apr-20 12:16 AM

my worst windows experience came with microsoft azure

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:17 AM

well it's literally condition <br#> <condition>

ngl gdb is not too easy to learn

maybe I could write something, I always wanted to get better at writing

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:19 AM

how do you delete a breakpoint?

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:19 AM

I gave up on VS while learning Unreal, a project of that size just makes VS cry

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:19 AM

I always struggle with gdb, can't remmeber all the things and have to resort to google again

I use it too rarely, I guess

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:19 AM

I do clear when I hit the breakpoint

but you can specify which breakpoint to clear the exact same way you specified the point to break on

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:20 AM

ah

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:20 AM

I never had used this but apparently you can delete them by breakpoint# too with delete

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:21 AM

ah yea

that's the command I can't remember all the time

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:26 AM

lldb is meh, but it's also very useful

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:27 AM

never used it before, I think

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:27 AM

Very close to the featureset of gdb

A bit saner of an interface :P

I should try a couple of gdb interfaces some day, cutter was nice to use for radare2

Sonix 20-Apr-20 12:31 AM

@Dune Not since 0.7 iirc

Dune 20-Apr-20 12:31 AM

yeah, he's probably talking about a 0.7 change

Sonix 20-Apr-20 12:32 AM

They were moved a bit to make the tee look a bit leaning

If my memory is correct

@heinrich5991 do you have access to the website files?

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:33 AM

yes

Sonix 20-Apr-20 12:34 AM

Oh nice, i thought only minus did

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:34 AM

I think he gave me access because he didn't want to deal with this all the time ^^

Sonix 20-Apr-20 12:35 AM

Then i might send you a .css file tomorrow with some style improvements

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:35 AM

uni starts tomorrow, might not have a 5min response time

Sonix 20-Apr-20 12:36 AM

Can We do it now then?

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:36 AM

sure

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:37 AM

Like actually starts? Is germany rolling back the lockdown?

Or do you get online lessons like all of us?

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:37 AM

virtual

germany does want to roll back the lockdown a bit though

Learath2 20-Apr-20 12:37 AM

Ours started on schedule

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 12:37 AM

they want to start schools again, soon

our semester started a week late

Assa 20-Apr-20 12:38 AM

yeah, i am not proud of my country belonging this

Sonix 20-Apr-20 12:50 AM

@Dune notice anything different? https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=client_settings (might still be cached lol)

Dune 20-Apr-20 12:50 AM

oh yeah, looks much better

Sonix 20-Apr-20 12:50 AM

looks like a doc now (edited)

bubliman 20-Apr-20 01:28 AM

@Dune just completed the English -> Czech translation of teeworlds, hope it helps

Fudgy 20-Apr-20 01:34 AM

When I update my code to the master now it still compiles but I cant start teeworlds anymore... last time I pulled was in january

Dune 20-Apr-20 01:42 AM

@Fudgy what happens when you start it? what's your OS

Fudgy 20-Apr-20 01:42 AM

wait I think it was the dll were not copied to the directory so it used the ones I had before

I copied them manually and seems like its working

it was crashing in Input->Init() when I debugged which is related to freetype

I'll say if another problem occurs..

also I dont remember how to force rebuild with bam

Dune 20-Apr-20 01:44 AM

bam -c to clear

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 01:57 AM

bam -c config for regenerating the config IIRC

Fudgy 20-Apr-20 04:09 AM

ok I finally merged, alot was refactored it seems

BasedUser 20-Apr-20 07:14 AM

is this an @everyone that is actually worth?!

🎀mao🎀 20-Apr-20 08:34 AM

uh guys i need some help

so the update

it kinda removed my dd-client (edited)

and how can i get my skins and data + settings back?

nevermind, i got it

a gerdoe 20-Apr-20 10:23 AM

hm

Sonix 20-Apr-20 12:33 PM

What about it?

Dune 20-Apr-20 12:38 PM

@BasedUser it is important that we notify server hosters. We only at everyone on releases

Sonix 20-Apr-20 01:00 PM

@Dune could you add a line about map changes in the changelog? dm7 and ctf5 got some minor bugfixes

Dune 20-Apr-20 01:02 PM

Ok

Sonix 20-Apr-20 01:03 PM

Thank you

a gerdoe 20-Apr-20 02:46 PM

@ChillerDragon xd

Assa 20-Apr-20 04:38 PM

@Sonix using the steam client ctf5 did not change

disable whisper feature can you make other options redundant too? like disable sound feature?

just some semantics ^^ I always wanted a feature like this ❤️

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 04:47 PM

redundant?

Assa 20-Apr-20 04:48 PM

the word feature is redundant

I am pretty happy with this update, because you fixed the Browser issue with the overlapping buttons ❤️

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 04:52 PM

well, kinda bad format. but the part with: disable sound feature resets our "days without requesting a sound toggle/hud toggle" counter to 0.

Assa 20-Apr-20 04:52 PM

no it doesn't, because it's already implemented (in multiple ways)

or are ironic renaming requests valid?

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 04:53 PM

lol, can you toggle chat sounds :o?

Assa 20-Apr-20 04:53 PM

yes, press CTRL+S

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 04:54 PM

hm, sounds fishy

Assa 20-Apr-20 04:54 PM

try it

it works

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 04:54 PM

one day

but not today.

I think, the part about the counter being reset should be decided by a community vote, I dunno, that kinda "sounded" like a request to me, even tho irony. (edited)

Assa 20-Apr-20 04:57 PM

I just wanted to underline the redundancy by requesting a name change for other commands to be more redundant, too

pls never take me seriously

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 04:57 PM

"days without people dying inside"

Assa 20-Apr-20 04:58 PM

my counter never went up

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 04:58 PM

lol

Assa 20-Apr-20 04:58 PM

aren't we all (biologically) dying inside all the time?

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 05:00 PM

not until about the age of 25?

might be a different age, I don't remember

Assa 20-Apr-20 05:01 PM

I think you missunderstood something there

you swapped all of your cells in 5 years

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 05:01 PM

hm.

well, individual cells then.

I was more on the track when actual aging kicks in.

Assa 20-Apr-20 05:03 PM

yes, you have your biological peak with ~25, but you are fine until 40

I guess we should stay on topic before Dune get's activated and remembers us on rule #3 (edited)

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 05:05 PM

days without breaking the rules: 0 :D (edited)

Assa 20-Apr-20 05:05 PM

I like this counter

Sonix 20-Apr-20 05:10 PM

@Assa i doubt the changes are visible, some background cave edges changed

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 05:11 PM

Assa found the bug in the jungle tiles, I think he can smell single pixel wide transparent lines.

Assa 20-Apr-20 05:12 PM

i see them imediatly without thinking about it

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 05:12 PM

you mean smell.

Assa 20-Apr-20 05:12 PM

no, see

like literally

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 05:12 PM

you smell them :0

Assa 20-Apr-20 05:12 PM

with my eyes

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 05:12 PM

nose

ruke #3

Assa 20-Apr-20 05:13 PM

@Sonix i was the one who told you about the missing corner on ctf5

it's still missing

jxsl13 20-Apr-20 05:13 PM

rule #3

a gerdoe 20-Apr-20 05:15 PM

;ddd

Sonix 20-Apr-20 05:33 PM

are you sure you're viewing the right one

i see no missing corners anywhere

Assa 20-Apr-20 07:55 PM

i just joined the zCatch server displaying ctf5

since it's a standard map it should match

Sonix 20-Apr-20 08:09 PM

it runs the servers map not yours, is the server 0.7.5

is yours in data/maps/ okay?

Dune 20-Apr-20 08:50 PM

@Assa were not going to mess with servers running old versions of ctf5...

Skayland 20-Apr-20 11:48 PM

are 0.7 masters not working?

im helping a friend to setup his server but even after opening, closing, changing ports and configurations all we get is "masters not responding"

Dune 20-Apr-20 11:49 PM

@Skayland that is usually not a problem with the masters (besides they are fine afaik)

Skayland 20-Apr-20 11:50 PM

i thought only "ERROR configure your firewall" was not a problem of the masters

what does "masters not responding" mean then?

heinrich5991 20-Apr-20 11:58 PM

that might also be a problem of packets from the server not getting to the master or being dropped on the way back

AbdoZX17 21-Apr-20 03:10 AM

@Souly man unblock me

Skayland 21-Apr-20 03:15 AM

how do we solve that packet lose? x)

alexqem 21-Apr-20 11:42 AM

Fell in love with Alisa Does anybody know her contacts?

Trafalgar Law 21-Apr-20 11:42 AM

Assa 21-Apr-20 01:58 PM

what is the timeout rule for servers? i know the servers are sending heartbeats to the master

heinrich5991 21-Apr-20 02:03 PM

90s without heartbeat

Assa 21-Apr-20 02:03 PM

sounds reasonable

heinrich5991 21-Apr-20 02:03 PM

EXPIRE_TIME = 90 in src/mastersrv/mastersrv.cpp:22

Assa 21-Apr-20 02:04 PM

that's actually prettly long

a timeout of 90 seconds is not a packet loss, it's a cut wire, even tcp will full reset in this time

heinrich5991 21-Apr-20 02:16 PM

@Assa the server will only send every 15 seconds I think

so it's only 90/15-1 = 5 lost packets

Assa 21-Apr-20 04:27 PM

To the admin of the TeeSmash server: most of your mapvotes are broken

a gerdoe 21-Apr-20 04:37 PM

:d

no teesmash anymore

Ryozuki 21-Apr-20 04:58 PM

@Assa which teesmash server

Assa 21-Apr-20 05:02 PM

the one and only on 0.7?

gametype TSmash

Ryozuki 21-Apr-20 05:03 PM

what votes are broken

Assa 21-Apr-20 05:31 PM

mapvotes

(edited)

turns out only one vote is broken: vote map tf1

Skayland 21-Apr-20 06:30 PM

TSmash is very nice, i hosted it on 0.6 until i lost the server heh

Sonix 21-Apr-20 11:40 PM

Would you guys be interested in seeing / partecipating in a mapping tournament? If it was to happen

5

1

Dune 21-Apr-20 11:48 PM

@Sneak had one earlier this year. How did it go, by the way?

Sonix 21-Apr-20 11:51 PM

Yeah thats why i wanted to try it in vanilla

@Rilla won

, @Dune

The competition was tougher than what I’ve expected

Sneak 22-Apr-20 12:04 AM

If you need any help ( advertisements or server side support ) don’t hesitate to ping me @Sonix , would be a pleasure to see another mapping tourn :) (edited)

Sonix 22-Apr-20 03:18 PM

bonjour @Dune

@Sneak will do, thank you

Dune 22-Apr-20 03:28 PM

@Sonix Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like @Sneak 's map contest got most of its traction from the gCTF community, so if you were to make that, it would make more sense to take the temperature from the respective community

Sonix 22-Apr-20 03:40 PM

what do you mean

I want to make a vanilla one

Dune 22-Apr-20 03:42 PM

yeah, so you should ask the vanilla folks

+scene

I don't think out-of-scene casuals will do anything that can win by your standards?

Sonix 22-Apr-20 03:42 PM

what is it here

i want everyone to be able to partecipate whos interested

that has some mapping knownledge

Zatline 22-Apr-20 03:46 PM

I would take part in a vanilla map contest (edited)

Sonix 22-Apr-20 03:50 PM

as for the standards, as long as it follows the vanilla guidelines (must be written somewhere by chill1 or someoneelse) its fine

In case anyone wants a mustacho

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 03:58 PM

I'd love to see some standard maps, that are actually made for 64 players.

or 32

Dune 22-Apr-20 04:14 PM

The way Teeworlds works, you can't put a base much above another, so you always end up with something like ctf2 where there are two or max three pathways... and then it gets too small for that many players

At least that's my understanding of it

Sonix 22-Apr-20 04:19 PM

It doesnt have to be ctf

a gerdoe 22-Apr-20 04:20 PM

add teleport on vanilla!

xd

1

Sonix 22-Apr-20 04:36 PM

even big maps for LMS, this gametype has a lot of potential still needs a lot of work and features

it could even support more than 16 players in game

a gerdoe 22-Apr-20 04:43 PM

(but nobody play it anyway)

its boring mod, without any feature

just dm as battle royale

DivineDream 22-Apr-20 05:12 PM

hey guys!

Sonix 22-Apr-20 05:19 PM

Hi guys

Zatline 22-Apr-20 06:31 PM

I'm currenty writting down a list of various gametype ideas with details on how they work what would be needed ect. (edited)

Sonix 22-Apr-20 06:50 PM

there's plenty

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 06:53 PM

Hello ^^ (edited)

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:01 PM

slopes!

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:02 PM

?

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:02 PM

we need slopes.

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:02 PM

ive

ive seen slopes?

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:02 PM

hello @SollyBunny and welcome to the tw discord.

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:02 PM

(Might be my terrible memory)

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:03 PM

current maps got no real slopes.

maybe some in background, that you cannot walk on.

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:04 PM

Do you know anything about teeworld modications? (server side prefrably but also client side)

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:04 PM

I know a little bit about server side.

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:04 PM

As in making your own gamemodes

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:04 PM

yes

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:05 PM

How would I make a simple thing like click to suiside?

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:05 PM

well, youbwould need to look into the source code and find out where clicking (firing the weapon) is handled.

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:06 PM

So there's no official api or gathering of... all these things

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:06 PM

then you find out how suicide works, might be some function that is simply called

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:07 PM

So if I do that and build it, then do server setup etc etc from the folder

would it work

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:07 PM

the api is the code basically, there is no api for additional modding, you do modding by modifying the base code

and add stuff.

there is some api that you can hook into to create a new game mode, but your firing behavior is, I guess, not part of that api that you can hook into (edited)

you modify the code, build the server, start it, check if your desired bezavior works

behavior

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:09 PM

What language is used mainly for game logic?

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:09 PM

c++

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:09 PM

mmk

ty

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:10 PM

np

you can ask anytime, here are always people who know their way around the game's code.

starting point for modding is usually src/game/server/gamemode

SollyBunny 22-Apr-20 07:15 PM

Thank you ;D

a gerdoe 22-Apr-20 07:16 PM

look up chilliboobagon's tutorials

ofc chillidragon's

jxsl13 22-Apr-20 07:23 PM

ChillerDragun

a gerdoe 22-Apr-20 07:24 PM

chillerdrakon (edited)

no no

чилерdragon

Assa 22-Apr-20 10:53 PM

@Zatline i was thinking of a partee mod in the future with a lot of mini games - my list seems to go endless of mini games

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partimic69 22-Apr-20 11:50 PM

can someone help me? for a long time i can't see many servers in server lists(for example AEON servers), also i cant join them using ip address, i get message: "unable to connect to the server" what could be the problem?

Dune 22-Apr-20 11:53 PM

@partimic69 0.6, 0.7, both?

partimic69 22-Apr-20 11:53 PM

0.7

Assa 22-Apr-20 11:55 PM

deactivate firewall for testing is my first guess

Dune 22-Apr-20 11:56 PM

first time I hear about this kind of issue

Assa 22-Apr-20 11:58 PM

maybe some sideinfo like OS?

partimic69 22-Apr-20 11:59 PM

one guy helped me, it's a trouble with my isp or datacenter, not with a game

Assa 23-Apr-20 12:00 AM

that sounds crazy but okay

just don't let anybody use your computer via remote

redix 23-Apr-20 12:01 AM

he cannot connect to any ip from the host so it's probably a routing issue or something like that =\

Dune 23-Apr-20 12:03 AM

it's weird that an isp would fail like that though @redix

redix 23-Apr-20 12:04 AM

maybe not the isp but something on the way fails

Dune 23-Apr-20 12:05 AM

interesting

a gerdoe 23-Apr-20 12:12 AM

nk firewall xd

a gerdoe 23-Apr-20 12:24 AM

Are teeworlds translations going to the github automatically?

from that tool named transifex

Dune 23-Apr-20 12:25 AM

@a gerdoe not completely automatic, I have to press a few buttons

a gerdoe 23-Apr-20 12:26 AM

oh

okey

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Apr-20 12:37 AM

Dune, about this, for today I will review the full translation of the game based on the game. Okay?

And also, I thought I asked about the translation of the map editor, but still, will he be?

Dune 23-Apr-20 12:44 AM

The map editor strings are not available for translation as the editor is undergoing refactoring works

Terrorka (Tetra) 23-Apr-20 12:45 AM

Okay, thank you.)

NudelBr0t 23-Apr-20 11:13 AM

noby 23-Apr-20 12:09 PM

why is dyncam even broken in 0.7

the cl_dynamic_camera just changes my mouse distance

doesnt do anything to the followfactor/deadzone

noby 23-Apr-20 12:27 PM

+why does tw 0.7 always make my fans spin while giving lower fps

turning gfx_highdpi 0 increased the fps it shows by 2x but still its not good

Dune 23-Apr-20 12:58 PM

@noby there is more than one console command for dyncal

noby 23-Apr-20 12:59 PM

ok which ones do i type to make it work

noby 23-Apr-20 01:19 PM

@Dune i cant find commands for dynamic cam followfactor or dynamic cam deadzone to even make the toggle .cfg for it, and cl_dynamic_camera only toggles my mouse distance and not the other things

Dune 23-Apr-20 01:20 PM

@noby doesn't it work when you use the GUI?

noby 23-Apr-20 01:20 PM

idk

Dune 23-Apr-20 01:20 PM

please try

Besides, you don't need to write any followfactor or deadzone in the toggle command

noby 23-Apr-20 01:21 PM

the old way for making dyn toggle on clients that didnt support it

by making two cfgs

Dune 23-Apr-20 01:21 PM

Just bind key toggle cl_dynamic_camera 1 0 is enough

noby 23-Apr-20 01:21 PM

yes tried and it only changes my mouse distance

Dune 23-Apr-20 01:21 PM

This was made easier in 0.7

reset your camera settings by activating dyncam in t he GUI

redix 23-Apr-20 01:21 PM

@noby what fps values do you get in ddnet and 0.7? Do you use opengl 3 in ddnet?

Dune 23-Apr-20 01:22 PM

you can set dynamic camera-specific settings

when you change the followfactor etc it will not affect static, so it is easier to manage, and does not require two cfgs

noby 23-Apr-20 01:22 PM

i use ddnet 10.6 because it gives me better fps so theres no opengl setting, after changing highdpi to 0 i get about the same fps (~350 in both) but 0.7 feels choppier for some reason

redix 23-Apr-20 01:22 PM

Actually without limiting fps it is kinda normal that fans start spinning

Dune 23-Apr-20 01:22 PM

unless vsync right

noby 23-Apr-20 01:22 PM

it doesnt in 0.6

@Dune thx,fixed it

(why tho? is support for custom deadzone not a thing anymore)

i dont use vsync

Dune 23-Apr-20 01:23 PM

it is @noby

when you change the followfactor etc it will not affect static, so it is easier to manage, and does not require two cfgs

noby 23-Apr-20 01:23 PM

ohhh

got it

and i only ask about fps because .6 can run without fps cap and without making the fans spin

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:42 PM

https://youtu.be/EdwDvz47lNw?t=1137

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redix 23-Apr-20 01:45 PM

Usually the game uses 100% on one core. This will already make the fans spin on most laptops. Additionally it will use some gpu. On a dedicated gpu. it's probably below 40% usage because the rendering code is rather inefficient and uses deprecated opengl stuff. On iGPUs the usage can still be over 80%. This can also make your fans spin. Asked you are getting the same fps in both cases it seems like the main loop is not running at full speed, so it does not use 100% of the core =\ might be some rate limiting in ddnet

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:46 PM

according to louis, no fanspin = dead macbook

noby 23-Apr-20 01:48 PM

will the ratelimiting code be added to 0.7

redix 23-Apr-20 01:48 PM

@noby does you ddnet client have gfx_threaded?

noby 23-Apr-20 01:48 PM

no

redix 23-Apr-20 01:48 PM

Your*

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:48 PM

vsync

noby 23-Apr-20 01:49 PM

it has vsync but its turned off on both

redix 23-Apr-20 01:49 PM

What version of ddnet are you using?

noby 23-Apr-20 01:49 PM

10.6.2

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:49 PM

then turn it on and try again :0

noby 23-Apr-20 01:49 PM

no i dont want to use vsync then i get 60 fps only

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:49 PM

in a 50 ticks/s game

I guess that is enougj

h

noby 23-Apr-20 01:50 PM

lmao

it doesnt work like that

there is interpolation that renders things between ticks

and having fps higher than the refresh rate of ur screen makes it feel smoother than fps that is exactly the same refresh rate as ur screen

because it makes it more likely that the game will have a new frame drawn everytime it goes to refresh

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:51 PM

did you even try vsync? this is vanilla, not ddnet. gotta live with tradeoffs.

noby 23-Apr-20 01:52 PM

wtf

redix 23-Apr-20 01:52 PM

Vsync is horrible

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:52 PM

playing on a laptop

redix 23-Apr-20 01:52 PM

60 fps without is way better

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:52 PM

60fps without vsync?

so general fps limiting?

redix 23-Apr-20 01:53 PM

Even on a laptop I prefer 300+ fps with spinning fans

Yes.

Trafalgar Law 23-Apr-20 01:53 PM

Who play with vsync

the fuck

noby 23-Apr-20 01:53 PM

vsync is good for saving battery when u r not playing, not good for playing

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:54 PM

fanspin is for cooling the cpu

redix 23-Apr-20 01:54 PM

@noby pretty sure I asked this before... What value does your cl_refresh_rate have?

noby 23-Apr-20 01:54 PM

ru dumb xd

in 0.6 or 0.7?

redix 23-Apr-20 01:54 PM

0.6

noby 23-Apr-20 01:54 PM

cl_refresh_rate 480 on 0.6

and gfx_refresh_rate 480

redix 23-Apr-20 01:54 PM

0.7 does not have this

That's the reason why your fans don't spin in ddnet

Probably*

noby 23-Apr-20 01:55 PM

oo

redix 23-Apr-20 01:55 PM

It limits how often the main loop can run per second

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:55 PM

days without breaking the rules counter has been reset to 0.

ty noby...

redix 23-Apr-20 01:56 PM

Actually it's unlimited by default in latest ddnet

noby 23-Apr-20 01:56 PM

u are trolling, is that against the rules?

@redix makes sense ty i will try gfx_maxfps 480

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:57 PM

do you concider it toxic or aggressive?

redix 23-Apr-20 01:57 PM

This will only limit fps. Not the game loop itself

That's why ddnet has two variables

noby 23-Apr-20 01:58 PM

is there an equivalent in 0.7

i have gfx_refresh_rate 1

hmm

can i not ctrl-c from the console on 0.7 either

cl_cpu_throttle 1*

redix 23-Apr-20 01:59 PM

Not really. Only cl_cpu_throttle

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:59 PM

watch the video.

noby 23-Apr-20 01:59 PM

is it 0/1 or

why

redix 23-Apr-20 01:59 PM

You can use 2 I guess

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 01:59 PM

fanspin :D

noby 23-Apr-20 01:59 PM

what does the number do

redix 23-Apr-20 02:00 PM

It will just wait 2 ms after each loop iteration

I'd say the ddnet approach is more flexible

noby 23-Apr-20 02:01 PM

i think on 06 it figures out how many ms to wait every iteration no?

oh wow

changing it to 10 actualy helps

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:03 PM

maybe open an issue for like low energy/cpu/gpu/fps mode to run the game smoothly on like a "potato" that usually is not intended for playing games.

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:03 PM

Please i have a little problem : i can't run the 7.5 version teeworlds, same for 7.4 I have to play on the 7.3.1 version

someone know how to run the 7.5 on linux

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:04 PM

how do you run 0.7.3 on linux?

noby 23-Apr-20 02:04 PM

except i dont have these problems on 0.6 so this is stupid again

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:04 PM

0.6 != 0.6 ddnet

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:05 PM

@💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 where do you download it, whats your distro, what problem do you run into?

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:05 PM

(im playing in the official version)

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:05 PM

steam, website, linux repository/package manager? (edited)

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:05 PM

website https://teeworlds.com/?page=downloads

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:06 PM

what about the two other questions? @💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 oops (edited)

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:08 PM

i go in the folder and then i "try" to run "teeworlds" (the file)

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:08 PM

not fond of the linux installation process other than package manager. how do you run/install it (edited)

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:08 PM

and the file isn't runnable

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:08 PM

there are some known problem with nemo, the file manager

can you try starting it in command line?

right click, open in terminal, ./teeworlds

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:08 PM

that operating system/distro? (edited)

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:08 PM

but in 7.3.1 it's possible

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:09 PM

we'll get more info that way

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:09 PM

(just i'm french so it's normal if i don't understand all things)

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:10 PM

we can understand you alright

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:10 PM

are you on ubuntu :0?

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:10 PM

can you try what I proposed?

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:10 PM

yep

ubuntu

i have try on 7.5_64 and 7.5

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:11 PM

again, please try running in console

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:12 PM

do you have steam?

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:12 PM

That mean there is no file or folder of this name

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:12 PM

where is your folder located?

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:12 PM

is the steam version on 7.5 ?

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:13 PM

yes, the steam version should be the latest

but you can also helo finding the problem

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:13 PM

@💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 you have to cd in the right folder

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:13 PM

to be dixed

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:13 PM

steam won't change anything

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:13 PM

fixed

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:13 PM

@💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 go to teeworlds folder, right click, open command line

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:13 PM

i'm gonna try to make an account and download it in steam

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:14 PM

please try command line first

steam will get the same results

redix 23-Apr-20 02:14 PM

i think on 06 it figures out how many ms to wait every iteration no?

@noby yes

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:14 PM

listen to Dune :0

noby 23-Apr-20 02:14 PM

setting cpu throttle to 10 pretty much fixed it thx

but maybe would be cool if the ddnet approach to throttling was used

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:15 PM

okay i think i have find the problem

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:15 PM

great!

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:15 PM

code complexity vs 3 of 1000 people using it. could be documented somewhere.

what's the problem?

noby 23-Apr-20 02:16 PM

do u have to add an unhelpful response to everything i write

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:16 PM

i was using file manager and not install it

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:16 PM

it's just thoughts, ddnet has done a lot of cool client side and server side stuff.

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:16 PM

extract

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:17 PM

@💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 so it works now?

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:17 PM

yep but idk i prefeer the right version

i haven't try i don't admin power X)

don't have

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:17 PM

this cool stuff can be oart of like zillywoods of f-client or gamer, not necessary vanilla.

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:17 PM

cl_cpu_throttle should work fine

there is no reason to offload anything like that on custom clients

noby 23-Apr-20 02:18 PM

its literally just a different way of throttling, it is at max a couple lines of code longer

its not adding anything extra

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:18 PM

even tho a potato mode would be nice.

redix 23-Apr-20 02:18 PM

A static delay per frame is probably not the best solution

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:18 PM

@💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 huh, what?

noby 23-Apr-20 02:18 PM

just slightly changing how throttle works

i guess cpu throttle is potato mode? idk

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:19 PM

@Dune why what

noby 23-Apr-20 02:19 PM

it should be documented that its not a 0/1 thing

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:19 PM

the thought was more about Compaq ng the benefit, I don't know how much more complex that would become, if it's just a few lines, it seems worth it.

comparing

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:20 PM

@noby it's not?

redix 23-Apr-20 02:20 PM

Actually a value of 10 also means 10ms more input delay

noby 23-Apr-20 02:20 PM

i think its just storing the time of the last finished iteration and using that to calculate how long to wait before iterating again

instead of using a fixed delay @jxsl13

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:20 PM

the ddnet version also work it's seems

noby 23-Apr-20 02:20 PM

@Dune no it isnt

bcs cpu throttle 1 makes my fans spin and 10 fixes it

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:21 PM

das d you try values in between?

did

redix 23-Apr-20 02:21 PM

What about 5? 10 seems pretty high

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:21 PM

approximating the perfect number :0

redix 23-Apr-20 02:21 PM

Even 2 should be about the same like 480 in ddnet =\

noby 23-Apr-20 02:22 PM

no i didnt try

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:22 PM

looks like im gonna let developper debate about their game X)

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:22 PM

@💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 what's the issue now?

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:22 PM

what fixed your problem, @💎 Cap'tain roc 💎

?

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:22 PM

unzipping

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:22 PM

oh

well.

noby 23-Apr-20 02:22 PM

btw will the patch that learath found to fix resolution on osx be added?

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:23 PM

to SDL2, yeah

and when it's in SDL2, it'll be ported to Teeworlds

noby 23-Apr-20 02:23 PM

uh

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:23 PM

it's a SDL bug

noby 23-Apr-20 02:23 PM

no he just told me to change a couple lines in 0.7 code and i could change resolution

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:23 PM

ddnet version work if i use file manager

noby 23-Apr-20 02:23 PM

why not make those changes in official version

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:23 PM

huuh @Learath2

@💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 and teeworlds does not? even when you unzip?

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:24 PM

ddnet is 0.6. ddnet should also be in like a zip or tar archive

Learath2 23-Apr-20 02:24 PM

@Dune it also breaks the fullscreen toggle

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:24 PM

ah

noby 23-Apr-20 02:24 PM

worth it

Learath2 23-Apr-20 02:25 PM

we could do the patch and force people to restart on fullscreen toggle on osx

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Dune 23-Apr-20 02:25 PM

makes sense

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:25 PM

that doens't work when i unzip on the official version that was working on the 7.3.1 but it seems when i unzip on the ddnet version that works so ... I'm gonna use the DDnet version i think (edited)

noby 23-Apr-20 02:25 PM

yes pls

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:25 PM

@💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 what happens when you run ./teeworlds after unzipping

also, ddnet is a 0.6 modification, teeworlds 0.7 is a different game, a different set of servers

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:26 PM

then your problem is not fixed?

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:26 PM

without the point i guess @Dune ?

noby 23-Apr-20 02:26 PM

well thats one way of fixing it

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:26 PM

with the point

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:26 PM

@💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 no, with (edited)

in console

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:26 PM

ok

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:26 PM

in the teeworlds folder

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:27 PM

cd downloads/tw_folder/./teeworlds

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:28 PM

okay it workds @Dune but how i can be sure it's on 7.5

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:28 PM

press f1

too right corner

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:28 PM

on the start screen @💎 Cap'tain roc 💎

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:28 PM

top

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:28 PM

it says the version on the bottom right

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:29 PM

okay thanks

@Dune it work i can play on the 7.5

thank you very much for help me

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:29 PM

well, that does not look like a long term solution.

going the console way every time

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:30 PM

don't worry

Learath2 23-Apr-20 02:30 PM

@Dune are we okay with calling sdl functions from the main thread?

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:30 PM

@Learath2 no idea, ask oy

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:30 PM

you could try the steam version, if that helps.

Learath2 23-Apr-20 02:30 PM

It's actually pretty unsupported to be calling all these functions from an auxiliary thread

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:31 PM

in order to avoid using the terminal every time.

noby 23-Apr-20 02:31 PM

also another bug i get when in gfx highdpi 0

cant see the playerlist

or ip, or half the servers

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:31 PM

@jxsl13 i prefer lose some seconds to start the game that not being able to play the new version

noby 23-Apr-20 02:32 PM

it affects the vote menu in a similar but opposite way

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:32 PM

thank you anyway @jxsl13

noby 23-Apr-20 02:32 PM

how is this possible lol @Learath2

💎 Cap'tain roc 💎 23-Apr-20 02:33 PM

Thanks for all of you to help me to run the game

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:33 PM

there is something with nemo and running executables iirc

I forgot what it was

or was it nautilus?

noby 23-Apr-20 02:34 PM

dune help

redix 23-Apr-20 02:34 PM

@Learath2 I think most functions are called from the main thread anyway

Dune 23-Apr-20 02:35 PM

@noby clipping is fucked for some reason. hard to troubleshoot this kind of stuff because it's hard to reproduce

noby 23-Apr-20 02:35 PM

it happens everytime for me

i can try to find the lines that i changed

jxsl13 23-Apr-20 02:35 PM

ubuntu is nautilus

redix 23-Apr-20 02:37 PM

Only these sdl functions are running in the rendering thread: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/399ed371f690089ee1ef7aa68549792c4b2c8171/src/engine/client/backend_sdl.cpp#L532-L602

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/697181211021541387

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Cmd_VideoModes might also work in the main thread =\

noby 23-Apr-20 02:40 PM

[3:28 PM] Learath2: backend_sdl.cpp L703, put 702 703 704 in a block

this is the changes i made that fixed it

so that i can change resolution and use gfx_highdpi 0

Learath2 23-Apr-20 02:40 PM

@noby clipping is fucked because the resolution change happens after we get the drawable size in Init

On older macOS that is, they implemented it in such a weird way

noby 23-Apr-20 02:40 PM

hmm

i have 10.13

Learath2 23-Apr-20 02:41 PM

the correct way to do this is to instead handle the sdl event that tells us the resolution changed

it is part of my resizable teeworlds pr, but it won't work without an SDL patch

I think I have an idea to get it to work though, gimme like an hour and I should have something working

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noby 23-Apr-20 02:42 PM

cool :o

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:19 PM

noo, so close but it still needs the SDL patch

well it'd work in official releases and releases built on old macOS

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:36 PM

@noby https://github.com/Learath2/teeworlds/commit/7f594afc9be9b402263f18f866a8b59abb08cbe1 this should be fixing your highdpi issue too

sadly, the actual resizing part requires SDL 2.0.13

noby 23-Apr-20 03:37 PM

cool :o

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:38 PM

atleast this way it doesn't require the patch that I couldn't get into sdl to begin with

(it also makes dbg_resizable work reliably, so maybe it doesn't even need to be a opt-in anymore)

noby 23-Apr-20 03:41 PM

:D

should i test it

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:41 PM

well I'm scared it won't work

I don't remember if you were getting a SDL_WINDOWEVENT

give it a try anyway

you should be able to even resize the window as you are on 10.13

noby 23-Apr-20 03:42 PM

is there an easy way to pull this commit

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:42 PM

do you have my repo added as a remote?

noby 23-Apr-20 03:42 PM

can i just download as .zip

mm no ig

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:42 PM

you can just git fetch <myrepo> then git checkout <thiscommit>

git remote add learath2 https://github.com/Learath2/teeworlds.git

(idk if you can download specific commits as zip on github, that's why I suggested adding a remote)

noby 23-Apr-20 03:44 PM

it looks like u should be able to but then it gives a 500 server error so im doing it the way u said

nobody1s-MacBook-Pro:teeworlds nobody1$ git fetch https://github.com/Learath2/teeworlds fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/Learath2/teeworlds/': The requested URL returned error: 504 wtf xd

Learath2/teeworlds

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Learath2/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:45 PM

nolol

you add the remote

noby 23-Apr-20 03:45 PM

yes

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:45 PM

then you refer to it with it's name

git fetch learath2

noby 23-Apr-20 03:45 PM

oo

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:46 PM

git remote add <name> <url> is the syntax

noby 23-Apr-20 03:46 PM

still 504 error but i tried it again and it worked the second time lol

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:46 PM

maybe github is having some trouble?

noby 23-Apr-20 03:46 PM

i guess

ok compiling

?

did i do something wrong

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:48 PM

what is the value for gfx_highdpi?

noby 23-Apr-20 03:49 PM

0

bcs 1 lags me

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:49 PM

looks like it's 0 from the shitty corner rounding

hm can you change the resolution?

without closing the game

noby 23-Apr-20 03:49 PM

gfx_screen_height 800

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:49 PM

not like that

from the menu

I didn't set up chains yet

noby 23-Apr-20 03:49 PM

oh weird

apparently i can

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:50 PM

when you change the resolution it's all fine, right?

noby 23-Apr-20 03:50 PM

ooo

yeah

i have to change it in settings first but then it works and no cliping

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:50 PM

your computer is behaving VERYWEIRD

When we get the drawable size in Init, your opengl reports the highdpi resolution

but a couple ms later it starts reporting the correct resolution

noby 23-Apr-20 03:51 PM

lol wtf

is it because osx

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:52 PM

I have no idea what's wrong with it tbh, it could be some 10.13 issue

@noby I think I had an idea with watchpoints

noby 23-Apr-20 03:52 PM

dk how to use it but i can try if u tell how

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:53 PM

@noby wanna try debugging this again?

noby 23-Apr-20 03:53 PM

sure

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:54 PM

backend_sdl.cpp:L749 print *pScreenWidth and *pScreenHeight right after that

noby 23-Apr-20 03:55 PM

[2020-04-23 08:55:17][client]: starting... 2560 1600 **

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:56 PM

What is your resolution set to?

and is highdpi 0?

noby 23-Apr-20 03:56 PM

always highdpi 0, and its set to 800x600 on 0.7

on 0.6 i use 1024x768

and it makes the window the same size as 800x600 would be on 0.7 for some reason

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:57 PM

Okay, than for some reason opengl thinks highdpi is enabled at this point

noby 23-Apr-20 03:57 PM

should it check the cfg

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:58 PM

2560x1600 is weird actually

what is your desktop resolution?

noby 23-Apr-20 03:58 PM

it is my real screen resolution

2560x1600

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:58 PM

Ah, can you do that patch we did before?

to allow windows to be any size at start

noby 23-Apr-20 03:58 PM

ye how again

#if defined(CONF_PLATFORM_MACOSX) // Todo SDL: remove this when fixed (game freezes when losing focus in fullscreen) SdlFlags |= SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP; // always use "fake" fullscreen *pWindowWidth = *pDesktopWidth; *pWindowHeight = *pDesktopHeight; putting this in {} ?

Learath2 23-Apr-20 03:59 PM

yes that

only whats inside the if defined though

noby 23-Apr-20 03:59 PM

#if defined(CONF_PLATFORM_MACOSX) // Todo SDL: remove this when fixed (game freezes when losing focus in fullscreen) { SdlFlags |= SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN_DESKTOP; // always use "fake" fullscreen *pWindowWidth = *pDesktopWidth; *pWindowHeight = *pDesktopHeight; }

[2020-04-23 08:59:27][client]: starting... 2560 1600 **

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:00 PM

set your resolution as you want, then restart the client

noby 23-Apr-20 04:00 PM

it restarts with the resolution i left it at but the clipping occurs again

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:01 PM

yeah but what does the console output say?

noby 23-Apr-20 04:01 PM

[2020-04-23 09:00:35][client]: starting... 2304 1440 **

lol wtf

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:01 PM

what did you set it to?

noby 23-Apr-20 04:01 PM

gfx_screen_width 1152 gfx_screen_height 720

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:01 PM

2x, so opengl still thinks highdpi is enabled for a while

noby 23-Apr-20 04:02 PM

how fix

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:03 PM

I'm currently digging into cocoa documentation to see if there is a warning somewhere

noby 23-Apr-20 04:03 PM

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:07 PM

SDL isn't aware of this change in resolution happening, so it has to be happening inside apples opengl implementation

somewhere along the way opengl suddenly realises that we don't want highdpi

noby 23-Apr-20 04:08 PM

hmm

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:12 PM

tbf, I don't even know where to look for this

redix 23-Apr-20 04:13 PM

@Learath2 the output from SDL_GL_GetDrawableSize is wrong at startup or what's the problem?

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:13 PM

yeah it's wrong

redix 23-Apr-20 04:13 PM

actually it's called before the context is created

SDL_GL_GetDrawableSize(m_pWindow, pScreenWidth, pScreenHeight); // drawable size may differ in high dpi mode // create gl context m_GLContext = SDL_GL_CreateContext(m_pWindow);

not sure if it is related =\

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:15 PM

well CocoaGetDrawableSize doesn't use the context at all, but maybe the creating of the context is what makes osx realize that this isn't supposed to be a highdpi view

@noby can you try moving the GetDrawableSize below the creation of the context?

Trafalgar Law 23-Apr-20 04:15 PM

is it possible to play teeworlds stretched?

noby 23-Apr-20 04:16 PM

ok

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:16 PM

yeah, sure, not sure how well the ui would react though

heinrich5991 23-Apr-20 04:16 PM

gogo 4:3 stretched like real cs pros

noby 23-Apr-20 04:16 PM

SDL_GetWindowSize(m_pWindow, pWindowWidth, pWindowHeight); m_GLContext = SDL_GL_CreateContext(m_pWindow); SDL_GL_GetDrawableSize(m_pWindow, pScreenWidth, pScreenHeight);

so like this?

Trafalgar Law 23-Apr-20 04:16 PM

I wan't try it @heinrich5991 :_(

but its not working for me

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:16 PM

yeah, and move the debug message too, so we see if the resolution is fine

heinrich5991 23-Apr-20 04:17 PM

I think tw adapts to the width/height of the window

not sure if you can stretch it

noby 23-Apr-20 04:17 PM

printf("%d %d **\n", *pScreenWidth, *pScreenHeight); SDL_GL_GetDrawableSize(m_pWindow, pScreenWidth, pScreenHeight); // drawable size may differ in high dpi mode printf("%d %d **\n", *pScreenWidth, *pScreenHeight);

-1 -1 1152 720

seems better

clipping goes away too :D

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:18 PM

@noby so creating the context indeed is what makes macOS realize this isn't supposed to be a highdpi surface

noby 23-Apr-20 04:18 PM

oo

so is that the fix?

just switching those two lines

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:18 PM

(yeah tw adapts to the height and width, so it won't stretch)

@noby yeah I think it is

noby 23-Apr-20 04:19 PM

does it break anything on other OS

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:19 PM

can you just checkout master and check if just swapping those around helps?

noby 23-Apr-20 04:19 PM

ok

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:20 PM

maybe we should tell the SDL people too so they can add a warning to the documentation of SDL_GL_GetDrawableSize

Teeworlds mobile edition?

noby 23-Apr-20 04:22 PM

lol

and same problem as before now

cant change res

Dune 23-Apr-20 04:22 PM

good luck reading stuff

noby 23-Apr-20 04:22 PM

[2020-04-23 09:22:05][client]: starting... 1280 800

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:22 PM

@noby yeah, that's expected, we can't remove that restriction without an sdl patch

I guess we can do what I suggested before

noby 23-Apr-20 04:22 PM

the { }

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:23 PM

don't allow toggling fullscreen in macOS without a restart

noby 23-Apr-20 04:23 PM

yes

Learath2 23-Apr-20 04:23 PM

until SDL 2.0.13 lands (edited)

@noby thanks for debugging it, I'll do both and make a pr you can test

noby 23-Apr-20 04:24 PM

np

cool ty

redix 23-Apr-20 06:37 PM

@Learath2 can you imagine any reason, why SDL_GetNumDisplayModes and SDL_GetDisplayMode are in the rendering thread? Other functions like SDL_GetDisplayBounds are directly called from the main thread

Learath2 23-Apr-20 06:39 PM

not at all, especially given they concern neither the context nor the window

redix 23-Apr-20 06:41 PM

okay. it would probably be better to move them to the main thread then

Valet 23-Apr-20 11:36 PM

Кто русский?

Who speak on russian?

Dune 23-Apr-20 11:42 PM

english only here

a gerdoe 24-Apr-20 07:29 AM

@Valet what do you want buddy (edited)

Deleted User 24-Apr-20 01:24 PM

i do

fokkonaut 24-Apr-20 01:51 PM

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 01:55 PM

fokkonaut 24-Apr-20 01:58 PM

@heinrich5991 I hate how 0.7 removed everything from the snaps :(

Well, I am talking about the CPlayer snap

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:19 PM

petition to stop this madness and put player info back into the snap

in 0.8 ofc

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:20 PM

the idea why it was moved out of the snap was because the new skin info made the player info huge

which kind of makes sense, because the whole snapshot is sent in the beginning a couple of times because the client hasn't acked any yet

the problem is that we have a mismatch between the snap world and the game message world (but we also had that before)

there are two different states, one for stuff in the snap and one for stuff in game messages

in 0.6, there was the problem that we couldn't clearly associate player IDs to chat messages or kill messages

because snaps might get lost that carry the necessary data about the player name

now we have the problem that we don't know the names of ingame tees, because snaps might arrive before the relevant game messages

I don't know a sane way out of this

if you have an idea, please enlighten me

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:23 PM

I have one, not breaking status quo until we come up with an idea

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:24 PM

that's obviously not a solution to the problem I stated

Assa 24-Apr-20 03:24 PM

that's obviously not a solution to anything

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:25 PM

it is, to not breaking things e.g.

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:25 PM

it's a superset, it's the default solution one should take for any issue that comes up

Dune 24-Apr-20 03:25 PM

I don't see it to be a big deal that we don't know the names of tees

Well, some components would need to be adapted

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:25 PM

@Dune do you know how we handle missing tees? I bet it's handled really implicitly

like no one really thought about it

Dune 24-Apr-20 03:26 PM

What do you mean by missing?

I can't think of a situation where we have missing tees atm?

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:26 PM

snapshot comes in with an ID we don't know

tee is right next to us (edited)

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:26 PM

a snap that arrives before game messages can cause a tee not to exist

Dune 24-Apr-20 03:26 PM

But that doesn't happen atm, right

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:26 PM

why not?

please read the description I gave above @Dune

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:26 PM

there is nothing in the code that provides synchronisation

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:26 PM

I tried to state the problem above

(the code in 0.6 had the same problem, just in different places)

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:28 PM

@heinrich5991 I'm not sure if forcing synchronisation is a good idea though, it might require us to wait for either a game message or a snap, which is not desirable performance/fluidity wise

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:30 PM

waiting is not the solution

I thought that not reusing player IDs might help

i.e. only ever increase them

that would help the client detect such a situation and let it handle an unknown player

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:31 PM

that doesn't solve the broader issue of synchronisation between the game messages and snaps, it only solves this specific instance of it

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:31 PM

it seems to me that the problem of synchronization is mostly that of player IDs

what else is there?

hm. map changes

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:32 PM

well I haven't really thought of any other problem, but I never really thought about the issue in general

How about something like "vital" snaps with associated serial numbers? We can send the serial in game messages and only increase the serial when the gameworld significantly changes?

The client would know that it missed a snap if a game message with a serial in the future arrives

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:33 PM

ah, you mean tracking of generations of snaps, basically?

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:33 PM

any issues we can think about, we could increase the serial number for

y ^^

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:35 PM

so. how does the client react to a snapshot that it doesn't have the game messages for?

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:36 PM

the client wouldn't know if there are game messages for a given snap in this scheme

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:37 PM

hm. then we still have the "missing player" problem

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:38 PM

well missing player wouldn't be an issue, you'd get a game message with a serial in the future, thus we'd know if the id in this message refers to someone that doesn't exist

but with a bigger connection issue you'd get a "substituted player" issue instead

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:38 PM

IDs get reused

yes

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:39 PM

that we can't detect

well we could just hold game messages that we can hold on to until the snap we need arrives?

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:41 PM

yes

hm. I think the player names/clans are better suited as messages

that way we always know which IDs to associated with chat messages, etc.

if they were in snaps, we might entirely miss players

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:42 PM

well, right now startinfo is already a part of messages not snaps

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:42 PM

yes

so the snaps only need another integer that says which generation of game information it applies to

hm, no, that's not sufficient

we'd still need a way to find out if a player rejoined or not

so we'd still need never-reused player IDs

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:44 PM

[4:43 PM] heinrich5991: we'd still need a way to find out if a player rejoined or not what for?

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:44 PM

for not displaying wrong kill messages, etc.

ah no

for not displaying wrong nameplates

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:44 PM

If we don't have current enough game info, we hold on to the game message

hm, nameplates are indeed an issue

tbh, with this scheme, as soon as you get a game message in the future, you really shouldn't be displaying any information that we are keeping track of with generations

but that's not really desirable

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:45 PM

we can display an unknown player

if the player names etc. remain in the game messages and we only have the problem in snaps

we can use non-reused client IDs for tracking players

then we always know whether we know the player name

and if not, we just display (unknown player)

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:47 PM

I guess we could just do non-reused client ids, we didn't come up with any other issues anyway

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:47 PM

map change

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:47 PM

I was trying to avoid the rather large rework required by the non-reused client ids

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:48 PM

we can still make sure that client_id % 64 remains unique (edited)

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:48 PM

you'd either need an ugly translation layer or actually rework every array that has MAX_CLIENTS elements to a sparse array

Both making sure that's unique and the rework would be rather ugly, no?

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:50 PM

why?

that allows us to keep using the MAX_CLIENT arrays

without a translation layer

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:50 PM

while(m_aSomeArray[cid % 64]) cid++; to assign a client id

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:51 PM

yes, can keep a free list if you want performance

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:51 PM

to make sure we never re use one we'd have to always start from the last client id we assigned

cid might grow faster then expected with 64p servers

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:52 PM

max 64 per player in the worst case

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:52 PM

if player 64 keeps leaving and rejoining, cid would keep getting +64 basically

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:52 PM

yes

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:53 PM

I guess with a long it'd take quite some time before overflow ever becomes an issue

and we could keep track of the oldest id we've used for a given client and as people leave, open up the earlier parts of the id space

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:54 PM

we get 33 million joins in the worst case

with 31 bit integers

recycle those after a map change and it's fine

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:54 PM

hm, how did you come up with 33m?

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:55 PM

2**31 // 2**6 // 1000 // 1000 in python (edited)

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:57 PM

why divide by 1000?

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:58 PM

to get the number of millions

Learath2 24-Apr-20 03:58 PM

ah

hm, I think += 64 is really the worst case

I couldn't come up with a worse one

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 03:58 PM

me neither

redix 24-Apr-20 04:23 PM

before the player snap info is saved, the client checks if the slot is active actually that does not seem to be the case for characters

so there should not be any wrong entries in the scoreboard but there might be tees without name

in general the snapshots need some more validation. for example sending a character with a far future tick value isn't a good idea

Tezcan 24-Apr-20 07:00 PM

Is there a tool to convert 0.7 maps to 0.6?

Dune 24-Apr-20 07:00 PM

no, only the other way around, afaik

Tezcan 24-Apr-20 07:00 PM

:/

Dune 24-Apr-20 07:00 PM

0.6 doesn't have all the tilsets 0.7 has anyway, so it wouldn't be possible in the general case

Tezcan 24-Apr-20 07:01 PM

tilesets doesn't matter

timakro 24-Apr-20 07:01 PM

(you could just embed them)

Tezcan 24-Apr-20 07:01 PM

the format changed

yes

timakro 24-Apr-20 07:02 PM

tile layer format specifically i believe

a gerdoe 24-Apr-20 07:11 PM

@ChillerDragon create a playlist with teeprogramming videos

Rimso 24-Apr-20 07:30 PM

Hi ! after upgrading ubuntu to 20.04, I have this error and I can't play anymore, cas someone help ?

[2020-04-24 19:28:29][client]: starting... X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 152 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GLXCreateContext) Value in failed request: 0x0 Serial number of failed request: 96 Current serial number in output stream: 97

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 07:34 PM

@Rimso try rebooting if you haven't already

Rimso 24-Apr-20 07:42 PM

ah it was so simple, thanks

heinrich5991 24-Apr-20 07:44 PM

a gerdoe 24-Apr-20 07:49 PM

;d

Assa 24-Apr-20 10:22 PM

the prediction dies on 0.7 with throughhook tiles

not that I am mad that a hack looks hacky

fokkonaut 24-Apr-20 10:23 PM

?

Assa 24-Apr-20 10:24 PM

even the demo lags <.ö<

Sonix 25-Apr-20 10:13 AM

If anyone wants to grab some non-standard skins for 0.7

here you go: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=125622#p125622

Trafalgar Law 25-Apr-20 12:12 PM

Sick @Sonix Nice work!

Sonix 25-Apr-20 12:16 PM

Thank you @Trafalgar Law

Assa 25-Apr-20 12:24 PM

I didn't know i want a skin with horns, but here you go

Deleted User 25-Apr-20 12:24 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/master/src/game/client/components/chat.cpp#L992

Fix macOS SDL2 issues by Learath2 · Pull Request #2593 · teeworlds/...

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

a gerdoe 25-Apr-20 12:27 PM

buffer size isnt enough for some translations @Dune

and that russian translation isnt good too xd

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 12:34 PM

improve it

the german version got okayish

a gerdoe 25-Apr-20 12:38 PM

oke

Dune 25-Apr-20 12:43 PM

@a gerdoe gotta abbreviate, etc., make it fit

a gerdoe 25-Apr-20 12:45 PM

oh god, that great russian language...

there are no abbreviates

only slang can reduce it

Deleted User 25-Apr-20 12:48 PM

Large text in itself, I think there may be problems not only with the russian language

a gerdoe 25-Apr-20 12:49 PM

+

and if you have time for it, @Dune make symbol limit on transifex

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 12:49 PM

you could shorten the translation a bit:

Assa 25-Apr-20 12:49 PM

yeah i fixed some stuff on the german version

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 12:49 PM

"Press tab. Whispers might be logged by the server." (edited)

a gerdoe 25-Apr-20 12:51 PM

done

Dune 25-Apr-20 12:51 PM

No @a gerdoe , because characters do not have a fixed size, the max characters you can use varies (l vs w)

a gerdoe 25-Apr-20 12:51 PM

ehm?

c-strings have const size

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 12:52 PM

you can translate a message to something that is longer than the original message

the translation system handles that fine

the actual rendering in teeworlds differs (as Dune remarked), e.g. see i and M

a gerdoe 25-Apr-20 12:53 PM

yeah, yall talking about gui

okey okey

i told about buffer size, that max size is 127 (edited)

at stich's example (edited)

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 01:12 PM

where do you see a max buffer size

Dune 25-Apr-20 01:12 PM

Aah in the code

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 01:12 PM

link?

Dune 25-Apr-20 01:12 PM

See his github link

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 01:12 PM

ah

that str_format is completely unnecessary there

Dune 25-Apr-20 01:13 PM

Yes

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 01:13 PM

should just be TextRender()->TextEx(&InfoCursor, Localize(…), -1);

who's going to do the PR?

Dune 25-Apr-20 01:13 PM

I'm on phone

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 01:14 PM

k, I'll do it then

Learath2 25-Apr-20 01:14 PM

Any idea how best to fix https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2593 ?

I couldn't test the usage of ToggleFullscreen in changing screens (I don't have an extra screen) This fixes a bug on macOS 10.13 where the NSView won't realise the window is...

another ifdef around the variable definition?

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 01:17 PM

#ifdef CONF_PLATFORM_MACOS const bool CHECK_FULLSCREEN = true; #else const bool CHECK_FULLSCREEN = false; #endif

&& (!CHECK_FULLSCREEN || s_GfxFullscreen == Config()->m_GfxFullscreen)

or

bool CheckFullscreen = false; #ifdef CONF_PLATFORM_MACOS CheckFullscreen = true; #endif

(edited)

Learath2 25-Apr-20 01:19 PM

huh that's clever

Sonix 25-Apr-20 01:25 PM

@Dune what's up the 50hz pr?

less effects happening after it?

Dune 25-Apr-20 01:25 PM

Yes, half

This kind of design decisions shouldn't be made because of code artifacts

Sonix 25-Apr-20 01:26 PM

why is there even 50hz and 100hz? do they have heavy impact?

Dune 25-Apr-20 01:26 PM

Twice as much smoke

With 50Hz

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 01:29 PM

yes, doing behavior changes due to code looking weird is bad IMO

AbdoZX17 25-Apr-20 04:30 PM

anyone know why I have slow hook in teeworlds 0.7

Sonix 25-Apr-20 04:40 PM

finger lag?

AbdoZX17 25-Apr-20 04:43 PM

I don't know why I have slow hook in teeworlds 0.7 in ddnet I don't have

a gerdoe 25-Apr-20 04:47 PM

are different teeworlds' versions physics different

AbdoZX17 25-Apr-20 04:51 PM

??

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 04:53 PM

@AbdoZX17 what is slow hook?

does the actual hook move slower over the map?

does the hook trigger later when you click the mouse button?

AbdoZX17 25-Apr-20 04:56 PM

@heinrich5991 the hook is strange and slow I don't know how I say that (edited)

but I need fix it because I can't play teeworlds 0.7 I play only ddnet

heinrich5991 25-Apr-20 04:58 PM

is the hook slow on the map?

or does it take long until the hook triggers?

a gerdoe 25-Apr-20 04:58 PM

@AbdoZX17 send videos if you can of course

AbdoZX17 25-Apr-20 04:59 PM

@heinrich5991 the hook slow in the map i think

@a gerdoe ok

jxsl13 25-Apr-20 05:14 PM

hook-through tiles prediction slow or everywhere slow?

Assa 25-Apr-20 06:41 PM

hook-through tiles prediction is not implemented in default client

thus the client thinks the hook failed while the server thinks you hooked and predicts a totally different movement

fokkonaut 25-Apr-20 07:47 PM

use F-Client

2

1

AbdoZX17 25-Apr-20 08:08 PM

@fokkonaut I use F-Client but nothing hhhhh

@jxsl13 I think everywhere

Choscura 26-Apr-20 12:30 PM

So I have an idea I'm casually pursuing, to make a sidescrolling version of something like the 3 different play styles in aliens vs predators fps franchise, basically there's a grappling hook play style in that game for the predators, the humans have jetpacks, and the aliens can climb the walls

basically I think these mechanics in sidescroller form already exist, so I'm gonna try to figure out how to do that in teeworld maps, and then maybe add a lighting mechanic so the human players can only see where their flashlight shines, sort of thing

Zatline 26-Apr-20 12:33 PM

that sounds really cool

Choscura 26-Apr-20 12:33 PM

eh, it's a cool idea I think, but it's another thing to actually make it

I'm not a kick ass developer or anything but I think I can do this, so I'm basically saying "guys I might need help if you think is cool 2 plox" but at the moment that's about the state of the idea, "aliens that play sort of like the original gex, sticxing to floors walls and ceilings and also backgrounds that are immediate", so you can climb up cave walls or the walls inside a building but not the far away scenery or sky type logic

the jetpack playstyle, soldat is the game that's the classic example

Dune 26-Apr-20 12:39 PM

Ideas are cheap

The great Teeworlds gameplays are those who understand the limitations of the game and cleverly work around it.

Choscura 26-Apr-20 12:39 PM

that's sort of why the idea is to hack at the mechanics in the infection mod

the mercenary class there has a neat jetpack mechanic via the pistol

that's at least a starting point

the 'stick to walls' bit, for the gameplay barrier walls, the idea is to use the existing grappling hook, with a radius of 1, and 4 of them radiating from the player and allowing traversal/automatically attaching detaching to near blocks when in 'climbing state'

so that mechanic, minus sound effect, lets a tee jump to and stick on wall, then climb up/down it

ditto ceiling

have to jump all the way to ceiling now, no more grapple, but can climb to ceiling if no hard barriers that are unclimbable

I sort of like the mechanics of moving and jumping in n++ and super meatboy so I want some level of this kind of bouncy-ness from it, and teeworlds is a good game for that kind of responsiveness as a baseline

basically my thought is to take the 'jump' and make it work for the 'alien class' as a 'jump 90 degrees from the surface you're on', so you jump out from walls, and if you jump up also your momentum upward is added to by each jump a little bit so you can accelerate upwards

other than that basic logic set, some sort of menu selection of "I want to be that class" or maybe even "if you are a and you get killed by b, you respawn as c" logic

aaand I'll probably put it into some kind of ctf map to try it out

that's about my thought process for 'how to pursue this'

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 01:35 PM

sounds cool, maybe someone will make it as a mod

Choscura 26-Apr-20 02:26 PM

I mean, the idea is that I'm going to attempt to, lol

maybe I'll fuck up and not actually succeed, but I'll try

added the build dependencies

gonna grok a bit

jxsl13 26-Apr-20 04:21 PM

zCatch now also available on Windows (thanks to bleeding)

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 04:28 PM

xd

windows server 2003

LCPL Cat 26-Apr-20 06:49 PM

This user is sending advertisements from this server

getkey 26-Apr-20 06:50 PM

Yes I got the same

This server is the only common server I have with them

LCPL Cat 26-Apr-20 06:51 PM

Probs because it’s not moderated as heavily

getkey 26-Apr-20 06:51 PM

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 06:51 PM

another school-mc server

Souly 26-Apr-20 06:53 PM

someone ddos that server pls

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 06:54 PM

xd

oke

1

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 11:18 PM

@Trafalgar Law u can edit the code of server side and make a command that changing skin (edited)

Trafalgar Law 26-Apr-20 11:18 PM

I know

AbdoZX17 26-Apr-20 11:18 PM

@LCPL Cat this teeworlds server?

Trafalgar Law 26-Apr-20 11:18 PM

But I mean a function which change a skin

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 11:19 PM

func or chat command

Trafalgar Law 26-Apr-20 11:19 PM

function

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 11:19 PM

ah yes ofc

1 sec please

sendskinchange on gamecontext.h/.cpp

Trafalgar Law 26-Apr-20 11:23 PM

Well is the targetid then the skin buddy or what?

AbdoZX17 26-Apr-20 11:25 PM

anyone have good gameskin or skin pls

Trafalgar Law 26-Apr-20 11:26 PM

https://i.imgur.com/Q0YALpw.png

Sonix 26-Apr-20 11:26 PM

lmao

AbdoZX17 26-Apr-20 11:27 PM

Rly

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 11:27 PM

uhm

i think targetid is clientid of that tee who wnats skin change

Trafalgar Law 26-Apr-20 11:28 PM

@Sonix I'm playing really with this game.png xD

Its nice

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 11:28 PM

clientids info is a template of skin

i think

but you can checj it

just find all references by vsc

or similsr shit

AbdoZX17 26-Apr-20 11:35 PM

is there a gameskin for spikes in fng?

Trafalgar Law 26-Apr-20 11:35 PM

use my

YOu will get a pro

In Gores

AbdoZX17 26-Apr-20 11:36 PM

Oh send it

But i ask for fng

XD

There is a skin for spikes or no

jxsl13 26-Apr-20 11:40 PM

hm, default gameskin masterrace, bitch, I'm in!(rick&morty reference)

a gerdoe 26-Apr-20 11:46 PM

memes 100

Deleted User 27-Apr-20 12:00 AM

i needd originaele skin oh m gat

a gerdoe 27-Apr-20 12:03 AM

ou vey wut

Skayland 27-Apr-20 02:01 AM

i dont even know what gameskin i use, i forgot totally

i dont pay attention to that

a gerdoe 27-Apr-20 09:01 PM

@ChillerDragon yeah this looks good

jxsl13 27-Apr-20 09:50 PM

@Dune e pls give @a gerdoe bridge access, it's weird when he answers stuff here that's being discussed in the bridge.

a gerdoe 27-Apr-20 09:50 PM

xd

jxsl13 27-Apr-20 09:52 PM

In any case, beware of satan mother cat.

you could use sneaky 90's IRC technology to join the bridge from the IRC side ;0

a gerdoe 27-Apr-20 09:54 PM

mama cat is sitting as guest at my brother's flat

:(

yeah

jxsl13 27-Apr-20 09:54 PM

thank god, you don't have to fear for your life anymore.

a gerdoe 27-Apr-20 09:54 PM

but im too lazy to download some program with gui

jxsl13 27-Apr-20 09:54 PM

at least for a few days.

a gerdoe 27-Apr-20 09:54 PM

ah im a dumbass

manjaro has implemented irc program

jxsl13 27-Apr-20 09:55 PM

you can use the webchat

of quakenet?

a gerdoe 27-Apr-20 09:58 PM

yeah, as i know (edited)

heinrich5991 27-Apr-20 10:06 PM

@a gerdoe the channel description of #bridge even tells you whom to contact if you want to have access

a gerdoe 27-Apr-20 10:06 PM

yeah heinrich, i know, it was jxsl's suggestion

Dune 27-Apr-20 10:10 PM

@jxsl13 what heinrich said

jxsl13 27-Apr-20 11:16 PM

@a gerdoe what heinrich said. request the rights while this channel is active! (edited)

get those freshly baked bridge access rights!

a gerdoe 28-Apr-20 08:50 AM

maybe its my personal issue

but after folding teeworlds and entering again i cant use my keyboard

and if im scrolling mouse in the ingame settings menu he goes over into serverlist

jxsl13 29-Apr-20 02:06 AM

@Sonix did you make ctf_tantum? if yes, what exact name does this map go by? simply ctf_tantum?

was told it's been created by @heinrich5991

Sonix 29-Apr-20 07:09 AM

Yes i Made it, it’s one of the first versions

Nowadays it goes by the name of ctf8

fokkonaut 29-Apr-20 01:09 PM

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 01:51 PM

Hello

So I've been curious as to what's been going on in the community lately

are there any large events planned in the future? have there been any efforts to revitalize the community?

jxsl13 29-Apr-20 03:10 PM

I think content and mod creation is the best way to help in that regard.

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 03:52 PM

also you can check community part at the teeworlds forum

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 03:53 PM

yeah, that's one thing

I feel like I have a lot of questions, what about official servers? Were there any plans to have some? Is the general consensus on yes/no?

resources lacking?

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 03:56 PM

for... what?

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 03:56 PM

there's not really initiative for doing something like that

one possible reason would be matchmaking

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 03:57 PM

official servers aint be popular because vanilla mods dead already...( (edited)

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 03:57 PM

yeah... while reading on the forums I saw that concern raised and theory given that it is due to the misbalance

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 03:58 PM

@heinrich5991 i think matchmaking might be only with account system -> no opensource

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 03:58 PM

an account system is orthogonal to open source

you can have one, and the other

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 03:58 PM

maybe some mod-creators would create private matchmaking client/server

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 03:59 PM

I, for one, support all ideas that would help in filling the vanilla gamemode servers

question, is there some sort of chart to see how peak players flunctuated over the years?

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 04:00 PM

uhm

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 04:00 PM

I remember there being like 1.3k active players on 0.6 several years ago (counting all gamemodes)

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 04:01 PM

i dont know is that service working but yes

and i forget name...

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 04:03 PM

oh, I found one, status.tw

unfortunately, I don't think it runs it over the years, which is a shame

LordSk 29-Apr-20 04:05 PM

@heinrich5991 Do you know mastodon?

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:05 PM

I'm aware of it

I'm not using

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 04:06 PM

so... going back to matchmaking... what's the current consensus on that? I'm just interested

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:06 PM

I think no one is motivated to do anything on that tbh

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 04:06 PM

real interested

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:06 PM

at least I'm not aware of anyone

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 04:06 PM

ah I see

so it's not out of the question, just missing manpower willing to work on it, got it

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:07 PM

I think there's also some people opposed to it in the sense that they won't do anything that helps this project

1

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 04:07 PM

wouldn't be surprised

no matchmaking feels tee-ish, as in, one is just used to it not being part of the teeworlds

having an active server for each difficulty, (casual, advanced, expert) could work wonders. The issue would be having players in those servers. Currently, all skill groups are meshed into one or two servers usually which often creates large skill disparity and possibly makes the newbies feel... hopeless? (edited)

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:22 PM

yes, definitely

when people can't go up a ledge and are up against players that go at insanely fast speeds on ctf5, it's hopeless ^^

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 04:25 PM

creates a breed of players who are persevere enough to try to climb that ledge

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:27 PM

You can't prevent good players from joining noob servers anyway

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 04:27 PM

0.4-0.5 is gold time of vanilla

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:28 PM

you can if you have a ranking system, @Dune

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:28 PM

Well @Dune a matchmaking system could indeed prevent people from joining noob servers

that's the point of matchmaking, we do the matching

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:28 PM

What happens with a lot of games that are as old as Teeworlds: it gets harder for newcomers to fit in

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:28 PM

people still join cs:go just fine

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:28 PM

(games like csgo overcome that with matchmaking)

it's like we are telepathic

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:29 PM

@Learath2 you would need a large population and even then I'm not convinced you would be able to prevent smurfs :/

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:29 PM

oh definitely not, smurfs were always a thing

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:29 PM

@heinrich5991 isn't it a paying game

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:29 PM

@Dune no, you can play it for free, these days

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:29 PM

Huh

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 04:30 PM

smurfing would still be an issue, yes. But at least all the goods players wouldn't be forced in with the newbies. The people that are cruel enough to play against noobs all the time are definitely a %

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:30 PM

But I don't think we have enough players to make this a reality

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:30 PM

CS exists since 2000, older than teeworlds

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:30 PM

All 10-year old games I know are really tough to get in as a complete noob :/ maybe CS is =/=

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:30 PM

people still join the game

I think people are also still joining LoL

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:31 PM

You cant join LoL matchmaking as a noob, you get rekt

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:31 PM

With CS they can aggressively move smurfs up the ranks and prime matchmaking prevents free smurfs from ruining paid noobs games

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:31 PM

I have 4 years of experience and I get smashed in bronze

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:31 PM

@Dune a couple of times, then you get into wood league

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 04:31 PM

1998*

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:31 PM

I thought so too... but its all smurfs

Maybe there are some better anti smurfs system in csgo etc

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 04:31 PM

xd

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:32 PM

But that would be very complex to do on Teeworlds while being transparent

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:32 PM

lol has a nice 30 level buffer to discourage smurfing

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:32 PM

@Learath2 somehow doesn't work afaict

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:32 PM

atleast it used to take quite some time to get to level 30

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:33 PM

It does but the bottom of matchmaking is still stupid hard, no noob seems to play ranked

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:33 PM

cs:go tries to match smurfs with smurfs IIRC

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:33 PM

well as someone who spent a long time in bronze, it made me realise that it's more that your team mates are retarded then the other team having smurfs

it gets exponentially hard to get out of bronze because 1 person is hardly enough to carry 4 dimwits

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 04:34 PM

shouldn't the other team be full of silly people as well?

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:34 PM

in theory, you don't need to do that, though; you only need to be the deciding factor in a couple of games

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:34 PM

No but like, the players are really good imo. Everyone knows how to last hit etc, things were different at the beginning of the game

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:35 PM

well after I climbed up to the top of silver games were much more evenly matched

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:35 PM

in the lowest ranks of cs:go, you see people emptying their whole magazine without killing each other

Dune 29-Apr-20 04:35 PM

So cs:go works well, interesting

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:36 PM

anyway, managing a ladder is tough

Well I have 2 low rank csgo accounts I purposefully keep at a low rank to have fun

heinrich5991 29-Apr-20 04:37 PM

do people playing with you get a 'low trustfactor' warning?

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:37 PM

hm, not sure

couldn't play for 2 months

Learath2 29-Apr-20 04:47 PM

hm, does the quad space have different coordinates for the screen?

seems the middle of the background quad is at 0, 0 not the TL corner

Sonix 29-Apr-20 05:40 PM

im for matchmaking too @Stiopa

nowadays your only solution, if you want to play, is to join a random server filled with all sorts of players which is of course bad for newcomers as they may get discouraged and "meh" for good players who have no other option

back in the days active players would sit idle in a server to wait for some good players, but that eventually vanished as it's time consuming

with matchmaking players with the same ranking who start playing at around the same time could get redirected to one server that fits their query (f.e. CTF game)

Choscura 29-Apr-20 06:53 PM

matchmaking is A solution but not THE solution, and basically I'm of the opinion that some kind of balancing mechanism that accounted for kill streaks and kill-death ratio (or score-death ratio for score based gameplay like ctf) that adjusted the max values of health and armor accordingly (nerfing up noobs and paring down the pro players) this would solve enough of the matchmaking woes that it would be a coherently challenging game between both the VERY experienced players and the new ones

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 06:54 PM

eh?

Choscura 29-Apr-20 06:54 PM

obviously the threshold on this would be something to be available to be tweaked but I'm thinking something along the lines of, for every 5 kills on a streak you get your max armor you can pick up drops by one

ditto health

so the guys that can FLY across the map with three rocket jumps, can still do that a few time and go pick up some armor or health to do more

also same mechanic of the noobs, 5 deaths in a streak with no kills and it nerfs you back up

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 06:55 PM

for every 5 kills on a streak you get your max armor you can pick up drops by one

i think it isnt needed

Choscura 29-Apr-20 06:56 PM

eh, I think as a mechanic this works with every player all of the time as a balancing mechanic that doesn't require accounts or any kind of validation

literally "my son and I can trade computers mid-lan-party and this will balance based on our scores not our accounts"

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 06:57 PM

uhm

its nice idea

Choscura 29-Apr-20 06:57 PM

it's a matter of making it, I'm aware :P

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 06:58 PM

maybe for all first match must be as "balancing"

Choscura 29-Apr-20 06:58 PM

well yeah as the server gets more data it can balance better

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 06:58 PM

+

Choscura 29-Apr-20 06:58 PM

but the point is, there's not enough players to do matchmaking

there's not a billion queued up assholes waiting to play zcatch

there's the same 20 people plus like 2 new people a week

most of whom drop out

Learath2 29-Apr-20 06:59 PM

eh, I don't like this kind of balancing, the game rules and behaviour should be consistent across the board

Choscura 29-Apr-20 06:59 PM

I think this is a compromise balancing mechanism

also have thought about "hit calculating algorithm" etc different mechanisms changing by score

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 06:59 PM

solo modes cant be balanced because online is too small yeh

Learath2 29-Apr-20 06:59 PM

by treating better players unfairly

Choscura 29-Apr-20 06:59 PM

so a lower scoring player has a greedier "did I hit" calculation mechanism

it's not that this is unfair treatment

it's that, if you work hard to be the best, the game balances so your hard work matches the hard work the other players can do

jxsl13 29-Apr-20 07:00 PM

you cannot completely prevent people from joining noob servers.

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:00 PM

you can still be best, you just have to REALLY pick your shots

yeah I know

but I think, it can still be fun for the noob to "go hunt the monster player" if they can kill him in one shot

more educational gameplay, still challenging for the advanced player because it's constricted resources

less frustrating for everybody

advanced player doesn't have to nerf themself down to hammer or whatever

I think we've all seen this, right?

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:02 PM

oh god

jxsl13 29-Apr-20 07:02 PM

I'm hosting a zCatch beginner server, that prevents players from joining based on "ranking", but without a proper account system this is easy to bypass. (even with ip caching). and with an account system, people might simply make new accounts.

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:02 PM

i forgot about "must-have" thing at teeworlds

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:02 PM

what's that

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:02 PM

noob players learn mechanics of playing from pro players

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:03 PM

yeah

so it's important they CAN play together in a way that doesn't make them rage and or bore quit

jxsl13 29-Apr-20 07:03 PM

gotta have a sms based account verification system.

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:03 PM

that's stupid

jxsl13 29-Apr-20 07:03 PM

that would prevent much

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:03 PM

xd

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:03 PM

you should be able to just play without a phone

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:03 PM

so

teeworlds is a casual game

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:03 PM

too many kids, is what I'm thinking of

too many internet cafes

too many "one computer and 100 people sharing it"

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:04 PM

i was a kid at 0.5

jxsl13 29-Apr-20 07:04 PM

now you are a cat

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:04 PM

and I'm dad

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:04 PM

but but later i had become pro

xd

middle player maybe

but now i want my previous skill

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:04 PM

I think I'm OK, not a great player

that ctrl + shift + D thing makes ZCatch hit calculations make a LOT more sense

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:05 PM

xd

ping makes sense

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:05 PM

yeah but if you know where you gonna be hit it's easier to make that a smaller harder-to-hit target

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:05 PM

experience

half year of playing

or month

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:06 PM

no I mean having an actual mechanism to see

try it

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:06 PM

antiping lol

Learath2 29-Apr-20 07:06 PM

this'd only ever be in a mod, I'm sure most would agree that it's not a great idea to apply game mechanics inconsistently

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Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:06 PM

hit ctrl + shift + D when you play

developer view

or something

well I think this would be a mode of the game, not a mod

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:07 PM

i know about it ma boy (edited)

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:07 PM

it's not a different game, it's just "the balanced mode"

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:07 PM

but antiping better

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:07 PM

even, for zcatch with one-hit-kills, you can change the algorithm of hit calculation

'antiping'?

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:07 PM

look up ddnet client 0.6

or gamer client

or all 0.6 clients

not vanilla ofc

in some case its simillar to antiping

(sorry for my bad english, i cant learn it well)

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:12 PM

lol your english is good dude

I pretend to speak it as a second language in teeworlds, BECAUSE I see so many people with good enough english, who are shy about using it with native speaking cunts

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:13 PM

my grammar isnt good as i want

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:13 PM

you will learn more with experience, I understand you perfectly and most people would as well, even if you do small single-word slipups occasionally

eg "my grammar isn't as good as I want"

"as" is one of those funny english quantity words for comparing, particularly things less-than. "as much as I want" "as far as you want to go" "as long as a foreskin" etc

kind of communicates a limit, but you used the rest of the structure such that I understood your ideas, and so would everybody else, because you are learning to use this tool.

anyway, I should note, I've officially started doc-specing out that alien-vs-predator mod thing I want to try making in teeworlds

tldr version, the idea is the aliens vs predator 3-class system of grappling hook vs jetpack vs climbing characters, predators vs humans vs aliens in this case, and to hack-and-mangle-in the mechanics of teeworld to approximate something like soldat for the 'human class' and something like gex + super meatboy + n++ for 'alien class'

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:19 PM

"panic with classes" :d

Choscura 29-Apr-20 07:19 PM

&& maybe also some graphics stuff of "aliens see the whole map but in red and black with the players lit up in white, predators see the whole screen as gray except where the surroundings change around them + lit up characters in the direction they look, humans see where their flashlight is shining"

I think the predator vision thing of "you can see heat vision, where you're looking/aiming" is a way to both account for that ability but also make it sorta more fair

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 07:37 PM

well, to implement matchmaking, you will need to match make for people.

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 07:39 PM

well

to implement matchmaking we need people

more

and more

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 07:46 PM

to have matchmaking, you first need a playerbase, and then a constant influx of players to fill the bottom tiers

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 08:00 PM

in fact... now I'm curious, how did teeworlds get players in the first years?

sinety 29-Apr-20 08:00 PM

matchmaking would also need player accounts?

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 08:01 PM

I suppose so, yeah

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 08:01 PM

uhm

sinety 29-Apr-20 08:01 PM

and i dont think it makes sense to have lack of players be an obstacle for adding features to a game

as those could in turn attract players

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 08:02 PM

matchmaking would also need player accounts?

no and yes

sinety 29-Apr-20 08:02 PM

and matchmaking could also be done by having two teams have a similiar skill even if noobs and pros play at the same time

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 08:04 PM

well, I'm not against adding it, I just think that there needs to be something to attract the players once that is implemented

something like a short term player influx to vanilla matchmaking could be a release date, where people all join at once, causing the matchmaking to start shaping out

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 08:18 PM

@sinety it doesn't quite solve the "hopelessness" of the casual player while fighting a veteran. Sure, it'd solve the team balance issue, but the skill gap would still remain very high and unwelcoming

sinety 29-Apr-20 08:18 PM

and i cant really see how that would be solved easily tbh

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 08:20 PM

matchmaking is one solution that is being suggested, and it could work

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 08:20 PM

but not must

sinety 29-Apr-20 08:20 PM

the main problem would always be lack of players tbh

is teeworlds able to produce bigger player numbers as a game?

obviously the veterans have stuck to the game and then become way too op for newer players, which then get frustrated or think this game is full of cheaters

and even with matchmaking implemented, is the game itself suddenly more attractive to people?

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 08:23 PM

of course. I kind of wanted to address that while mentioning the "first it needs a playerbase" (and then proceeding to ask how the first bunch of players got into the game first

)

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 08:23 PM

yeah it can

but if developers or mod-creators will make teeworlds better in gameplay side

sinety 29-Apr-20 08:23 PM

i just remember that when teeworlds got released on steam there was an initial influx but i think there werent that many new players that actually stuck

or im remembering wrong

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 08:24 PM

I have been on so many breaks the past few years I don't even know anymore, hence I asked if there was a chart of some sorts of peak players

sinety 29-Apr-20 08:25 PM

though i guess maybe more people would indeed stick if there were more measure to ease people into teeworlds gameplay. not just matchmaking but also official tutorial levels

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 08:47 PM

what are the devs' thoughts on official tutorial levels?

Dune 29-Apr-20 08:50 PM

same thing as with most in Teeworlds: someone's gotta code that

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 08:51 PM

yeah hehehe

thats it Dune (edited)

new idea - new code

new code - no people for coding

no people for coding - no idea

jxsl13 29-Apr-20 09:55 PM

would be cool if someone created a proper tutorial map that explains the basic gameplay mechanics.(default key bindings).

Learath2 29-Apr-20 10:23 PM

The most important part of something like this is to make a nice map for it

doesn't really require too too much support on the coding side

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 10:24 PM

the map would need translations too, unless sign language would be used

Learath2 29-Apr-20 10:25 PM

maybe a new mapitem to prompt popups or message balloons

(which we can localize yeah)

a gerdoe 29-Apr-20 10:29 PM

most tutorial things are on youtube

Assa 29-Apr-20 11:13 PM

secretly adding mario blocks for all the stuff

Stiopa 29-Apr-20 11:16 PM

ahaha

a message balloon prompted by hitting a block from the bototm

Niz 30-Apr-20 01:58 AM

Hello guys

anyone knows a server that has skynet maps?

havent played this game in awhile and back with bunch of friends

cant seem to find one though (edited)

Skayland 30-Apr-20 02:17 AM

why would you even try to ping @ here ...

Trafalgar Law 30-Apr-20 09:55 AM

What is skynet @Niz is it a ddrace map?

a gerdoe 30-Apr-20 09:56 AM

its fng map

as i know

u must look up stich626's server on 0.5

if he hadnt closed it already

heinrich5991 30-Apr-20 10:48 AM

@Niz you can find most maps here: https://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/maps/maps/

ShootXen 30-Apr-20 12:47 PM

as far as I remember skynet was a ddrace map

should be on 0.6 as well

Trafalgar Law 30-Apr-20 12:50 PM

Yea its a ddrace map

a gerdoe 30-Apr-20 12:50 PM

yeah?

Trafalgar Law 30-Apr-20 12:51 PM

yea ddmax

ShootXen 30-Apr-20 12:51 PM

that is the one at heinrichs database

but I guess he means skynetcomp

since that map is way longer

@Niz on 0.6 either look on ddnet -> DDMax maps or TuxFamily (just search for that servername) and check if that is the version you are looking for (edited)

I didn't played ddrace at that time and not sure with the maps but as it seems skynet used to be a bunch of maps that had been merged into one?

Zatline 30-Apr-20 02:30 PM

@Stiopa to your question how tw got players in the first years from my point of view it was mainly due it's solid exposure in a german tv show called Giga Liga Live where it was frequently played on live TV that's how I found the game and many others back then, also since Giga was a german TV channel most people back then were in fact from Germany .. the gaming channel Giga unfortunately was shut down by its owning network Sky and never to be seen again player count for tw kept constant after awhile, people stuck around but as time passed it slowly dropped of.

a gerdoe 30-Apr-20 02:31 PM

i started play tw because my brother played tw

brother learnt about it from his friend

his friend had known tw already

heinrich5991 30-Apr-20 02:33 PM

I learned about it from a website about free lan party games while researching activities to do while the teacher was trying to teach us word/excel/etc.

a gerdoe 30-Apr-20 02:33 PM

hm

i think brothers friend learnt it as you, heinrich

Stiopa 30-Apr-20 03:25 PM

thanks for outlining, @Zatline that explains a ton

Niz 30-Apr-20 04:41 PM

@ShootXen thanks

Its pretty hard finding those old maps nowadays

n000b 01-May-20 09:33 AM

@Niz if you know where to search it isnt

Stiopa 01-May-20 03:55 PM

also, adding onto what was said about the matchmaking, with it maybe other maps than ctf5 would be played

Dune 01-May-20 04:02 PM

if people wanted to play other maps, they would callvote them

ShootXen 01-May-20 04:07 PM

the majority sucks in this game :<

all they can do is to play on 1 map

Stiopa 01-May-20 04:07 PM

possibly... well. sometimes it's hard to attempt to do that when there's one ctf5 server with no votes for other maps

I understand, ctf5 is great, but it's great to have variety as well :v

noby 01-May-20 04:09 PM

i think a lot of the servers that only have one map are doing so because its better than having people constantly callvote for ctf5 whenever theres another map

Dune 01-May-20 04:12 PM

people who play the same thing for years get very resistant to change

noby 01-May-20 04:13 PM

its just my opinion as someone who enjoys playing other maps too but still hosts a main server with only one map

people like ctf5 and maps based on it and often just leave when there are other maps

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i have a backup server with alot more maps but there are way fewer people who play there

Dune 01-May-20 04:15 PM

I echo this feeling

noby 01-May-20 04:15 PM

Stiopa 01-May-20 04:17 PM

maybe, if miraculously there was a sudden influx of players, the older maps would get some love from new blood

Dune 01-May-20 04:20 PM

probably, since there a small % of players that are interested in other maps

I often get ctf_space servers to start

Stiopa 01-May-20 04:28 PM

are there any plans to bring more players into the game? I remember steam release was one, and worked... partially

Assa 01-May-20 04:32 PM

can you think of anything else? updating the game content is the only option i think

Stiopa 01-May-20 04:36 PM

unfortunately, nothing really

however, I do want to spark a conversation that could maybe lead to some ideas

Dune 01-May-20 04:38 PM

gotta build interesting things before trying to interest people

Stiopa 01-May-20 04:39 PM

hmmmphm, fair

Sonix 01-May-20 05:36 PM

An active community brings activity

a gerdoe 01-May-20 05:46 PM

xd

yeah

Sonix 01-May-20 06:00 PM

the more initiatives the better

Zatline 01-May-20 06:33 PM

agree with Dune game need new interesting things before doing campaigns on player base

Zatline 01-May-20 06:42 PM

tw hasn't much changed over the years we don't have slopes, no jump pads, no water/ liquid physics no moving platforms nothing, no exciting new gametypes no new weapons no new powerups the list goes on .. it's sad but all these things require programmers

a gerdoe 01-May-20 07:01 PM

ninslash concept

Zatline 01-May-20 07:55 PM

kinda odd how a tw-based standalone has all these things but tw itself doesn't

Assa 01-May-20 08:03 PM

kinda wonder in how many ways i could break ninslash

ShootXen 01-May-20 08:06 PM

FNG at some point 3-4years ago had a small playerbase(RRT Clan and some other players) that played other maps then openfng5_beat (edited)

a gerdoe 01-May-20 08:07 PM

3-4 years ago was gold time of russian fng

normal players and good online

Капухик 01-May-20 08:18 PM

@Trafalgar Law thanks for update on Multimap

ShootXen 01-May-20 08:19 PM

well depending

lots of russians were using a bot

and accusing each other of using one

zCrew, Heros Tee, Monkey Tee v3o and some GranD leftovers (edited)

fokkonaut 01-May-20 08:30 PM

80 players :D

Dune 01-May-20 08:30 PM

Stiopa 01-May-20 08:30 PM

nice!

fokkonaut 01-May-20 08:31 PM

Its a 0.7 server which also supports 0.6 clients. (I made it so it only accepts DDNet based clients, because they have a token system, and I dont want connections without tokens)

a gerdoe 01-May-20 08:35 PM

@ShootXen i didnt see 10+ russian cheaters at 2014-2016

ShootXen 01-May-20 08:35 PM

O.O

Ougen?

just to name one

a gerdoe 01-May-20 08:35 PM

dinka

that guy used cheats whole time

ShootXen 01-May-20 08:35 PM

I know

said it 2years ago or what it was

none cared

so I dont care about the players who doesn't accept the fact

do we listen on the one that plays the mod active for 7-8years? or the one that is a noname here? (edited)

a gerdoe 01-May-20 08:37 PM

noname?

im playing that game since 2010

ShootXen 01-May-20 08:37 PM

no name -> dinka

in this case

a gerdoe 01-May-20 08:37 PM

uhm

now dinka isnt noname

ShootXen 01-May-20 08:37 PM

when dinka started EU fng

he/she was (edited)

a gerdoe 01-May-20 08:37 PM

ah

i thought about russian playground

ShootXen 01-May-20 08:38 PM

forgot there was a special bot client for russians (edited)

a gerdoe 01-May-20 08:39 PM

special client for 1 player

so

russian fng segment is dying

no new players

old players are going out

ShootXen 01-May-20 08:41 PM

DragN told me he wont play TW anymore (2-3years ago)

noby 01-May-20 08:48 PM

dinka is a bot fag

very very obvious

a gerdoe 01-May-20 08:48 PM

haha

dragn comes sometimes

gctf/fng

noby 01-May-20 09:33 PM

its a faker

his real name is no6 or something

jxsl13 01-May-20 09:33 PM

oof, I know No.6

noby 01-May-20 09:33 PM

he was openly faking DragN for a while

jxsl13 01-May-20 09:34 PM

"know"

noby 01-May-20 09:34 PM

dont remember when but idk a year ago mabye

jxsl13 01-May-20 09:34 PM

an anime that starts good and turns utterly bad, never forget. (edited)

noby 01-May-20 09:35 PM

saywut

its a player name xd

jxsl13 01-May-20 09:35 PM

it's an anime, that's what the nickname is based on.

noby 01-May-20 09:36 PM

o

jxsl13 01-May-20 09:36 PM

I do not suggest watching it, you will be disappointed

be onbgy: looking for first source to watch, starts watching, get's disappointed, never ever wants to talk about it again

1

noby 01-May-20 09:49 PM

lol

jxsl13 01-May-20 10:12 PM

is it the truth, @noby ? (Is the guess on point?) (edited)

2

n000b 01-May-20 10:48 PM

@Zatline on gores we have moving tiles

Assa 02-May-20 12:08 AM

a teeworlds tile update would indeed be cool

i was thinking about one way tiles, too

where you can go for example from left to right, but going left gives you collision

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what do you think?

Deleted User 02-May-20 01:18 AM

i like that!

Zatline 02-May-20 03:11 AM

I too was thinking about that a lot recently @Assa

slidercrank 02-May-20 09:01 AM

players whose gun rotates chaotically, are they pro players or cheaters? how can you explain this behaviour?

Sonix 02-May-20 09:15 AM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5129

[QUESTION] Why do pros often spin their weapons? (Page 1) — Discuss...

[QUESTION] Why do pros often spin their weapons? (Page 1) — Discussions — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

They can be both, usually spinbots do it extremely fast and unnaturaly

slidercrank 02-May-20 09:18 AM

thanks

Assa 02-May-20 10:26 AM

pro tip: don't do it

except you can do it with dyn without getting a headache

if you tryhard you should aways place your crosshair in a way where you expect the next player to pop up on your screen saving you movement time and thus getting a faster reaction

Sonix 02-May-20 10:38 AM

spinning in fact allows faster reactions

Assa 02-May-20 10:57 AM

explain?

Sonix 02-May-20 11:05 AM

you can read the thread, some feel better with it both on movement and aim

spinning allows you faster reaction as you stop the spin at the angle u want to shoot faster because the travel point is shorter

instead of going f.e from 0° (your stable aim position) to 180° (where u want to shoot)

Assa 02-May-20 12:48 PM

i am personally faster with flicking to my target, not spinning

Sonix 02-May-20 12:49 PM

ofc it varies from person to person, everyone has its own method

to me spinning became something that i do unconsciously after 10+ years of playing (edited)

a gerdoe 02-May-20 12:56 PM

max_distance 250 and just chillin'

jxsl13 02-May-20 01:23 PM

aiming is the low mouse sens way of playing. spinning + reacting is the high sens way of playing.

even tho spinning is not really necessary.

a gerdoe 02-May-20 01:43 PM

russian adage: каждый дрочит, как он хочет

Assa 02-May-20 02:02 PM

I am a low mouse sense person

comes from my cs go history

ShootXen 02-May-20 02:17 PM

@heinrich5991 is it possible to DDoS through discord?

Dune 02-May-20 02:17 PM

no

ShootXen 02-May-20 02:17 PM

because on another server I got annoyed by a message (edited)

a gerdoe 02-May-20 02:17 PM

if discord bot can check users ip i think yes

ah no

ahah

Deleted User 02-May-20 02:28 PM

Hi

jxsl13 02-May-20 02:29 PM

izz Robyt3 ^^^^^^^^

maybe

there is a 3 and a t in his nick

2/6 characters match

xD

hello !3oti.

fokkonaut 02-May-20 02:42 PM

And what about his connected accounts? xd

doubt it is roby

pokles 02-May-20 08:23 PM

hello

๖ۣۜMolza 03-May-20 01:24 AM

hello

Zatline 03-May-20 02:27 AM

https://i.gyazo.com/7f7f2b7bfca6f8a70a816960496d0f99.jpg

lel

Skayland 03-May-20 02:35 AM

woot

Assa 03-May-20 02:43 AM

Unitee

/_\ 03-May-20 06:46 AM

Teeworlds64 when

pokles 03-May-20 01:20 PM

nintendo64?

jxsl13 03-May-20 01:47 PM

0.7 supports 64 players.

or do you mean a N64 port of the game :0?

a gerdoe 03-May-20 01:49 PM

yeah hehehe

Stiopa 03-May-20 02:06 PM

teeworlds256 when

I'd play a dm1 with 256 players :p

fokkonaut 03-May-20 02:08 PM

I made a 256 player Server in 0.6, and a 128 player server in 0.7

256 would also be possible in 0.7 but it would be too laggy

But you can play on a 128 server: fokkonaut's playground

currently 71 players online

Stiopa 03-May-20 02:22 PM

how lagg yis 256?

the engine can't handle 256 p?

Deleted User 03-May-20 02:42 PM

You can also make 1000 players without lags, if you find a subtle approach to this

Learath2 03-May-20 02:46 PM

1000 players would require some VERY innovative thinking

at that point even the obvious O(nlogn) algorithms start gettting meh because we'd need so many of them

256 you can probably do with simple chunking of the map and spatial hashing

Dune 03-May-20 03:47 PM

even gameplay wise, it has to be difficult to design something good

and the chat would probably be hell

jxsl13 03-May-20 03:47 PM

1024 2k21

Skayland 03-May-20 04:39 PM

Terworlds MMO, 1000 players, open world, massive map, chat only shows messages from people in the same chunk, in fact you can do it but 1- why? 2- no 3- why? 4- you will find a lot of problems with the engine limits probably

Assa 03-May-20 04:40 PM

sounds like teeworlds adventure to me (which already exists)

you can advance the engine to allow for multiple maps per server (and player)

Skayland 03-May-20 04:52 PM

Like blockworld mod

8-Ball 03-May-20 05:40 PM

hi

is this official teeworl server

heinrich5991 03-May-20 05:41 PM

yes

a gerdoe 03-May-20 05:43 PM

like mmotee

a gerdoe 03-May-20 09:36 PM

why is decoration's size 256x128?

i think we can make it 256x64

or another question

is it necessary?

Sonix 03-May-20 09:40 PM

if u add a sword you'll need that space

as custom decoration

dead50 03-May-20 11:06 PM

is teeworlds down?

i can't access the main page

Sonix 03-May-20 11:07 PM

Think so

dead50 03-May-20 11:07 PM

big rip

can i access 0.75 version somewhere alse? (edited)

Stiopa 03-May-20 11:10 PM

steam, possibly?

dead50 03-May-20 11:10 PM

checked steam, it still on 0.74 there

Stiopa 03-May-20 11:11 PM

really?

dead50 03-May-20 11:11 PM

oh wait nvm it is 0.75

thx

a gerdoe 03-May-20 11:12 PM

xd

a gerdoe 03-May-20 11:46 PM

@Trafalgar Law can you send your server's discord?

Trafalgar Law 04-May-20 12:30 AM

https://discord.gg/DyHxcY

ShootXen 04-May-20 03:33 PM

@Dune will u update gamer with 0.7.6?

Dune 04-May-20 03:33 PM

when it's out, yes

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jxsl13 04-May-20 03:59 PM

I like this mentality.

Stiopa 04-May-20 09:35 PM

release tw gamer 0.7.6 before 0.7.6 is released

a gerdoe 04-May-20 09:35 PM

release 0.8 before 0.7.6

Assa 04-May-20 09:40 PM

release Future before Present

a gerdoe 04-May-20 09:50 PM

release teeworlds before teewars

Stiopa 04-May-20 09:56 PM

the real question tho, 1.0 when?

Assa 04-May-20 09:57 PM

what are you dreaming of? it doesn't end at 0.9, 0.10 will be coming

Stiopa 04-May-20 09:57 PM

I'm asking for a major enough update to constitute 1.0

Assa 04-May-20 09:58 PM

maybe when teeworlds switches to vulcan, adds a REST-Client and Twitch support

Stiopa 04-May-20 09:59 PM

twitch support that makes the viewers of a match be able to vote on what should happen to the players

1. switch gravity 2. infinite jump 3. kill everybody and so on

Assa 04-May-20 10:00 PM

whichever is less likely

Stiopa 04-May-20 10:01 PM

I like doing wild speculations

a gerdoe 04-May-20 10:03 PM

hm

streaming game via server

Stiopa 04-May-20 10:05 PM

or... integrate it into the teeworlds spectator system

that'd actually doesn't sound hard...

but I doubt anyone would prefer it over vanilla.

Deleted User 04-May-20 10:22 PM

what do you think? i want to make something like storyline in tw. This is fully supported by Vanilla Clients. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PGZcMeQLsw&t=2s

Momotee

Teeworlds MRPG - Devlog

In this video, I show a small part of the quest system, passing quests will open dungeon, new zones. There will be a gradual passage from Chapter to Chapter

Sonix 04-May-20 10:24 PM

looks great

nice seeing some of my skins there

Stiopa 04-May-20 10:25 PM

fully supported by Vanilla Clients? sounds grand.

Deleted User 04-May-20 10:29 PM

@Sonix Your skins are very beautiful

. Yeah, it's only using that what vanilla client can provide, but all parts of the gameplay are available including dialogs for vanilla clients (edited)

Assa 04-May-20 10:29 PM

all my feedback sounds mean ._. I don't like the music choice in this video - shouldn't it be more medival? Great work, looks like thounads of hours of coding

a gerdoe 04-May-20 10:30 PM

@Assa you are fucking right xd

Deleted User 04-May-20 10:35 PM

@Assa This is my favorite song XD

Assa 04-May-20 10:36 PM

The song itself is not the problem

you won't play Happy - Pharrell Williams at a funeral

Deleted User 04-May-20 10:44 PM

But that's not the essence, you can song disable on video)

Assa 04-May-20 10:45 PM

A Song is not the essence of a funeral, too) (edited)

Deleted User 04-May-20 10:45 PM

Assa 04-May-20 10:46 PM

?

(Today I am braindead, I did the dished and put them in my fridge)

Sonix 04-May-20 10:49 PM

keep up the great work @Deleted User

Assa 04-May-20 10:54 PM

+1

jxsl13 04-May-20 11:28 PM

holy shiet

is awesome

are those quads?

fokkonaut 04-May-20 11:30 PM

This is obviously a modified client.

jxsl13 04-May-20 11:30 PM

oh, sad

I'd be interested how that would be done without the motd

and without server messages

fokkonaut 04-May-20 11:30 PM

quads, but not everything would be possible

jxsl13 04-May-20 11:31 PM

and maybe without broadcast (edited)

Assa 04-May-20 11:31 PM

It is possible, but I give it a 10/10 for hardness

you can even detect if somebody presses tab (opens scoreboard)

fokkonaut 04-May-20 11:31 PM

it is not possible, just look at the hammer, the health bar etc

Assa 04-May-20 11:32 PM

i mean just the chat bubblew

fokkonaut 04-May-20 11:32 PM

oh. well yes it would be possible, but not with your own name in it etc

and the text coming slowly letter by letter would be insanely much work

but all of this should be possible using teeuniverse map editor

necropotame made it and also used it for infclass, for example for the tee selector at the beginning

jxsl13 04-May-20 11:33 PM

yeah, the tab part is simply flags

a gerdoe 04-May-20 11:33 PM

is it working on 0.7?

jxsl13 04-May-20 11:33 PM

no

a gerdoe 04-May-20 11:34 PM

ah yeah infcroya has no quad based selector

leucovorin 04-May-20 11:35 PM

I love this game

carmine 05-May-20 01:59 PM

hello, nice that now TW development is very active on github (edited)

Stiopa 05-May-20 03:22 PM

I approve of this

Zatline 05-May-20 03:45 PM

there is more than what u see on github

Sonix 05-May-20 04:05 PM

Zatline doing some nice stuff in the shadows

Sonix 05-May-20 05:12 PM

found a neat music menu that i'll use from now on, thanks to worstwish for making it

https://streamable.com/9ampt6

music menu - Streamable

Dune 05-May-20 05:14 PM

we need another music yeah. @Fisico was working on that but that was months ago

Sonix 05-May-20 05:16 PM

this may be too much for a default music

Dune 05-May-20 05:18 PM

yes

Zatline 05-May-20 05:36 PM

Sushi and me had two pretty good songs in our shared folders I think Teetow made em (edited)

Zatline 05-May-20 05:54 PM

found it

Attachment: music_menu-01_r_sonic.mp3 (1.54 MB)

Attachment: music_menu-02_the_lounge.mp3 (1.63 MB)

Assa 05-May-20 06:13 PM

they are both better, if you use them I might turn ingame music on again

Zatline 05-May-20 06:22 PM

I know right have the current one also turned off it's so anoying .. but these two I like too

Iman 05-May-20 11:03 PM

can someone here give me the link to the zcatch 0.7 discord ? in this chat or in my dm

Dune 05-May-20 11:26 PM

@Rilla maybe

Rilla 05-May-20 11:26 PM

zcat.ch

Google

Iman 05-May-20 11:35 PM

thx ! (edited)

Fisico 06-May-20 09:01 AM

@Dune Still thinking about a style, it is hard to find a fitting one tbh. Teetow makes great music, but the tw songs get annoying very fast... and there is no theme or ostinato that stands out.

n000b 06-May-20 09:42 AM

@Assa lol i know some cases were the song happy was player at most important part of the funeral.

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:54 AM

xd

Learath2 06-May-20 01:22 PM

it's hard to come up with music

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:26 PM

whats the coloring system for teeworlds

i cant find out hot to decode the numbers to hsl or rgb

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:33 PM

as i know ddnet uses rgb standart tw uses hsl or some shit here

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:34 PM

...

i need to know how to convert from hsl or rgb or something else mainstream to whatever tw uses

as in the console values

from doing player_whateevr

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:38 PM

ah

i thought about coding

hm

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:39 PM

im trying to get a keybind for changing colors

(rainbow)

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:39 PM

xd

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:39 PM

:)

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:41 PM

u can just choice ur favorite color in skinchanger

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:41 PM

ik

but as i sed i want raiiiiinnnboooow

:)

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:41 PM

and then check out it at the console with player_color_whatever without any arguments

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:41 PM

im thinking 360 colors :)

doing that by hand would be a pain

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:42 PM

so

anyway server will not accept those 360 per second

or per minute

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:42 PM

ik

so its like rly subtle

like every time i jump it changes slightly

all im concerned about is the

uhh

color codes

oo i found some c

which does it

eyah its vec4 to int

fuck

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:44 PM

xd

size_of(int) * H_value

or not

65335 + H

255 + S

0 + L

and split it

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:46 PM

split means?

wait add all those values together

i got -8m or something

but ill try

wait what

wait

what

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:53 PM

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:55 PM

do u mean *

anyway ty

Zatline 06-May-20 08:56 PM

@SollyBunny try this ^^

Attachment: twcolorconvert.rar (1.74 MB)

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:57 PM

literly 100% what i wanted in whole

i love you so much

thank u

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:58 PM

xd

imasuckdickhuh

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:58 PM

ill just be stealing the python part

a gerdoe 06-May-20 08:58 PM

xd

SollyBunny 06-May-20 08:59 PM

oh theyre precompiled

everything is precompiled

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:00 PM

stop

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:00 PM

to make it as hard as possible

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:00 PM

are u have 360 keys?

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:00 PM

i will but ill try first with like 5

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:00 PM

im out

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:00 PM

why

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:14 PM

im getting rly dullish

colors

Learath2 06-May-20 09:29 PM

It's one byte for H, one byte for S, one byte for L

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:29 PM

0-255

Learath2 06-May-20 09:29 PM

The only catch is that L is remapped to always be bright

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:29 PM

im entering 130 255 120

in aim to get cyan

instead i get 129 254 0

(in game)

Learath2 06-May-20 09:32 PM

129 and 254 sound about right with all the rounding issues, the L should never be 0, I wonder if they changed something in the color codes for 0.7

let me take a look

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:32 PM

tysm

im just doing

(65335 * h) + (255 * s) + (1 * l)

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:32 PM

no multiply

+ not * xD

Learath2 06-May-20 09:32 PM

that sounds very wrong

I said 1 byte per component

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:32 PM

using + makes it even wronger

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:33 PM

hm

why

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:33 PM

66096

when i do +

which is grey

Learath2 06-May-20 09:34 PM

Okay with H S L values normalized (e.g. between 0 and 1): 255 * H << 0x10 + 255 * S << 0x8 + 255 * L

But there is a catch, L values are remapped to always be between 0. 5 and 1.0

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:34 PM

soo

do

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:34 PM

yeah multiply

sry^

Learath2 06-May-20 09:34 PM

so it's (L - 0.5) * 2

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:35 PM

okey

@a gerdoe u stopped the epicmusic

mmm still a rly

white cyan

130, 152, 222 in game 130, 255, 120 in code

Learath2 06-May-20 09:39 PM

okay turns out the L is not mapped in that range anymore in 0.7 so you can pack it normally

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:40 PM

so

Learath2 06-May-20 09:41 PM

Packing cyan(180, 100, 50) should get you 0x80FF80 = 8454016

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:41 PM

im confused

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:42 PM

hexcode uhm uhm

Learath2 06-May-20 09:43 PM

1 byte is 2 hex digits H: 180/360 = 0.5 => 255 * 0.5 ~ 128 = 0x80 S: 100/100 = 1 => 255 * 1 = 255 = 0xFF L: 50/100 = 0.5 => 255 * 0.5 ~ 128 = 0x80

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:43 PM

....

Learath2 06-May-20 09:43 PM

So 0x80FF80 which is equal to 8454016

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:44 PM

can i have like a general forumla

cuz i have no idea what ur saying rn

sorry

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:44 PM

here you go

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:44 PM

ohhh

wait

what

okey?

Learath2 06-May-20 09:44 PM

The first step, I normalize the components

Dune 06-May-20 09:45 PM

All you need to change in HSL is the hue I imagine

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:45 PM

(yeah0

what is ~

Learath2 06-May-20 09:45 PM

approximately

255 * 0.5 = 127.5 which is not an integer value

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:45 PM

so join all those 3 then convert to int

okey

thank you

Learath2 06-May-20 09:46 PM

With normalized components the general formula is H * 255 << 0x16 + S * 255 << 0x8 + L * 255

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:46 PM

@Learath2 is c++ doing 128 instead 127?

Learath2 06-May-20 09:46 PM

@a gerdoe idk how we handle the hsl picker

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:46 PM

huh

Learath2 06-May-20 09:47 PM

in ddnet we always round down

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:48 PM

standart round() imo

Learath2 06-May-20 09:49 PM

(I picked 128 because it was trivial to write in hex when doing this by hand) (edited)

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:49 PM

xd

@SollyBunny another song?

SollyBunny 06-May-20 09:52 PM

idk

ur choice

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:54 PM

next "the blyat song"

Learath2 06-May-20 09:54 PM

@a gerdoe the picker in teeworlds gets around the issue by constraining the value to integers between 0-255

so they never have to round

a gerdoe 06-May-20 09:55 PM

my english isnt good sry

Learath2 06-May-20 09:56 PM

ddnet uses normalized floats for the components of the color so we have to decide which way to round while packing the colors into teeworlds format

SollyBunny 06-May-20 10:00 PM

RASSSSPUTTTTTINNNN

sounds like it

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:00 PM

daddy cool

yeah boney m is a legend

Learath2 06-May-20 10:01 PM

I was thinking of getting https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/base/color.h into vanilla this week, just figuring out how to clean up the alpha and maybe some of the constructors

ddnet/ddnet

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - ddnet/ddnet

can also trim the ugly lighten and darken hack since colors are not clamped in 0.7

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:07 PM

0.5 black skins' return? (edited)

Learath2 06-May-20 10:09 PM

oh, hm they still don't look possible but I don't see the colors themselves being messed with, so I'm guessing the display code now clamps the lightness

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:10 PM

i didnt check tw's github at 0.5 times

and i have question

why are black skins deprecated? (edited)

full color control

Learath2 06-May-20 10:11 PM

I actually don't remember, but not only are black skins not possible, lightness below 0.5 is not possible for tees

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:11 PM

yeah

thats too

heinrich5991 06-May-20 10:11 PM

because you cna't see the graphics anymore, I guess

with 0 lightness

Learath2 06-May-20 10:12 PM

I guess

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:12 PM

and? :D (stupid question i guess)

Learath2 06-May-20 10:12 PM

Oh this clamping is instead moved out into the parts that handle displaying the color, and it's everywhere

are you sure this was the best idea?

heinrich5991 06-May-20 10:13 PM

no, that sounds like a bad idea

@a gerdoe black tees weren't pleasing to look at, I think

so they got patched out

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:13 PM

hm no

they was looking good

mythically maybe

Learath2 06-May-20 10:14 PM

Okay it's isolated to the HSL picker and the skin code

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:14 PM

oh those times when one good player joined the game with black skin

on dm1 for example

Learath2 06-May-20 10:15 PM

I guess we'll need to move it out of the HSL code sometime so we can use the picker for the editor aswell

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:15 PM

sniff sniff

smells like new pq on github

@SollyBunny uganda forever*

SollyBunny 06-May-20 10:17 PM

what

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:17 PM

uhm

are you thought that was a part of song?

Dune 06-May-20 10:26 PM

Emotions are drawn in black hence the lightning minimum

SollyBunny 06-May-20 10:27 PM

how do you make

switch commands

as in the argument is x then its y

then its z

i thought u can just enter any amount of values

Learath2 06-May-20 10:29 PM

switch commands? I don't think teeworlds has such a thing

ddnet has toggles, that can toggle a config variable between x and y every time you hit it

that's the closest I can think of a "switch"

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:31 PM

huh

just make another client that will show to you rainbow

but anyway no one will see it

Learath2 06-May-20 10:37 PM

you can make a rainbow in 0.7 too but you'll need to go quite slow

a gerdoe 06-May-20 10:40 PM

yeah

SollyBunny 06-May-20 10:49 PM

ive seen someone

being able to switch between more than 2 colors via a keybind

they said they got it from a freind and shes french and doesnt understand me completely

Dune 06-May-20 11:47 PM

a single keybind? I guess you can use cfg files, but there might be an easier way

maybe

bind key "player_body_color XXXXX; bind key player_body_color YYYYY"

and so on? (edited)

probably easier with separate .cfg files and a exec bind in each

heinrich5991 06-May-20 11:59 PM

can't do it w/o config files

SollyBunny 07-May-20 01:22 AM

if this works then i can automate the creation of it

however i coudnt loop it /:

ill try config files

a gerdoe 07-May-20 01:25 AM

@Dune new programming language TW++ xD

ShootXen 07-May-20 01:43 AM

is there anyway to exclude some gametypes in the serverbrowser? (edited)

I'm annoyed already of DDRace

DDRaceNetwork should have stayed on 0.6

heinrich5991 07-May-20 01:48 AM

good question, I don't htink so

you could try to add a filter that has all known game types

ShootXen 07-May-20 02:04 AM

isn't half of the work already done? just add to the current filter system the exclude option (edited)

instead of filtering for one specific just exclude that one (edited)

heinrich5991 07-May-20 02:08 AM

yes, that'd work

it also sounds good. do you have a github account? perhaps you could create an issue

ShootXen 07-May-20 02:09 AM

Well my next step would have been to ask someone on IRC

heinrich5991 07-May-20 02:10 AM

that works

ShootXen 07-May-20 02:10 AM

not sure if you would do that now

@heinrich5991

noby 07-May-20 02:12 AM

press ctrl shift q to hide ddnet servers

heinrich5991 07-May-20 02:13 AM

no, not doing that rn

@ShootXen

I'm about to go to sleep. hopefully

ShootXen 07-May-20 02:13 AM

k

noby 07-May-20 02:13 AM

it works on all versions of tw actually

1

louis 07-May-20 05:24 AM

whys 0.7 have messed up feet

for tees

Stiopa 07-May-20 10:44 AM

what's "messed up"?

louis 07-May-20 07:15 PM

both feet are 10 pixels too far left

current 0.7 feet:

fixed 0.7 feet (fixed by oblique)

see the difference?

Sonix 07-May-20 07:21 PM

it was not "messed up" it was intended IIRC

louis 07-May-20 07:24 PM

why would they "intend" to make all the tees look like they have a fucking spinal malfunction

it looks like shit

there's no reason to change something that looked great for the past 10 years

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:24 PM

both look like shit xd

louis 07-May-20 07:24 PM

top looks worse

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:25 PM

just change cursor position on second picture and there will be look similar (edited)

louis 07-May-20 07:25 PM

??

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:26 PM

gimme second client xd

louis 07-May-20 07:26 PM

how does changing cursor position change the visual appearance of the feet

Sonix 07-May-20 07:26 PM

to me it looked like the tee was s(h)itting

fixed 0.7 feet (fixed by oblique)

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:27 PM

same

it must be more centred maybe

louis 07-May-20 07:27 PM

it looks centered

and it doesn't look like it's sitting

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:27 PM

-

louis 07-May-20 07:27 PM

how the fuck can a tee sit anyways

it's literally just one head

i think 2nd picturte the left foot can be a little more to the left

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:28 PM

wow

i said same

louis 07-May-20 07:28 PM

but the 1st one looks stupid it shouldn't even physically be able to balance if the feet are like that

no u said both looked like shit which didn't really explain anything

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:28 PM

it must be more centred maybe

louis 07-May-20 07:29 PM

im p sure it is centered

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:29 PM

looks good

louis 07-May-20 07:29 PM

ah its not

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:30 PM

louis 07-May-20 07:30 PM

no that doesn't look good lol

the first only looks okay because its a fat ass tee and you can't really see as big of a difference

second looks bad

why does it lean to the right

it literally makes no sense

also if you look left and walk left it looks sooo stupid

ShootXen 07-May-20 07:31 PM

What kind of size does the tee have on your monitor that it's annoying for you?

who even looks at the animations

louis 07-May-20 07:32 PM

what? it's still visible if you look

Sonix 07-May-20 07:32 PM

well you have the fix so whats the problem?

louis 07-May-20 07:32 PM

if nobody looks at the animations

why'd they change them

lmao

ShootXen 07-May-20 07:32 PM

why change them when you remove it?

louis 07-May-20 07:32 PM

and u cant say the fixed one looks like the tee is "sitting"

look at this shit:

ShootXen 07-May-20 07:32 PM

I do play for gameplay and not style

louis 07-May-20 07:32 PM

what

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:32 PM

right

louis 07-May-20 07:33 PM

yeah, not centered

@ShootXen then just leave this convo if you don't care

Sonix 07-May-20 07:33 PM

lmao

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:33 PM

yeah louis but oblique's solution isnt good too imo

stop

maybe

louis 07-May-20 07:34 PM

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:34 PM

stop stop

twinbops skin righted xdd

louis 07-May-20 07:35 PM

?

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:35 PM

no no

just kidding

louis 07-May-20 07:36 PM

my question is why these 0.7 devs feel the need to change everything that was already fine

heinrich5991 07-May-20 07:36 PM

"these 0.7 devs" are the same devs that brought you 0.6 and earlier

louis 07-May-20 07:36 PM

and please fix the feet

@heinrich5991 well obviously they must've hit their head on something between 0.6 and 0.7

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:37 PM

that's not very cash money of you

heinrich5991 07-May-20 07:37 PM

@louis hey, don't insult people

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:37 PM

there's no point in getting angry over of tee feet (edited)

louis 07-May-20 07:37 PM

its not just tee feet

Sonix 07-May-20 07:37 PM

@louis you have the fix, other people doesn't seem that much bothered

louis 07-May-20 07:37 PM

so its a fix

so

why dont the devs fix it

for the official version

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:37 PM

fix for you I guess

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:38 PM

mAkE iSsUe

louis 07-May-20 07:38 PM

fix for others too

Sonix 07-May-20 07:38 PM

get more people to issue it

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:38 PM

or pq

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:38 PM

make a public poll

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:38 PM

yep

louis 07-May-20 07:38 PM

what

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:38 PM

stёpa right

louis 07-May-20 07:38 PM

its obviously a visual bug

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:38 PM

"do you like old or new tee feet"

louis 07-May-20 07:38 PM

just fix it lmao

Sonix 07-May-20 07:38 PM

right now it looks like you're the only one bothered by it

louis 07-May-20 07:38 PM

nope

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:38 PM

yes

louis 07-May-20 07:38 PM

nope

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:38 PM

1. Yes I like the new feet 2. No I don't like the new feet 3. Wait, feet changed between versions?

1

3

louis 07-May-20 07:38 PM

i'm the only one in this convo cause you guys play 0.7 and are used to it

@Stiopa you realize how much poll bias you get from posting that in this channel

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:39 PM

make on github @louis lol

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:39 PM

I'm not treating that poll seriously xD

louis 07-May-20 07:39 PM

ok

@a gerdoe do what on github

idk code

that much

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:39 PM

make issue

just write "i dont love new feet create another" (edited)

Sonix 07-May-20 07:39 PM

i still dont see anything wrong with them

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:40 PM

xd

like

like mouth

ahahha

so

louis 07-May-20 07:41 PM

when are sound options actually going to come out

like damn

what was even added in 0.7

Sonix 07-May-20 07:41 PM

you are free to keep playing on 0.6 you know?

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:41 PM

teeny tiny feet

louis 07-May-20 07:41 PM

0.7 literally splits the community

cause all the vanilla players and new players come into 0.7 while all the old ones stick to 0.6 since it's better

Assa 07-May-20 07:42 PM

so don't update the game and bring fixes?

louis 07-May-20 07:42 PM

idk why servers aren't compatible either

@Assa what fixes

doesn't seem like anything was added to vanilla either

Assa 07-May-20 07:43 PM

maybe one of that fucking network fixes because people DOS-Attack server

louis 07-May-20 07:43 PM

ok so security fixes

then they could have just fixed those

instead of adding a bunch of new broken shit to make it seem like more of an update (edited)

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:43 PM

ahaha

Assa 07-May-20 07:43 PM

they are protocol breaking, that's the only reason why you need a never game version

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:44 PM

newer*

louis 07-May-20 07:44 PM

idk what that means

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:44 PM

New stats are very cool, race integration hell yeah, more skin customization? sign me up.

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:44 PM

must-have updating = normal

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:44 PM

maybe we will have a gameplay tutorial soon?

louis 07-May-20 07:44 PM

isnt race integration basically what ddnet had like 3 years ago

Assa 07-May-20 07:44 PM

it means if you change your car from benzin to electric, you can't go tank some oil

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:44 PM

small design issues = isnt normal for 0.7.6 imo

louis 07-May-20 07:45 PM

oh

so

0.7 is security fixes

but

with a bunch of other useless stuff

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:45 PM

0.7.5*

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:45 PM

reminder that you are getting pissed off about some tee feet

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:45 PM

devs worked for 0.7 since 2016 iirc

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:46 PM

I feel like I put that in a rude way. xD

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:46 PM

xd

Assa 07-May-20 07:46 PM

the only problem with 0.7 is that people don't upgrade from 0.6

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:46 PM

+

Assa 07-May-20 07:46 PM

which is partially DDNets fault

louis 07-May-20 07:46 PM

lol wut

why should 0.6 modders have to re-code everything

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:48 PM

cuz masters can just get down for 0.6 xDD

Assa 07-May-20 07:48 PM

why didn't they code everything that you just have to pull the new changes?

Don't expect anything from people who are doing stuff FOR FREE

2

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:52 PM

maybe a graphic slider to move tee feet left and right?

a gerdoe 07-May-20 07:52 PM

xd

heinrich5991 07-May-20 07:53 PM

no

1

Sonix 07-May-20 07:53 PM

maybe 20 checkboxes with different sizes

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:53 PM

that's even better!

or

even better idea:

a slider, that moves a gfx interface in which there are checkboxes with different positions

Sonix 07-May-20 07:54 PM

a lootbox with centered feet

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:54 PM

that'd be even grander

gives you a sense of pride and accomplishment

Assa 07-May-20 07:55 PM

cl_foot_size 0

Sonix 07-May-20 07:55 PM

thats too easy @Assa

Assa 07-May-20 07:55 PM

then go programm it

Sonix 07-May-20 07:56 PM

Im okay with mine

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:56 PM

that's the feet I like to see.

Sonix 07-May-20 07:58 PM

wooot inkscape 1.0 update

redix 07-May-20 07:58 PM

Impressive how upset some people can get because of a few pixels. Most people never noticed the change... I would play the game if it was black and white and tees were just circles :D

Sonix 07-May-20 07:59 PM

yeah, and he also had it fixed himself

where the problem then

Stiopa 07-May-20 07:59 PM

I am honestly impressed how that had been noticed

a gerdoe 07-May-20 08:01 PM

same

louis 07-May-20 08:03 PM

yall literally blind

it looks shit

? i'm not that upset cause it looks like that (edited)

i'm mad cause someone felt the need to change it (edited)

and wow yeah i get that you would play teeworlds if it was just a blank screen and you only had sounds as output

but

most people pay attention to graphics

a gerdoe 07-May-20 08:05 PM

if

someone

will take it as shit

he will fucking write here/on github

you are a first person

and okey if you cant fix it

but you HAD FIXED IT ALREADY (edited)

and you want to implement your opinion as main

louis 07-May-20 08:08 PM

no i didnt fix it a friend did

and also

a gerdoe 07-May-20 08:08 PM

also you have fixed version

louis 07-May-20 08:08 PM

yeah it should be main

a gerdoe 07-May-20 08:15 PM

create an issue if you are so graphics-lover

SirioTek 07-May-20 09:21 PM

hey , noob here, i'm trying to set up a tw server on ubuntu but it only works in my lan even if i properly forwarded the ports on my modem

can somone help me? (edited)

SirioTek 07-May-20 09:29 PM

is there anyone familiar with servers on linux

or that could help me?

Dune 07-May-20 09:30 PM

I doubt it's a linux issue though

SirioTek 07-May-20 09:30 PM

i know

heinrich5991 07-May-20 09:31 PM

did someone try to connect from the outside?

via direct IP

SirioTek 07-May-20 09:31 PM

can u try?

i will dm you the ip

does tw use tcp or udp?

heinrich5991 07-May-20 09:32 PM

no, currently ingame

udp

SirioTek 07-May-20 09:33 PM

oh

‍♂️

i thought it used tcp just like mc

thanks

still not showing in the global tab

is it normal?

anyone that can try to log in from another network?

what?

Dune 07-May-20 09:39 PM

that's normal

(iirc)

SirioTek 07-May-20 09:40 PM

ah nice

so no one can try to log in it

a gerdoe 07-May-20 09:43 PM

im reading the book sorry

SirioTek 07-May-20 09:43 PM

btw name is siriotek ubuntu sample dm

tell me if you log in

ok i closed the server

still thanks for the help

n000b 07-May-20 10:51 PM

@Assa why didn't they code everything that you Just have to pull the new changes. They probably never expected a update since there wasnt any activity on vanilla dev stuff for years

SollyBunny 08-May-20 12:28 AM

who want to see

a million discord channels

xxBannanaPeeler69xx 08-May-20 01:13 AM

Hey guys, have you been getting kicked from servers by members of the CCC? (edited)

1

Skayland 08-May-20 05:16 AM

CCC?

Sonix 08-May-20 10:33 AM

Not really

Dune 08-May-20 12:26 PM

@n000b that's difficult to do

heinrich5991 08-May-20 03:03 PM

@Unknown does the server have anything to do with teeworlds?

Choscura 08-May-20 05:28 PM

I have a partial docspec for this avp thing written, sorry other shit has interrupted :P

can anybody recommend good map editing tutorials and or mods to copy features out of? I know about infection + zombie mode

I have a couple of ideas, including one that is essentially a procedurally generated environment thing so 'teeworlds in a minecraft world sideways' sort of deal

like, I think it could be done as a level in vanilla teeworlds

join this server and it's a procedurally generating level thing. it's a thought, I'm not 100% sure, maybe there are some restrictions in how the level is held in memory that would mean it has to be done by some kind of clever gating or something

Dune 08-May-20 05:31 PM

Making mods require programming skills though

Choscura 08-May-20 05:31 PM

I am programmer

Dune 08-May-20 05:31 PM

Ah, okay

Choscura 08-May-20 05:31 PM

no problem, I'll program what I need to

but I'm trying to think clearly about how to do this, type of thing

also this is a side project and other urgent shit can and will backburner it

but TLDR have you ever played the fps franchise 'alien vs predator'

especially the multiplayer?

short version, there's aliens who have a gun and flashlight and a jetpack, there's aliens have perfect vision but it's all one color that climb and have night vision and melee attacks, there's predators with a grappling hook and heat seaking missiles and thermal vision

in teeworlds context, the idea is to make this a sideways version for multiplayer

sort of a zcatch with 3 classes thing

one climbs and has one hit kill melee attack and jumps like 8 blocks (also 90 degree jumps away from whatever surface climbing on) as an 'alien tee', one with a machine gun (fast pistol) and a jetpack as 'the humans', and a "predator" tee that has the normal grappling hook and something like the shotgun shooting out the laser beams, as a basic "copy paste this to that" initial mechanic

so 8 block jump aliens, 6 block jump predators, 4 block jump humans, something like this

also maybe 12/10/8 HP

I'd like to figure out how to do the lighting mechanic thing too, it seems doable

Learath2 08-May-20 05:39 PM

Procedural generation is kinda out of question

Choscura 08-May-20 05:39 PM

well here's my thought on hacking that

there's gateways right?

Learath2 08-May-20 05:40 PM

Nope

Choscura 08-May-20 05:40 PM

portals whatever it's called

Learath2 08-May-20 05:40 PM

Well ddnet has them hacked in

Choscura 08-May-20 05:40 PM

go in x spawn out at y

yeah

ddnet has this

extensively

Learath2 08-May-20 05:40 PM

Yep they dont even predict that bad

Choscura 08-May-20 05:40 PM

so the way to hack this is to have a number of 'prototype places' and have the gates between conditional, and those conditions are the map

Learath2 08-May-20 05:41 PM

Hm so a set of pregenerated map parts the player traverses in a random order?

I guess with enough parts it could feel pretty decent

Choscura 08-May-20 05:42 PM

yeah like you fill out 'what pieces the map generates out of' as 'the level' as a level editor and then it serves up those put together as 'you are in x instance of piece' sort of thing

it's a fucking hack, it may not work, it seems problematic for shooting etc

but it might be doable if those are solvable problems

hell even if you did a 4x4 grid of "here's some empty, obstacle, full, and traversable prototype squares", like a region of gameplay of maybe 20x20 or 40x40 squares at a time type of thing, you could take some kind of a DND dungeon generator mechanic and sort of make sure there are paths through that connect

louis 08-May-20 06:23 PM

couldnt u procedurally generate with multiple maps

if you run a script

but then all the players would have to connect to the same map

Choscura 08-May-20 07:39 PM

yes also doable

or, seems like

Learath2 08-May-20 08:39 PM

problem is that it will never look continuous

it'll be more like stages at best

louis 08-May-20 11:24 PM

yeah

i think the easiest way to make it "look" continuous is with your D&D square mechanic

you could make it looks seamless by teleporting the tee to the same position in the new square as they were in the old square

and just having a large set of possible stages

a gerdoe 09-May-20 12:20 AM

just make multiverse with map generator

mrpg/adventures have multiverse

ninslash have map generator

slinacK 09-May-20 03:42 AM

this is so freaking useful i wonder why it was never suggested https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2611

Add spawn test feature to map editor · Issue #2611 · teeworlds/teew...

Add a feature to the map editor so that you could place a "tee" into the map and then see which spawn the enemy would get depending on the position of the placed tee. This would h...

Sonix 09-May-20 03:26 PM

reporting a tiny bit of spam https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewforum.php?id=4

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Stiopa 09-May-20 03:27 PM

I suppose they are very desperate to get help for their essay @Sonix

heinrich5991 09-May-20 03:39 PM

dealt with

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a gerdoe 09-May-20 10:19 PM

too silent...

Stiopa 09-May-20 10:20 PM

uncomfortably silent...

Assa 09-May-20 11:05 PM

it's just the silence before the storm

Stiopa 09-May-20 11:37 PM

the grand revival?

SollyBunny 10-May-20 01:27 PM

how far can a gun bullet travel?

(and shotgun / grenade would also be useful)

Assa 10-May-20 01:31 PM

gun_liftime = 2.0 seconds

gun_speed = 2200.0 pixels/second

-> 4400 pixels

4400/32 ~ 137 tiles

(assuming no curvature)

SollyBunny 10-May-20 01:33 PM

ty

Assa 10-May-20 01:34 PM

here you can find the values for all weapons

https://github.com/teeworlds/documentation/blob/master/server_tuning.md

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/releases

Contribute to teeworlds/documentation development by creating an account on GitHub.

SollyBunny 10-May-20 01:34 PM

0; tysm

Choscura 10-May-20 07:05 PM

I have another dumb idea for a mod, lol

"teeworlds gym class" thing, basically you respawn for doing x reps of y exercise (as defined by server settings)

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it seems like that + a decent exercise tracking thing, maybe something tied in to a phone app, could be some kind of accountability in tracking for this

a gerdoe 10-May-20 07:24 PM

another clicker as samp's gym

Assa 10-May-20 09:27 PM

do 1337 selfkills

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:08 PM

Did the website die?

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:10 PM

again?..

yeah

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:11 PM

ah dangit

Dune 10-May-20 10:11 PM

it's down yes

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:11 PM

Maitenance?

Dune 10-May-20 10:11 PM

no

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:11 PM

lets it up xd

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:11 PM

xd

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:12 PM

so

masters are working

no worries xd

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:12 PM

wait, the downloads are on github right?

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:12 PM

+

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:12 PM

I wanted to get teeworlds for my new ubuntu machine lol

Dune 10-May-20 10:13 PM

the download links are hosted on github anyway

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:13 PM

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Dune 10-May-20 10:13 PM

^

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:13 PM

yep i already got it trough my search engine

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:13 PM

:)

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:13 PM

thx anyway : D

ah blocker pretty much died out

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:19 PM

xddd

Stiopa 10-May-20 10:19 PM

a lot of stuff died out

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:19 PM

yep

i used to make blocker maps

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:19 PM

64 ppl on fokko's block server

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:19 PM

vers?

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:19 PM

at the day time

0.6/0.7

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:19 PM

k

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:19 PM

he have multiversion server

ChRIstMas`iPro 10-May-20 10:20 PM

hmm

I used to host a teeworlds server on my vps

who knows maybe ill do that again sometime lmao

a gerdoe 10-May-20 10:21 PM

xd

II-NOLAN-II 10-May-20 11:47 PM

Salut

Je suis nouveau et toujours seul

@CloudThis comment on se retrouve xd

Et @Rimso aussi

J en ai louper des chose alors -_-

a gerdoe 10-May-20 11:53 PM

french guy want something uhm

or

II-NOLAN-II 10-May-20 11:54 PM

?????

a gerdoe 10-May-20 11:54 PM

i dont know that language

II-NOLAN-II 10-May-20 11:54 PM

Oh sorry i speak french en i AM new sorry i speak english for thé serveur

a gerdoe 10-May-20 11:55 PM

no worries

just wait for another french guy coming (edited)

Dune 10-May-20 11:57 PM

english only here @II-NOLAN-II

II-NOLAN-II 10-May-20 11:59 PM

Yes sorry

Skayland 11-May-20 01:36 AM

??

im helping another friend to setup a server and its not working

he was trying to open a ddnet server, but it didnt work, to be sure i was gonna send him the teeworlds vanilla files, but i cant even access the website

last time with a different friend we had a similar problem

even if we open the ports correctly its still not gonna register

whats going on

Dune 11-May-20 01:38 AM

@Skayland sometimes the website goes down (edited)

Skayland 11-May-20 01:39 AM

and what about the masters?

Dune 11-May-20 01:39 AM

it's the case tonight

the masters are fine, that's unrelated

you can download Teeworlds directly at https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/releases

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709182953011413082/709190060834291722/unknown.png

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Skayland 11-May-20 01:52 AM

@Dune is this correct? i assume it is

Dune 11-May-20 01:52 AM

if you have set up your server to use port 8111, yes

Skayland 11-May-20 01:52 AM

master not responding, vanilla 0.7.5

Dune 11-May-20 01:53 AM

some master could have an issue, wait a bit

are all of them not responding?

master3 seems okay

Skayland 11-May-20 01:54 AM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709182953011413082/709191677192962049/unknown.png

:D

this friend is called pksol1

Stiopa 11-May-20 01:55 AM

is your server portforwarded right? mine router isn't and I get that constantly

Skayland 11-May-20 01:55 AM

yea the porforwarding is right

its not my server, its a friend's, his name is pksol1

but i had this problem with another friend before

we tried on 0.6 and 0.7

ddnet and vanilla

@Dune sorry to ping you again but as this is an old problem for me im getting desperate

the screenshot above shows all masters and none of them work

Dune 11-May-20 01:57 AM

ah, if it's an old problem it's not related to temporary downtime of the website

Skayland 11-May-20 01:57 AM

i guess

Dune 11-May-20 01:58 AM

could be a number of issues it's hard to guess

Skayland 11-May-20 01:58 AM

one of my friends (first one to try) is from Chile, we tried with different port configurations, restarts, different IPs, and nothing

Dune 11-May-20 01:58 AM

that's not the first time I ~~know~~ hear about this, but I don't know what causes it (edited)

Skayland 11-May-20 01:59 AM

this friend is from Brasil, tried UDP, TCP, BOTH, just in case, and tried 4 different ips, and still nothing, this is becoming weirder and weirder

can anyone, like, check if its related to countries? maybe its because we are from south america and masters dont like our IPs or something?

i dont even know where to ask for help and most people i ask to have no idea what happens

heinrich5991 11-May-20 02:14 AM

have you tried connecting to the server? @Skayland

via IP address

FX ; lmaoOf 11-May-20 03:19 AM

hello everyone

Skayland 11-May-20 04:22 AM

yea

as i said i tried (with both friends/both servers) to connect with different IPs, even restarting the router and it still doesnt work

a gerdoe 11-May-20 05:46 AM

too bad

master3.teeworlds.com is down, right?

so

i thinking there are other masters' naming

like

twmaster3.teecloud.eu instead master3.teeworlds.com

Mr_Anderson 11-May-20 07:43 AM

@a gerdoe master 3 (for 0.6.x / 0.7.x) is up and available (edited)

you can also check the current status at https://status.tw/status/

Status - status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players.

a gerdoe 11-May-20 10:49 AM

so i had checked it already

a gerdoe 11-May-20 11:07 AM

@Mr_Anderson can servers redirect from 'master3.teeworlds.com' to 'twmaster3.teecloud.eu'?

sorry im stupid a lot

Mr_Anderson 11-May-20 11:21 AM

sure, its just a dns thing

Assa 11-May-20 11:23 AM

you could add master3.teeworlds.gerdoe.com if you care enough

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𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-May-20 12:35 PM

teeworlds is for linux ubuntu ? (deb)

@Dune

Learath2 11-May-20 12:36 PM

teeworlds runs on macOS, Linux and Windows

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-May-20 12:36 PM

you didn't answer

Learath2 11-May-20 12:36 PM

Why would Linux not include ubuntu?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-May-20 12:36 PM

it just not work when i click to download

Learath2 11-May-20 12:37 PM

Where are you downloading it from?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-May-20 12:37 PM

from the official site

Learath2 11-May-20 12:38 PM

Are you downloading the correct architecture? x86_64 for 64bit, x86 for 32bit

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-May-20 12:42 PM

i taked the x86 and when i launch it, it says what app should start for teeworlds (sry for bad english)

Learath2 11-May-20 12:49 PM

Is your computer 32bit?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-May-20 12:54 PM

yes

Learath2 11-May-20 12:54 PM

you double click teeworlds and it asks you what to open teeworlds with? I don't get it then and I don't have an ubuntu machine to check it on

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-May-20 12:56 PM

so you can't be able to help... ok

thanks

jxsl13 11-May-20 01:07 PM

a .deb package is an installer, nit the game.

not

Dune 11-May-20 01:07 PM

Teeworlds easily runs on Ubuntu. Try 64 bit

Iman 11-May-20 03:18 PM

Hey im trying to setup a local teeworlds server with rand()'s mod (nheir on github), i try to do it with visual studio but i got this error while compiling :

Error C7555 use of designated initializers requires at least '/std:c++latest' C:\Users\iman\Source\Repos\teeworlds2\out\build\x64-Debug\teeworlds2 C:\Users\iman\Source\Repos\teeworlds2\src\game\server\botengine.cpp 70

` i don't usually use visual studio and cmake so i cant fix it and i googled it but i still cant fix it myself :x

if some1 have any idea on how to fix it

i'm trying to use rand's training bots mod

Dune 11-May-20 03:29 PM

looks like @rand() used more recent C++ versions than Teeworlds generally uses and did not update the cmake files

bam is probably configured properly on his repo then

otherwise, find a way to add C++11 options to cmake files

Iman 11-May-20 03:30 PM

i'll try, thx for help

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:31 PM

set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS "${CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS} /std:c++latest") (edited)

into CMakeLists.txt

Iman 11-May-20 03:31 PM

oke

anywhere in the file ?

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:32 PM

put it to the top of the file

Iman 11-May-20 03:32 PM

oke thanks

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:32 PM

@Dune we should get rid of bam

Dune 11-May-20 03:33 PM

@heinrich5991 we should get rid of cmake

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:33 PM

no, because cmake is ubiquitous and it's kidna ridiculous that we ship our own build system

anything is better than bam in that regard

Dune 11-May-20 03:33 PM

seriously, that was aggressive though

at least we try to work around things, and bam requires near-zero maintenance

the rhetoric when introducing cmake to Teeworlds was very different (edited)

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:35 PM

I mean it's obviously better to have cmake and bam than just bam, I agreee

Dune 11-May-20 03:35 PM

I'm very grateful for your work on CMake, it helped repo managers a bunch and people who are already familiar with CMake

I don't really appreciate the aggressive campaigning though

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:36 PM

the problem I have is that we currently have two build systems and that apparently leads to advice such as

[3:29 PM] Dune: bam is probably configured properly on his repo then

if we only had one build system, we'd be better off in that regard

Dune 11-May-20 03:37 PM

yes, and try to do a grep on git log "fix cmake"

cmake lists all files and requires a fuckton of maintenance, compared to bam

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:37 PM

the only reason you feel that way is because we have two build systems

Dune 11-May-20 03:37 PM

I use cmake at work, the build time is horrendeous, and the custom language is a pain to learn

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:38 PM

people using cmake think that bam requires a fuckton of work

Dune 11-May-20 03:38 PM

when do they need to edit bam?

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:38 PM

when I change the libraries teeworlds links to

I have to replicate the library detection logic across two build systems

it's annoying, especially since bam doesn't provide good primitives to search for libraries

Dune 11-May-20 03:39 PM

what frustrates me the most is that the whole thing feels very hypocritical

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:39 PM

why's that?

Dune 11-May-20 03:39 PM

when cmake was PR'd it was absolutely claimed that it would be side-by-side

then all of a second people that dislike bam remove it from their repositories and ask those that use bam to update their cmake files

the readme was not updated with bam etc.

it's like bam people make efforts and cmake people do the opposite

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:40 PM

"cmake people" vs "bam people" is probably a good way to start a bad discussion

and re:

[3:37 PM] Dune: I use cmake at work, the build time is horrendeous, and the custom language is a pain to learn

Dune 11-May-20 03:41 PM

that's true

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:41 PM

does teeworlds take long to compile using cmake&ninja?

Dune 11-May-20 03:41 PM

I re-did the experiments recently

make takes 3x longer and ninja 2xlonger iirc

redid it, with DDEBUG ON, ninja takes the same time

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:45 PM

yes, same as my experiment

Dune 11-May-20 03:45 PM

hmm, okay

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:45 PM

(that I just did a second ago)

jxsl13 11-May-20 03:49 PM

both build systems suck in different ways.

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:50 PM

that's also not a good way to summarize a discussion, just putting "everything has its disadvantages" out there

Iman 11-May-20 03:51 PM

oke i have an other problem while compiling rand's mod

looks like its way more specific than the other one

jxsl13 11-May-20 03:52 PM

both suck because c++'s build model sucks.

hehe

Dune 11-May-20 03:53 PM

for some reason, build systems are something people care strongly about

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:53 PM

advantages: bam + used it before + lua > cmake script cmake + is not homebrewed, outside people have used it before + supports msvs properly

jxsl13 11-May-20 03:53 PM

people wanna code, not fiddle around with build systems.

Dune 11-May-20 03:54 PM

I would add + cmake is well maintained in package managers + bam does not require listing files

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:55 PM

I think the listing files is only something you notice when you don't compile with cmake by default, i.e. I think it's a downside of having two build systems

jxsl13 11-May-20 03:55 PM

pendawan, cooy your problem t pastebin and send a link in here.

to

copy

Iman 11-May-20 03:56 PM

The following line

Msg.AddString(pCommandInfo->m_pName, IConsole::TEMPCMD_NAME_LENGTH);

triggers the following exception

Unhandled exception thrown: read access violation. pCommandInfo was 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEF.

i don't rlly know what does it means

idk if its an usual issue so i send it here

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:56 PM

that means that there is a programming mistake somewhere

jxsl13 11-May-20 03:56 PM

commandinfo pointer not initialized?

looks like a weird pointer value

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:59 PM

it's -17

jxsl13 11-May-20 03:59 PM

underflow?

heinrich5991 11-May-20 03:59 PM

unusual for pointers

Dune 11-May-20 04:01 PM

probably an offset from a nullptr?

Iman 11-May-20 04:02 PM

well im already trying to contact rand on discord, im gonna wait

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:05 PM

@Dune I think you need to copy bam into the parent folder so you can access it as bam conf=release on windows

Dune 11-May-20 04:05 PM

I'm confused, you need bam in the path anyway, right?

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:06 PM

that's also not said in the readme changes but I don't think you need it in path

it suffices if you specify the path, and on windows, if you don't specify the path, it also searches in your current directory

Dune 11-May-20 04:08 PM

ah, you mean it should be bam\bam

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:08 PM

yes

Dune 11-May-20 04:08 PM

I think I took that from the teeworlds.com doc, should fix

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:08 PM

or do copy bam .. before

not sure I agree that it is beneficial to put into the readme though

for newcomers, the "+ used it before" goes away

Dune 11-May-20 04:10 PM

Honestly, I wrote those changes long ago, and ended up not PR-ing because I thought that would recreate unnecessary friction and that the initial readme was written without intents of pushing bam away

Newcomers will probably try the first sections anyway

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:12 PM

probably. a little complexity is added to the readme due to that, though

Dune 11-May-20 04:13 PM

Yeah, another reason not to do it

Skayland 11-May-20 04:37 PM

Bam>cmake

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:38 PM

@Dune could you replace "fast build times" with maybe "our own build system"?

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:38 PM

bam > cmake

Dune 11-May-20 04:38 PM

True that the assertion doesn't hold with the last attempt

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:39 PM

@a gerdoe @Skayland we're open to new arguments

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:39 PM

(just bam easier than cmake imo)

Skayland 11-May-20 04:39 PM

Yea bam is way easier

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:39 PM

for compiling? for writing the build script?

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:39 PM

both

Skayland 11-May-20 04:40 PM

Actually, its so easy to use i dont even know why CMake is an option now

Bam is like

3 words cmd command

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:40 PM

cmake good in really big projects

Skayland 11-May-20 04:41 PM

Yea

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:41 PM

how do you come to that conclusion?

what project in particular benefits from cmake due to its size?

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:41 PM

xd

Skayland 11-May-20 04:42 PM

Projects with too many files to make a build script like the bam one maybe?

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:42 PM

that sounds like we're drifting into the realm of speculation

Skayland 11-May-20 04:45 PM

An other thing When i first tried to compile 0.7 with cmake i had to watch a houndred tutorials until it worked, but i still have no idea what made it work With bam instead it was intuitive, the first time i compilled tw years ago i didnt even see the forums or anything, its so easy to use Bam, i think its, at least for tw, the best compiller

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:45 PM

@Learath2 right

Skayland 11-May-20 04:46 PM

Maybe im just a cmake noob but thats my opinion

Anyways is good to have more options

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:46 PM

I would guess some of that is affected by what you started with

I found it hard to explain to people trying to compile teeworlds that they need to open the dev console of msvs and navigate somewhere and execute a batch file to get bam

it was easier to tell them to download msvs and clone the repository directly there

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:47 PM

just forking master and checking actions xdd

Skayland 11-May-20 04:47 PM

Oh well, on linux i can just second click in folder -> open console. never had that problem

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:48 PM

on windows too

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:48 PM

no, I don't have that in my context menu on windows

just checked

Skayland 11-May-20 04:48 PM

Yea thought so

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:49 PM

shift + right mouse click

and open in console

Skayland 11-May-20 04:49 PM

I still like bam more One click download 1 second of download time Double-click, its installed now bam/bam/ release Done, so easy, i love it

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:50 PM

or cd allpath

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:50 PM

yes, but that is already harder: "just cd into that directory using the vs console" vs "click on clone this repository"

but I like the shift-click, gotta remember that

Skayland 11-May-20 04:51 PM

Well if windows has the second click console thing too then its even easier than i thought

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:51 PM

that console probably won't work though

you need the vs development console

Skayland 11-May-20 04:52 PM

Why you need vs to compile btw?

Libraries?

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:52 PM

it's a compiler

windows doesn't ship with a compiler

Skayland 11-May-20 04:53 PM

But if just install mingw on win then i dont need vs, right?

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:53 PM

yes

Skayland 11-May-20 04:54 PM

Then why is vs even needed?

Is not vs like 1 or 2gb?

Just download mingw and you re done

a gerdoe 11-May-20 04:54 PM

vs2015

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:54 PM

how much is msys2?

Learath2 11-May-20 04:54 PM

msys2 is similar in size by the time you are done installing all required packages

maybe a tad smaller

Skayland 11-May-20 04:54 PM

Around 100mb

Msys/mingw wiki says 110 (edited)

Learath2 11-May-20 04:55 PM

That's the base of msys2, you'll need mingw, cmake, make

Anyway, I'd suggest everyone use mingw, MSVC is just a struggle

1

redix 11-May-20 04:56 PM

VS libs + clang is also an option

Learath2 11-May-20 04:57 PM

please no

mixing compilers and libs is all fun and games until you break something, then it's like a dozen hours of debugging

redix 11-May-20 04:58 PM

As clang requires the VS libs on windows it's pretty stable

Skayland 11-May-20 04:58 PM

Can we make a cbx file for tw? (edited)

redix 11-May-20 04:58 PM

Even Google uses this setup for Chrome

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:59 PM

@Skayland cbx?

Skayland 11-May-20 04:59 PM

Codeblocks project file

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:59 PM

yes, with cmake

Skayland 11-May-20 04:59 PM

Huh

heinrich5991 11-May-20 04:59 PM

cmake can generate all kinds of IDE projects

redix 11-May-20 05:00 PM

More an more IDEs even have cmake support without generating a project

heinrich5991 11-May-20 05:00 PM

at least msvs and clion have it

Learath2 11-May-20 05:15 PM

Generating an xcode project from cmake is actually quite useful if you want to profile on macOS, the only shortcoming is that the project structure is absolute shit so it's no good for any development

Sonix 11-May-20 05:44 PM

Spam again in the forums

a gerdoe 11-May-20 05:46 PM

spam >> site down >> spam again

heinrich5991 11-May-20 06:03 PM

cleaned

a gerdoe 11-May-20 06:04 PM

thanks

rand() 12-May-20 02:02 PM

looks like @rand() used more recent C++ versions than Teeworlds generally uses and did not update the cmake files

@Dune ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1

m!ki 12-May-20 02:26 PM

can some1 help https://prnt.sc/sfbljl

Screenshot

Captured with Lightshot

im not getting this error on windows

a gerdoe 12-May-20 02:27 PM

never had this type of error

Learath2 12-May-20 02:28 PM

You are probably missing a definition for a virtual function

m!ki 12-May-20 02:29 PM

Windows compile it, but linux not xD

Dune 12-May-20 02:29 PM

@m!ki is this a modification? if yes, can you successfully compile vanilla Teeworlds?

m!ki 12-May-20 02:30 PM

it is modification

Dune 12-May-20 02:30 PM

onto the second question?

m!ki 12-May-20 02:32 PM

success on vanilla

Learath2 12-May-20 02:35 PM

I wonder why you and I get such drastically different build times @Dune

@m!ki it most probably is a missing definition, MSVC can get quite lax by default

Dune 12-May-20 02:37 PM

@Learath2 I do too, especially surprised that make is faster than ninja for you

maybe some core detection fuckery?

Learath2 12-May-20 02:38 PM

ninja beats make for me

slightly though

I tried bam -j 4 bam was using 8 threads I thought maybe it was some scheduling issue, but that didn't change much

Dune 12-May-20 02:39 PM

you're on 4 cores ?

Learath2 12-May-20 02:40 PM

4 physical cores 2 hyperthreads per core

make -j4 and ninja handily outperforms bam on every machine I can get my hands on 

Dune 12-May-20 02:42 PM

especially if you don't specify any options, bam should use debug while make uses release mode

Learath2 12-May-20 02:42 PM

What version of bam are you using btw?

1

Dune 12-May-20 02:42 PM

master

Learath2 12-May-20 02:42 PM

release mode compiles slower then debug to begin with

Dune 12-May-20 02:42 PM

yes

which makes it even more surprising, it's very different from my experiments

Learath2 12-May-20 03:28 PM

@Dune https://gist.github.com/Learath2/d02814920cd3bb1e4c04735a96f2a31f

ComparisonVM

GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

it is possible that gcc vs clang could explain the discrepency maybe? This is on a fresh 2 core VM

ninja still beats bam in either case but clang allows make to beat bam aswell

Dune 12-May-20 03:30 PM

Strange that its compiler dependent

I use gcc indeed

Learath2 12-May-20 03:30 PM

The default compiler is clang on macOS

heinrich5991 12-May-20 03:32 PM

I also use gcc

heinrich5991 12-May-20 03:39 PM

it might also be different compilation settings. I see -fno-exceptions -fstack-protector -fstack-protector-strong for bam and -fstack-protector-strong -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection

-fno-exceptions might have a faster build, I don't know about -fstack-clash-protection and -fcf-protection

a gerdoe 12-May-20 03:58 PM

Will NetEvent's Angle param be used at the near future?

redix 12-May-20 04:27 PM

for me bam is faster than cmake+ninja in release mode on linux in debug ninja is slightly faster on windows ninja is always faster for me

Dune 12-May-20 04:28 PM

that reproduces my experiments on linux

Learath2 12-May-20 04:32 PM

@redix what kind of system? Do you factor in the config time? How many cores do you have?

redix 12-May-20 04:35 PM

Intel i5-8250U @ 1.80 GHz, 4 cores + SMT, config times excluded, arch linux vs win10

Learath2 12-May-20 04:35 PM

Also are we testing the same thing? I run bam config then just bam, compared to cmake .. then ninja

redix 12-May-20 04:36 PM

i'll add my data to the github discussion

Learath2 12-May-20 04:36 PM

My shitty archlinux vm with 2 cores still beats bam with ninja, though not as significantly as the 4core host

Dune 12-May-20 04:37 PM

@Learath2 you should run bam config=release though (and that should give even worse results)

Learath2 12-May-20 04:37 PM

On the host that adds a flat 20s

Didnt test on the vm

Dune 12-May-20 04:37 PM

I don't understand how you get this though. bam uses all cores?

Learath2 12-May-20 04:38 PM

Seems to, it does use the hyperthreads which I thought was an issue, but even if I limit bam to 4 cores it doesnt change anything

Dune 12-May-20 04:45 PM

@redix slowdown on windows might be due to the download script?

redix 12-May-20 05:48 PM

yes, the download causes a small slowdown bam is also copying the data directory at build time. On windows this is really slow =\

when i keep the freetype+sdl files and use bam client; bam server it's still slightly slower than ninja

Dune 12-May-20 06:13 PM

interesting

Iman 12-May-20 06:26 PM

I repost my issue with rand's code here with more details oke i have a problem while compiling rand's mod using the last version of visual studio i asked to rand() and he replied that it was an issue coming from vanilla source code, and an update on this code might be the problem u can find the code here https://github.com/nheir/teeworlds The following line (line 814 in server.cpp)

Msg.AddString(pCommandInfo->m_pName, IConsole::TEMPCMD_NAME_LENGTH);

triggers the following exception

Unhandled exception thrown: read access violation. pCommandInfo was 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEF.

i don't rlly know what does it means, my programmers skills arent good enough P.S. : u need to write

set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS "${CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS} /std:c++latest")

in CMakeLists.txt at the top of the file otherwise u would have an other error while compiling so if u have any concrete tips on how to solve that, im not good enough at programming to solve it by myself

nheir/teeworlds

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to nheir/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Dune 13-May-20 12:03 PM

@CansınGökgül english only, rule 2

CansınGökgül 13-May-20 12:07 PM

@everybody im looking for friends playing middle tier [im not so good) i prefer turkish speaking but can speak english too

a gerdoe 13-May-20 12:26 PM

which mod

shminkie 13-May-20 12:52 PM

this server doesnt have any emojis? :o

a gerdoe 13-May-20 01:00 PM

ye

SollyBunny 13-May-20 01:01 PM

what engine does teeworlds use

to render stuff

jxsl13 13-May-20 01:02 PM

SDL

SollyBunny 13-May-20 01:02 PM

thank u

Learath2 13-May-20 01:34 PM

eeeeeeeh no

sdl is doing the gruntwork, opengl is what's handling the actual rendering

mind 13-May-20 02:43 PM

Since someone posted here something obout the 0.7 feet change i can't unsee it. It looks absolutly stupid and was a totally unnecessary change imo.

jxsl13 13-May-20 02:44 PM

sms verification pls.

Learath2 13-May-20 03:27 PM

What feet change?

a gerdoe 13-May-20 03:29 PM

@louis 's issue

louis 13-May-20 04:37 PM

0.7 has eye changes too

a gerdoe 13-May-20 04:44 PM

this one https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/596678939825537024/708321507754901524/game_retard.png?width=920&height=460 (edited)

Stiopa 13-May-20 04:52 PM

Deleted User 13-May-20 05:33 PM

Hi

CansınGökgül 14-May-20 12:53 AM

which mod

@a gerdoe DDRace

a gerdoe 14-May-20 12:54 AM

oh sry, i dont love ddrace

Deleted User 14-May-20 09:08 AM

@everyone is posible to recover your ddnet password

i forgot it

a gerdoe 14-May-20 09:24 AM

wut

a gerdoe 14-May-20 10:08 AM

typical huh

Deleted User 14-May-20 12:31 PM

Support on forum, full's spam ..

Assa 14-May-20 12:58 PM

this one

>

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/596678939825537024/708321507754901524/game_retard.png?width=920&height=460

@a gerdoe TODO Cage Teeworlds

Stiopa 14-May-20 03:37 PM

why is the filename game_retard?

a gerdoe 14-May-20 03:42 PM

cuz lousi = retard huh

louis 14-May-20 04:26 PM

wrong

a gerdoe 14-May-20 06:52 PM

u are

Dune 14-May-20 06:56 PM

no aggressivity please @a gerdoe

2

Lunie 14-May-20 07:06 PM

hello

louis 14-May-20 07:22 PM

hi

popolup 14-May-20 08:36 PM

helllooooooo

Deleted User 15-May-20 10:16 AM

Does anyone know the owner of 89.163.148.121? I'm getting unwanted traffic. Maybe its just my server but could someone take a look at their own server? thanks.

Learath2 15-May-20 11:36 AM

It's none of the usual suspects crawling teeworlds servers, no traffic from this ip on ddnet servers

the ip is hosting two domains both seem to be registered by the same registrar

jxsl13 15-May-20 12:46 PM

https://status.tw/server/search/

Server search - status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players.

my sever that's running a server status discord bot

to check for players

@Deleted User

Deleted User 15-May-20 12:49 PM

hm? but the requests by status.tw are from ovh if I remember correctly

jxsl13 15-May-20 12:50 PM

I just looked up the IP you said on status.tw

it's my IP

cuz I host tw servers there as well, you might simply do the search as well to find out whether someone hosts teeworlds servers on the same ip for find a contect info

a gerdoe 15-May-20 12:51 PM

xd

Shr1ftyy 15-May-20 01:21 PM

any AUS servers?

@me for reply

or any AUS Players

SollyBunny 15-May-20 01:53 PM

is there anyway to bind multiple keys bind shift-k "say AAAA"

Dune 15-May-20 02:06 PM

@SollyBunny

bind shift+k "say aaaa"

Deleted User 15-May-20 02:57 PM

Hi

𝙅𝙤𝙝𝙭𝙨 15-May-20 04:29 PM

Hi

heinrich5991 15-May-20 04:31 PM

hi

Arseniy Zarche 15-May-20 05:17 PM

hi

Deleted User 15-May-20 05:39 PM

who has a large pack of tilesets for maps?

a gerdoe 15-May-20 05:40 PM

check up ninjed pack on ddnet forum

Arseniy Zarche 15-May-20 05:44 PM

does someone have teewars?

i want to play it

http://jmb.mine.nu/~teetow/teewars/

Deleted User 15-May-20 05:48 PM

@a gerdoe thx

jxsl13 15-May-20 10:43 PM

@Rimso you online?

can I add your server to the zCatch server status tool?

Trafalgar Law 15-May-20 10:49 PM

@jxsl13 send zCatch inv link pls

jxsl13 15-May-20 10:49 PM

http://zcat.ch

Rimso 15-May-20 11:19 PM

hi, Yes sure

jxsl13 15-May-20 11:20 PM

@Rimso can I add your zcatch server to the discord bot to be checked?

for online players?

Rimso 15-May-20 11:20 PM

yup

jxsl13 15-May-20 11:20 PM

k

Deleted User 16-May-20 01:19 PM

Hey pidors

jxsl13 16-May-20 01:21 PM

:ban:

Deleted User 16-May-20 01:23 PM

Ohh

jxsl13 16-May-20 01:55 PM

this is an english only server.

Dune 16-May-20 01:59 PM

english @Deleted User

joshua09 16-May-20 06:54 PM

Hi

a gerdoe 16-May-20 07:04 PM

hue

f. 16-May-20 07:35 PM

louis set in action

a gerdoe 16-May-20 07:36 PM

pslit

split

Teelevision 16-May-20 07:38 PM

oh no, someone uses my pictures without permission D:

a gerdoe 16-May-20 07:38 PM

he can make it himself huh

f. 16-May-20 07:39 PM

you had louis eyes

so its allowed

Teelevision 16-May-20 07:39 PM

xd, nah im the guy that made the screen xd im just kidding lol

a gerdoe 16-May-20 07:39 PM

im too xd

f. 16-May-20 07:39 PM

jxsl13 16-May-20 07:41 PM

F

Skayland 16-May-20 07:43 PM

poor louis

but deserved (edited)

NeXus 17-May-20 01:20 AM

im grateful for this meme (edited)

a gerdoe 17-May-20 09:36 AM

Attachment: 2020-05-17_10-34-19.mkv (5.9 MB)

what the heck

Dune 17-May-20 12:24 PM

@a gerdoe how does this happen?

a gerdoe 17-May-20 01:20 PM

i dont know

it just happened

Dune 17-May-20 01:58 PM

you could report it on github

slinacK 18-May-20 03:44 AM

are there any mods where pickups are randomly generated/placed in a map?

Saturn 18-May-20 06:20 AM

ifcity has randomly placed moneybags and hp specials (edited)

louis 18-May-20 07:00 AM

u could randomly spawn weapons to pick up but i think it requires some code trickery (edited)

Skyrx 18-May-20 11:11 AM

Hello. i have some problems on zcatch server idk why but particles are not showing and when im killing some1 he just disappearing and nothin shows in killing board at top right corner without any effect the same about grenade i tried all 0.7 clients deleted all cfgs nothin changes

Sonix 18-May-20 12:38 PM

Its the same issue @a gerdoe reported I think

It happens only on zcatch servers? @Skyrx

Other mods are fine?

Dune 18-May-20 12:53 PM

Sounds like packets being dropped somehow, maybe a server mod issue

Skyrx 18-May-20 12:57 PM

@Sonix yea, only zcatch servers

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 18-May-20 07:17 PM

can someone help me ? i downloaded the mod of Neox (monster) but when i launch it, an icon appear 0,2 sec and its crashes. is this normal ? (edited)

a gerdoe 18-May-20 07:25 PM

do u have autoexec.cfg?

do u have that maps which appearing in cfg?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 18-May-20 07:39 PM

no

idk where is the config file

xd

@a gerdoe

i just have... this.

a gerdoe 18-May-20 07:52 PM

and you asking why isnt it working...

i think there is better version of that server

just search

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 18-May-20 07:53 PM

but idk why not other files are here

and where could i found it (edited)

a gerdoe 18-May-20 07:54 PM

0.7/0.6 monster?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 18-May-20 07:54 PM

where ?

a gerdoe 18-May-20 07:54 PM

that

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 18-May-20 07:54 PM

?

a gerdoe 18-May-20 07:54 PM

which version do you want guy

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 18-May-20 07:54 PM

0.6

a gerdoe 18-May-20 07:56 PM

took this https://downloads.teeworlds.com/solidfiles.com/75cbeb154b/Monster_sources.rar

take*

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 18-May-20 07:56 PM

thx so much :)

a gerdoe 18-May-20 07:56 PM

and copy that .exe into

https://github.com/teeworldsmods/teeworlds-monster there are monster-hmh sources

teeworldsmods/teeworlds-monster

TeeWorlds mod "Monster" by Neox. Contribute to teeworldsmods/teeworlds-monster development by creating an account on GitHub.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 18-May-20 07:59 PM

ok

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 09:21 AM

hello

how do i set my server to LAN ?

a gerdoe 19-May-20 09:23 AM

just start it

Assa 19-May-20 09:59 AM

sv_register 0 (edited)

you can always access the server with LAN but this way it's LAN only

your client only finds the server if it runs on port 8303 to 8310

a gerdoe 19-May-20 10:02 AM

your client only finds the server if it runs on port 8303 to 8310

didnt know about that

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 10:50 AM

where i could say this message ? sv_register 0 (edited)

@Assa how do i set the client on port 8303 to 8310

and i got this message :

@a gerdoe

what should i do xd

Assa 19-May-20 11:01 AM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 1. you only set the server port, default is 8303 2. Use an online guide 3. This warning means, that you can't connect online, because your firewall is probably blocking it (port forwarding) 4. What kind of server do you want to host lan?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:02 AM

where i find it for 2 ?

3. i wanted that so its ok i think

4. monster

@Assa

what should i do when i have this

Assa 19-May-20 11:04 AM

0.6 monster?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:04 AM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407308363031117834/712228205657849936/unknown.png

this

yes

im in my server, and i do the password what i set but i got this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407308363031117834/712228205657849936/unknown.png

Assa 19-May-20 11:05 AM

Smol guide: 1. Download Monster 2. Unzip ALL Step 3 to End: Follow this guide: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=13384

[GUIDE] Lan gctf Server for mapping (Page 1) — Discussions — Teewor...

[GUIDE] Lan gctf Server for mapping (Page 1) — Discussions — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:06 AM

i just need the rcon

how to set it if i have it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407308363031117834/712228205657849936/unknown.png

Assa 19-May-20 11:06 AM

read the guide.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:07 AM

ok

and how i add the "autoexec.cfg" ?

Assa 19-May-20 11:08 AM

you need to create a file

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:08 AM

ok

where

Assa 19-May-20 11:08 AM

same directory as the server

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:08 AM

look :

this is the config

Assa 19-May-20 11:09 AM

you have a config filre already Serverconfig.cfg

The server automatically searches for autoexec.cfg, so you probably just need to rename it

(There are other ways to do it)

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:11 AM

ok

thx

best

i created the autoexec:

@Assa

will it work ?

Assa 19-May-20 11:14 AM

yes, will start a monster server with dm1

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:14 AM

ah

how to set the map

Assa 19-May-20 11:14 AM

sv_map dm1

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:15 AM

ok

Assa 19-May-20 11:15 AM

before you do it, test it first

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:15 AM

ok

thx so much for helping

ah

it crashes

Assa 19-May-20 11:16 AM

does it just close or really crash?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:17 AM

close

Assa 19-May-20 11:17 AM

did you test it with dm1?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:17 AM

yes

Assa 19-May-20 11:17 AM

still closing?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:17 AM

yes

after 10 sec

got this (edited)

and it closes

Assa 19-May-20 11:18 AM

lol

idk xD

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:19 AM

pffff

i deleted the sv_map

Assa 19-May-20 11:20 AM

try the same with the default server

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:20 AM

and it works

Assa 19-May-20 11:20 AM

hmm, it's a monster thing then <.<

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:22 AM

xdd

rcon works

yeeeeeeeee

but

how to use admin xD (edited)

hmmm

how give points

Assa 19-May-20 11:25 AM

default commands

https://github.com/teeworlds/documentation/blob/master/server_commands.md

[MOD] Monster (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum

Contribute to teeworlds/documentation development by creating an account on GitHub.

if monster has any commands, idk, google it

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:25 AM

ok

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:35 AM

i set this but the votes not work completely (edited)

sv_name HMH-Monster sv_map ktm5 sv_rcon_password "1" sv_port 8303 sv_motd Welcome to HMH's Monster-Server sv_vote_spectate 0 sv_vote_kick 0 sv_wall_costs 2 sv_max_wall_kills 2 sv_wall_damage -1 sv_max_walls -1 add_vote "revive all" set_team_all 0 add_vote "20 points for all" addscoreall 20 //add_vote "100 points for all" addscoreall 100 add_vote "Godmode for one wave" godmode 1 add_vote "Undead on" sv_undead 1 add_vote "Undead off" sv_undead 0 add_vote "set wave to 1" set_wave 1 add_vote "set wave to 10" set_wave 10 add_vote "set wave to 25" set_wave 25 add_vote "set wave to 30" set_wave 30 add_vote "set wave to 50" set_wave 50 add_vote "set wave to 81" set_wave 81 add_vote "set wave to 100" set_wave 100 add_vote "set wave to 200" set_wave 200 add_vote "HMH's Walls" "sv_wall_costs 2; sv_max_wall_kills 2; sv_wall_damage -1; sv_max_walls -1" add_vote "normal Walls" "sv_wall_costs 10; sv_max_wall_kills 10; sv_wall_damage 10; sv_max_walls 2" add_vote -----MAPS----- broadcast vote a map? add_vote ctf5 change_map ctf5 add_vote ktm5 change_map ktm5 add_vote ktm5+ change_map ktm5+ add_vote ktm5+easy change_map ktm5+easy add_vote Monster_Rain change_map Monster_Rain add_vote Monster_World change_map Monster_World (edited)

@Assa

how add score ?

Assa 19-May-20 11:39 AM

I don't get the question

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:40 AM

when i do : addscore it not work

Assa 19-May-20 11:40 AM

there is no way to add score

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:40 AM

rly

how to setup /tele command ?

to tp at cursor

Assa 19-May-20 11:42 AM

if monster has any commands, idk, google it

@Assa

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:43 AM

ah

Neox have discord

?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:57 AM

how to make spreading weapons @Assa

a gerdoe 19-May-20 04:54 PM

lol

1 sec

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10413

[MOD] Monster (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:45 PM

where

how to add bullets

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 19-May-20 11:59 PM

@a gerdoe

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 12:11 AM

@Ryozuki

Ryozuki 20-May-20 12:12 AM

??

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 12:15 AM

sorry

i don't wanted to ping you

i just want to know how to change strenght of hammer, add bullets to weapons

louis 20-May-20 04:00 AM

bruh do u tjink ppl here know monster commands

u gotta just ask the creator of monster or someone who runs servers for it

random ppl here wont know

by pinging ppl ur just annoying them and ur also not gonna get the answers youre looking for

Arseniy Zarche 20-May-20 04:02 AM

what is ppl?

paypal?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 04:06 AM

man

its teeworlds commands x)

louis 20-May-20 04:40 AM

add bullets to weapons is not teeworlds commands

also u could just google the teeworlds server commands to find the full list of these "teeworlds commands" (edited)

ppl = people

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 04:45 AM

i found nothing

a gerdoe 20-May-20 10:06 AM

so...

look up monster h-m-h

jxsl13 20-May-20 11:17 AM

from where do you have this idea of "spreading weapons"? if it's not from any documentation of some server modification, then the answer is: you program it yourself.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 11:49 AM

i just want to know how to modify weapons that's all

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 11:56 AM

What do you want modify ?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 11:56 AM

the speed of the fire

sry for bad english

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 11:56 AM

Use tune_dump

Then search after the speed

Then do tune speed(idk)

I can look when im at home

Dune 20-May-20 03:05 PM

I don't think that's a tune

Arseniy Zarche 20-May-20 03:39 PM

he means fire_delay

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 06:18 PM

what is it

how modify the fire delay of the weapons ?

heinrich5991 20-May-20 06:24 PM

change it in the source code

weapon.firedelay

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 06:29 PM

How could I send one broadcast to all server from my server?

For example I have a server on port 8302 and 8303

And I want that both get the same broadcast

Assa 20-May-20 06:37 PM

you would need a small econ program for that

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 06:38 PM

@heinrich5991 where i could found it ?

heinrich5991 20-May-20 06:39 PM

datasrc/content.py

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 06:39 PM

ok

thx

@heinrich5991 this ? class Weapon_Gun(Struct): def init(self): Struct.init(self, "CDataWeaponspecGun") self.base = Pointer(WeaponSpec, WeaponSpec()) self.curvature = Float(1.25) self.speed = Float(2200) self.lifetime = Float(2.0) (edited)

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 06:40 PM

self.speed = Float(2200)

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 06:40 PM

ok

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 06:40 PM

Thats the speed

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 06:40 PM

and how add bullets ?

heinrich5991 20-May-20 06:44 PM

no

search for firedelay in that file

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 06:58 PM

how do i quit econ if I used telnet in a ssh session?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 06:59 PM

why no

i want to add it

Learath2 20-May-20 07:01 PM

It should have told you the escape char @Trafalgar Law

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 07:01 PM

Well I'm stucked in the console

xD

I'm not coming out

Learath2 20-May-20 07:02 PM

Try ctrl right bracket, I think that's the default

ctrl + ] that is

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 07:02 PM

and i changed the fire delay to 9999, and nothing changed, is that normal ?

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 07:02 PM

Yea i tryed already

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 07:03 PM

self.speed = Float(9999) this (edited)

Learath2 20-May-20 07:04 PM

Well it works for me

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 07:04 PM

https://i.imgur.com/NCoy86d.png https://i.imgur.com/vYLBfYN.png

Am I stupid?

Learath2 20-May-20 07:04 PM

are you literally writing ^]?

When I do ctrl + ] it opens the telnet prompt where I can write quit

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 07:05 PM

ctrl right or left?

Learath2 20-May-20 07:05 PM

I'm using the left one but it shouldn't matter

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 07:05 PM

Well and the ] is 9 (edited)

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 07:05 PM

why self.speed = Float(9999) for the gun not works ? (edited)

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 07:06 PM

I'm not coming out

Learath2 20-May-20 07:06 PM

redix 20-May-20 07:07 PM

try logout

Learath2 20-May-20 07:07 PM

maybe your terminal is eating up the escape sequence

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 07:07 PM

So normally I have to press ctrl and 9

right?

Learath2 20-May-20 07:08 PM

ah you don't have bracket on a key of it's own?

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 07:08 PM

No I dont have it

Learath2 20-May-20 07:08 PM

yeah that is a problem

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 07:08 PM

bruh

Learath2 20-May-20 07:09 PM

I guess you can change the escape character

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 07:09 PM

please help me :/

Learath2 20-May-20 07:10 PM

if you have a delete key you can try telnet -e ^?

ctrl delete should escape

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 what are you trying to do?

changing the firedelay in content.py and recompiling should be working

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 07:19 PM

@Learath2 i am tying to modify the fire speed of the weapons but idk how

i tried to modify in content.py the self.speed = Float(2200) to : self.speed = Float(9999) (edited)

of the gun

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 07:30 PM

and nothing work

fokkonaut 20-May-20 08:07 PM

tune gun speed

Dune 20-May-20 08:09 PM

@Learath2 doesn't typing literally ^] work?

Learath2 20-May-20 08:09 PM

I dont think it does, not quite sure though, he could try

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 08:33 PM

I tryed with ^]

I was not coming out

heinrich5991 20-May-20 08:33 PM

it means ctrl + ]

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 08:40 PM

@fokkonaut this is how the bullets will go

fokkonaut 20-May-20 08:40 PM

tune grenade_fire_delay 0.1 (edited)

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 08:41 PM

not worl

k

fokkonaut 20-May-20 08:41 PM

what do you want

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 08:41 PM

i want to change the fire speed

fokkonaut 20-May-20 08:41 PM

which fire speed

for gun

?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 08:42 PM

every weapons

fokkonaut 20-May-20 08:42 PM

go to CCharacter::FireWeapon and remove the part that checks for m_ReloadTimer

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:10 PM

Hi, anyone ever got this error ?

Dune 20-May-20 09:18 PM

@C3r1se was this on a standard or custom map?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 09:21 PM

@fokkonaut its in which files ?

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:24 PM

@Dune : it's on LightGrey, so custom ddrace map I think ? But the server can be joined by others, and I can see my client trying to download the map (edited)

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 09:34 PM

@C3r1se if you downloaded it already, for example on ddnet and some one changed the map and the name is still the same

heinrich5991 20-May-20 09:34 PM

have you tried connecting again? @C3r1se

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 09:34 PM

You get this prob

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:34 PM

yeah, closing / restarting

I'm trying to locate the map on my pc locally, but I have no idea where they are cached

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 09:34 PM

%appdata%/teeworlds/maps/downloadedmaps

heinrich5991 20-May-20 09:35 PM

@Trafalgar Law if you know how to reproduce it, please make a bug report

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 09:35 PM

go to CCharacter::FireWeapon and remove the part that checks for m_ReloadTimer

where i can find it ?

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:36 PM

wait are you guys the actual dev of the game @heinrich5991 ?

heinrich5991 20-May-20 09:36 PM

oy, the main dev isn't here

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:37 PM

(still trying, thanks @Trafalgar Law ! ^^)

heinrich5991 20-May-20 09:37 PM

there are a couple of developers here, too

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 09:37 PM

@Trafalgar Law if you know how to reproduce it, please make a bug report

@heinrich5991 I cant really say if this the bug, because for me it works that I deleted the maps ^^ But for me it makes no sense because 0.7 and 0.6 has a other file format

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:37 PM

aawww, awesome job, I really enjoy the game, it has one of the best communities ^^

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 09:37 PM

guys pls help :/

heinrich5991 20-May-20 09:38 PM

@Trafalgar Law it should download the map if you have the wrong version

if it doesn't, it's a bug

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 09:38 PM

I will test it later, maybe I can reproduce

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:42 PM

it worked. I had 5 different versions of the map downloaded

thank you @Trafalgar Law !! (:

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 09:43 PM

^^

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:44 PM

do you want me to retrieve the files and send them to you so you can try to reproduce the bug ?

heinrich5991 20-May-20 09:44 PM

if you can reproduce the bug now somehow, yes

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:44 PM

I'll try

I can

do you have a github so I can write an issue ?

Trafalgar Law 20-May-20 09:46 PM

github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds

or smth like that

idk

heinrich5991 20-May-20 09:46 PM

yes, that one: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues

https://youtu.be/UUD9x5u05UI

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 09:47 PM

need help

please

C3r1se 20-May-20 09:49 PM

sorry, I'm not a wizard like heinrich and tTrafalgar :/

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 09:52 PM

xd ok

a gerdoe 20-May-20 10:23 PM

ccharacter::fireweapon() located at character.cpp in teeworlds sources

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 20-May-20 11:28 PM

@a gerdoe where i could find it

finded, what should i do now

jxsl13 20-May-20 11:59 PM

learn programming.

2

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 21-May-20 12:39 AM

please help

Assa 21-May-20 01:35 AM

sudo apt-get install help

Dune 21-May-20 01:42 AM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 there are limits to what you can do without learning programming. at this point it's faster to ask someone to make what you want

Assa 21-May-20 01:43 AM

I accept paypal

(edited)

Choscura 21-May-20 06:44 AM

lol

I accept dogecoin

1

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 21-May-20 02:38 PM

i pay nobody :/

a gerdoe 21-May-20 03:14 PM

new microsoft winget...

yep...

V1nceManXD 21-May-20 11:41 PM

lol

a gerdoe 22-May-20 08:41 AM

huh

jxsl13 22-May-20 01:27 PM

I got lately some weird fps lags in the gamer client..

Deleted User 22-May-20 01:27 PM

hi

jxsl13 22-May-20 01:27 PM

windows

Arseniy Zarche 22-May-20 01:37 PM

hi guys i hope you'll not kick me because of this

Arseniy Zarche

Coffin dance на звуках Teeworlds

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jxsl13 22-May-20 01:41 PM

:sarcasm_ban:

a gerdoe 22-May-20 01:42 PM

xd (edited)

Dune 22-May-20 01:53 PM

@jxsl13 don't think anything in there would cause fps drops, except possibly for the game tiles in some particular situations. do you get low fps or sudden freezes?

@Arseniy Zarche love the animation

Arseniy Zarche 22-May-20 01:54 PM

thanks

30 hours of edit

every tee on green screen xD

even coffin is tee but heinrich helped to make skin bigger

Dune 22-May-20 01:55 PM

oooh, wow

a gerdoe 22-May-20 01:55 PM

@Arseniy Zarche the main rule of a magician is not to reveal secrets of focus (edited)

Arseniy Zarche 22-May-20 01:57 PM

i'm not magician

Dune 22-May-20 01:57 PM

didn't notice the teeworlds sounds at first

Arseniy Zarche 22-May-20 01:57 PM

melody is a pain

:D

a gerdoe 22-May-20 02:00 PM

melody of pain

Deleted User 22-May-20 02:09 PM

hey

i need help

how to make a "clone" of my self in game character

do i need 2 pc for it?

Dune 22-May-20 02:10 PM

you can open the game twice

Deleted User 22-May-20 02:10 PM

okay

but i have on steam because i find it randomly on free to play games in steam

Dune 22-May-20 02:11 PM

ah, in this case you need to locate the executable file in the steam folders, and start it again from there

I'm not sure what's the path for steam binaries on windows

Deleted User 22-May-20 02:12 PM

oh i got it

i downloaded from the net and i have now 2 thanks

Dune 22-May-20 02:12 PM

that works too :)

a gerdoe 22-May-20 02:17 PM

xd

also u can use ddnet client in 0.6

mind 22-May-20 02:28 PM

Hey, i just noticed that the hd background on 0.7 ctf2 has a gap (marked with green box in bottom left corner) with wide resolutions

Dune 22-May-20 02:31 PM

nice catch @mind. cc @Sonix

a gerdoe 22-May-20 02:34 PM

ohoho

mind 22-May-20 02:48 PM

same for 0.6 version ctf2

jxsl13 22-May-20 02:50 PM

I'm getting non fluid fps, even tho I hav elike 1500fpsw

which sucks looking at it, cuz it looks like I'm constantly lagging

Sonix 22-May-20 04:42 PM

@mind thx for reporting

V1nceManXD 22-May-20 08:46 PM

noicce

Dune 22-May-20 09:25 PM

Sounds likd a windows problem if it says a large # fps

V1nceManXD 22-May-20 10:03 PM

lol

Tcional 23-May-20 06:14 PM

hello

I'm having problem with setting up my server

yesterday it worked just fine and I've played on it with a couple of friends and today I get this message in cmd window: "Master server is not responding, switching master" over and over again

im on 0.7.5 win64 version and yesterday won a battle against router forwarding and ports on to get it working (edited)

could someone help me out?

Learath2 23-May-20 06:26 PM

(we really should suppress this master server status spam)

@Tcional which master does it pick?

Tcional 23-May-20 06:29 PM

it switches between 1, 2, 3 and 4 (edited)

and all of them fail to connect

I can't find any information on the google about that issue, that's why I came here with it. If you have a site that tells how to solve this one I would be happy to stop my spam on that topic

Tcional 23-May-20 06:42 PM

yesterday it worked just fine and I've played on it with a couple of friends and today I get this message in cmd window: "Master server is not responding, switching master" over and over again

btw, basic issue is that I don't see the server on the list, nor can I (or anyone) connect to it. I guess this master server thing is the clprit here

heinrich5991 23-May-20 06:42 PM

hm.

no one can connect even via IP address?

that would not be the fault of the master

that the server does not show up in the list is the fault of the master

Tcional 23-May-20 06:43 PM

I've tried and it says "unable to connect"

heinrich5991 23-May-20 06:43 PM

do you host it on your own computer?

Tcional 23-May-20 06:44 PM

yes

heinrich5991 23-May-20 06:44 PM

then you need someone else to test it

a gerdoe 23-May-20 06:44 PM

did you open port(stupid question, ik)

heinrich5991 23-May-20 06:44 PM

you can PM me your IP address if I should test

Tcional 23-May-20 06:44 PM

yesterday everything worked fine, I forwarded the ports on the router, opened the TCP and UDP ports on the PC and played more than a couple of games

heinrich5991 23-May-20 06:45 PM

perhaps your IP address in your home network changed and the router no longer forwards these packets to you, but to some dead IP address?

Tcional 23-May-20 06:45 PM

it's set up so that it doesn't change

heinrich5991 23-May-20 06:45 PM

cannot connect

so the port isn't forwarded correctly

(this part has nothing to do with the master server)

we're talking about a 0.7 server, right?

Tcional 23-May-20 06:46 PM

yeah

could it be that the port forwarding changed even tough the router didn't restart during that time?

heinrich5991 23-May-20 06:47 PM

I don't know your router model, perhaps

Tcional 23-May-20 06:55 PM

-.-

i've got it

i think

need to check

Tcional 23-May-20 07:17 PM

sooo, my router suddenly started to give me new IP, so that was the case

thanks for the insight, guys

it should be alright now and I can connect to it

jxsl13 23-May-20 07:19 PM

well, you get a new IP about every day

gotta share your external IP with your friends every day or give your server a unique name to be found online: https://www.whatismyip.com

API User

What Is My IP? - Shows your real public IP address - IPv4 - IPv6

See your real public IPv4 and IPv6 address. Make sure your VPN or Proxy are masking your IP address details. We provide IP address tools that allow users to perform an Internet Speed Test, IP address lookup, proxy detection, IP Whois Lookup, and more.

Tcional 23-May-20 07:22 PM

my external IP doesn't change

my internal IP on the other hand got changed since yesterday

jxsl13 23-May-20 07:22 PM

lol, weird router

Tcional 23-May-20 07:23 PM

and it didn't use to change it, probably something got screwed during setup or sth

anyway, thanks for the help

heinrich5991 23-May-20 07:33 PM

I wonder why it got marked as not responding…

jxsl13 23-May-20 07:36 PM

router forwarding to incorrect IP internally?

while giving the host computer a new ip, what's weird

Assa 23-May-20 09:36 PM

it may happen in a busy wlan network, that you get another internal ip, because your old one is already occupied

Tcional 23-May-20 09:41 PM

last part of my local IP got changed overnight so ports were not forwarded to me completely and then it gave this message in cmd when trying to launch the server

Tcional 23-May-20 09:53 PM

my old one wasn't occupied because we have a handful of PCs and all of them have internal IP set not to change

slinacK 23-May-20 09:57 PM

you should assign that specific ip to your mac address

Learath2 23-May-20 10:13 PM

If anything on the network is using DHCP you'll need to reserve the static IPs somehow, whether it's by making the DHCP pool smaller or reserving specific addresses for MACs, otherwise DHCP can and will just give out your "static"/chosen IP address to someone else

Assa 24-May-20 12:45 AM

@Tcional the others are right, you need a static ip: you need to google it for your OS and your router

Tcional 24-May-20 12:58 AM

Already did that. As I mentioned above it used to be static, but for some reason no longer was. I have had reserved MACs for every PC in the network other than mine. Thank you for your answers

SollyBunny 24-May-20 05:46 PM

How do I use / run cfg files?

Stiopa 24-May-20 05:47 PM

what do you mean?

you want to open .cfg files?

or to use them in your server?

heinrich5991 24-May-20 05:52 PM

exec a.cfg

SollyBunny 24-May-20 05:58 PM

thank u

Chairn 25-May-20 12:23 AM

@Assa is there a way to have more than 8 players on catch64? sv_player_slots stays at 8 even if i put it in autoexec.cfg

nvm, found sv_max_clients

Chairn 25-May-20 12:56 AM

is there any 0.6 version out there?

for catch64 mod

Stiopa 25-May-20 03:33 PM

Not sure if it's a bug or not.. but

Issue: Teeworlds respawning all tees in one spot ocassionaly. Gamemode: LTS Map: lts1 Description: The respawns in the gamemode is seemingly random, which sometime put all 3 tees in one spot, while there are other spawn points free. Server: SteamLUG [EU] IP Address: 5.189.189.42:8303

Dune 25-May-20 03:33 PM

I think we randomized survival respawns recently, didn't we? @Sonix

Stiopa 25-May-20 03:33 PM

should provide version,

0.7.4

could be it

Dune 25-May-20 03:34 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2182

Randomize spawns in survival by Dune-jr · Pull Request #2182 · teew...

Closes #2138 Spawns are picked at random in survival gametypes. (still favoring your own team) Tested on LMS/lms1 and LTS/lms1

looks like someone butchered the work ;)

@Stiopa this is a 0.7.4 feature indeed: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=13358

0.7.4 released! (Page 1) — News — Teeworlds Forum

0.7.4 released! (Page 1) — News — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

randomizing survival spawns in on purpose, but it would be better if they didn't spawn all at the same place indeed. thoughts @Sonix ?

thanks for the report @Stiopa

Stiopa 25-May-20 03:37 PM

np

thanks for the continuous support of the game

oh. crap.

correction.

I meant Last Man Standing. craaap

I hope it's still not intended

@Dune

Dune 25-May-20 03:40 PM

what do you mean by intended @Stiopa ?

Stiopa 25-May-20 03:40 PM

all tees spawning in one place not being intended for LMS. I wrote LTS by accident

Dune 25-May-20 03:41 PM

oh that's in LMS too? that's even worse

Stiopa 25-May-20 03:41 PM

yeah. Idk if it is in LTS. I'm playing LMS

Stiopa 25-May-20 04:04 PM

2 players

one server, lms1

Assa 25-May-20 04:18 PM

for catch64 mod

@Chairn catch64 supports 64 players and is 0.7 only, the color-change works a bit different, because the skin system changed. The Mod was not my idea and ran under the name catch16 in 0.6 and supports up to 16 players

Stiopa 25-May-20 04:19 PM

so... catch256 for 0.8?

I mean, it is only natural it's quadrupled again... xD

Assa 25-May-20 04:20 PM

ofc, since the catch64 servers are always full and we need to be able to put more players in them

Stiopa 25-May-20 04:21 PM

oh. it's definitely problematic. especially when the only sizeable lobby is a private game that kicks you instantly xD

Assa 25-May-20 04:22 PM

which would definitely change by increasing the player number (edited)

Stiopa 25-May-20 04:22 PM

obviously

Souly 25-May-20 04:25 PM

catch128

Sonix 25-May-20 04:38 PM

They should be random and never in the same spawn together @Dune yeah

Dune 25-May-20 04:39 PM

yeah read the proposed solution in the issue

Sonix 25-May-20 04:39 PM

Should check map spawns too forgot how many are there

Ravie 25-May-20 05:30 PM

just noticed that eyes on kitties are incorrect in the new version

Sonix 25-May-20 05:40 PM

Didnt that get fixed too? @Dune (edited)

Dune 25-May-20 05:40 PM

I don't remember

Sonix 25-May-20 05:40 PM

That they would be darker only in teams

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2325

Adjust eye colour when it is too close to body colour by LordSk · P...

#2323 For now it forces black eyes for team skins, and adjust eye colour otherwise. Some results: Menu preview:

Ravie 25-May-20 05:46 PM

also the eyes on either preview are different

Sonix 25-May-20 05:48 PM

That’s how they appear in game

The one above

Ravie 25-May-20 05:48 PM

yeah but shouldn't they both show how it will appear in game

this is just a bit confusing, and if you adjust the ones in game then it might look stupid in the skin browser

Sonix 25-May-20 05:49 PM

If it’s too close to the skin color it will auto change

That’s what this fix does https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2325

Adjust eye colour when it is too close to body colour by LordSk · P...

#2323 For now it forces black eyes for team skins, and adjust eye colour otherwise. Some results: Menu preview:

Ravie 25-May-20 05:49 PM

tell that to this guy

1

Sonix 25-May-20 05:50 PM

Didnt that get fixed too lol

Are u on 0.7.4?

Ravie 25-May-20 05:51 PM

Skayland 25-May-20 05:55 PM

Why eye color adjustement is needed anyways? :p

Ravie 25-May-20 05:55 PM

because it's cool

Skayland 25-May-20 05:56 PM

Its not

If there is no other reason than that then disable it lol

Why not let players choose the eye color they want?

Learath2 25-May-20 06:02 PM

We should let players change each eye separately, I want one eye red to be edgy

Skayland 25-May-20 06:02 PM

Now, that sounds cool

Learath2 25-May-20 06:02 PM

Or one eye blue so I can be sans

Ravie 25-May-20 06:02 PM

it's already possible you just need eyes where one is black and other white

Learath2 25-May-20 06:03 PM

\o

Ravie 25-May-20 06:03 PM

they can even swap when your tee is angry

Learath2 25-May-20 06:03 PM

Sonix 25-May-20 06:06 PM

the kitties the json files didnt get updated thats all

wiht the colorable eyes

LordSk 25-May-20 06:15 PM

Yeah the adjust color eye thingy is not perfect but it works for the most part

Dune 25-May-20 06:15 PM

@Skayland because if the eyes are the same color as the body, you can't see them,

Ravie 25-May-20 06:18 PM

it would just be nice if it showed the real preview in the skin maker/browser as well

Skayland 25-May-20 06:25 PM

@Dune and what happens if you cant see the eyes?

Dune 25-May-20 06:25 PM

the algorithm should ensure that you do

Skayland 25-May-20 06:25 PM

Why?

Dune 25-May-20 06:25 PM

if you can't, it looks odd, and you can't really tell where the tee is looking etc. kinda breaks it

Skayland 25-May-20 06:25 PM

How? :D

How does eye color break something?

Dune 25-May-20 06:26 PM

it looks odd, and you can't really tell where the tee is looking

Skayland 25-May-20 06:26 PM

That wont break anything

Dune 25-May-20 06:27 PM

basically it makes the eyes invisible

Skayland 25-May-20 06:27 PM

Isnt like thats something new

Dune 25-May-20 06:27 PM

that was a popular abuse back in 0.5, it's not really new

Stiopa 25-May-20 06:27 PM

how can I know if someone wants to shoot me

if I can't see where they are looking

Skayland 25-May-20 06:27 PM

Look at his weapon

Dune 25-May-20 06:28 PM

hammer

anyway it looks odd

Skayland 25-May-20 06:28 PM

Look at the hammer

Dune 25-May-20 06:28 PM

hammer only has two directions afaik

Skayland 25-May-20 06:28 PM

Hammer is only used in close fight, you dont need more directions

This makes no sense

Stiopa 25-May-20 06:29 PM

I need more directions

I need all the directions

Skayland 25-May-20 06:29 PM

No you dont

Ravie 25-May-20 06:29 PM

he might switch to hammer and try to hook you

Skayland 25-May-20 06:29 PM

If he has hammer then the hook leads to a close fight again

Not worth it

Ravie 25-May-20 06:33 PM

it still gives you some tiny advantage and costs nothing to use

and besides it looks buggy

Hellclaw2099 25-May-20 06:52 PM

need help setting up a server in tcs guys

*tsc

1

no idea what to do

louis 25-May-20 07:53 PM

wtf why would u want invisible eyes

it looks STUPID

Assa 25-May-20 08:15 PM

need help setting up a server in tcs guys

@Hellclaw2099 what are you even talking about, doesn't sound like tableau server client

Zatline 25-May-20 09:05 PM

invisible eyes look stupid and I don't know either why someone would want to have them but I've seen people that managed to have eyes invisible / same color as the body even with the algorithm

Ravie 25-May-20 09:08 PM

it's really not difficult, just give the eyes the same color as the body and play with the lightness slider

and maybe adjust saturation too but there's no need on a gray body

a gerdoe 25-May-20 09:55 PM

that thing is very coop when u playing solo instagib/fng/vanilla mods

Hellclaw2099 26-May-20 11:11 AM

@Assa Its called TEEWORLDS SERVER CREATOR....

Or just tell me some way to host a server

'cause i have no clue

a gerdoe 26-May-20 11:27 AM

download teeworlds

config your server

set sv_register 1

configure your ports

launch server

enjoy

Assa 26-May-20 01:44 PM

??? profit!

Stiopa 26-May-20 02:19 PM

also;

issue solved (edited)

Dune 26-May-20 02:46 PM

Possibly wrong map version?

Stiopa 26-May-20 02:48 PM

issue solved (edited)

Dune 26-May-20 03:02 PM

Game setttings won't do anything

@Sonix do you know something?

Stiopa 26-May-20 03:06 PM

issue solved (edited)

Dune 26-May-20 03:21 PM

@Stiopa most likely an issue with the map hosted on that server

Stiopa 26-May-20 03:26 PM

issue solved (edited)

Stiopa 26-May-20 04:36 PM

nevermind. Found the issue. nothing on game's part!

entirely my fault.

cleared up the chat so as not to cause confusion

(it was a console command)

Dune 26-May-20 05:14 PM

huuuh, how does a console command glitch a map? that sounds like a bug

Stiopa 26-May-20 05:24 PM

gfx_noclip @Dune (edited)

removed the clipping

which caused the group to go off bounds

Dune 26-May-20 05:29 PM

aah

heinrich5991 26-May-20 05:30 PM

ehm

maybe we want to remove that option? ^^

sounds very non-intuitive

Stiopa 26-May-20 05:31 PM

well. it is my fault for not reading the description it gave me and then being puzzled by that stuff :p

heinrich5991 26-May-20 05:32 PM

I don't see a purpose of the option, I'll git blame it

I'd guess copy refactor to trunk

apparently not: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/commit/47e50c5f2054724a9533c3bac7d6b48677974d9c

Stiopa 26-May-20 05:41 PM

welp

Learath2 26-May-20 06:08 PM

It could maybe help while mapping?

I wanted to disable ui clipping very badly trying to debug dynamic resolution

Ravie 26-May-20 06:32 PM

it seems to not work in the map editor, only in-game

so it seems more or less useless to me from a mapping point

Stiopa 26-May-20 07:23 PM

fokkonaut's playground [99/128] @fokkonaut what is the record? 101?

Hellclaw2099 26-May-20 07:37 PM

ANY BATTLE ROYALE SERVER AVAILABLE?

Iman 26-May-20 07:38 PM

zcatch is a br... kinda

fokkonaut 26-May-20 07:43 PM

@Stiopa i think 104

Stiopa 26-May-20 07:57 PM

you might be beating it soon I guess

:p

fokkonaut 26-May-20 08:31 PM

would be cool :)

LPTP1 26-May-20 08:39 PM

What about an rich presence for discord?

3

SirioTek 26-May-20 08:45 PM

it would be cool

Stiopa 26-May-20 08:53 PM

I support

the motion

LPTP1 26-May-20 08:54 PM

Support with

fokkonaut 26-May-20 09:52 PM

@Stiopa its 106 currently

Stiopa 26-May-20 09:53 PM

nice!

Stiopa 26-May-20 11:53 PM

the Race handling (tee entering start, checkpoint, finish) is server sided, time tracked is server sided, right?

(like, are there any client side functions that are fired at start and finish?)

Dune 27-May-20 12:07 AM

@Stiopa use OnMessage. Example: https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/commit/f0814463a9235a9d0dec62d3209e2a80cc623aa7

Stiopa 27-May-20 12:13 AM

okay

MarisaG 27-May-20 09:02 AM

Anyone looking for a free shared server, I have some Ubuntu servers I can share. PM me if you want more info...

HalfNoob 27-May-20 07:43 PM

Are there any apps for converting .png file skins into .json file skins?

Dune 27-May-20 07:46 PM

@HalfNoob no, because the process is not trivial: you need to split the parts of the png into several png images (the json itself is trivial to make)

HalfNoob 27-May-20 07:49 PM

Then how do some players have custom skins from .6 teeworlds in .7?

Dune 27-May-20 07:51 PM

they go through that process

there is https://github.com/android272/skinMe-script-for-Teeworlds/blob/master/skinMe that works-ish for a lot of 0.6 skins

android272/skinMe-script-for-Teeworlds

A script that takes old TW 0.6 skins and converts them into TW 0.7 skins. - android272/skinMe-script-for-Teeworlds

this will not split the decorations but I guess that's fine

HalfNoob 27-May-20 07:54 PM

Thx @Dune

Stiopa 28-May-20 12:26 PM

while scrolling through the community hub on teeworlds I noticed a guide about binds. which lead to me coming up with an idea of dedicated gui space for making binds. Like:

<pick key> (+ more keys if wanted) <command> <arguments> (other commands + arguments?)

and maybe also a key to load/unload certain binds? (shift+c loading and unloading competetive binds, like, "bring back flag", "mid", "bottom")

shift+d loading ddrace-styled binds like say /spec etc (of course both of the binds would be made by player)

just spouting ideas

of course current system isn't bad. It's rather simple to do, but the proposed would be more userfriendly and could be localized I suppose

the userfriendliness can also be a con, allowing for newer players (potentially trolls) to learn how to easily make a bind for spamming the chat.

Learath2 28-May-20 12:30 PM

the load unload you can implement with exec

A generic bind editor, could be discussed, you should create an issue for it so that we can discuss

Stiopa 28-May-20 12:32 PM

well, I wanted to hear some first hand feedback on the topic of it being something that has real chances of implementation

Stiopa 28-May-20 12:55 PM

opened an issue

Souly 28-May-20 04:37 PM

autoexec for specific gamemodes would be cool

Ravie 28-May-20 05:27 PM

@Souly you can have .bat files to run the server with different configs

CindyLaÑoqui 28-May-20 05:51 PM

Who wants to play Teeworlds multimap?

Dune 28-May-20 05:52 PM

probably 60 people

CindyLaÑoqui 28-May-20 06:12 PM

bruh, this chat is so fricking dead

Nobody is talking

Learath2 28-May-20 06:15 PM

Most people don't just randomly talk

CindyLaÑoqui 28-May-20 06:34 PM

oh

a gerdoe 28-May-20 06:48 PM

hm

idea about multi configuration usage sounds cool

Souly 28-May-20 10:34 PM

@Ravie i mean client auto exec, so you change settings depending on what gamemode you are playing

MarisaG 29-May-20 11:23 AM

Updated my Linux server operator tools to work as a regular user and not requiring root access. Get it here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/teeworlds-utility-suite/

Teeworlds Utility Suite

Download Teeworlds Utility Suite for free. Suite of utilities to make running a Linux Teeworlds server easier. Suite of utilities to make running a Linux Teeworlds server easier. Tested with Ubuntu 16.04 but should work on other distros.

Learath2 29-May-20 11:39 AM

Interesting idea

MarisaG 29-May-20 01:08 PM

Thanks

MarisaG 30-May-20 01:22 AM

I didnt have any issue running as root when I was the only user and didnt use the server for anything else,

MarisaG 30-May-20 08:50 AM

I have some servers in a datacenter that are not using their full potential and I would like to offer them for use as Teeworlds servers for someone who wants a server of their own. With my servers you will get the best performance and reliability compared to a server in your home, and lots more bandwidth than you are likely to ever use

The difference between this and my commercial servers is that these free server will also be used for hosting a BBS or MUD for another user. If you are interested just go to https://TeeWorldFans.GamePlayer.club/HostSplash and choose the default plan and use "offline" payment method so you don't have to pay. I will get back to you shortly with your server info. Here's to Teeworlds fans!

jxsl13 30-May-20 02:47 PM

@Dune could you add a feature to the gamer client that it's possible to show the scoreboard in the demo viewer while scrolling the timeline?

Dune 30-May-20 02:48 PM

I'm too busy nowadays

jxsl13 30-May-20 02:48 PM

ok

want to scroll forward when a person joins, kinda laborious currently. well.

jxsl13 30-May-20 03:12 PM

when changing the timestamp the focus of the previously selected player is lost.

there is no proper free view.

rip

general vanilla problems, I guess

a gerdoe 30-May-20 07:43 PM

can MarisaG install masterserver in his dc?

Deleted User 30-May-20 07:53 PM

hi

Deleted User 30-May-20 08:03 PM

i need help

i want to know how to use "save" on different maps

so how i save my position and how i tp back to my last position?

cause i want to play easier with my friend we are noobs :c

! FoXi Tee 30-May-20 09:01 PM

Hello

jxsl13 30-May-20 09:15 PM

hey

Trafalgar Law 30-May-20 09:18 PM

oh

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 09:28 PM

hi i have a problem can anyone help me . my problem is i open my ddnet to play and i lose all my data and my friend list and my name like a new player and my setting anyone know how i fix it ? i need know my mouse sens i dont remember it

Stiopa 30-May-20 09:30 PM

ddnet probably saves their data in different way

I don't use DDNet so I can't really help you

try to go back to 0.7 and check your data before changing

(write it down in notepad or something)

Ravie 30-May-20 09:33 PM

if you don't have a backup of your settings_ddnet.cfg then it's probably lost

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 09:33 PM

ok i only need get my mouse sens again

and other things i can do it

Ravie 30-May-20 09:34 PM

if your settings file got overwritten and you don't have a backup then you can't get it back

unless there's some advanced way I don't know about

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 09:35 PM

where i can find this file

?

Ravie 30-May-20 09:35 PM

in your appdata/Teeworlds folder

a gerdoe 30-May-20 09:35 PM

@Boti.#9706 /save 1234 then /load 1234 with your previous nickname

bruh he left

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 09:35 PM

now?

Stiopa 30-May-20 09:37 PM

settings07 should have your vanilla stuff ddnet-info probably has your info from ddnet versions (edited)

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 09:38 PM

you mean i cant get it back?

Ravie 30-May-20 09:40 PM

if you have the same mousesens in other clients then you can grab it from those .cfg files

Dune 30-May-20 09:43 PM

@Trafalgar Law rule 3

@AbdoZX17 copy paste the .cfg

vanilla -> mods

Stiopa 30-May-20 09:45 PM

Can the "Game will start in 3,2,1" be modified? (edited)

I can't count the times when I've been waiting for the last person to ready up and didn't notice the counter

changing it to be colored for example would make it more noticeable

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 09:51 PM

where i paste it?

Stiopa 30-May-20 09:53 PM

settings_ddnet.cfg I believe.

considering you're moving your data from settings_07.cfg -> settings_ddnet.cfg

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 10:03 PM

how?

i dont need to restore all my data i only need restore my mouse sens i cant play without it

Stiopa 30-May-20 10:06 PM

you used 0.7 prior right?

go to settings_07.cfg

open it with text editor of your choice

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 10:06 PM

no i use ddnet 0.6

Stiopa 30-May-20 10:07 PM

okay. so I assume everytime you open DDNet you lose all of your data?

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 10:07 PM

and 0.7 too but i lose my data in ddney

ddney

t

Stiopa 30-May-20 10:08 PM

do you have your mouse sens in 0.7?

a gerdoe 30-May-20 10:09 PM

wtf xD

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 10:09 PM

yeah but i think it different

Ravie 30-May-20 10:10 PM

did you have the same one in any of the other clients? (f client, zilly)

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 10:10 PM

i will see

i think i get it

a gerdoe 30-May-20 10:15 PM

uh oh

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 10:16 PM

i get my sens not my data

Dune 30-May-20 10:16 PM

what is "data"

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 10:17 PM

all my things in the game my setting and my friend list and my name all things

a gerdoe 30-May-20 10:17 PM

tada in spanish xd

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 10:17 PM

XD

AbdoZX17 30-May-20 10:48 PM

anyone have a good mouse sens for 800 DPI?

Stiopa 31-May-20 12:28 AM

depends on what gamemode you play, really

Stiopa 31-May-20 01:04 AM

Ravie testing something on passworded "Hut"

I see

on "whatareyoudoin" map :p

(not stalking, just noticed while looking through the servers)

Zatline 31-May-20 01:05 AM

I'm sure he's testing some secret stuff :p

Stiopa 31-May-20 01:06 AM

I need to know ALL the secrets

Skayland 31-May-20 05:27 AM

no

ChRIstMas`iPro 31-May-20 11:49 AM

we need more blmaps

sadly i am a shit mapper

a gerdoe 31-May-20 12:23 PM

we need no blmaps

Stiopa 31-May-20 12:34 PM

we need dm4-6 edit: it's actually dm4-5 (edited)

Dune 31-May-20 12:40 PM

Don't we already have 6 dm maps?

Stiopa 31-May-20 01:11 PM

I think seven

4-5 is blank

Deleted User 31-May-20 08:50 PM

does the game ever use sfx_hit_strong

Dune 31-May-20 08:51 PM

don't think so

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:19 PM

Hey

Why the infc map don't work on 0.7.4?

@Dune

Dune 31-May-20 09:20 PM

The hell do I know

Stiopa 31-May-20 09:26 PM

what are you running the map on?

@! FoXi Tee

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:30 PM

what are you running the map on?

@Stiopa

i don't have the 0.7.5 version

a gerdoe 31-May-20 09:31 PM

what

download infcroya and run that map on...

Stiopa 31-May-20 09:31 PM

are you trying to run a infection, infection class or infectioncroya map on what gametype server?

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:34 PM

???

@Stiopa Ping me if u want to tell me something

a gerdoe 31-May-20 09:35 PM

so answer is?..

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:36 PM

are you trying to run a infection, infection class or infectioncroya map on what gametype server?

@Stiopa I don't understand what i have to answer

Stiopa 31-May-20 09:38 PM

I am assuming your map has been run on a server before. From what I know, there are 3 main infection gametypes, the original 0.6 infection, later 0.6 infectionclass and the 0.7 infectioncroya

a 0.6 infection map might not work on 0.7 infectioncroya for example due to version disparities. (or might, who knows?) that's why it would be useful what gametype your map uses and what gametype you trying to run it on. (this one is fair to assume, as 0.7 only has infcroya I believe)

a gerdoe 31-May-20 09:39 PM

@! FoXi Tee what are you doing with infc map?

infcroya is port of infclass

so i think 0.6 maps must work on 0.7 (edited)

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:40 PM

No

So I use linux (edited)

I open the computer

I enter in the "teeworlds 0.7.4" folder

I enter in build folder (edited)

I go to tools

I open the terminal

I write ./teeworlds

And it open

Then

a gerdoe 31-May-20 09:43 PM

you want change map?

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:43 PM

I go to infc server

a gerdoe 31-May-20 09:43 PM

edit*

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:43 PM

I conect to it

And the game crash instantly

@Stiopa

a gerdoe 31-May-20 09:50 PM

i have no problems on windows

maybe it is linux issue only

or your personal issue xd

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:51 PM

The pc is old and has an intel integrated old gpu whose driver wasn t updated since 2006 Maybe this might be a thing

Stiopa 31-May-20 09:52 PM

welp, I don't think I can help you either

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:52 PM

a gerdoe 31-May-20 09:52 PM

i have no problems on manjaro linux too (edited)

yeah update your graphics drivers

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 09:53 PM

I would update it if i had a newer driver

Deleted User 31-May-20 10:00 PM

rip to people with old drivers

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 10:01 PM

Dune 31-May-20 10:16 PM

OS?

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 10:18 PM

?

Dune 31-May-20 10:19 PM

operating system?

! FoXi Tee 31-May-20 10:20 PM

Linux lubuntu 18.04

@Dune If u found something just ping me Ok Thx Now i'm going to sleep beacose is 23:22 at me sooooooo

Good night

a gerdoe 31-May-20 11:13 PM

russian?

MarisaG 31-May-20 11:50 PM

I run both server & client on Ubuntu 16.04 with no problem...

a gerdoe 31-May-20 11:52 PM

might be drivers

or graphics settings

idk

MarisaG 31-May-20 11:53 PM

ya could be

I basicly do development & hosting so by no means are my systems cutting-edge

a gerdoe 31-May-20 11:54 PM

yeah no worries

MarisaG 31-May-20 11:57 PM

! FoXi Tee 01-Jun-20 12:00 PM

russian?

@a gerdoe Romanian

! FoXi Tee 01-Jun-20 12:55 PM

Hello

I want a partner

So

Who can play some teeworlds right now?

! FoXi Tee 01-Jun-20 01:07 PM

So

This is how it is

I open the folder and i enter in build

Then

I open a terminal in the curent folder

From tools

And i write "./teeworlds"

Then i press enter

And it open

And i will go to infc map

As you can see is an infcroya

I will enter in this one beacose it has a small ping

And

This infcroya seems work

But

This server is on 0.7.5 too

a gerdoe 01-Jun-20 01:16 PM

so what is problem?

! FoXi Tee 01-Jun-20 01:18 PM

And

If i disconect

And i enter in other one

It looks horible

And after i muve a little

It crush

And in the terminal show this

Wait a sec @a gerdoe Pls

a gerdoe 01-Jun-20 01:25 PM

is normal ping server crashing?

also that 333 ping server chinese and i didnt join this

! FoXi Tee 01-Jun-20 01:27 PM

Attachment: message.txt (18.58 KB)

a gerdoe 01-Jun-20 01:29 PM

intel_do_flush_locked failed: No space left on device

! FoXi Tee 01-Jun-20 01:30 PM

@Schmetterhand

Dune 01-Jun-20 02:12 PM

@! FoXi Tee try df / do you have free space?

! FoXi Tee 01-Jun-20 05:48 PM

~/Desktop/teeworlds 0.7.4/build$ df / Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda6 76978940 18144188 54881396 25% /

Dune 01-Jun-20 07:26 PM

hm

possibly a driver issue then

Deleted User 01-Jun-20 07:47 PM

i think he previously said he has old drivers

a gerdoe 01-Jun-20 07:48 PM

he didnt check it yet

! FoXi Tee 01-Jun-20 08:44 PM

hey

who want to play infc on DDNet?

Stiopa 02-Jun-20 01:24 PM

1.question, what are the reqs for a skin portion to be added into the game? 2. will such skins be added in 0.7.x versions or will that be in 0.8? 3. will such skins be added in 0.8.x using the new planned features?

Tokashi-San 02-Jun-20 06:32 PM

he

y

Stiopa 03-Jun-20 10:30 AM

I mean, can we play it for free on vex4...?

what's this all about?

Dune 03-Jun-20 12:30 PM

ad spam

Lieutenant Glups 03-Jun-20 09:01 PM

still some player on this game O.O ❤️

a gerdoe 03-Jun-20 09:02 PM

ye

Lieutenant Glups 03-Jun-20 09:03 PM

I started play at least 8 years ago

Stiopa 03-Jun-20 09:20 PM

many people have

Stiopa 03-Jun-20 10:57 PM

also, is it intended that when you join a game, the K/D count only starts counting from then?

louis 04-Jun-20 01:09 AM

anyone know if teeworlds has official social media/ yt?

Dune 04-Jun-20 01:21 AM

teeworlds doesn't

ShootXen 04-Jun-20 07:11 AM

@Stiopa there was some discussion about making it server side but I'm not sure what the current situation is (edited)

Stiopa 04-Jun-20 10:08 AM

I see

a gerdoe 04-Jun-20 10:36 AM

who cares bruh

Stiopa 04-Jun-20 10:55 AM

it's not the most pressing issue, but it's something to consider nonetheless

heinrich5991 04-Jun-20 11:21 AM

@Stiopa there's an issue for it: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/158#issuecomment-488348979

In game statistics · Issue #158 · teeworlds/teeworlds

What about a more detailed scoreboard at the end of each game with ratios, accuracy etc.

Stiopa 04-Jun-20 11:21 AM

BENJAMINPLAYZ 05-Jun-20 02:04 AM

Joined the server.

! FoXi Tee 05-Jun-20 09:58 AM

jxsl13 05-Jun-20 02:01 PM

vanilla ctf problems

Frozen-Hug 05-Jun-20 03:10 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 05-Jun-20 05:30 PM

ddrace problems tho

Stiopa 05-Jun-20 05:31 PM

iFB problems

a gerdoe 05-Jun-20 05:32 PM

instagib problems

fng problems

gctf problems

and so on

Stiopa 05-Jun-20 05:36 PM

every gametype's problem in a nutshell

pokles 05-Jun-20 05:45 PM

real life problems

jxsl13 05-Jun-20 05:53 PM

that's not a zCatch problem :O, cuz you got no team!

pokles 05-Jun-20 06:26 PM

or solo ddrace

or 1v1

or fortnite cuz its ffa /im sorry

QMEKZ 05-Jun-20 06:43 PM

Joined the server.

skao 06-Jun-20 08:20 AM

Joined the server.

Hello?

Sonix 06-Jun-20 10:49 AM

hello

n000b 06-Jun-20 10:50 AM

Hello

Soeren 06-Jun-20 10:52 AM

Joined the server.

pokles 06-Jun-20 11:03 AM

welcome

bioni ! 06-Jun-20 11:56 AM

Joined the server.

! FoXi Tee 06-Jun-20 01:24 PM

hi

how can i open the F-client on linux

Dune 06-Jun-20 01:36 PM

@fokkonaut

! FoXi Tee 06-Jun-20 01:56 PM

WTF is that?

Stiopa 06-Jun-20 01:59 PM

colorful

fokkonaut 06-Jun-20 02:05 PM

@! FoXi Tee download? or compile yourself

! FoXi Tee 06-Jun-20 02:11 PM

from software

and what is this?

Stiopa 06-Jun-20 02:16 PM

#bridge I suppose

! FoXi Tee 06-Jun-20 02:18 PM

@fokkonaut

fokkonaut 06-Jun-20 02:20 PM

https://fokkonaut.github.io/F-Client

a gerdoe 06-Jun-20 02:23 PM

colorful

Dune 06-Jun-20 02:40 PM

@! FoXi Tee is that from a modification or from the official client?

Deleted User 06-Jun-20 04:07 PM

when i change tabs from teeworlds and then change it back to teeworlds nothing appears wtf

oh it has something to do with my resolution

Deleted User 06-Jun-20 08:22 PM

Joined the server.

Skayland 07-Jun-20 04:02 AM

is the opengl 3.3 thing still experimental? (edited)

Learath2 07-Jun-20 10:35 AM

I don't thing there is an opengl 3 renderer in vanilla at all

on the ddnet client it is pretty stable but we don't enable it by default because some people have issues with it

Belukas 07-Jun-20 10:46 AM

anybody down for some instagib dm or even flagball?

Dune 07-Jun-20 12:01 PM

@Belukas you could @.here in https://discord.gg/BWBE6c for flagball

1

redix 07-Jun-20 12:45 PM

While the opengl 3.3 renderer is stable for me, it's slower than the old one in some cases. It's faster at rendering maps but the menus (especially the serverbrowser) are slower in 3.3

Dune 07-Jun-20 12:46 PM

Some games let you choose

redix 07-Jun-20 12:47 PM

It basically emulates legacy opengl, since teeworlds relies on direct mode rendering. Actually modern drivers are better at doing this

Learath2 07-Jun-20 12:47 PM

The 3d texture hack vanilla does is pretty

redix 07-Jun-20 12:48 PM

But you cannot use mipmaps with it. This would require 2d texture arrays (opengl 3)

Learath2 07-Jun-20 12:49 PM

What kind of toaster still doesn't support gl3?

redix 07-Jun-20 12:50 PM

Hardly anything, yeah. But that does not mean that the drivers perform well =\

However other vendors have shitty drivers for legacy opengl but better ones for the modern stuff

Learath2 07-Jun-20 12:52 PM

it's six of one half a dozen of the other

redix 07-Jun-20 12:56 PM

But still... Opengl 3+ requires you to store your data on the gpu. Teeworlds regenerates all vertex data each frame, so you have to stream everything =\

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:00 PM

fixes a bug in a non hacky way, gets us way better performance rendering the actual tiles which is on the screen most of the time

but alas, the legacy ffp will stay with teeworlds until the day it dies, our ramblings are insignificant

Teeworlds never had much of a performance concern at all, why else would everything be stored in the naivest data structures ever manipulated by the naivest algorithms possible except for the very low level engine stuff that has to pick up the slack for the rest of the code

redix 07-Jun-20 01:08 PM

Actually speeding up the tile rendering should be doable with opengl 2.1. The streaming method used by ddnet is slower than opengl client arrays (at least for some drivers... Tested it on Intel and Nvidia gpus). For example the server browser has way higher fps with legacy opengl for me. But in general I agree that relying on OpenGL 1.1 isn't a good idea...

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:11 PM

Eh the compatibility profile isn't likely to go anywhere and I guess with newer gpus even if the driver support for it starts to suffer from bitrot it'd still perform decent just because the gpus are getting better

redix 07-Jun-20 01:15 PM

True, but using texture arrays, VBOs or some other "modern" features might still be useful

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:17 PM

One can hope

I should finish up that editor new map thing

redix 07-Jun-20 01:22 PM

@Dune what about requiring opengl 2.1 instead of 1.1 for tw. It's possible to write 2.1 code that is mostly compatible with 3.3 (except for VAOs and direct mode rendering). This would allow to add some 3.3 stuff without having two completely separate backends.

Dune 07-Jun-20 01:23 PM

I dont know much about opengl

! FoXi Tee 07-Jun-20 01:23 PM

I know a little

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:23 PM

how do I find out what my graphics card/driver supports?

! FoXi Tee 07-Jun-20 01:24 PM

I play openspades

And

redix 07-Jun-20 01:26 PM

On Linux glxinfo should do

Probably OpenGL 4+ anyway :D

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:27 PM

3.0 for my old netbook, 4.6 for the other computer

glxinfo -B

redix 07-Jun-20 01:28 PM

Hmm okay

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:28 PM

but it's very old I gues

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:29 PM

I have a opengl 1.2 gfx card somewhere in my cabinet

redix 07-Jun-20 01:29 PM

Wow

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:29 PM

glxinfo -B | grep "OpenGL version"

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:29 PM

GeForce 256 gang

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:29 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_256

GeForce 256

The GeForce 256 is the original release in Nvidia's "GeForce" product-line. Announced on August 31, 1999 and released on October 11, 1999, the GeForce 256 improves on its predecessor (RIVA TNT2) by increasing the number of fixed pixel pipelines, offloading host geometry calcu...

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:29 PM

Salvaged from a very old desktop that mostly worked, I wonder if the card still works

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:30 PM

GeForce 256 was marketed as "the world's first 'GPU', or Graphics Processing Unit", a term Nvidia defined at the time as "a single-chip processor with integrated transform, lighting, triangle setup/clipping, and rendering engines that is capable of processing a minimum of 10 million polygons per second."[7]

redix 07-Jun-20 01:32 PM

It says opengl 1.2... I think 3d textures in 0.7 already require 1.3

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:33 PM

I don't expect it to run teeworlds to begin with

redix 07-Jun-20 01:33 PM

True ^^

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:33 PM

the thing is atleast 20 years old

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:34 PM

mine is the onboard graphics card of intel celeron 1007u btw

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:36 PM

Did you know that a macbook pro from 2017 struggles with tw?

could fry an egg on the keyboard if you wanted

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:36 PM

did apple get rid of opengl already?

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:36 PM

no it's still there

redix 07-Jun-20 01:37 PM

But they don't care too much about the driver performance I guess...

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:37 PM

it's deprecated so probably yeah

redix 07-Jun-20 01:38 PM

Metal backend!

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:39 PM

something else also seems broken

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:40 PM

dbg_graphs 0

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:40 PM

Let's rewrite teeworlds with vulkan

The old if I can't see the issue it's not real routine?

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:42 PM

I thought the unexpected thing was the graphs ^^

what can one see in the graphs?

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:44 PM

That I have horrible internet?

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 01:44 PM

is it the graph going into red territory in the gametime margin?

ah

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:44 PM

it's also probably the cpu throttling down because the computer is too hot and that increasing the processing time for each tick

bad internet + bad computer = the game cant keep up with the server, is my current running theory

Dune 07-Jun-20 01:48 PM

Those graphs are bad?

That's better than I get

Learath2 07-Jun-20 01:48 PM

hm I thought that'd be enough to cause the issues I have, I cant even move most of the time

maybe very high packet loss

Great, another xcode update to break my computer

redix 07-Jun-20 01:56 PM

@Learath2 vsync I guess? I think async rendering is disabled by default. Might cause the regular spikes. But yeah... Connection looks bad

heinrich5991 07-Jun-20 02:47 PM

https://chromium.googlesource.com/angle/angle

Dune 07-Jun-20 03:08 PM

windowed teeworlds has some massive 1 second spikes when open alongside some other applications that use GPU on my win7

redix 07-Jun-20 03:24 PM

Might be sdl, the OS, the driver, ... For me tw is unusable when I have a second monitor attached =\

Dune 07-Jun-20 03:41 PM

yeah

fokkonaut 07-Jun-20 03:58 PM

teeworlds without fullscreen or with vsync on is just unplayable

mouse input is heavily delayed

Stiopa 07-Jun-20 04:01 PM

is it? I play with vsync on... hmm

Dune 07-Jun-20 04:01 PM

I don't really notice

Stiopa 07-Jun-20 04:01 PM

neither do I

Stiopa 07-Jun-20 04:11 PM

in fact, without vsync the game isn't smooth for me...

a gerdoe 07-Jun-20 04:33 PM

@fokkonaut right

Kompyuter 07-Jun-20 05:02 PM

Joined the server.

MaCRoYale 07-Jun-20 07:29 PM

Does anyone know if TIMEY, xxx, or Rebel have discord?

ZoOoM.7z 07-Jun-20 07:47 PM

First movie on 0.7 ver. with converted skin from 0.6 and compiled client with HUD fixes for clean screen in demo viewer (all offered clients (for now) didn't fit cus of annoying HUD). I will be glad to adequate criticism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVuQQKYyIOY

ZoØoM.7z

TeeWorlds Movie: Making the Impossible Possible

Creation date movie: 07.06.2020 - 1 night Software used: Own compiled 0.7 client with HUD fixes Secret recording program MAGIX Vegas Pro 17 Music used: Christopher Field - Battleborn My site: https://zooom7z.github.io/

4

Spotsy 07-Jun-20 09:04 PM

Joined the server.

Assa 07-Jun-20 11:40 PM

Ah yes 100% cheats

louis 08-Jun-20 06:17 AM

what do you mean first movie

here are my criticisms:

your timing with the background music is good

but you need to work on ur cc

also some of the camera angles could be good but i think you should use them in a better way, maybe you could transition a smooth pan to new camera angles instead of abruptly switching the camera position.

otherwise its cool

as for the cc: imo too saturated, a bit hard to look at

you want the main elements to be highlighted, not everything on the screen

the dirt and sky seem too saturated/bright

definitely need less red

should also work on thumbnails. (they are important to grab attention!)

also, the animated snow added on top only works well if you have darker colors imo (edited)

ZoOoM.7z 08-Jun-20 11:31 AM

@louis about cc that was experiment with bbc effects, i agree, need to find better color balance xD About camera, i used dyn to make more distance visible only for kills, about what else camera angles are u talking? About first movie i mean clean movie without any hud exactly on 0.7 ver. As i saw on yt, there was not good movies on 0.7 before (edited)

louis 08-Jun-20 02:57 PM

ah ok

maybe make the dyn movement more smooth? idk ho#w to explain

a gerdoe 08-Jun-20 03:01 PM

make all camera's moves smooth

it will be better i think

Stiopa 08-Jun-20 05:13 PM

Discord - awful chat client D:

louis 08-Jun-20 05:59 PM

not

Stiopa 08-Jun-20 06:03 PM

I am just commenting on #bridge

I, of course, am a big fan of discord

Deleted User 08-Jun-20 07:52 PM

Joined the server.

not rj

! FoXi Tee 08-Jun-20 08:24 PM

* *

Lunie 08-Jun-20 09:50 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 08-Jun-20 09:51 PM

@Lunie rule 2

Lunie 08-Jun-20 09:51 PM

Русские есть?

3

jxsl13 08-Jun-20 10:52 PM

english only discord ;/

uwu 09-Jun-20 06:53 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 09-Jun-20 06:53 PM

rj

reneas 09-Jun-20 08:10 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 09-Jun-20 08:54 PM

rj

Deleted User 10-Jun-20 12:34 AM

rj

Skayland 10-Jun-20 12:44 AM

rj

ιтz ChiaXx ✿ 10-Jun-20 09:49 AM

rj?

Assa 10-Jun-20 09:57 AM

[r]ocket[j]ump

heinrich5991 10-Jun-20 10:05 AM

I believe it's "rage join", the humorous opposite of "rage quit" (rq)

a gerdoe 10-Jun-20 11:02 AM

heinrich always is an intellectual :)

n000b 10-Jun-20 12:51 PM

^^

jxsl13 10-Jun-20 01:20 PM

[r]e[j]oin

2

Stiopa 10-Jun-20 01:36 PM

screaming cat

Aispa' 10-Jun-20 04:22 PM

Joined the server.

louis 10-Jun-20 04:30 PM

rj

Skayland 10-Jun-20 05:44 PM

rj

Yea its rage join

Sonix 10-Jun-20 06:03 PM

(r)e(j)oice

cur.ie 11-Jun-20 05:56 AM

Joined the server.

cur.ie 11-Jun-20 06:28 AM

I created 2 servers in different locations to test out ping. Configuration is essentially the same, difference is OS [Linux, ubuntu 20 minimal OK, Windows Server 2012R2 bad]. Issue: I can only see one in server list. I can see both on https://status.tw/server/list/ Im confused. Both claim to connect to master list. I can connect directly to both using IP:Port. (edited)

Server list - status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players

Dune 11-Jun-20 09:38 AM

Hey @cur.ie , is one of them localhost?

When a server is on your Local Area Network, it does not show up on the Internet tab

Can you see them on status.tw?

cur.ie 11-Jun-20 09:39 AM

None is local

One is a physical dedicated server that has a static IP directly from ISP and a local IP to the server farm. The other is a public IP only

Dune 11-Jun-20 09:39 AM

Both display "no problems detected, server registered"-ish message in the console?

cur.ie 11-Jun-20 09:39 AM

I can see both on status

yes

I managed to get both up to the list by forcing 1 ip only under bindadr, but would have prefered the redundancy of both

Dune 11-Jun-20 09:40 AM

with different portS?

cur.ie 11-Jun-20 09:40 AM

same port, same machine

Dune 11-Jun-20 09:41 AM

how are they both up to the list?

cur.ie 11-Jun-20 09:41 AM

2 different hosts, with 3 ip addresses in total

Dune 11-Jun-20 09:42 AM

so you think it's this IP redirection to the server farm that is causing problems?

cur.ie 11-Jun-20 09:48 AM

kind of. it seemed so until I bound my IP. Then it worked, but that limits connections from only 1 ip

issue got resolved btw, sorry for bad clarity

Dune 11-Jun-20 09:50 AM

ah

well there's still somewhat of an issue, it just got worked around :p

DGR 11-Jun-20 06:38 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 11-Jun-20 06:51 PM

rj?

a gerdoe 11-Jun-20 06:53 PM

nrj

Missu 11-Jun-20 07:31 PM

Joined the server.

ReiTW 11-Jun-20 10:18 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 12-Jun-20 12:46 AM

u

jxsl13 12-Jun-20 12:46 AM

rj

Arseniy Zarche 12-Jun-20 10:33 AM

nrj sounds like energizer

rj is rat job isn't so?

Stiopa 12-Jun-20 10:35 AM

[r]at [j]ob

a gerdoe 12-Jun-20 10:49 AM

so bj is a

hm

bad job

Tezcan 12-Jun-20 07:57 PM

can someone tell me why some tilesets are warped in 0.7?

or tell me how to fix it?

Dune 12-Jun-20 08:21 PM

warped?

Stiopa 12-Jun-20 08:24 PM

the doodads, probably

Tezcan 12-Jun-20 08:29 PM

@Dune yea

http://prntscr.com/syottq

Here is the map if you wanna take a look at it

Attachment: run_glowing_night.map (1.08 MB)

Dune 12-Jun-20 08:38 PM

There is a script to convert tilesets

Dune 12-Jun-20 09:00 PM

Maps*

Tezcan 12-Jun-20 10:15 PM

I used the script, but that was not the actual problem

the problem was that the tileset had not the dimension of 1024x1024 which seems to be necessary in 0.7

Harlequin 12-Jun-20 11:53 PM

uh

jxsl13 13-Jun-20 02:40 AM

Tezcan't

2

Dune 13-Jun-20 10:19 AM

@Tezcan ah, that's possible yeah

𝐬 𝐚 𝐢 𝐤 𝐨 13-Jun-20 07:22 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 13-Jun-20 11:05 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 14-Jun-20 12:59 AM

random skin i made

i know im bad

Dune 14-Jun-20 01:20 AM

a @noby fan?

a gerdoe 14-Jun-20 01:21 AM

fan of abuse

Souly 14-Jun-20 01:57 AM

noby marking for 0.7 pls

noby 14-Jun-20 02:19 AM

i made my server accept 0.7 cliens yesterday

ReiTW 14-Jun-20 03:27 AM

@noby bot f3 ban botby

noby 14-Jun-20 03:28 AM

fv

ReiTW 14-Jun-20 03:29 AM

no u

! FoXi Tee 14-Jun-20 09:44 AM

What @irclink do?

Dune 14-Jun-20 10:22 AM

It's a bot that bridges with IRC

Souly 14-Jun-20 02:21 PM

well, i tried

Attachment: noby.json (570 B)

Dune 14-Jun-20 04:00 PM

Yes, that's called econ

Ryozuki 14-Jun-20 05:16 PM

econ uses telnet right?

ReiTW 14-Jun-20 05:56 PM

+1

lo recommended

regina 14-Jun-20 06:52 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 14-Jun-20 06:53 PM

yes, @Ryozuki

a gerdoe 14-Jun-20 07:57 PM

rj

Oblikumquat 15-Jun-20 01:11 AM

https://youtu.be/Fax-GcGxTVU

Oblique.

Teeworlds Fails AMV

Spunney 15-Jun-20 04:12 AM

Joined the server.

hillo!

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 04:14 AM

rj

NightshadeEH 15-Jun-20 05:06 AM

Joined the server.

Hi

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 05:10 AM

rj

NightshadeEH 15-Jun-20 05:11 AM

Anybody want to play fng?

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 01:59 PM

@fokkonaut it indeed seems smooth

did people make side-by-side comparisons?

ye (edited)

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:00 PM

you mean regarding the emotes in #bridge ?

yea i have no idea why that is

but its cool

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 02:01 PM

uh noby says

separate sendpackmsg for emotes?

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:02 PM

thats not it

that is to translate it for vanilla 0.6 clients, they have 16 players only

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 02:02 PM

hmm

to paraphrase, 'if it's not related to the sendpackmsg then I have no idea' (edited)

the great mystery

noby 15-Jun-20 02:15 PM

lol

i dont think i touched any of the emote related code

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 02:16 PM

maybe you had optimized packages?

package sending

noby 15-Jun-20 02:17 PM

actually alot of the optimizations i made to the netcode are now temporarily disabled during the switch to supporting 0.7

so if the emotes behave the same now as they did a couple weeks ago, then its probably not that

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 02:17 PM

but anyway it mustnt touch the emotes speed

aisyx 15-Jun-20 02:17 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 02:18 PM

rj

noby 15-Jun-20 02:18 PM

i have sv_emoticon_delay 0

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 02:18 PM

ddnet7 too, isnt it?

ddnet7 servers

noby 15-Jun-20 02:19 PM

does this emote behavior happen on any other servers?

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 02:19 PM

@fokkonaut

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:25 PM

@noby not that i have noticed

noby 15-Jun-20 02:26 PM

have u tried on normal fng (0.6 and 0.7), and ddnet (0.6 and 0.7 and preferably one based on 10.8.6 version like mine is)?

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:28 PM

yea its only u

i believe

noby 15-Jun-20 02:28 PM

lol thats weird

i looked at the two places i remembered seeing emote code in gamecontext.cpp and i dont see anything that looks abnormal

is there anywhere else i should check

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 02:30 PM

if you had optimized netcode, can you pr this to master?

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:31 PM

It doesnt matter whether netcode is "optimited" or not

The packet arrives at the clients at some point

and there is nothing like a smooth variable or whatever

the client gets the packet the same way as on other servers

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:33 PM

@noby nice to see you also doing a bridge server

noby 15-Jun-20 02:33 PM

:D

im using alot of the code from unique server

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:33 PM

i thought we would get an answer when learath typed :D

noby 15-Jun-20 02:33 PM

@a gerdoe its ugly and im not using alot of the optimizations anymore due to the 0.7 thing

i also suggested the idea behind the best one and ddnet added it

the inforequest caching thing

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:34 PM

@a gerdoe the netcode optimizations we have are usually not useful unless you are hosting very large servers with a lot of ddos :D

noby 15-Jun-20 02:34 PM

yes thats why i did it

anti ddos

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:34 PM

0.7 already caches the info ○/

noby 15-Jun-20 02:34 PM

ah

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:34 PM

Well a bit

It only generates once per tick

noby 15-Jun-20 02:34 PM

thats still way better than once per packet

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:34 PM

Instead of one per tick per person :D

noby 15-Jun-20 02:34 PM

or per packet

which is how i thought 0.6 does by default

7:33 AM] fokkonaut: i thought we would get an answer when learath typed :D lol maybe, @Learath2 do u know what could cause the behavior fokkonoaut is talking about?

why emotes would seem 'smoother' on my server

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:36 PM

Hm, do they show up smoother or disappear smoother?

noby 15-Jun-20 02:37 PM

idont know tbh ive never noticed it before

my first guess was that its something client side

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:38 PM

they appear smoother

the pop up animation

its not like beep emote is there

more like its coming slowly and wavy

noby 15-Jun-20 02:39 PM

o yeah that was totally on purpose 8)

..is what id like to be able to say

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:40 PM

xd

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:40 PM

Well i can take a look at the code in a couple mins

noby 15-Jun-20 02:40 PM

which part of the code

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:40 PM

I'd take a look at the client see how the emotes opacity is set

noby 15-Jun-20 02:40 PM

oo

and @fokkonaut this happens in all clients uve tried?

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:40 PM

yes

noby 15-Jun-20 02:41 PM

lol weird

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:41 PM

Also can take a look at the contents of the emote object on nobys server vs others

noby 15-Jun-20 02:41 PM

void CGameContext::SendEmoticon(int ClientID, int Emoticon) { CNetMsg_Sv_Emoticon Msg; Msg.m_ClientID = ClientID; Msg.m_Emoticon = Emoticon; Server()->SendPackMsg(&Msg, MSGFLAG_VITAL, -1); }

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:42 PM

xd

noby 15-Jun-20 02:43 PM

or a different part

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 02:44 PM

yep, vital msg

noby 15-Jun-20 02:44 PM

oh are emotes usually not marked as vital?

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 02:45 PM

no, I am just trying to act intelligent which I am not

noby 15-Jun-20 02:45 PM

lol

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 02:45 PM

"ah yes, the floor here is made out of floor"

noby 15-Jun-20 02:46 PM

u can see the -1 which tells the server to send them smoother and thats how it works

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 02:46 PM

xD

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 02:46 PM

ah, yes

that definitely is it!

noby 15-Jun-20 02:46 PM

lol

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 02:46 PM

-1 clearly stands for permanent

you send a permanent package, yes. that must be it. yes.

noby 15-Jun-20 02:50 PM

lol, well idk, i just looked at the same function in ddnet source and its the same

Learath2 15-Jun-20 02:51 PM

Eh nothing in there that'd influence this

So the emote rendering would be where i look

noby 15-Jun-20 02:52 PM

is it possibly related to the fact that my server has a "+" in the gametype

it affects other clientside emoticon things like making it draw a separate wheel for eyeemotes so maybe?

Learath2 15-Jun-20 03:02 PM

@noby ur server just nuked me

noby 15-Jun-20 03:02 PM

what client

lol

Learath2 15-Jun-20 03:02 PM

0.7.5

well actually master

noby 15-Jun-20 03:02 PM

huh what did it do

funny bcs u tagged me 5sec after some ath guy got autobanned so wondered

i tested and it should work with 0.7.5

Learath2 15-Jun-20 03:04 PM

I don't even see the server anymore

noby 15-Jun-20 03:04 PM

oh wait

vpn?

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 03:04 PM

hah

noby 15-Jun-20 03:05 PM

there is . bypass for antivpn

dm

Learath2 15-Jun-20 03:07 PM

hm doesn't look smoother than vanilla to me

noby 15-Jun-20 03:07 PM

ye i never noticed either :X

@fokkonaut can u make a recording of hwo it looks for u?

also maybe try with 0.6 client ad see(?)

Learath2 15-Jun-20 03:08 PM

I guess @fokkonaut is just having a complex partial seizure

a very long one

noby 15-Jun-20 03:08 PM

lmao

only affects emotes on some servers

given what i know i wouldve assumed its something wit his client

since he plays with it there

fokkonaut 15-Jun-20 03:09 PM

what do you mean?

noby 15-Jun-20 03:09 PM

like

use screenrecorder

and show how the emots look for u

Attachment: dfsfdds.mp4 (411.7 KB)

doesnt it look like this

Fred 15-Jun-20 03:15 PM

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noby 15-Jun-20 03:20 PM

@heinrich5991 i cant talk in #bridge but he gets good ping to my server and says it doesnt happen on any other servers [where he would presumably have the same ping]

heinrich5991 15-Jun-20 03:20 PM

you can now talk in #bridge

noby 15-Jun-20 03:20 PM

thanks

! FoXi Tee 15-Jun-20 04:42 PM

can i put memes here about teeworlds?

! FoXi Tee 15-Jun-20 04:49 PM

a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 04:56 PM

alt+f4 joke

Sebaesponja 15-Jun-20 06:05 PM

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Who can help me with a error ban in Kog servers ?

ReiTW 15-Jun-20 06:13 PM

@noby when people gets autobanned by antivpn

noby 15-Jun-20 06:20 PM

loll

Skayland 15-Jun-20 06:33 PM

Lol

benj 15-Jun-20 06:58 PM

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a gerdoe 15-Jun-20 06:58 PM

rj

! FoXi Tee 15-Jun-20 06:58 PM

f

hubertueur 15-Jun-20 07:23 PM

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reneas 15-Jun-20 11:18 PM

hey people! i have seen that a race server i was playing on used the version "0.7.4, Race 4.0-dev" in the teeworlds forum i can only find a race version 3.3 and its for patch 0.6.1. can anyone tell me where i can find this specific version to download? i want to host my own race server!

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 11:19 PM

rj

reneas 15-Jun-20 11:19 PM

what is rj?

heinrich5991 15-Jun-20 11:19 PM

I think @timakro might have one, @reneas

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 11:20 PM

oh, rj is a generic response we give when we see someone join the server

reneas 15-Jun-20 11:21 PM

@heinrich5991 i already had contact with him, but he said he only has the unique-clan server thingy which is not at all documented and kinda unpractical to use for anyone who didnt program it xD (something like this)

@Stiopa what does it stand for?

Stiopa 15-Jun-20 11:23 PM

rage join, opposite of rq

reneas 15-Jun-20 11:24 PM

lul

@heinrich5991 any other idea?

Naoki ;3 15-Jun-20 11:26 PM

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1

new server?

heinrich5991 15-Jun-20 11:29 PM

@reneas no, not any other idea

reneas 15-Jun-20 11:54 PM

@Naoki ;3 yes i want to set up a new race server

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:02 AM

@heinrich5991 @reneas this is @redix's 0.7 race mod

I don't think there are released binaries anywhere unfortunately, and the artifacts have expired since @redix's last commt is old

the sources are at https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds/tree/race

hover over settings make hint appear · Issue #1834 · teeworlds/teew...

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to axblk/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

if you can build it from source or get someone to

redix 16-Jun-20 12:13 AM

Just a few notes: this is a basic version of solo race. It hardly supports any of the ddrace/ddnet features and is incompatible with their teleport and speedup format The branch is based on 0.7.5 and is running kinda stable. I didn't do a real release as I never finished the extended maplayer format (+ editor support). Today ddnet7 (or the various other ddrace versions flying around) offer way more features.

I mainly did this to be able to use teerace maps in 0.7. Sadly teerace is kinda dead =\

Naoki ;3 16-Jun-20 12:17 AM

@reneas i meant something else but ok

Stiopa 16-Jun-20 12:17 AM

in what ways was Teerace diff from the other race? (edited)

redix 16-Jun-20 12:19 AM

Rather competitive solo race. Mostly short maps... and the top times often only differed by a few milliseconds

Maybe similar to todays unique race

Stiopa 16-Jun-20 12:21 AM

with mostly grenades?

redix 16-Jun-20 12:21 AM

yes. some fastcap maps even without any weapons. Just moving through a ctf map as fast as possible

Naoki ;3 16-Jun-20 12:22 AM

I prefer make some race maps for DDnet and not making new server with 'new races'

redix 16-Jun-20 12:24 AM

For short maps the default ddnet version does not have precise enough timing

Naoki ;3 16-Jun-20 12:26 AM

There are many short maps and i think we dont need more

Or write to deen that we need more precise timing on race mode

If you know how you can help with moving DDnet to 0.7

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:30 AM

well ddnet7 is a thing

redix 16-Jun-20 12:31 AM

Some people prefer longer maps, others like shorter ones... :) Actually today most people play on ddrace / cooperative maps anyway When someone wants to host many short maps he can just modify ddnet to support milliseconds (like unique race did)

Naoki ;3 16-Jun-20 12:31 AM

DDnet 0.7 isnt official

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:31 AM

nothing is

redix 16-Jun-20 12:32 AM

Well I mostly abandoned the repo above due to lack of time... and so far progress on ddnet7 was kinda slow

Naoki ;3 16-Jun-20 12:33 AM

you are right

reneas 16-Jun-20 12:43 AM

so i actually wanted to play teerace (@Dune im the guy who wrote to you on teeworlds forum as well) @redix i dont even want to play ddrace just some old fashioned grenade launcher races like guy_25, run_moon or forrest, maybe even h_race. the main problem im having is that guy_25 for example has teleports (which don't work if i just download the map and host a server with it). i'm guessing it has something to do with the config-file but as i couldn't find any list of cfg commands i have no idea how to do it. "sv_teleport 1" doesnt work. another issue im having is that when i download a map and host it on a server, some tiles are missing. either the death tiles are invisible or sometimes they are visible but dont actually kill you. i also tried the map_update program, but it doesnt seem to work for this issue. any help is greatly appreciated

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:43 AM

@reneas this is because of the map, not because of the server config. you should use the map_update.exe script that @redix has engineered

reneas 16-Jun-20 12:43 AM

i did!

redix 16-Jun-20 12:45 AM

where did you download guy_25? i guess this map was built with ddnet in 0.6. Even in 0.6 teerace was not 100% compatible with ddnet and right now the tool cannot handle the ddnet format

Stiopa 16-Jun-20 12:47 AM

guy_25 dates back to even 0.5 I think

I remember playing it far back

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:47 AM

yeah definitely

redix 16-Jun-20 12:47 AM

Maybe i'll find some time to extend the map_update tool

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:47 AM

but maps have versions

oh, that'd be lovely

redix 16-Jun-20 12:49 AM

Actually i'm not sure about the output format. The stuff I tried in my race repo is far from optimal, but I don't want to use the stuff from 0.6 again. It's kinda messy

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:49 AM

what do you mean by output format?

redix 16-Jun-20 12:49 AM

the format for extended layers (teleport, speedup, ..)

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:49 AM

ah

the compatibility break is not nice, not sure it is worth it

reneas 16-Jun-20 12:50 AM

i downloaded once from heinrich5991 website (the endlessly long list of about 30k maps) and once, when i played it on another server. an update for the update tool would be great as well! maybe i just have to host the server on the 0.5.x client, altough i really like the new 0.7.x client. looks really neat and all

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:50 AM

changing map versions every year creates a lot of confusion

@reneas there is already an update tool, did you really use it? heinrich5991's website has 0.6 maps

redix 16-Jun-20 12:51 AM

it should at least base on something uuid based (ddnet already supports this but it's not used for the layers)

reneas 16-Jun-20 12:51 AM

ye i used it with ./map_update oldmap.map newmap.map

Stiopa 16-Jun-20 12:51 AM

heinrich's website is a blessing

I was able to find the bctf map used in that gamemode back from early-mid 0.6s (edited)

Dune 16-Jun-20 12:52 AM

hehe

thank @heinrich5991 !

reneas 16-Jun-20 12:53 AM

hell ye, only my pc takes ages to load the website xD

Stiopa 16-Jun-20 12:55 AM

(he will probably see the message) thank you heinrich

! FoXi Tee 16-Jun-20 08:46 AM

Thats what i found in kog server

Bust 16-Jun-20 01:06 PM

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a gerdoe 16-Jun-20 01:38 PM

rj

2

Stiopa 16-Jun-20 01:40 PM

yup, rj definitely

heinrich5991 16-Jun-20 01:51 PM

@reneas you could try opening the list in firefox, for some reason chrome chokes on a simple but long page

Dune 16-Jun-20 01:59 PM

@reneas it puts the new map in the AppData folder, did you get it from there?

reneas 16-Jun-20 02:03 PM

did it on Linux, where I think it's the .teeworlds folder. but I probably didn't use the map from there but thought it would replace the old on ein the same folder. gonna try that later. thanks for the replys @Dune @heinrich5991

Dune 16-Jun-20 02:03 PM

that's probably the problem

on linux, it's in .teeworlds or .local/share/teeworlds or so

dffgdjkf 16-Jun-20 02:48 PM

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Skayland 17-Jun-20 02:48 AM

any tileset extract tool for .map files?

Dune 17-Jun-20 02:55 AM

there used to be one iirc, but that's long ago

fokkonaut 17-Jun-20 09:32 AM

ddnet has one

Learath2 17-Jun-20 10:40 AM

I think that part didn't change yet so that should work

Diax 17-Jun-20 01:46 PM

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Alexander_ 17-Jun-20 02:06 PM

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hi

Dune 17-Jun-20 02:19 PM

hi

! KaLe_PoOoK 17-Jun-20 03:40 PM

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hi

n000b 17-Jun-20 08:46 PM

Why can't i unselect this box?

Nvm

Dune 17-Jun-20 08:47 PM

@n000b because you're in the "Teeworlds" filter

n000b 17-Jun-20 08:48 PM

Yeah this was first time i launched it

Stiopa 17-Jun-20 08:48 PM

@Dune maybe a tooltip could be added?

Dune 17-Jun-20 08:48 PM

there is no tooltip system in teeworlds

Stiopa 17-Jun-20 08:48 PM

hmmm

maybe it would be worthwhile adding one?

Dune 17-Jun-20 08:49 PM

that is an issue though, https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1834

if you hover over a setting (for example Show social) you should see a little pop up window where your mouse is that prints the text that you would see in f1 (usign the example show social, the hin...

Stiopa 17-Jun-20 08:49 PM

though I figure it'd take some time to code and isn't really a necessity

the milestone stuff is the necessary stuff, I suppose

ah I see... localisation issue

Dune 17-Jun-20 08:52 PM

thinking back, it's not such a huge issue, people are generally very voluntary when it comes to translations

the UI work might be heavier

n000b 17-Jun-20 08:52 PM

Some graphical problems

Dune 17-Jun-20 08:53 PM

what's the problem here, translation overflowing?

that's a translation issue then, not a code one

is this dutch?

n000b 17-Jun-20 08:53 PM

Wait this is maybe better

Yeah dutch

But the menu has a strange size right?

Dune 17-Jun-20 08:53 PM

no, the translation text is too long

It should be fixed at https://www.transifex.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/viewstrings/#nl/teeworlds

https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/attributes/fallthrough

Log in to your Transifex account. Or sign up to start your own project or help translate an existing one.

It's not a code issue

n000b 17-Jun-20 08:54 PM

Hmm i thought there is so much space left and right why is the menu centered like this

Dune 17-Jun-20 08:54 PM

hmmm, I think that's resolution dependent

what's your resolution?

Howard_Wolhtz 17-Jun-20 08:59 PM

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n000b 17-Jun-20 09:01 PM

Dunno i didn't change settings. Let me take a look

1600x900

n000b 17-Jun-20 09:09 PM

Changed the call vote in stemmen

Learath2 17-Jun-20 09:10 PM

The UI is indeed a little bit on the conservative side when it comes to size. I think mostly to look decent in 800x600 too

n000b 17-Jun-20 09:12 PM

And server info changed in server info instead server informatie (edited)

jxsl13 17-Jun-20 09:44 PM

because that's dutch.

Stiopa 17-Jun-20 09:46 PM

lovely dutch

Ravie 17-Jun-20 11:34 PM

@n000b you can enable a wider menu by clicking the rectangle button in the top right corner (if that's what you meant by strange size)

jxsl13 18-Jun-20 04:53 AM

scaling down the font size consistently would be great, as words or phrases cannot always be properly abbreviated.

brothKX 18-Jun-20 05:06 AM

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n000b 18-Jun-20 06:55 AM

@Ravie ah well i guess j ment this yeah

! FoXi Tee 18-Jun-20 07:31 AM

Learath2 18-Jun-20 09:52 AM

Font rendering needs quite some work. We should actually be able to calculate how many characters actually fit within a box without fake rendering. Better handling for truncating, new flag to scale down to fit into max width.

Dune 18-Jun-20 11:28 AM

Yeah FontSize is just a hack atm

Stiopa 18-Jun-20 05:12 PM

is there an issue about vanilla balance?

Stiopa 18-Jun-20 05:27 PM

another question

is there an ETA for 0.7.6 milestone?

Dune 18-Jun-20 05:34 PM

there are no gameplay issues, and no version deadline

Stiopa 18-Jun-20 05:35 PM

okay, thank you

I assume you are waiting for oy to have that server broadcast chat

(edited)

Stiopa 19-Jun-20 02:02 AM

the demo recording of the race will of course be toggleable?

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:04 AM

yes

Stiopa 19-Jun-20 02:04 AM

ah. so a client side option. nice

oh, and would it record only successful attempts, or all from beginning to end/kill?

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:28 AM

good question

German 19-Jun-20 07:01 AM

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MarisaG 19-Jun-20 07:14 AM

Hiya @German - nice to meet you

Nashy-Vú 19-Jun-20 09:25 AM

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BulgarianTee 19-Jun-20 09:25 AM

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Nashy-Vú 19-Jun-20 10:05 AM

hi

BulgarianTee 19-Jun-20 10:15 AM

hello c:

Stiopa 19-Jun-20 02:17 PM

hello, question from a beginner coder what's the reasoning behind using else if here and not switch()? (edited)

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:17 PM

none probably, it's not a big deal

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:22 PM

Well it is possible that you might want to declare something in the block, which would not be allowed in a case

there are several things you are not allowed to jump over

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:26 PM

@Learath2 you can just { } to declare things in a case block though

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:27 PM

switch also has a bit weird semantic where fallthrough is the default. I guess a switch could also be used there

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:27 PM

yeah, I don't often see a case where switch is significantly better performing or readable. maybe it's just me

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:27 PM

I love switch fallthrus

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:28 PM

they should be explicit, they are not, unfortunately

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:28 PM

I spent a long time writing explicit fallthroughs because modern gcc freaks out over them

(rightfully imo)

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:28 PM

yeah probably should have had a fallthru; instead of break

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:28 PM

there is [[fallthrough]] or so iirc?

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:28 PM

non-standard

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:28 PM

standard in some C++xy

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:29 PM

TIL

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:29 PM

fallthrough

C++17

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:29 PM

and required for gcc not to shit walls of warnings

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:29 PM

Well not in C mode

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:30 PM

but tbh any code construct that makes programmers go "oh isn't there a bug there? ah... maybe not" isn't great

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:30 PM

It's natural selection

survival of the keenest

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:31 PM

at this point just use gotos, at least they name their labels

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:32 PM

I love gotos aswell

I love all the "controversial" features

They all have great uses ruined by people that think they know better than you

I've seen people advocate for do { ...; break; ...; } while(false); instead of a goto because goto bad

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:35 PM

that do-while has clearer RAII semantics to me than goto into/from blocks

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:35 PM

At the cost of not being readable at all

Besides, you can read on the semantics if you have concerns, just like you learned the semantics of break

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:37 PM

if the semantics aren't obvious or often used, I and other people will get them wrong

see e.g. for/else in python

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:38 PM

The solution is to reintroduce these lost features to the community. Not pretend they dont exist

Honestly when I see a feature of C++ I'm not familiar with I open up a reference. Honestly I think this is also a skill missing from most new developers. As soon as they think they start to understand a language they think their training ends

The most important thing to learn is the ability to refer to authoritative resources on any subject you learn really

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:44 PM

@heinrich5991 for else is a thing? til

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:45 PM

@Dune yes, and it's semantics are non-intuitive at first

I predicted something completely different than what it actually is

its*

now I did it as well @Learath2, it's contagious

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:46 PM

I got an educated guess at what it is, but I wouldnt rely on it at all

If I see a for else, I'm opening up the documentation, no question

I don't think I'll ever get rid of the habit of saying it's when I should say its

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:48 PM

my guess was: it's executed when the for loop has no iterations

it really was: it's executed when the loop isn't broken out of

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:49 PM

I thought it was the exact opposite of what it actually is

Executed when a loop is broken out of as that'd help with a common pattern

Alas, I wouldn't ever assume

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:50 PM

when you read code for the first time, you can't look everything up

read a code base

you have to assume some stuff. the less unintuitive features/names there are, the better

e.g. I had to work on a huuge java project for university

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:50 PM

@Learath2 why do you insist on authoritative sources? it's not like programming is such a political topic where anyone would want to feed you wrong information

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:50 PM

I definitely couldn't look up what all the functions do

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:51 PM

Why not? I don't read code in languages I don't know. And if I'm reading one in a language I'm not familiar with I always have documentation open

E.g. while browsing the ghidra codebase

@Dune there are a whole lot of bad resources out there, especially for C which I'm most familiar with

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:52 PM

it looked hopeless, trying to understand everything

I still don't know how java annotations work internally, e.g.

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:52 PM

Tutorialspoint saying arrays decay into pointers has us answering 10 questions a month

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:52 PM

but they work in some sane way that I didn't have to look up

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:52 PM

I don't read code in languages I don't know.

doesn't feel like a viable policy. e.g. I'm working on a C++ project, and it uses perl for testing, etc. sometimes you have to write languages you do'nt know

@Learath2 bad as in factually inaccurate or bad advice?

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:53 PM

I've seen both

@Dune honestly, I wouldnt dare ship anything in a language I dont know

For personally toying around with a project sure

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:55 PM

Not everything is critical

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:55 PM

But I'd still have perl documentation up on my second screen

@Dune would you contribute to a go project if you dont know atleast a bit of go?

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 02:57 PM

I would try to if I need to fix a bug that's affecting me

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:58 PM

yeah ^

usually it's more that part of it is in go

e..g part of teeworlds is in python

part of it is in cmake slang too

gotta hack in both

Learath2 19-Jun-20 02:58 PM

I had to add sha support to libtw2 in rust, a language I dont know much about. I didnt even consider contributing it back to @heinrich5991's repo

Dune 19-Jun-20 02:59 PM

adding new features is maybe a bit different

I'd argue a dirty bug fix is better that no bug fix, that does not hold with features in general

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:00 PM

Besides, if you saw something like a => in js, wouldn't you look at documentation to see what it means?

I don't see how it'd be any different for for/else in python

Dune 19-Jun-20 03:01 PM

don't we write for languages we don't know much of every day? I mean I write shell scripts, makefiles, cmakefiles, and I only know a bit of those

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:01 PM

Even though I had a guess, I've never even seen anything similar in any other language. I really don't think I'd go with my assumption

Dune 19-Jun-20 03:01 PM

That's true

What if C++ had a similar thing? Wouldn't you just assume the semantics?

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:02 PM

Probably

I make it a point to defer to people who do know things as much as I can, I do know a bit of cmake but I ask the person who actually knows when I don't understand how a construct works

or just dig into the cmake docs, which are surprisingly decent actually

Actually, I'd like to weaken my position with "authoritative" sources, although I believe that is a very useful skill, I think the subset of it with referring to "known good" sources is also very important

Like cppreference for C/C++, it's actually quite useful

Dune 19-Jun-20 03:05 PM

I just feel like for most applications, copy pasting anthony1234's stack overflow comment and checking that it works is safe enough

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:06 PM

That I don't think I like, people really shouldn't refer to stackoverflow so much

Dune 19-Jun-20 03:06 PM

I don't trust it, but sometimes any solution that works is a good solution

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:06 PM

I've seen so many flat out wrong answers in stackoverflow especially when it comes to C and JS

Dune 19-Jun-20 03:06 PM

I mean, if it's something that you can test easily it's fine

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:06 PM

I guess yeah, when you want to hack together something, but when you are contributing to a project, I don't think you should be copy pasting stuff from stackoverflow and not even understanding it

Dune 19-Jun-20 03:07 PM

if it's a hash function that could be wrong in a corner case, okay it's not fine

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:07 PM

Like e.g. yesterday we were trying to help a guy trying to contribute to radare2, he was calling a function in a way that didn't make sense at all, and he had written the function which baffled me

Turns out he'd just copied over the implementation of the function from a stackoverflow answer and didn't really know how to call it

Dune 19-Jun-20 03:09 PM

well reverse engineering tools are particularly sensitive because they make so many hypothesis and wrong results aren't immediately obvious, right

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:10 PM

I mean even if it wasn't radare2, would you be inclined to trust someone that contributes a stackoverflow copypasta to teeworlds and can't even figure out how to call the function he stole?

Dune 19-Jun-20 03:11 PM

right, no

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:11 PM

Okay, I think my position on stackoverflow answers is, only okay if you actually understand what they do and it's not critical

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heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 03:12 PM

what about if you understand what they do or you somewhat understand it and it's not critical?

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:13 PM

you as in me or the guy who copied it over?

heinrich5991 19-Jun-20 03:14 PM

okay if …

but I guess you shouldn't copy it anyway due to licensing concerns

you can take the idea

Learath2 19-Jun-20 03:15 PM

Hm I think "somewhat understand" is where the most danger lies because you start to trust it too much

I've been bitten in the back a couple times thinking I understood an algorithm

Skayland 19-Jun-20 05:21 PM

Anyone has a link to that old teeworlds headless client?

jxsl13 19-Jun-20 07:19 PM

@ChillerDragon

?

Stiopa 20-Jun-20 02:42 PM

capitalized; uncapitalized

literally unplayable

a gerdoe 20-Jun-20 02:50 PM

just someone (translator) had bad day xd

jxsl13 20-Jun-20 03:25 PM

hm, I remember that chillerdragon does not have discord anymore, he did have a headless client somewhere in his github repositories. He is in the irc bridge.

Zyn 20-Jun-20 04:32 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 20-Jun-20 06:02 PM

@Stiopa u can fix it yourself, if u want

Dune 20-Jun-20 06:23 PM

@Assa https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=127506#p127506 you took it down?

Assa 20-Jun-20 06:45 PM

@Dune yes

Assa 20-Jun-20 07:28 PM

I put it to public again, with failing build and unmaintained flag

Jennifer 21-Jun-20 04:48 AM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 21-Jun-20 05:09 AM

rj

Mile 21-Jun-20 05:56 AM

Joined the server.

why is only DDRace played these days

Where have all the good days gone

a gerdoe 21-Jun-20 06:25 AM

fng and vanilla are still alive

Skayland 21-Jun-20 06:53 AM

Yea

I've organized an fng tournament myself with some friends a couple days ago, we filled 2 entire fng servers, more than 40 participants, around 10 spectators ingame and even more on twitch and discord stream

If you think good days are gone then do something about it, this game needs more events organizers, more coders and gamemodes, more mappers, more artists

There is a lot to do, and someone's gotta do it

a gerdoe 21-Jun-20 07:24 AM

and more money for main contributors

Dune 21-Jun-20 12:20 PM

@Mile tbh I think that's because I can't think of a better coop mod in teeworlds

pvp lacks the social element that makes most stick around

Skayland 21-Jun-20 07:21 PM

DTF destroy the flag, needs 4 teams, teams need their flag to respawn, if someone steals it (takes the flag to their own base) they wont respawn, that means flags wont respawn. Flags are destroyed, last team standing wins

just throwing random idea

gamemode also needs more ways to defend the flag

a gerdoe 21-Jun-20 07:22 PM

i think that idea was realesed

Skayland 21-Jun-20 07:23 PM

where

i dont even play 0.7 so i have no idea

a gerdoe 21-Jun-20 07:23 PM

in my sketchbook 2017 year xD

and it isnt random idea

Skayland 21-Jun-20 07:24 PM

its literally minecraft bedwars adapted to teeworlds

Stiopa 21-Jun-20 10:09 PM

before anyone jumps to conclusions

no, this is not a bug (or maybe it is, just not natural one)

and no, this is not photoshop or file editing. I made eyes disappear.

Zatline 21-Jun-20 10:23 PM

yikes

Dune 21-Jun-20 10:23 PM

yeah, this is colored eyes

there was an algorithm patched in to try to avoid those exploits

Stiopa 21-Jun-20 10:52 PM

@Dune nope, not that actually

not sure what the option is

cl_mouse_max_distance_static or something

Dune 21-Jun-20 10:52 PM

how does that change the look of your tee?

Stiopa 21-Jun-20 10:52 PM

it does wonky things when the value is <1

Dune 21-Jun-20 10:52 PM

ah

Stiopa 21-Jun-20 10:52 PM

at -10 it makes the eyes go from one side to another

in matter of ticks

then I changed it to -1000 the eyes vanished

& persisted until I restarted the client.

unfortunately, I was not able to reproduce it

that's why I didn't count it as a natural bug, nobody is going to be changing that value to <1 anyway ;p

Dune 21-Jun-20 10:53 PM

ah, that's just because the eyes keep blinking back and forth

need to clamp that value properly :)

Stiopa 21-Jun-20 10:54 PM

nooo, leave it be! it's amusing

Dune 21-Jun-20 10:54 PM

that's an annoying bug

Stiopa 21-Jun-20 10:54 PM

well... maybe you're right

still, I find it amusing, even if midly

me changing values in console and forgetting what the base value are is more problematic to me xP

jxsl13 22-Jun-20 01:35 AM

@Dune pls announce: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16595

Teeworlds 3vs3 ctf Cup (Page 1) — Community News — Teeworlds Forum

Teeworlds 3vs3 ctf Cup (Page 1) — Community News — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

@someone, please help him with an awesome banner.

aopst 22-Jun-20 02:00 AM

Joined the server.

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Dune 22-Jun-20 02:43 AM

@jxsl13 is roco here?

doesn't seem like it

jxsl13 22-Jun-20 02:52 AM

He's in the bombay discord, I told him that it would be good if he announced that here. Maybe he will join.

Naoki 22-Jun-20 09:49 AM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 22-Jun-20 12:56 PM

hmmmm...

I assume it is bots again... (edited)

Dune 22-Jun-20 12:59 PM

Yes, it's near daily so just use reports

Roco 22-Jun-20 04:51 PM

Joined the server.

ReiTW 22-Jun-20 04:52 PM

@Dune @jxsl13 there he is

@Roco

Roco 22-Jun-20 04:52 PM

Sup

heinrich5991 22-Jun-20 05:09 PM

@Roco it mentions two different challonge URLs, one is from a tournament in 2015(?)

Roco 22-Jun-20 05:40 PM

where do you see 2 urls?

ah i see

grimetone 22-Jun-20 06:04 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 22-Jun-20 06:04 PM

rj

jxsl13 22-Jun-20 08:19 PM

@Roco might as well ping @Dune to get an announcement in the announcements channel.

also, important question: 0.6 or 0.7

Dune 22-Jun-20 08:23 PM

@jxsl13 yeah, how did we not think about that

Roco 22-Jun-20 08:41 PM

0.7 ofc

or what would you say

is there a date when 0.7 with antiping will be rlsd?

jxsl13 22-Jun-20 09:07 PM

I actually mentioned this before chiller did, but in the Bombay discord(sadly someone deleted the evidence)! I was first >:O. And then ZillyChilly asked it in the forum :D. (edited)

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Dune 22-Jun-20 09:33 PM

@Roco there are no official efforts for that. There is https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2650 though

Add prediction for other players by Piepow · Pull Request #2650 · t...

Changes Add cl_predict_players option for predicting other players (off by default) Similar to antiping from DDNet client Hooks, nameplates, and flags are rendered using the predicted positions...

Arseniy Zarche 23-Jun-20 08:00 AM

yep nice

Roco 23-Jun-20 10:09 PM

https://discord.gg/MdPEMQ

! FoXi Tee 23-Jun-20 11:16 PM

What is #bridge ?

jxsl13 23-Jun-20 11:17 PM

irc <-> discord connection/channel

a gerdoe 24-Jun-20 01:05 AM

sorry for stupid question, but what is "snap"?

NightshadeEH 24-Jun-20 02:01 AM

I landed on the edge of the fng golden spikes when somebody tried to throw me in them xD

jxsl13 24-Jun-20 02:42 AM

You spent a whole life of karma on that one.

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a gerdoe 24-Jun-20 07:16 PM

@jxsl13 or add special field for modifications that use prefixes

jxsl13 24-Jun-20 07:18 PM

It would be cool if the server could send longer nicknames than a client can set in order to reserve some space for such prefixes. (edited)

why don't you ask for bridge access, @a gerdoe ?

a gerdoe 24-Jun-20 07:25 PM

i think i will look like stupid boy in the megabrain conversation

jxsl13 24-Jun-20 07:41 PM

that's the wrong way to think about it, I'd say: Just partake if you want and can. Maybe you will learn something or maybe people will like your ideas.

a gerdoe 24-Jun-20 07:44 PM

people like realization instead idea (edited)

and it must good realization

jxsl13 24-Jun-20 07:58 PM

nobody expects anything from you for being in the bridge channel.

D:

a gerdoe 24-Jun-20 09:54 PM

interesting

! FoXi Tee 24-Jun-20 09:56 PM

Dune 24-Jun-20 10:04 PM

what does this bot do?

! FoXi Tee 24-Jun-20 10:05 PM

Nice

a gerdoe 24-Jun-20 10:06 PM

@Dune just like masterservers checker

now their site down so i cant send all list of commands (edited)

heinrich5991 24-Jun-20 11:42 PM

@a gerdoe the bridge channel is just restricted because there were people spamming it

I added you, please abide by the rules @a gerdoe

a gerdoe 25-Jun-20 01:26 AM

oh, thanks

! FoXi Tee 25-Jun-20 11:21 AM

i need some help

who is good at ctf?

a gerdoe 25-Jun-20 01:55 PM

looks like Dune left server, sounds bad

heinrich5991 25-Jun-20 01:59 PM

Dune still on the server, just offline

a gerdoe 25-Jun-20 02:01 PM

hm, i couldn't see him in "mention" panel

Stiopa 25-Jun-20 02:07 PM

discord is faulty in that regard

delete a letter

and add the letter again

he will pop up after a bit

a gerdoe 25-Jun-20 02:08 PM

and i did see him in #bridge description as @invalid-user

Stiopa 25-Jun-20 02:08 PM

Learath2 25-Jun-20 02:12 PM

You can try restarting discord, it gets goofy sometimes

ok77 25-Jun-20 03:11 PM

Joined the server.

Incrementalt 25-Jun-20 05:16 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 25-Jun-20 05:16 PM

rj

ใบหยก'ก 25-Jun-20 06:26 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 25-Jun-20 06:28 PM

rj

LikableTester82 25-Jun-20 07:15 PM

@aisyx he didnt left

Roco 25-Jun-20 08:35 PM

sup

can you add the ctfcup discord?

cause signup is there

Dune 25-Jun-20 08:43 PM

you gave two different links for signup..

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Eva Gabunda 25-Jun-20 09:59 PM

Joined the server.

heollo

hello

anyone want to play ???

NicoMa 25-Jun-20 10:05 PM

Joined the server.

Obiwan 25-Jun-20 10:06 PM

Joined the server.

valkyrie76 25-Jun-20 10:10 PM

Joined the server.

is there a way to quickly hop through mid ?

Stiopa 25-Jun-20 10:15 PM

while at high horizontal velocity?

valkyrie76 25-Jun-20 10:20 PM

yes

a gerdoe 25-Jun-20 10:24 PM

Eva Gabunda 25-Jun-20 10:26 PM

Pls anyone want to play ???

@ιтz ChiaXx ✿ want to play ???

@a gerdoe want to play ??

@valkyrie76 want to play ?

a gerdoe 25-Jun-20 10:27 PM

im hacking on source, sry

ιтz ChiaXx ✿ 25-Jun-20 10:27 PM

@Eva Gabunda hello

Eva Gabunda 25-Jun-20 10:27 PM

'-'

wtf @a gerdoe

ιтz ChiaXx ✿ 25-Jun-20 10:27 PM

And Not Now Sorry I Can’t ;—-;

Eva Gabunda 25-Jun-20 10:27 PM

ok bye

@Greeen

want to play ???

valkyrie76 25-Jun-20 10:30 PM

im playing on zcatch beginner you can join us if you want

and its not a great idea to ping everyone

n000b 25-Jun-20 11:40 PM

And spam general*

Harlequin 26-Jun-20 05:09 PM

huh

V1nceManXD 26-Jun-20 09:57 PM

llol

Classicoke 26-Jun-20 10:45 PM

Joined the server.

Classicoke 27-Jun-20 11:29 PM

hallo

Harlequin 28-Jun-20 12:36 AM

uhm

jxsl13 28-Jun-20 02:46 AM

rj

Jennifer 28-Jun-20 05:46 AM

So is it normal for there to be 0 servers in the Teeworlds category? Only see any in the ~~App~~ All category (edited)

noby 28-Jun-20 06:16 AM

no

check ur filter settings

Jennifer 28-Jun-20 07:27 AM

~~Fresh install. Haven't played in years.~~ Fixed by wiping the configs folder (edited)

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 09:11 AM

I have some servers in a datacenter that are not using their full potential and I would like to offer them for use as Teeworlds servers for someone who wants a server of their own. With my servers you will get the best performance and reliability compared to a server in your home, and lots more bandwidth than you are likely to ever use

The difference between this and my commercial servers is that these free server will also be used for hosting a BBS or MUD for another user. If you are interested just go to https://TeeWorldFans.GamePlayer.club/HostSplash and choose the default plan and use "offline" payment method so you don't have to pay. I will get back to you shortly with your server info. Here's to Teeworlds fans!

noby 28-Jun-20 09:23 AM

40 gbits in?

how lol

@MarisaG are there tw servers currently up using this plan?

fokkonaut 28-Jun-20 09:40 AM

@noby click proceed to main website

there is a list i saw

Learath2 28-Jun-20 10:03 AM

I'd guess 40gbps shared between all servers

Or sign me up, I'll just resell the bandwidth

noby 28-Jun-20 10:04 AM

there are only two srvs on list

so twenty gbits per srv, still insane

Learath2 28-Jun-20 10:10 AM

Maybe 40g for his entire set of servers in that datacenter? Or maybe 40g for the entire datacenter?

I've been looking for a dedicated 10g line for ddnet for a while now and those things are not coming cheaper then 1k€ a month

noby 28-Jun-20 10:11 AM

yeaah thats why i wondered

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 11:25 AM

Hiya @noby Yes I run several of my own.

The bandwidth I say is not shared between servers

Each server gets its own alotment

Obviously things like the muds or bbs's on that server share the bandwidth for that server, but they are not very resource-intensive

And im offering for free so you can always try it out

a gerdoe 28-Jun-20 11:37 AM

it must be super mod to take that offer

like 128 ppl with 0.6/0.7 compatible

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 11:38 AM

Not sure, I have only played a couple games. Might not support 128, no idea

My hobby is offering game servers

noby 28-Jun-20 11:38 AM

how do u allow 40gbits down for so cheap?

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 11:38 AM

That is just what the hosting company linode offers

They do have a $5 plan, but it is not as good, obviously

noby 28-Jun-20 11:39 AM

im curious what a speedtest from one of these connections looks like

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 11:39 AM

You can try one of mine and see it

a gerdoe 28-Jun-20 11:39 AM

xd

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 11:40 AM

i would be interested to know as well

noby 28-Jun-20 11:41 AM

try it lol

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 11:41 AM

I wouldnt know how to test it

I've played on it, and never saw any issue, but I live near the datacenter it was on

There are like 10 different datacenters to choose from

noby 28-Jun-20 11:51 AM

https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli

sivel/speedtest-cli

Command line interface for testing internet bandwidth using speedtest.net - sivel/speedtest-cli

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 11:52 AM

Hmm, let me see what I can do with that

I'll check the dallas datacetner

Is this what you were looking for?

I was testing the dallas server from my home here is fremont CA

noby 28-Jun-20 12:06 PM

hmm

its definitely good; not 40gbits, although maybe this speedtest doesnt go that high either

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:07 PM

who knows

noby 28-Jun-20 12:07 PM

idk

how did u measure 40

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:07 PM

I took their word for it lol

That is what they claim for that subscription plan

noby 28-Jun-20 12:07 PM

iiwy i would try to verify it somehow

by looking for other speedtest services that can go higher

http://speedtest.tele2.net/100GB.zip

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:08 PM

ok will give it a try

noby 28-Jun-20 12:08 PM

download this and do vnstat -l after lik a minute

(then kill the download after uve got speed)

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:10 PM

where do I find vnstat? Its not on my servers

noby 28-Jun-20 12:10 PM

install it

apt-get install vnstat

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:10 PM

ah lol ok

noby 28-Jun-20 12:11 PM

it is a useful thing to have on server anyway

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:16 PM

This was many times less than the first one:

I think a play-test is the best way to analyze it

noby 28-Jun-20 12:17 PM

that doesnt seem right, huh

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:17 PM

I know my Alien Arena servers get good marks from players near the relevant datacenter

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:17 PM

You can't actually measure a 40g link unless you have another 40g link

(edited)

noby 28-Jun-20 12:17 PM

tbh i dont know the best way to

yeah

that^ lol

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:18 PM

lol yep

noby 28-Jun-20 12:18 PM

send a file from one of ur servers to another one

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:19 PM

won't work, datacenters have even larger links for internal transfers

noby 28-Jun-20 12:19 PM

i assumed differnt servers = different cities

or would that still be a problem

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:19 PM

In my case they do exist on different datacenters

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:19 PM

as far as I'm aware linode offers shared servers

you can get dedicated cpu cores, dedicated ram, storage but as far as I'm aware, you'll be sharing the network

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:20 PM

Yes those stats are what linode claims to offer

I've always believed it

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:22 PM

I wonder how much of that they let you use, if they don't limit per client bandwidth it might be a great idea to move to linode

noby 28-Jun-20 12:23 PM

try iperf or something

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:24 PM

honestly, I'm not even sure the software stack they run can put out the 40g out of the virtual machine to the hypervisor and then to the network

noby 28-Jun-20 12:24 PM

maybe it only applies to root servers?

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:25 PM

There is some shared resources, for example the monthly total data transferred

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:25 PM

Linode is one of those future is cloud hosters, they give you very low level virtualized slices

They can even give you dedicated cpu cores, digitalocean also offers the same kind of hosting

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:25 PM

But looking at it you would have a hard time hitting that limit as I spend $1100 a month on hosting so the pool is very large

And I run some torrent servers, and still never come close to running out

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:27 PM

huh, is linode torrent friendly?

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:28 PM

Never given me any reason to not think so. I think as long as each server doesn't exceed their alotment you are free to use your bandwidth as you see fit. I host legal torrents, so there are no copyright issues

noby 28-Jun-20 12:29 PM

oo i used to have digitalocean

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:29 PM

This is very interesting, I might get a linode to test for ddnet GER2 for the next round of tests

I mean the teeworlds networking stack is far from handling 40gbps but still, it'd be nice to not worry about the link speed while working on it

I wonder how long it'd take for them to boot us off their network if we get ddos

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:31 PM

They switched to using a get-it-first, then-pay-later service now

You used to have to pay first, then use it

noby 28-Jun-20 12:31 PM

do they nullroute

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:32 PM

Makes it easy to spin one up for testing, then shut it down when you don't need it anymore

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:32 PM

@noby now that'd be a buzzkill

noby 28-Jun-20 12:32 PM

yes thats why i stopped using digitalocean

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:33 PM

you have 40gbps, but if you use more then a certain amount, we'll nullroute you would be the scummiest marketing tactic ever

noby 28-Jun-20 12:33 PM

hahahah

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:33 PM

lol no as far as I know they dont do that

Ive been using linode since 2012 or so

noby 28-Jun-20 12:34 PM

whats the fastest data transfer uve personally seen on one of the servers

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:34 PM

They never gave me any trouble, even when I was unknowinglyu hosting sony psp games

Never measured it till today

I just had to remove the offending files

I ended up shutting down that whole linode

Learath2 28-Jun-20 12:35 PM

the only way you get to measure something like that would be to download a large very well seeded torrent

with hetzners very unsatisfactory peerings, I can usually get around 85MB/s on my gbit link

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MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:42 PM

Ive seen more than 125MB/s on some of my servers that are running transmission

Dune 28-Jun-20 12:56 PM

it's not like bandwidth is so critical for simple teeworlds servers, is it?

MarisaG 28-Jun-20 12:56 PM

i wouldn't think so

while it may use more than a bbs or mud, odds are you wont come near hitting the limit

noby 28-Jun-20 01:04 PM

@Dune idk, ddos on teeworlds is pretty common, it might help to host on a server where the link wont be able to be saturated by any of the common attacks

Dune 28-Jun-20 01:04 PM

I guess

Stiopa 28-Jun-20 01:09 PM

is there an issue for official servers?

noby 28-Jun-20 01:09 PM

because almost all of the attacks i see that spoof ips and use tw protocol are under 1gbit/s

because they are all probably coming from a single server with a 1gbit link

so 40gbits would be an advantage here

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:10 PM

the bandwidth is useless to down a server, simulating the protocol is enough to saturate the cpu

noby 28-Jun-20 01:10 PM

it depends where the packets get intercepted

if they reach the tw server definitely

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:10 PM

afterall some shit like this got fixed on 0.7

noby 28-Jun-20 01:10 PM

if they are blocked by a firewall or even iptables it might make a diference

well 0.7 fixed the reflection attacks atl east

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:11 PM

@noby yes but remember on 0.6 you can't really filter like that, overwise you could hide the server or not allow people to join

noby 28-Jun-20 01:11 PM

mm

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:11 PM

on 0.7 it's much easier

noby 28-Jun-20 01:11 PM

yeah requiring 500byte packet to do inforequest was a good thing i suppose

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:12 PM

there's a token check

also

noby 28-Jun-20 01:12 PM

yes but ive found

that generating the token itself is sometimes a bottlneck

and with 0.7 masters, u have to use the md5 stuff, or it wont work

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:12 PM

the way the networking is set up, it can't quite handle this insane amount of traffic, doesn't quite matter what part of the protocol you are abusing

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:13 PM

@Learath2 I just meant by that that even a guy with an adsl could make lag a 0.6 server

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:13 PM

I highly doubt that

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:13 PM

well not rly adsl, lets say vdsl2+

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:13 PM

I don't think a 10mbps attack is interesting either

noby 28-Jun-20 01:13 PM

if they could spoof maybe

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:14 PM

@Learath2 well i'm not lying

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:14 PM

not vulnerable to spoofing anymore either

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:14 PM

noby could tell that too, he remembers this shitty host nfoservers

when vali was taking us down with 10mbps

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:14 PM

we regularly get 10mbps, it's rarely an issue

noby 28-Jun-20 01:14 PM

i never used nfo servers, but i do remember my old fng servers with 0 optimizations to the netcode on a server with no firewall or ddos protection and 10mbits would lag it

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:15 PM

bombay was on nfo at the start, when I joined the clan

noby 28-Jun-20 01:15 PM

the optimizations in code made the servers withstand up to ~100-200mbits

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:16 PM

we already have fixes for most of these, we don't maintain state for early connections, we don't respond with full serverinfo if it's getting flooded, we cache the serverinfo so it doesn't cause exponential cpu usage

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:16 PM

that's why for me it's stupid to make 0.6 + 0.7 protocol when you still have some noobs trying to attack multiple servers on 0.6 side

@Learath2 yes we do that too

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:17 PM

the 0.6 protocol is not much more vulnerable then the 0.7 protocol, we just lack the large token request to prevent reflection, instead we keep the reflection ratio down by sending small serverinfo

noby 28-Jun-20 01:17 PM

i guess that also makes inforequest floods less effective

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:17 PM

it is more than the 0.7 one

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:17 PM

more what?

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:17 PM

vulnerable

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:18 PM

the reflection ratio, yes, if it is actually vulnerable, create a github issue or if you think it's critical, let us know in private

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:18 PM

we also started since a long time to move on eBPF to filter some useless packets

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:20 PM

the fact of the matter is that the networking stack can only handle so much packets per second, which scales with core count and the networking code itself can handle only so many packets without lagging being in the same loop as the gameserver

noby 28-Jun-20 01:21 PM

i think the idea is to filter out as much as possible before it ever even reaches userspace

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:21 PM

exactly, if it gets to the teeworlds network code, you are pretty much already fucked

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:21 PM

yep

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:21 PM

that's why most modern "game anti ddos" solutions rely on hardware firewalls specifically optimized to drop packets based on rules made for the game

redix 28-Jun-20 01:21 PM

In some cases the host even limits the number of packets per second, no matter how high the bandwidth is

And the technology used for network virtualization also matters

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:22 PM

@redix +1

but well for that case..

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:23 PM

afaik, arbor can even keep state nowadays, you can teach it your protocol and it knows when a client has established connection to your server, after that, no filtering for that ip

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:23 PM

ovh's brain: "block all packets with same data", "let pass all packets with same data + one random byte"

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:24 PM

@redix if you want to actually perform under large ddos, I don't really think even the slimmer virtualisation options are workable anymore

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:25 PM

@Learath2 well stateful connections are one way to filter some attacks on teeworlds if it is done correctly

pretty sure if tw had a tcp socket for session then an udp one for ingame data, things would be much better

redix 28-Jun-20 01:27 PM

I'm not sure about that. See things like SR-IOV. But you often need special drivers and an optimized network stack for this

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:27 PM

I did work on a branch like this, having a separate control connection over tcp would indeed help a lot

the network code proved too intertwined for me

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:28 PM

yah that's a lot after behind

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:30 PM

a connection socket that is on a separate thread with a core dedicated to it that's as barebones as possible would be what I go for

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:31 PM

yap, for me that's way better than the actual way to go

Learath2 28-Jun-20 01:32 PM

could even have the connection thread interact with the firewall, e.g. only allow people who went through the connection process to contact the actual gameserver

ReiTW 28-Jun-20 01:33 PM

would be easy to make a fw for that on kernel space

+ yah communicating with userspace

! FoXi Tee 28-Jun-20 10:44 PM

Whitch is the max velspeed?

Cause if u press ctrl + shift + D you can see in top right a value named velspeed

Dune 29-Jun-20 01:39 AM

you mean ground max speed?

f1 -> dbg_tuning 1 should give more detail to default tunings

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Boti. 29-Jun-20 07:58 AM

Joined the server.

Noxes 29-Jun-20 10:01 AM

Joined the server.

ayyy

bleech 29-Jun-20 10:03 AM

Joined the server.

Sonix 29-Jun-20 10:41 AM

Rj

MarisaG 29-Jun-20 10:44 AM

Still have my free server available - PM me if interested...

Dune 29-Jun-20 01:47 PM

To be honest, I don't think there is a large need for more servers atm

It is generous, though

Stiopa 29-Jun-20 01:48 PM

there is a more of a need for people to fill the servers though

if your services include a free billboard on some american highway then you might get more attention xP

Dune 29-Jun-20 01:50 PM

well, most servers are on EU and americans struggle with ping iirc (edited)

Learath2 29-Jun-20 01:51 PM

we host a couple USA servers but we don't get much traction on those either

Stiopa 29-Jun-20 01:51 PM

yep. though there are some american servers, aren't there? I always felt it was more of an issue of American community not being able to foster enough people to run larger games

or there might not be a recognizeable american server that people flock to

in Europe, that server is Chiller Dragon's CTF by all means

NebulaGrey 29-Jun-20 06:26 PM

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Roco 30-Jun-20 12:16 AM

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5qasj4rvIYpDLeoUDxVz-A/?guided_help_flow=5&disable_polymer=true

Roco

Welcome to my official channel from 2020. My name is Roco and i play games like Teeworlds, Counter Strike Global Offensive, Fortnite and Warzone. I lost my a...

my new youtube channel

Deleted User 30-Jun-20 03:29 PM

Shiro. 30-Jun-20 04:11 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 30-Jun-20 04:13 PM

rj

Deleted User 30-Jun-20 11:59 PM

a

! FoXi Tee 01-Jul-20 09:44 AM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Deleted User 01-Jul-20 03:48 PM

Joined the server.

NikiRaw 01-Jul-20 05:26 PM

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thestyxcode 01-Jul-20 06:00 PM

i got sub 5 seconds on speed cap in ctf5 pog

Deleted User 01-Jul-20 07:21 PM

Joined the server.

Souly 03-Jul-20 12:21 PM

i made few more marking and i trough i would share it here

Hostile 03-Jul-20 11:19 PM

Joined the server.

Skayland 04-Jul-20 03:05 AM

That looks like just circles, am i missing something?

a gerdoe 04-Jul-20 03:06 AM

it is xd

einfachsoultramegalostSergej 04-Jul-20 09:54 AM

Joined the server.

Souly 04-Jul-20 11:26 AM

ye literal circles

im surprised that noone did that ealier

imagine having half blue and half red tee

Assa 04-Jul-20 02:41 PM

imagine rotatable markings

the full circle is useless tho

well, mostly

Souly 04-Jul-20 06:18 PM

you can use that full circle as template

Souly 04-Jul-20 06:32 PM

okay, i made more XD

Attachment: circles.zip (27.52 KB)

have fun

Zam 05-Jul-20 07:14 AM

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Hackermon 05-Jul-20 10:45 PM

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helo

@Learath2 Can i talk to you

or @jao

cybe 05-Jul-20 10:47 PM

Joined the server.

Killedgxd 05-Jul-20 10:47 PM

Joined the server.

Hackermon 05-Jul-20 10:47 PM

hi

cybe 05-Jul-20 10:47 PM

dude

why you guys log your messages xd

Hackermon 05-Jul-20 10:48 PM

yea

jao 05-Jul-20 10:51 PM

about what

cybe 05-Jul-20 10:53 PM

lmao you guys log messages

https://ddnet.tw/irclogs/2020-07-05.log

a gerdoe 05-Jul-20 10:54 PM

in those logs i found answer for my question lok

lol

its not just chat where you are talking about shit

cybe 05-Jul-20 10:55 PM

lmao

Learath2 05-Jul-20 10:56 PM

I think everyone that speaks in that channel regularly knows that it's logged. We use it to refer to past happenings usually

+ discord also logs it

Dune 05-Jul-20 10:56 PM

anything said on an IRC channel should be assumed public unless you know everyone there

cybe 05-Jul-20 10:57 PM

discord needs to log them, because when you enter that channel again, so it can show you the messages you missed

Learath2 05-Jul-20 10:57 PM

It's #developer on the ddnet discord btw, linked with #ddnet in quakenet and #ddnet in freenode. All three are logged there

cybe 05-Jul-20 10:58 PM

btw, why you guys log messages?

Learath2 05-Jul-20 10:58 PM

Usually so that we can refer to things later

cybe 05-Jul-20 10:59 PM

you can search messages on discord too

Learath2 05-Jul-20 10:59 PM

E.g. there was an issue with the client refusing to get into game, and I remembered talking about the snap handling a couple months prior, so a quick look at the logs and I found what I needed

cybe 05-Jul-20 10:59 PM

oh

ok

Learath2 05-Jul-20 10:59 PM

Yeah with discord there the the old irclogs aren't as useful as they used to be

cybe 05-Jul-20 11:00 PM

by the way, how old is your discord account?

we saw your messages from 2018

jao 05-Jul-20 11:02 PM

mine is from 2016

cybe 05-Jul-20 11:02 PM

nice

older than my account

Learath2 05-Jul-20 11:02 PM

The irclogs start way before the discord server btw

it was initially for the ddnet irc on quakenet

cybe 05-Jul-20 11:03 PM

we found them by just searching dorks lmao

Learath2 05-Jul-20 11:03 PM

now that I think about it, we should probably add a robots.txt to ddnet.tw so google doesn't index the logs

cybe 05-Jul-20 11:03 PM

does it stops the dorks?

we didn't just searched a normal thing

you know, dorks shows the whole thing

in that database

now that I think about it, we should probably add a robots.txt to ddnet.tw so google doesn't index the logs

@Learath2 I think robots.txt doesn't stops the dorks

Learath2 05-Jul-20 11:05 PM

It doesn't stop anyone per se, but it's something google respects while showing search results afaik

cybe 05-Jul-20 11:05 PM

lmao, as I said, its not a normal search

you cant just type "logs" and wait for it to find you logs

there are techniques google has made

its not dork

Learath2 05-Jul-20 11:08 PM

You can normally search for our irclogs too, as I said, it's not really something secret

a gerdoe 05-Jul-20 11:09 PM

inurl:"/irclogs/ddnet" ext:log lmao

also 1 result xd

Learath2 05-Jul-20 11:09 PM

site:https://ddnet.tw/irclogs learath2

So nostalgic seeing the ones from 2016

a gerdoe 05-Jul-20 11:11 PM

i found my friend xd

killerGT 05-Jul-20 11:38 PM

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StrangeUniverseArtist 06-Jul-20 03:02 AM

Joined the server.

Roco 06-Jul-20 01:30 PM

How do i turn chat off in tournmaent

in 0.7 i mean

redix 06-Jul-20 02:10 PM

I don't think such an option exists. You need a modded server

Well there is: sv_tournament_mode 2 at least prevents spectators from using the public chat

Ryozuki 06-Jul-20 05:38 PM

2015 account

Mael 乡, 06-Jul-20 07:15 PM

Joined the server.

mouzedrift 06-Jul-20 08:26 PM

Joined the server.

𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐎 𝛙 07-Jul-20 12:21 AM

Joined the server.

heinrich5991 07-Jul-20 12:23 AM

this server is english only

Naoki 07-Jul-20 12:43 AM

Yeah i think so

GoJE GrEEN ! 07-Jul-20 07:20 AM

Joined the server.

ok77 07-Jul-20 01:45 PM

i think we all know

Trafalgar Law 07-Jul-20 08:09 PM

My srv lost the master srv connection and even after a srv restart the srv can't connect with the master srv

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SOS

ChRIstMas`iPro 07-Jul-20 10:23 PM

Anyone know how I can get an old map I made for 0.6 Versions up to 0.7 for a server?

my server just spits out that it failed to load the map

Patiga 07-Jul-20 10:31 PM

opening it in the 0.7 editor and saving it there should be enough

ChRIstMas`iPro 07-Jul-20 10:52 PM

hmm ok

Stiopa 08-Jul-20 12:29 AM

did I already pitch a talk about tw revival previously? (edited)

if not, I am doing it right now

Stiopa 08-Jul-20 01:40 AM

yay.

Texas.C 08-Jul-20 09:30 AM

Joined the server.

MaCRoYale 08-Jul-20 11:54 AM

I have a question. So youknow how on law's ddrace collection server they have been forgetting quite a few times/scores/points. Will they ever come back?

Trafalgar Law 08-Jul-20 11:59 AM

What do you mean?

What happend

What 08-Jul-20 12:16 PM

i think y'all re-entered the scores manually but for some time they were reset

2 weeks ago i think? (edited)

jxsl13 08-Jul-20 12:28 PM

Yesterday I needed like 20 refreshes and the help of another player to find Law's Multimap server. I had on every refresh a different set of results.

Trafalgar Law 08-Jul-20 12:28 PM

Yea I don't know what is happening atm, maybe someone attacks the port

@What yea we lost scores, because our backup bot crashed (edited)

MaCRoYale 08-Jul-20 12:42 PM

so theyre just gone @Trafalgar Law

most of my hard maps have gone

cuz ive done them recently

@What nah my scores are still gone

well some of them

the newest ones that ive done have gone

Trafalgar Law 08-Jul-20 12:56 PM

Yea they are sadly gone

MaCRoYale 08-Jul-20 01:14 PM

wow

why? 08-Jul-20 01:14 PM

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Deleted User 08-Jul-20 01:55 PM

Joined the server.

hello

just recently started playing Teeworlds again

such a good game

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jxsl13 08-Jul-20 01:59 PM

rj

heinrich5991 08-Jul-20 01:59 PM

hi

cool that you're playing again

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 02:27 PM

hello. why banned heinrich5991: faking jxsl13's "Simply zCatch Grenade"?

heinrich5991 08-Jul-20 02:27 PM

is that your server?

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 02:28 PM

no, but I'm interested

heinrich5991 08-Jul-20 02:28 PM

because jxsl13 asked us to do this and we couldn't contact the server owner

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 02:29 PM

he wrote to you on the forum

heinrich5991 08-Jul-20 02:34 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=127536#p127536

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 02:36 PM

it was named "Simply zCatch Grenade"?

heinrich5991 08-Jul-20 02:36 PM

yes

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 02:36 PM

xd okay

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 02:44 PM

I think you need to adjust the with rules bans. Since the ban did not under the rules Report

heinrich5991 08-Jul-20 02:47 PM

I checked that "Simply zCatch Grenade" is not a default name in any mod

Dune 08-Jul-20 02:50 PM

@Deleted User it's not just the name, it mirrored every config in a way that is most likely malicious, as to mislead people looking for his server. We're very reluctant to put out these bans in general

ReiTW 08-Jul-20 02:52 PM

@Trafalgar Law if you're having 0.6 & 0.7, someone is attacking a lot of servers at once

probably why your small srv is out

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 02:59 PM

@Dune I just mean that the person knowing the rules was at a loss for the reason for the ban. So-same and I having looked his complaint. What caused the opinion that Teeworlds is already a children's game of several developers

ReiTW 08-Jul-20 03:05 PM

@Trafalgar Law

better pic

fokkonaut 08-Jul-20 03:28 PM

Not the first time that servers get copied (complete server info got mirrored)

Dune 08-Jul-20 07:28 PM

@Deleted User I'm sorry, I don't understand your message. Could you rephrase it?

Naoki 08-Jul-20 07:51 PM

Big Teeworlds DoS :<

More and more servers

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 08:07 PM

mislead

a gerdoe 08-Jul-20 08:20 PM

@Deleted User чё ты им сказать хотел хд (edited)

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 08:21 PM

mafia he writed with russian, ban him!!

a gerdoe 08-Jul-20 08:21 PM

we talked like that 2 months ago with Terrorka

xd

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 08:23 PM

The ban did not comply with more than one point of the rules. So I was wondering if this is corruption XD

a gerdoe 08-Jul-20 08:26 PM

heinrich got $5991 from me, no corruption xd

Deleted User 08-Jul-20 08:58 PM

yes ;D (edited)

ChRIstMas`iPro 08-Jul-20 09:10 PM

uhh

What server files do i need to use to run a ddrace/blocker server

If i try to run one of those maps with stock teeworlds, it just gives me this error

the map file loads normally in the editor on the same version

Stiopa 08-Jul-20 09:14 PM

do u actually have the map, or is it downloaded only

ChRIstMas`iPro 08-Jul-20 09:14 PM

I do have the map, it was one I made at the start of 2019

but, well, I made it in the DDnet editor

but I get the same error when i try to run it off of ddnet server

Any idea what might be causing it?

a gerdoe 08-Jul-20 09:50 PM

i think those questions will be most answerable (?xd) in ddnet's discord server (edited)

ReiTW 08-Jul-20 10:21 PM

@a gerdoe same there

@ChRIstMas`iPro w

windows or linux

ChRIstMas`iPro 08-Jul-20 10:35 PM

Linux

@ReiTW

ReiTW 08-Jul-20 10:37 PM

well try to place the map on ~/.teeworlds/maps folder or directly in data/maps

ChRIstMas`iPro 08-Jul-20 10:37 PM

Tried both

Didn't load

ReiTW 08-Jul-20 10:38 PM

heh

ChRIstMas`iPro 08-Jul-20 10:38 PM

hm

ReiTW 08-Jul-20 10:38 PM

are you sure the user is correct

ChRIstMas`iPro 08-Jul-20 10:38 PM

what user

ReiTW 08-Jul-20 10:38 PM

like, are u trying to run it through root when the folder is in a simple user dir

ChRIstMas`iPro 08-Jul-20 10:38 PM

Oh, ye I'm in root on my vps

Im not on pc atm

I'll look it up tomorrow

And propably move to the ddnet discord

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:24 PM

Joined the server.

hi

Stiopa 08-Jul-20 11:25 PM

rj

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:25 PM

is there anyone here who want to do moderate map with me ? ^^

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:26 PM

Joined the server.

hi

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:27 PM

hi

do u want to play a map with me ? :p @bentt

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:28 PM

ok

im french

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:28 PM

pareil

parfait

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:28 PM

quoi

cool

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:28 PM

amene toi aha

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:29 PM

ou

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:29 PM

vocal ^^

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:29 PM

deso vocal pas

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:29 PM

?

t'as pas de mic ?

je suppose que si vu que ton clavier je l'entendais

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:30 PM

si

mais il est 23h30

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:30 PM

okey

join une map et donne l'ip jte rejoins

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:30 PM

ok

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:30 PM

rejoins un serv vide comme ca tu met la map que tu veux

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:31 PM

solo ou avec des gens ?

ok

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:31 PM

on fait moderate ou brutale pas trop dure aha

Learath2 08-Jul-20 11:31 PM

parlez anglais, yes?

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:31 PM

yes

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:31 PM

yup

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:31 PM

but we is french

Learath2 08-Jul-20 11:32 PM

c'est very illegal to talk français a #general

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:32 PM

we are both french but i talk fluently english

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:32 PM

XD

met le link

jsp comment on fait

Learath2 08-Jul-20 11:33 PM

I tell u is illegal, you keep doing it. Je suis bcp disappoint

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:33 PM

95.172.92.151:8320

tu met ca dans addresse hote

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:33 PM

ok

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:34 PM

@Learath2 so sorry bro but he's not as confident as i am with english so it is easier for him

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:35 PM

je suis solo

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:35 PM

Joined the server.

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:36 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 08-Jul-20 11:36 PM

@AlphA @bentt rule 2

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:36 PM

what happened ?

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:36 PM

?

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:36 PM

oh key

^^

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:36 PM

ya quoi

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:36 PM

don't speak french

^^

its in the rules

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:36 PM

ok

Learath2 08-Jul-20 11:37 PM

Exactly, c'est in the rules

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:37 PM

its raciste no ?

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:37 PM

so @bentt take the numbers i gave you and put it in "addresse hote"

Dune 08-Jul-20 11:37 PM

PMs are allowed

(edited)

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:37 PM

nope its not its just for everyone to understand ^^

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:37 PM

and my english is bad

small

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:38 PM

@Dune my bad ^^ sorry for that

Dune 08-Jul-20 11:38 PM

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:38 PM

??

what

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:38 PM

private message

bentt 08-Jul-20 11:38 PM

ok

Learath2 08-Jul-20 11:39 PM

@Dune maybe we should get a channel where we don't care about the language?

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:39 PM

nope

Learath2 08-Jul-20 11:39 PM

I guess it can't be moderated then, but do we really need to?

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:39 PM

theres no point with that

Dune 08-Jul-20 11:39 PM

@Learath2 maybe yeah, but then we can't moderate, which sucks

I think other discords have channels per language

I don't know if we're big enough to do that though

and it requires specific moderators, doesn't it

until now it feels like people joined specific communities

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:40 PM

@Dune nope the discord is too small and you would need more admins ^^

Learath2 08-Jul-20 11:40 PM

inb4 someone hatches a terrorist plot in our unmoderated channel and we are all court martial'd

Dune 08-Jul-20 11:40 PM

gotta encrypt teeworlds chat qucik

I mean, we could have channels for gametypes etc. but I feel like people prefer to have their communities in a discord of their own, which makes sense

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:43 PM

that's kinda true

Stiopa 08-Jul-20 11:49 PM

eh. chats without moderation don't sound like a good idea. but I am all in for more chats.

#questions? #screenshots? but then again. are they really needed? it's not like #general is overflowing

AlphA 08-Jul-20 11:52 PM

no aha

Learath2 08-Jul-20 11:57 PM

Yeah general is fine, I just find it's always an issue with people that speak another language and it's not always trivial to help them if we are to keep this channel to english at all times

Dune 09-Jul-20 12:03 AM

good luck finding a russian mod that speaks fluent english :D (edited)

Deleted User 09-Jul-20 12:24 AM

a

a gerdoe 09-Jul-20 10:25 AM

xd

Xenon 09-Jul-20 12:32 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 09-Jul-20 02:17 PM

rj

fokkonaut 09-Jul-20 02:18 PM

F-Client 2.8 is out now! Added smooth zoom and show distance, never have to use /showall anymore on DDNet bridge servers or on fokkonaut's playground https://fokkonaut.github.io/F-Client

Learath2 09-Jul-20 02:38 PM

(unless you want to record a demo with every tee in it)

Deleted User 09-Jul-20 02:41 PM

how common are cheaters in teeworlds? i sometimed see some people who are insanely good and spin around a lot

wondering if theyre just really good or cheating :0 (edited)

Dune 09-Jul-20 02:42 PM

probably good

Deleted User 09-Jul-20 02:42 PM

i guess

at the end of the day it doesnt make much difference

becos even if they were cheating it doesnt ruin the game

Dune 09-Jul-20 02:44 PM

well it does, it's just not "spinning" cheating

Iman 09-Jul-20 03:10 PM

my 0.7 gamer client crash when i preshot a grenade on the other colour spawn and i change team before the nade reaches the ground, is it a known bug ?

works only when i do that from red team to blue team

otherwise it just kill me

and it display that a small white pixel killed me in the kill feed

Tonixe 09-Jul-20 03:17 PM

lol

Dune 09-Jul-20 03:18 PM

lol, never heard of this, thanks

Skayland 09-Jul-20 03:19 PM

Lol

Me neither

Can someone reproduce it?

Iman 09-Jul-20 03:22 PM

it was on a gctf server

assa's mod

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 09-Jul-20 03:26 PM

Joined the server.

Iman 09-Jul-20 03:31 PM

works same way in vani

if u time ur grenades to kill urself

Dune 09-Jul-20 03:37 PM

sounds like a vanilla issue

Iman 09-Jul-20 03:40 PM

f-client seems to be fine with that self-killing thing

but i didnt restarted the server b4 the test

Dune 09-Jul-20 03:44 PM

ah, then I'll be wrong

Iman 09-Jul-20 03:44 PM

vani client is fine with that too, i'll test with a server restart

y vani client is fine with the self-kill thing even with the restart

gamer client crashes when its a self kill from red to blue but it's fine when it's from blue to red it displays a white point as killer in kill feed

and other clients don't crash, they display the same white pixel thing in the kill feed

Dune 09-Jul-20 03:51 PM

thanks!

Iman 09-Jul-20 03:55 PM

ah and my gamer client is the version 5.6.1 for windows 64

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noby 09-Jul-20 07:08 PM

[7:41 AM] bubba2k: how common are cheaters in teeworlds? i sometimed see some people who are insanely good and spin around a lot @Deleted User depends which mode

but its an old open source game, there will always be a chance of cheaters

some servers have protection against some kinds of cheats, some gametypes are easier to cheat on, it rly just depends

Stiopa 09-Jul-20 07:10 PM

most of people who spin are probably just good though

unless their spin is of constant speed. just look for unnatural spinning

ReiTW 09-Jul-20 07:13 PM

@noby nobbot-client.exe

noby 09-Jul-20 07:14 PM

.exe

ye watch out for anyone using ath client theyre probably cheating

ReiTW 09-Jul-20 07:14 PM

:v)

noby 09-Jul-20 07:15 PM

lol

NanoK 09-Jul-20 08:04 PM

hola

quien esta en blocker

Stiopa 09-Jul-20 08:09 PM

Englando

Dune 09-Jul-20 08:13 PM

@NanoK english only

StrangeUniverseArtist 10-Jul-20 12:07 AM

Can I have irc bridge access thx

Assa 10-Jul-20 12:30 PM

@Dune @Iman that was a known bug in 0.7 vanilla, which got fixed, are you missing a commit?

It shouldn't have anything to do with the server-mod (edited)

Iman 10-Jul-20 12:36 PM

fun fact if u do the bug from red to blue (to get the crash) and u manage to self kill while holding the red flag it instantly get back to the red base

Dune 10-Jul-20 01:02 PM

@Assa then it's just been too long I didn't rebase

jxsl13 10-Jul-20 01:22 PM

nheir fixed that iirc

Stiopa 10-Jul-20 02:07 PM

anyone suggested an "AFK" icon to turn on and off? (edited)

Dune 10-Jul-20 02:34 PM

If you are afk, spectate. The afk features in Teeworlds autospectate or autokick players

noby 10-Jul-20 02:55 PM

afk autokick is nice feature

fokkonaut 10-Jul-20 02:55 PM

xd

offensive

noby 10-Jul-20 02:55 PM

no

fokkonaut 10-Jul-20 02:56 PM

move to spec and then if players want to join when its full afks get kicked from spec

that would be best

noby 10-Jul-20 02:56 PM

its rly hard to tell if a spectator is afk or not

fokkonaut 10-Jul-20 02:56 PM

nah

yea

idk

Dune 10-Jul-20 03:16 PM

good point

Stiopa 10-Jul-20 04:09 PM

yeah

^^

exactly what noby said

in competetive it is sometimes really hard to judge

murpi 10-Jul-20 08:01 PM

Joined the server.

noby 10-Jul-20 08:02 PM

@heinrich5991 someone is faking ddnet servers

murpi 10-Jul-20 08:03 PM

^ I was baited to this server twice

noby 10-Jul-20 08:03 PM

nobo

murpi 10-Jul-20 08:03 PM

u

noby 10-Jul-20 08:03 PM

lol

yāccreフレシュマイボイ 10-Jul-20 09:00 PM

Joined the server.

Matrix1997 10-Jul-20 09:04 PM

Joined the server.

heinrich5991 10-Jul-20 09:35 PM

@noby thanks, banned

noby 10-Jul-20 09:36 PM

:D

a gerdoe 10-Jul-20 09:37 PM

ezz

new masterban for years

Dune 10-Jul-20 10:57 PM

@redix hoho

redix 10-Jul-20 10:58 PM

nothing really new :D lies around since last year

Dune 10-Jul-20 10:58 PM

still!

redix 10-Jul-20 10:59 PM

It's basically the same as #2650 + really buggy projectile prediction

Iman 10-Jul-20 11:05 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nutu8QDByE what is the thing we can see in front of the grenade multiple times in the vid ?

TeeworldsRush

Teeworlds - Rush 4 (Last run)

Enjoy and leave comments :) First song : A Day To Remember "Have Faith In Me" Sing-A-Long Version!

we can see it at 29 secs

if u slow down the time

or use the . and , shortcuts to go one frame forward or backward

Alexander_ 10-Jul-20 11:53 PM

hacks

Dune 11-Jul-20 12:33 AM

probably a modification @Iman

Iman 11-Jul-20 12:34 AM

wdym ?

Dune 11-Jul-20 12:34 AM

it is probably caused by a modification

Iman 11-Jul-20 12:35 AM

a client modification ?

Dune 11-Jul-20 12:35 AM

or server, idk

Iman 11-Jul-20 12:35 AM

ok

Dune 11-Jul-20 12:41 AM

anyone wants more bans?

Alexander_ 11-Jul-20 12:43 AM

688799615553896450

thanks

skao 11-Jul-20 12:43 AM

do you ever just

murpi 11-Jul-20 12:43 AM

I was summoned

Dune 11-Jul-20 12:43 AM

we had a spam wave, they manually pinged everyone

not much we can do that against that, unfortunately

Alexander_ 11-Jul-20 12:43 AM

maybe enable https://ratelimited.me/4UzCTkAIOJB7.png

RATELIMITED ·3abfuA.png

Dune 11-Jul-20 12:44 AM

it's enabled

Alexander_ 11-Jul-20 12:44 AM

oh

Dune 11-Jul-20 12:44 AM

they're human, not bots

shouldn't happen too often, this is a first

Alexander_ 11-Jul-20 12:44 AM

im banned on official minecraft server

cause someone was spam pinging and i said something like oh god a raid and they just banned me no questions asked

@Unknown

account created on 3/15/2020

guess they had nothing to lose

Deleted User 11-Jul-20 12:47 AM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 11-Jul-20 12:59 AM

@Dune ping spam?

Dune 11-Jul-20 12:59 AM

yes

Stiopa 11-Jul-20 01:00 AM

ah I see

V1nceManXD 11-Jul-20 01:42 AM

lol

V1nceManXD 11-Jul-20 01:56 AM

xd

teeworlds

benj 11-Jul-20 02:01 PM

fr?

Dune 11-Jul-20 02:02 PM

rule 2

ZeCake 11-Jul-20 02:21 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 11-Jul-20 03:13 PM

create one channel per rule in order to properly tag it like #development

hehe

Iman 11-Jul-20 03:14 PM

x)

Stiopa 12-Jul-20 02:02 PM

suggestion, make the ready bind have to be pressed twice in a quick fashion in order to pause a game

that would reduce the number of accidental pauses (edited)

how does that sound

Dune 12-Jul-20 02:37 PM

I think most people wouldn't figure

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Stiopa 12-Jul-20 04:06 PM

hmmm true

Stiopa 12-Jul-20 05:04 PM

this player count pleases me greatly

thestyxcode 12-Jul-20 05:15 PM

im too dumb to understand lol

explain pls

Stiopa 12-Jul-20 05:15 PM

tournament, and engagement of players the highest in quite some time

thestyxcode 12-Jul-20 05:15 PM

oh ok

Stiopa 12-Jul-20 05:17 PM

a sight to behold.

jxsl13 12-Jul-20 05:36 PM

429, nice

Stiopa 12-Jul-20 05:42 PM

more about the ctf server count ^^

jxsl13 12-Jul-20 05:47 PM

oh, I'm not a vanilla player, but not bad none the less.

Deleted User 12-Jul-20 07:15 PM

hm

Assa 12-Jul-20 10:00 PM

450 - mostly DDNet on 0.7 support

Learath2 12-Jul-20 10:28 PM

Nice to finally have the community back together

Here is to hoping we dont need any more breaking low level protocol changes so that the next bridge code doesnt look even uglier

Dune 12-Jul-20 11:03 PM

That's nice yeah

Though it makes those bridge servers DoS vulnerable?

fokkonaut 12-Jul-20 11:17 PM

0.6 servers are, mine for example shouldnt, i only accept ddnet client and ddnet based clients because they have a token system

ddnet still supports 0.6 vanilla clients without token

redix 12-Jul-20 11:24 PM

But the tokens are only used for connection based messages, not for connless stuff like server info requests

At least as far as I remember

Dune 12-Jul-20 11:25 PM

since they still support 0.6 vanilla clients, they could be attacked using that protocol, right?

redix 12-Jul-20 11:28 PM

In theory yes. I think ddnet only responds a minimal packet for the server info requests on high load.

Dune 12-Jul-20 11:28 PM

oh, clever

redix 12-Jul-20 11:30 PM

I actually tried this on a vanilla server, when there was an ongoing attack on all 0.6 servers. People instantly started complaining that servers appear empty although there were people playing...

Dune 12-Jul-20 11:37 PM

sounds inconvenient yeah

ReiTW 13-Jul-20 12:56 AM

@redix +1, that's a way to avoid cpu consumation & outgoing bandwidth

but it doesn't really appear empty, it just doesn't send ingame players infos

redix 13-Jul-20 12:59 AM

Still annoying. Using tokens like 0.7 does is a better option

ReiTW 13-Jul-20 01:08 AM

dunno why it is annoying, when I search a server for my case I do not care

Deleted User 13-Jul-20 01:48 AM

Joined the server.

Learath2 13-Jul-20 07:15 AM

Sometimes you look for friends and it's annoying

DDNet client could adopt the new token protocol and keep the old one for backwards compatibility, but the low level networking code already looks like shit because of the bridge code and the 0.6 vanilla support

Assa 13-Jul-20 08:44 AM

you could add a "high load" message in the future indicating that the server doesn't send all infos

Learath2 13-Jul-20 10:33 AM

Well 0.6 people are used to the behaviour by now and by far the best solution would be to have http masters that also send the serverinfo

heinrich5991 13-Jul-20 10:54 AM

ReiTW 13-Jul-20 01:35 PM

@Learath2 +1

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 02:03 PM

https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds/releases/tag/ap-0.1.1

Release Antiping 0.1.1 - TW 0.7.5 · axblk/teeworlds

Fixed some bugs 0.7 antiping pre-release: This only includes basic prediction for other tees and projectiles, it is by far not as advanced as the latest antiping version in DDNet! Projectiles migh...

0.7 antiping

mabye some1 dont know about it

redix 13-Jul-20 03:35 PM

That's just a really early version. Updates with more features will follow soon :)

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Skyrx 13-Jul-20 03:58 PM

Did i say, what dat version perfect?

No?

People who are used to playing with antiping can enjoy it.

Cuz i tested it on vani

Worksd gud

4 me

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:20 PM

So much secrets:)

redix 13-Jul-20 04:21 PM

rocket jump and gunfire prediction is still missing

and it does not include any prediction for ddrace

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:25 PM

Hm, i feel difference about grenade (edited)

With and without

Its kinda better (edited)

heinrich5991 13-Jul-20 04:26 PM

discord api != discord client

redix 13-Jul-20 04:26 PM

It tries to sync all characters and entities in the world, so it shows the predicted position of the projectiles

heinrich5991 13-Jul-20 04:26 PM

bit bad when that happens

redix 13-Jul-20 04:27 PM

downside is that the projectiles seem to appear for away from the tees with high ping

far away*

Dune 13-Jul-20 04:27 PM

@Skyrx no secrets, just a seldom used private channel for admin stuff, almost everything in teeworlds is public

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:27 PM

Its a joke dude

np

So guys

A question

The real antipin for 0.7 in dev?

Dune 13-Jul-20 04:28 PM

what?

heinrich5991 13-Jul-20 04:29 PM

antiping

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:29 PM

+

heinrich5991 13-Jul-20 04:29 PM

by redix

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:29 PM

Okey

The real antiping for 0.7 in developing?

heinrich5991 13-Jul-20 04:30 PM

redix develops it, yes. see above ^^

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:30 PM

I mean

redix 13-Jul-20 04:30 PM

Nobody started working on it so far... so i did it

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:30 PM

He the only 1 person who wrorkin at it? (edited)

redix 13-Jul-20 04:31 PM

Mostly because some parts of the vanilla community stayed in 0.6 because of missing antiping

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:31 PM

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Im the one of them

tbh, i only care about grenade pred (edited)

for gctf/zcatch

redix 13-Jul-20 04:35 PM

i'll add rocket jump and gunfire prediction (your own projectiles will spawn immediately like in ddnet) that should be enough for vanilla+gctf/zcatch

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:35 PM

@redix thx god u are exist

redix 13-Jul-20 04:36 PM

well it's no black magic but working on that code is seriously no fun

Skyrx 13-Jul-20 04:36 PM

I know, cuz tried 2 do it by myself

Itrs realy hard

cuz i thought dat was ez

NebulaGrey 13-Jul-20 07:30 PM

Joined the server.

Deleted User 13-Jul-20 09:42 PM

rj rj

GELO 14-Jul-20 10:37 AM

Joined the server.

Tonixe 14-Jul-20 11:23 AM

rj

Sonix 14-Jul-20 11:31 AM

Rj

Stiopa 14-Jul-20 12:44 PM

definitely a rj

Ironbeak 14-Jul-20 06:07 PM

Joined the server.

no sry

xD

jxsl13 14-Jul-20 06:42 PM

rj

Pure_luck 15-Jul-20 01:55 PM

Joined the server.

Hi all! I'm here

Could anyone tell me who is admin of infCroya «corona outbreak test» server?

What 15-Jul-20 01:56 PM

hi here, i'm part of all

i don't know

Pure_luck 15-Jul-20 01:58 PM

ok, np

Dune 15-Jul-20 02:09 PM

is that your disciple, @rand()

rand() 15-Jul-20 03:04 PM

yes

I like to influence people, bot(), then pureluck, can't wait for the next idea

Pure_luck 15-Jul-20 04:42 PM

Started my own infCroya 24x7 server. Someone want to test it?

Eva Gabunda 15-Jul-20 05:27 PM

Joined the server.

ANYONE TO PLAY PLS

plsssslsslslslsls

jxsl13 15-Jul-20 05:50 PM

rj

MikePKMN 15-Jul-20 06:36 PM

Joined the server.

someone have hide & seek maps?

a gerdoe 15-Jul-20 06:41 PM

no

but i have catch16 map named grasscatch:

Attachment: grasscatch.map (87.37 KB)

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Pure_luck 15-Jul-20 07:27 PM

Oh, nice. Does anybody have old infection maps? Like city

a gerdoe 15-Jul-20 07:28 PM

Is editor2 refactored editor or a separate program?

Dune 15-Jul-20 07:28 PM

refactored editor

a gerdoe 15-Jul-20 07:29 PM

bad and good in one xd

Stiopa 15-Jul-20 07:32 PM

knowing life it is in the heinrich's map database :D

@Pure_luck https://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/maps/maps/ inf_ prefix for the classic maps

infc_ for the infection class maps

the new infcroya maps seem to use infc_ too

a gerdoe 15-Jul-20 07:44 PM

then i think that all teeworlds contributors have own domains and own hosted homeservers

Pure_luck 15-Jul-20 09:45 PM

@Stiopa omg, that was super helpful. Thanks!

Stiopa 15-Jul-20 09:58 PM

thank heinrich :)

ReiTW 16-Jul-20 12:05 AM

looks like a honeypot server spoofs packets with player ips directly to our server

ReiTW 16-Jul-20 12:16 AM

@heinrich5991 do you have any logs of recent registered servers on 0.6 side?

heinrich5991 16-Jul-20 12:27 AM

no

ReiTW 16-Jul-20 12:27 AM

rip so

looks ok now on thta side

Meka 16-Jul-20 01:15 AM

could one of yall toss me the fng server invite?

jxsl13 16-Jul-20 01:25 AM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12923

Teeworlds Discord servers (Page 1) — Community News — Teeworlds For...

Teeworlds Discord servers (Page 1) — Community News — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

@Meka

Meka 16-Jul-20 01:31 AM

ShootXen 16-Jul-20 01:37 AM

3

Trafalgar Law 16-Jul-20 02:03 AM

Who pinged me

agusx30 16-Jul-20 02:08 AM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 16-Jul-20 02:08 AM

sorry dude xD

Kasia 16-Jul-20 10:57 AM

Joined the server.

ok77 16-Jul-20 11:40 AM

aye

Urquell 16-Jul-20 02:49 PM

Joined the server.

Jotaro 17-Jul-20 02:29 PM

Joined the server.

Ah i miss this game

Long time no play

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Stiopa 17-Jul-20 03:01 PM

welcome back

Martin0513 17-Jul-20 06:01 PM

Joined the server.

Hello Guys come to xpanic pls

Stiopa 17-Jul-20 07:33 PM

? I don't see an xpanic server?

oh. in 0.6

Jotaro 17-Jul-20 10:45 PM

old game

probably only few players play it now

but it's a great game ngl

Dune 17-Jul-20 10:46 PM

https://status.tw/ 577 players onlnie

status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:18 AM

still a shadow of its former self

#reviveTWinitiative

Naoki 18-Jul-20 12:20 AM

status.tw is counting from 13 July 2019

Is here page that i can see all my 'tw time' since i first time joined with this name?

Dune 18-Jul-20 12:22 AM

no

Naoki 18-Jul-20 12:22 AM

:<

And is it possible to see how much time i was on for example fng or ddnet?

heinrich5991 18-Jul-20 12:24 AM

#REvIveTWinitiative

Naoki 18-Jul-20 12:25 AM

Whats going on with that?

Whats happening?

Dune 18-Jul-20 12:25 AM

I think @heinrich5991 is playing with words

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:25 AM

REITW

Naoki 18-Jul-20 12:25 AM

So im bad at

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:25 AM

:squint:

heinrich5991 18-Jul-20 12:25 AM

@ReiTW

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:26 AM

I'm serious tho

revive tw

"how is one supposed to do that?" one may ask

ReiTW 18-Jul-20 12:26 AM

? @heinrich5991

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:27 AM

and I answer. Time to do the rites

Begin the rites of revival!

ReiTW 18-Jul-20 12:28 AM

ha

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:28 AM

no ha

this is a serious issue

ReiTW 18-Jul-20 12:29 AM

the only issue I saw was cloudflare having problems

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:29 AM

the issue I see is the split between two versions

Dune 18-Jul-20 12:29 AM

not much that can be done about that

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:30 AM

unfortunately

I suppose it will fix itself with time

just like the 0.5 -> 0.6 did

or maybe teeworlds stayed on 0.6 a bit too long?

ReiTW 18-Jul-20 12:30 AM

also a lot of people doesn't really like the new version so

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:31 AM

also, a question of UTMOST importance

teeworlds 0.9 -> teeworlds 0.10 or teeworlds 1.0

Dune 18-Jul-20 12:31 AM

I haven't heard that too much, mostly lack of content issues

@Stiopa 0.10

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:31 AM

the only right option!

ReiTW 18-Jul-20 12:32 AM

0.10 == 0.1 < 0.9 ?

Zatline 18-Jul-20 12:32 AM

1.0 would be the logical step after 0.9 srsly

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 12:32 AM

no, the integer after . must be separate from the one on the left

I can already see the debate raging on once 0.9 is released

redix 18-Jul-20 01:05 AM

Does anyone honestly believe there will ever be a 1.0? :D A new major release usually includes a compatibility break. We still didn't recover from the last one... And I don't know about any big feature that would justify a compatibility break

Dune 18-Jul-20 01:13 AM

yeah, it's hard to justify throwing away all the content that makes Teeworlds imo, other than for security issues

redix 18-Jul-20 01:19 AM

The more important question is probably 0.8 after 0.7.9 (without a compatibility break) or 0.7.10

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:20 AM

yeah... the 0.6 -> 0.7 change was deadly

though the 0.8 milestone is set to have interesting things

redix 18-Jul-20 01:25 AM

Well it includes 3 issues. Map compression isn't really important since the embedded images are the biggest part of the files, bots would be possible without a break and downloadable content is rather useless without a modding system which can actually use the resources.

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:27 AM

true... something more major is desirable maybe...

a new powerup of the ninja ilk maybe... :P so as not to modify the "core" gameplay, but to implement an actual gameplay addition somewhere... idk

probably not a weapon... after several years of playing I got too used to the current state... too conservative

redix 18-Jul-20 01:33 AM

Yeah. People just wouldn't use new gameplay elements... They don't even play new maps. I have hardly ever seen anything but ctf5 in public games =\

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:34 AM

public games are going to stay ctf5 probably for the rest of the game

unless official servers with map rotation are implemented

redix 18-Jul-20 01:34 AM

The last gameplay change was the addition of the laser in 0.4 I think

When you have map rotation people just won't join...

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:35 AM

and that was like... 12 years ago or more (edited)

official servers though, I feel like they would attract the necessary players

even if map rotation was implemented, map rotation for public 16 player games is pointless

8v8 on ctf1 would not work

I mean, it COULD. but the map is definitely not designed for that

redix 18-Jul-20 01:36 AM

ctf1 doesn't work in general ^^

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:37 AM

^^

ctf1_red

idea: remove ctf5

make ctf2 the new public vanilla map

noby 18-Jul-20 01:38 AM

people dont want that

if u try to force people onto maps they dont want they will just vote for the ones they do, or find another server

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:40 AM

make the default filter hide all maps with "ctf5" lol

enough banter. I feel the gameplay is already

in general, it is hard to reach new players

steam certainly helped

somewhat

redix 18-Jul-20 01:43 AM

ctf5 is okay for public games. It's just kinda boring to play it all the time...

Dune 18-Jul-20 01:43 AM

@noby yeah, like ctf4_old

noby 18-Jul-20 01:44 AM

thats the equivalent for ictf right

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:44 AM

it's not like teeworlds is easy to find on steam either.

Dune 18-Jul-20 01:44 AM

@redix death tiles/unhookables were 0.5 I think?

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:44 AM

pretty far down on the "multiplayer" free to play games :t

redix 18-Jul-20 01:44 AM

Ah true :)

Dune 18-Jul-20 01:45 AM

I think gameplay elements would be enthusiastically welcomed and played with, even if not on ctf5. mods abuse every little resource vanilla teeworlds has

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:45 AM

may 0.8 bring... tf2-style teleporters

@Dune sounds like every mod for every game ever :-)

redix 18-Jul-20 01:45 AM

Only thought about weapons or power ups

Dune 18-Jul-20 01:45 AM

I mean, imagine a lot of mods without ninja, or unhookables

map elements are super refreshing

even though they never manage to find their way in vanilla

like ninja, unhookable, death tiles, they make terrible maps in vanilla

redix 18-Jul-20 01:48 AM

Well ddrace doesn't really use ninja itself :D they just abuse the skin. Sushi once made a really cool race map that uses the fact that you can change direction without losing speed with ninja

Dune 18-Jul-20 01:51 AM

ooh, that's fun

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:55 AM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8781

Do you have any ideas for new power-ups? (Page 1) — Developer Journ...

Do you have any ideas for new power-ups? (Page 1) — Developer Journals — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

:)

thought it'd be relevant to post

heinrich5991 18-Jul-20 01:58 AM

@redix ninja was changed in 0.6 I think

to keep the speed

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 01:59 AM

a good change. ninja flight is fun

redix 18-Jul-20 02:00 AM

Okay. Never noticed that because it's hardly ever used

Dune 18-Jul-20 02:01 AM

fun fact there is no prediction whatsoever

ninja teleports you

heinrich5991 18-Jul-20 02:01 AM

and for hammer you now need a line of sight

redix 18-Jul-20 02:01 AM

Antiping in ddnet can predict ninja I think

Dune 18-Jul-20 02:02 AM

i don't think you need anything complicated

redix 18-Jul-20 02:03 AM

True

Dune 18-Jul-20 02:03 AM

it's just never been implemented i guess

redix 18-Jul-20 02:04 AM

It's just a weapon effect. They don't have prediction in general. The weapon input is also handled differently. It's not as reliable for prediction like the movement input

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 02:07 AM

Also; what's the highest peak of players teeworlds ever had? (W/o the (connecting...) exploiter)

(Or at least a one you remember)

redix 18-Jul-20 02:11 AM

From what I remember there were times with > 1000 online players between 2008 and 2010. Mostly distributed between vanilla, instagib and race

Not sure about the years after that

heinrich5991 18-Jul-20 02:37 AM

yes, >1000 players online happened again after that

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 02:43 AM

Wasn't there like... ~1300 in 2013?

Pure_luck 18-Jul-20 02:57 PM

I recall problems with master server when I could not find servers for weeks. After that community gone down tenfold.

It was ~2017-2018

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 03:01 PM

anyone has contact with FuN~Elefant?

he made the original battlefield gamemode for 0.6 (edited)

Pure_luck 18-Jul-20 03:07 PM

Wow, that would be nice to revive

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 03:13 PM

I managed to dig up an .exe and maps for it

but no source

a gerdoe 18-Jul-20 03:14 PM

some years ago he said that he will not publish sources

and i think he has no sources now

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 03:15 PM

:/

at least zEsc is intact

his site is offline for sure and he had not been online for years

Stiopa 18-Jul-20 03:31 PM

"ich bin leider zur inaktiv"

(edited)

Stiopa 19-Jul-20 03:18 AM

I suppose the auto demo recording of race would begin at character spawn and be sorted by the length of the actual race?

since starting at the race begin is a bit... weird, and does not contain the additional rocket boosts that might have occured prior to start

Dune 19-Jul-20 03:19 AM

do you have a better solution?

Stiopa 19-Jul-20 03:20 AM

not really, just... hm.

in an ideal world, a race recording would include like 3 seconds prior to the race begin, to show the actions that provide the initial boost

however, coding a race recording that begins on the actual beginning and ends on the actual ending is probably more ideal

Dune 19-Jul-20 03:22 AM

how do you know that the race is going to start in 3 seconds

Learath2 19-Jul-20 09:12 AM

Err on the side of caution and record everything from spawn?

Players can always slice the demo later

Stiopa 19-Jul-20 01:57 PM

start on spawn, finish on the finish line, discard if reset before that?

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Stiopa 19-Jul-20 02:07 PM

rage join

Eva Gabunda 20-Jul-20 01:41 AM

ANYONE

WANT

TO

PLAY

im in multimap

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Stiopa 20-Jul-20 10:33 AM

Ragejoin

Jotaro 20-Jul-20 11:55 AM

@Stiopa stoooopid

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Jotaro 21-Jul-20 04:30 PM

@Rilla

Rilla 21-Jul-20 04:30 PM

yes?

TFN Arakhis 21-Jul-20 07:24 PM

has anyone a solution for active cl_dyn_cam in ddnet launcher?..

jxsl13 21-Jul-20 11:04 PM

ban

Deleted User 22-Jul-20 05:28 AM

why does nobody ever play the vanilla gamemodes

ctf is so good

Mopsik 22-Jul-20 11:33 AM

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Dune 22-Jul-20 11:43 AM

There are usually a couple of active CTF servers

It gets repetitive, and the player level is high nowadays

Stiopa 22-Jul-20 11:49 AM

Chiller Dragon's server most notably (edited)

What 22-Jul-20 12:38 PM

what about instagib

Dune 22-Jul-20 01:13 PM

It was active in the beginning of 0.7, though shortly after all servers I could find were locked for private games

What 22-Jul-20 01:25 PM

i remember playing instagib for hours

Stiopa 22-Jul-20 02:35 PM

I also remember playing infection for hours, zesc for hours, zpanic/xpanic for hours, battlefield for hours, +ddrace for hours

:P

Assa 22-Jul-20 04:29 PM

zesc was best

Stiopa 22-Jul-20 04:31 PM

speaking of zesc, I decided to take a look at the code today

and maybe merge... but it did not work out at all

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hey, i need help to setup a LAN server in teeworlds 0.7

Dune 23-Jul-20 12:58 PM

@AkaFad https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_setup

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 12:59 PM

thx

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AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:46 PM

@Dune it's doesnt work

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:46 PM

@AkaFad what's the problem?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:46 PM

wait

do you wanna talk in private messages ?

@Dune

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:50 PM

if you need to, but talking in public gives the opportunity for more people to help

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:51 PM

ok

btw im on mac os x

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:51 PM

@AkaFad what's the problem?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:51 PM

here's the error

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:52 PM

does this file exist?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:52 PM

serverconfig.cfg ? yes

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:52 PM

at this path?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:52 PM

yup

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:52 PM

can you show it?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:53 PM

like this ?

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:53 PM

show the path of the folder

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:53 PM

via terminal ?

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:53 PM

if you want. that's pwd

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:53 PM

i know :p

like that ?

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:56 PM

hmm

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:56 PM

im dumb btw

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:56 PM

why?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:57 PM

im just dumb x)

im naturally dumb, especially for informatic stuff

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:58 PM

so it works?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:58 PM

no

idk why

i wrote the sample ctf config inside of the serverconfig.cfg (edited)

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:58 PM

maybe permissions? ls -la serverconfig.cfg

this isn't a file content problem, it can't open the file (edited)

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 01:59 PM

Dune 23-Jul-20 01:59 PM

maybe permissions? ls -la serverconfig.cfg

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:00 PM

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:01 PM

hmm

well not sure what's happening, as a work around you can just mv serverconfig.cfg autoexec.cfg

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:02 PM

whitespace in path rip

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:02 PM

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:02 PM

maybe, but that'd be a bug in Teeworlds @jxsl13

@AkaFad that's an info message

ignore

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:02 PM

ah

im dumb ^^"

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:03 PM

usually one should escape the whitespace Other\ Version (edited)

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:05 PM

same error @jxsl13

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:05 PM

how do you even start the server

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:05 PM

by launching the tw server app and selecting the cfg file

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:06 PM

how about opening a terminal

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:06 PM

wdym

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:06 PM

open terminal.app

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:06 PM

im using iTerm

done

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:07 PM

it's the same, just better

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:07 PM

ik

i opened it

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:07 PM

cd into that folder

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:07 PM

done

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:07 PM

cd Server.app

ls

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:08 PM

contents (edited)

thats the folder

when i type ls

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:08 PM

is it the only folder?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:09 PM

yes

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:09 PM

@AkaFad doesn't the autoexec.cfg work?

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:09 PM

cd contents then

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:09 PM

@Dune no, same error (edited)

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:09 PM

doesn't matter, you should have a CTF server

have you tested it?

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:09 PM

.app files should usually be in the applications folder, I'd preferrably use the binary instead of that .app crap

and

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:09 PM

@Dune i get a unnamed server on dm1 in the Local Window

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:10 PM

ok

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:10 PM

cd contents && ls

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:11 PM

Info.plist PkgInfo MacOS Resources

this is the files i see

(edited)

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:11 PM

maybe cd MacOS

ls

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:12 PM

teeworlds_server teeworlds_srv

the files

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:14 PM

./teeworlds_srv -f "/User/<user>/Desktop/Teeworlds/Others\ Versions/0.7/serverconfig.cfg" (edited)

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:14 PM

with the "." ?

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:14 PM

yes

I would just open the Server.app like a folder and move the teeworlds_srv to the location of the serverconfig.cfg

to make this a little bit easier

but this kind of should(TM) work

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:18 PM

it doesnt work

same error

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:18 PM

what's the error

might be storage.cfg restrictions (edited)

move the teeworlds_srv into the same folder as your serverconfig.cfg

right click on Server.app (edited)

show package content

a screenshot of the error would help, as "the same" might be your view of the problem

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:21 PM

like that ?

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:22 PM

well, that's not the same error

even tho the result is the same

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:23 PM

yup

0.6 lan was simpler :)

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:23 PM

did you move the teeworlds_srv ?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:23 PM

where (edited)

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:24 PM

into the folder with serverconfig.cfg (edited)

BadMug 23-Jul-20 02:24 PM

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AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:25 PM

i guess i did it

doesnt work (edited)

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:25 PM

error?

doesn't work doesn't help

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:26 PM

wait x)

[2020-07-23 14:25:10][engine]: running on unix-macosx-amd64 [2020-07-23 14:25:10][engine]: arch is little endian [2020-07-23 14:25:10][storage]: warning no data directory found [2020-07-23 14:25:10][storage]: couldn't open storage.cfg [2020-07-23 14:25:10][storage]: using standard paths [2020-07-23 14:25:10][storage]: added path '$USERDIR' ('/Users/user/Library/Application Support/Teeworlds') [2020-07-23 14:25:10][storage]: added path '$CURRENTDIR' ('/Users/user/Desktop/Teeworlds/Others_Versions/0.7/Teeworlds_Server.app/Contents/MacOS') [2020-07-23 14:25:10][storage]: added path '$APPDIR' ('.') [2020-07-23 14:25:10][console]: failed to open 'autoexec.cfg' [2020-07-23 14:25:10][console]: failed to open '/User/user/Desktop/Teeworlds/Others\ Versions/0.7/serverconfig.cfg' [2020-07-23 14:25:10][console]: Info: only relative paths starting from the ones you specify in 'storage.cfg' are allowed [2020-07-23 14:25:10][server]: starting... [2020-07-23 14:25:10][mapchecker]: invalid standard map [2020-07-23 14:25:10][server]: failed to load map. mapname='dm1'

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:28 PM

it seems like you changed the folder name from "Others Versions" to "Others_Versions"

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:29 PM

yes

i rewrote the line

still doesnt work

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:29 PM

/User/user/Desktop/Teeworlds/Others\ Versions/0.7/serverconfig.cfg'

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:29 PM

UserS

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:29 PM

is the error path,, you should update the "-f "/Users/......" path as well

I mean the -f "/Users/<user>/Desktop/Teeworlds/Others_Versions/0.7/serverconfig.cfg"

you trying to start the default vanilla server?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:31 PM

wait

Configuring the server To configure the server you need to create a .cfg-file so that the server knows what to do. Use your favorite text editor to create a config that uses the following syntax: setting value setting2 value2

I found this on https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_setup

what are those settings values ?

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:33 PM

that's just how it works, it's not a real setting called "setting"

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:33 PM

im dumb

sorry then ^^

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:33 PM

those values below this example are the actual values, but you should use the actual settings list

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_commands

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:36 PM

k

btw what are the "server tunnings" ? (edited)

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:37 PM

something to tune the physics, which you are probably not interested in

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:37 PM

ok

does it work in 0.6 or only in 0.7 ?

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:40 PM

http://www.mediafire.com/file/52xb1abmul3xk4l/teeworlds-0.7.5-osx.zip/file

teeworlds-0.7.5-osx

download, unzip, cd into folder, execute ./start.sh

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:41 PM

what's this?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:41 PM

for the tunnings ? (edited)

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:41 PM

vanilla teeworlds 0.7

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:41 PM

nvm

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:41 PM

please use official download links then

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:41 PM

i did

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:41 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=downloads

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:42 PM

it's the server in a proper context to work out of the box

you may replace the teeworlds_srv executable if you don't trust this with the one from teeworlds.com (edited)

even tho I just downloaded it and put it in there

without unnecessary assets to be uploadable here

Attachment: teeworlds-0.7.5-osx.zip (2.02 MB)

Dune 23-Jul-20 02:45 PM

hm, what's wrong with the OSX server in the official download?

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:45 PM

dunno, the current state is that it's missing the storage.cfg

kind of that

ok, rip hehe, better us ethe one from mediafire

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:48 PM

download, unzip, cd into folder, execute ./start.sh

@jxsl13 which folder

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:49 PM

into the unzipped folder

teeworlds-0.7.5-osx

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:50 PM

ok and then

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:50 PM

Attachment: teeworlds-0.7.5-osx.zip (2.02 MB)

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:50 PM

what must i do

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:50 PM

./start.sh

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:52 PM

[2020-07-23 14:50:26][engine]: running on unix-macosx-amd64 [2020-07-23 14:50:26][engine]: arch is little endian [2020-07-23 14:50:26][storage]: warning no data directory found [2020-07-23 14:50:26][storage]: added path '$USERDIR' ('/Users/user/Library/Application Support/Teeworlds') [2020-07-23 14:50:26][storage]: added path '$CURRENTDIR' ('/Users/user/Desktop/teeworlds-0.7.5-osx') [2020-07-23 14:50:26][storage]: added path '$APPDIR' ('.') [2020-07-23 14:50:26][console]: executing 'autoexec.cfg' [2020-07-23 14:50:26][console]: executing 'autoexec.cfg' [2020-07-23 14:50:26][server]: starting... [2020-07-23 14:50:26][mapchecker]: invalid standard map [2020-07-23 14:50:26][server]: failed to load map. mapname='dm1'

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:52 PM

yeah, download the zip file above

and try again

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:53 PM

i did

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:53 PM

I mean this one, I just uploaded

https://discordapp.com/channels/407308363031117832/407308363031117834/735841152925696022

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:53 PM

yes

i did it

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:54 PM

then create a directory called data

in the unzipped folder

and put the maps folder in there

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:56 PM

ok

well that's done

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:57 PM

screenshot?

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:57 PM

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:57 PM

I find it rather weird that this does not work for me, but could work for you

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 02:58 PM

strange

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 02:58 PM

and maps being on the same level as autoexec.cfg works for me

try cd ~/..../teeworlds-0.7.5/ && ./start.sh

cd into folder and ./start.sh

this constellation works for me

and with the mediafire version it works the other way

hm, the server expects the folders mapres and maps to be in data 

Attachment: teeworlds-0.7.5-osx.zip (4.73 MB)

this one should(TM) work out of the box hehe

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 03:08 PM

Oh

wait

it works ! @jxsl13

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 03:11 PM

hm hm

AkaFad 23-Jul-20 03:12 PM

thanks you

jxsl13 23-Jul-20 03:12 PM

np

Stiopa 23-Jul-20 03:12 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1051 one can find really interesting issues ^^ (edited)

quickstart page · Issue #1051 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Add a quickstart page(toggle with server browser) to play a game: images+description for every gametype which are selectable(maybe arrange like: you vs all, team vs team) adjustable server level ma...

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ok77 23-Jul-20 10:46 PM

i dono

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Siemka czy jest jakis POLAK?

Stiopa 24-Jul-20 12:24 AM

Angielski tutaj. @Cried (English here.) (edited)

Cried 24-Jul-20 12:25 AM

Can someone help me with Skin to teeworlds?

I have been trying to upload skins for 2 hours because I like them a lot and I can't

Welf 24-Jul-20 01:18 AM

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Dune 24-Jul-20 01:19 AM

@Cried what is "skin to teeworlds"?

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:05 PM

Change outfit

in teeworlds

Dune 24-Jul-20 04:08 PM

where are you trying to "upload" skins?

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:09 PM

Teeworlds

data

skins

Becouse now is JSN

and old skins cant try :/

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:10 PM

old skins do not really work in 0.7 (edited)

you need body parts and then you can make a skin from those parts.

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:10 PM

Oh shiet :/

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:10 PM

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:10 PM

I dont know how do it

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:10 PM

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:11 PM

Have u maybe some skins or know how to rework old skin and add to 0.7?

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:12 PM

it would be best if you have a vector graphic of your desired skin.

svg

for example

Dune 24-Jul-20 04:12 PM

@Cried look in the skins folder, it's fairly straight forward

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:14 PM

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:14 PM

you make a body part, the same way it is made in those folders, export it with the right dimensions (and 72dpi) as png and add it to those folders.

then you can use the body part. you don't really need to use the json files.

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:16 PM

im noob and i dont know how do it :/

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:16 PM

inkscape?

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:16 PM

http://teeworlds.net/index.php?f_id_contenu=1086&f_id_type=

These skins

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:16 PM

well, I'n not here to do that for you, I'm just here to show you how that's done.

I'm no graphics designer.

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:17 PM

:/

Dune 24-Jul-20 04:17 PM

I wish https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2271 would get through

Secondary Skin file format · Issue #2271 · teeworlds/teeworlds

0.7 introduced a new skin system, separating each body part to allow deeper customisation by combining them. This was a good decision I think, and most players love it. The other day, @iTzMeRafa pu...

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:18 PM

I think some template as psd or afdesign from Sonix(or whoever else) would help a lot with an explanation as to what each of these body part variations even mean

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:19 PM

Okay thanks bro

for all help ❤️

u are good

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:20 PM

Cried 24-Jul-20 04:22 PM

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 04:25 PM

I'm not sure myself, just speculations

Stiopa 24-Jul-20 11:24 PM

what if you wanted to update a mod but the github files said (c) copyright

jxsl13 24-Jul-20 11:38 PM

read the license

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mind 25-Jul-20 09:12 AM

Hey, I found some inconsisten naming schemes within the editor. In the tooltip it states "Flip brush horizontal" and the button at the top uses X/X. When you use this option the tile will be flipped in horizontal DIRECTION. But when you turn Info on, it will be asigned with a V (for vertical), stating the LINE it was mirorred on. Imo you should decide for one of the two options instead of using both, since it's confusing.

Stiopa 25-Jul-20 03:58 PM

malwarebytes seems to be detecting something within teeworlds.exe?

it's been like that since I updated malwarebytes... maybe I should verify local files

Dune 25-Jul-20 04:00 PM

hey @mind, thanks for the report. Not sure if it's worth forwarding to Github though, given that work on the old map editor has stopped and we're focusing on a v2

@Stiopa happened a few times in the past that some AV had false positives on Teeworlds

The Steam binary should be the exact same as the teeworlds.com binary, check the CRC/SHA-1

Stiopa 25-Jul-20 04:01 PM

well, validation shows no "changed" files

ye

the teeworlds downloaded from the site gives it as well

I assume the IP is related to the master servers?

considering the servers won't show until the warning popsu up

Dune 25-Jul-20 04:05 PM

what IP?

Stiopa 25-Jul-20 04:07 PM

the IP mentioned by the antivirus on the right (edited)

Dune 25-Jul-20 04:08 PM

not sure what this corresponds to

Stiopa 25-Jul-20 04:09 PM

well, the antivirus mentions that it is a exit connection to the IP 185.101.94.85

Dune 25-Jul-20 07:23 PM

probably a server

jxsl13 25-Jul-20 08:05 PM

it is :0

Dune 25-Jul-20 08:22 PM

maybe this IP was used for malicious activities

1

Stiopa 25-Jul-20 08:56 PM

I always knew the gctf have been up to no good!

a gerdoe 25-Jul-20 09:13 PM

clanservers on same host (edited)

Stiopa 25-Jul-20 09:13 PM

this one

is the one

>:(

Stiopa 25-Jul-20 09:22 PM

I'm in awe with this ping, absolute unit.

Naoki 25-Jul-20 09:48 PM

DDoS

Trafalgar Law 25-Jul-20 10:17 PM

@Stiopa The 999 should be fixed with a refresh

Stiopa 25-Jul-20 10:29 PM

ye but it was real internet

MarisaG 26-Jul-20 08:14 AM

Hiya! I still have some servers in a datacenter that are not using their full potential and I would like to offer them for use as Teeworlds servers for someone who wants a server of their own. With my servers you will get the best performance and reliability compared to a server in your home, and lots more bandwidth than you are likely to ever use

The difference between this and my commercial servers is that these free server will also be used for hosting a BBS or MUD for another user. If you are interested just go to https://teeworldfans.gameplayer.club/HostSplash and choose the default plan and use "offline" payment method so you don't have to pay. I will get back to you shortly with your server info. Here's to Teeworlds fans!

Stiopa 26-Jul-20 01:55 PM

update: it's just the ip, the all of the ports still trigger the AV ;p

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Pure_luck 26-Jul-20 08:00 PM

@Dune so I can finally mod a tee to look like a tee sitting in a tank for a bf2 mod?

Dune 26-Jul-20 08:01 PM

What

Pure_luck 26-Jul-20 08:02 PM

I am talking about this proposal https://discord.com/channels/407308363031117832/407308363031117834/736225557821522061

It would be nice if server could push custom bodies not just keywords for them.

Dune 26-Jul-20 08:02 PM

No. It's just a more convenient way to share skins

Pure_luck 26-Jul-20 08:02 PM

Ah... bad

But will PNG's be downloadable from server?

or they still should be built in a client build to be chosen?

Fully custom avatars would be so cool for modding

Dune 26-Jul-20 08:08 PM

There's an issue for skin download

Dune 26-Jul-20 08:20 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2156

Downloadable content · Issue #2156 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Make the client able to download addtional/updated content from official server(s). So we can provide new/updated for all clients (see #2152).

Learath2 26-Jul-20 08:21 PM

Issue with that is probably obscene content

Dune 26-Jul-20 08:22 PM

how is it different than custom maps?

Learath2 26-Jul-20 08:22 PM

Or grossly offensive content, I can imagine atleast a couple people that would use a swastika tee

Yeah you can do that with maps aswell I guess

Dune 26-Jul-20 08:23 PM

already possible with maps

also downloadable skins would be enabled by the server

Learath2 26-Jul-20 08:23 PM

I guess as long as the server controls it, e.g. the server choses the skins

Dune 26-Jul-20 08:23 PM

yeah

Learath2 26-Jul-20 08:25 PM

All the downloadable stuff should probably be http backed btw, it'd be nice to finally have http downloads for all kinds of resources

a gerdoe 26-Jul-20 08:27 PM

gameskins via server

Dune 26-Jul-20 08:53 PM

Agree

ReiTW 27-Jul-20 03:33 AM

that was an idea i've already discussed about a long time ago, being able to download contents, and even could add more stuff, like a modded server that could support some modded weapons than the default one

TsFreddie 27-Jul-20 05:54 AM

i don't think i have it anymore.

@a gerdoe

a gerdoe 27-Jul-20 06:43 AM

too bad

Pure_luck 27-Jul-20 09:29 AM

OMG, seems that bf2 mod will finally have actual vehicles instead of schematic and laggy ones built from lasers

a gerdoe 27-Jul-20 10:12 AM

i dont think so

Pure_luck 27-Jul-20 11:53 AM

even a tee-sized custom PNG would be a huge step forward (edited)

ShootXen 27-Jul-20 01:30 PM

Was there a change of master servers or why weren't my servers finding them (0.7)? (edited)

jxsl13 27-Jul-20 01:43 PM

I think fokko had that problem as well at some point.

ShootXen 27-Jul-20 01:44 PM

I once had the problem with gcc but solved it by using clang

fokkonaut 27-Jul-20 02:00 PM

so weird

@Learath2 maybe different compiler options can fix it

redix 27-Jul-20 02:02 PM

What compiler (+version) are you using? No matter how hard I tried... I could not reproduce it

fokkonaut 27-Jul-20 02:10 PM

did u try it with F-DDrace?

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/68

redix 27-Jul-20 02:26 PM

I only tried with ddnet 7 I think. I'll try again with your code

I should maybe try with a new gcc version. Used 4.9 last time

fokkonaut 27-Jul-20 02:37 PM

just try to connectdummy <amount> some dummies, like 60-80 (can increase sv_max_clients to 128), then use the status command

or: increase the MAX_RCONCMD_TOSEND or whatever in engine/server/server.h to 16 again, then a simple rcon login should be enough to get the error

redix 27-Jul-20 03:17 PM

I used between 40 and 50 clients, forced full snapshots, increased MAX_RCONCMD_TOSEND and simulated packet loss, but at least with ddnet7 everything was fine =\

+ high bandwidth. Was between 0.5 and 1 Mbit/s bandwidth per client

redix 27-Jul-20 09:49 PM

@fokkonaut I tried with your mod. 60 clients in stress mode, MAX_RCONCMD_SEND=16 and sv_high_bandwidth 1 but everything is still fine I'll try again with a new gcc version later

fokkonaut 27-Jul-20 09:51 PM

mhh

really weird

no idea tbh

ShootXen 28-Jul-20 07:33 PM

was there a way to rebind the mousewheel button in the editor?

heinrich5991 28-Jul-20 07:34 PM

no bindings in the editor I think(?)

ShootXen 28-Jul-20 07:34 PM

pls no

my button is broken and I can't use it to drag the map in the editor (edited)

Dune 28-Jul-20 08:29 PM

The editorv1 does not use binds

Learath2 28-Jul-20 11:14 PM

afaik v2 doesn't either

yet atleast

Dune 29-Jul-20 02:19 AM

right, that's an issue

!HowToDie 29-Jul-20 03:24 AM

Joined the server.

hello

4

Stiopa 29-Jul-20 10:46 AM

Rj

Jotaro 29-Jul-20 11:29 AM

So why is there people talking with bots instead of normal accounts in #bridge

Deleted User 29-Jul-20 11:57 AM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 29-Jul-20 12:45 PM

that is a bridge bot with the IRC channel of teeworlds.

cyberfighter 29-Jul-20 01:17 PM

Joined the server.

rj

a gerdoe 29-Jul-20 01:24 PM

cybertroll

Stiopa 29-Jul-20 01:33 PM

yep rage join definitely

Ényo 30-Jul-20 11:03 AM

Joined the server.

ShootXen 30-Jul-20 01:18 PM

what are the features of the editor v2 so far?

Dune 30-Jul-20 01:59 PM

Have a look at the pinned github issue

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 02:14 PM

Joined the server.

How do i publish a map that i made? an how do i play it to test it? (edited)

ReiTW 30-Jul-20 02:15 PM

depends, if you've done a ddnet map that you want to publish, you should go on ddnet's discord & ask them, for there if you want to test out your map you should make a server

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 02:19 PM

how do i make a server?

Joined the server.

Can anyone send me an invite to ddnets server? (edited)

heinrich5991 30-Jul-20 02:24 PM

https://ddnet.tw/discord (a google search away)

Discord - A New Way to Chat with Friends & Communities

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Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 02:28 PM

Joined the server.

SkyHDTV 30-Jul-20 02:47 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 30-Jul-20 03:06 PM

you double click on the teeworlds_srv.exe is the easiest way.

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 10:50 PM

Joined the server.

how do i login to put a new map? (edited)

(What do i type)

Trafalgar Law 30-Jul-20 10:54 PM

First you should join your srv

And to add maps open your folder where your server is and go in data --> maps

Move it in

jxsl13 30-Jul-20 11:06 PM

on linux the best way is to ise the terminal

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:06 PM

how?

what cmds?

jxsl13 30-Jul-20 11:06 PM

to start the server I mean

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:06 PM

how

jxsl13 30-Jul-20 11:06 PM

you cd into the directory

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:06 PM

ye

jxsl13 30-Jul-20 11:07 PM

and start it with ./teeworlds_srv

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:07 PM

ok

ty

jxsl13 30-Jul-20 11:07 PM

then you need to add your map into the mals folder found in the same directory as your teeworlds_srv

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:08 PM

i'll try...

jxsl13 30-Jul-20 11:08 PM

I dunno where the game is installed if you use the ubuntu "store". so in any case you can download it and unzip it on your desktop

Learath2 30-Jul-20 11:08 PM

You can put the map in either data/maps or config_dir/maps

on linux config_dir would be ~/.teeworlds

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:09 PM

in files

i don't think i want to do this, it's to complicated

a gerdoe 30-Jul-20 11:12 PM

then, don't do it hehe

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:12 PM

but i want to XD

a gerdoe 30-Jul-20 11:13 PM

you made map on your machine, yep?

try to start server

then join the server

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:15 PM

i named my map New_dm

i go to lan and i only see kobra 4

a gerdoe 30-Jul-20 11:16 PM

uhm, are you using ddnet server for testing dm map?

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:17 PM

ppl are telling me to go to join my server, press f2, login and then change the with sv_map <mapname>

a gerdoe 30-Jul-20 11:17 PM

and they're right

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:17 PM

@a gerdoe ye i am

but how do i login? how do i join my server?

a gerdoe 30-Jul-20 11:18 PM

after server start you can see rcon pass in terminal (edited)

use it for login and write this sv_map

@jxsl13 what's up, king

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 30-Jul-20 11:26 PM

hmmm

i'll try. we will talk again tomarrow

jxsl13 30-Jul-20 11:54 PM

what's up @a gerdoe, how are your cats doing

Pure_luck 31-Jul-20 12:22 PM

Call it a blasphemy but it seems that teeworlds server needs a GUI launcher/configurator. (edited)

jxsl13 31-Jul-20 01:25 PM

blasphemy.

ReiTW 31-Jul-20 01:48 PM

@Pure_luck If I remember, there's already a gui that does exist but for older versions

Dune 31-Jul-20 02:08 PM

@Pure_luck it does, and it's a heavy task

a gerdoe 31-Jul-20 02:47 PM

@jxsl13 nothing unique, but Busya lost weight

jxsl13 31-Jul-20 04:16 PM

:D

VekiPro 31-Jul-20 08:23 PM

Joined the server.

Daethedr 31-Jul-20 09:31 PM

Joined the server.

Lord-Mate 01-Aug-20 02:07 PM

Joined the server.

Hi

Who wanna play with me XPANIC?

Stiopa 01-Aug-20 03:30 PM

has it been ported yet?

a gerdoe 01-Aug-20 03:40 PM

nope

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 01-Aug-20 05:22 PM

wtf

i tested to play KOG DM

tryed to connect

and i have this

Dune 01-Aug-20 05:23 PM

that's a mod thing

I believe

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 01-Aug-20 05:23 PM

ah dune tu est la

nan mais c'est un serveur de hackeurs

?

@Dune

Dune 01-Aug-20 05:24 PM

rule 2 @𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 01-Aug-20 05:24 PM

is that a server of hackers

Dune 01-Aug-20 05:25 PM

that just looks like a false positive from their anti-spoofing software

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 01-Aug-20 05:27 PM

what do you mean

if i enter = my pc is dead

xd

so ?

Learath2 01-Aug-20 05:33 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 KoG has a discord maybe you should ask there

noby 01-Aug-20 05:35 PM

surely there has to be more helpful debug info to provide than 'pc is dead'

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 01-Aug-20 06:01 PM

where is the kog discord

a gerdoe 01-Aug-20 06:07 PM

its not admin's issue i think

stitch626 made spoof protect

VekiPro 01-Aug-20 07:43 PM

Joined the server.

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 02:36 AM

Stitch left teeworlds

Also who is the host of the Servers?

ReiTW 02-Aug-20 04:07 AM

626 -> rafael

Lord-Mate 02-Aug-20 10:59 AM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 02-Aug-20 12:15 PM

0.6 - urinstone

Assa 02-Aug-20 01:04 PM

does anyone know how to backport a map from 0.7 to 0.6?

a gerdoe 02-Aug-20 01:05 PM

nothing to do, but you must replace default mapres to *_0.7

Lord-Mate 02-Aug-20 01:05 PM

Joined the server.

Assa 02-Aug-20 01:09 PM

didn't work

the 0.6 mapper client crashes and 0.6 ddnet doesn't show anything in this map

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 01:21 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 about your problem, it's either the client you are using or the internet connection is just to bad

but I guess the client will be the problem

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 01:22 PM

I am right and there is no way 0.7 client will accept an updated clan name from OTHER player without reconnecting a client (local or remote)? (edited)

a gerdoe 02-Aug-20 01:29 PM

hm, have same @Assa

Dune 02-Aug-20 01:32 PM

@Pure_luck name and clan are an immutable identity of players, so this would require a reconnect

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Assa 02-Aug-20 01:36 PM

@Pure_luck in case you are programming a mod: you can "fix" this on the server side with silent reconnects, it's a bit hacky but works

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Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 01:42 PM

Yeah, I'm currently trying silent reconnect. Thanks a lot!

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 01:56 PM

It worked! Just need to send CNetMsg_Sv_ClientDrop
 with silent = true
 followed by a CNetMsg_Sv_ClientInfo

It's a pity we have a SkinChange message type but not a ClanChange and/or a NameChange (edited)

Spent 3 hours trying to add this. Too much for a trivial feature imho.

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 02:00 PM

How do i publish a map with Linux-Ubuntu?

Learath2 02-Aug-20 02:00 PM

Correction: Name and Clan were made to be the immutable identity of players for some reason that we are not privy to

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 02:00 PM

useing terminal

how?

or try it?

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:02 PM

@Learath2 I've tried to remove guard clause in client so it worked without reconnecting but then really messed a score table after some time. I think the reason it is there because nobody wanted to refactor a client code (edited)

and/or for compatibility with older clients

Learath2 02-Aug-20 02:05 PM

The reason is that people didn't think twice before making a change that simplified the code

All of this player information used to be contained in the snap and updated along with the gamestate. Then the playerinfo got a little large, so they removed it from the snap (the size of the playerinfo in fact doesn't quite matter except for when we send full snaps which is rare). However while removing it, no one stopped to think: "Hmm wait a minute, there were like 2-3 dozen mods in 0.6 who probably are using the fact that these things are not immutable, maybe we should create an alternative"

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:11 PM

Yes, I think that's the way it was. Thanks for explanation (edited)

By the chance do you know was/is the server tune params in snapshot as well?. I've encountered strange situation where I can send tune params to selected (frozen) clients (without broadcasting). they accept it, parse it, apply it but nothing is changed. (edited)

But when I change server-side global tune params clients apply it immediately.

I haven't dig well enough to know if tune params are in snapshot or not.

But if they are that would explain me why client reverts to default tune params and not using tune params it is given explicitly

Learath2 02-Aug-20 02:14 PM

They are not

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:15 PM

Thanks, then I will have another debug session to know why it doesn't apply tuneparams sent explicitly.

Learath2 02-Aug-20 02:15 PM

Problem is usually that you also need to "fake" the tune on the server, as you send the inputs the server will be using the global tunes to move the physics along

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:16 PM

//tune for freezed tees void CGameContext::SendFakeTuningParams(int ClientID) { static CTuningParams FakeTuning; FakeTuning.m_GroundControlSpeed = 0; FakeTuning.m_GroundJumpImpulse = 0; FakeTuning.m_GroundControlAccel = 0; FakeTuning.m_AirControlSpeed = 0; FakeTuning.m_AirJumpImpulse = 0; FakeTuning.m_AirControlAccel = 0; FakeTuning.m_HookDragSpeed = 0; FakeTuning.m_HookDragAccel = 0; FakeTuning.m_HookFireSpeed = 0; CMsgPacker Msg(NETMSGTYPE_SV_TUNEPARAMS); int *pParams = (int *)&FakeTuning; for(unsigned i = 0; i < sizeof(FakeTuning)/sizeof(int); i++) Msg.AddInt(pParams[i]); Server()->SendMsg(&Msg, MSGFLAG_VITAL, ClientID); }

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 02:16 PM

@Assa Do you have catch16 for 0.7? (edited)

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:16 PM

Yeah, I am faking them

it works in 0.6 but doesn't in 0.7

I mean it doesn't work when I send this from 0.7 server

Learath2 02-Aug-20 02:17 PM

Are you sure this works in 0.6?

I think the server actually using the normal tunes for that tee will steal break this

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:17 PM

Yeah, noby uses this code in his 0.6 fng server (patched for protocol compatibility for 0.7 clients)

And when I enter to his server with a 0.7 client all is fine

I think the server actually using the normal tunes for that tee will steal break this

Server disables input completely on server side.

I'm sending fake params to prevent glitches on a client (edited)

Learath2 02-Aug-20 02:20 PM

You'll need to debug that further as that's just weird

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:21 PM

Yes, I think I will

Will write here if I will find something interesting

Also I've just found an nice instruction for 0.6: https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11940

Tutorial: How to create a custom tune system per client (Page 1) — ...

Tutorial: How to create a custom tune system per client (Page 1) — Modifications — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

So maybe it contains something I miss/don't understand and will help me too

Stiopa 02-Aug-20 02:22 PM

@ShootXen there is Catch64

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 02:22 PM

@Stiopa thanks

seems like none is hosting it

Stiopa 02-Aug-20 02:29 PM

you are right

the server is down

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:31 PM

Oh... please don't just write 'the server is down' on public chats

I could deploy a server for this mod but I don't think anybody will raise the community from zero.

And I am currently too occupied trying to revive infCroya community in 0.7

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 02:34 PM

I can do it myself

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:35 PM

Find 5 players that will confirm that they will play on regular basis (at least 2 times a week) and I will make the server.

I just don't want to invest to something that will not live.

Also start a group chat or a discord server for that and invite me there when you will hit 5 wanna-be-players count. (edited)

Didn't knew that zCatch has died on 0.7. Played it half a year ago and there were servers and players (edited)

I see a bunch of zCatch servers there

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 02:38 PM

I dont mind, I just host mods that I like to play

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:39 PM

ah np

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 02:39 PM

and keep them up, and it was always FNG over the past 5years?

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:39 PM

by the chance do you have bf2 sources? (edited)

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 02:39 PM

battlefield?

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:39 PM

yes

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 02:40 PM

I'm not sure but wasn't there a post on the forums with the src?

but to answer your question, no I dont have it

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:45 PM

No, there is no post on the forums with src

FunElefant removed the link in 2012

I have a windows binary but no sources

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 02:51 PM

mhh I can try to ask someone

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 02:53 PM

Would be nice, thanks. @Stiopa also tried to find it but had no success (edited)

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 03:01 PM

Can take a while till I get a answer but catch64 is up and running on 0.7

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 03:10 PM

@Pure_luck from my source it seems you will need to recode the whole mod since the src was never released (edited)

and no one has it

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 03:30 PM

Thanks! Yeah, I was inclined to assume the same thing

I don't think I will start redeveloping that mod in the near future, not alone at least

Assa 02-Aug-20 03:53 PM

Today I brainstormed a bit and had an Idea: XTEE - Teeworlds XCOM spinoff, turn based strategy game, I just wanted to leave it here, feel free to implement

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 04:03 PM

"brainstormed" less then 10sec is what I assume

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 04:14 PM

turn based + teeworlds = meh

If you want to dump all the physics, input management, collision system and controllers why don't start a separate gaming project?

Cause I don't think any turn based strategy would benefit on being made on top of teeworlds.

a gerdoe 02-Aug-20 04:17 PM

teeworlds turn based rpg like pokemon

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:22 PM

with AR, right?

Dror Maor 02-Aug-20 07:24 PM

Joined the server.

hi

can anyone plz tell me how to publish a map? thanks

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:27 PM

What do you mean "publish"? If you have a server, then load it. If you're not then you have to find a teeworlds server hoster who will add it. Or is this automatic process now on DDNet?

Are there unmanned servers which can load any map published by voting and load it?

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 07:28 PM

but i can't load it! it never works for me - it sais that the server port mite be in use

(i'm Dror Maor) (edited)

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:28 PM

why have you edited that?

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 07:29 PM

?

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:29 PM

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noby 02-Aug-20 07:29 PM

[12:27 PM] Pure_luck: Are there unmanned servers which can load any map published by voting and load it? https://trashmap.timakro.de

if its a ddrace type map u can use this

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:29 PM

@noby teeworlds server as a cloud saas. Someone has to do that! thanks

Dror Maor 02-Aug-20 07:29 PM

haha , RBS Gimmel is a 'hood where i live

noby 02-Aug-20 07:29 PM

teecloud

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 07:29 PM

it's not a ddrace, but i do want to make a ddrace map

@Pure_luck are you there?

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:31 PM

Where? )

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 07:31 PM

here!

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:31 PM

oh

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 07:31 PM

xD

it's not a ddrace map , but i do want to make a ddrace map (edited)

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:32 PM

Duplicate message detected

ah, you've edited again

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 07:33 PM

ye xD

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:33 PM

No, I am not here. I want to leave, have a good evening )

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 07:33 PM

what the problem?

hello?

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 07:35 PM

@noby teecloud is currently under development

But legends say Anderson might be done this year

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:38 PM

what are bridge servers by the way? has someone implemented translation of tw 0.7 traffic to 0.6 servers?

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 07:38 PM

0.6 -> 0.7

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:39 PM

is it works in vanilla 0.6 client or need a patch?

I want my 0.7 mod to be accessible for 0.6 users, can I install this bridge? is it opensourced?

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 07:40 PM

ask @fokkonaut

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:40 PM

or is it magically translates just everything on every server?

ShootXen 02-Aug-20 07:40 PM

he wrote it

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:40 PM

you mean fokkonaut himself?

fokkonaut 02-Aug-20 07:40 PM

hi

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:40 PM

no way I will bother him asking

ah you've highlighted him already

fokkonaut 02-Aug-20 07:40 PM

I have a 0.7 server with 0.6 support (only ddnet clients, as they have tokens)

But the usual bridges are 0.6 ddnet to 0.7

i am the only mod having 0.7 to 0.6

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:41 PM

nice to know that

I've just seen this https://discord.com/channels/407308363031117832/490150878934990850/739525238685171732

fokkonaut 02-Aug-20 07:41 PM

but my mod is open src: https://github.com/fokkonaut/F-DDrace

fokkonaut/F-DDrace

F-DDrace is a server mod for Teeworlds 0.7 developed by fokkonaut. - fokkonaut/F-DDrace

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Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:42 PM

@Learath2 what are those bridge servers?

I have no permission to write to and IRC channel so I ask here

fokkonaut 02-Aug-20 07:42 PM

bridge servers translates the clients, so 0.7 and 0.6 players can play together

Learath2 02-Aug-20 07:42 PM

It's a translation layer

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:43 PM

Is it a separate process/service or has to be merged/built into a teeworlds server?

fokkonaut 02-Aug-20 07:43 PM

merge

its a quite big diff

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:43 PM

ah.... I've hoped that convinient magicaly translating services do exist

yeah, I guess

thanks a lot

Someone should make them a separate process. Too bad I have almost zero expertise in C++ or in tw internals (edited)

Would be nice if it could just take incoming 0.6 traffic and translate it to outbound 0.7 traffic (edited)

that would be a killer solution to all modders without an expertise to merge large amounts of esoteric code

Learath2 02-Aug-20 07:47 PM

It's not possible to translate outside the server

There is information that is lost that you need to craft the packets

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 07:49 PM

You mean that this hypotetical translator should maintain a state of many entities, right? (edited)

Learath2 02-Aug-20 07:50 PM

The amount of state you'd need to maintain. You'd just end up writing another teeworlds server

E.g. a 0.6 server when starting a vote essentially discards the vote type, but a 0.7 client needs the vote type

The translator would only see the callvote and voteset packets, which are not enough to know what happened and what kind of vote started/how it ended

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 08:27 PM

Can someone PLS help me fix my problem with my server port??????

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 08:43 PM

What port are you using?

Is it windows, Mac or linux machine?

Thanks for explaining @Learath2 I just hoped someone has already implemented the solution. But I suppose amount of work required to develop and maintain such a monster is just not worth it.

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 09:15 PM

@Pure_luck It's linux

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 09:16 PM

What port are you using?

$ grep sv_port autoexec.cfg

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 09:19 PM

what does that meen

Attachment: autoexec_1_server.cfg (6 KB)

Dror Maor 02-Aug-20 09:22 PM

are you playing music here again ?

grep means to search for something in your files, in the terminal

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 09:24 PM

for what?

Pure_luck 02-Aug-20 09:31 PM

why is it called autoexec_1_server.cfg? How do you start your server? (edited)

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 09:32 PM

i added the '1'

and to join my map, i need to go to f2 and do my rcon password, and to know what it is, i need to go to the terminal, cd to ddnet file, type ./DDNet-Server and it should show my rcon pw, but all what it sais is that server port 8310 mihte be alredy in use.

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 09:45 PM

NM, IT'S WOKING!!!

a gerdoe 02-Aug-20 09:45 PM

use another port

Betz&lel-$h&l0m 02-Aug-20 09:45 PM

PublicCroatian 03-Aug-20 05:31 AM

Joined the server.

Cheryl Bombshell 03-Aug-20 09:49 AM

Joined the server.

xfce 03-Aug-20 02:21 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 03-Aug-20 02:45 PM

troll join :0

PublicCroatian 03-Aug-20 02:47 PM

thatmoment

sebastián 03-Aug-20 06:00 PM

Joined the server.

sebastián 03-Aug-20 10:50 PM

Is this game still alive?

MarisaG 03-Aug-20 10:52 PM

Sure is!

Welcome

I run several servers

PublicCroatian 03-Aug-20 11:20 PM

i mean its not as popular as current games

but multiple hundreds of people still play

so i'd call it alive

HoCuS PoCuS! 04-Aug-20 12:42 AM

Joined the server.

Cryptic 04-Aug-20 01:14 AM

Joined the server.

MarisaG 04-Aug-20 03:37 AM

Hiya @HoCuS PoCuS! welcome

Jotaro 04-Aug-20 12:17 PM

Is this game still alive?

@sebastián ni

so dead and since my timezone is different from others almost everyone is sleeping when I play

Pure_luck 04-Aug-20 12:20 PM

@Jotaro alive, sure. There are 5 hours of everyday gameplay on my mod alone, next playtime will be at https://everytimezone.com/s/f25a5bd5 (edited)

Although I am focusing on making gameplay to be a non-stop 24/7

ask me for invite in PM if you want to. Also we have ~5 players in NYC timezone of total ~50-60 playerbase and a dedicated USA server with low ping. Feel free to become a founder of a NYC community on our server if you time zone is EDT (edited)

what's your timezone?

Pure_luck 04-Aug-20 01:15 PM

so we have to get a authbot for this irc server

It's so strange that in 2020 there are still ircnets w/o user auth services exist and a bot workaround should be used.

I've had installed auth services on all my IRCnets where I've been a founder/net-admin even if they were of a 2-3 servers size because it is easy. (edited)

Stiopa 05-Aug-20 06:23 PM

How does a system that makes a vote on round end based on the amount of players in lobby sound?

Pure_luck 05-Aug-20 08:01 PM

Isn't that problem is solved by creating another server with free slots?

If server is full, then it's popular. There should be a double for it for better overall capacity (edited)

Or I don't get the problem

Stiopa 05-Aug-20 08:20 PM

for a map

for example, if 6 players end a game in the lobby, ctf3 is suggested

!HowToDie 05-Aug-20 08:36 PM

i feel like there is only like 4 poeple online on this server or less

a gerdoe 05-Aug-20 08:37 PM

playercount-based map choosing system @Stiopa

Stiopa 05-Aug-20 09:18 PM

yep @a gerdoe

but it'd require probably some kind of "Playing" and "Not Playing" system, so that specs that do not want to play/are afk can go afk

a gerdoe 05-Aug-20 09:21 PM

this is a ready system in 0.7 i guess

Stiopa 05-Aug-20 09:21 PM

well, ready is for pausing mostly

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Jotaro 06-Aug-20 12:43 PM

so basically I'm not allowed to send any video

such a trash and boring server

Stiopa 06-Aug-20 12:46 PM

he came, he sent, and he left

Pure_luck 06-Aug-20 12:55 PM

Does anyone have something like a mod server owner checklist? I mean which counter-measures to apply (patches etc)

I've recently applied 0.7.5 security patch to 0.7.4 but I don't think it's enough

Dune 06-Aug-20 01:26 PM

Which security issue are you concerned about?

Hefaustas 06-Aug-20 02:18 PM

Joined the server.

cyberfighter 06-Aug-20 02:53 PM

rj

Stiopa 06-Aug-20 03:04 PM

rj

Pure_luck 06-Aug-20 05:02 PM

@Dune anything not fixed in vanilla 0.7 mainline but that can be exploited to DDoS or DoS my server.

I'm sure that if a severity of known issue with code will be high enough and it could be fixed without any substantial drawbacks it will be on the mainline. (edited)

But maybe there are some patches or techniques mod server admins are applying to fight DDoS or exploits which couldn't be fixed in mainline for some reason. For example they have side-effects I dunno.

I just see ppl are constantly fighting DDoS and I want to be ready just in case. (edited)

Dune 06-Aug-20 05:06 PM

If there is any exploit that allows a DoS on 0.7 servers it should be reported

All known exploits are fixed or largely mitigated

andyfrain 06-Aug-20 05:06 PM

can anyone help with the issue on the screen below? i cant join some servers

️ https://pix.my/sbmkRB

sbmkRB

Share screenshots with your friends all over the world for free!

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Dune 06-Aug-20 05:07 PM

DDoS is not software specific afaik

Pure_luck 06-Aug-20 05:07 PM

Yeah, just DoS.

Dune 06-Aug-20 05:07 PM

@andyfrain andyfrainhm, on a ctf5 map?

andyfrain 06-Aug-20 05:07 PM

@Dune yepp

Dune 06-Aug-20 05:08 PM

@Pure_luck no known unfixed exploit afaik

@andyfrain client version?

andyfrain 06-Aug-20 05:09 PM

@Dune 0.7.4 win64

Pure_luck 06-Aug-20 05:09 PM

I've had this issue as @andyfrain on 0.7.3 but I cannot be sure it's gone on 0.7.5 cause I don't remember what server caused it

@andyfrain can you give me a server ip/name? I want to check. (edited)

andyfrain 06-Aug-20 05:11 PM

@Pure_luck this one for instance 54.38.138.169:8303

Dune 06-Aug-20 05:11 PM

there are no client changes in 0.7.4-0.7.5

Pure_luck 06-Aug-20 05:11 PM

I'm, connecting ok to it on 0.7.5

I have this error on 0.7.4

Dune 06-Aug-20 05:12 PM

hm, I have no trouble connecting on 0.7.5

andyfrain 06-Aug-20 05:12 PM

ok, i'll try to download new ver. thx

Pure_luck 06-Aug-20 05:13 PM

For some reason I am getting "unable to connect to a server" on 0.7.5 F-Client

Dune 06-Aug-20 05:13 PM

it's a bit odd. did we somehow tweak the mapchecker between 0.7.4 and 0.7.5?

Pure_luck 06-Aug-20 05:13 PM

Maybe this server owner is banning some clients somehow?

I have modded my 0.7.4. Don't have a vanilla one. But vanilla 0.7.3 was giving me similar error on some servers before upgrading to 0.7.5 (edited)

Ah... joined by F-client

andyfrain 06-Aug-20 05:16 PM

repaired with updation to 0.7.5. thx @Pure_luck

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ReiTW 06-Aug-20 07:44 PM

@Pure_luck the only "stupid" thing that has been done is people who wanted to make a 0.7 server compatible with 0.6. They just "removed" fixes that were implemented on 0.7 against some DoS specific attacks

0.6 to 0.7 np, 0.7 to 0.6 is like: you can't overreact if your server gets targeted, because you've just opened a breach for ddosers

+ as far as I know we already discussed with some people about what should be done to really protect the server, we're a lot to ask for tcp sessions for new conns, and udp for ingame data

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fokkonaut 07-Aug-20 04:50 AM

@jason54 are you Hector Xavier?

jason54 07-Aug-20 04:50 AM

?

No

Why

fokkonaut 07-Aug-20 04:50 AM

Read #bridge

jason54 07-Aug-20 04:53 AM

@fokkonaut wtf everything comes back on my head really the worst guy there's plenty of other person who steals your server and I'm not Russian but French

fokkonaut 07-Aug-20 04:54 AM

Maybe you should have never stole my mod, then nobody would suspect you

What if you used a translator to confuse me, so I think its not you?

jason54 07-Aug-20 04:55 AM

should not put it in open source idiot

fokkonaut 07-Aug-20 04:55 AM

So its you

lmao

jason54 07-Aug-20 04:56 AM

you are really a child

fokkonaut 07-Aug-20 04:56 AM

Why dont you just use the mod as it is, without changing mod name and credits?

jason54 07-Aug-20 04:57 AM

when will you understand that it's not me

fokkonaut 07-Aug-20 04:58 AM

mmh, you use a translator again right now, I see that you only type for 0.1sec

trust me, it will come back to you at one day :)

jason54 07-Aug-20 04:59 AM

yes i use a translator because i don't speak english

what will come back?

fokkonaut 07-Aug-20 05:00 AM

can you translator translate to russian?

your*

jason54 07-Aug-20 05:01 AM

what do you want me to say

fokkonaut 07-Aug-20 05:01 AM

good night

jason54 07-Aug-20 05:01 AM

спокойной ночи

!HowToDie 07-Aug-20 09:38 AM

helo

ReiTW 07-Aug-20 09:41 AM

@fokkonaut nice, instead of targeting people like that without any proof, you should stay calm & stop acting like a kid

@jason54 just block him for now if he annoys you, while he doesn't have any proof that it is you doing that, it's a stupid situation

Pure_luck 07-Aug-20 10:33 AM

Is that even 'stealing'? What license has this mod? Does it prevent someone modificating it or running? (edited)

And is it enforces server admin to have something specific in motd?

I am currently fork/modding infCroya and soon it will be infLuck just because it is not infCroya anymore because I've added a lot of classes and game mechanic updates which original author of the mod (yavl) didn't approved. Is that a violation too? (edited)

a gerdoe 07-Aug-20 11:17 AM

adding new features != steal mod without any addition (i dont know about whole situation, so i cant say it truthful) (edited)

Sabu 07-Aug-20 12:42 PM

Joined the server.

Patiga 07-Aug-20 12:49 PM

@Pure_luck depends on the license. but no matter whether the license enforces it or not, you should definitely make it clear what your mod is based on and credit accordingly

RyanTW 07-Aug-20 12:57 PM

Joined the server.

Tflow 07-Aug-20 04:19 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 07-Aug-20 04:54 PM

@Sabu @RyanTW @Tflow are part of the "lulzsec" clan

Xavier contact information pls.

a gerdoe 07-Aug-20 04:57 PM

круто мод украли... вы хоть добавили в него чего-нибудь?

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jxsl13 07-Aug-20 04:59 PM

they don't speak russian, that's just trolling

~~lulzsec were some france based~~ hackers operating as part of the Anonymous collective. that's where they got that name from. (edited)

didn't read much into it, but that's the gist of the name.

hm, should have read more, seemingly the name of the "leader" was french.

and Sabu being the alias of Hector Xavier Monsegur (edited)

ReiTW 07-Aug-20 05:33 PM

lmao RyanTW looks a bit like "ReiTW"

3

Pure_luck 07-Aug-20 07:24 PM

that could make a nice meme

fokkonaut 07-Aug-20 07:46 PM

xd

Iman 07-Aug-20 08:54 PM

do somebody knows what is this mod ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8KH7Z0J2vM

TwNeon

Teeworlds - Neon]Yannik & [Neon]TheGnaa running HpRaces.wmv

In this Video we are running some HpRaces: HpRace_castle, HpRace_dk, HpRace_intoxication, HpRace_Snow, HpRace_pinkworld

ShootXen 07-Aug-20 09:12 PM

HpRace?

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4474

[MOD] HpRace 2.0 (Page 1) — Fan Art and Other — Teeworlds Forum

[MOD] HpRace 2.0 (Page 1) — Fan Art and Other — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

@Iman

Iman 07-Aug-20 09:14 PM

thx !

Stiopa 07-Aug-20 09:21 PM

feels like 0.5 :d

a gerdoe 07-Aug-20 09:21 PM

that's it

ShootXen 07-Aug-20 09:42 PM

there is a 0.6.1 port

a gerdoe 07-Aug-20 09:44 PM

oh, i thought about video xd

Stiopa 08-Aug-20 12:09 AM

In your opinion, what are the most iconic maps of tw?

in general

Souly 08-Aug-20 12:13 AM

i would say ctf5, multimap_less, aip-gores

Iman 08-Aug-20 12:14 AM

previous ones plus ctf1 ctf2 ctf3 dm1 and ctf4_old

Stiopa 08-Aug-20 01:02 AM

ctf5 ctf2 aip-gores epix dm1

heinrich5991 08-Aug-20 01:04 AM

in the past: xyz_ddrace2, hotrun

jxsl13 08-Aug-20 01:28 AM

runguy25

Iman 08-Aug-20 01:29 AM

oh ye

Blade 08-Aug-20 01:32 AM

aip-gores xyz_ddrace2 dm1

Stiopa 08-Aug-20 01:47 AM

xyz_ddrace2 was the one with the

very characteristic default ddrace?

right?

Welf 08-Aug-20 01:55 AM

xyz_ddrace2 was the map with the 0.5 towerbug

Stiopa 08-Aug-20 01:56 AM

oh yeah I remember that one

definitely iconic

all of the suggested maps are quite iconic

Blade 08-Aug-20 02:03 AM

@Welf omg that tower bug! memories .. just stacking then flying up and left haha (edited)

Alexander_ 08-Aug-20 03:11 AM

kobra

RyanTW 08-Aug-20 05:01 AM

he want ddos us

fokkonaut 08-Aug-20 05:03 AM

xd

cry more little mod stealer, they know the story here

slinacK 08-Aug-20 05:10 AM

iconic maps: beachfight, pirates and lost, ctf_space, desert_camp

that big map with flying ships

from default ctf4 tru and ctf2 ofc

the football map & table tennis map for Ball

jxsl13 08-Aug-20 07:29 AM

lol, idiots.

Piwakea Glitch 08-Aug-20 07:30 AM

Joined the server.

add this to the game

Attachment: PHOENIX.mp4 (2.06 MB)

jxsl13 08-Aug-20 07:31 AM

that's usually shown around the first of april ingame.

Pure_luck 08-Aug-20 09:28 AM

Has anyone encountered this bug in 0.7? map is loaded with white background, client CPU went 100% and game became very slow

jxsl13 08-Aug-20 09:34 AM

map is most likely missing the background and rendering buggy garbage that looks like white?

Pure_luck 08-Aug-20 09:36 AM

I don't know what's going on in the client, but probably. Map is loading fine any other time. I haven't changed the mapfile, it's my server. I haven't changed anything in client too. (edited)

ᶰ°Konͧsti 08-Aug-20 01:14 PM

Anyone here has a contact to the player Moby Dog?

Dune 08-Aug-20 01:26 PM

Not impossible to be a rare client bug

redix 08-Aug-20 07:37 PM

before tabbing out there was a map in the background

happens from time to time

jxsl13 08-Aug-20 10:11 PM

https://forum.jxsl13.de flarum test instance (moderation tools are super limited, same as punbb)

https://discord.gg/TaeDZf

A Teeworlds support forum!

does not allow uploading user content :'/

jxsl13 09-Aug-20 07:39 AM

uploads actually possible ._. but a pain in the ass if you are not a php webdev...

Stiopa 09-Aug-20 07:09 PM

I love pulling old maps from heinrich's website... can be a trip down memory lane

ShootXen 09-Aug-20 07:25 PM

how is the map called?

jxsl13 09-Aug-20 07:27 PM

looks like a monster map.

or is that a race map?

Pure_luck 09-Aug-20 07:34 PM

@Stiopa tell me if you will find some nice inf/infc maps

Stiopa 09-Aug-20 07:48 PM

ze_ibnd

for zombie escape

itsdarrylnorris 09-Aug-20 09:51 PM

Joined the server.

skao 10-Aug-20 07:52 AM

Joined the server.

The_Nutella_ 10-Aug-20 11:57 AM

Stiopa 10-Aug-20 12:08 PM

2017 all over again!

Dune 10-Aug-20 12:11 PM

By making 0.7 servera compatible with 0.6, you open yourself to 0.6 vulnerabilities

AkaFad 10-Aug-20 12:32 PM

i have a random question about the discord server

what is the @irclink bot ?

ReiTW 10-Aug-20 12:34 PM

@AkaFad linking chat from an irc server to discord

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat

Internet Relay Chat

Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is an application layer protocol that facilitates communication in the form of text. The chat process works on a client/server networking model. IRC clients are computer programs that users can install on their system or web based applications running...

AkaFad 10-Aug-20 12:34 PM

oh ok

yee 10-Aug-20 03:46 PM

Joined the server.

skao 10-Aug-20 10:32 PM

does this game have a tutorial

jxsl13 10-Aug-20 10:32 PM

not really, that would be a great addition tho.

you got any questions regarding that, I'm ready to help :)

?

skao 10-Aug-20 10:35 PM

I played a very similar game to this before, I'm having trouble understanding the advanced movement though

Like how to build up speed quickly and from what I understand speed grapple

jxsl13 10-Aug-20 10:35 PM

the grappling hook?

skao 10-Aug-20 10:36 PM

Yeah

jxsl13 10-Aug-20 10:36 PM

in general?

you can kind of direct your movement while hooking by using the movement keys.

so you swing

in one or another direction.

well, multimap has a part close to the end where you need to build up some speed, which is kind of what you mean I guess. this helps with wider jumps (edited)

I'm no ddrace pro, tho.

skao 10-Aug-20 10:39 PM

Also one thing I need to get used to is the grapple

It feels short to me

Vs Kugeln where I could be on Mars and somehow get grapple combod to death

Also the grenade launcher feels so satisfyingly to me

jxsl13 10-Aug-20 10:40 PM

depending on how long you press the right mouse button

your hook retracts when you let go of the mouse

Dune 10-Aug-20 10:43 PM

@skao the grenade launcher is only satisfying when you're the one using it :D

jxsl13 10-Aug-20 10:44 PM

is multimap of law down?

rip my multimap life, I guess

skao 10-Aug-20 10:44 PM

Airshoting someone feels like I just stole their will to life

jxsl13 10-Aug-20 10:45 PM

cool that ddnet has got sout african servers

south

even china

Dune 10-Aug-20 10:45 PM

now try getting the flag and shooting grenades behind you

jxsl13 10-Aug-20 10:45 PM

in vanilla

a gerdoe 10-Aug-20 10:45 PM

and don't die

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jxsl13 10-Aug-20 10:45 PM

and die

1

@Trafalgar Law you awake?

are you online, @skao?

I wonder if you can learn movement (at least the basic) on zCatch, I guess basic race is best for that, but race is super monotonous in that regard. (edited)

skao 10-Aug-20 10:51 PM

I am here

Sorry I'm not online I'm doing stuff rn

;(

jxsl13 10-Aug-20 10:51 PM

ok

Trafalgar Law 11-Aug-20 06:53 AM

Now yea

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 07:03 AM

well, I could not find your server, was sad, thought the final day had come.

but at some point it could be found again.

Trafalgar Law 11-Aug-20 01:44 PM

Final day is 16.10.20

Learath2 11-Aug-20 01:57 PM

Why is there an expiry date to your server?

noby 11-Aug-20 02:01 PM

i think he is tired of dealing with ddos shit

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:35 PM

master 1-3 cant be spoofed, as they're also located at ovh as your server

why don't we just use signing with SSL to confirm that messages were originated from the right server? (edited)

@Mr_Anderson

redix 11-Aug-20 04:42 PM

like the tw servers, the masterservers use a custom udp protocol without any ssl/tls stuff

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:43 PM

why don't we incorporate SSL signing into a protocol then? (edited)

redix 11-Aug-20 04:44 PM

the masterserver should just be based on https

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:44 PM

it's just a matter of calling OpenSSL function to sign a packet and adding a signature field to a packet

that could be even better, right (edited)

but seems that adding a https transport for master server stalled right?

redix 11-Aug-20 04:45 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1703

HTTPS master · Issue #1703 · teeworlds/teeworlds

@heinrich5991 : HTTPS (definitely with S) for the master server list, preferably with all the server infos already (would also make the refresh faster) #1395

so far nobody implemented it

several people started i think, but none finished it

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:46 PM

Are master server sources opensourced too?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 04:46 PM

reimplement in rust or go :0 if it's the master servers

they are in the tw source

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:47 PM

so theoretically I can start my own teeworld network with my own master servers as a playground right?

with just teeworlds souces

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 04:47 PM

yes, I think persians are doing that?

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:48 PM

nice. Why rust and go?

I though that all sources in tw are plain C++?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 04:48 PM

easier, I'd bet

they are.

well, client would need that as well, so I guess there should be some shared source code in c++ for that anyway :'/

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:50 PM

are there any design docs on how master servers work? or everything are just in sources?

yeah, client could do usual REST API call

why is master 4 so special? is it located in other datacenter for reliability sake? (edited)

ah... game servers not hosted where 1-3 are vulnerable to master server spoofing too hm

nevermind

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 04:54 PM

"design docs" xD

the source code are the design docs

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:54 PM

ah right

I've just came from another world it seems

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 04:54 PM

from a better world maybe ;D

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:55 PM

yeah, where knowledge sharing is one of vital elements of develplent

and also (some) planning is

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 04:56 PM

preferrable https://msgpack.org/?

?

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 04:56 PM

dunno, I don't think it matter honestly

even plain JSON could be ok

from my perspective game servers <-> master servers interchange are not time sensitive and do not produce a lot of traffic

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 04:58 PM

that's why a lot of stuff should be redone starting with some concept document

people want the master servers to also hold the server information like current playercount

so you do not ask the masters for a list of IPs only, but also all that info you'd fetch from the individual servers

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:00 PM

what master servers currently do? are they just a directory of game servers which store a basic server info and state like name, game type, current player count, slots, version, restrictions?

redix 11-Aug-20 05:00 PM

that would require a rather high update rate =\

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:00 PM

they give you a list of ips

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:01 PM

that would require a rather high update rate =\

how high? once a sec? it's not a highload

redix 11-Aug-20 05:01 PM

the servers need to report their current status to the master

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:01 PM

and could be done via websocket instead of rest

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:01 PM

every 10 secs or so

redix 11-Aug-20 05:02 PM

yeah 10 sec would be max

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:02 PM

i think that's the server heartbeat

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:02 PM

they could just open websocket connection and leave it opened and use it as a message bus

bidirectional one

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:02 PM

c++ implementation :D

redix 11-Aug-20 05:02 PM

just requires additional libs on server side

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:02 PM

that way https://stats.resamvi.io/#/ works

which is overkill for resavmi though

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:03 PM

switch to rust?

better package management :D

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:04 PM

one in 10 sec is doable with REST API though it will have some neglectable overhead

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:04 PM

or rather dependency management

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:04 PM

we don't need websocket much, it was just an idea (edited)

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:04 PM

problem: realtime player count

instead of periodically exchanging info, the masters would prederrably request that just in time.

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:05 PM

is realtime player count already in udp proto? (edited)

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:05 PM

yes, you request that from the infividual server yourself, tho

individual

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:06 PM

are you serious?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:06 PM

yes

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:06 PM

u mean that a client fetches from master servers a lot of info but not client count?

redix 11-Aug-20 05:06 PM

right now it only fetches the ips

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:06 PM

you fetch the IP list from master and ask every server for playercount etc (edited)

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:06 PM

oh

redix 11-Aug-20 05:06 PM

everything you see in the severbrowser comes from the servers itself

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:06 PM

so master servers don't even search?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:06 PM

no

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:07 PM

they just like giving a list of ips?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:07 PM

yes

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:07 PM

ok

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:07 PM

well, you need to fetch from every master server, as each holds like 75 IPs and all of those IPs are not shared between the masters

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:08 PM

oh

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:08 PM

kind of balancing

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:08 PM

ok

I thought master servers are for redundancy

but they're more like sharding

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:08 PM

yes

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:09 PM

so disrupting any server immediately affects the whole system?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:09 PM

redundancy would be cool if the masters were located all over the globe

not really

it just affects the one masterserver if you meant masterserver (edited)

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:10 PM

yeah I got that

so technicaly we don't have any redundancy now?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:10 PM

no

not that I know of, other might know way more than I do.

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:11 PM

who was the latest person trying to implement a secondary protocol?

and was it in 2018 too?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:12 PM

Inthink there might be some prototypes for different master server approaches

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:12 PM

I could implement serverside in ruby in like 3 days.

but that's ruby, I just know it well

it's slow compared to go

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:13 PM

Oh Yeah! Go is awesome xD

and fun! (edited)

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:13 PM

it is. Just I know ruby much better

redix 11-Aug-20 05:14 PM

for the masterserver people already did prototypes in python, go and probably some other languages =\

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:15 PM

@redix don't you remember someone who did it?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:15 PM

ryozuki did a go version, iirc

heinrich in rust? or am I mistaken?

I mean go does http out of the box and with some package also https via let's encrypt

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:17 PM

the problematic thing isn't the server side, it's the client side

and the game server side

redix 11-Aug-20 05:17 PM

but i think they all missed dual stack support (glue ipv4 and ipv6 addresses together via a token) and backward compatibility for the old udp stuff

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:17 PM

the master server side was like a 100 line python script

@redix the game servers would probably continuously update their info with the master servers

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:18 PM

master can be an ez peaz language, server and client will have to be c++

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:18 PM

so that those always have up-to-date info

redix 11-Aug-20 05:18 PM

how often?

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:18 PM

via the heartbeat

15s, or on change, ratelimited to 1s

is what I thought

redix 11-Aug-20 05:18 PM

yeah that might be okay

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:19 PM

interesting questions: how are favorites handled? how are LAN requests handled?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:20 PM

ehm, concept paper?

for people to add their mustard (hehe)

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:21 PM

Ok, I've started to organize info. Behold the first teeworlds docs on master servers https://www.notion.so/influck/teeworlds-master-servers-ffd3a83022e345e6a0eb8303accba440

redix 11-Aug-20 05:21 PM

as long as we dont want another compatibility break the server needs to support the old info requests anyway

1

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:22 PM

having multiple masters is a redundancy way (edited)

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:22 PM

0.8 be protocol rework

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:22 PM

why break compatibility if you don't have to?

Dune 11-Aug-20 05:23 PM

^

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:24 PM

I feel like 0.7 protocol had quite some issues, that were(?) resolved. like the snap issue with lots of players being online?

making it look broken from the get go in 0.7

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:24 PM

@redix I'd want to have favorites use the https masters, too: they load instantly and don't need to pinged one-by-one

redix 11-Aug-20 05:25 PM

about having the server info on the master... this moves away from the decentralized character of the game. i would be okay with that but would Oy?

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:25 PM

it would make the server list load instantly

it's a bit bad that we still have only one person allowed to accept code

(btw, sorry, offtopic)

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:26 PM

hot to get server info without master

how

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:27 PM

ping each server individually, with the list you got from the masters

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:27 PM

why ping

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:27 PM

but it is almost the current state of things isn't it?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:27 PM

how to get info WITHOUT masters xD?

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:27 PM

you don't

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:27 PM

lan broken

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:28 PM

it's the bootstrap problem of peer to peer networks

all solutions are bandaid

lan is broadcast

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:28 PM

hosting a server depends on having an internet connection and a connection to the masters

single point of failure

masters

down

all servers down

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:29 PM

anyone can still just connect to any IP from a client right?

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:29 PM

if all masters are down, then yes

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:29 PM

and fav it even if that's a lan IP address

I mean intranet one

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:29 PM

cannot handle favorites

redix 11-Aug-20 05:29 PM

just one note: the 0.7 masterserver protocol uses tokens to prevent spoofing

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:29 PM

as they deoend in master servers

well, the uodates do, my bad

uodates

rip

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:30 PM

@jxsl13 I'm not sure what you're doing. yes, we need a solution for servers not registered with the masters, that's obvious

is it just you trying to point that out?

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:30 PM

@redix still it's udp

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:30 PM

or is it something different?

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:30 PM

some hosts like ovh would filter tcp attacks way before it reaches the server @redix

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:30 PM

it's that for the most part

redix 11-Aug-20 05:30 PM

quic from google is udp aswell

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:30 PM

!!!

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:31 PM

we've started this discussion trying to solve spoofing problem right?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:31 PM

did quic make having that whole let's encrypt certification stuff obsolete?

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:31 PM

@jxsl13 no

@Pure_luck that's already solved in 0.7

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:32 PM

there is no spoofing problem?

hm k

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:32 PM

really?

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:32 PM

yes

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:32 PM

oh

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:32 PM

but a lot of people still use 0.6, which does have that problem

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:33 PM

EastByte 2k15 zCatch patch, never forget.

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:34 PM

0.6 state

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:34 PM

omg what is using 200 Mbps of incoming bandwidth?

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:34 PM

teeworlds DoS

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:34 PM

you got 500 concurrent players?

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:35 PM

vali is back, but no lags

:v

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:35 PM

@ReiTW what is that program?

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:35 PM

nload

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:36 PM

EastByte was the first one to add the token stuff, never forget! :D

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:37 PM

master4 is for 0.6 only?

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:37 PM

@Pure_luck status.tw

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:37 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/986 @jxsl13 I see 2012

Added tokens to the network and refactored master server code (plea...

Summary Prevents ip spoofing of (hopefully) any kind: master server attack (see mailinglist) server flood attack session hijacking faking server info Protocol change The new network protocol head...

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:37 PM

lol wut

master4 having issues?

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:38 PM

so... it's not the fokkonaut's server is DoS'ed but master servers

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:38 PM

oof, my life is a lie

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:39 PM

fokkonaut's server registers on 0.6 masters

that's where his problems are

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:39 PM

man, I remember, weren't 0.6 masters like vulnerable to DoS?

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:39 PM

yes, trivially

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:39 PM

@fokkonaut is that it?

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:40 PM

backwards compatibility ftw :0

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:40 PM

I also sure he also have DoS on his server too

I've wanted to implement some system to mitigate that on serverside today

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:41 PM

how would one do that :0?

mind explaining?

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:42 PM

you won't be able to do that much on 0.6 side

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:42 PM

the mitigation that is

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:42 PM

I was going to make a separate web auth system which pushes authed user ip to a db linux server on which game server is hosted could fetch that ip to temporaly whitelist it repeat the process of fetching ips in cronjob -> iptables -> profit (edited)

heinrich5991 11-Aug-20 05:43 PM

that would probably work, but wouldn't really be compatible

in that system, it's hard to discover your server

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:43 PM

oh

client still needed to fetch a info from the game server right?

before authenticating

right

redix 11-Aug-20 05:44 PM

and new clients need to be able to connect

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:44 PM

true. or they wouldn't be able to know what they're missing and how to connect

but that info could be in server description

but still server should answer to user fetch server request you're right

thanks a lot, I've missed that

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:46 PM

would be interessierng to use the server password instead a web UI for that, but that would be on game server level, not on the linux iptables level. one confirmation per 24h

redix 11-Aug-20 05:46 PM

several hosts also provide firewalls on their network level. if you update these rules depending on the established connections that would be even better. but no new clients then

noby 11-Aug-20 05:46 PM

rei the 200mbits doesnt look like much

but when u consider that were getting half a million packets every second

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:46 PM

well still better than what others receive :v

noby 11-Aug-20 05:46 PM

that kinda puts it into perspective

the funny part is that it doesnt lag atall xd

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:47 PM

receives player traffic only

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:47 PM

xD

noby 11-Aug-20 05:47 PM

isnt it spoofed connection/info requests

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:47 PM

both

noby 11-Aug-20 05:47 PM

ye

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

still i'm not sure about inforeq, wouldn't it have outgoing traffic?

didn't check the in traff

noby 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

rx: 216.44 Mbit/s 450569 p/s tx: 4.17 Mbit/s 4925 p/s

yea i guess not info

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

4.17 is normal

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

info requests use tokens?

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

not sure on ddnet side

noby 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

its a tiny bit higher than normal

but not much

redix 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

in 0.7 yes

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

0.6 ddnet?

noby 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

bombay is 0.6 server

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

hm k

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:48 PM

we're vanilla based but with ddnet based netcode

noby 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

i fixed it last night lol

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

now you are ddnet based?

noby 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

the netcode is

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

xD

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

some part yes xD

I mean, it's still vanilla source, noby only took some code from ddnet

noby 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

ye

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

I mean niby sneakily replacing everything with ddnet code

niby

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

noby 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

niby

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:49 PM

noby

onbgy is easier to write

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:50 PM

@noby is your server dual protocol like fokkonaut's? (edited)

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:50 PM

:p

noby 11-Aug-20 05:50 PM

my server started out as 10.8.6 ddnet (so .6) and i patched in 0.7 support mostly from timakros code on unique race server

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:50 PM

or is it 0.6 with some DDNet countermeasures like token?

noby 11-Aug-20 05:50 PM

and fng code ofc

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:50 PM

@Pure_luck bombay = 0.6 only and supports 256p

noby 11-Aug-20 05:50 PM

no it IS ddnet

that i turned back into fng (edited)

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:51 PM

(splitted into multiple maps)

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:51 PM

wat, that many :o

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:51 PM

dunno what bombay is

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:51 PM

0.7 when?

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:51 PM

yep, we have multimap, 64p per map, and 256p max

@Pure_luck the big v3 server on 0.6

noby 11-Aug-20 05:51 PM

bombay is reis server

ye blmap v3 royal map

Stiopa 11-Aug-20 05:51 PM

is it located in bombay?

noby 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

yes everyone has 500 ping

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

no lmao

Stiopa 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

wasted potential

noby 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

lol

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

Mumbai

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

bombay = ovh strasbourg

1

Stiopa 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

false advertising

ReiTW 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

no u

noby 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

i only know a few tw players from india

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

look at the avatars

noby 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

meanwhile theres like a million from germany

Stiopa 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

wait, there are tw players from india?

noby 11-Aug-20 05:52 PM

not many but ye

Stiopa 11-Aug-20 05:53 PM

huh. interesting

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:53 PM

that has a reason

dating back to like 2009

noby 11-Aug-20 05:53 PM

tw is everywehere

there were a couple ppl from nigeria playing yday on my server lol

Stiopa 11-Aug-20 05:54 PM

would be great if tw was everywhere with sizeable player amounts

noby 11-Aug-20 05:54 PM

true

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:54 PM

I've seen from people nigeria too (edited)

too bad we will not see ppl from Belarus for some time

noby 11-Aug-20 05:55 PM

rip

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:55 PM

is on fire there?

noby 11-Aug-20 05:55 PM

they shutdown the inet

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:55 PM

lol

noby 11-Aug-20 05:55 PM

cus corrupt and trying to fuck over the election or something

i think

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:56 PM

they're almost shutted down, there is like civil war

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:56 PM

might be exactly that

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:56 PM

police and army is there just hitting and shooting innocent civilians on the streets (edited)

today I think they will shut down internet completely cause civilians are coordinating trough it)

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:57 PM

I think nowadays getting cut off from the internet is one of few reason for people to riot.

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:57 PM

no, it was the opposite way this time

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:57 PM

it will only get worse if they are cut off from the internet

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:57 PM

yes, it's scary

to have a dictator fighting his own ppl with army is one thiung

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:58 PM

as more people will fo outside

go

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 05:58 PM

and no internet to tell anybody about is worse

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 05:58 PM

rip..

Stiopa 11-Aug-20 06:00 PM

worst of all

no teeworlds for them

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 06:02 PM

they have infection mod on streets though

or a TDM one... (edited)

Stiopa 11-Aug-20 06:04 PM

where one side has control over the map, shotguns, guns and the other only hammers

redix 11-Aug-20 06:20 PM

has anyone here ever checked the issues with the version server? it does not even send a token back =\

Pure_luck 11-Aug-20 06:22 PM

oh... if a master servers don't have info about player count, how status.tw knows it? (edited)

does it have a separate service to fetch info from servers @jxsl13 ? (edited)

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 06:31 PM

protocol problems, classic.

status.tw periodically, like every 5 minutes, fetches server data from the whole serverlist (edited)

if many ppl do that that's bad. (edited)

getting a ton of traffic

HalfNoob 11-Aug-20 06:37 PM

someone probably reported this but half the U.S players can't see U.S servers and can't load the DDnet website

but I could do both these things when I changed my IP to a german IP

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 06:38 PM

lol, aren't there like US based ddnet servers

HalfNoob 11-Aug-20 06:39 PM

mhm but half the players that play on those U.S servers only see the IP and 999 ping

and can't connect

when you refresh it stops at 72%

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 06:40 PM

udp problems, classic

would ask heinrich

HalfNoob 11-Aug-20 06:41 PM

ok thx

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 06:41 PM

meaning: ask @heinrich5991 xD, np

Trafalgar Law 11-Aug-20 08:12 PM

Why is there an expiry date to your server?

@Learath2 Noby said it, i'm done with dealing ddos attacks and have not enough motivation/time to host servers

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 09:28 PM

meh, multimap is down, @Trafalgar Law :'c

Trafalgar Law 11-Aug-20 09:31 PM

Nah just the mastersrvs are under ddos @jxsl13

laws-server.de:8310

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 09:34 PM

0.7 masters?

did you open your server for 0.6 crap?

rip

Trafalgar Law 11-Aug-20 09:42 PM

Its 0.6 + 0.7 yea

Bridge to 0.7

Dune 11-Aug-20 09:43 PM

so they have 0.6 vulnerabilities

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 09:45 PM

but does loosing 0.6 master mean loosing 0.7 as well?

why

whyyyyyyyy

jxsl13 11-Aug-20 10:05 PM

server being ddosed meh

whyyyyyyyyyy

Assa 11-Aug-20 10:25 PM

playing teeworlds with 20% packet loss is fun, fuck vodafone

Dune 11-Aug-20 10:26 PM

tried non-chillerdragon servers?

Trafalgar Law 11-Aug-20 10:28 PM

xd

Assa 11-Aug-20 10:29 PM

i measured my package loss with "ping 8.8.8.8 -n 999"

if I can't reach google, I don't believe it's googles fault (ever)

louis 12-Aug-20 05:21 AM

https://youtu.be/2KdBfdNsHjo

louis

this cursed teeworlds video will make you uncomfortable...

very cursed thx to hfy

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Betz&lel-$h&l0m 12-Aug-20 07:09 AM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 12-Aug-20 09:54 AM

:t

Pure_luck 12-Aug-20 12:40 PM

if 0.7 is not vulnerable to spoofing and DDoS levels are mediocre then what is happening now? (edited)

redix 12-Aug-20 01:45 PM

one downside of not pinging all servers and have the serverinfo on a http master instead: no ping value in the serverbrowser =\

Learath2 12-Aug-20 01:59 PM

We can estimate the ping

redix 12-Aug-20 02:00 PM

nah... i'd rather add optional pinging for certain filters. For example just ping the servers in favourites

ReiTW 12-Aug-20 02:09 PM

@Pure_luck 0.7 is fine

TsFreddie 12-Aug-20 02:32 PM

Assa 12-Aug-20 04:50 PM

possible estimate: user_to_msv_ping + msv_to_server_ping, but i would rather ping viewed servers on demand instead of all (edited)

Learath2 12-Aug-20 04:54 PM

How about an estimate and when you click on the server it actually pings it?

jxsl13 12-Aug-20 05:02 PM

bomb omb tee

Assa 12-Aug-20 05:04 PM

lil boomer

jxsl13 12-Aug-20 05:04 PM

my gut feeling says that that estimation is kinda always the worst case of ping one would have

so making server pings actually properly comparable

Assa 12-Aug-20 05:05 PM

my estimator would meet your condition

Pure_luck 12-Aug-20 05:34 PM

Why don't client just caches all previous responses on disk?

he could even cache it

Learath2 12-Aug-20 05:34 PM

There are a couple clients doing it

Pure_luck 12-Aug-20 05:35 PM

and as players filters servers in list client could only refresh those which are on screen

Learath2 12-Aug-20 05:35 PM

We considered it for ddnet, but back when we considered it, the masterserver ddos wasn't as bad

Pure_luck 12-Aug-20 05:35 PM

it's not about masterservers only, it's about a burst of network requests client does at the start (edited)

and the time he has to wait before actually filtering (3-20 secs)

this list should be populated from a disk snapshot, client could just do a full refresh as usual

but this refresh should not just delete everything and start from the start but update already fetched info info instead

right now refresh button acts like that -- it just deletes everything

I know there are 4 master servers which shards game servers and in case one is down one may hit refresh several times before that master responds

but if we should cache master lists and also game servers info we could make this button obsolete

cause background process could refresh only those servers which are on screen

and new servers could just be added as information arrives from master

I know there is situation when game server owner turning registration intentionally for some (weird) reasons, but this is rare

@Learath2 don't you remember which clients implements some caching?

F-Client?

Learath2 12-Aug-20 05:43 PM

Don't remember, sorry :/

You could search for it in the ddnet github issues. I think the person who suggested it said which client did it

Could be ATH

Pure_luck 12-Aug-20 05:43 PM

nice thanks

Dune 12-Aug-20 05:44 PM

Didn't you do a caching PR for the srvbrowser @Learath2

Learath2 12-Aug-20 05:45 PM

I don't remember making one

jxsl13 12-Aug-20 06:35 PM

people are ranting about the new infection servers being too complex (edited)

just leaving that here

redix 12-Aug-20 06:45 PM

I'm not sure if such a ping estimate would really be useful. That would also require the masterserver to ping all the servers. From the heartbeat https requests you probably don't get useful info about the ping.

There is at least a serverlist.json which stores the ips from the masterserver

The serverinfo from each server would be too outdated when it's loaded from a file. Maybe the name but everything else would not be useful anymore

Learath2 12-Aug-20 07:01 PM

Yeah only caching the name sounds the most useful

@redix such a ping would give you an idea how far the server is and the heartbeat from the server can include a timestamp, atomic clocks are fairly accurate and modern cpus don't drift that much

but yes it could be wildly inaccurate as that's not how routing works

redix 12-Aug-20 07:03 PM

well it's probably better than not having a ping value at all

Assa 12-Aug-20 07:07 PM

that is not how routing works, BUT its very unlikely that a route is slower then hopping over the masterserver

and yes the server would send a timestamp to the masterserver, but it's fakeable

jxsl13 12-Aug-20 07:12 PM

the answer time is also fakable

as you do not get a new token generated on each server-master communication

Learath2 12-Aug-20 08:47 PM

How do you know so many things about a protocol that doesn't exist yet?

ReiTW 12-Aug-20 08:48 PM

@Learath2 yes it is ATH

jxsl13 12-Aug-20 09:30 PM

~~prove me wrong~~ (edited)

~

~ (edited)

~~we had this ping conversation~~ (edited)

~~on a different topic, where I wanted to change the field of view based on player ping~~ (edited)

generating a new token for every new communication also seems bad, would need to have a server per IP limit, as people would be able to fake request a registration forcing the server to generate tons of tokens making is kind of the single point of failure (edited)

Assa 12-Aug-20 09:36 PM

How do you know so many things about a protocol that doesn't exist yet?

@Learath2 if you layout a concept of anything you try to understand the pros and cons in order to improve your concept, this is normal business planning

jxsl13 12-Aug-20 09:37 PM

How do you know so many things about a protocol that doesn't exist yet?

@Learath2 who ._. is you (edited)

Learath2 12-Aug-20 09:59 PM

@Assa well yes, but we didn't even lay out anything about the http master server protocol, besides the 2 PoCs ever made and only one of those are public

So you can't really talk about it's shortcomings

redix 12-Aug-20 10:27 PM

Problem with ping estimation: Player and server in south america, master server in europe. Real ping <80, estimated ping >500 :D

heinrich5991 12-Aug-20 10:38 PM

@redix note that pinging all servers also comes with another downside: leaking player IP addresses to everyone who wnats to listen

redix 12-Aug-20 10:40 PM

Yeah. But it should at least be optimal. Or a per filter option, e.g. only for favorites

Optional*

heinrich5991 12-Aug-20 10:41 PM

a button to ping all servers might be fine

then the client can remember the pings and not do it again

Assa 12-Aug-20 11:59 PM

can you guess server ping by location?

I am pretty sure you can if you have good data

ReiTW 13-Aug-20 03:37 AM

@Assa can be really different

Cringy Lemon 13-Aug-20 04:22 AM

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Pure_luck 13-Aug-20 09:40 AM

people are ranting about the new infection servers being too complex just leaving that here

> @jxsl13 thanks for a feedback. Can you give me contacts of those people? I want to invite them to a discord server where we discuss balance, suggestions and so on. Classic infClass wasn't easy too so I'd liked to hear more specific complains and/or do something to make players life easier.

a gerdoe 13-Aug-20 09:43 AM

0.7 infclass looks easier imo

i learnt about all in a hour gameplay (edited)

Stiopa 13-Aug-20 09:44 AM

it took me a ton of time to figure out the mousewheel was used for classes

I had to be enlightened in chat after a bit. It needs to be mentioned somewhere

(idk if it is yet)

Pure_luck 13-Aug-20 09:47 AM

I will make changes to UI very soon. It's easy to add hints on mouse wheel on MOTD which is currently used as a class selector menu. But I think it's offtopic for this server to discuss this, can we move to «Official infclass» or to my server with this discussion? (edited)

noby 13-Aug-20 09:48 AM

where is ur server

Pure_luck 13-Aug-20 09:48 AM

Ofc we can continue here if others don't mind. I like to promote my server

(edited)

Short url with invite: https://tiny.cc/inf-luck-discord/

Also about the "complexity" of 0.7 infClass: two our top players (in hours a day) are 10 and 9 years girls

(Alisa and Sky) (edited)

And they know everything which they need to play infCroya/infLuck: they choose classes, camp, flee, attack, use savespawns etc. So I'm intrigued about this feedback and definitely want to hear more. (edited)

I've invited Sky to discord yesterday and this was far too complex for her. But infClass wasn't. (edited)

jxsl13 13-Aug-20 10:55 AM

added an announcement to my zCatch servers, maybe someone will join your discord. (edited)

Pure_luck 13-Aug-20 11:00 AM

wow, thanks!

what are your zCatch servers btw?

jxsl13 13-Aug-20 11:13 AM

Simply zCatch

those

Pure_luck 13-Aug-20 11:18 AM

on 0.6 or on 0.7?

jxsl13 13-Aug-20 11:19 AM

0.7

2

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ratuple 13-Aug-20 01:03 PM

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ScReeNy 13-Aug-20 02:04 PM

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jxsl13 13-Aug-20 04:48 PM

onbgy

0.6

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heinrich5991 13-Aug-20 06:04 PM

@!HowToDie discussion of cheats is not permitted

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here you can download my newest teeworlds cheat http://www.5z8.info/oneweirdoldtiptolosebellyfat_r5b7lf_hot-older-goats.mov (edited)

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Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 03:05 PM

A simple question: are there any features upcoming in 0.8 that are aiming at boosting teeworlds popularity?

jxsl13 14-Aug-20 03:05 PM

no

xD

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 03:05 PM

Like giving the game more freedom to mod so modders could use teeworlds almost as a general purpose 2d game engine.

it's 2020 and modders stills make custom entities from laser.

and server still cannot update fully custom graphics for skins from a server

though engine is mature and capable enough to make this possible

imagine tw where modders could add interactable objects like real doors, gizmos, NPCs to the game

and it's not just a lack of server code, current tw client is so restricting that I could not just make red eyes for a skin (edited)

cause it reverts to black in some cases ruining my idea (temporary daemon posession) (edited)

also imagine battlefield mod had real vehicles that would look like an actual thing and also didn't have to fight prediction on client side moving objects with a player or a player to custom trajectories (edited)

are there people who still capable or want to do something like that? I know that's tw is declining, but we can slow this down

even just adding ability to turn off prediction for some objects or characters from server side would be a step forward

or adding linear trajectories to the game instead of parabolic ones

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 03:16 PM

teeworlds is beyond help

not sure at which point you joined into teeworlds

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 03:17 PM

I've been here for 10 years

though casually

any linux distro had tw in a repository

so this was a go-to game to kill some time and gain some skill (edited)

I see newcomers every week even in my very niche mod. That's not "teeworlds is beyond help" (edited)

we still have devs with in depth knowledge of a project and very skillfuls modders community

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 03:23 PM

- "devs" Oy that blocked development for years - certain gamemode that "destroyed" teeworlds / includes some of our ddos boys here (edited)

- certain someone that brought shit to 0.7

ever since the ddos shitshow started on 0.6 the game died really quick

and I see the comeback now on 0.7

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 03:29 PM

thanks for clarifications. Are all those factors still there?

or we can just do something if we'd found right people who wanted to implement and test something new?

is something blocking us now?

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 03:35 PM

Oy is really slow, works occasionally nowdays (edited)

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 03:37 PM

is it still a blocking factor?

is he the only person who can approve PRs?

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 03:40 PM

yea

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 03:40 PM

what about bugfixes on #development ?

who merges them?

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 03:41 PM

Oy

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Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 03:43 PM

so if anyone wanted to do something completely new and fast he would better go to DDNet or fork 0.7, right?

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 03:44 PM

what about a dark mode (edited)

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 03:45 PM

what is it?

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 03:53 PM

what do you mean?

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 04:45 PM

I guess that maybe a joke on that almost pointless feature request devs get too often from some folks

some websites have night mode

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 04:57 PM

"imagine tw where modders could add interactable objects like real doors, gizmos, NPCs to the game"

@Pure_luck asked that mostly 1year ago

still waiting :v

Learath2 14-Aug-20 05:24 PM

Oy is doing much better nowadays, more friendly towards mods too from what I've seen

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 05:26 PM

sorry for such a noob question but why is Oy taking charge? is he an original game author or just a current maintainer

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 05:49 PM

is he Magnus Auvinen from license.txt?

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 05:53 PM

no

redix 14-Aug-20 05:55 PM

Nope. That's matricks, the original author. He had a very concrete vision of the game and he explicitly said that teeworlds does not support mods. He then left the game and handed it over to oy. Why him? Because he has a similar mentality about this "vision". "Keep it simple stupid"

That was many years ago and as learath said, today he's more mod friendly but that still does not mean that there will be big, new features that are not used in vanilla.

On the technical side: the game is designed to do what's needed for vanilla. Many things are hardcoded, very minimal and not really flexible. You want to have a general online 2d network enging? That needs quite some work and restructuring. I doubt that will ever happen.

FoxyF 14-Aug-20 06:02 PM

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redix 14-Aug-20 06:04 PM

And consider one thing: most of that code was written more than 10 years ago. Some features were added, bugs fixed, but is still far away what you expect from an engine today. There is basically no tools for example, no docs ...

Better start from scratch or use an existing engine

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 06:12 PM

when teeworlds in UE5?

redix 14-Aug-20 06:13 PM

Launch title

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 08:03 PM

@redix pretty sure that would attract more people if teeworlds supports all of that

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:04 PM

a general online 2d network enging? That needs quite some work and restructuring. I doubt that will ever happen.

I just need some features. "Almost" a general purpose game engine, but not actually. Like linear predictions, turning off them, movable interactable sprites and so on. (edited)

Dune 14-Aug-20 08:05 PM

@Pure_luck @redix matricks made bluesky after handing head of development to Oy, so I'm pretty sure he was favorable to this sort of ideas. Some 0.7 features were exclusively introduced for mods. The "not supporting mods" meme is about Teeworlds not being responsible for what mods do

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:06 PM

I am still fighting with eyes color on some skins it fallsback to black on some body colors (edited)

modding is fighting in tw

I wish that could be changed somehow

Dune 14-Aug-20 08:07 PM

I agree skin modding got worse, not on purpose though

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 08:08 PM

@Dune thanks for commandmanager and protocol change, good things x)

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:08 PM

there are 200-300 SLOC about validating eyes color on client. That's crazy

Dune 14-Aug-20 08:08 PM

@a gerdoe none of my doings

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:08 PM

and some heavy math and magic numbers in it

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 08:08 PM

about whole community ofc

Dune 14-Aug-20 08:08 PM

@Pure_luck because it's very abuseable

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:08 PM

modding is abusing

Dune 14-Aug-20 08:09 PM

sure, but you don't want people having unfair advantages in CTF because of skin modding, especially that you don't need to install those skins to see them now

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:09 PM

it's eyes only

how can it be abused to an advantage (edited)

redix 14-Aug-20 08:09 PM

same color as skin

looks strange

Dune 14-Aug-20 08:10 PM

^

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:10 PM

I understand that

but still no way to turn it off from server itself

Dune 14-Aug-20 08:10 PM

invisible eyes should never be a thing

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:10 PM

they're not invisible. medium-quadtratic distance is 80.0f

it's really high

Dune 14-Aug-20 08:11 PM

yes, but without that code, they could be

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:11 PM

I understand everything. But I'd wish some 0.7 client existed which would support more tunings from a server (edited)

to turn off prediction, to turn off eyes validations, to update clan tag w/o hacks and so on

all things which stands on the way to make trivial and minor but useful modifications

we have skin updates from a server, this is nice! but we don't have client info updates

so we have to fake quiet leaves

this trick is working, thanks god. But it's so restrictive in general (edited)

many modders do same tricks to make something work -- like send random fake tunings params or fake disconnects

I'd wished some tutorials/repos on that would exist

with documented caveats at the very least (edited)

I've even had idea of some package manager for modders. So they could install mods on vanilla from it

with hacks already done

or to make updates from upstream easier

Dune 14-Aug-20 08:17 PM

But I'd wish some 0.7 client existed which would support more tunings from a server

Yeah, I'm with you there

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:17 PM

Also as I've said, I still struggle to get those fake settings to work and I don't know why they don't

I've talked with every person who implemented that on 0.6 or 0.7 and doing the same

spend 4 days on debugging the client

still don't have an idea why this code is working for them not me

I will learn everything eventually. But still this is a hard way of modding for an opensource game (edited)

Maybe I will start a wiki for modders to write anything I know as I learn (edited)

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 08:28 PM

question; can I make a .cfg file autoexecuted when changing to a certain map

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:29 PM

if you're a modder you can just add code to execute a file after a map change (edited)

and split configuration to two files -- common parameters that could not be changed (like server name, port to listen) and map specific

infCroya even has lua autoloading for a map

though there is no need in infCroya to use lua. Yaml would do just as good

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 08:30 PM

well, that requires extra work, so if there is a way I can do it without more changes I want to exploit it :d

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 08:31 PM

I am not a tw expert, but afaik the config is loaded once (edited)

if you could modularize it that would be cool (edited)

so someone could reuse this

we need a modding recipes library/wiki/repo

I can give a paid notion.so workspace for that to anyone who will add things to it (edited)

jxsl13 14-Aug-20 09:18 PM

make the map change command two commands separated by ;?

Assa 14-Aug-20 09:55 PM

^this add_vote "ctf5" "change_map ctf5; exec my_ctf5_config.cfg"

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:02 PM

"vanilla" is the only 0.7 server only @Assa

everything else is bridged

Assa 14-Aug-20 10:03 PM

no, what about gctf and catch64 for example?

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:03 PM

not in the top

bridged servers are dominating the 0.7 serverbrowser

the vanilla server is temporarily up in the top with players

Assa 14-Aug-20 10:05 PM

true, but it's not 0.6 servers only containing players

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:06 PM

I'm fine if it's 2 or 3 servers but cmon

whole "Network"

Assa 14-Aug-20 10:08 PM

I think 0.7 would be dead if you wouldn't allow the bridge

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:08 PM

take ddnet out of tw

without ddnet, teeworlds could move onto 0.7

Trafalgar Law 14-Aug-20 10:11 PM

Why should you do smth like that?

0.6 and 0.7 bridge is a good thing, more players

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:12 PM

for whom?

vanilla is the only scene that moved to 0.7

everyone else stayed back at 0.6

ddnet just massivly overthrows the browser with servers and players, new players will be mostly play ddnet (edited)

or get stuck at the worst "mod" map in this game called block

Trafalgar Law 14-Aug-20 10:14 PM

Not everyone wants to play vanilla

Where is the problem

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:15 PM

tw is fking dead of mods

just only ddnet nowdays

ictf dead

Trafalgar Law 14-Aug-20 10:15 PM

And btw. vanilla was anyways already dead, before anyone did a bridge srv

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:16 PM

vanilla dead only played by coreplayers

fng only casual plebs that I laught at

not sure about zcatch 1server? (edited)

were is kog, panic, infection ball etc.

all dead

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:18 PM

@ShootXen PMed you invite to infection server

not official one

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:18 PM

on 0.7 start many players played vanilla

for half of month maybe

and... ddnet came

also modders have no reason for porting/making new mod to/on 0.7

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:20 PM

I have a reason. It's a recent one. It's on steam and in any linux repo (edited)

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:21 PM

one reason for making 0.7 mod is new community

no more

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:21 PM

also modders have no reason for porting/making new mod to/on 0.7

DoSes?

0.7 fixed vulnerabilities by reworking the protocol

I'd liked to add a 0.6 compatibility layer but I don't want to end up as @fokkonaut fighting DoSes

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ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:22 PM

rei you dont say anything

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a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:22 PM

okey, second reason, but its good for hostings

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:22 PM

@ShootXen why tho :v

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:22 PM

u know why (edited)

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:23 PM

I'm not the one attacking

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:23 PM

porting may sometimes be hard until gerdoe comes along and saves you your sanity <3

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:23 PM

@Pure_luck those are good ideas, they just need a lot of work

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:23 PM

we just need http masters

would already solve lots of things

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:24 PM

@Pure_luck if we would talk about clear 0.7, without any bridges - yes

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:24 PM

even if it was me @ShootXen why would I send that to my own server

root@pvm1:~# vnstat -l -i eno1 Monitoring eno1... (press CTRL-C to stop) rx: 756.68 Mbit/s 930261 p/s tx: 12.57 Mbit/s 7157 p/s

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:24 PM

@Dune also some plan and coordination, yes

cause right now things added staying on mods or hackclients

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:25 PM

return 0.5 with patches

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:25 PM

of course, but it's also several months long work, and requires quite some skill too

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:25 PM

@ShootXen + http masters is not enough, on server & client smth has to be done

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:25 PM

people that are this skilled rarely have this much time

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:25 PM

Too bad I have near zero expertise in C++

which doesn't prevent me to add shitty code to my infCroya fork (edited)

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:25 PM

is Oy on the discord server?

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:25 PM

IRC only

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:25 PM

@Stiopa no

he's on IRC sometimes

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

real shame

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

it's good actually

because people would start to annoy him (edited)

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

IRC is ok

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

I guess that's true

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

it's not much harder than discord

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

@Pure_luck I don't think it matters too much. Most of Teeworlds is just C :P

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

Oy 0.8 when?

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

@Dune I mean C/C++

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

@Stiopa why would you want a compatibilty break

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:26 PM

I am a rubyist

with some basic knowledge of other languages

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:27 PM

0.7 is already a compatibility break

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:27 PM

I'm just joking around about having faster updates :d

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:27 PM

yeah, for good reasons

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:28 PM

still has been done badly, things could be better I think

but well, people recognize it now

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:28 PM

limited manpower

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:28 PM

too bad no one written tutorial on how to migrate 0.6 mod server to 0.7

and no docs exists

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:28 PM

at least teeworlds is an open source repository so updating side by side is not that difficult

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:28 PM

@Pure_luck there's complete commits for that

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:28 PM

@Pure_luck here's the tutorial: download 0.7 sources and rewrite it

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:28 PM

@Pure_luck ah u mean that, thought about implementing the proto

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:29 PM

just merge an 8 year old code into 0.7 5head

(that's what I tried and I cried)

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:29 PM

I've failed to merge 100 commits from 0.7.5 to 0.7.4 mod server

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:29 PM

0.7 will be released in 2015

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:29 PM

2014

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:29 PM

saw 2015 once

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:29 PM

maybe im wrong

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:29 PM

we all've seen some shit

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:30 PM

maybe if 0.7 came way before, people would not be on 0.6

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:30 PM

0.7 needed more gameplay addition

and more mature in release

Zatline 14-Aug-20 10:30 PM

0.8 will be released on mars exclusively as part of spaceX colony program

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:30 PM

0.7 is full of bridged DDNet servers

Sooo..... bridges are EXIST!

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:31 PM

we had a network break from 7.3 -> 7.4

if I remeber correctly

or was it from 2 to 3? (edited)

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:31 PM

masterban bridges on 0.7 :troll:

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:33 PM

well, gameplay additions... gameplay additions... (edited)

what to add onto the gameplay? new powerups like ninja?

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:33 PM

actually I don't see any big diff on that side so

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:33 PM

@ShootXen I don't remember that

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:33 PM

make ninslash 2.0

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:34 PM

many consider the core gameplay to be pretty good, and I can't disagree

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:34 PM

I mean there was a update with the networkcode on 0.7

@Dune

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:35 PM

7.3 - 7.4

Zatline 14-Aug-20 10:36 PM

ninslash is a bit overklill imo with all the particle effects but there are awesome things like slopes and liquid simulation which would be awesome to have in TW as well

Stiopa 14-Aug-20 10:36 PM

liquids

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:37 PM

also huh 45° walls

that omg

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:37 PM

@ShootXen only backwards compatible changes afaik

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there were some functional slope implementations on 0.6

I was told that didn't turn out well, but wasn't there to try

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:39 PM

ah slope is the word xdd

redix 14-Aug-20 10:40 PM

vector based maps with interactive objects!

ShootXen 14-Aug-20 10:40 PM

will be never a thing in teeworlds

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:40 PM

flexible map structure!

ReiTW 14-Aug-20 10:40 PM

grenade impacting the map

Zatline 14-Aug-20 10:42 PM

https://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/tutorials/make-a-splash-with-dynamic-2d-water-effects--gamedev-236

Make a Splash With Dynamic 2D Water Effects

Sploosh! In this tutorial, I'll show you how you can use simple math, physics, and particle effects to simulate great looking 2D water waves and droplets. Note: Although this tutorial is written...

something like this for water would be awesome

and then have diving physics to the tee

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:43 PM

just allow adding custom sprites and animate them

NES hardware could do that

it was all about managing sprites and generations of games arisen from this very basic feature

we can have custom sprites only engraved into map tiles and cannot programmaticaly create a manageable entity which uses this sprite

would be supercool if not only very limiting skinned tees and built in projectiles were physical objects in game

but any sprite would, nice if animated, but ok if not

any NES game could be recreated perfectly on top of that

only prediction could be disable-able for that custom objects for smooth

or just adding a linear one, like trajectory

currently on mods everything is made from laser beams or powerups which teleports every tick from a server

there is no linear motion in fact and client doesn't make this movement too smooth

sometimes fighting with that

battlefield mod for me was the most glorious attempt to break rules and limitations of teeworlds limited game system

and it sucked cause client struggled with a server

and it looked awful

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:50 PM

that needs unify networkcode afaik

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:50 PM

but it was SO playable

Ravie 14-Aug-20 10:50 PM

teeworlds is not a game engine :p

Dune 14-Aug-20 10:50 PM

remember the lua rewrite back in 0.6?

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:51 PM

no?..

i had lua courses 2y ago and my teacher said that teeworlds written on lua

with love engine

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:52 PM

I've seen lua in infCroya and hated it instantly

no 2d arrays even

and matrixes are not the same thing

much complexity out of nothing

teeworlds is not a game engine :p

teeworlds is a game engine, see all the mods

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:56 PM

not teeworlds maybe...

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:56 PM

just a very limited one

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:56 PM

it has own engine xd

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:57 PM

ok

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:57 PM

like basement of whatever you want to make

Pure_luck 14-Aug-20 10:57 PM

that's just wording

a gerdoe 14-Aug-20 10:57 PM

ok ok

notabomb 15-Aug-20 08:45 AM

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Pure_luck 15-Aug-20 09:20 AM

phew

Stiopa 15-Aug-20 11:12 AM

when I compile & launch a teeworlds_srv.exe, where does it take as their directory? (I want to put autoexec.cfg in there)

Pure_luck 15-Aug-20 11:32 AM

current directory first AFAIK

Stiopa 15-Aug-20 11:35 AM

so at the top of the "project"?

Pure_luck 15-Aug-20 11:37 AM

if server is in bin/server and you're changing dir to bin/ then if you run ./server current dir will be bin/

if you don't change dir to bin/ and start server as bin/server it will search resources and configs in current directory where you are and most things will be broken (edited)

I am not 100% sure you should test

a gerdoe 15-Aug-20 12:54 PM

he is running it on windows

if he didnt make build folder, vss would make out folder with all built things

jxsl13 15-Aug-20 01:37 PM

opens Teeworlds, list full with ddnet servers, closes Teeworlds

Welf 15-Aug-20 01:53 PM

ddnet is good

a gerdoe 15-Aug-20 02:03 PM

on 0.6

Pure_luck 15-Aug-20 03:10 PM

0.7 supremacists

@Learath2 white tile mapwide! (edited)

cyberfighter 15-Aug-20 03:14 PM

welcome to teeworlds 0.8 we have shaders now and draw your own tee program and we also have no support for mods fuck mods yes

Learath2 15-Aug-20 03:16 PM

Imagine spending hundreds of hours trying to keep a game that was abandoned by it's devs alive, only to get picked on by the new guard

Arseniy Zarche 15-Aug-20 03:51 PM

why teeworlds is deleted from google play

:/

jxsl13 15-Aug-20 03:54 PM

0.6 dead?

Arseniy Zarche 15-Aug-20 03:56 PM

I'm not sure

ShootXen 15-Aug-20 03:57 PM

what do you mean I do find servers on 0.6

Arseniy Zarche 15-Aug-20 03:57 PM

joking

ShootXen 15-Aug-20 03:57 PM

we need those filters

noby 15-Aug-20 04:10 PM

where is fng

also its blockworlds not blockwar

ReiTW 15-Aug-20 04:15 PM

@ShootXen BW means blockworlds

u all failed a fcking name

cyberfighter 15-Aug-20 04:18 PM

shitty mods dont deserve correctly spelled names

ReiTW 15-Aug-20 04:29 PM

@cyberfighter shitty mods stay alive compared to others

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fokkonaut 15-Aug-20 04:31 PM

lmao

Pure_luck 15-Aug-20 04:31 PM

we should just ban all mods ofc

Dune 15-Aug-20 04:47 PM

there's already a gametype filter

ShootXen 15-Aug-20 04:58 PM

shitty mod that is responsible for a shiity teeworlds

90% of the ddos in tw comes from block

ReiTW 15-Aug-20 05:04 PM

@ShootXen well

devs are responsible for that kind of vulnerabilities, everything can be fixed

not block

noby 15-Aug-20 05:07 PM

90% of the ddos in tw comes from one person who used to host block*

ReiTW 15-Aug-20 05:08 PM

not evn block related

vali is a bit retard & attacks every mods

painn 15-Aug-20 06:20 PM

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pac 15-Aug-20 06:28 PM

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ReiTW 15-Aug-20 06:28 PM

@painn

Stiopa 15-Aug-20 07:28 PM

nice amount of players

Pure_luck 15-Aug-20 07:39 PM

its spectators I think

benj 15-Aug-20 08:22 PM

j

qe

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! FoXi Tee 15-Aug-20 08:26 PM

NoCap290 15-Aug-20 08:28 PM

Joined the server.

J

a gerdoe 15-Aug-20 08:30 PM

?

! FoXi Tee 15-Aug-20 08:33 PM

@Dune

i have to report something

look at the vote

(the server)

@Dune

@Dune !!!!

@Assa can you help me?

Stiopa 15-Aug-20 08:36 PM

patience

is virtue

redix 15-Aug-20 08:36 PM

that's a bug

-Lowiteahe 15-Aug-20 08:39 PM

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NoCap290 15-Aug-20 08:42 PM

J

Dune 15-Aug-20 08:54 PM

@! FoXi Tee if pinging once doesn't work, don't ping twice

! FoXi Tee 15-Aug-20 08:55 PM

want someone to join #general ?

Pure_luck 15-Aug-20 09:18 PM

that link is cursed

it links to itself

Sonix 15-Aug-20 09:18 PM

nvm

didnt see other screen

urawaza 15-Aug-20 09:55 PM

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NoCap290 15-Aug-20 10:57 PM

J

MarisaG 16-Aug-20 12:45 AM

Hiya @urawaza - welcome

urawaza 16-Aug-20 02:01 AM

hello

Stiopa 16-Aug-20 02:12 AM

Rj

@urawaza

urawaza 16-Aug-20 02:13 AM

rocket jump?

Stiopa 16-Aug-20 02:13 AM

Rage join

urawaza 16-Aug-20 02:14 AM

camoback 16-Aug-20 05:26 AM

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Deleted User 16-Aug-20 12:13 PM

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ciger 16-Aug-20 01:08 PM

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jxsl13 16-Aug-20 05:11 PM

is there some kinda hammerfly bot in the F-client ?

fokkonaut 16-Aug-20 05:24 PM

yes, dummy hammerfly

jxsl13 16-Aug-20 05:35 PM

k

jxsl13 16-Aug-20 06:28 PM

"no attempt to kill again" lol

the heck

ban reason ftw

Assa 16-Aug-20 10:38 PM

what

justin 17-Aug-20 12:44 AM

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Ryan(Juv) 17-Aug-20 01:37 AM

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Sonny 17-Aug-20 02:40 AM

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Ryan(Juv) 17-Aug-20 06:57 AM

does anyone have any tips to get better at hooking people?

Souly 17-Aug-20 08:21 AM

play block/gores

Pure_luck 17-Aug-20 09:45 AM

Be a defender in CTF, turn dyn camera on to get extra time to get ready.

ReiTW 17-Aug-20 01:57 PM

Dyn cam

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Pure_luck 17-Aug-20 02:57 PM

There is 8000 unique players daily on teeworlds. But none are coming in my mod and even CTF has only one populated server.

Could anyone add a chart here https://status.tw/charts/

Charts - status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players

Similar to existing one on versions but to show most popular game types.

I just want to know where are those 8000 players.

Is it 99% DDrace?

a gerdoe 17-Aug-20 02:58 PM

ddos xd

guess 90% is block

Pure_luck 17-Aug-20 02:59 PM

DDoS doesn't prevent 8000 ppl from playing (edited)

so it is not an answer to anything

it's just a convenient seems-to-be-universal answer (edited)

too universal to be useful

Dune 17-Aug-20 03:04 PM

the share of ddrace-like mods only seems to be growing yeah

Learath2 17-Aug-20 03:05 PM

It's sad that we don't get new mods

Pure_luck 17-Aug-20 03:08 PM

I could start to recreate battlefield mod, but I don't think it will end up anything different from infClass (edited)

I mean no players problem

Dune 17-Aug-20 03:14 PM

@Learath2 people don't play them

there were more active mods in 0.7 in the past

Learath2 17-Aug-20 03:15 PM

there were more active mods in 0.6 in the past aswell

it seems people just converge towards a couple mods

Dune 17-Aug-20 03:32 PM

it only seems to happen with ddrace stuff

fokkonaut 17-Aug-20 03:34 PM

does anyone have an idea how to count pps serverside?

When there are too many serverinfo requests I want to not send the playerlist, so the traffic stays low, for 0.6 gie3/fstd attacks

Learath2 17-Aug-20 03:36 PM

@fokkonaut ddnet implements that, you can steal it

fokkonaut 17-Aug-20 03:36 PM

it does not send the playerlist or does it completely stop sending serverinfo?

Learath2 17-Aug-20 03:36 PM

Actually we only consider serverinfo per second, not pps, pps you'd need to count in lower level networking

doesn't send playerlist

fokkonaut 17-Aug-20 03:36 PM

Really? :D

where/how?

does ddnet have any other security fixes? remember, I only support ddnet based clients for the tokens, so i dont have to care about 0.6 Vanilla for example

Learath2 17-Aug-20 03:41 PM

We cache the serverinfo aggressively, we have tokens

We use recvmmsg to decrease the time spent in the kernel under heavy traffic

fokkonaut 17-Aug-20 03:42 PM

i do have tokens too

so i think after i applied the serverlist patch i have a decent base now

do you know when the commit was done @Learath2 ?

Pure_luck 17-Aug-20 03:59 PM

any docs on tokens?

redix 17-Aug-20 04:00 PM

don't think so. as always

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there are several (incompatible) token implementations: ddnet, 0.7 and 0.6.5 also has one as far as i remember

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fokkonaut 17-Aug-20 04:05 PM

@Learath2 should i also dont send clients for 0.7 serverinfo?

or cant this flood happen for 0.7?

ah, lol. i cant even do this for 0.7, 0.7 drops the info if the amount of received clients doenst match the num clients

heinrich5991 17-Aug-20 04:13 PM

@fokkonaut on 0.7, the flood can only come from real IP addresses

you could ratelimit per IP address there

jxsl13 17-Aug-20 05:04 PM

github.com/jxsl13/twapi/browser

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browser tokens, maybe helps

noby 17-Aug-20 05:06 PM

404

heinrich5991 17-Aug-20 05:07 PM

probably /tree/ between twapi and browser

Pure_luck 17-Aug-20 05:11 PM

https://github.com/jxsl13/twapi

jxsl13/twapi

the twapi package is a framework to interact with Teeworlds servers and masterservers. It is slowly being developed to allow working with demos and maps as well as simulating a teeworlds client. Cu...

jxsl13 17-Aug-20 05:25 PM

https://github.com/jxsl13/twapi/tree/master/browser

jxsl13/twapi

the twapi package is a framework to interact with Teeworlds servers and masterservers. It is slowly being developed to allow working with demos and maps as well as simulating a teeworlds client. Cu...

AdventureSimon 👁👄👁 17-Aug-20 05:55 PM

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Dune 17-Aug-20 10:00 PM

@Pure_luck https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/commit/a263185571903ead01f6b351a91ea219ac9d215f

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also https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/986

Added tokens to the network and refactored master server code (plea...

Summary Prevents ip spoofing of (hopefully) any kind: master server attack (see mailinglist) server flood attack session hijacking faking server info Protocol change The new network protocol head...

Pure_luck 17-Aug-20 10:02 PM

Thanks a lot

wow, it even has a description. Nice

ShootXen 17-Aug-20 10:19 PM

I do expect a long text @redix

redix 17-Aug-20 10:22 PM

I'd like to have some opinions on server-side stats. Some options: 1) only initialize the statboard values with info from the server once you enter a game 2) statboard + additional stats after each match. For example there could be a new stats tab in the ingame menu where you can scoll through the last matches. For each match it shows the info from statboard + some additional things like max speed, avg speed and per weapon stats (damage done, damage taken, accuracy, ...) 3) beside the matches thing from 2) the server can also register custom stats like weekly stats, per gametype stats, ... or even leaderboards. that could for example replace the /top5 and /rank calls in race gametypes in my opinion 1) would be a bit boring, 2) might be a good amount of stats, 3) could be a bit overkill but would give mods some cool possibilities :D i'm also open for completely different proposals

nah not extremely long

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TsFreddie 18-Aug-20 08:29 AM

Sonix 18-Aug-20 10:42 AM

@redix would be nice to have a stats tab, I remember gamer client had something like that (?) . Also total stats would be nice, flags captured total kills total deaths etc then it would be nice to add assists, accuracy

So i'd go with 2).. other extensive stuff could be done in a custom client

Bart (Floss Edition) 18-Aug-20 01:39 PM

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deen 18-Aug-20 04:43 PM

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Learath2 18-Aug-20 04:54 PM

Realdeen

Sonix 18-Aug-20 04:58 PM

is this the most players u had on ddnet @deen

Im seeing 980+ players online

deen 18-Aug-20 05:06 PM

Was > 1300 earlier today, but DoS attacks happened

fokkonaut 18-Aug-20 05:10 PM

is that due to the steam release?

all these perma servers + the multimap server haha :D

Sonix 18-Aug-20 05:17 PM

Yes I guess is related to steam

Dune 18-Aug-20 05:40 PM

@redix I think 1 and 2 are already logged as issues somewhere, and definitely what we'd want. Why do you say 1 is boring? Right now the stats are inaccurate because they are client-side only I'm not sure what 3 would really do that a server can't do at the moment

jxsl13 18-Aug-20 06:21 PM

can this be classified as broken protocol?

Dune 18-Aug-20 07:06 PM

huh? no

jxsl13 18-Aug-20 07:09 PM

I mean the client side score stuff where a server communication should have been the proper way to go.

Dune 18-Aug-20 07:40 PM

this is how teecomp worked

redix 18-Aug-20 08:57 PM

@Dune yes there is https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/158 but it's a bit vague about what is really wanted. 1) would be boring because the statboard pretty much reached its capacity limits, so we couldn't add additional stats like weapon accuracy. A new menu for stats after each match could display more information. 3) would be a replacement for all the chat based stats and ranking systems. For example the top5 in race gametypes or the stats that chiller is using on his ctf server. It could provide a clear and flexible UI for all these things. However, it might be hard to fulfill the needs of all the different mods. I just really hate chat based stats

In game statistics · Issue #158 · teeworlds/teeworlds

What about a more detailed scoreboard at the end of each game with ratios, accuracy etc.

Dune 18-Aug-20 09:05 PM

@redix agree with what you said. It'd be nice to get an UI for this sort of stats stuff, but it'll be hard to make something that fulfill enough people's needs. We'll get a lot of angry mail about what we didn't do

redix 18-Aug-20 09:19 PM

true

Tried to design a protocol for it. The number of fields and flags grew and grew... it would probably be easier to use html-like tables

not going to do that though

Dune 18-Aug-20 09:35 PM

designing that stuff needs a lot of foreseeing

it's hard

jxsl13 18-Aug-20 11:08 PM

hm, was just wodnering why there are bots on ddrace

it's just 0.6 bots thankfully

AlexGamer 18-Aug-20 11:29 PM

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Stiopa 19-Aug-20 01:00 AM

is the gametype exclusion PR merged yet?

-N1ght Kn1ght- 19-Aug-20 10:53 AM

Joined the server.

No

Stiopa 19-Aug-20 11:14 AM

Rj

poko 19-Aug-20 11:16 PM

DDraceNetwork as a game is available on Steam now?

Dune 19-Aug-20 11:16 PM

has been for years

not sure who went there first

poko 19-Aug-20 11:17 PM

Well 2 days to be exact

https://store.steampowered.com/app/412220/DDraceNetwork/

DDraceNetwork

Get all your friends together, meet new people from all over the world, and help each other through thousands of maps! Play with your best friend and beat worldwide records!

Dune 19-Aug-20 11:17 PM

I've had it in my library for years

poko 19-Aug-20 11:17 PM

Hmm.. interesting

Dune 19-Aug-20 11:17 PM

@Learath2 probably knows better

poko 19-Aug-20 11:17 PM

Isn't the game illegal or something

I mean it's free after all but isn't it Teeworlds nonetheless?

Learath2 19-Aug-20 11:19 PM

@Dune it's been 2 days, you couldnt have it for years unless you added it manually

Dune 19-Aug-20 11:19 PM

@poko don't see any legal issues with that

@Learath2 wdym by manually?

Learath2 19-Aug-20 11:19 PM

@poko teeworlds has quite a permissive license and even if it didn't I highly doubt matricks or oy would sue us

@Dune like added a third party game just so you can launch it through steam

poko 19-Aug-20 11:21 PM

I don't want none of you to get in trouble, I was just...curious

With that said, I'll try it out, havent played DDRace before

Dune 19-Aug-20 11:21 PM

@Learath2 strange

haven't touched that in years

Learath2 19-Aug-20 11:22 PM

But as said teeworlds is under zlib license which allows all kinds of things

Dune 19-Aug-20 11:22 PM

don't think Oy has more IP than any of us?

Learath2 19-Aug-20 11:23 PM

Not sure who would even own copyrights to tw honestly

Dune 19-Aug-20 11:24 PM

matricks' name is everywhere

has to be him

Learath2 19-Aug-20 11:24 PM

Anyway, there is no taking a license back, so all the code is zlib and it will be zlib forever. Atleast this version of it

@Dune Maybe we did a beta like 5 years ago and added you?

Dune 19-Aug-20 11:27 PM

possible, yeah

Learath2 19-Aug-20 11:28 PM

Spot the ddos

Sonix 20-Aug-20 01:01 AM

heinrich5991 20-Aug-20 02:17 AM

@Dune you're registered to my steam account because you tested teeworlds. it's also my steam account that published ddnet, hence you seeing it before the release happened

the actual release was only two days ago ^^

Dune 20-Aug-20 02:18 AM

@heinrich5991 myth busted!

Learath2 20-Aug-20 03:26 PM

@heinrich5991 I also tested teeworlds, I never saw it

heinrich5991 20-Aug-20 03:54 PM

hmm

Foali_Official 20-Aug-20 04:42 PM

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Ryozuki 20-Aug-20 04:45 PM

test

Foali_Official 20-Aug-20 04:45 PM

hi everyone!, why isn't it possible to TSC3.1? "Teeworlds Server Creator". Is there any other way to create a server ?

*to download or start

ReiTW 20-Aug-20 04:46 PM

@Foali_Official yes it's called TSBYH

a gerdoe 20-Aug-20 05:03 PM

teeworlds server by your hands

Sonix 20-Aug-20 05:11 PM

@Foali_Official I believe that tool is outdated and not working anymore. You could try to run a server manually by following this guide: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_setup

8-Ball 20-Aug-20 05:57 PM

hey

wassup with blmappepe?

Foali_Official 20-Aug-20 06:13 PM

thanks !!

8-Ball 20-Aug-20 06:19 PM

excuse me

what does it mean delta unpack failed?

redix 20-Aug-20 06:26 PM

the server is sending invalid data. on which server does it happen and what client are you using?

levi 20-Aug-20 08:39 PM

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tFlyyStar 20-Aug-20 09:53 PM

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Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 03:55 AM

may i ask someone what does it do

not very detailed (edited)

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 03:56 AM

where is it from? can you link it?

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 03:56 AM

what is security token

sure

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 03:56 AM

cool

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 03:57 AM

bool HasSecurityToken(int ClientID) const { return m_aSlots[ClientID].m_Connection.SecurityToken() != NET_SECURITY_TOKEN_UNSUPPORTED; }

i mean

why we need to know this

why is it important?

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 03:58 AM

Nobody knows what you want, you should either link it to github or tell us where this is from, e.g. what file, what Project (ddnet? Vanilla?)

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 03:58 AM

k

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 03:59 AM

because i know of this, i can tell you without these information: its simply a function that returns true if the slot with the clientid that got passed (its i in this case) has a security token

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:00 AM

ok i can understand this :D wait for explanation ok?

explaining* sorry

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:00 AM

The security token is a thing from ddnet to avoid spoofing, the server and client communicate and send tokens, the server checks if it matches and if yes, the connection is secured, if it doesnt match, you cant connect

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:01 AM

yea boi

thanks

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:01 AM

(iirc you can still bypass the ddnet tokens and spoof anyways)

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:03 AM

I was hoping that maybe there is someone here who works at the interface between the server and the client, and is generally responsible for this, so I can ask him why we need to know if the player has a token.

so you are this man

thanks :)

(iirc you can still bypass the ddnet tokens and spoof anyways)

@fokkonaut luckily I don't need it

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:03 AM

xd

Are you trying to learn coding?

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:04 AM

a bit (edited)

working on rcon cmds on xpanic

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:05 AM

xd

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:06 AM

i know enough to make some not bad features for xpanic but i know i'm still not so good to say "yay i'm developer!"

character.cpp is my house and engine\server\server.cpp was like a cold forest without phone and zippo

:D

sorry for my grammar

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:07 AM

i can imagine

i went through that too

fun fact: my zippo went empty today

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:08 AM

oh

you mean original zippo or just a thing which creates a fire? :D

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:08 AM

Original Zippo

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:08 AM

i dunno how to name zippo in the different way

wow

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:08 AM

lighter

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:08 AM

k

so may i ask you is it legal to use character.cpp function for some player through cgamecontext pointer then m_applayers[i] , getcharacter and the function?

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:11 AM

implement rcon commands using ddracecommands.h

and ddracecommands.cpp

register the ConFunction in gamecontext.h

check how its done for other commands

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:12 AM

saw this but thought i don't rly need this because other cmds are working not bad (didn't used character funcs)

k

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:12 AM

yes you can do that, you can also use GetPlayerChar(pResult->GetInteger(0)) to access it directly

but important:

before accessing the player or the character, check if it exists

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:13 AM

yee

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:13 AM

you know how that works?

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:13 AM

yes :)

player != character

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:13 AM

?

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:13 AM

and if player are spec, he have no character so we can't use character funcs

are you talking about this or i just missed? (edited)

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:14 AM

Before you access the character or player pointer, you check if the memory exists, check out other ddracecommands

if (!pPlayer) return;

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:14 AM

+

but why

memory does not exists but player exists

character

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:25 AM

If you enter a client id that is not online, e.g. 60, then the server cant access it

It will crash

also, if you already know that the character exists, then you dont need to check for the player

Player always exists as long as a client is online, and character exists as long as the player is actually playing and having a tee

There is one weird exception: Thats for /spec. /spec doesnt delete your character, it just doesnt process it anymore. Memory is still saved so you get all your character variables back to how it was (e.g. Jetpack, freeze, jumps, weapons) after you resume

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:30 AM

k

thanks

but

i'm sure there is getplayerchar(e.g. 0)

i'm zero id and i'm exist

my tee exists

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:31 AM

0 is your client id

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:31 AM

but server thinks it is not

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:31 AM

?

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:31 AM

i mean

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:32 AM

you need to specify your arguments

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:32 AM

?

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:32 AM

show me how you register your command

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:32 AM

k

Console()->Register("setzomb", "i[id]", CFGFLAG_SERVER, ConInfect, this, "Infect someone by id");

@fokkonaut

ah

sry

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:36 AM

?

What was your problem?

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:36 AM

nono

i mean sry for ping

i thought you got away because i'm too slow so i pinged you (edited)

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:37 AM

Ok, show me the function to it

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:37 AM

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:37 AM

I did not understand you problem yet

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:37 AM

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:38 AM

okay look

pUserData is not of type CGameContext

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:38 AM

pUser?

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:38 AM

the user is of type CServer

Register the command in ddracecommands .h and .cpp

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:38 AM

tried

that why is it pUserData

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:39 AM

do it

No, dont copy paste

Do it in there

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:39 AM

wdym

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:39 AM

What file is this?

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:39 AM

server.cpp and .h

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:39 AM

where do you have to go?

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:40 AM

?

to character.cpp

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:41 AM

no

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:41 AM

no?

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:41 AM

ddracecommands.h

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:41 AM

but why?

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:41 AM

i just told you

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:41 AM

ok

argument is good :D

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:41 AM

i told you why

because look where you register the cmd, you pass a this

this this is of type CServer, because this is where it gets called

So you cant cast the pUserData to CGameContext

that will acces wrong memory

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:42 AM

but if i will use pUser

instead of pUserData

is it similar?

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:43 AM

That doesnt matter

Its just the name

you can also name it pNotUser xD

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:43 AM

thought so

k

truly i tried it in ddracecommands before but stucked into lnk2019

truly = tbh here

fokkonaut 21-Aug-20 04:47 AM

good night✌️

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 04:49 AM

gn

are you going to sleep?

Cellegen | 🇭🇺 21-Aug-20 10:01 AM

Joined the server.

Pure_luck 21-Aug-20 10:03 AM

@Arseniy Zarche are you recreating infClass?

Arseniy Zarche 21-Aug-20 10:39 AM

xpanic isn't infclass, different modes

Pure_luck 21-Aug-20 10:55 AM

someone recently wanted to recreate it to 0.7

are you doing the same thing? (edited)

zxcMadaraPRO︻デ═一 - pos1/2 21-Aug-20 12:19 PM

Joined the server.

Pure_luck 21-Aug-20 12:56 PM

ah no, @a gerdoe supports xpanic on 0.6

8-Ball 21-Aug-20 01:32 PM

Hey there

I get some issues

it cannot do delta unpack or something

if you answer please ping

Learath2 21-Aug-20 01:49 PM

@8-Ball which server?

8-Ball 21-Aug-20 01:54 PM

@Learath2 general DDRace

a gerdoe 21-Aug-20 01:55 PM

0.7 client or 0.6?

8-Ball 21-Aug-20 02:51 PM

0.7

the latest

Learath2 21-Aug-20 03:06 PM

@8-Ball the latest as from github? There was a fix yesterday that should fix an issue

8-Ball 21-Aug-20 03:29 PM

yeah

Shall I redevelop?

@Learath2

recompile?

Learath2 21-Aug-20 03:35 PM

Yep, recompiling should fix it

lmk if it doesn't

cracknotgood 21-Aug-20 11:15 PM

Hey guys, quick question

A friend of mine asks for what's the best tw Version to download for Mac

Zatline 21-Aug-20 11:18 PM

0.8

cracknotgood 21-Aug-20 11:18 PM

Ok thx

Why he have a virus now

heinrich5991 21-Aug-20 11:20 PM

you can download teeworlds 0.7 from teeworlds.com

0.8 is not out yet

cracknotgood 22-Aug-20 09:46 AM

Thx man

popapi 22-Aug-20 12:22 PM

Joined the server.

Sonix 22-Aug-20 01:52 PM

@redix @heinrich5991 is it possible to remove envelopes from a map via tml?

heinrich5991 22-Aug-20 02:14 PM

tml is quite outdated I think

@Sonix what map are you talking about? it would probably be quickest do modify the TW editor to drop the envelopes on save, if you want to get ird of them

Sonix 22-Aug-20 02:16 PM

well I wanted to fix this one https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2659

[Old Editor] Crash on viewing envelope (ctf8) · Issue #2659 · teewo...

This is an out of bounds access caused by a broken curve type value in a map. In this case on ctf8, the 6th and 7th envelope have such a broken value (2752512 and 527 respectively), valid values ar...

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but i managed to apply the fix from ddnet, and fixed the map that way

couldnt do it other way cause it kept crashing

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 02:18 PM

teeworlds development relying on ddnet :p

Sonix 22-Aug-20 02:20 PM

@Patiga can you PR that fix, even if its the old editor we should avoid that crash imo

Patiga 22-Aug-20 02:20 PM

will do

Sonix 22-Aug-20 02:21 PM

thank you

heinrich5991 22-Aug-20 02:21 PM

I wonder if the editorv2 will be the next 0.7

not happening for years, but still stalling the working, currently in use, code

Sonix 22-Aug-20 02:22 PM

let's hope not

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 02:25 PM

let's hope nothing becomes the next 0.7

0.8 in 2021

Sonix 22-Aug-20 02:30 PM

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 02:41 PM

#IBelieve

Dune 22-Aug-20 03:12 PM

@heinrich5991 how is that stalling anything? it's a very separate code bit

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 03:23 PM

how can 0.8 maps be developed when the editor v2 is not yet finished? :D (assuming 0.8 will have new maps, maybe some new LMS?)

Sonix 22-Aug-20 03:25 PM

instead of adding new lms and still be unplayed its better to work on lms gametype and make it more appealing

i doubt editor v2 is related to 0,8, when its done its done

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 03:29 PM

True. LMS/LTS are underplayed

(the game in general is underplayed)

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:31 PM

hello now that ddnet is avalable in steam is there a posibility to remove hacks fom the game (edited)

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 03:32 PM

very difficult to do

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:32 PM

@Stiopa i am playing ddnet and there is a person attacking and killing me with aimbot and he says i am a noob

and he says curse words

al the time he spams at me

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 03:33 PM

what mod?

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:36 PM

i dont know but is there a diference between coding for games on linux and windows

Sonix 22-Aug-20 03:36 PM

better dont advertise their names here

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:37 PM

@Sonix i know but i cant even find the dowload though so it dosent matter because its an rusian client

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 03:37 PM

it is the server host's responsibility to get rid of such individuals, you should try contacting the admins

of the server

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:39 PM

@Stiopa i play copy love box alot and there is this dude named a and alot more and i want to get rid of hacks entirly from the game this is whant new teeworlds players get when they play harasment and spamming and killing and calling out noob

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 03:39 PM

oof

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:39 PM

yes

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 03:39 PM

leave block, play normal mods

block = insults place

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:39 PM

i am not rasist but rusians are the most toxic

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 03:40 PM

yeah, thanks

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:40 PM

xd

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 03:40 PM

most of them kids

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:40 PM

yes who are trash then they use hacks

spinbot is very anoying

skin blinker is cool but still a hack (edited)

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 03:44 PM

does any client have support for different icons for certain friends/clans? (for example I'd like a banner to show up next to a server with a clan member instead of a heart)

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 03:45 PM

wow, nice idea

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:45 PM

yes

hmm i am starting blender soon so i can make icons

well i am on ubuntu 20.04 so i dont know if that is diferent

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 03:47 PM

maybe one could make an issue for that hmmm

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 03:47 PM

yes

heinrich5991 22-Aug-20 04:09 PM

@Dune it's stalling because changes to the old editor are being rejected

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 04:11 PM

xd thats sad

Dune 22-Aug-20 04:12 PM

I think fixes are still accepted

anyway iirc the editor barely had any changes since 0.7 release

@!HowToDie don't advertise cheats

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 04:14 PM

@Dune i am not advertising cheats

Dune 22-Aug-20 04:15 PM

naming is advertising, don't

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 04:16 PM

just don't mention them

instead

you can praise my ideas

heinrich5991 22-Aug-20 04:20 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2652 https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2469 @Dune two PRs getting rejected solely for

You should direct such a feature to the editor2. No more work will be done on the old editor.

Directory support for automap rules (closed #2434) by ChillerDragon...

Add directory support so one ruleset can be represented in multiple json files. So rules can be more easily combined without the need of touching json. automap/ ├── desert_main.json ├── grass_dooda...

Add Ctrl+Q shortcut to create quad at mouse position, add label for...

Pipette apply button: Fixes some of #1931.

Dune 22-Aug-20 04:21 PM

I think fixes are still accepted

yeah, not new features

heinrich5991 22-Aug-20 04:21 PM

okay, but then we're stalling the old editor while the new editor isn't there yet

Dune 22-Aug-20 04:21 PM

yeah, not sure I agree with that decision

I don't mind much since the editor had near-zero development and I can't think of other PRs than those two over the past year

I think the last change was me adding a quit button

heinrich5991 22-Aug-20 04:22 PM

both authors had several further PRs that were accepted before that

they likely would have continued if not being told not to

Dune 22-Aug-20 04:22 PM

okay, I see

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 04:29 PM

@Dune make an editor like gimp

yes hello i need to ask who is the admin of copy love box (edited)

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 04:32 PM

https://discord.gg/CJQvdJ

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 04:34 PM

@a gerdoe is his name deen

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 04:35 PM

ask for block admin, idk

noby 22-Aug-20 05:09 PM

[8:39 AM] !HowToDie: i am not rasist but

3

!HowToDie 22-Aug-20 06:26 PM

@noby ?

Galli 22-Aug-20 07:13 PM

Joined the server.

would'nt it be funny if they added the default dance to teeworlds

Leafy 22-Aug-20 07:21 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 07:42 PM

No

Galli 22-Aug-20 07:47 PM

ok

Sonix 22-Aug-20 08:03 PM

lol

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 08:38 PM

@! FoXi Tee lmao, what did you do

Stiopa 22-Aug-20 08:57 PM

One less master server?

heinrich5991 22-Aug-20 09:24 PM

yes

! FoXi Tee 22-Aug-20 09:41 PM

@! FoXi Tee lmao, what did you do

@a gerdoe ???

a gerdoe 22-Aug-20 10:19 PM

someone faked you

💌Macho de Shy boi💕 23-Aug-20 09:19 AM

Joined the server.

💌Macho de Shy boi💕 23-Aug-20 09:26 AM

wow quiet server

heinrich5991 23-Aug-20 10:52 AM

hi!

Sonix 23-Aug-20 10:54 AM

Hello

Learath2 23-Aug-20 10:55 AM

This server has more of an irc vibe. Slow responses, people are active when they need to be active

Sonix 23-Aug-20 11:07 AM

will something break if i push changes to maps repo now

heinrich5991 23-Aug-20 11:10 AM

no

the maps submodule in the teeworlds will need to be updated to get your new version though

Sonix 23-Aug-20 11:14 AM

okay, cause I remember something happened when i updated ctf5 saying wrong map or something to ppl

oil_poor 23-Aug-20 03:02 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 23-Aug-20 04:11 PM

rage join

tricky 23-Aug-20 04:25 PM

Joined the server.

is murpi here?

jxsl13 23-Aug-20 04:50 PM

no such username edit: oof (edited)

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TsFreddie 23-Aug-20 05:22 PM

The Man with No Eyes 24-Aug-20 02:50 AM

Joined the server.

is there a way to hide certent gamemodes on thes server list

im tired of having to scroll through tons of DDRace to get to race or what i want

Stiopa 24-Aug-20 02:58 AM

there's a PR with such feature

but not really

Dune 24-Aug-20 03:11 AM

You can make whitelists, but no blacklists

The Man with No Eyes 24-Aug-20 03:13 AM

maybee that can be in the next update

Stiopa 24-Aug-20 03:16 AM

hopefully. I want DDNet off my filter!

The Man with No Eyes 24-Aug-20 03:16 AM

yeah i agree

i would play it but there are so many people that dont know how to play it

carlosos 24-Aug-20 12:53 PM

qshar?

Pure_luck 24-Aug-20 01:48 PM

Is that ok?

Maintenance status.tw is temporarily unavailable due to a failure of the main database server.

(edited)

(つ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)つ 24-Aug-20 04:32 PM

Joined the server.

hello

Galli 24-Aug-20 05:30 PM

hello

The Man with No Eyes 24-Aug-20 05:38 PM

Yo

Kazekage 24-Aug-20 06:09 PM

Joined the server.

(つ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)つ 24-Aug-20 06:38 PM

how are you guys doing

The Man with No Eyes 24-Aug-20 06:47 PM

GOO

good

caps lol

(つ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)つ 24-Aug-20 06:51 PM

lol

same

Да 24-Aug-20 07:18 PM

Joined the server.

cyberfighter 24-Aug-20 09:05 PM

louis 25-Aug-20 07:27 AM

im 90% sure there used to be an exclude feature on a client that allowed u to exclude some words

Dune 25-Aug-20 01:32 PM

Not in vanilla Teeworlds, probably a mod

fokkonaut 25-Aug-20 02:17 PM

ddnet

The Man with No Eyes 25-Aug-20 05:42 PM

If it is a mod please send a link ._.

Stiopa 25-Aug-20 08:13 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16639 advertisements in my native language (edited)

Porownania kredytowe (Page 1) — Development — Teeworlds Forum

Porownania kredytowe (Page 1) — Development — Teeworlds Forum — Everything Teeworlds!

in the appropriate "Development" section

it's about loans

Benny 25-Aug-20 08:19 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 25-Aug-20 08:37 PM

Happens daily, hit the report button

zandyZ 26-Aug-20 03:37 AM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 26-Aug-20 01:02 PM

ban

jxsl13 26-Aug-20 01:04 PM

bande

Assa 26-Aug-20 01:44 PM

blocked

ShootXen 26-Aug-20 02:43 PM

@Dune #rules add spam

Dune 26-Aug-20 03:01 PM

No need for that, he knew he was getting b&

Neoilluitom 26-Aug-20 03:35 PM

Joined the server.

Neoilluitom 26-Aug-20 05:07 PM

Hey is anyone here a modder

I need help with restoreing a server that shutdown becuse the owner got bored of the game and said "fuck you" to everyone who played it and deleted the server.

@me if your a modder, i will try to reward someone who helps in the best way i can.

jxsl13 26-Aug-20 05:11 PM

what server, what mod @Neoilluitom ?

Neoilluitom 26-Aug-20 05:37 PM

IFcity 2

We have the .exe file, we could reverse engineer it but, it would be easyer just recreateing it, at leasts thats what a former moderator/associate of the owner

The owner "stitch" wants nothing to do with the server, and he is the one with the source code, which is waht we need. (edited)

they also have the account data base, but we dont really need it. also it would be a cyber security risk for him to give it to us, even though we are not going to use the passcodes for malitous intent.

@jxsl13

Trafalgar Law 26-Aug-20 05:42 PM

@Neoilluitom so he shutdowned the srv? Did you try to ask him if you could get it? (edited)

Neoilluitom 26-Aug-20 05:43 PM

He will not

"stitch" created the mod, at least created all the extra parts of the mod.\

"stitch" got bored of the game then stitch deleted the server

Leaving us with our hours apon hours waster

wasted

Trafalgar Law 26-Aug-20 05:47 PM

So there is no way to get it bcs if he is thr one with the src

Just if you develop the same

jxsl13 26-Aug-20 05:50 PM

ehm, you got the exe file

Trafalgar Law 26-Aug-20 05:50 PM

Just ask him if he dont want to host it anymore

jxsl13 26-Aug-20 05:51 PM

rent a windows server, run the gameserver?

Trafalgar Law 26-Aug-20 05:51 PM

Win srv

Learath2 26-Aug-20 06:13 PM

Oh did stitch finally leave teeworlds? Thank god

Stiopa 26-Aug-20 06:27 PM

what did stitch do?

wasn't he affiliated with {626} tag?

Learath2 26-Aug-20 06:28 PM

He was one of the single most annoying people I've ever met and I'm fairly certain he was ddosing for a while

Stiopa 26-Aug-20 06:29 PM

hm

he was responsible for some mods, especially years ago, right?

Learath2 26-Aug-20 06:29 PM

y

jxsl13 26-Aug-20 06:34 PM

asking him to open source the mod would help a lot of modders for reference reasons, I'd guess .., as there was a lot of work put in.

mouzedrift 26-Aug-20 06:35 PM

making it open source was originally the idea when he quits teeworlds but he didn't do it

he gave the exe to someone else who asked for the mod (without the source code and database) but he can't get the server to show up in the list xD

but making it open source is probably not gonna happen unless he is gonna remove the parts of the mod he didn't make and even that is pretty unlikely since he doesn't want to do anything that is teeworlds related

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Neoilluitom 26-Aug-20 06:51 PM

Yea i was kinda misinformed on all the steps and factors involved, i plan on some day reviveing if2 in some way, but not ANY TIME SOON AT ALL, now that i know the facotrd

Not entirely as it was all just basic info

but it was easly mis interprited

noby 26-Aug-20 07:08 PM

- (edited)

Learath2 26-Aug-20 07:21 PM

Yeah, overall asshat

mouzedrift 26-Aug-20 07:29 PM

he was spreading tools but i dont think he did the work himself

ReiTW 26-Aug-20 07:59 PM

@Neoilluitom then

play ifcity

.-.

Neoilluitom 26-Aug-20 08:02 PM

Yea, i have bad ping on that server, but then i saw there is a dupe of it closer to me so i play that then.

ReiTW 26-Aug-20 08:02 PM

you don't need a good ping to play iF|City in general (edited)

generally you just sit on a chair

And if people needs the 0.7 version then, they should just ask it by pinging admins on the discord

that's all

The Man with No Eyes 26-Aug-20 11:06 PM

do u guys know where i can get the mod that allows me to filter the gamemodes

i found one on github but it says i cant download it

Dune 26-Aug-20 11:18 PM

We don't know which mod you are talking about

jxsl13 26-Aug-20 11:35 PM

client modification with negative filtering is what je is talking about

he

The Man with No Eyes 26-Aug-20 11:36 PM

like how do i download this https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2622

Add gametype exclusion filter by Robyt3 · Pull Request #2622 · teew...

Prepending a - in the game type filter will exclude the game type (closes #2621). Servers are filtered (i.e. excluded) if any exclusion filter matches, or if any inclusion filter exists but none ma...

jxsl13 26-Aug-20 11:42 PM

you go to robyt3's repository, download the code and compile the teeworlds client.

Dune 27-Aug-20 12:17 AM

just get the artifacts

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2622/checks

Add gametype exclusion filter by Robyt3 · Pull Request #2622 · teew...

Prepending a - in the game type filter will exclude the game type (closes #2621). Servers are filtered (i.e. excluded) if any exclusion filter matches, or if any inclusion filter exists but none ma...

alina 27-Aug-20 12:19 AM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 27-Aug-20 12:24 AM

"The following artifacts have expired and are no longer able to be downloaded."

Learath2 27-Aug-20 12:27 AM

Gosh darn it

The Man with No Eyes 27-Aug-20 12:35 AM

yeah thats what it says

Dune 27-Aug-20 12:45 AM

then you have to build it or get someone to build it for you

DatKud 27-Aug-20 01:10 AM

Joined the server.

Comeback 27-Aug-20 02:44 AM

Joined the server.

Neoilluitom 27-Aug-20 02:45 AM

Help

In ifcityAmerica i need to get into the discord

dose anyone have the invite code

ReiTW 27-Aug-20 02:59 AM

@Neoilluitom https://discord.gg/NUfhgTe

official ifcity

Pure_luck 27-Aug-20 12:52 PM

Has anyone that annoying problem when teeworlds sometimes changes resolution to lower one and then saves it? (edited)

it sometimes even stays lower when I return to desktop (edited)

then I change resolution on desktop to full then start tw again to change settings there but then it changes resolution again because it saved wrong one (edited)

seems like fighting

and when I win it's never for good because the next time it could just choose lower resolution when it wants (edited)

is there any way to tell teeworlds never use any other resolution automatically than selected?

its 0.7.5 teeworlds @ linux, fullscreen mode. My monitor is 1920x1080 but lower resolutions teeworlds selects ocassinaly are 1440 and 1600 ones. Is there any way to prohibit it to change resolution without changing the code? I don't get why it chooses lower ones and why the resolution stays lower when I exit TW with Ctrl+Shift+Q. (edited)

I could change the code though.... it's annoying. (edited)

Miaww 27-Aug-20 02:04 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 27-Aug-20 02:34 PM

Teeworlds only changes resoution when it fails to start with the set one

I've never heard of other people having this issue

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Dune 27-Aug-20 05:05 PM

@The Man with No Eyes downloads are up on the PR

Pure_luck 27-Aug-20 06:55 PM

any custom sprites upcoming? I know I've asked, but if this has changed (edited)

Dune 27-Aug-20 09:16 PM

you mean mapres?

the problem is, if you add mapres without a compatibility-breaking version, and some maps use it as an external mapres, then the map will be broken for people using earlier versions

mapres changes generally only occur in major releases

except for fixes of course

tmmie 28-Aug-20 03:42 PM

Joined the server.

Alezardguy 28-Aug-20 05:32 PM

Joined the server.

ilhangamer31 28-Aug-20 06:49 PM

Joined the server.

Sonix 28-Aug-20 07:37 PM

Rj

!HowToDie 28-Aug-20 10:40 PM

is this you @Dune

hello

@Dune

ITS SICK BTW

Stiopa 28-Aug-20 10:42 PM

That's the dune but you need not ping him twice

!HowToDie 28-Aug-20 10:42 PM

ok

sorry

its cool

Stiopa 28-Aug-20 10:43 PM

it is indeed hella cool

!HowToDie 28-Aug-20 10:43 PM

i am sad that i still can not add custom skins into normal teeworlds

because they are json files instead of jpg

BTW i would like the old ddnet inter face imagine if you could witch between the old one and the new one

a gerdoe 28-Aug-20 10:47 PM

you can still use 0.6 client

!HowToDie 28-Aug-20 10:48 PM

realy

a gerdoe 28-Aug-20 10:50 PM

да.

!HowToDie 28-Aug-20 10:54 PM

xd

Dune 28-Aug-20 11:33 PM

@!HowToDie thanks

you can still add skins in 0.7 without doing any json stuff, but you have to add skin parts instead

look in the data/skins folder

The Man with No Eyes 29-Aug-20 12:53 AM

What I do to customize the body is just make a body that's invisible and just make the body the marking

And with the hands and feet honestly it's how u expect

I like making skins that are fully customized

I don't really like skin Creator's

When I get a new drawing tablet I'll probably make some custom body's on teeskins (edited)

I'm thinking for hands and feet I can make like a cartoon glove and cartoon shoe (edited)

Dune 29-Aug-20 12:57 AM

I like making skins that are fully customized

you have to divide parts in different files, not too much different otherwise

The Man with No Eyes 29-Aug-20 12:58 AM

Yeah should've worded that differently

jxsl13 29-Aug-20 01:01 AM

"HowToDie?" -> ping Dune twice.

that's how you die

Arseniy Zarche 29-Aug-20 01:17 AM

help me

i can't find msvc++ 2010 explress (edited)

found

sry

ReiTW 29-Aug-20 11:25 AM

ms = microsoft v = visual c++

!HowToDie 29-Aug-20 01:43 PM

can you make skins for teeworlds in gnu or in other software (edited)

xd dead chat

ShootXen 29-Aug-20 01:46 PM

why shouldn't you?

!HowToDie 29-Aug-20 01:48 PM

wait can you

great

thanks

Dune 29-Aug-20 01:51 PM

they're .png, you can make them with anything

heinrich5991 29-Aug-20 01:51 PM

check out data/skins

a gerdoe 29-Aug-20 02:05 PM

https://teeskins.de/

Teeworlds Skins, Mapres, Gameskins, Emoticons, Particles, Cursors, ...

Download & Share: Teeworlds Skins 0.6 & 0.7, Assets, Tools ▷ +2000 Teeworlds Graphics ✓ Biggest Teeworlds Skins Collection ✓ Join Now ✓

Sonix 29-Aug-20 02:27 PM

you can use this as a guide to create your own skins, just create your stuff on a layer above this image

jxsl13 29-Aug-20 02:27 PM

ooof

we need a forum topic for that

a gerdoe 29-Aug-20 06:13 PM

oh god, where was that thing year ago

on github?

TsFreddie 29-Aug-20 06:18 PM

when did youtube started to show avatars in embedded videos

Dune 29-Aug-20 10:36 PM

years ago

Eratyck 29-Aug-20 11:30 PM

Joined the server.

The Man with No Eyes 30-Aug-20 02:22 AM

do u guys know how to turn a mp3 into a WV file

i want to replace some of the audio files in game

actually nvm

Dragon_Woo 30-Aug-20 07:06 AM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 30-Aug-20 09:18 AM

online converters

ShootXen 30-Aug-20 03:49 PM

what is wrong with the internet today?

Arjun Agnihotri 30-Aug-20 04:30 PM

Joined the server.

any girls here?

Iman 30-Aug-20 04:30 PM

cloudflare is down i think @ShootXen ?

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Arseniy Zarche 31-Aug-20 01:20 PM

what is the hardest fly in the teeworlds?

do u guys know how to turn a mp3 into a WV file

@The Man with No Eyes aimp player supports converter

i used it when made soundpack for teeworlds (edited)

heinrich5991 31-Aug-20 01:21 PM

what do you mean by "fly" @Arseniy Zarche ?

Arseniy Zarche 31-Aug-20 01:22 PM

hammerfly, speedfly, rocketfly @heinrich5991 (edited)

i think shotgunfly but i'm not sure (edited)

Arseniy Zarche 31-Aug-20 01:33 PM

does someone know?

Stiopa 31-Aug-20 01:34 PM

what is speedfly?

Arseniy Zarche 31-Aug-20 01:35 PM

ah

nvm

hammerfly or rocketfly

or another flies

what is the hardest flies in teeworlds?

heinrich5991 31-Aug-20 01:40 PM

hammerfly is pretty much mastered, I think

maybe hookfly is hardest?

Arseniy Zarche 31-Aug-20 02:01 PM

yep maybe

changed tickspeed

funny :D

Arseniy Zarche 31-Aug-20 02:59 PM

@heinrich5991 how to name fast hammerfly? when hooking tee jumps before hit

speedfly, isn't so?

kloegj 31-Aug-20 05:01 PM

Joined the server.

Learath2 31-Aug-20 05:03 PM

y are u big spammer?

kloegj 31-Aug-20 05:03 PM

ReiTW 31-Aug-20 05:13 PM

big ban

a gerdoe 31-Aug-20 07:33 PM

lmao

jxsl13 31-Aug-20 07:41 PM

"opfaklopfa"

The awoken bun 01-Sep-20 01:22 AM

Joined the server.

The awoken bun 01-Sep-20 01:43 AM

i like tee worlds its fun

Iman 01-Sep-20 01:44 AM

indeed

Assa 01-Sep-20 05:31 AM

we all do, that's why we are here ❤️

mind 01-Sep-20 10:20 AM

Hey, can the fixed main_grass mentioned in issue #1911 be found anywhere?

jxsl13 01-Sep-20 11:01 AM

can you link the issue D:?

Stiopa 01-Sep-20 11:02 AM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1911

tileset bugs in 0.7 · Issue #1911 · teeworlds/teeworlds

I just looked into the mapres in 0.7 and found some bugs, some are minor, some not. I made a gallery on imgur: https://imgur.com/a/dQRWfrd

seems to be the one

jxsl13 01-Sep-20 11:04 AM

thanks.

seemingly Zatline has been working on it a little bit, but there does not seem to be anything released. (edited)

Stiopa 01-Sep-20 11:05 AM

I suppose zatline needs to be tagged

jxsl13 01-Sep-20 11:05 AM

I prefer not to

xD

Stiopa 01-Sep-20 11:11 AM

zatline bites?

jxsl13 01-Sep-20 11:12 AM

I doubt that. But one never knows.

Assa 01-Sep-20 11:13 AM

at least the jungle_midground seems to be fixed :p

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Agent p 01-Sep-20 12:20 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 01-Sep-20 12:42 PM

Perry?

Stiopa 01-Sep-20 12:44 PM

Dune 01-Sep-20 12:48 PM

Zatline won't fix it, so if someone else wants to work on it...

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jxsl13 01-Sep-20 12:48 PM

gofundme @ Landil?

Dune 01-Sep-20 12:50 PM

No, he's busy

Stiopa 01-Sep-20 01:02 PM

:/

Sonix 01-Sep-20 02:32 PM

I believe both desert and grass will be fixed in 0.8 along with some reworks, I did try to fix it @mind, let me know if you want to check it out

not perfect tho

Sonix 01-Sep-20 02:40 PM

In case you guys wanna test it out and compare, here it is: https://i.imgur.com/E7Kkm6Q.png

Zatline 01-Sep-20 02:44 PM

what's on? what am I supposingly not fixing? (edited)

jxsl13 01-Sep-20 02:45 PM

D: everything

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1911

@Stiopa

tileset bugs in 0.7 · Issue #1911 · teeworlds/teeworlds

I just looked into the mapres in 0.7 and found some bugs, some are minor, some not. I made a gallery on imgur: https://imgur.com/a/dQRWfrd

oops

sry Stiopa

Zatline 01-Sep-20 02:46 PM

oh ya just saw it now

well ya cut off shadows is a rendering bug in Inkscape that happens sometimes I had it fixed for the restructured grass_main just checked that but forgot to to it for the 0.7 one I guess .. well ya things will change for 0.8 anyway but good to have a fix for 0.7 thanks @Sonix

mind 01-Sep-20 03:03 PM

@Sonix little bug all over the image, but almost not visible at default zoom

Zatline 01-Sep-20 03:09 PM

https://gyazo.com/5c7f660422878c880905ec6222d59692

https://gyazo.com/09d3e905d0c1625e0a3c9adf8cc7131e

yea that's another rendering issue by Inkscape

haven't found a fix for that yet

that issue is apparent on all tilesets the new ones included :/

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/compare/master...TsFreddie:0.7-textrender-fontfallbacks

jxsl13 01-Sep-20 03:34 PM

send svg

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 03:39 PM

https://mapbox.github.io/tiny-sdf/

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

I tried to implement font fallback and support regional variants.

Now fonts are loaded as opentype collection by defaults, and fonts setup is now using font family names instead of just file names. (see datasrc/fonts/index.json)

There are still works to do regarding textures and glyph finding optimization. I'll try to make a proper PR later.

Still, CJK fonts are indeed huge (19m), but i can't find any smaller alternative that can support all 4 variants of kanji.

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 03:56 PM

Also regarding larger textsize. I really wish we can use shader... to render sdf fonts. (edited)

Ravie 01-Sep-20 04:08 PM

@Zatline those shouldn't be visible on 100% zoom or on the export

Zatline 01-Sep-20 04:14 PM

true at 100% they are not visible and it's not like it jumps out in the bitmap so this ain't a big deal

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 04:15 PM

thank you graphic wizards

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 04:33 PM

Source Han actually doesn't look out of place when surrounded by Deja Vu

Sonix 01-Sep-20 04:39 PM

looks good

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 04:49 PM

redix 01-Sep-20 05:02 PM

@TsFreddie are CJK fonts working properly with sdf/msdf text rendering or are there artifacts?

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:03 PM

they may have somewhat squiggly edges if only using sdf.

a larger texture can make them less noticeable.

but i think msdf should work as good as latin characters (edited)

I haven't done any implementation myself. but there are sdf demos using cjk characters

redix 01-Sep-20 05:11 PM

Okay. I have some really experimental msdf text rendering code... I should maybe continue on this

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:11 PM

on teeworlds?

redix 01-Sep-20 05:12 PM

yes

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:12 PM

cool. i think ddnet has shaders already.

i presume it's not possible without shaders?

redix 01-Sep-20 05:12 PM

I stopped with that and rather improved the performance of the old renderer

never merged that though...

yeah that requires shaders

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:13 PM

did you improved the old renderer? I removed the code iterating through the entire fonts.

and I think a way of texture to texture copy should reduce the stutter when increasing the font texture size.

redix 01-Sep-20 05:14 PM

yeah I added gpu side caching of the text

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:14 PM

does that mean i can stop working on this lol

redix 01-Sep-20 05:14 PM

yes but it would require a new opengl version

Dune 01-Sep-20 05:14 PM

I believe both desert and grass will be fixed in 0.8 along with some reworks, I did try to fix it @mind, let me know if you want to check it out

@Sonix Why do you need a compatibility break?

redix 01-Sep-20 05:15 PM

nah i mostly did low level stuff to lower the cpu side cost of rendering

still only supports one font file

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:15 PM

oh

also i do want to ask is using STL generally discouraged when contributing to master.

redix 01-Sep-20 05:16 PM

yes it is

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:16 PM

oof

I kinda want to use a BST and a heap to help finding the glyphs in the texture

redix 01-Sep-20 05:17 PM

there have been many discussions on this =\

even using binary search for the lookup gives a huge performance boost

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:18 PM

but the glyph look up both id and touchtime.

so might need an additional array for just touchtime.

redix 01-Sep-20 05:19 PM

touchtime only when it runs out of capacity i think

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:19 PM

yes but still

redix 01-Sep-20 05:19 PM

that should not happen too often

at least with latin letters it does not

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:20 PM

but once it is at capacity i'd imagine it'll happen all the time.

and it is not hard for a malicious server to spit out server messages that loops through the entire glyph table lol (edited)

I'll see what i can do that is more KISS.

I do really want proper CJK supports in vanilla, although i don't think they'll like the large font size.

redix 01-Sep-20 05:22 PM

never really thought about that... with latin letters you will never reach the 4096 capacity limit =\

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:22 PM

well you can increase that to 65536 or more since CJK fonts only has the maximum amount that a font can hold. but that's stupid

redix 01-Sep-20 05:22 PM

malicious server stuff is another topic... it's already very easy to crash the client with broken map files =\

the textures can't hold all characters anyway

at least not on old gpus

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:23 PM

yea.

but to avoid checking glyph size. my textures are currently just 128x128 for each character (for 64pt. (edited)

waste more vram on latins, but is somewhat tightly packed on CJK

all fonts store in the same textures

redix 01-Sep-20 05:27 PM

yeah storing as much as possible in one texture is good. I'd even move the outlines and glyphs to one texture

the game does a lot of opengl state changes =\

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:27 PM

well if we have shader we don't even need to store outlines

redix 01-Sep-20 05:28 PM

true

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:28 PM

but there are older gpus that doesn't run gl3 i guess

redix 01-Sep-20 05:28 PM

gl2.0 should do it

rather 2.1

right now the game runs on 1.x but i think it would be okay to require 2.x

i think at the moment sdl uses a gl2 context anyway

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:29 PM

i never worked with gl.

redix 01-Sep-20 05:30 PM

not sure about buggy drivers though =\

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:30 PM

=/

redix 01-Sep-20 05:30 PM

having two renderers would be the best but it would be so much code to maintain...

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:31 PM

and the text need two implementation as well

redix 01-Sep-20 05:31 PM

sdf/msdf also needs some on disk glyph cache + async sdf generation

otherwise it's too slow

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:31 PM

didn't know that

redix 01-Sep-20 05:32 PM

at least the msdf lib i tried

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:32 PM

sdf might not be that difficult to implement a light version without libs, at least by the look of tinysdf (edited)

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:41 PM

is it possible to download a texture back to ram?

like download the smaller texture, create a larger one, upload the smaller one onto the larger one.

redix 01-Sep-20 05:47 PM

yeah but i'm not sure which opengl version is required

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 05:52 PM

is this it?

discord broke..

https://www.khronos.org/opengl/wiki/GLAPI/glGetTexImage

GlGetTexImage

redix 01-Sep-20 06:02 PM

That might work, but downloading to the cpu and then uploading to the gpu is kinda slow

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 06:02 PM

horay, the variant switching is working now.

redix 01-Sep-20 06:03 PM

With newer OpenGL one could use framebuffers and gl4 even has a function to perform the copying on the gpu =\

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 06:03 PM

=/

but in gl1, the best option might be keeping a copy of the entire texture

but that would take 10~40m depends on the capacity

The awoken bun 01-Sep-20 07:26 PM

do skins from the teeworlds skindatabase work in ddrace?

heinrich5991 01-Sep-20 07:28 PM

which skin db are you talking about?

ddnet skins are the ones with a whole tee in a image

teeworlds skins are the ones with parts in different image files

Kallemy 01-Sep-20 08:00 PM

Joined the server.

MarisaG 01-Sep-20 08:33 PM

Hiya, I still have some free servers available if anyone wants one.. Just PM me..

Dune 01-Sep-20 10:17 PM

Any db I know of is 0.6 only

Midorineko 01-Sep-20 10:31 PM

Joined the server.

a gerdoe 01-Sep-20 10:36 PM

teeskins.de

MarisaG 01-Sep-20 11:11 PM

Hiya @Midorineko - welcome

Midorineko 01-Sep-20 11:11 PM

hi

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 11:36 PM

hi

Cringy Lemon 01-Sep-20 11:44 PM

here is a little project im doing... hope it goes gud https://discord.gg/sf68hp

3

jxsl13 01-Sep-20 11:48 PM

the game is called Teeworlds :'/

TsFreddie 01-Sep-20 11:50 PM

;-\

if it's a single server project then it might be justified (lol

Cringy Lemon 01-Sep-20 11:52 PM

oop

lmao

jxsl13 01-Sep-20 11:59 PM

what is the project about?

Cringy Lemon 02-Sep-20 12:35 AM

I just host a tournament with a bracket and stuff clan v clan

Stiopa 02-Sep-20 12:40 AM

I support the notion but I feel it will be hard

Cringy Lemon 02-Sep-20 03:55 AM

No totally even

BastTee 02-Sep-20 05:53 AM

Joined the server.

ContinueR 02-Sep-20 10:07 AM

No totally even

@Cringy Lemon hm

Cringy Lemon 02-Sep-20 01:34 PM

I'll try my best!!

ContinueR 02-Sep-20 01:50 PM

Hm

Cringy Lemon 02-Sep-20 02:04 PM

Hm

TsFreddie 02-Sep-20 07:55 PM

MaCRoYale 02-Sep-20 10:04 PM

can i just ask a question to anyone who sees this? what is your favourite map (could be gores or ddrace or solo or whatever)

Stiopa 02-Sep-20 10:04 PM

ctf2

MaCRoYale 02-Sep-20 10:05 PM

hmm

Iman 02-Sep-20 10:08 PM

i like a lot the very small dm map w/ snow theme, dm3 or dm8 i don't remember

Stiopa 02-Sep-20 10:09 PM

there are two

Iman 02-Sep-20 10:11 PM

the smaller one

Stiopa 02-Sep-20 10:11 PM

both are smol :D

the ones with spikes or w/o?

Iman 02-Sep-20 10:12 PM

w/o

Stiopa 02-Sep-20 10:12 PM

then dm3

Iman 02-Sep-20 10:14 PM

yes !

a gerdoe 02-Sep-20 11:00 PM

yeah, i like ctf2 too, great map

Syc 03-Sep-20 01:27 AM

Joined the server.

MaCRoYale 03-Sep-20 06:47 PM

hmm

am i in the wrong place?

is this like proper teeworlds server? like no ddrace or gores?

i do ddraces on teeworlds not ddnet

sry im being really stupid now

but i looked the other day at proper teeworlds liek ctf and stuff hardly anyone played it, there was like 8 players on 2 diff servers

heinrich5991 03-Sep-20 06:54 PM

this is the normal teeworlds server

no ddrace or gores

TsFreddie 03-Sep-20 08:06 PM

MaCRoYale 03-Sep-20 08:55 PM

oh

can i have an invite to others

heinrich5991 03-Sep-20 08:56 PM

https://discord.gg/teeworlds

jxsl13 03-Sep-20 09:14 PM

there is a teeworldd forum topic with quite a few discord server invites

andreeww 03-Sep-20 09:32 PM

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Salatiel 04-Sep-20 01:35 AM

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ANGELYT 04-Sep-20 01:45 AM

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pepega 04-Sep-20 05:18 AM

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Bright Fighter 04-Sep-20 08:48 AM

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MaCRoYale 04-Sep-20 11:10 AM

Thanks, @jxsl13

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Xenon 04-Sep-20 07:02 PM

pls help meee

i have a problem

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738479445723316247/751484531630145583/unknown.png

that is not normal

i play on ddnet

Learath2 04-Sep-20 07:04 PM

@Xenon which version?

Xenon 04-Sep-20 07:04 PM

14.6

Learath2 04-Sep-20 07:05 PM

That's ddnet, not teeworlds

Try 14.6.1

Xenon 04-Sep-20 07:05 PM

how

how can i download 14.6.1

Learath2 04-Sep-20 07:06 PM

Seems deen didn't put it out yet, probably waiting for the builds

Which OS are you on?

TsFreddie 04-Sep-20 07:21 PM

You should join ddnet's discord. They got way more people who can help you.

GeliosQuark 04-Sep-20 09:21 PM

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jorgewh16 05-Sep-20 12:27 AM

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Rey96 05-Sep-20 05:37 AM

Joined the server.

quien habla español para darle :V

Dune 05-Sep-20 09:01 AM

@Rey96 rule 2

supercatYT 05-Sep-20 11:01 AM

Joined the server.

ok77 05-Sep-20 12:09 PM

:cursed:

:kido:

! FoXi Tee 05-Sep-20 12:35 PM

@Im 'corneum please tell me how it shows

Im 'corneum 05-Sep-20 12:35 PM

black screen

but i have shit internet and can never see discord media properly anyway

! FoXi Tee 05-Sep-20 12:36 PM

can @everyone else enter?

@Savander do a good thing and enter the general voice channel and tell me how my stream works? its the first time i'm using it

TsFreddie 05-Sep-20 04:15 PM

@Dune how do i get a two way

oh, just like that.. thx

Stiopa 05-Sep-20 04:27 PM

oh, I'd like to request access as well @Dune

(to #bridge, that is)

supercatYT 05-Sep-20 05:21 PM

Joined the server.

Licky.org 06-Sep-20 03:00 AM

Joined the server.

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 06-Sep-20 03:53 AM

somebody ban @Licky.org

it's a bot

jxsl13 06-Sep-20 08:37 AM

send screenshot

Stiopa 06-Sep-20 10:20 AM

Here's a thing: when I launch the game on steam and it loads, I need to click once before I can begin moving my cursor

Am I the only one having this issue?

Doesn't even happen 100% of the times

TsFreddie 06-Sep-20 10:23 AM

tried 10 times. didn't encounter the same issue.

might be some background process of yours grabbed your mouse before teeworlds launched.

Just to be sure, what os?

Stiopa 06-Sep-20 10:25 AM

windows 10

TsFreddie 06-Sep-20 10:26 AM

mine's windows 10 as well.

i don't know

supercatYT 06-Sep-20 11:40 AM

hello

Sonix 06-Sep-20 11:41 AM

hello

Stiopa 06-Sep-20 11:42 AM

hello

TsFreddie 06-Sep-20 11:48 AM

hello

supercatYT 06-Sep-20 11:54 AM

hello world

NONONONOONONON

play teeworlds

Iman 06-Sep-20 01:08 PM

hey guys i got a very weird feeling smthng like a mouse sens change. however, i didnt updated my client or changed anything

Dune 06-Sep-20 01:39 PM

@!ʎø1øʞıƝg proof?

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 06-Sep-20 01:50 PM

He keeps sending auto friend request and sending link

heinrich5991 06-Sep-20 02:00 PM

@!ʎø1øʞıƝg can you send a screenshot?

to dune or me

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 06-Sep-20 02:01 PM

Yes look in dm @heinrich5991

heinrich5991 06-Sep-20 02:04 PM

banned, thanks for the report

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2

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supercatYT 06-Sep-20 02:34 PM

go map love box

go?

(つ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)つ 06-Sep-20 04:35 PM

anyone wanna play ddrace rn

Shepard 06-Sep-20 09:49 PM

Joined the server.

!ʎø1øʞıƝg 07-Sep-20 03:36 PM

@heinrich5991 Can u please check DM

BBaLint 07-Sep-20 06:22 PM

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OmegaChetto 07-Sep-20 07:11 PM

Joined the server.

hola!? algien habla español? Spanish?

Iman 07-Sep-20 07:12 PM

inglès

english only

OmegaChetto 07-Sep-20 07:18 PM

ok :,v

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 07-Sep-20 10:53 PM

help please i want to create a vote that spread bullets of all weapons

how do i do that

jxsl13 07-Sep-20 11:34 PM

custom weapon

or custom weapon behavior with global bariables?

variables

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 07-Sep-20 11:54 PM

or custom weapon behavior with global bariables?

@jxsl13 that

jxsl13 08-Sep-20 12:46 AM

change the game mode to a non default one dm+ whatever (edited)

ctf+

etc

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/master/src/game/server/entities/projectile.cpp

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

never done anything with weapons, but I guess you need to add something into the snap part of the weapon

somewhere in this file

add your game mode in here: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/tree/master/src/game/server/gamemodes

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

add your global variable in here: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/master/src/game/variables.h

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/51ef8cae11e05d49d91e4dd0960de9db0438f7da/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L1553

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

and add the part where you add yo rmodification that it can be chosen as gamecontroller and created as such when you actually set your gametype to ctf+ or whatever you want to call it.

this part, I'm currently unable to find, as github's search sucks.

https://sites.google.com/view/tteeworlds/home

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Assa 08-Sep-20 07:12 AM

@ChillerDragon there is a zombie bot in your Server called z7, it's so badly written <.<

Stiopa 08-Sep-20 07:53 AM

Yeah chiller. So awful

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 01:54 PM

I think that was intentional.

There are CTF with bots which is a pain to play against. They win not by tactics but by zero reaction, 100% aim and inhuman ability to do 999 things in one millisecond. (edited)

And it's not even hard to kill them but to get rid of their hook which is usually not a problem with human players. (edited)

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 02:14 PM

@jxsl13 I've started a wiki for modders. I will add there info which I see on channels to help modders. http://tiny.cc/teeworlds-modding

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 please read main page too about choosing the right codebase. It's important ^

I've started modding on 0.7 to find that it is actually better to use 0.6 or ddnet to get more players. That mistake costs me ~3 weeks of porting code back. (edited)

I wasn't aware of current teeworlds universe condition and of a version split. This is a big deal.

heinrich5991 08-Sep-20 02:21 PM

@Pure_luck you say it's a wiki? can I directly edit it?

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 02:22 PM

it's on my personal Notion account. I can make it publicly editable or just add permissions to some people. (edited)

I know it now represents an opinionated look on things so I don't want to start edit wars

but we can try (edited)

heinrich5991 08-Sep-20 02:23 PM

I'd be more afraid of spammers (edited)

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 02:23 PM

Would absolutely love if ddnet/teeworlds core devs and modders will contribute to it

heinrich5991 08-Sep-20 02:23 PM

ehm

I just wanted to fix a few spelling mistakes

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 02:23 PM

I can add you. Do you use notion?

it's a great and simple collaboration thing. You even can see somebody editing it in real time

or even reading it

it's very powerful

I've given you a full access to it

heinrich5991 08-Sep-20 02:26 PM

heinrich5991@gmx.de

but I'll eat something first

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 02:27 PM

I've added to another email

By the way you could try authenticating by Apple, Google or SAML

I think even github supports SAML but I am not sure

Bon appetit!

heinrich5991 08-Sep-20 02:49 PM

proofread

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 02:50 PM

I've restructured it a bit

jxsl13 08-Sep-20 03:16 PM

I would prefer a github repository with markdown readme files

:D

that would help with participation. this might initiate a proper documentation for the game itself. (edited)

at some point that repo could be integrated into the teeworlds organization, in the best case maybe.

TsFreddie 08-Sep-20 04:10 PM

Dune 08-Sep-20 04:12 PM

Isn't ddnet bridge as vulnerable as 0.6.5?

Learath2 08-Sep-20 04:26 PM

What is 0.6.5 vulnerable to?

heinrich5991 08-Sep-20 04:27 PM

master servers and servers are vulnerable to spoofed INFO and LIST requests

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 08-Sep-20 05:27 PM

@Pure_luck ok thx

Learath2 08-Sep-20 05:57 PM

So that only allows people to reflect off of ddnet servers with serverinfo and we limit that by not sending the full serverinfo if we get too many requests

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 06:01 PM

Wasn't ddnet ticket system made to mitigate master server spoofing on 0.6 proto? (edited)

@jxsl13 I don't want to maintain a github repository. Also it's much easy for me to use online UI (edited)

@rayv proposed https://readthedocs.org/ today as an alternative. Though I haven't used it

Home | Read the Docs

Read the Docs simplifies technical documentation by automating building, versioning, and hosting for you. Build up-to-date documentation for the web, print, and offline use on every version control push automatically.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 08-Sep-20 08:31 PM

i don't know really programming so i think it will be hard to create spreading weapons. Also i want to create a cmd that tp yourself in your cursor. Anyone can help me ?

Learath2 08-Sep-20 08:41 PM

spreading weapons?

ShootXen 08-Sep-20 08:47 PM

help please i want to create a vote that spread bullets of all weapons

Yesterday at 22:53

he means probably the bulletspread (edited)

imagine spreading weapons in teeworlds

(edited)

"oh..fuck my weapon just got splitted" (edited)

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 09:10 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 how it should spread? Do you mean it should split like firework? (edited)

It's not too hard to make a custom projectile which will explode with smaller particles on hit or on time travelled.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 08-Sep-20 09:30 PM

it fire multiple bullets @Pure_luck

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 09:42 PM

Like a shotgun?

Why don't just use the code of shotgun?

a gerdoe 08-Sep-20 09:56 PM

^

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 10:28 PM

imagine spreading weapons in teeworlds

there was a mod which used actual weapon pickups as bots playing against players I think those were meant to be replaced in some custom client, but it looked like a living nightmare when played in vanilla. (edited)

Stiopa 08-Sep-20 10:29 PM

Monster? @Pure_luck

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 10:29 PM

yes

Stiopa 08-Sep-20 10:29 PM

it is still hosted on 0.6

and I am pretty sure that's how it was meant to be

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 10:30 PM

omfg, I hope it's not. I hate when inanimate things act like a living one (edited)

it gives me creeps

Stiopa 08-Sep-20 10:30 PM

might be an easy but I don't care that much in the long run

Pure_luck 08-Sep-20 10:31 PM

anyway, I will not add this mod to my personal hall of fame

which is https://www.notion.so/influck/Known-mods-cd87a980ebc44fde8b7f987008e5be00

Stiopa 08-Sep-20 10:31 PM

to each their own

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 08-Sep-20 10:56 PM

@Pure_luck and how do i add points to the score

jxsl13 08-Sep-20 11:12 PM

the mod was called monster

it was a funny mod

with the flying weapons that attack you

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 08-Sep-20 11:21 PM

yes, and i want to recreate it with more cool stuff

but i need help

Hector Fachín 09-Sep-20 04:51 AM

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Toaster 09-Sep-20 11:26 AM

Joined the server.

explodes kitchen

Pure_luck 09-Sep-20 12:30 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏

pChr->m_Score += 5

where m_pPlayer is a pointer to a CPlayer instance (edited)

search for an existing code to see how it works. For example you can search for a flag take event on a CTF mode (edited)

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 09-Sep-20 01:43 PM

ok thx

fokkonaut 09-Sep-20 01:45 PM

pChr should never be the name for a CPlayer xd

its used for CCharacter

So it would be pPlayer in your case

Pure_luck 09-Sep-20 02:41 PM

you're right, thanks

fixed

added this hint here (for caching) https://www.notion.so/influck/how-to-make-X-b2750b52a2c14adfa453fbbbec471da5 (edited)

I hope this list of solutions will grow big in time

Azlxy 09-Sep-20 08:02 PM

Joined the server.

Hi

jxsl13 09-Sep-20 08:05 PM

hello

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 09-Sep-20 11:27 PM

so i modified a little the code, and nothing works

cpp int case WEAPON_SHOTGUN: { int ShotSpread = m_pPlayer->m_Upgrades.m_Spread * 4 + 2; if(m_pPlayer->m_Upgrades.m_PowerfulWeapons) ShotSpread = 15; CMsgPacker Msg(NETMSGTYPE_SV_EXTRAPROJECTILE); Msg.AddInt(ShotSpread*4+2); for(int i = -ShotSpread; i <= ShotSpread; ++i) { float Spreading[] = {-0.185f, -0.070f, 0, 0.070f, 0.185f}; if(m_pPlayer->m_Upgrades.m_Spread) Spreading[0] = i * 0.1f; float a = GetAngle(Direction); if(m_pPlayer->m_Upgrades.m_Spread) a += Spreading[0]; else a += Spreading[i+2]; float v = 1-(absolute(i)/(float)ShotSpread); float Speed = mix((float)GameServer()->Tuning()->m_ShotgunSpeeddiff, 1.0f, v); CProjectile *pProj = new CProjectile(GameWorld(), WEAPON_SHOTGUN, m_pPlayer->GetCID(), ProjStartPos, vec2(cosf(a), sinf(a))*Speed, (int)(Server()->TickSpeed()*GameServer()->Tuning()->m_ShotgunLifetime), 1, 0, 0, -1, WEAPON_SHOTGUN); // pack the Projectile and send it to the client Directly CNetObj_Projectile p; pProj->FillInfo(&p); for(unsigned i = 0; i < sizeof(CNetObj_Projectile)/sizeof(int); i++) Msg.AddInt(((int *)&p)[i]); } Server()->SendMsg(&Msg, 0,m_pPlayer->GetCID()); GameServer()->CreateSound(m_Pos, SOUND_SHOTGUN_FIRE); } break;

(edited)

it not shoot more bullets

anyone have ideas ?

Stiopa 09-Sep-20 11:34 PM

please use ``` for code pasting at least

int howitlooks = 1; bool example(int a) { bool prettycoolhuh = true; return prettycoolhuh; }

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 09-Sep-20 11:38 PM

how i use colors ?

Stiopa 09-Sep-20 11:44 PM

```cpp code

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 09-Sep-20 11:45 PM

not work

Stiopa 09-Sep-20 11:46 PM

int test;

(edited)

works well for me. not sure what you are doing wrong

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 09-Sep-20 11:46 PM

wait

i do this

Stiopa 09-Sep-20 11:48 PM

did you put a space after cpp? that might have caused it

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 09-Sep-20 11:49 PM

i did and deleted it

tested everything

SO

how do i fix that

Learath2 09-Sep-20 11:50 PM

int i = 0;

Try a simpler one first maybe?

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 09-Sep-20 11:51 PM

already tested

and idk what number to set for the shotgun

Pure_luck 10-Sep-20 08:04 AM

btw, how have you managed to make your nick not be able to autocomplete while typing it? @Shaikhun? (edited)

It's so annoying to mention you by a mouse click, I don't do that usually and every time I have to find how it's done in discord.

Do you really need this italic?

Anyway, I don't know how the original code looked like and how much have you changed. Maybe you're compiling it wrong. Try to delete whole block and see if shotgun will stop firing at all.

If you're new to programming it's easy to miss that your code is not compiled correctly so you could just run old binary.

Pure_luck 10-Sep-20 08:58 AM

And I highly recommend you to read this first: https://www.notion.so/influck/Choosing-the-right-teeworlds-server-version-read-it-FIRST-116e42c219c34171a8b680b3c2f9be89

it could save you in the future from: * spending 0.5 to 2 months of porting your mod to a more popular version * seeing nobody playing your mod because you've choosen the wrong version (edited)

Pure_luck 10-Sep-20 09:10 AM

Teeworlds is a really small universe (700-1600 players are playing on 300 servers) and so many mods died just because their authors made a wrong choice and almost nobody could play their mods. (edited)

TsFreddie 10-Sep-20 10:53 AM

mods just die in general

unless you have an active community around it

ppl get tired of stuff pretty quickly i would say

Dune 10-Sep-20 11:48 AM

yeah, don't think it's too related to the game version

ZOMB had a nice player base

like @TsFreddie said though, you need a community

TsFreddie 10-Sep-20 11:49 AM

in china we keep mods alive just by forcing the community to play them lol

Dune 10-Sep-20 11:49 AM

lol

TsFreddie 10-Sep-20 11:49 AM

that's why they still plays solofng till this day

Dune 10-Sep-20 11:50 AM

mods struggle from the concurrency with ddrace

early releases, when there is no ddrace, people play other mods a lot more

TsFreddie 10-Sep-20 11:50 AM

well not like I really forced them to play, it was one of the only servers in china and they never switched back to openfng

but still

ddrace is pretty great ngl but the servers does looks overwhelming in the browser.

~~why is english so hard~~ (edited)

Dune 10-Sep-20 11:52 AM

yeah mod activity took a big hit when there was a boom of 0.7 ddrace servers and now it's worse with the bridge

but hey it's not like they're competing unfairly

TsFreddie 10-Sep-20 11:54 AM

yeah they kinda earned it

Dune 10-Sep-20 11:54 AM

though I think it's a shame it's killing the mod diversity

TsFreddie 10-Sep-20 11:54 AM

I want to get back to modding

but I really want CJK in vanilla first

with ime support and everything.

but it's gonna take awhile by the look of it

btw how often does translations in transifex get pulled to the teeworlds-translation repo

I might update some strings before 0.7.6

Learath2 10-Sep-20 12:16 PM

We could look into spinning down empty ddnet servers to clean up the serverlist a bit

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TsFreddie 10-Sep-20 12:28 PM

I was thinking a entrance server for each region. Like minecraft does with multiserver setup

but that might be too confusing

not for ddnet specifically, just a idea i had before

i don't think ddnet is nessesarily hurting mods tbh. Modding ppl come and go all the time, we just happen to have a low point rn (maybe) (edited)

Dune 10-Sep-20 12:57 PM

TsFreddie: they always do before a release

TsFreddie 10-Sep-20 12:59 PM

let's just hope it gets better

amir1376irani 10-Sep-20 01:35 PM

Joined the server.

anyone playing DDNET-PERSIAN?

TsFreddie 10-Sep-20 01:50 PM

there's a ddnet discord.

noby 10-Sep-20 03:10 PM

https://discord.gg/H9cDr7u @amir1376irani

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m!ki 11-Sep-20 02:01 PM

:watermeron: I was thinking a entrance server for each region. Like minecraft does with multiserver setup

@TsFreddie yeah, i was thinking about that too. One server that supports multiple maps, unlimited number. There could be private sessions with friends, or join global map with all players. Or one proxy server that connects all small servers. But their ips will be hidden.

TsFreddie 11-Sep-20 02:01 PM

m!ki 11-Sep-20 02:01 PM

Something like bungeecord in minecraft :D

TsFreddie 11-Sep-20 02:02 PM

ye.

heinrich5991 11-Sep-20 02:31 PM

@Pure_luck your notion.so account is spamming heinrich5991@gmail.com with invitations. can you fix that somehow?

Pure_luck 11-Sep-20 02:50 PM

@heinrich5991 how many emails have you received to this moment?

I've removed that email and left only .gmx one

Sorry for that. Wasn't aware notion is capable of spamming.

heinrich5991 11-Sep-20 02:55 PM

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Jupstar ✪ 11-Sep-20 03:54 PM

@Dune can't vanilla add another default sorting in browser, that will rotate mods more Like show a ddrace server with most players, show other mod with players, and so on if that isnt wanted the user can still change the sorting

Dune 11-Sep-20 03:56 PM

I'm not sure how you'd make a clear UI and what the algorithm should actually do

Jupstar ✪ 11-Sep-20 03:57 PM

well i dunno about the UI, just add something like "mod friendly search" or smth, and the algorithm shows more mods on top, so mod diversity is given

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Dune 11-Sep-20 04:10 PM

Next version will have exclude filters so you can filter out the big names

Jupstar ✪ 11-Sep-20 04:12 PM

yes, i was just refering to your rant few days ago, about ddrace, if you want new playyers in mods

heinrich5991 11-Sep-20 04:12 PM

mod diversity sounds like an awesome idea

Jupstar ✪ 11-Sep-20 04:12 PM

find solution xd

heinrich5991 11-Sep-20 04:12 PM

although it might prompt people to change the gametype slightly to circumvent this

so probably only works for a week

Jupstar ✪ 11-Sep-20 04:13 PM

yeah my thought was like from the opposite site, the ppl that stay with teeworlds will probably know most mods and still dont play them often

(edited)

but okay, we never know if there would have been ppl stayed if they would have seen other mods first

Learath2 11-Sep-20 04:16 PM

The mod type that has most success is the ones focusing around blocking

BBM, Tournament, DDWar were all very successful back in the day

Jupstar ✪ 11-Sep-20 04:17 PM

i started with zcatch laser and didnt even know about race mods for like 3 years xD

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-Sep-20 07:00 PM

@Pure_luck i create this server to play with my friends and i think the values are wrong but i don't know which values so yes i just started to learn programming (edited)

NPKompleet 11-Sep-20 07:03 PM

Joined the server.

antiandrogen 11-Sep-20 09:40 PM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-Sep-20 11:32 PM

someone knows how to open .demo files without client ?

TsFreddie 11-Sep-20 11:35 PM

i don't think you can? unless you are looking for the recorded events in binary.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-Sep-20 11:37 PM

because i want to create a trailer and i want to transform .demo to .mp4 (edited)

TsFreddie 11-Sep-20 11:37 PM

ddnet has a version with video encoder built in

or you can just use OBS and record it

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-Sep-20 11:38 PM

oh yes

thanks

TsFreddie 11-Sep-20 11:39 PM

demo files might not even be compatible across different versions and mods. i don't think there are any universal demo player yet.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 11-Sep-20 11:43 PM

ok

Lucas Luz 12-Sep-20 01:32 AM

Joined the server.

Hey guys, I'm having trouble running the game. The screen blinks and won't open, I've tried compatibility mode and it doesn't work. My system is W10 64 bits, Intel T4500, 6gb of ram.

heinrich5991 12-Sep-20 01:39 AM

do you run the game via steam or the website?

Lucas Luz 12-Sep-20 01:39 AM

the two hahah

I tried for two

Lucas Luz 12-Sep-20 01:52 AM

Orangus 12-Sep-20 02:40 AM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 12-Sep-20 10:35 AM

Orangus?

nvm, he appears to have left. lol

Dune 12-Sep-20 12:13 PM

@Lucas Luz that message is normal

what is not normal is that it stops there. No crash?

TsFreddie 12-Sep-20 01:17 PM

funny image

VekiPro 12-Sep-20 01:30 PM

Joined the server.

There is no custom emoji

TTeeworlds

http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload1484.mediafire.com%2Fuca1bd1cvr6g%2F68uw5m6kbe80a79%2FDiscord%2BEmojis.zip&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGf9NKexeGZEJhNWojK0E0Wm3KaBQ

Image Pack .zip (.rar .tar.gz disanbled)

some files learge

Stiopa 12-Sep-20 01:40 PM

huh, pretty nice

VekiPro 12-Sep-20 01:40 PM

Admin Add Pls Emoji

http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload1484.mediafire.com%2Fuca1bd1cvr6g%2F68uw5m6kbe80a79%2FDiscord%2BEmojis.zip&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGf9NKexeGZEJhNWojK0E0Wm3KaBQ

url

Lucas Luz 12-Sep-20 07:34 PM

what is not normal is that it stops there. No crash?

@Dune I used the steam tool, file integrity, and nothing is wrong. Have you seen any similar problems?

Dune 12-Sep-20 07:56 PM

No, or at least there is a crash or some console message

apenas lyco avv 13-Sep-20 12:18 AM

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</> 13-Sep-20 03:20 AM

Joined the server.

Skayland 13-Sep-20 05:59 AM

well i've seen a couple people with problems on the steam version

i just tell them to switch to the teeworlds.com version

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

teeeeeeee 13-Sep-20 10:15 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 13-Sep-20 10:51 AM

That's rarely the issue, given how they're pretty much the same

VekiPro 13-Sep-20 02:01 PM

NewGIF!

Sonix 13-Sep-20 03:00 PM

Nice! good job

Souly 13-Sep-20 03:39 PM

having animated flags in vanilla would be great

Tonixe 13-Sep-20 03:44 PM

Hey, can you please make the scrollbar in the demo section less sensitive. I have auto record on, I have around 10 demos per day or more. I scroll once and it literally skips a month of demos. I even counted it and it skipped around 322 demos. and 10 * 30 = 300, so yea it skips a month.

I find it very annoying..

Arseniy Zarche 13-Sep-20 04:08 PM

may i? https://youtu.be/3_H7BFsyupI (edited)

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Воскресный стрим (only Teeworlds)

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Souly 13-Sep-20 05:27 PM

@Tonixe i feel like you can use arrow keys to skip 5s of demo

TsFreddie 13-Sep-20 05:44 PM

Hey, can you please make the scrollbar in the demo section less sensitive. I have auto record on, I have around 10 demos per day or more. I scroll once and it literally skips a month of demos. I even counted it and it skipped around 322 demos. and 10 * 30 = 300, so yea it skips a month.

@Tonixe if you mean the file browser, it is fixed in master branch already. so it will be less sensitive in the next version

Tonixe 13-Sep-20 05:59 PM

yes I mean the 'file browser', so it will be fixed in the next version ok thanks

TsFreddie 13-Sep-20 08:15 PM

np

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 13-Sep-20 08:53 PM

what is f in the client ?

// reset velocity so the client doesn't predict stuff m_Core.m_Vel = vec2(0.f, 0.f);

(edited)

like this

for the ninja

is that the friction in air ?

help pls

heinrich5991 13-Sep-20 09:04 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 it's the same as 0.0 here

0.0 is of type double, 0.0f is of type float

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 13-Sep-20 09:08 PM

what is double ._.

a gerdoe 13-Sep-20 09:09 PM

variable type

heinrich5991 13-Sep-20 09:09 PM

double is an 8 byte float type, float is a 4 byte float type

like int is 4 bytes and short is 2 bytes

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 13-Sep-20 09:14 PM

ok

Attachment: message.txt (2.03 KB)

can someone say if the code is good and no erorr are in ?

please ?

a gerdoe 13-Sep-20 09:18 PM

try to compile, if you would get errors - you will know it

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 13-Sep-20 09:18 PM

ok

it works, but i don't what i wanted to do

the programm doesn't create more than 3 bullets

and i requested to create 12 bullets

so what tha heckkk

can someone help me pls ;-;

idk how to fix it

Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:09 PM

Any tips why this code even can segfault?

CEntity *CGameWorld::FindFirst(int Type) { // i am checking that array exist, so it should be initialized or at least contain nullptr's if (!m_apFirstEntityTypes) return 0; // segfaults here, how this is possible? if (!m_apFirstEntityTypes[Type]) return 0; return Type < 0 || Type >= NUM_ENTTYPES ? 0 : m_apFirstEntityTypes[Type]; }

cpp

I feel so noob.

I know there are linked lists and have more or less read the code already for removal, initialisation and destroy. But it seems that in worst case m_apFirstEntityTypes[Type] should always be accessible and contain nullptr or 0

fokkonaut 13-Sep-20 10:12 PM

c++ CEntity *CGameWorld::FindFirst(int Type) { if(Type < 0 || Type >= NUM_ENTTYPES) return 0; return m_apFirstEntityTypes[Type]; }

(edited)

if Type is < 0 or >= num, then you cant access the array

Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:13 PM

Ok, nice point. But I have crashdump where Type is 5 which is a valid entity type in my mod (a custom entity). (edited)

NUM_ENTTYPES is 25 in my mod.

fokkonaut 13-Sep-20 10:14 PM

dont do these weird extra checks

no need

it just is not what you want there

Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:15 PM

Then it will just segfault on last line. I've added it for a debug

fokkonaut 13-Sep-20 10:15 PM

Then the error is not here but somewhere where you use the entitiy returned from this function

Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:15 PM

it cannot do m_apFirstEntityTypes[5] for some reason

fokkonaut 13-Sep-20 10:15 PM

if the function returns 0 you cant just use the entity

Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:15 PM

but it's the top of a stack on crashdump

fokkonaut 13-Sep-20 10:15 PM

u need to check after the function is used

Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:16 PM

Yeah, but stacktrace is not where I use returned value but where I am accessing it.

Can stacktrace in a crashdump be wrong and point to some earlier point?

fokkonaut 13-Sep-20 10:16 PM

c++ CEntity *pEnt = GameWorld()->FindFirst(ENTTYPE_XY); if (pEnt) { // do something with it here in safety }

Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:17 PM

But... why segfaults points to inside of FindFirst and not in the code in brackets then?

Is that possible?

Maybe this is how gdb works?

fokkonaut 13-Sep-20 10:18 PM

You can have undefined behaviour

good night

Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:18 PM

for (CEngineerWall* pWall = (CEngineerWall*)GameWorld()->FindFirst(CGameWorld::ENTTYPE_ENGINEER_WALL); pWall; pWall = (CEngineerWall*)pWall->TypeNext()) { if (pWall->m_Owner != m_pPlayer->GetCID()) continue; GameServer()->m_World.DestroyEntity(pWall); }

this is the previous frame

gn, thanks

TsFreddie 13-Sep-20 10:19 PM

it is possible you have some sort of optimization enabled?

Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:19 PM

I think it's possible, it's a release build with debug symbols

TsFreddie 13-Sep-20 10:19 PM

that would make sense

optimized binary can jump all over the places

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Pure_luck 13-Sep-20 10:20 PM

It seems that you both helped me a lot.

I was just stuck with this, error seemed to be pointing to the wrong place.

Now I know that it is possible.

Thanks! (edited)

Learath2 13-Sep-20 11:37 PM

When in doubt get a debug build

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 13-Sep-20 11:49 PM

can someone help me to create a programm that check the team we are and the other tees

idk how to start

(sry for bad english btw)

Learath2 13-Sep-20 11:50 PM

I'd give you a hand but I don't seem to understand what you want to do

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 13-Sep-20 11:52 PM

I want to create a program that checks which team I'm on and checks the players if they are on the same team as me

same for enemmies

so ?

@Learath2 and i want to create it in .lua file

Learath2 13-Sep-20 11:55 PM

Well there is no lua virtual machine inside teeworlds, so you can't code in lua

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 13-Sep-20 11:56 PM

but i create it for the client not for the server

i think its an another kind of code ?

Learath2 14-Sep-20 12:00 AM

Both the server and the client are coded in C++

I think there is ATH that has lua scripting in it, but that's 0.6 only

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Sep-20 12:02 AM

oh yes i want to code it for ath in O.6

so how to code it ?

@Learath2 sorry for mention but not answering :/

Learath2 14-Sep-20 12:08 AM

Sorry, I'm not familiar with ATH's lua hooks

It's fine, you can always ping me when I'm being slow. Means I'm working on something else and if you don't ping you'll never get your answer

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Sep-20 12:08 AM

ah ...

ok thanks :D

but.... do you know someone who know how to code in ath lua script ?

@Learath2

OoGToO 14-Sep-20 12:22 AM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Sep-20 12:35 AM

@Learath2 please answer i need you :/

noby 14-Sep-20 12:35 AM

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Sep-20 12:37 AM

whyyyyy

a gerdoe 14-Sep-20 01:01 AM

i think ath has it owns documentation, you can read it

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Sep-20 02:28 AM

yes but i don't understand anything :/

and how to create something that check what team me and the others players are

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Sep-20 02:48 AM

bc i have a lua script that highlight tees and i want the other lua script auto highlight friend/enemies with checking team... some help ?

jxsl13 14-Sep-20 03:15 AM

I think ath should not be promoted here at all, as it's a cheat client.

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Lua will most likely not be the solution anyway. You will have to learn C++ and that will be a long way.

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And learning English before learning a programming language would help quite A LOT. (edited)

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noby 14-Sep-20 03:41 AM

+1

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 07:26 AM

a gerdoe 14-Sep-20 09:34 AM

current ath has no cheats, but previous versions can be used as cheat clients

Pure_luck 14-Sep-20 10:16 AM

I think that a complexity involving lua to cpp bidirectional binding is exceeds that of doing anything in a C++ alone. (edited)

I've got rid of lua completely in my mod. It was used for maps configuration with some dynamic portions. I use yaml now for configuration and all dynamic things are in cpp code. Works like a charm. Even loading arrays from a lua to C++ was a non-trivial task prone to many errors. But no more. (edited)

Ah, you were talking about client-side lua. But it's the same, for the time you will spend to learn lua + it's integration API you could learn how things really works in C++ and that would be a better investment. C++ is not that hard and have arguably much more simpler syntax than lua. After you will finally learn embedded lua to some esoteric client you will get to its limitations soon. Then you will try to extend this lua and will find out that extending embedded lua interface is harder than writing what you want to do directly to C++ code. Also with embedded interpreter you will not get full picture on errors and debug process will be more of a trial and error. You cannot use GDB with lua, you cannot tell compiler to check typing or trivial errors for you. And most of errors you will encounter will be related to a lua to C++ interface. People rarely use lua in opensource C++ projects so you will be mostly alone in this. (edited)

But maybe ath has a great and friendly community, nice documentation and a lot of code examples? I doubt it. You are thinking about using lua only because you don't have sources for ath. But you have sources of teeworlds and you can do anything with it. (edited)

I think ath should not be promoted here at all, as it's a cheat client.

ath is an open secret. Telling people how lame it is is not a promoting I hope (edited)

And learn English before learning a programming language would help quite A LOT.

Yes, and also finding someone actually talking your native language will also help. Because learning 2 languages (c++ and English) at the same time is hard. But I agree that without being able to read docs you could start asking all sorts of trivial programming things and that could annoy a person which would want to help you. Learning technical language is simpler than learning everyday language if you know programming. (edited)

noby 14-Sep-20 10:50 AM

@Pure_luck u can still follow the principle of not promoting/discussing cheat clients here while understanding that most people are probably going to find out about them from other sources anyway imo

Pure_luck 14-Sep-20 10:52 AM

It's like when you're not telling kids about drugs or sex and then they will try it anyway. Just they will not know anything about it. (edited)

I think that discussion about bad things (like closed-source precompiled client with hacks and probably with viruses/backdoors) is healthy and avoiding it is not. (edited)

All this ban/avoid talks culture is not mature and will never work. (edited)

It's just makes kids/people think you're not honest. Because you know something and don't want others to know and also to make an argument. (edited)

It still will be discussed just you will not be invited to that discussion and will not have a chance to say a word against it.

But that was not the matter I've discussed originally. My point was about to use open-sourced clients and avoid precompiled ones with lua.

LorixSs2 14-Sep-20 10:59 AM

Joined the server.

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 11:05 AM

jxsl13 14-Sep-20 11:49 AM

I have not opened the client in ages, doesn't the current version have zoom stuff @a gerdoe ? (edited)

a gerdoe 14-Sep-20 11:58 AM

dk, just know that ath blocks "cheat" scripts

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 12:00 PM

scripts for server sounds cool. not sure how i feel about client scripts

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jxsl13 14-Sep-20 12:20 PM

Well, the zoom stuff is part of the client itself, not some script.

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 12:52 PM

2

freetype stroker seems much faster, and cleaner as well

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Dune 14-Sep-20 01:28 PM

for comparison

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 14-Sep-20 05:20 PM

@Pure_luck thanks for the help :D

but ive learned a bit the docs of ath, and i can do some nice things ! (no cheats but better experience)

Dccbubble 14-Sep-20 05:38 PM

Joined the server.

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 05:47 PM

should the flag be more "in" the ground?

might be just me, but a floating flag is kinda weird

Ravie 14-Sep-20 05:48 PM

I think there are already flag holders planned

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 05:49 PM

oh

that would be better

Stiopa 14-Sep-20 05:57 PM

that's a feature!

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 07:27 PM

shouldn't this be opacity?

Stiopa 14-Sep-20 07:37 PM

opacity, transparency, what's the difference?

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 07:37 PM

i think opacity is how opaque it is, so the higher the less transparent.

transparency is the other way around, the higher the more transparent

Learath2 14-Sep-20 08:00 PM

Heh, yep opacity would make more sense there

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 08:01 PM

we can flip the numbers if we don't want to break all the translations

Learath2 14-Sep-20 08:03 PM

The man with the solutions

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 08:07 PM

Freddie the Nitpicker

El BobLex 14-Sep-20 08:16 PM

I've been out the loop for a while. Is there really over 1k players right now or is the 0.7 server browser somehow showing 0.6 servers too?

TsFreddie 14-Sep-20 08:19 PM

ddnet released on steam, they were on the front page of steam for a few days (hence the new players) (edited)

and yes, they made a cross version compatibility layer.

so in someway it is showing 0.6 servers, but you can play in them just fine

jxsl13 14-Sep-20 08:34 PM

opacity is the opposite of transparency :D (100% opacity is 0% transparency) (edited)

El BobLex 14-Sep-20 08:34 PM

jxsl13 14-Sep-20 08:35 PM

I am too poor to react to this with some cool reaction :'/ (edited)

heinrich5991 14-Sep-20 08:35 PM

always fits

El BobLex 14-Sep-20 08:39 PM

Dune 14-Sep-20 08:42 PM

@TsFreddie yeah it should be opacity

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1732

Flag on spot is in the air · Issue #1732 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Flag on spot is in the air. Dropped flag is on the ground.

Stiopa 14-Sep-20 09:12 PM

last comment on january

so many inactive issues

Dune 14-Sep-20 10:21 PM

back when I was working on it, I found it to be very time consuming, and the benefit is small enough that it makes more sense to work on other issues instead

Pure_luck 14-Sep-20 10:26 PM

I am just placing flags by precise world coordinates in my mod instead of tile coords.

Also why don't just shift flag position down if that's a problem?

Sonix 14-Sep-20 10:27 PM

cause it will get confused with "dropped" status

Pure_luck 14-Sep-20 10:28 PM

I've never noticed the difference. You have good eyes.

Also it's clear when flag is dropped: 1. Its not on base 2. Flashing UI element

And I've played CTF for years.

a gerdoe 14-Sep-20 10:34 PM

and sound effect

Ravie 15-Sep-20 12:50 AM

but how do you know when someone dropped the flag right above the base and get your free point

Skayland 15-Sep-20 02:29 AM

am i blind or dune changes his dune picture some times?

heinrich5991 15-Sep-20 04:34 AM

that's the dune picture from the forums at least

Pure_luck 15-Sep-20 07:42 AM

but how do you know when someone dropped the flag right above the base and get your free point

why should you care if a flag is dropped on a base?

usually there should be a defender in CTF guarding the flag ideally touching it and blocking incomers (edited)

and get your free point

and it's such a rare situtation (flag precisely on a base) compared to killing some enemy that nobody should care about this +1 score (edited)

Sonix 15-Sep-20 08:03 AM

A defender shouldn’t always retrieve it back btw, especially in tight games where every touch matters

But thats OT

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 10:10 AM

Dune 15-Sep-20 10:43 AM

@Skayland it looks lile that when I put it in the washing machine

Iman 15-Sep-20 10:56 AM

i think it was more orange few months before :0

maybe try a different treatment or it will become completely white !!!

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 11:23 AM

not enough bleach

lobster 15-Sep-20 12:53 PM

Joined the server.

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 01:38 PM

oops

supercatYT 15-Sep-20 03:30 PM

ops

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 04:22 PM

Learath2 15-Sep-20 04:33 PM

@noby nice vote

noby 15-Sep-20 04:33 PM

huh lol

how

Learath2 15-Sep-20 04:36 PM

Or it's @TsFreddie that broke some font rendering

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 04:36 PM

i broke it

forgot to ~~clear cached quad~~ skip quad rendering each frame for that cursor (edited)

so it just adds more each frame

but it shows the cache ™️ is working

but still @noby you should fix this

Move 'move '%s' to spectators' to spectators

noby 15-Sep-20 04:39 PM

lol

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 04:39 PM

kick has the same problem

noby 15-Sep-20 04:39 PM

0.7 bug i think

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 04:39 PM

0.7 moved some string to client for translation i guess

Learath2 15-Sep-20 04:40 PM

@noby yeah you need to send only the name of the client now

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 04:40 PM

maybe slice the vote message before send to 0.7 clients

idk how the compat layer works

Learath2 15-Sep-20 04:41 PM

All of us have different implementations of it I think

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 04:44 PM

somebody need to make a 0.7 to 0.6 layer

ddnet base might be too overkill for some simple gamemodes

other than the worst offenders, i finished rewriting all other text calls

but i think i'll restore all the codes with updated text calls without fancy cahcing. lineinput, chat and console needs rework, but I think that should be a separate PR

a gerdoe 15-Sep-20 04:54 PM

@TsFreddie fokko did, didnt he?

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 04:55 PM

i didn't know. i might have a look later.

a gerdoe 15-Sep-20 04:55 PM

of course

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 15-Sep-20 05:17 PM

what app should i use to dev in c++ ?

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 05:19 PM

i use vscode

Learath2 15-Sep-20 05:41 PM

I use VSCode too but you can use pretty much any text editor with syntax highlighting

I used sublime text for a long time, Atom is pretty popular

TsFreddie 15-Sep-20 05:57 PM

why i started to feel like this is not worth it.

I need to get some lunch. forgot about eating completely.

Pure_luck 16-Sep-20 09:23 AM

vscode is really nice for C++ and it's free

not so nice for other languages like ruby

mikus 16-Sep-20 11:21 AM

Joined the server.

Dune 16-Sep-20 01:32 PM

vscode also heats the room for free

TsFreddie 16-Sep-20 01:42 PM

The power of javascript

Stiopa 16-Sep-20 01:48 PM

I use vs :d

Learath2 16-Sep-20 02:43 PM

@Dune for an electron application, it's surprisingly decent

Spotify is the worst offender

Dune 16-Sep-20 02:45 PM

@Learath2 I agree

it's impressive how they built something using garbage material and it doesn't smell

Learath2 16-Sep-20 02:45 PM

The people who coded the spotify client are probably constantly on drugs. How can you even leak that much (edited)

Dune 16-Sep-20 02:46 PM

I wonder how much faster it is to develop something on top of a high-level framework like electron

Learath2 16-Sep-20 02:50 PM

well with electron the beauty is that you can hire web developers instead of software engineers

and the UI/UX design is just standard web stuff

TsFreddie 16-Sep-20 02:50 PM

ye, it is pretty much a browser.

Learath2 16-Sep-20 02:51 PM

it is a browser, it's literally running chromium

TsFreddie 16-Sep-20 02:52 PM

chromium is huge, just thinking about i have like 10 chromium installed would makes me cringe.

Learath2 16-Sep-20 02:53 PM

chromium embedded framework is like a taad smaller than chrome, but it's indeed massive

and it has horrendous memory usage

heinrich5991 16-Sep-20 04:37 PM

vscode is open-core

when you build the editor yourself, you'll miss some features, such as the extensions store

TsFreddie 16-Sep-20 04:39 PM

i remember me doing just fine with notepad++ years ago. now i feel pretty useless without vscode

GOKU BLACK 16-Sep-20 08:00 PM

Joined the server.

sebi 16-Sep-20 09:02 PM

Joined the server.

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 10:06 AM

Still have some free servers if anyone is interested... PM me...

noby 17-Sep-20 10:44 AM

@MarisaG iperf3 -c speedtest.myloc.de -p 5200 -P 10 -4 -R

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 10:46 AM

That will have to be done once I know which server the client wants, as I have servers in datacenters around the world. Let me give it a try on my main server...

ShootXen 17-Sep-20 10:47 AM

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 10:48 AM

Hmm, assuming the port is for teeworlds?

noby 17-Sep-20 10:49 AM

its just speedtest

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 10:50 AM

My server is on 8305

Should I run that command on the system in question?

Ok I did it and I have it like this:

You need the whole output?

That server is loaded more heavily than the ones I am donating...

noby 17-Sep-20 10:57 AM

why does my $5 google vps get better bandwidth

didnt u say 40gbit

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 10:58 AM

LOL no idea. Likely due to the location that server is at to germany

That's what I was told by linode, yes

noby 17-Sep-20 10:59 AM

u should ask them

why ure getting 20x lower bandwidth than promised(?)

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 10:59 AM

Haven't seen any issues on my servers though. I have found the distance apart has a lot of bearing on the speed

Never tested it to verify what I was told

noby 17-Sep-20 10:59 AM

i mean, feel free to find a better speedtest server than speedtest.myloc.de

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 10:59 AM

And as I said that server is heavier loaded than the ones in question

noby 17-Sep-20 10:59 AM

loaded by what

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 11:00 AM

Other games and apps

For instance I run Alien Arena servers around the world, which certainly take more bandwidth that teeworlds

And those servers pretty much have good results

noby 17-Sep-20 11:01 AM

im sure 2gbits is more than enough for any game

im only asking about bandwidth in the context of mitigating ddos

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 11:02 AM

Ah ok I understand then

I could integrate fail2ban on it to help with ddos

If there is a log file to parse

noby 17-Sep-20 11:02 AM

irrelevant

tw ddoses are usually spoofed udp packets

usually serverinfo requests or connect requests

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 11:03 AM

ah ok

noby 17-Sep-20 11:03 AM

fail2ban is for ssh attempts

and having high bandwidth helps indirectly

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 11:04 AM

Ive seen many ddos attempts on my BBS, which is detected by fail2ban on ssh & rlogin ports

They tend to give up after a while, though maybe it being a BBS might be partly to cause that

noby 17-Sep-20 11:05 AM

what kindof attack are they using?

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 11:05 AM

Attempting to brute force account/passwords, or connecting but never logging in to the BBS

They actually try "root" as the user LOL

Synchronet handles the SMTP and rlogin connections.

So it has it's own blacklist for those. It can also do it for SSH, but I use the SSH myself so I put synchronet's ssh port on 2222 instead of 22

noby 17-Sep-20 11:07 AM

oh well thats a totally different issue i guess

ddosing with ssh login attempts is just impractical

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 11:07 AM

yep

If they try like 3 times they get banned

noby 17-Sep-20 11:08 AM

fail2ban is good

but not against ddos

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 11:08 AM

I have all my BBS's set up to allow at least 10 simultaneous users so the ones that connect but never log in never actually block the system

I suppose those are better called hack atempts, not really ddos

noby 17-Sep-20 11:19 AM

@MarisaG fail2ban works by reading log files i believe, so not the best way to mitigate attacks

MarisaG 17-Sep-20 11:20 AM

Ya true.

Anatomy 17-Sep-20 02:30 PM

Joined the server.

|۞Шคŝŝi๓ ⁶₆⁷ ŦลЌลђĨяǾ۞| 17-Sep-20 04:44 PM

Joined the server.

wsh

benj 17-Sep-20 06:48 PM

yo

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 06:49 PM

Rilla 17-Sep-20 08:27 PM

Does someone know if there is a kind of elo system for 0.7? i found one for 0.6 but it seems like the development stopped there unfortunatly :/ we actually are thinking about one for our 0.7 gctf servers

Dune 17-Sep-20 08:46 PM

Elo doesn't work on a game without accounts

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:08 PM

@TsFreddie I'd wanted to re-learn German too

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:08 PM

re-learn, how much do you know already (edited)

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:09 PM

knew some basics from a school

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:09 PM

oh. we only have english in school

there are no choices

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:09 PM

I've had 2 languages

but not too long, just 2 classes of very basic German

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:09 PM

i mean pre college ofc

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:10 PM

I know like 100 most common words I believe and some vague grammar rules

sometimes I get what players talk in tw

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:10 PM

that sounds plenty already

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:10 PM

1000 and be it active dictonary would be much nicer

though I will learn Polish sooner (edited)

as I am about to move there

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:11 PM

i can probably read more than 100 words in japanese without learning anything. which is nice lol

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:11 PM

Polska

(edited)

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:11 PM

I know 10 Polish swears

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:11 PM

why do you have so many languages in europe anyway ~~not really a question~~ (edited)

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:11 PM

it's enough to have a punch in a face I guess

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:12 PM

good (edited)

all ya need to know in Poland

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:12 PM

someone should invent a script that will emulate a typewriter effect in discord with edits

or laughing and grimacing smiles

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:12 PM

aren't polish ppl extremely nice

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:13 PM

that'd be canadians

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:13 PM

xd

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:13 PM

or was it dutch

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:13 PM

canadians are extremely nice

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:13 PM

~~canadians are more like apologists.~~

~~probably shouldn't say that.~~

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:14 PM

Polish people are nice if you believe that 'twoju mamku ebal' is 'nice to meet you dear Sir'. Which I've believed is true while learning proper manners in CTF

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:14 PM

:D

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:14 PM

in fact I was trolling them because it sounds almost like that in Russian

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:15 PM

well, yes

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:15 PM

but players were eager to teach me new nice phrases

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:15 PM

there are many similarities

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:15 PM

i've seen plenty of caonima from americans already.

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:15 PM

to have manners

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:16 PM

I wish the teewolrds community was a bit larger tho >.< (edited)

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:16 PM

chinese servers in general can be a dumster fire when some "foreigners" join

I wish chinese community is more connected with teeworlds community.

but you guys probably won't want that tbh

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:17 PM

why?

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:17 PM

I'd wanted to get more players

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:17 PM

well there are way too many ppl, bound to have some degeneracy.

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:17 PM

even persians would be ok

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:18 PM

they can be quite toxic. might be a culture thing

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:18 PM

all new communities bring good & bad apples

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:18 PM

worst days of my mod I was thinking writing bots for it

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:18 PM

i had stayed at chinese fleet in mmorpg game, they're very friendly and helpful, but always someone was to send 18+ joke in group chat

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:18 PM

chinese players having their own community may allow them to host servers in china with good ping. Americans don't really have their own games on american ping

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:18 PM

yes

we host our own server and forums and stuff

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:19 PM

I've tried to up USA server before I realized that 6 USA players are in fact are 2 girls using 3 nicknames each.

2

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:19 PM

I find it calamitious how people outside europe have to play on bad ping on the only active public CTF server

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:20 PM

I kinda kickstarted the chinese teeworlds community, but I wasn't managing them too well so somebody else took the mod of forums and social groups.

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:20 PM

I could up USA instance and host CTF/DM/etc there but I am pretty sure there will be no players to justify it.

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:20 PM

exactly, Pure_luck

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:20 PM

The game is just not as popular in USA, idk why (edited)

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:20 PM

teeworlds needs more players.

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:21 PM

well you can't really ask for more players

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:21 PM

teeworlds just have nothing to excite players now

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:21 PM

i've been trying to advertise teeworlds in china for two years

then the steam release of ddnet kicked all my efforts to dust.

lol

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:22 PM

even TeeMMORPG/Adventure is not expressive. It's so clear that everything is made of the same 2 pickups (edited)

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:22 PM

now we have like around 1k active chinese players

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:22 PM

@Pure_luck лет 5-6 тому назад хотел рекламу с трейлером тии на региональный канал заказать, но вовремя спохватился и вышел из дурмана

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:23 PM

@a gerdoe ddnet make nice video trailers and video tutorials to get players. I mean really nice.

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:23 PM

до сих пор осадочек неприятный, может и надо было

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:23 PM

oh right, is anybody here actually native in any of the arabic languages

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:23 PM

n-no

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:23 PM

@TsFreddie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEaVhiCB_GM

No More Buttons

MineTee

Teeworlds mod (client & server) made long time ago...

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:23 PM

I know a dude on CTF that is from Tunisia

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:24 PM

@TsFreddie I want serverside controllable tiles so much

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:24 PM

oof minetee was so buggy, but so good

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:24 PM

buggy because it has to fight with prediction

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:24 PM

I want entities that can be hooked

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:24 PM

well i can't really help you, i can give you my opinions and advices to push changes

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:24 PM

like boulders that I can use hook to rain upon in ctf5

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:24 PM

or buggy because it was one-man-made client?

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:24 PM

@Pure_luck, no, problem was in map structure, each 5 minutes you would need to save map

if it crashes - bruh you lost your progress

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:25 PM

i guess if you only want destrutables

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:25 PM

maybe I could help this modder

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:25 PM

that would be less of a problem

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:25 PM

and learn something in the process

at least I can debug crashes

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:26 PM

if you would fing him

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:26 PM

well you can just fork it and do it better

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:26 PM

i guess if you only want destrutables

I would want to have layers that could be turned on and off from a server

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:26 PM

the license allows you do to exactly that

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:26 PM

to make that goddamn menu from infClass without writing a 3000+ lines on the fly map convertor

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:26 PM

fng wasn't the same as the 0.5 fng anymore.

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:27 PM

@a gerdoe I think he abandoned the project already. But I could

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:27 PM

~~although i don't know why they called it fng2, since it is like the 4th largest fng mod~~

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:27 PM

last video was in Sep, 1, 2020 and was called "look what cool project I has abandoned long ago"

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:27 PM

isn't that unsigned char from the forums?

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:27 PM

huh

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:27 PM

I believe he is

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:28 PM

https://gitlab.com/Tardo/MineTee

Projects · QS5ELkMu / MineTee

Server/Client Mod for Teeworlds v0.6.x

is this it

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:28 PM

And I didn't even announced my mod yet on forums

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:28 PM

I wonder what will come out of the water issue

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:28 PM

realistically, nothing

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:29 PM

tune zones for water float effect? :half-troll:

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:29 PM

https://youtu.be/aCVueivH-EM

wwwCLANHDPnet

MineTee - Slowly Development Progress

Mod of Teeworlds 0.6

hdp clan

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:29 PM

2012, @a gerdoe

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:29 PM

yeah

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:30 PM

my video was from 2020

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:30 PM

and?..

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:30 PM

and was called "look what cool project I has abandoned long ago"

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:30 PM

tune zones tbh sounds like a server hack, just sending tuning params to clients with some triggers

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:30 PM

I think that there were 2 devs doing minetee

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:30 PM

i just found another video with another publisher xd (edited)

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:30 PM

after one abandoned it second one started

@TsFreddie you're right. ddnet already can do that for sixup clients

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:31 PM

and yes. the water thing is pretty easy to do in server mods. the only push i can see that "might" happen is on the visual side

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:31 PM

also I would love to have a vector for gravity

not just a scalar value

https://ddnet.tw/settingscommands/#tunings

There are 4124 different possibilities and changes

but in fact just 40 settings

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:34 PM

tbh, i don't think master should support anything out of the box that are just doable in server mods. VM is an idea of solving everything, but that might lessen the idea of teeworlds, and more into the general-purpose engine territory.

even with no change at all. teeworlds itself is still pretty good for ppl just to do simple things and probably learn C++.

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:35 PM

what does VM stand for?

google returns "visual merchandising" and "virtual machines"

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:36 PM

virtual machine for a server to be able to run code on client, think JS in browser

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:36 PM

virtual machine, but not like the full-blown hypervisor ones. just a term for executing codes. in a container environment (edited)

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:36 PM

ahh

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:36 PM

tw is in declining stage, adding cool general purpose features could slow this down or give it a chance for a renaissance

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:36 PM

when did you started to play teeworlds

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:37 PM

2013 I believe (edited)

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:37 PM

the there was a "declining stage" when teeworlds transitioned from 0.5 to 0.6.

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:37 PM

I think ~2013 too

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:38 PM

well, you see

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:38 PM

it happens.

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:38 PM

the transitioning from 0.6 to 0.7 is not going very swimmingly

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:38 PM

well ppl were still playing 0.5 fng when i made solofng in 2014

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:38 PM

and, while I have not seen 0.5 -> 0.6, I would dare to say that the transition is much tougher

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:38 PM

and Nodes never made it into 0.6

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:39 PM

eh, i thought that 0.7 would be updated 0.5 with fresh, cool community... and it just... dead?

nodes was remade on 0.7, take a look (edited)

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:39 PM

i know

i'm glad node is back

for some community 0.6 was dead too.

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:39 PM

yep, great mod for lan parties

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:40 PM

tbh this game was always "dead" lol

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:40 PM

I think teeworlds had like 1.3k people in 2014 0.6

with DDNet releaswe attracting the many people, the numbers are high again

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:40 PM

not always!

0.4-0.5 times are great

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:41 PM

in a sense this game is really old.

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:41 PM

(unfortunately focused mostly on the DDRaceNetwork gamemode, but it is definitely an admirable success for them)

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:41 PM

ddnet is kind of a new game, just happens to be compatible with teeworlds

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:41 PM

DDRaceNetwork grew through hard work and persistence, props to them for that

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:41 PM

it is about time ppl get bored of teeworlds lol

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:42 PM

it however disappoints me to see vanilla still dead

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:42 PM

ddrace have the ability to bring new contents every week

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:42 PM

at least back before 0.7 release there were 2 full public ctf servers

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:42 PM

i looked at 0.5 serverbrowser in 2011 winter evening wih pepe face, i saw 30 servers without players... (edited)

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:42 PM

it is pretty hard to imagine standard types getting new stuff.

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:42 PM

@a gerdoe I played 0.5 in 2013 xd

that my was tw version because the site I downloaded tw from hadn't modernized

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:43 PM

0.6 kickstarted chinese teeworlds community, which is pretty great. you can't put chinese in 0.5

at least not easily

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:43 PM

I was literally starting on an outdated version and playing mods on there (I remember playing 0.5 explorer version having ticked off the "uncompatible" version) (edited)

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:43 PM

0.5 has tons of great mods, including scriptable servers

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:43 PM

or having been learning the game on vani in 0.5 on a rainy saturday

great memories

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:43 PM

0.6 has ddrace.

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:44 PM

or my first clan set up on a city server in .5

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:44 PM

startline of ddnet is great also

but now i cant say that community is great also (edited)

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:44 PM

0.6 also had Battle, zEsc

so many great gamemodes I have very fond memories of

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:44 PM

now that i realised

i probably never properly played this game

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:44 PM

hence I have zESC in 0.7 as a pet project

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:45 PM

all of my memory is coding chinese clients and managing forums

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:45 PM

eh, now you can freely play teeworlds under debug xd

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:45 PM

love and dedication to spreading teeworlds in china <3

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:46 PM

i only played fng probably

i'm awful at ddr (edited)

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:46 PM

I recommend vani

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:46 PM

now the entire chn community is ddr based (edited)

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:46 PM

mostly that it's the only gamemode I play nowadays

tho I should probably get back to playing infNext <:

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:46 PM

is 0.7 vanilla battles fun?

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:47 PM

hey

free FPS

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a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:47 PM

i tried to return in vanilla at 0.7.3, it was awful boring gameplay

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:47 PM

@a gerdoe to be honest?

among the casual vanilla

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:47 PM

ye

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:47 PM

it's always ctf5

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:47 PM

yeah, thats it... (edited)

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:47 PM

and it's filled with decent players that usually don't go competetive

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:48 PM

ctf5 is gold.

it is way too good. mods usually just take ctf5 as base map

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:48 PM

ctf5 may be gold, but it's the same goddamn map since like 10 years!

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:48 PM

its not for old players

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:48 PM

Jesus Christ

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:48 PM

well like dust2

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:49 PM

and my attempts to convince players to play other maps (aka go competetive) were either

1) futile or

2) partially successful

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:49 PM

old players were playing on ctf1-3 mostly

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:49 PM

vanilla can be competitive with some proper rule set. but you have to find the right players to play with

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:49 PM

3) some players were discouraged by attitude of the high levels

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:49 PM

which is impossible

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:49 PM

@TsFreddie there is a group of people who play high level captain games etc

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:49 PM

well not in china

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:50 PM

but in "international" (mostly europeans) there is so

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:50 PM

Try infNext

Much more relaxing than fng

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:50 PM

nah

i'm fine with fng

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:50 PM

also wdym by rule set?

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:50 PM

Also will not require much of your time as peaks like 30 minutes long on workdays

And only 2 hours long on one of 2 holidays:)

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:51 PM

tbh fng is not competitive either. it is just people spamming the same spot and see if you can get lucky to get a kill.

also wdym by rule set?

@Stiopa restricted player counts, set amount of rounds etc

Pure_luck 17-Sep-20 10:52 PM

I get bored or exhausted at fng pretty fast. So little variance so less space for tactics and teamwork

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:52 PM

oh, yeah

the aeon clanserver has maps with the amount of players set

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:52 PM

well mostly because fng now is a 64 players melt pot

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:52 PM

^

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:52 PM

it was way more fun when the server was 16 players

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:52 PM

I liked fng when it was like 4v4

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:52 PM

4v4 yes

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:52 PM

I used to make maps for fng ^^

and had a fng primary clan in like 2014/2015

had a bud host it for me

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:53 PM

i was thinking about a ESEA-like service for teeworlds, but i'm not dedicated enough to make that a thing

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:53 PM

well, openfng to be exact

how would that even work? @TsFreddie

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:54 PM

at least some way to section players into different matches instead of them jumping into the most popular server

a webservice i guess

with accounts

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:54 PM

uhh yeah that would not work. not with the amount of players to pick from

nor with how teeworlds works in general

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:54 PM

ye..

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:54 PM

the high level ctf community bands together and plays together

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:54 PM

or a entry server that connects you into other servers

and ofc someways to form team

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:55 PM

someone suggested "join a CTF" and "join a DM" buttons

from menu

but vanilla has like

27 players right now

on 0.7

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:55 PM

well i wouldn't do anything like that for vanilla

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 10:55 PM

correction, 17

27 before refresh

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:56 PM

even if i did, i would make it a separate thing and advertise it on the side

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:56 PM

@TsFreddie are you about mess of players on nobyfng?

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:56 PM

chinese community might be a good start ~~since I can technically force them to play my mods.~~

what mess of players

i don't mind the players, just the server is a bit crowed i feel

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:58 PM

whole 0.6 life i played 1o1, 2o2, 3o3 on fng

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 10:58 PM

i played solofng more

but thats different i guess

i would love to have 4v4

a gerdoe 17-Sep-20 10:59 PM

only now i should play with heap of players, because russian fng community dead, because ddnet's points/ranks better, than competitive fng skill (edited)

"it's not prestigious"

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:17 PM

I just wanted to bring up the first video of tw I ever watched

published in 24th of november, 2011

it shows teeworlds vanilla having 187 players

I wish we had teeworlds stats across the years...

second one in march 12th, 2012 shows 186...

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 11:24 PM

cyberfighter 17-Sep-20 11:38 PM

wow what an alive game

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:40 PM

it could be more dead.

to have the game not be dead after 13 years seems like a successs...

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 11:42 PM

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:42 PM

Now, I wish the game has a bright future but it is up to the devs

and contributors

how the game will proceed

and whether it will stand the test of time

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 11:43 PM

well "the devs" is one person

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:43 PM

beloved oy

well, suggestions were made to have other people take the initiative and be "devs" too

but suggested people had 'conflicting' views

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 11:44 PM

ofc. thats what programmers do

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:44 PM

conflict all the time? :D

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 11:45 PM

at least i myself would consider me as not so coroprative.

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:45 PM

in my modding team for a different game we require cooperation ^^

1stDecadeTW 17-Sep-20 11:46 PM

I play teeworlds since 2007 or early 2008, and I can assure you that you'll never stop playing it...

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:46 PM

I don't doubt that. It has kept me intact since 2013 and I doubt it will let me go

TsFreddie 17-Sep-20 11:46 PM

well i stopped for 4~5 years

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:46 PM

until it withers away

I'll keep coming back to the game until there's nothing to come back to but empty servers.

call me foolish and overly optimistic, but I have faith in the game having its second golden age...

Zatline 17-Sep-20 11:49 PM

what tw needs to get people back into vanilla if that was the goal are new maps / new tilesets and perhaps some new mechanics like water as I suggested ^^

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:51 PM

what I really liked was https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2493, but I doubt it'd work and people would just go back to the servers without it (like it is with maprotation rn)

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

@Zatline I've read the water issue and I'd go as far as to say it made my day. Thought about water in tw for an hour straight

Zatline 17-Sep-20 11:52 PM

map vote would be great but for that to fully make an impact we need many new maps and map preview images and probably also get rid of numerical map names!

1stDecadeTW 17-Sep-20 11:52 PM

:thinkeyes: well i stopped for 4~5 years

@TsFreddie .... you can stop playing for weeks, months or years, but teeworlds will always be there to give you lots of fun moments, you'll never stop learning it's mechanics, new and competitive players come into game, each tee with an unique game style... For me teeworlds is that kind of game that I'd play even in the last days of my life

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:53 PM

well for new maps there should be a kind of "physics & map" beta as Dune mentioned in #bridge some time ago

a place where the player could test new mechanics and maps and give their opinions (edited)

Zatline 17-Sep-20 11:53 PM

@Stiopa ya man we water would be so cool

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:54 PM

I agree, but I am worried it'd end like the slopes ended

Zatline 17-Sep-20 11:55 PM

well I'm still for slopes tho not sure what the issue is why it doesn't get implemented

Stiopa 17-Sep-20 11:56 PM

it'd probably be good to know that so that no other feature suffers the same fate

though I am not sure how I'd react to slopes after 7 years of playing without 'em

also, I should have asked in the github issue probably, but does the water suggestion include water that can "flow" from one spot to another through explosion et al?

or a tile that has "watery" properties

1stDecadeTW 18-Sep-20 12:00 AM

what tw needs to get people back into vanilla if that was the goal are new maps / new tilesets and perhaps some new mechanics like water as I suggested ^^

@Zatline I totally agree + add slopes... What if CTF-10, the perfect map not yet made by anyone, awaits the implementation of slopes, water or other mechanisms to surpass CTF-5?

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:00 AM

i wish this game would be more popular

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:01 AM

I wish this game would be more popular too. Seems to be a pretty common thought among the teeworlds players, doesn't it?

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:01 AM

yeah

i wish it had a decent amount like 50k maybe 90k

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:01 AM

even constant 3k would suffice

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:02 AM

@1stDecadeTW the thing is I think there should never be a ctf10 ! get rid of the numerical map naming

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:02 AM

what I really liked was https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2493, but I doubt it'd work and people would just go back to the servers without it (like it is with maprotation rn)

@Stiopa

https://code.visualstudio.com/

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

this is huge to hear from oy

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:02 AM

well, this issue has been dead silent for 6 months

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:02 AM

6 months isn't that long

i can get to it once i'm done with the textrender

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Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:02 AM

true. still. I dislike inactivity!

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:03 AM

i wonder how this game will grow and become very popular

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:03 AM

I'm for giving maps actual names .. ctf1, ctf2, ctf3 .. makes my head spin so hard to remember

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:03 AM

I'm used to it by this point

I know all of them by heart... well the ctf ones

dm ones not so much

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:04 AM

i remember like a few months ago i edited teewords

edited the source code

visual studio is not responding

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:04 AM

also a problem with numerical map naming is u can't rly rotate unpopular maps out and easily replace em

remember old cft4?

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:05 AM

yeah

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:05 AM

actually is there any attempts of creating new vanilla maps?

were they rejected?

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:06 AM

there is but currently I'm focused on making new tilesets I think Sonix should have some good candidates

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:06 AM

ctf_lava

:P

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:06 AM

cool

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:06 AM

ctf lava should be official map

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:06 AM

visual studio really hates me opening up teeworlds

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:07 AM

you don't need visual studio

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:07 AM

well in my comment to liquid thread I suggested adding possibilities for more liquids (including lava for ctf_lava)

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:07 AM

you can use other editors and use msbuild or bam

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:07 AM

i know

yeah but visual studio is easier

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:07 AM

well I hate to be that guy, but have you tried vscode

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:07 AM

whats a vscode

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:08 AM

microsoft basically ported their C++ intellisense to vscode

Visual Studio Code - Code Editing. Redefined

Visual Studio Code is a code editor redefined and optimized for building and debugging modern web and cloud applications. Visual Studio Code is free and available on your favorite platform - Linux, macOS, and Windows.

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:08 AM

@Stopia ya that would be cool

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:09 AM

all that is needed are thoughts, opinions, discussions and tests.

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:09 AM

I'm actually working on a vulcane tileset for 0.8 so lava fluid mechanics would be greate for that

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:09 AM

yes it worked

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:09 AM

(hence it pains to see that the water issue discussion has halted)

maybe it will revive once oy gets the time to look through the issues & hopefully comments

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:10 AM

oy seems to be active on weekends

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:10 AM

that is true

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:10 AM

yeah I hope Oy marks it as feature and supports the idea

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:11 AM

tommorows my pizza day

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:11 AM

~~i hope oy just implement it straight up~~

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:11 AM

you can simply use kill tiles for lava

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:11 AM

well yes

but that is BORING (edited)

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:12 AM

water on the other hand

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:12 AM

a lava liquid in which the enemy tee groans and suffers

over the course of a second

is much more satisfying to the bloodthirsty tee

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:12 AM

i wonder if you could make a port of teeworlds to switch

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:12 AM

the groans and moans of a tee going up in flames... mmm

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:12 AM

to be fair, i'm not too keen on the physics part, but adding visuals could be pretty nice

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:12 AM

rather than a simple pop

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:13 AM

@Stiopa sounds like pure satisfaction (edited)

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:13 AM

I am not sure how physics would work but I totally support special tiles, pick ups and animations

sateesfaction

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:13 AM

what if the tee on fire could hit other tees and make the other tees go on fire

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:13 AM

the groans and moans of a tee going up in flames... mmm

@Stiopa that would probably get us age restricted on steam ~~not really~~

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:14 AM

I've put most of my thoughts about the liquids in the "TL:DR" post

which coincidentally seems to be the last one on the issue atm

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:14 AM

tbh i didn't read your comment

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:14 AM

hence I mentioned "TL:DR" part :D

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:14 AM

i will now, since i'm eating

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:14 AM

it is too long to read properly

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:14 AM

@Stiopa don't worry that one won't be the last comment on the issue

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:15 AM

and so I hope

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:15 AM

i made particles satisfying on my tw edit

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:15 AM

I'll make sure of it if necessary

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Galli 18-Sep-20 12:15 AM

i should make the explosion satisfying

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:15 AM

@Stiopa btw. really like ur comment on the issue

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:16 AM

Thanks. It's the result of an hour (if not more) of pure teeworlds ponder

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TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:18 AM

I remember there was a client with gore

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:19 AM

woah

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:20 AM

I just wish we had more code wizards around who could make water a thing by tomorrow

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:20 AM

"tomorrow" might be asking too much even with some code wizards

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:21 AM

it doesn't need full blown liquid simulation, just simple water that makes you slowly sink or float and a little splash particle effect

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:21 AM

jeez i need to tune down the explosion

the smoke flys everywhere

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:21 AM

I'm exaggerating .. ^^

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:22 AM

Well it depends on what will water really be

A stationary tile or (entity? Idk) object that flows

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:23 AM

if it's just a tile than it shouldn't be that hard to realize tho

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:23 AM

it can just be tiles, if someone wants to make a floating square of water then let him

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:24 AM

but if it's a fluid simulation that will be a coding challange for sure

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:24 AM

that doesn't fit teeworlds imo

also it would be weird with differently shaped mapres

with a tile you can always overlap it behind tiles or something

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:24 AM

It's just that the code wizards should know what to do unless they take most of design freedoms

(Or so I feel, in a modding team I work in we have a split between scripters & designers, the product of design is usually described in depth )

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:26 AM

personally I'm not a fan of tiled water seems to static and complex to get right animation wise .. not like if it's a simulation that just goes by the math behind it (edited)

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:27 AM

it wouldn't be hard to animate, it will always be flat

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:28 AM

Well starting with coding a tiled water might end up having to be recoded if it ends up a real liquid in the end

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:28 AM

it would actually be nice to have the freedom to design it however you want in the editor, but that might be for more advanced mappers

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:29 AM

For water tiles I suggest having the tiles split off from "Game" so that u can put weapons underwater or water inside of collisio n for animation

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:29 AM

if it's a hard-coded fluid then we at least need the ability to give it a custom color

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:29 AM

That's been mentioned in the issue I think

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:29 AM

well I think all that should be editable for watter is the color of watar and the stroke and the transparancy both sould be easy to implement

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:30 AM

I know I suggested being able to define 4 different liquids with custom parameters in map editor

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:31 AM

the surface could just always be x% brighter than the fill

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:31 AM

New Mechanic, New Maps, New Way of storing Tuning? I think that for the purpose of implementing water, new maps ought to be created for the purpose of showcasing the mechanics. I'd be rather careful about modifying the existing ones. Perhaps a few maps with little ponds and a single map where water is more widespread? Furthermore, I think that this would be a great opportunity to pave a way to mapside tuning system. Having each map be allowed to have 4 types of liquids, each with its own tuning options. The mapside tuning options could also include gravity tunes and similar.

Decided to copy it over here, relevant enough imo

My perspective

Liquids could have a list of textures to pick from

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:32 AM

I think that for the purpose of implementing water, new maps ought to be created for the purpose of showcasing the mechanics. the whole point of adding water is imo to be able to make exciting new environments and maps

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:32 AM

With definable colors

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:32 AM

btw. @Stiopa I never planed to give old maps water ponds or lakes all that would be for new maps to be explored

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:33 AM

Well I made that comment as changing old maps would create backlash and I wanted to ensure in my comment that I am against that

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:33 AM

@Ravie just imagine water on swamp theme like we have it in the mockup

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:34 AM

that's what I have in my mind the whole time, but there are sooo many other things you can do with it

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:34 AM

okay it is really hard to express what I've been doing in IRC. i feel stupid

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:34 AM

@Ravie yea of course

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:35 AM

waterfalls would be dope as well, but let's not get too greedy

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:35 AM

The different tuning options liquids would have could also make fun custom maps

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:35 AM

haha indeed

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:35 AM

i don't think waterfall would have any affect on gameplay

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:35 AM

Imagine a map where a liquid has negative deceleration

Thus it would grant momentum

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:35 AM

and if we have water already, waterfall can just be some animation with a pit of water wouldn't it

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:35 AM

@TsFreddie if it was a fluid simulation it should

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:36 AM

A booster executed through a liquid

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:36 AM

i don't think we should do fluid sim

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:36 AM

yeah @TsFreddie is kinda right but it would still be nice to have a splash every time you pass through a waterfall

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:36 AM

that's too much to handle syncing fluid states between server and clients

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:36 AM

water falls down so by entering the waterfall stream tee should get pushed down with it

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:36 AM

I am not convinced by flowing water yet (mostly cause it sounds like a pain to code without bugs)

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:37 AM

have a splash every time you pass through a waterfall

that's pretty trivial if we can get water in, I +1

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:37 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1jZnwTfWOE

LTDTech54

Water2D - 2D Interactable Fluid Water Particles in Unity Game Devel...

Introduction: Water2D is a Better Way to Render 2D Interactable Fluid Water Particle in Unity. ---------- Sources: + Water2D: https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/particles-effects/water-2d-136297 + Water2D Pro: https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/particles-effe...

imagine it like in this video

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:37 AM

that's exactly what i don't want it to be lol

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:38 AM

Reminds me of Worms Revol

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:38 AM

it's enough to have a lake with a flat surface

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:38 AM

Revolution

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:38 AM

it is pretty hard to do fluid sim right with server and client. but if it is visual only then it is not worth it to do full on sim as well.

consider we can barely do prediction right with current codes

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:39 AM

Water tiles for 0.8, Water sim for 0.9? :p

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:39 AM

could be a way to handle it ya

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:40 AM

besides i don't want to play with ppl who just found out how to spill the water to the entire map to make it slippery or something. (edited)

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:40 AM

Water tiles should come first

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:40 AM

with water simulation you would need a source and exit for the water and that adds a whole lot of new mapping headache

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

@TsFreddie for that we first need slippery tiles too ^^ (edited)

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

maybe algodoo type water simulation

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

oh right

why don't we have slippery tiles

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

1) Easier to code 2) Less Buggy 3) Can be tested in gameplay before it is actually approved

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p5A9SGKH44&ab_channel=gmonkeyboy10

gmonkeyboy10

Water timelapes

made in Algodoo, recorded at 2fps, 200hertz. Played back at 200fps (reduced to 30) Song #1: Guitar Shop - Guitar Shop - Jeff Beck #2: The art of war - Team Fortress 2 - Valve studio orchestra The locomotive engine used in the video is available here: http://cid-026453c072...

teeworlds water should be like this

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

Slippery t i les?

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

there are literately winter themed maps

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

I like the idea of slippery (ice) tiles as well

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

could use one or two ice platform

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:41 AM

Don't make ctf2 slippery! Neva!

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:42 AM

for example in winter maps you would slide on exposed ice but not on snow

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:42 AM

(ofc not the entire map, that's stupid

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:42 AM

No part! Or else ctf2_old!

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:42 AM

well 0.8 will ssplit winter and ice in two seperate themes anyway so we might well just do it

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:42 AM

redesign old winter maps to not have exposed ice, ez

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:42 AM

sure we can make new map

i doubt we would touch old map just to be different anyway

is today the most active this discord ever been?

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:43 AM

maybe

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:43 AM

imagine teeworlds water was like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p5A9SGKH44&ab_channel=gmonkeyboy10

gmonkeyboy10

Water timelapes

made in Algodoo, recorded at 2fps, 200hertz. Played back at 200fps (reduced to 30) Song #1: Guitar Shop - Guitar Shop - Jeff Beck #2: The art of war - Team Fortress 2 - Valve studio orchestra The locomotive engine used in the video is available here: http://cid-026453c072...

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:44 AM

I would want to have the liquid a bit smoother tho

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:44 AM

~~i don't like that~~

i can support splashes

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:44 AM

too much detail in the splashing

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:45 AM

it would be too complex to have water be able to exit the pond and get into random areas, also some maps would need draining systems just to avoid this and it's a mess

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:46 AM

^

client-side visual effect is pretty good

which is all you need to "feel" refreshing tbh

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:47 AM

well I would kinda like the idea of water being able to flow with gravity and accumulate if u have an entety that keeps spawning water u would need a draining system the general idea I like tho

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:47 AM

you can just make the surface wobble when you enter/leave water and a particle effect similar to respawn + a splashy sound

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:47 AM

im gonna go now bye

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:48 AM

now we have the water splash gang and fluid sim gang

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:48 AM

in terms of splashing particle effects I find this sim kinda nails it

https://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/tutorials/make-a-splash-with-dynamic-2d-water-effects--gamedev-236

Make a Splash With Dynamic 2D Water Effects

Sploosh! In this tutorial, I'll show you how you can use simple math, physics, and particle effects to simulate great looking 2D water waves and droplets. Note: Although this tutorial is written...

simple and looks good (edited)

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:48 AM

also i would imagine it is pretty hard to make water splashes match the artstyle

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:49 AM

as said I find that sim I linke would work well matching the art style

unlike the other postet earlier

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:49 AM

because for now, all art style are only determined by tiles. if you code dynamic water in, it'd be hard to customize the look

like fully

but we could at least have one that matches vanilla tilesets

with thicker water line and cartoonish particles

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:50 AM

that's almost perfect

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:51 AM

i actually don't like how the water bond together when they are in the air

make it looks like they were stuck in between two glass panes

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:52 AM

yeah that's the only thing I don't like, how it merges back together

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:52 AM

i think particles should have distinct outlines to have more depth (edited)

we can simulate the water line like that

and use traditional particles for the actual splashes

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:53 AM

^ I agree with this man

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:54 AM

but again, matching styles might be hard.

or just draw the splashes better i guess

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:54 AM

not at all, just pick a nice color and put a line on the water surface

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:54 AM

well i mean if we have software based water and image based splashes

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:54 AM

and then all you need is a nice, well designed particle image

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:55 AM

maybe

but the render might not like that

since images are scaled and can be interpolated

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:55 AM

it works just fine with the particle effects already in the game

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:55 AM

the water might look more crisp than the particles

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:56 AM

it all happens too quickly to really notice

but some anti-aliasing on the water would be welcome

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:56 AM

probably

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:56 AM

well it would be cool to have ripple effects on the water surface if a body enters depending on velocity with which it enters

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:56 AM

maybe finally someone would actually dial up the anti-aliasing for once

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:56 AM

fluid sim ftw

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:56 AM

@Zatline that and satisfying sinking physics

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:57 AM

yes !!

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:57 AM

and splash effects ftw too

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:57 AM

the AA option was always there, never could tell any difference

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:57 AM

both ftw

both at once

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:57 AM

then we're left with the question: do tees sink or float?

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:57 AM

they sink with a tendency of floating up

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:57 AM

thats the job forserver config

server configuration can say if tees can sink or float

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:58 AM

they can't sink and float at the sametime tho....

Ravie 18-Sep-20 12:58 AM

logically they should float like the little balls they are, but gameplay wise it would be better to sink

Zatline 18-Sep-20 12:58 AM

so say they enter the water with high veelocity they will sink first untill the water cancelled out all the velocity then they start to float up

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:58 AM

i made a tee in algodoo

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:58 AM

i'd imagine them float

wait

hold on

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:58 AM

i think i should put a video now

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:58 AM

hear me out

tees have really slow acceleration in the air right?

what if we swap it in the water, make them go faster in the air and slower on the ground

Galli 18-Sep-20 12:59 AM

too advanced?

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TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:59 AM

by in the air of course i mean "swimming"

so they sink to the bottom, but you can jump to gain speed and slowly sinks

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:00 AM

@Ravie - tees will tend to float up - tees can hold breath for a certain amount of time (HUD would indicate that with 10 bubbles) - when breath is out tees will lose health and drown - as breath goes out tees also lose the tendency of floating upwards !

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:00 AM

that might be a bit complicated, I like the idea of breath tho

might cut it down to just 5 bubbles above your tee

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:01 AM

imagine underwater maze

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:01 AM

doesn't really matter ho many bubbles there are

what matters more is how much time each bubble takes (edited)

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:02 AM

i think we still should have a pretty simple one. server mods can do all kinds of stuff if we have water already

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:02 AM

imagine if there was fluid simulation like this

let me record

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:02 AM

1 second per bubble, you can swim for 5 seconds and then lose 1hp/s (edited)

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:02 AM

so practically how vanilla do it doesn't matter that much

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:02 AM

I imagined like 2 secs each bubble and 10 of them would give u 20 secs

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:03 AM

i'd like a simple one that just enhance the experience a little bit without changing the whole meta

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:03 AM

teeworlds is such a fast paced game, anything more and you will almost never be in water long enough to start losing hp

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:03 AM

imagine if water could leak

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Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:03 AM

haha that be awesome

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:03 AM

it looks kinda advanced tho

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:04 AM

I imagine in a gameplay scenario you would fall into the water by accident and then try to get back out as quickly as possible because in water you move slowly and become an easy target

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:04 AM

that might look weird in a tile based game

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:05 AM

@Ravie "become an easy target" well the porpuse of water would be to protect u from missles and guns so not really as all projectiles entering the water are rendered useless (edited)

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:05 AM

that's a bit op

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:06 AM

no becouse u get slow and if u don't watch ur breath u die

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:06 AM

imo bullets and everything should just work in water, but also be slowed down

maybe grenades take only half hp of what they normally would

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:06 AM

big NO on that ^^

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:06 AM

lol

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Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:06 AM

and if grenades don't explode, what will you do with their animation?

bullets of course simply work underwater, in the real world as well

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:07 AM

no they actually don't

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:07 AM

since grenades are like physics they should sink and when they hit they still explode

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:07 AM

you may not be able to fire underwater, but bullets entering water still go at a deadly speed

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:08 AM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2740

Dynamic liquid Simulation, make Water a thing · Issue #2740 · teewo...

All that Teeworlds had seen over the years in terms of water visualization was either static tileable water or quads going in circles or from left to right. For today's day n age not very s...

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:08 AM

bullets underwater do no harm at all the moment they leave the barrel they slow down dramaticly

like they do a little if u right in front of the barrel but on medium range they will have lost all their momentum

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:09 AM

grenades should do this but in stead of staying in the jar it should explode

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Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:09 AM

this is all too complicated imo, weapons should simply work but do half damage

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:10 AM

nahh Ravie

either do phisics right or don't do em at all

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:11 AM

imagine a full game in water

a pool party map

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:11 AM

I think it's much more in the spirit of teeworlds to have a predictable behavior for those things

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:12 AM

predictable behaviour for guns in water should be "they are useless" ^^ (edited)

as water protects u

and that void of guns could be filled with a gun that works underwater

a harpoon, spear gun

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:14 AM

naah no water weapon

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:14 AM

i went too far

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Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:14 AM

you can make the gun just refuse to work underwater, like it's out of ammo

same for all other weapons except hammer actually

so underwater = only hook and nerfed hammer

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:15 AM

and underwater spawns the speargun if u take the dive and maybe u find diving gear

or maybe no hook even or reduced in range

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:16 AM

slowed hook but with the same lifetime

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:16 AM

could work ya

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:16 AM

oh god

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Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:17 AM

u broke the sim gg !

(edited)

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:17 AM

i can break it even more

ez as this

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2

i imported a skin into algodoo

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Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:26 AM

lol that's actually cool how it applies collision on the pixels

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:28 AM

yeah

im working on more tees

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:30 AM

imagine tw would handle collision like that xD

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:30 AM

lol yeah

teeworlds just has a full on physics engine

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:33 AM

played some fng

now i wonder why i haven't go to bed yet

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:35 AM

i love that shirt

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:35 AM

hot shirt damn

tw needs some merch

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:36 AM

i agree

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:36 AM

i'm actually selling unofficial merch in china. ~~don't ban plz~~ (edited)

this is one of the design i've made

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:37 AM

~~don't ban plz~~

@TsFreddie

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:37 AM

this tw client hits different

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TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:37 AM

i mean i still made the art myself

it is probably not illegal

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:37 AM

no it's not

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:37 AM

not in china

xD

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:38 AM

haha

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:38 AM

well yes even if I ripped some arts

but i did made these

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:38 AM

it's cool

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:38 AM

:EeveeShy:

@TsFreddie http://u.cubeupload.com/memers_mc_beamers/yikes.png

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:39 AM

but at the current stage considering the games popularity merchendise should not be a priority now

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:39 AM

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:39 AM

OOOO

a popular youtuber should play

this game

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:40 AM

i made all 16 of them (edited)

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:40 AM

the only downside is

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:40 AM

(then 0.7 came and ruined the default 16)

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:40 AM

lol

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:40 AM

oof

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:40 AM

they're still the og's

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:40 AM

imagine saddo with sad eyes

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:40 AM

yes but then I would want this popular YouTuber playing the game not in it's current form but later at 0.8 when there is new content

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:41 AM

true

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:41 AM

ok

we need markiplier to play it

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:42 AM

or pewdiepie I bet he'd even like the game lol

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:42 AM

if dantdm played it it would not be good because his fanbase is young

yeah

after he saved minecraft

after all

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:42 AM

i like organic player base more (edited)

a huge flux like that would just overload the community and the servers and everyone will soon realize it is not stable and leave

happened once in china (edited)

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:43 AM

well ya we should probably focus on attracting player organically cuz then we know we are on the right track

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:44 AM

it's probably just the lack of exposure/advertising, you kinda need to find this obscure game and then not ragequit it for long enough to learn to play it (edited)

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:45 AM

how would we advertise

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:45 AM

that why the ppl who stayed are proper organic

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:45 AM

@Ravie very true

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:45 AM

spam all streamers with emails, maybe one or two plays it for a few minutes in front of 10k people :D

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:45 AM

if we just did adverts like on pages it would be blocked by adblockers and noone clicks advertisements anyway

yeah

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:45 AM

i think it is too late for me to type english

i need to go to bed now

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:46 AM

saddo is sad

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:46 AM

@Ravie but that is what I mean we should do a campaign on 0.8 then not on 0.7

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:46 AM

aw. why do you want him sad

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:46 AM

his name is saddo

so he is sad

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:46 AM

^

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:46 AM

yeah of course, currently tw has probably less content than ever

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:46 AM

sad is his default mood

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:47 AM

yea 0.5 had more content than 0.7 ever had (edited)

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:47 AM

maybe the team ran out of ideas

hmmmmm

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:47 AM

since there aren't many cool skins and such for 0.7, all mappers are on 0.6 and vanilla is in a sad state

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:47 AM

who played 0.1 ~ 0.4

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:47 AM

BATTLE ROYALE MODE?

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:47 AM

i don't even know what tw is like before 0.5

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:47 AM

nah it's just all the mods are gone or died don't know

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:47 AM

mods dont have ideas

so should there be a battle royale mode?

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:48 AM

probably both, nobody bothers porting unpopular mods

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:48 AM

i would like to get back to modding

once i'm done pushing vanilla to include proper chinese / japanese / korean supports

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:48 AM

well mods can't really do much with what is possible u can't even add mod specific graphics with not making the mod standalone (edited)

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:48 AM

maybe if teeworlds had a battle royale mode maybe it would be super popular

idk

i like ctf tho

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:49 AM

it's just the same handful of people all playing ctf5 and sometimes there's 3-5 noobies who rq after one round

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:50 AM

ctf is a great mode imo but it needs some refrashment .. new maps, improved HUD, maybe animated flags even

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:50 AM

imagine teeworlds having voice chat

theres like one trash talker trash talking everyone

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:50 AM

I don't think animated flags or hud would really bring people to ctf, but new maps with new features and gfx maybe

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:50 AM

theres the guy with the bad mic screaming

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:50 AM

well my sad saddo looks like addict

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:51 AM

and the guys with the normal mics

trying to play the game

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:51 AM

or people will just take the new gfx and butcher it in their amateurish ddrace maps

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:51 AM

well a new feel would certainly help and u can change up the feeling with small details like refined HUD and flags too just saying

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:51 AM

teeworlds with improved animation seems nicec

maybe tees doing animated emotes

like a dance or something

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:52 AM

teeworlds with mic

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:52 AM

yeah but imo frame-by-frame animated flag looks odd in this game

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:52 AM

imagine a tee doing a default dance

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:52 AM

wouldn't that just be all german

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:52 AM

teeworlds is very smooth and frame by frame animation just looks kinda clunky

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:52 AM

30 fps frame by frame

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:52 AM

well just bond the rate of images to the travel velocity of the tee

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:53 AM

30 fps is too low for teeworlds

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:53 AM

60?

Ravie 18-Sep-20 01:53 AM

and with the new 100000hz monitors even 60fps animation wouldn't be enough

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:53 AM

vector animation would be idea

ideal

ok i really need to sleep

good night

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:53 AM

100?

500?

100000000000000000000?

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:54 AM

100?

@Galli then it won't be frame synced with 60hz monitor

so just don't do sprite animation in general

good night *2

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:54 AM

imagine a tee doing a default dance

i have flash

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:58 AM

I also strongly think tw should explore outside of the regular vanilla concept

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:58 AM

im animating a tee in flash cs6

Zatline 18-Sep-20 01:58 AM

like making Nodes an official game type if anyone remembers that

Galli 18-Sep-20 01:59 AM

its gonna look so bad

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 01:59 AM

Zatline 18-Sep-20 02:00 AM

or a nice Zombie survival mode just like CoD had it in their official pool too

Ravie 18-Sep-20 02:02 AM

I think that's what mods are for, but I wouldn't mind some new official gamemodes if they are executed well and just as minimalistic as base teeworlds

Zatline 18-Sep-20 02:03 AM

I really liked the old zomb mode from 0.5 it was perfect 4 types of zombies and done

the newer one is painfull to play

so many zombie types and they feel so op at times

Ravie 18-Sep-20 02:04 AM

more like one type of zombies

just zombies ^^

Zatline 18-Sep-20 02:04 AM

nah there should be slight differences imo

Ravie 18-Sep-20 02:04 AM

I don't like anything class-like in tw

Zatline 18-Sep-20 02:05 AM

but no zomb should be super op and hook u the moment he sees u or whatever

old zomb had normal zombies some bigger zombies and than sometimes a tank zombie would spawn that toke more damage than all the other zombs

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 02:07 AM

if teeworlds adds more gametypes, they has to be new and designed with reason. like lms and lts which are made to introduce the dead states for tees.

Ravie 18-Sep-20 02:08 AM

good morning @TsFreddie

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 02:08 AM

which can be used for mods like zcatch although idk if any mod is really using it

Zatline 18-Sep-20 02:08 AM

oh he woke up welocme backj

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 02:09 AM

just lied down

besides, teeworlds doesnt default you to standard gametype anymore, there are not any good reason to reimplement existing mods. we probably shouldnt just merge some random mods into the codebase.

ok typing on phone is much harder

bots decor for ai controlled tees are added tho, so it would be good to add custom decors for things like zombies

but thats covered under the downloadable contents i suppose

Zatline 18-Sep-20 02:15 AM

what I liked about the old zombie mode was that it was more strategic managing ur weapon usage making good use of every shot managing to resupply during waves and sometimes if waves overcut each other things get out of hand quick but zombies didn't hook trap you they were simple like zombies in the walking dead they only inflict damage when u got to close / get overrun by a horde .. once the zombies infiltrated the weapon resuply spot it got tricky

but the new zombie mode is awefull cuz u get hook traped and die (edited)

1stDecadeTW 18-Sep-20 02:33 AM

I propose that the tee suit and swimming style be identical to a goldfish , that would be fun

Zatline 18-Sep-20 02:40 AM

I think that would suit an astronaut suit more tbh ^^

1stDecadeTW 18-Sep-20 02:42 AM

Nodes + Among us, a mixed mod in teeworlds, what do you think?

Zatline 18-Sep-20 03:25 AM

Amoung Us lmao

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 06:05 AM

Make tw a social deception game ;D

Tees should float imo

I envision a tee swimming being just the tee wiggling their feet back and forth

Current teeworlds gets a bit of newbs that do not remain, really

Game needs a tutorial...

Someone make an official tileset for tutorial

The low amount of players does not help either as people may see the game as dead

And the average player skill is going up causing the noobs (especially on CTF) to feel overwhelmed

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 06:35 AM

Current prorities should be imo: - Functioning Tutorial - Proper Announcements + maybe teeworlds client being able to fetch latest official maps - A new mechanic - liquids, mythical slopes or at least a new weapon/powerup. You name it, at least one novelty (edited)

- new tilesets and thus maps

Then we could try to contact content creators

For 0.8 ofc

0.7.6 needs work too

Autumn is almost here!

Zatline 18-Sep-20 06:47 AM

sounds like a good plan

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 06:48 AM

Now it only needs execution

Code wizards, mappers, artists, playtesters

Zatline 18-Sep-20 06:48 AM

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 06:50 AM

Exactly.

Lol

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 06:58 AM

Also I believe it would be worthwhile to conduct a study on new players' opinions

Prompt 20 people to play it and ask after a week how it went

Did they continue playing after 1 day? (edited)

Did they see it as a dead game?

Couldn't they grasp the pro players' skill and rq?

Did they enjoy the game? (edited)

Etc

Prompt a few fresh players and conduct a study with a questionnaire

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 07:36 AM

It is imperative all kinds of data are gauged

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 11:29 AM

@Zatline

>

I really liked the old zomb mode from 0.5 it was perfect 4 types of zombies and done the newer one is painfull to play

you can report any balance issues on my server, we're constantly seeking a way to balance the game for newcomers vs oldies and humans vs zombies to make the game interesing, challenging but not too frustrating to everyone

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 11:48 AM

I like that MTGA initiative.

But we don't have a plan how to make it great.

I see the main problem RN that too few people are involved into interesting activities for TW. Teeworlds Europe make tournaments on vanilla CTF/DM, but it seems that's all.

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 12:07 PM

When I was working in a game company there were special people who made events. And they were more in numbers than devs.

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:07 PM

i never had a job

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 12:08 PM

And it worked, people come to get new experience and get entertained. It's hard to entertain people with code.

You're lucky

or we are luck that you don't have it but have time for this project

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:08 PM

because i've given up hope

at least this is something to do rather than sit around waiting for death

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 12:09 PM

it's hard to get your first programming job, that's true

after that you will have experience in both your resume and in passing interviews

it will be like 10-100x easier

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:11 PM

tbh i kinda just don't want to go back to china and work 12hour shifts

Learath2 18-Sep-20 12:12 PM

Then it's in your best interest to find a job while close to the EU

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:12 PM

but i have no idea how does a foreigner do that

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:12 PM

@Pure_luck he meant the ZOMB gamemode

Not yours :p

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 12:13 PM

Anyway, he said a keyword. So he won an invite in PM to my server

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:14 PM

This is not how invites should be sent :D

jxsl13 18-Sep-20 12:15 PM

you download Xing, LinkedIn, indeed, Stepstone from your app store and look for a job there that helps with relocation, does have an english speaking working environment. For example, I have seen job offers with such environments in Düsseldorf, Germany. @TsFreddie

Learath2 18-Sep-20 12:16 PM

If you are still registered at a uni, they sometimes offer career services. Companies also come along to do recruitment sometimes

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 12:22 PM

Don't tell me about relocation please

I should be in Europe for 6 months already if not that coronavirus thing.

@Stiopa sure, propose a better way.

I invite anybody who is talking about infection or infClass mod. Tbh that is just about 20 people total to this moment.

And 10 were grateful for invites

10 just ignored w/o complaining. So it seems to be fine

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:33 PM

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 12:45 PM

Well, if it works it works

Buy ads on Google ;D

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 12:49 PM

Galli 18-Sep-20 03:24 PM

imagine a 3d teeworlds

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 03:24 PM

there was one

besides, minus the hook it is just quake

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 03:54 PM

isometric would be cool to try, though a pain to navigate. Because 2.5d games don't draw ceiling

so a hook would be useless there

also a TW in VR would make even stronges person to vomit after 1 minute of playing

I've tried games with huge jumps. It was both exciting and horrible experience

I think I might try anti-nausea pills and try them other day

human wetware have prediction bugs too

Harald 18-Sep-20 04:21 PM

Joined the server.

SplInTaCs 18-Sep-20 05:41 PM

hey guys i want to play Teeworlds and for some reason DDnet Client isnt working i seached for others a bit but they seem... odd. now i ask you guys for help if you know a good TW client which is also SAFE

thanks in advance

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 05:42 PM

you may be better off asking on the DDNet discord if you haven't already

SplInTaCs 18-Sep-20 05:42 PM

there is a ddnet discord?

i didnt know lel

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 05:42 PM

I believe so yeah, look on their forums

this server is more general and thus less focused on the 0.6 DDNet client that works on older tw version (edited)

SplInTaCs 18-Sep-20 05:43 PM

oh i see

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 05:43 PM

I play 0.7 and 0.7 only

SplInTaCs 18-Sep-20 05:43 PM

thanks ill ask there... ill be back if they cant help

thanks lots!

Souly 18-Sep-20 05:56 PM

0.7 best

Dune 18-Sep-20 06:00 PM

@SplInTaCs ddnet.tw/discord

don't think ddnet had client-side safety problems(?)

SplInTaCs 18-Sep-20 06:01 PM

no they dont

i checked my avira isnt the problem

its not detecting it as bad

i have no clue why its not working

the pc is new Af

or way too good too be 'struggling' with this

Dune 18-Sep-20 06:02 PM

strugglign with what?

SplInTaCs 18-Sep-20 06:02 PM

well i mean the facvt that its not starting

i click the game

start

i get into the loading screen

Dune 18-Sep-20 06:02 PM

probably completely unrelated with your computer's performance

SplInTaCs 18-Sep-20 06:02 PM

and then as its finished it closes completly

Dune 18-Sep-20 06:03 PM

so it crashes

that's a ddnet-specific problem better ask them over there

SplInTaCs 18-Sep-20 06:03 PM

i guess

yeah ill check it

Pak 18-Sep-20 06:03 PM

Joined the server.

SplInTaCs 18-Sep-20 06:03 PM

thanks thou

Pak 18-Sep-20 06:05 PM

Hey guys, first time playing this game. Playing kobra and Stuck at this place

Any tips?

do i need to change the controllers somehow to be able to shoot faster or something?

I always touch the gray area when try to get over

Learath2 18-Sep-20 06:07 PM

@Pak you might have better luck over in the ddnet discord

Pak 18-Sep-20 06:07 PM

Can i get a invite? xD

Thanks for the info

Dune 18-Sep-20 06:07 PM

literally 5min ago

Learath2 18-Sep-20 06:07 PM

You'll have a better time if you hook a little backwards

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 06:07 PM

-276s left

ono

Learath2 18-Sep-20 06:08 PM

Yeah a bug I'm having trouble tracking down...

Votes that don't end

Vote stuff is just so hard to debug alone

Dune 18-Sep-20 06:09 PM

yeah it's very annoying

Iman 18-Sep-20 06:09 PM

votes wich don't end gives more meaning to the "no" option

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 06:17 PM

"f4 - stop it, get some help"

Learath2 18-Sep-20 06:18 PM

Q: If we send 10 serverinfo requests, there is no way to know which of the 10 responses refer to which request, right?

a gerdoe 18-Sep-20 06:26 PM

does it depend to the protocol, or not?

Dune 18-Sep-20 06:27 PM

huuh

we have the IP of the packets right?

a gerdoe 18-Sep-20 06:27 PM

of course

so, we can learn which request refers to which response

Dune 18-Sep-20 06:28 PM

I meant for Learath

a gerdoe 18-Sep-20 06:29 PM

every packet has sender's ip

we can only compare ips of requests ig... not sure about it

Learath2 18-Sep-20 06:32 PM

dst ip + src ip + dst port + src port is not enough to make a connection between request and response though

since udp enforces no order I don't think there is any way

bano 18-Sep-20 06:34 PM

Joined the server.

heinrich5991 18-Sep-20 08:15 PM

@Learath2 you can use the token

Learath2 18-Sep-20 08:47 PM

No tokens in 06

heinrich5991 18-Sep-20 08:48 PM

in the data part, there is, I think @Learath2

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 09:09 PM

what problem are you solving? are those packet are for the same server?

why do you care of order then? (edited)

if not, then take src IP address from IP packet and that's it

Assa 18-Sep-20 09:14 PM

I think you should add an automatic vote stop option on the client side, the server shouldn't be able to bug the client, tho the opposite is ofc more important

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 09:16 PM

yea, the client should clearly be able to tell when the timer went negative. (edited)

well unless some mods need negative timer but i doubt it. (edited)

Learath2 18-Sep-20 09:17 PM

@TsFreddie I wanted my wireshark dissector to identify requests and responses

TsFreddie 18-Sep-20 09:18 PM

i wasn't the one asking

Learath2 18-Sep-20 09:18 PM

Okay I might have had a little too much to drink

@Pure_luck ^^

Assa 18-Sep-20 09:37 PM

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 09:40 PM

UDP is a stateless protocol, you know it. it doesn't have sequence id, nothing. If your upper level protocol don't have identificators to track request and response then nothing you can do there.

Stiopa 18-Sep-20 09:40 PM

reaching Ballmer's peak?

1

Assa 18-Sep-20 10:22 PM

@Pure_luck even when UDP doesn't have a sequence id, you can still transmit one in the dataload, which teeworlds actually does# (edited)

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 10:27 PM

Yes, that's what I've meant by saying

If your upper level protocol

dataload is an app level proto isn't it?

Assa 18-Sep-20 10:30 PM

i was talking about the udp dataload/content, which can be anything

but yeah it's app level proto

totoch 18-Sep-20 10:33 PM

Joined the server.

Jupstar ✪ 18-Sep-20 11:03 PM

this jungle night theme looks really awesome, props to the mapper

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 11:26 PM

Any advices on how to promote my mod? ✅ added more features than infCroya and infClass had ✅ make my own discord server and invite ~50 players there ✅ involve them into game designing ✅ make a discord to game bot ✅ ported game to ddnet to make it available to both 0.6 and 0.7 clients ✅ invested like 3-4 months of my free time, leaned C++ in the process ❓ anything else I've missed? Result: ~150 unique visits per a week, 18 top online count once a week, server still mostly empty. (edited)

Assa 18-Sep-20 11:33 PM

post in the mod section on teeworlds.com

on the post make a nice intro, nice graphics, a game introduction with gameplay, maybe a youtube link but at least some screenshots

what was your mod again?

Pure_luck 18-Sep-20 11:45 PM

infNext: tiny.cc/infnext

an infClass variant

with water, doors, battle royale circles and many other novelties

Thanks I will try to do that tomorrow. Let's see if that will help.

heinrich5991 19-Sep-20 12:09 AM

@Pure_luck I don't know what the secret sauce is, there

Assa 19-Sep-20 01:03 AM

medic got downgraded to infinity :C

jxsl13 19-Sep-20 02:17 AM

~150 unique visits per a week D:

try making it beginner friendly, and easy to grasp, never played, cannot give advise ._.

NyonX 19-Sep-20 02:27 AM

Joined the server.

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 09:27 AM

It already has help, hints and so on. The mod itself is complex and cannot be made simpler. A text window UI element that I can place anywhere where I want with customizable background opacity and text size would be nice. Currently I give help with MOTD because it's multi-line and big and readable enough (yellow chat messages without a background are not). But it is placed at the centre so I cannot use it for tips and on boarding cause it prevents player from doing anything in game as its in foreground. Broadcasts I use as short hints but they don't have background, too big and 1-2 lines long. (edited)

So they're not suitable for explaining and commenting what's going on in game in parallel too, just stating something.

Even simplest game provide on boarding but I don't have proper UI elements to do that.

https://medium.com/@guilhermeteod/onboarding-concept-the-difference-between-apps-and-games-user-behavior-c053f645c67e

Onboarding concept: The difference between apps and games experienc...

The onboarding flow is arguably the most important part of the mobile application for the first time experience.

Also interactive menus would be nice

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 09:43 AM

I have made a class selector with OnMouseWheel and motd but it's far from perfect

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 10:10 AM

I have thought about making a map level to learn people play it, but nobody will come to an empty server

Boarding process examples

Right now infClass in general is frustrating for newcomer for the first 1 to 2 weeks. And I don't have tools to make learning process more pleasant. People (except most hardcore players) mostly just feel like they're fallen into a pit with wild animals with so much things going on. (edited)

"I don't get an idea what's going on, is that supposed to be fun?" is the most common feedback from about-to-quit newcomer if they bother to write any.

Helping people in chat doesn't help because 1. It's slow 2. I don't know what's going on 3. people cannot explain properly what's going on near them

But all this doesn't mean that mod is not fun, it just have a steep learning curve. I would like to have tools to make it less steep for newcomers.

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 10:39 AM

I don't need anything that looks nice. Simple black opaque boxes will be ok.

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 03:31 PM

I've added an issue on it https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2746

Custom text window(s) for interactive help for mods · Issue #2746 ·...

Problem: complex mods like infClass have a steep learning curve and a new player have a hard time to get game mechanics and even the basics. Currently most of players leave because they don&#39...

Arseniy Zarche 19-Sep-20 03:32 PM

i hope you willn't ban me https://youtu.be/pZ0qF_yKgWw

Arseniy Zarche

Субботник! (only Teeworlds)

Привет, друг. Спасибо, что зашёл на мой поток! Сегодня в 16:00 будет стрим по нашей любимой игре. Ничего невероятного тут не будет, просто будем наслаждаться хорошей картинкой :) Приятного просмотра! -------- Ссылки -------- Discord сервер - discord.gg/n6Cafwn Я в VK - vk.co...

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 03:46 PM

Russian: я бы посоветовал зайти на мой сервер, но что-то в последнее время неважно с игроками, один стример неплохо провел время в infNext

хотя прямо сейчас есть немного игроков

@a gerdoe do you want to invite him?

a gerdoe 19-Sep-20 04:04 PM

he said "soon"

LikableTester82 19-Sep-20 06:12 PM

Joined the server.

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 06:34 PM

@Pure_luck you can create text as quads with color(alpha) envelopes (synchronized) and fake the server time to get it displayed (edited)

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 06:47 PM

@Jupstar ✪ thanks, that's really interesting.

Arkanum 19-Sep-20 06:54 PM

Joined the server.

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 07:36 PM

@Jupstar ✪ I know it was a separate client mod but it seems this could be done with a serverside mod with syncronised envelopes too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMoYsr92II8

Prudrugtiq

New Interactive map mod by QshaR [Teeworlds/Gores]

QshaR made a new modification of ddrace! He finally made the moving freeze and collision we all waited for! This is the first preview demo by QshaR! More informations and discussion on the forum: http://qshar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=451 Player: QshaR Server: QshaRs p...

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 07:36 PM

yes its implemented on kog

without client mod

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 07:37 PM

That's SO awesome

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 07:37 PM

but it has no prediction so set sv_high_bandwidth to 1

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 07:38 PM

otherwise clientside character will try to fall down trough the platform? (edited)

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 07:38 PM

yes it will lag, its probs also ping dependent

it wont ever look as good as, when the client knows about it

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 07:38 PM

Could be mitigated to some degree with gravity 0 faketune (edited)

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 07:39 PM

just as when connecting to ddnet with vanilla client and hook into hookthrough etc

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 07:39 PM

Ofc, I know.

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 07:39 PM

ok

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 07:39 PM

Yeah, I have a biprotocol mod now. I can see how ddnet and 0.7 behave with tunezones for example.

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 07:39 PM

well on Kog there is a map called Q-Move, under the mods and fun section if u want to try

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 07:40 PM

So to try I need to find a KOG server with a map Q-Move, right?

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 07:40 PM

i think thats the name

but i can look

ah its under main

not mods and fun

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 07:42 PM

So it's not live, right?

Also it seems that Qshar didn't abandoned idea of a client mod for that. This is 2020 video and it looks even more awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u63-iDA_LTg

Project KoG

|KoG| Interactive Modification / qshar.com

Hello, welcome to another Teeworlds video. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - This video shows gores modification, on |KoG| server, called Interactive. ··············································································...

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 07:47 PM

it is live on Kog gores servers

Kog FRA #1 even has the map voted

kamikoto 19-Sep-20 08:04 PM

Joined the server.

Pure_luck 19-Sep-20 08:05 PM

how is the map called?

Dune 19-Sep-20 08:09 PM

that looks pretty good

Jupstar ✪ 19-Sep-20 08:28 PM

just call Q-Move in the votes(u might have to switch to main maps)

Zatline 19-Sep-20 10:16 PM

moveable platforms damn that's lit

Stiopa 19-Sep-20 10:53 PM

water litter!

TsFreddie 19-Sep-20 11:20 PM

Zatline 19-Sep-20 11:25 PM

both would be great but u are right taking a swim with a tee is more intriguing.

Miksalok 19-Sep-20 11:41 PM

Joined the server.

Arkanum 20-Sep-20 01:11 AM

Salam

Pe4ёnKa 20-Sep-20 02:30 AM

Joined the server.

patrick the goat 20-Sep-20 10:41 AM

Joined the server.

it's the 2b2t discord ?

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 12:06 PM

! FoXi Tee 20-Sep-20 12:12 PM

hack

a gerdoe 20-Sep-20 12:31 PM

@Stiopa what is that?

Assa 20-Sep-20 12:39 PM

looks like water physics

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 12:41 PM

@a gerdoe wah. pyuh wah

(experiment with water tile prototype, want to test out physics) (edited)

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 02:02 PM

messing with physics with this is really enjoyable

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 02:12 PM

nice map border

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 02:14 PM

automap ftw

took time and fixed it

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 03:36 PM

still experimenting

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 03:37 PM

how did you make the water tiles, just regular tiles?

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 03:38 PM

the water and laser being underwater is just an illusion

since I don't know how to add extra "game" layers xd

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 03:38 PM

cool

that might work tbh

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 03:39 PM

I am mostly experimenting with possible physics (with tunes) and possible usage in gameplay

weapons & pickups hard to get to due to being underwater etc

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 03:39 PM

keep doing that

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 03:39 PM

and most of all, learning new things in c++ and having fun

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 05:47 PM

can I reference CCharacter in CCharacterCore? (edited)

Learath2 20-Sep-20 05:48 PM

You probably shouldn't

If you really need to, you can do what ddrace did, we just added a new field for it and we set it every tick

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 05:50 PM

I see, I see

redix 20-Sep-20 05:50 PM

the core has to work on client side as well. for the prediction

Learath2 20-Sep-20 05:50 PM

Yeah, that's why it's not a great idea to mess around with the core

(you ofc can, provided you are careful)

heinrich5991 20-Sep-20 05:50 PM

for water, you have to

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 05:51 PM

makes sense well I wanted to modify a movement value based on parameter within the respective CCharacter

Learath2 20-Sep-20 05:51 PM

Ah, you are doing water?

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 05:51 PM

yeah, if you are adding in for both client and server, then do it

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 05:51 PM

I am trying to do some testing with water yeah

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 05:51 PM

but referencing CCharacter might have some problem

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 05:51 PM

wanted to add a DivingGear bool

Learath2 20-Sep-20 05:51 PM

@Stiopa though I'd probably argue that your parameter should be a part of the core in that case

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 05:51 PM

hmmm, that'd make sense

okay I think I know how to do it. thx for the help

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 06:16 PM

yep, works, but without prediction, as expected. lol

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 06:28 PM

nvm, managed to fix prediction

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 06:42 PM

fuck it, the void is too brutal. vast swathes of ocean on ctf5 await (edited)

Ravie 20-Sep-20 07:17 PM

then you can take the flag and camp in water near the death border

a gerdoe 20-Sep-20 07:19 PM

and stupidly die by laser chad

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 07:40 PM

of course

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 09:32 PM

Have you checked how water works in infNext?

is it any different than a tune_zone with gravity=-0.2?

DDNet server sends a fake_tune to 0.7 and it works nice there too

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 09:36 PM

yes I did see it! @Pure_luck

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 09:37 PM

Would like to borrow this technique to my mod too if it will become more advanced

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 09:42 PM

well, what I am doing is both client and serverside

when teeworlds compiles, it uses the game.png and the client_data from the out folder?

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 09:58 PM

I just learned that content.py is responsible for many files the HARD way

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:16 PM

yo @Zatline you are an artist right?

Zatline 20-Sep-20 10:16 PM

I am I think yea

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:16 PM

and by that I mean that I know

that you are one

therefore

rate my breath icon

in the top left

isn't it pretty?

Zatline 20-Sep-20 10:17 PM

hmm u want me to be honest right

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:17 PM

oh hell yeah be honest, nothing can beat that icon!

Zatline 20-Sep-20 10:17 PM

it looks like an ice cube (edited)

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:17 PM

assymetric, two color piece of modern art

ice cube? air bubble? same thing

most important that it works

now I have a beta with 5 tuning parameters, working water tile, invisible diving gear pickup

and basic water physics

oh, and drowning

Zatline 20-Sep-20 10:19 PM

sounds great

we gotta start somewhere

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:19 PM

well, this is mostly for gameplay tests

Zatline 20-Sep-20 10:20 PM

of course I mean that should be first priority anyway

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:20 PM

no good gameplay = no water probably

Zatline 20-Sep-20 10:20 PM

yea pretty much

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:22 PM

https://github.com/Stiopa866/teeworlds/tree/harpoon my src is here for this

https://youtu.be/aCVueivH-EM?t=129

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Stiopa866/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:22 PM

harpoon time

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:22 PM

one known issue, when using content.py one weapon in enum is not added

(WEAPON_HARPOON) and an error is given

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:22 PM

i need to look up what a harpoon is

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:23 PM

(professional art included)

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:23 PM

is harpoon a handheld thing or a shooty thing

(what am i talking about

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:23 PM

I think the latter is the harpoon gun?

I just simplified it to harpoon

tbh I cannot fathom that this thing works

during zesc modernization I had bugs at every step, here I didn't have to worry that much

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:25 PM

btw, i'd recommend seperate weapon and water into two branches

we can probably make water backward compatible

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:26 PM

hmm

but then trying out both at once would require a third branch, with both branches merged together, right?

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:27 PM

ye

well no

you have a water one and a water and harpoon one

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:27 PM

ah

yeah that sounds good

would solve the issue with compilation everytime the python script is launched

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:28 PM

anyway, we can back port part of it, do whatever

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:28 PM

oh, one more feature of the branch I forgot, gun,shotgun and grenades are unusable underwater and their bullets disappear while touching it atm (probably should make it into a bool tune)

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:29 PM

bad habit of shooting suggestions out of my a

a gerdoe 20-Sep-20 10:29 PM

@Stiopa can you send gameplay video here?

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:29 PM

unfortunately I can't, for I do not have recording software (edited)

actually

I can make a demo? or will it not work without the right client?

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:30 PM

no it wont

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:30 PM

oh yeah if u want to test it, don't forget to change the server gametype to mod, so as not to get netbanned :P

current tunes

Knnrz 20-Sep-20 10:33 PM

Joined the server.

Zatline 20-Sep-20 10:33 PM

oh, one more feature of the branch I forgot, gun,shotgun and grenades are unusable underwater and their bullets disappear while touching it atm (probably should make it into a bool tune)

@Stiopa it be cool if we could make projectiles leave the baarrel at high velocity but instantly slow down and start to just float after a certain distance

check this for reference https://youtu.be/L4Y4GUmvPkU?t=98

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:34 PM

well

I wanted to do that, but I ran into the issue of projectile pos being calculated based on the amount of ticks they existed, curvature and speed

or at least that's how I understood the code (which I hope is right)

hence I opted out for the destruction

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:37 PM

@Stiopa have you seen actual WaterMod sources?

water was rather advanced there

not just gravity and curves I mean (edited)

though I didn't digged into that very much

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:39 PM

not really

also, I just noticed that my diving gear instead of preventing you from drowning, makes you drown

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:40 PM

~~why everybody code this fast, i can't do that much in two days~~

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:41 PM

you talking about the water stuff?

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:41 PM

ye

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:41 PM

I spent an entire day on this :D

- some breaks for teeworlds vanilla ofc

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:41 PM

also, I just noticed that my diving gear instead of preventing you from drowning, makes you drown

do you have enemies?

IRL I mean

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:42 PM

why would I? :P

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:42 PM

it looks that somebody hacked your drowning gear to arrange an accident

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:42 PM

lol

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:42 PM

I spent an entire day on this :D

@Stiopa i spent an entire day on menus, didn't do much

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:43 PM

why everybody code this fast, i can't do that much in two days

because they just adding new simple features, not refactoring a 10 old year mess

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:43 PM

menus are probably harder

oh yeah, also diving gear removes the water decel and floating values

so basically water becomes air

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:43 PM

also everything serverside in this game is much simpler that anything clientside I guess

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:44 PM

(I can't do swimming mechanics for the love of me)

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:44 PM

(we don't have a up and a down key)

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:44 PM

server code is self-contained, it talks with client only. Client has to talk with a ton of layers and systems like GL and so on (edited)

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:44 PM

another bug, drown crashes the server

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:44 PM

you don't have to learn anything to make server mod. You just hack

in worst case you will peek into a client network code

or place one debug once a month into it

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:45 PM

i made client hack before. don't know how i did it. because it is giving me headache rn (edited)

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:46 PM

that's why I've chosen to be a backend engineer

anything frontend consists of constantly evolving things depends on other constantly evolving things

you can just a backend and a frontend have to adapt to an API you give

In web dev world I mean

I've tried to be a full-stack, but burned up very soon

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:47 PM

i mean css/html or something like vuejs wasnt that bad

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:48 PM

if you like it, it's ok

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:48 PM

but teeworlds is meh

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:48 PM

another bug, tuning the length of drowning breaks the breath indicator

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:48 PM

i do care ux in terms how the ui respond. but it was pretty hard to do anything in tws (edited)

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:50 PM

crash bug fixed

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:50 PM

I would love the whole teeworlds to be rewritten on something like C# so I will not get memory corruption and segfaults

but it will not happen so I have to learn C++ memory management like every man should :] (edited)

~~I will be a master in just 10 years~~ (edited)

Zatline 20-Sep-20 10:52 PM

how more complicated is c++ compared to c# ?

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:52 PM

Syntax is about the same level.

But I've never experienced any memory problems with unity/C# that I get here (edited)

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:53 PM

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:53 PM

alright

ok that should all about water from me for today

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:53 PM

can't remember who's code i've stolen for my old client

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:53 PM

all memory management in C++ is so low-level and unsafe

and really hard to do right for a noob

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:54 PM

but i remember my scoreboard was pretty cool (not really)

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:54 PM

especially with structures from 90x that are common in tw code (edited)

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:54 PM

I of course recommend to check my stuff out

all ya need to do is to clone, create autoexec making the server mod, compile server, compile client, make a map that has a tile with the water (in game layer) and voi-la!

good lord, I am tired

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:55 PM

thought you would provide a premade map

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:55 PM

@Stiopa too lazy, just give me IP to connecti with a vanilla

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:55 PM

either due to 4h of sleep or 10+ h of coding

it is not vanilla compatible

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:55 PM

probably both

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:55 PM

either due to 4h of sleep or 10+ h of coding

are you narcoleptic? you falling asleep while coding? ;) (edited)

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:56 PM

no, I thought I'd wake up in 6h but I was wrong

it was 4h

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:56 PM

have you eaten

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:56 PM

enough

yes

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:56 PM

Ah, I've read it like "4th of sleep"

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:56 PM

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:56 PM

Attachment: ctf56.map (10.17 KB)

here is the vast oceans of ctf5 map

dm7 fork with a pool in the bottom part

Attachment: dm7fork.map (9.62 KB)

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:57 PM

why water at all, @Stiopa ?

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:57 PM

cuz oy said yes

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:57 PM

cause I want to test it ingame

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:57 PM

why this enhacement?

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:57 PM

oy said "design discussion"

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:57 PM

can we make it more like minetee?

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:57 PM

what isn't a good way to test it other than ingame?

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:57 PM

he said yes if we can design it well in irc

iirc

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:58 PM

and the build should help to see the flaws in design etc

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:58 PM

wwwCLANHDPnet

MineTee - Slowly Development Progress

Mod of Teeworlds 0.6

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:58 PM

one can build maps with this I suppose

well TBH

liquid tunings allow for making trampolines

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 10:58 PM

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:59 PM

tune liq_x_decel -1.1 makes a trampoline that puts you higher and higher

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 10:59 PM

just see how liquids work here

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 10:59 PM

to have flowing water is one of the final goals I think

idk, I just want to have a working game example of physics

well "proposed" physics made by me

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 11:00 PM

terraria/minecraft/minetee would be ok I think

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 11:00 PM

after you fixed your bugs you should post it under the issue

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 11:00 PM

with a bit of customization though ofc

well, I will work on it tomorrow, sadly I have a 12h busy day ahead of me before I come home >:

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 11:00 PM

anyway flowing water is not decorative right?

so server will know and could change map structure?

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 11:01 PM

current bug I am aware of is the bubble gui messy with tuned values

besides that the icons for new pickups are weird

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 11:01 PM

a early version should be fine. if the discussion doesn't go well, better change it earlier than right before you completed everything ^^

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 11:02 PM

well, first gimme 30 mins, then I will try to post it under the issue

now; brb

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 11:02 PM

making the water is simple, making it iteractive and updatable is hard task

cause there is no protocol to change a map serverside

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 11:02 PM

wait you don't have to do it now, you should get some sleep

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 11:02 PM

@Stiopa go buy a Melaxen to fight your coffee and get sleep bro. You're amazing (edited)

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 11:03 PM

i think it was discussed to have a flow path. like a fixed water fall

but i might be wrong

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 11:03 PM

then it's nothing new

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 11:03 PM

too lazy to check issues

it is for vanilla tho

anyway

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 11:03 PM

and it's effectively a tune zone

TsFreddie 20-Sep-20 11:03 PM

i should go back looking at menus

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~~wait i lost my onion rings~~

~~i remember i ordered some onion rings, can't find them~~

Zatline 20-Sep-20 11:11 PM

it would be really cool if we would end up with a fully interactable sim at the end that flows down drags tees with the direction it flows eventually if there is an emitter that constantly spawns water you would need a draining system to let the water exit the map or else the whole map would drown over time but for making things simple we should probably focus on the overall gameplay first and dynamic splash and ripple effects are gonna be a challenge even without water flowing under the rules of gravity

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Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 11:12 PM

I think simple rules could be made to calculate a direction of a flow even with a tile-based flow.

I mean both the spread of substance and the direction of a force it should produce for a tee submerged in it.

But still it will require a server to be at least aware of that model or it will desyncronise.

Would love to see a server telling a client "place water tile INSTEAD of any tile that is there currently on X, Y and apply a force towards left-bottom of a tile to any tee passing it" (edited)

So many things could be made with that protocol change. And I cannot imagine dynamic water flows working without it. (edited)

Stiopa 20-Sep-20 11:25 PM

For that thing we need a code wizard!

Also, I think I will just go straight to sleep

I'd like to sleep properly

I'd appreciate if someone put my repo on the issue, mentioned the 6 tunes, special tile, tube for disabling selection of projectiles in water, drowning etc

And maybe a video for @a gerdoe

Pure_luck 20-Sep-20 11:56 PM

And for me. Don't get what are you doing and what is done.

Learath2 21-Sep-20 01:04 AM

Dynamic water simulations are kinda far fetched honestly

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 05:55 AM

I am also a bit concerned about that tbh. Sounds like a lot of effort which I wonder if it will be plausible

Arkanum 21-Sep-20 07:22 AM

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Stiopa 21-Sep-20 07:40 AM

So... next up is making the liquid push out parameter scale based on breath

Learath2 21-Sep-20 10:06 AM

Static water is very much doable, an actual fluid simulation while possible is a little tooooo much work

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 10:14 AM

But the look on peoples' faces!

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 10:26 AM

I see it like this: * static water: we could receive tune_zones with normal predictions in 0.7, still they're working ~ok in 0.7 vanilla already except when being on border. But ofc that could be done restrictive way and mods will not gain much with it * simple spreading/flowing water (minecraft/terraria-style): we could receive a new protocol for managing loaded map tiles from a server, which would be awesome if done right and non-restrictive A win-win situation.

Also we know that 2nd one is at least doable since we have minetee, one person was doing it afaia.

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 11:02 AM

Static water would be up to 4 liquid types' with each ones tuning defined in .map (edited)

Imo

Or more. Doesn't hurt to add more, does it?

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 11:06 AM

I just don't get why don't add tune zones instead of static set of liquids.

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 11:33 AM

Hmm

Learath2 21-Sep-20 11:36 AM

Are tune-zones enough to emulate fluids?

Do tune-zones bring anything to the table for vanilla?

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 11:38 AM

Depends on complexity I suppose

fokkonaut 21-Sep-20 11:47 AM

tune zones + speedups are quite nice

ShootXen 21-Sep-20 11:49 AM

Add jump pads

Learath2 21-Sep-20 12:09 PM

Each proposal needs to think how useful it would be for vanilla. I don't ever see speedups being merged

Dune 21-Sep-20 12:17 PM

I mean, unhookables and death tiles weren't very useful for vanilla if at all. They bring some fun new gameplay though

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 12:30 PM

They make nice possibilities for mappers

Ravie 21-Sep-20 12:36 PM

@Learath2 I've never been able to make decent water on ddnet neither with tunes or speeders, they both make you just bounce eternally (gravity tunes spit you out with the same force you came in)

Learath2 21-Sep-20 12:52 PM

Yeah I thought so too, it creates something more like a trampoline than water

Sonix 21-Sep-20 12:53 PM

Yeah Kinda like those giant air baloons where kids play

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 01:00 PM

Bouncy castles? @Sonix

Sonix 21-Sep-20 01:01 PM

Yeah

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 01:04 PM

Salt Water which a tee can only float on

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 01:16 PM

I've never been able to make decent water on ddnet neither with tunes or speeders, they both make you just bounce eternally (gravity tunes spit you out with the same force you came in)

You could add some friction I guess. But I like tees bouncing near the surface. (edited)

w/o friction

Attachment: water2.webm (569.19 KB)

more extreem example of no friction water behavior

Attachment: water1.webm (683.08 KB)

Could only capure 7-9 seconds only, sorry. Advice me some linux screen recorder better than Peek please. (edited)

Souly 21-Sep-20 01:24 PM

whats with the colors

Learath2 21-Sep-20 01:24 PM

@Pure_luck I've had much better luck with just ffmpeg

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 01:25 PM

What's wrong with the colors? They're fine

Learath2 21-Sep-20 01:26 PM

I even had a cute slop script so I can record sections of the screen, though don't have access to my computer rn

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 01:26 PM

Ah you mean the "random" skin.

It's a skin for humans for a warmup period to encourage them to choose a class. Not related to water.

DDNet supports fully customizable skin bodies. If you would connect from 0.7 client you will just see a one-colored default tee skin instead for a "random" human class. (edited)

Learath2 21-Sep-20 01:29 PM

Now that I think about it, buoyancy only depends on how much of an object is submerged, so the force applied is fairly constant. I guess inverse gravity isn't too bad of a hack

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 01:30 PM

It's not bad indeeed. And to reduce bouncing effect one could use air friction. Had not considered this important for my mod so I haven't used it. (edited)

In my mod people rarely have time to enjoy swimming and floating

(edited)

Dune 21-Sep-20 01:33 PM

@Pure_luck simple screen recorder works well

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 01:34 PM

Despite it's name it's not simple. And has not worked for me for some reason.

Peek was awesome but after a system update it just records first 7 seconds now.

Patiga 21-Sep-20 01:34 PM

@Pure_luck whats wrong with obs?

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 01:35 PM

It is even more monstrous and didn't worked too in my system. Idk why

I have nvidia card with proprietary drivers, maybe that matters.

Patiga 21-Sep-20 01:35 PM

huh, i have the same but it just works for me

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 01:37 PM

Wow, after system update that broke Peek now OBS is working

I've started and stopped recording. How to export it? (edited)

Ah it saves to ~/Videos

Patiga 21-Sep-20 01:40 PM

^ you can change the path in the settings if you like

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 01:42 PM

No, it's ok. I've just expected that this program will add video clips to it's UI for arrangement

it's a studio after all

Attachment: 2020-09-21_14-41-30.mp4 (4.84 MB)

Learath2 21-Sep-20 01:45 PM

It's more of the live broadcast type of studio

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 01:51 PM

I was wrong. Nothing useful could be achieved with air_friction for a water (edited)

Any parameter from 0.1 to 0.99 I give doesn't make any changes to that bouncing effect.

Any parameter above 1.0 just breaks any air inertia in that zone.

I can add a serverside hack ofc to reduce it. Or fix air_friction.

Because it is now cannot be used for anything useful at all.

Though I am not motivated to do that. This doesn't break gameplay and looks okayish for a mod.

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 02:03 PM

What would be useful is a ~proper calculation of forces applied to a body based on submersion ratio. I don't mean anything complex. It's just if in water gravity is -0.2 and in air it is +1.0 then for a 50% submerged tee it should be about +0.8. I don't think we need quadratic equations here. Right now when tee center is passing a media separation boundary the force changes momentary, not gradually over time so we get that push down effect. (edited)

It is there because tee is not getting any positive gravity while entering air before completely leaving water. (edited)

That would a step forward from ddnet tune zones If teeworlds will not only get tune_zones but something like gradually changing tunes on how much tee's body is in that zone. it doesn't sounds very hard to do after tune_zones will be implemented.

Ravie 21-Sep-20 02:31 PM

even in the last video, you're bobbing up and down too much imo

there needs to be some way to lose vertical momentum in water, so after some time you just come to almost a stop at the surface or at the bottom (edited)

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 02:39 PM

I've tried to use air_friction, but it's broken

for values from 0 to 1.0 it doesn't affect vertical component of force (and doesn't visibly affect horizontal, but I did't tested much) (edited)

for values above 1.0 it in fact starts to reduce vertical component but it breaks horizontal forces completely boosting them to their clamped max and then freezes a tee

Ravie 21-Sep-20 02:41 PM

doesn't air_friction only work horizontally?

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 02:41 PM

I think it is.

And it's lame. It's ok for a 2d game to have a physics made of hacks though. (edited)

Just teeworlds physics looks convincing at the first glance.

Ravie 21-Sep-20 02:43 PM

yeah some hacky tune zone water isn't good enough, we need something with proper physics that feels really nice to swim in

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 02:43 PM

I propose to add vertical friction (which could be 0 for default tune_zone)

Or make it work gradually on the division of medias/tune_zones with a ratio of submersion as I've proposed before

it will work too, though not having a vertical friction is more critical here

Learath2 21-Sep-20 02:44 PM

Game physics aren't always accurate, you do what feels good. Mario's jumps aren't parabolas, Karts don't get a boost from drifting, Planes can't take off that slowly

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 02:44 PM

Like I dunno air_damping parameter for a vertical component of momentum (edited)

@Learath2 I know. That's why I call it ok for a 2d game.

Learath2 21-Sep-20 02:46 PM

Even for 3d games, cars don't handle nearly as well as they handle in GTA

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 02:46 PM

Ofc, there is Dirt 2.0 which almost nobody can drive properly. It's too realistic

Game are more or less copying physics for cars which "work" (think playable with no effort)

Ravie 21-Sep-20 02:48 PM

you just need to make it realistic enough to be somewhat convincing but unrealistic enough to feel good

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Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 02:49 PM

Right

If tune zones will be added to the game then we could add paremeters to change them from default in those zones only. Without a risk of breaking a gameplay on existing mods/modes. (edited)

Ravie 21-Sep-20 02:51 PM

well I can't think of almost any use for tune zones in vanilla

I guess the best one would be something like a space station map where you can exit into space and float around

Zatline 21-Sep-20 02:55 PM

I guess the best one would be something like a space station map where you can exit into space and float around

@Ravie that would be so sick tho

that alone would justify implementation of tune zones even if no vanilla map would use it

Ravie 21-Sep-20 02:57 PM

yeah but it's like the only thing

and even then, I'm still in favor of proper water physics

do it well or not at all

Zatline 21-Sep-20 02:58 PM

how about toxic air? a section of a map that is accessible but deadly if u in it for too long or without a mask

wouldn't that too require tune zones?

Ravie 21-Sep-20 03:00 PM

you can't currently do that with tune zones

and I'm not really a fan of adding too many game elements to a minimalistic game that is already perfectly balanced

but I think this idea would work well in something like a zombie mod (if it's not already a thing)

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 03:39 PM

well I can't think of almost any use for tune zones in vanilla

To think of it I cannot think of any use of any new feature in vanilla. Because it's vanilla. It's made of parts that were at the moment. So asking yourself if vanilla need anything new is not a real question, it doesn't.

Ravie 21-Sep-20 03:39 PM

it needs water :D

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 03:40 PM

Does it? Why?

Ravie 21-Sep-20 03:40 PM

because water is amazing for mapping

it just adds variety and charm to maps and doesn't change the already perfect vanilla gameplay

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 03:40 PM

Tune zones are amazing for mapping too. Check KoG, DDRace, my mod.

Ravie 21-Sep-20 03:41 PM

I've never been a fan of them

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 03:41 PM

So it's very subjective.

Ravie 21-Sep-20 03:41 PM

well ddrace is already full of crazy weird things, vanilla should stay pure

Pure_luck 21-Sep-20 03:41 PM

I don't like DDRace and KoG too. I am not a racing guy. (edited)

"Vanilla should stay pure". Should it become more pure reverting everything to 0.6 or maybe 0.5?

It was purer back then, right?

Purity is a controversial goal if you think of it.

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 03:51 PM

@Zatline toxic air can be made via static fluid with special tuning

Static liquids w tuning are basically tune zones lol

If there is liquid plurality ofc

Ravie 21-Sep-20 04:24 PM

imo there should just be water

at most, 4 hard coded presets like water, acid, lava, quicksand

jxsl13 21-Sep-20 04:31 PM

insert toxic comment, get toxic air, ???, lol

Bungus_the_god 21-Sep-20 05:45 PM

Joined the server.

henlo

people still play this game right

jxsl13 21-Sep-20 05:54 PM

yes, about 1000 players 24/7

Bungus_the_god 21-Sep-20 06:01 PM

Is that just for ddrace or teeworlds as a whole

Dune 21-Sep-20 06:16 PM

Mostly ddrace

Bungus_the_god 21-Sep-20 06:17 PM

Damn

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 09:30 PM

adding more tunes

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 10:02 PM

added a "swim up" mechanic for diving gear tees

now, I wish I could add more today but there are constraints :t

louis 21-Sep-20 10:05 PM

water where u can like actually swim by pressing jump -> tee goes up a bit would be cool

but i doubt it would be added

+ would look weird without an animation + sound effect + special particles

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 10:05 PM

yeah I just added that

Zatline 21-Sep-20 10:32 PM

@louis graphics are no issue no worry I'm already at it

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 10:33 PM

you are already at water graphics? o.0

louis 21-Sep-20 10:36 PM

oh nice

Zatline 21-Sep-20 10:39 PM

I made some bubble particles yesterday and for the HUD too

and a mock-up for a spear gun

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 11:18 PM

not a bit too early for that?

nothing's confirmed

these are the best mockups @Zatline

made by your best graphicsperson - me

Zatline 21-Sep-20 11:22 PM

https://tenor.com/view/spongebobsquarepants-sculpture-art-gif-4621520

people who are amazing at art

Stiopa 21-Sep-20 11:23 PM

is that a statue made out of an air bubble?

Zatline 22-Sep-20 02:03 AM

@Stiopa try this as particle

you could try to just use the first bubble in the line and just let it fade out or use the whole sprite sheet an make em pop (edited)

Zatline 22-Sep-20 02:14 AM

for HUD try this - bubble for tee without diving gear - the other for diving gear as oxygen meter (take ninja countdown as reference) (edited)

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 05:47 AM

Will do!

When at home ofc, that is in like 9h

fokkonaut 22-Sep-20 06:52 AM

@Stiopa do you have a github somewhere

id like to see ur current changes

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 07:12 AM

https://github.com/Stiopa866/teeworlds/tree/harpoon

https://youtu.be/mL2_wEeQGVk

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Stiopa866/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

The goal is a highly tunable groundwork with static files for testing and perfecting the physics so as to create a fun mechanic that would not annoy the player too much (edited)

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 07:55 AM

@fokkonaut professional programmer alt included

Art*

fokkonaut 22-Sep-20 08:01 AM

wym

Changes looking nice so far, but code style is not optimal (edited)

but that doesnt matter for now, I will try the new physics later. Whats a bit sad is that this will break bridge servers and mods that use this tile index already

but nvm, vanilla is vanilla.

TsFreddie 22-Sep-20 08:09 AM

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 08:12 AM

Well my original intention was not to merge it, but to test, so I didn't correct changes made by the VS (edited)

VekiPro 22-Sep-20 03:54 PM

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 05:32 PM

bubble imported

no more ice cube

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 07:04 PM

gui is kinda bloated. using entity followed by the remaining amount in form of a number might help. dunno if those ten bubbles should be in the short notation.

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 07:05 PM

yeah, it is getting kind of crampy in there

Souly 22-Sep-20 10:00 PM

this whole water thing is looking really good

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 10:48 PM

@Zatline ngl the particles are adorable

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:27 PM

funny bubbles

what do you think about placing bubbles on a circular path above/around your tee?

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:28 PM

circular path?

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:28 PM

circle

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:29 PM

well yeah, but like, the bubbles would circle around the tee? move back and forth? (edited)

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:30 PM

they would decrease the same way as the previous revision with the bubbles

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:30 PM

well, that would require advanced particle movements, I suppose

and by that I mean digging into particle code >.<

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:32 PM

I mean not ingame bubbles, but bubbles indicating your air left

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:32 PM

ahh

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:32 PM

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:32 PM

hmmm

and they would pop one by one?

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:32 PM

decreases from right to left. just

yes

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:32 PM

well, that'd free up the space

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:33 PM

just an idea to debloat top left

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:33 PM

but that doesn't really fit the diving gear gui (not as much at least) (edited)

(the one visible in top left corner instead of bubbles)

that should definitely be on the "possible solutions" board tho

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:34 PM

doesnt that also indicate air left?

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:34 PM

honestly, there needs to be a "summary" for the water issue, with different aspects and the possible ways to deal with them

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:34 PM

top left

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:34 PM

yes that is the air indicator for diving gear users

w/o diving gear it's bubbles

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:35 PM

D:

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:36 PM

for example water movement: * regular teeworlds movement + water friction * regular teeworlds movement but jump makes you swim up * using jump makes you swim in the direction you are looking at

etc etc

https://github.com/Stiopa866/teeworlds/tree/harpoon I updated this btw

http://www.mediafire.com/file/pmgq77kqe0dc3l5/teeworldswater.zip/file

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Stiopa866/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

jxsl13 22-Sep-20 11:37 PM

introducing a go down key

wluld be interesting

Stiopa 22-Sep-20 11:37 PM

rn I dealt with the "go down" by removing the friction if u have diving gear

basically, diving gear makes you pretty damn good in water atm

which is not my final goal tbh but it works for now

bubble particles, even more tuning options, less bugs of one type, more bugs of another type

also, I begun working on a first "water" featuring map for testing

I should probably get myself a checklist of stuff to do. I keep forgetting about stuff

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 12:02 AM

can I somehow compile a full .zip version of teeworlds? (with all the subdirectiories that are included in the regular version you download?)

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 12:09 AM

how are you building it

for msvc there is package_zip.vcxproj

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 12:09 AM

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 12:09 AM

switch project in your solution explorer, if you opened teeworlds.sln (edited)

if you opened something like everything.vcxproj, close it and open package_zip.vcxproj instead

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 12:11 AM

uh, I believe I just opened the folder in vs

there is no .vcxproj file anywhere I think

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 12:14 AM

then idk

maybe it is different with cmake

Learath2 23-Sep-20 12:15 AM

I have no idea how its supposed to work with vs

But if you are not scared of the command prompt its quite easy

Dune 23-Sep-20 12:28 AM

there is a make_release.py script in scripts

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 12:29 AM

where does it output?

ah, whatever, I managed to compile a .zip file out of th out contents

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-star-rainbowstreak-nbc-gif-4884642

@Zatline btw. I can't fully fulfill your request for the diving gear gui

since the original ninja bar works off an extended gui piece and I don't have enough experience to make one that would not extend

so rn I kept it "extended"

Zatline 23-Sep-20 12:35 AM

yea I saw that it's ok :p

didn't know that either

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 12:35 AM

well, anyway, I'm off. I've included some of my test maps in the .zip package

Zatline 23-Sep-20 12:36 AM

is there any server on to check it out?

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 12:36 AM

gonna get started on perhaps a new layer for water or something about the weapon tomororw

nope, you'd have to host your own

srv server included with auto_cfg to make it mod

Zatline 23-Sep-20 12:37 AM

me don't know how to host own server

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 12:37 AM

just copy the password

ok, click the .exe copy password that will be explicitly shown

connect . in f1

password in f2

ez pz

I wonder if the server would even show up in the feed

Lots of net obj modified

Actually. I could implement max vel in liquid without the friction (even 0.95 friction slows down fast on tick by tick basis)

More tunes, yay!

Well. Hopefully tomorrow. I don't come back as late as on Monday and Tuesday.

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:41 AM

Considering the pos of projectiles is calculated based on ticks passed and the initial pos, slowing them down in water might be tricky

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 03:00 PM

Idea: allow tees to pour salt into water to make it push out more

Learath2 23-Sep-20 03:16 PM

lol

allow tees to pour cyanide in the water to kill tees that enter it

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 03:34 PM

among us

Patiga 23-Sep-20 03:59 PM

next simulate air flow and wind!

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:00 PM

HAIR physics!

Patiga 23-Sep-20 04:00 PM

YES

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:00 PM

hell yes

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 04:06 PM

Wind wind... cosmetic or gameplay affecting?

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:14 PM

well without gameplay this would be boring?

maybe not worth the effort

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 04:14 PM

thing is, how would that work?

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:15 PM

gliding capes

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 04:15 PM

o

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:15 PM

I don't know xD

new movement mechanic next to hook, capes :0

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 04:16 PM

gliding cape sounds hella cool

but the wind would probably be decided with rng

and thus would implement a bit of randomness into CTF for example

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:16 PM

wind might be either random or decided by the mapper

like water

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 04:17 PM

still, doesn't seem all that useful

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:17 PM

well, I'm far from confident about this, tho

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 04:17 PM

the only maps large enough to make gliding fun and useful are for CTF and those are usually too symmetry focused (edited)

gliding in ctf5 under the map or above it :D (edited)

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:18 PM

I would not expect new gameplay mechanics to be used on old maps. those would require new maps.

Learath2 23-Sep-20 04:22 PM

A hairy tee, I'll get right on that in blender

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 04:30 PM

just giving examples

Learath2 23-Sep-20 04:30 PM

I wanted to try the new hair sim in blender 2.9 anyway

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 04:31 PM

wet tee when it comes out of water (edited)

with dripping water :D

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 04:33 PM

eww

hairy tee

kiwi worlds

1

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:41 PM

results, when @Learath2 ?

Learath2 23-Sep-20 04:42 PM

I'm a rather shitty modeller, so maybe a week?

1

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:43 PM

High hopes.

does anyone know where that restriction comes from on ddrace servers where you can only kickvote team mates?

Learath2 23-Sep-20 04:48 PM

@jxsl13 it's been there for a long time, but the idea was that if you are in a team, you shouldn't care about kicking people outside your team (since they don't influence you at all)

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 04:49 PM

is this togglable?

that restriction?

I have seen people funvote other people on team 0 and then join another team to avoid being voted.

I have seen people insult other people in chat while being in a different team.

so no votes for them.

⌁WILD ⫸HANI⌁ 23-Sep-20 05:07 PM

Joined the server.

Rilla 23-Sep-20 06:55 PM

Is there a client or a possible way, to see all players in zoome dout map while bien in spectator?

Iman 23-Sep-20 07:04 PM

*zoomed out

*while being

! FoXi Tee 23-Sep-20 07:05 PM

Zoom out

And then switch to spec

noby 23-Sep-20 07:09 PM

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 07:16 PM

the good old out of background quad

noby 23-Sep-20 07:17 PM

huh

theres a map related way to reproduce this?

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 07:18 PM

try making the background quad giant

and this might not be an issue anymore, my guess

oh

my bad

thought that was zoomed out

well

then that most likely isnt

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 07:38 PM

making swimming mechanics is much harder than I anticipated

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:44 PM

oof

noby 23-Sep-20 07:45 PM

@jxsl13 its normal map

usually works fine with 0.6 and 0.7

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:45 PM

what happened

is it a bug

well i mean it obviously is. how tho

noby 23-Sep-20 07:49 PM

its a cmd on f2

no bug

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:50 PM

I have seen people insult other people in chat while being in a different team.

@jxsl13 well if it is chat related they should call mods when it is necessary, joining other teams probably won't affect their gameplay

there is a mute feature after all

its a cmd on f2

@noby oh.

noby 23-Sep-20 07:51 PM

still weird

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:51 PM

which cmd

noby 23-Sep-20 07:51 PM

custom

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:51 PM

oh

so you did it

how

noby 23-Sep-20 07:52 PM

ye

just test cmd

join srv with vanilla client il show u

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 07:52 PM

I prefer kickvoting toxic players.

does not change the other problem, tho

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:54 PM

dropped

noby 23-Sep-20 07:55 PM

hmm

f

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:56 PM

dropped

noby 23-Sep-20 07:56 PM

idk why it doesnt work for u

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:56 PM

i'm using refactored. do i try master or 0.7.5

noby 23-Sep-20 07:57 PM

whatd u change?

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:57 PM

the entire textrender thing as usual

noby 23-Sep-20 07:57 PM

i guess default version

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 07:57 PM

try water ;)

(actually, don't do it, it's incompatible)

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:58 PM

trippy

noby 23-Sep-20 07:58 PM

hahahah

wait so

whatever u did with text render

actually fixes this

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 07:58 PM

maybe it is just a 32bit thing

i only have a 32bit build of vanilla

what did you do exactly tho

noby 23-Sep-20 07:59 PM

dm

estreya 23-Sep-20 08:05 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 08:38 PM

anyone here able to host a server for me? <3

jxsl13 23-Sep-20 08:43 PM

more info

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 08:45 PM

I'd like a server hosted with latest binary from the water build, with a few maps and an admin pass, so that I could try to get some people to test & give feedback

unfortunately, I can't quite host it myself

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 08:46 PM

why binary

also like where do you want the server, that's important too

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 08:48 PM

well... I just used "binary" since I think that's what the .exe files are called, right?

also doesn't have to be 24/7

preferably in Europe, somewhere germany-poland ^^

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 08:49 PM

usually ppl clone the source and build them on server so it is guaranteed to run.

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 08:49 PM

fair enough ^^

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 08:49 PM

and usually servers aren't windows so no exe i guess

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 08:49 PM

ah... right

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 08:50 PM

i have a uk server

haven't tried running any teeworlds

i can try tho

you might want to change the nethash before running it on server so vanilla don't see it

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 08:51 PM

yeah that would be helpful

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 08:51 PM

or just don't register with master i guess

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 08:51 PM

wouldn't not registering with master disallow other people to join, even with the same build?

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 08:51 PM

no

they can still join with ip

let me grab my server from the dead, haven't used it for a while

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 08:52 PM

I see, I see

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 08:53 PM

do i just grab your branch

or do you want to manage the server yourself

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:00 PM

lemme update it first

yeah should be ok now @TsFreddie

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 09:01 PM

did you push it

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:01 PM

did not do any new commits since the last push like 30 mins ago

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 09:01 PM

so what are you updating

i've built it already. do you have a config you'd like to use

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:02 PM

sv_gametype mod sv_register 0

should be enough

I assume the server will generate auto password, right?

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 09:03 PM

well if you want a fixed one and no copy it each restart

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:03 PM

also I'd like those two maps for testing

Attachment: polygon.map (1.85 KB)

Attachment: test.map (2.31 KB)

sure, I can pm you the password then

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 09:07 PM

194.124.32.240 (edited)

whatever the default port is

i forgot lol

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:09 PM

8303

works!

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 09:09 PM

cool

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:09 PM

say, have you checked the build out yet?

you've got the perfect opportunity now

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 09:10 PM

i don't have it on my machine

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:10 PM

I've been curious if prediction on other players work and if there are issues with >1 person

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 09:10 PM

do you have a build for windows

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:10 PM

well, I work off a cmake build for windows10

from vs

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 09:10 PM

i mean

can i have a build directly

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:11 PM

I can send a download down your way gimme a sec

http://www.mediafire.com/file/pmgq77kqe0dc3l5/teeworldswater.zip/file

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/637737823394463753.png?v=1

@TsFreddie this should work

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:52 PM

@TsFreddie jump issue fixed

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 09:53 PM

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 09:54 PM

next up, something the air bubble rendering

I fixed it? I guess?

if (m_BreathTick < 5) //magic floating tee number that won't make it flick { return -1; }

(edited)

this works, I suppose

it's not perfect. but it isn't as bad

among other issues was the air accel on water not being affected by water's friction? @TsFreddie (edited)

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:06 PM

you should make a new accel tuning for on top of water

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:07 PM

make a tune for being able to walk on water

sorry, had to say that, continue

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:07 PM

basically yea

but before that you should code the top layer of the water separately so you can make sure you can tell if the tee is floating instead of doing >

> if (m_BreathTick < 5) //magic floating tee number that won't make it flick > { > return -1; > } >

that's what i think at least

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:09 PM

well, the float up tune would still push them out of that one, wouldn't it?

or do you mean a special one DIRECTLY on top of water?

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:09 PM

maybe

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:09 PM

that doesn't have any other property?

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:10 PM

special friction and accel for that and be different from accel in the water i guess.

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:10 PM

hmm

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:11 PM

difference between swim and dive is what i've thought of

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:11 PM

depends. how would that go if we went with a water simulation? (not-tile-based-water)

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:11 PM

i dont think sim will happen anyway

we don't even have a dedicated physics engine yet

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:12 PM

me neither but I like to fool myself it could

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:12 PM

actually

forget what ive said

might have problem for floating water tiles

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:13 PM

I could make a IsFloating() function that checks if you are standing on top of some water pixels and have some of your body parts in air

sounds like a challenge to code but could be done?

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:13 PM

yea that

i like that

but still. floating water might be different. like about the side of water.

well probably shouldnt think too much about it right now

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:14 PM

TestBox function could maybe work... idk

rn, perfecting physics should probably be focus

or perfecting the tuning/documentation for them

like, for example, introduce a tune for maximum vel without being affected by friction @TsFreddie

the friction is being done like every tick so it is pretty harsh even at 0.9, 0.95

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:20 PM

it should be done every tick tho

it is physics after all

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:20 PM

yeah

but even at pretty low numbers it is quite harsh

so a maximum vel without being affected by it might help?

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:21 PM

thats why you need higher accel to counter it

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:21 PM

well, it IS supposed to be a trap...

but for the sake of tuning I might as well add it as a tune value with 0 default?

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:26 PM

emm.

how to you move with 0 accel

i'm not saying add it on top of air accel

replace it

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:28 PM

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:28 PM

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:31 PM

what value do you think it would have?

TsFreddie 23-Sep-20 10:35 PM

higher than air accel lower than ground accel i think

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 10:59 PM

@Zatline yo have u tested the water yet? (edited)

Zatline 23-Sep-20 11:00 PM

ya did test it yesterday togheter with @Ravie

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 11:00 PM

ooh, fancy

opinions?

Ravie 23-Sep-20 11:01 PM

@Stiopa it would be great if the pressure increased the deeper you go

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 11:02 PM

Zatline 23-Sep-20 11:02 PM

also I feel the pressure at the surface feels a bit too strong

Stiopa 23-Sep-20 11:02 PM

I could try to make a function that would calculate the depth of the user in water and use it to scale... but it would not be simple

considering it would be hard to calculate the pressure in a water cave where you don't have air above, only ground

alternatively, more tiles could be added to simulate the "Depth"

but changes would probably be abrupt and noticable

btw. I added an alternative Diving gear swimming mechanic today, one that is steered with your cursor and space, instead of left-right and space

(on by default, but can be disabled by tune liq_div_gear_curs_swim)

and now that it is hosted by @TsFreddie at 194.124.32.240:8303 it is much easier to test

TsFreddie 24-Sep-20 01:04 AM

hmm

TsFreddie 24-Sep-20 01:51 AM

is teeworlds.com down

Patiga 24-Sep-20 02:17 AM

down for me

TsFreddie 24-Sep-20 02:19 AM

sad

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 08:41 AM

#0.8byNewYear

ReiTW 24-Sep-20 10:49 AM

magnus now working for microsoft

bill gates is happy now

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 11:31 AM

Microsoft buying teeworlds is a matter of time now

ReiTW 24-Sep-20 11:32 AM

incoming

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 12:01 PM

I could make a IsFloating() function that checks if you are standing on top of some water pixels and have some of your body parts in air sounds like a challenge to code but could be done?

@Stiopa also would be nice if there will be another function that will tell how much body is immersed into a water to calculate a buoyancy right.

that way it will not require a boolean check and still will be more realistic in behavior, without suddens steps in buoyancy as it's now with tune_zones (edited)

with addition of water friction it will remove all bobbing effects

and still it will be a school-level arithmetic

oh and immersion ration should be applied to friction too

or a body will never pop out of water

It seems that I've crashed a 194.124.32.240:8303 by trying to join it. Map is downloaded but then it's stopped working

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 12:58 PM

You crashed it completely? @Pure_luck

How do you know?

@TsFreddie has it crashed?

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 01:27 PM

Maybe I didn't crashed it. But server allowed me to download a map but don't allow me to go any further. (edited)

I don't know what's going on. Maybe server is whitelisting ips for joining the game, nicknames or versions but still allows to download a map.

Tried ddnet, f-client, vanilla 0.7.

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 02:13 PM

U need the water client @Pure_luck

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 02:15 PM

ah

it would be great if the pressure increased the deeper you go

Buoyancy? @Ravie I don't think pressure will affect to anything else in game

Teeworlds water PR after 9999 iterations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ureGelZPi3o

Moby Motion

Lifelike Fluid Simulations

This is my second compilation, showcasing my favourite fluid simulations on YouTube. I wanted this one to be even more realistic, so I haven't included OpenGL clips like last time, only rendered clips. I looked for the most realistic and lifelike clips I could find, and mainly...

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 02:33 PM

Lmao yeah

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 02:34 PM

pressure kills you slowly :o

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 02:37 PM

Even more death? Yday we upped the dmg rate

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 02:37 PM

just a random brain fart.

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 02:38 PM

Have u been to the test serv yet?

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 02:45 PM

no, havent started the game in a while.

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:03 PM

nobody will search for a github link here to try

you could start giving it along with a test server ip every time you post it (edited)

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:37 PM

I don't post the ip and the download link so far apart usually I think

http://www.mediafire.com/file/pmgq77kqe0dc3l5/teeworldswater.zip/file

https://github.com/Stiopa866/teeworlds/tree/harpoon

here's the build @Pure_luck

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:37 PM

no github?

I don't like builds

I am a paranoid linux user

I build anything I run.

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:44 PM

ah

yeah it's windows :D

https://github.com/Matodor/TeeSharp/

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Stiopa866/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

this one is ahead by two commits but they should not cause incompatibility :)

@Pure_luck

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:46 PM

thanks

Delta unpack failed

I am not in game

though I see your chat message in the console

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:48 PM

huh

I see u ingame

i can interact with your char

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:49 PM

nice for you

I still see connecting screen

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:49 PM

not so nice for you

hmm

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:50 PM

yeah )

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:50 PM

well, it's the newest built

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:50 PM

but I think that does not matter much

as it affects only testing

and maybe only linux build dunno

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:50 PM

hmm

can I have github checks for my commits? :d

Learath2 24-Sep-20 04:51 PM

Sure

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:51 PM

delta unpacking... delta unpacking... is that an issue with NetObjects?

Learath2 24-Sep-20 04:51 PM

It is

It can happen with objects of wrong size

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:52 PM

weird that windows build is not affected

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:52 PM

^

can u check ur editor

and the game layer

if the extra tiles are there?

Learath2 24-Sep-20 04:53 PM

Snap issues are a PITA to debug btw

1

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:53 PM

what's the name of a map?

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:53 PM

it should be in the game layer of any map

Learath2 24-Sep-20 04:53 PM

You'll want to add dbg_msgs in the unpacking

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:53 PM

I want to check if map downloaded correctly too

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:53 PM

map = polygon

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:54 PM

polygon

found it

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:55 PM

yep that is definitely not the build

are u sure u are building on the harpoon branch and not master?

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 04:55 PM

hm... strangely it's a master

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 04:55 PM

that must be it then

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:00 PM

works

looks nice so far

great job

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 05:00 PM

thanks

it's mostly for physic testing atm

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:03 PM

How long are you programming in C/C++ Stiopa?

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 05:04 PM

for about a year

but most of that time was algorithmics, basics and console applications with strings

tried some zesc rewrite in the summer

and now this

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a gerdoe 24-Sep-20 05:11 PM

@Stiopa eh, why didnt github compile your branch... xd

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:12 PM

maybe gotta activate github actions somewhere?

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:21 PM

github have a pretty small quota for free accounts

so I'd not bothered with github actions if you're not on a paid one

Learath2 24-Sep-20 05:21 PM

2000 minutes per month isn't too bad

DDNet and Teeworlds both use free accounts, I don't think either project ever ran into the limit

1 minute of macOS is 10 minutes, 1 minute of windows is 2 minutes though

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:28 PM

lol, how many commits do you push...

maybe not push every commit :D?

if you reach that limit at all

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:29 PM

I've ran into that limit pretty fast

but maybe that's because infCroya project actions config file has too many things to do after each commit

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:30 PM

maybe comment out the macOS build, as it's nearoy the same as Linux

nearly

Learath2 24-Sep-20 05:31 PM

You can also set up [skip-ci] so some commits don't get built at all

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:31 PM

for the initial high frequency of commits period

interesting

maybe not rebuild when you update the readme.md

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:31 PM

As I mod and build server only I don't really need github actions to build something for me

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:32 PM

:D

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:32 PM

also I don't that much need CI as I don't have tests and don't know how to write them for a teeworlds mod

coming from a web dev world having a project without specs is weird for me

I wish I could make acceptance tests for my mod

so I could spend less time arranging manual tests

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:33 PM

tw testing ._. should be pushed more

especially in vanilla

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:34 PM

though I appreciate that in C++ world most things just work or broken

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:34 PM

xD, I always assume that something is broken

even if it works

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:34 PM

I mean most errors are catched compiler stage

but not behavioral ones

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:34 PM

nullptr dereference

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:34 PM

so no TDD could be used and no acceptance tests

most )

address corruptions and useless coredumps are driving me crazy

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:35 PM

I used to run my server in gdb

while players played

helped

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:35 PM

when they play -- right

if they play once a week it's more difficult

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:36 PM

basically always until

you have it somewhat stable

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:36 PM

yes, at least I use now chillerbot to test some things locally

for stability at least

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:37 PM

once players join and somehow crash it, you can directly debug it, or you ise tue core dumps.

use the

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:37 PM

yeah, just my coredumps are useless

and I cannot afford to run server in gdb

because once it's crashed I need to restart immediately

or mod will lose this week playtime

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:38 PM

coredumps are not useless when you ask some awesome person like guenstigwerben, who is awesome at debugging that :D

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:38 PM

well, I know how to debug coredump

the're not useless in general, definetely not

but sometimes they just point to obviously wrong places

or obscure ones giving no clue why it has crashed there

though it should not crash there, perfectly safe code

memory corruption issues -- it crash too late

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:39 PM

You should then switch your stacktrace layer

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:39 PM

not, it's not on stacktrace

imagine destroying array and then accessing in at different place

you will have nothing useful in backtrace

just perfectly normal code

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:40 PM

ok, that's logical errors, kinda hard to find

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:40 PM

I've tried to turn on ASAN to check for memory corruption, but somehow it prevents core dump to be created

so I'm stuck atm

I just live with my mod crashing 0-2 times a day

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 05:41 PM

just riddle your code with if checks :d

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:41 PM

for start I don't know where to add them

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:41 PM

I had a great approach

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:41 PM

I've added those checks to where coredump points me

and it's ok there

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:41 PM

dbg_msg everywhere about the current states of stuff.

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:41 PM

so just coredump doesn't point to the right place

I will I think

but I'd better invest into switching into teesharp

I've never had those deeply obscure problems in Unity development

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:42 PM

teesharp D:?

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:42 PM

yeah

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:42 PM

the heck?

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:42 PM

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:42 PM

I'm confused

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:42 PM

Matodor/TeeSharp

Implementation of Teeworlds server in .NET Core. Contribute to Matodor/TeeSharp development by creating an account on GitHub.

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:43 PM

that's ein ther a pun

either

or real

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:43 PM

teeworlds 0.6 rewritten in C#

I think for those reasons too

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:43 PM

lol, that's cool

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:43 PM

and there is one mod based on that mLife

but devs are burned up atm

and I am trying to encourage them to continue

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:44 PM

send money or coffee

xD

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 05:44 PM

I will x) (edited)

or antidepressants dunno

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 05:44 PM

teeworlds servers in different languages is cool

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 06:40 PM

also wdym you haven't started the game in a while

blasphemy! @jxsl13

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 06:46 PM

24hours

Pure_luck 24-Sep-20 07:09 PM

have you suffered from withdrawal?

having not played tw this much

what's even life looks like outside of tw?

is there such a thing or was it like a blackout to emptyness, bro?

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 07:35 PM

suicidal thoughts

mostly

xD

kidding

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 08:27 PM

yo

anyone else feeling the snow animation on this server feels... wrong?

a bit laggy

compared to other servers

I am worried that this is a me-only thing. ;p

unsigned char* 24-Sep-20 10:12 PM

Joined the server.

Hello people!

1

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 10:22 PM

I remember you from the forums

(edited)

1

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 10:29 PM

he has arrived!

welcome to the hub of teeworlds, where we discuss water among other things @unsigned char*

unsigned char* 24-Sep-20 11:01 PM

jxsl13 ... you didn't say "hello" in the forum post

Stiopa 24-Sep-20 11:21 PM

updated water github. no more falling like a rock. you do not fall anymore xd

maybe I should just make it 0.05 of grav

yeah that will be it until I go back to physics (now I am doing a water layer, which is quite complicated)

today I lazed a bit ^^

jxsl13 24-Sep-20 11:39 PM

I mean some forum posts like 5 years ago :0.

hello here then!

*pridy* 25-Sep-20 12:27 AM

Joined the server.

Classicoke 25-Sep-20 12:33 AM

is da wer online??

Paphlagon 25-Sep-20 02:19 AM

Joined the server.

Question! How can I get some mild moderator privileges on DDNet? I'm on there enough, it might help some of the annoying, game stopping blocking going on the novice maps by just a few noobs. Who might I talk to about that? Anyone know?

TsFreddie 25-Sep-20 02:23 AM

https://ddnet.tw/discord

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Stiopa 25-Sep-20 09:09 AM

cyberfighter 25-Sep-20 10:49 AM

wow i hope ddnet has water too

kara 25-Sep-20 11:14 AM

Joined the server.

=3Matias=3👻็็็ 25-Sep-20 03:09 PM

Joined the server.

Pure_luck 25-Sep-20 03:35 PM

is there any way to tell 0.7 client that there are no characters collisions?

hm... there are player_collision too

just my vanilla ignores it for some reason, ok

is there a client console command to list all effective tunes received from a server?

redix 25-Sep-20 03:45 PM

dbg_tuning 1 I think

You cannot change tuning in vanilla game modes

Pure_luck 25-Sep-20 03:48 PM

It's not vanilla mode

ddnet client receives right tune, just teeworlds doesn't

I want to debug it

redix 25-Sep-20 03:50 PM

Based on ddnet + bridge or 0.7?

I experienced some issues with tunings on the ddnet bridge

Pure_luck 25-Sep-20 03:52 PM

yeah, Sixup layer is not ideal

so some things are usually fixed by Learath2 as I find it

woah. Teeworlds server receives some tunings wrong, Now I think I can investigate it

thanks for a tip on dbg_tuning

Maybe there should be this command here https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_tuning

As I've searched for something that related to tuning first

and didn't found it where I though it belongs

redix 25-Sep-20 03:58 PM

But as far as I remember only the last two tuning params don't work (the collision ones)

unsigned char* 25-Sep-20 03:59 PM

Teeworlds server it's a "black box" for the client with some things... :/ but i don't know the new changes on the source... maybe something was change...

You want change collisions on server or client (ghost)?

Switcher 25-Sep-20 05:00 PM

Joined the server.

Hi all, who can explain me how to create fng serv ? (eng or fr pls)

Learath2 25-Sep-20 05:05 PM

I think most everyone is running @noby's fork of fng2 nowadays. https://github.com/nobody-mb/teeworlds-fng2-mod

nobody-mb/teeworlds-fng2-mod

FNG mod for teeworlds, that advances the original FNG idea by golden spikes and other features - nobody-mb/teeworlds-fng2-mod

noby 25-Sep-20 05:05 PM

thats 2yrs+ old version

Learath2 25-Sep-20 05:05 PM

Though I'm not sure how up to date he keeps the github version. Maybe Jupeyyy's fork is more up to date now

Yeah see ^^

noby 25-Sep-20 05:05 PM

https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod

Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod

FNG mod for teeworlds, that advances the original FNG idea by golden spikes and other features - Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod

the servers not owned by me are running this^

Learath2 25-Sep-20 05:06 PM

@noby is it possible for us to get your mod to also use the antibot blob so we can open source yours?

noby 25-Sep-20 05:06 PM

whatd be the point

Learath2 25-Sep-20 05:06 PM

is Jupeyy's better?

I thought yours was kept more up to date

noby 25-Sep-20 05:07 PM

depends what u mean by better, the fork u posted has very simple (but sortof buggy) anti cheat and also stats

but most people who want to setup a fng server dont really care about that stuff

also the mod im running now is sortof messy in the sense that it generates a lot of debug/logfiles and uses functions that only work on *nix and other things that would probably make it less appealing to someoen who just wanted a normal server

b0th 25-Sep-20 05:14 PM

Joined the server.

ReiTW 25-Sep-20 05:42 PM

I think his version is kept up to date but privately, since antibot is also private

noby 25-Sep-20 05:43 PM

ye that too

since it is still in progress its easier to have a private repo where i dont have to worry about separating the antibot and keeping the code clean and commented

TsFreddie 25-Sep-20 06:03 PM

Jupstar ✪ 25-Sep-20 07:34 PM

"also stats"? what do u mean @noby

noby 25-Sep-20 07:34 PM

persistent stats

that save across rounds

Jupstar ✪ 25-Sep-20 07:35 PM

mine is btw based on vanilla teeworlds, so it wont work for 0.7 and 0.6

noby 25-Sep-20 07:35 PM

(it needs a rewrite tbh with sql)

Jupstar ✪ 25-Sep-20 07:35 PM

like nobys does

noby 25-Sep-20 07:35 PM

mine is based on ddnet 10.8 with 0.7 compatibility code patched in, mostly from timakros unique server

Stiopa 25-Sep-20 07:40 PM

waow, pretty

TsFreddie 25-Sep-20 07:41 PM

is there a fixed link for downloading the latest client?

for ddnet or teeworlds or both.

Jupstar ✪ 25-Sep-20 08:04 PM

for ddnet there is: https://ddnet.tw/downloads/DDNet-nightly-win64.zip

its build once per day i think

for teeworlds you could sort by date: https://downloads.teeworlds.com/

(or generally parse the string)

TsFreddie 25-Sep-20 08:07 PM

Stiopa 25-Sep-20 08:58 PM

attempt to add water layer no.1 failed

will retry in the future maybe

Stiopa 25-Sep-20 09:33 PM

@TsFreddie can u update the server?

some fixes were made

TsFreddie 25-Sep-20 09:34 PM

k

Stiopa 25-Sep-20 09:34 PM

now I am going to begin work on new physics reiteration (edited)

TsFreddie 25-Sep-20 09:34 PM

5 mins

TsFreddie 25-Sep-20 10:07 PM

@Stiopa done

Stiopa 25-Sep-20 10:08 PM

wonderful

I am a bit confounded rn as to how I should reorganize the code

Do you guys think that tees w/o diving gear should have any means of getting back to the surface in water besides hook & floating up?

Ravie 25-Sep-20 10:30 PM

they should just sink

that way if you put infinite water at the bottom of a map you can't just float to the map edge and camp

Learath2 25-Sep-20 10:41 PM

So tees are denser than water?

Zatline 25-Sep-20 10:54 PM

make sure that tees feel somewhat the same regardless of having diving gear or not if A: tee with no gear floats B: tee with gear shouldn't just sink like a rock (edited)

TsFreddie 25-Sep-20 11:16 PM

anyone seen this happen before?

only happened once with my textrender rework. can't reproduce it, it is driving me nuts

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 12:00 AM

@Zatline atm it is very light sinking with diving gear

and very light swimming up with diving gear (jump) (edited)

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 01:39 AM

@Ravie there shouldn't be a map with an endless ocean tbh

Ravie 26-Sep-20 01:40 AM

yeah but sooner or later someone will make it

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 01:40 AM

Hmm

That's a similar case with collision too

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 01:50 AM

We will come up with a solution in due time

For now I will keep experimentings

Skayland 26-Sep-20 05:36 AM

I want topdown teeworlds

=3Matias=3👻็็็ 26-Sep-20 02:56 PM

Joined the server.

anyone talk spanish?

heinrich5991 26-Sep-20 02:58 PM

this is an english server, no spanish please

unsigned char* 26-Sep-20 03:23 PM

Me speak spanish

heinrich5991 hi bro!

heinrich5991 26-Sep-20 03:25 PM

hi @unsigned char*, are you the unsigned char* ?

unsigned char* 26-Sep-20 03:27 PM

yes! the old crazy pointer... continuing doing stupid stuff

Touch the old crew! @Dune @Fisico @heinrich5991 @jxsl13 @Learath2 @magnet @Ryozuki @Zatline ufff too many people in this channel O_o (edited)

heinrich5991 26-Sep-20 03:32 PM

heh nice

welcome

1

I remember your minetee stuff ^^

jxsl13 26-Sep-20 03:33 PM

1

Carmine Zono comes to mind. hm, he was Italian. (edited)

Fisico 26-Sep-20 03:38 PM

welcome @unsigned char*

1

Learath2 26-Sep-20 03:52 PM

Oh, @unsigned char* is back

1

Dune 26-Sep-20 03:55 PM

cheers @unsigned char*

1

Ryozuki 26-Sep-20 04:10 PM

hi

1

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 04:57 PM

yo @Zatline were you able to see custom graphics on the server?

or @Ravie

(bubbles, hud)

Ravie 26-Sep-20 04:59 PM

yeah

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 05:00 PM

one more question, compiled yourself or used the download link I was giving previously? @Ravie

Ravie 26-Sep-20 05:00 PM

I used the painfully slow download

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 05:48 PM

yo @TsFreddie, available? :)

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 05:48 PM

what do you need

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 05:50 PM

might want to update the server soon

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 05:50 PM

ok

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 05:51 PM

with a new map too

noby 26-Sep-20 05:56 PM

i remember the @unsigned char* anti bot library thingy

Iman 26-Sep-20 06:45 PM

why do some letters are coloured now ? like in ppl nicknames or clans

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 06:47 PM

screenshot?

Iman 26-Sep-20 06:49 PM

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 06:49 PM

Gamer Client?

Iman 26-Sep-20 06:49 PM

y

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 06:50 PM

I don't know, but I guess they customized it in their gamer clients?

both of them seem to be using the G client indicated by the G?

Attachment: ctf_pond.map (6.23 KB)

please add this to the map database <3 @TsFreddie

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 06:52 PM

ok

can i pull now

Iman 26-Sep-20 06:52 PM

hidden option cl_text_colors seems to work :0

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 06:52 PM

not yet. I think I want to add more stuff before test (edited)

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 06:52 PM

ShootXen 26-Sep-20 07:28 PM

dune will remove that feature with the next version of the gamerclient (edited)

Iman 26-Sep-20 07:30 PM

why ?

ShootXen 26-Sep-20 07:31 PM

he told me the reason but can't remember anymore

Iman 26-Sep-20 07:31 PM

:|

ShootXen 26-Sep-20 07:31 PM

but he should keep

how to use colors? (edited)

^rShootXen

r=red b=blue p=purple etc.

but dune forgot that feature when he ported his client to 0.7 (edited)

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 07:44 PM

why do you need that

ShootXen 26-Sep-20 07:45 PM

because :it_cool:

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 07:45 PM

ShootXen 26-Sep-20 07:45 PM

you show up with a red name in the blue team as well for everyone else that uses gamerclient

or blue in red team

minor flaws

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 07:46 PM

i'll stick with vanilla for now.

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 07:47 PM

what could cause content.py not to work? :/ (edited)

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 07:48 PM

a lot of things

:/ does not build log say anything

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 07:48 PM

ah it worked when I used the build (edited)

hmm

but I swear I could run it via .py!

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 07:49 PM

well

it is designed as part of the build process i suppose

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 08:20 PM

@TsFreddie you may build now

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 08:22 PM

@Stiopa done

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 08:22 PM

wonderful

do you want to test it ingame?

I seem to have connection issues

ok I think it's because I was playing on the binary I opened on winrar

ping's ok now

nvm, still some issues. hmm

weird... anyhow

if anyone wants to test the water build, the source can be fetched from (compilation may have issues with graphics): https://github.com/Stiopa866/teeworlds/tree/harpoon alternatively, you can download the binaries from here (only windows, but the graphics should 100% work): http://www.mediafire.com/file/pmgq77kqe0dc3l5/teeworldswater.zip/file The server for testing is on ip: 194.124.32.240:8303 and you need to type "connect 194.124.32.240:8303" in console to connect. Maps available with water are ctf_pond and polygon, the latter having diving gear. Password for mod rcon is "moderator" and it allows to tune values & change maps

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Stiopa866/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU-NrfB8Kd4

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 08:49 PM

@TsFreddie can u view if the cpu usage is high on the serv?

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 08:57 PM

seems fine

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 08:59 PM

strange, there are ping issues

@TsFreddie

would u be able to run a vani server on 8304

so that I can test if I screwed something up or if it is host issue

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 09:01 PM

i'll download the client and take a look

might just be a bad server

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 09:03 PM

well, it worked previously?

good ping was had b4

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 09:08 PM

yea, it wasn't a big cloud service or anything

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 09:08 PM

the server crashed?

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 09:09 PM

what

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 09:09 PM

can't connect

lol

nvm

back on it

it timed me out

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 09:09 PM

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 09:09 PM

and I couldn't connect for a bit

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 09:11 PM

ben & jerry baked alaska is so good

kisteklak 26-Sep-20 10:20 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 10:25 PM

@Zatline informing about the new version here in case you missed it ^^ https://discordapp.com/channels/407308363031117832/407308363031117834/759483298774515713

Zatline 26-Sep-20 10:25 PM

ya was just downloading it

hype

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 10:58 PM

@TsFreddie could you add this map too?

Attachment: ctf56.map (10.17 KB)

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 10:58 PM

done

you can change it in f2

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 11:00 PM

oh, and one more thing

one more map update

Attachment: polygon.map (1.88 KB)

TsFreddie 26-Sep-20 11:14 PM

done

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 11:19 PM

wunderbar

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 11:44 PM

@Zatline well, wiht the cursor moving I imagined tee rotating in the direction of the cursor :d

@Ravie could not get in?

Zatline 26-Sep-20 11:45 PM

that sounds interesting @Stiopa

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 11:47 PM

ye but we are not going with that style are we

Ravie 26-Sep-20 11:50 PM

@Stiopa ye I can't connect

or wait I'm stupid, that's the unmodified client xD

Stiopa 26-Sep-20 11:53 PM

get the latest one :d

Stiopa 27-Sep-20 12:06 AM

ye u just crashed me thx @Ravie

thx will look into it

Stiopa 27-Sep-20 01:27 AM

cursor oriented swimming found their supporters. lol

HoodedBoi 27-Sep-20 01:28 AM

Joined the server.

uhhh i just saw this game on steam, looks interesting. : P

Stiopa 27-Sep-20 01:30 AM

it's fantastic

HoodedBoi 27-Sep-20 01:32 AM

and the game probably has the same artstyle taste as mine

soo uh

is this game ded?

Dune 27-Sep-20 01:34 AM

It's very old at least ;) give it a try

HoodedBoi 27-Sep-20 01:38 AM

uh k...?

Stiopa 27-Sep-20 01:40 AM

@Zatline changed the delay between animations for the bubble. 0.2->0.1 ms

definitely smoother

I think that next on the agenda are more maps to test water in

HoodedBoi 27-Sep-20 01:44 AM

hmm.

i watched some gameplay

Levan

Teeworlds Gameplay

Teeworlds Gameplay Fun little open-source game, clearly it is not COD but it will help you pass some time. This is the first time I am playing this game so I do suck at it. you can download this game from the official website https://www.teeworlds.com/ Please take a look at...

and it looks

kinda good : )

Stiopa 27-Sep-20 01:47 AM

I begun in 2013, and I am still having great fun with this game to this day

and there are people playing for far longer

HoodedBoi 27-Sep-20 01:47 AM

sooo uh ye just checking out this community

hope it stays alive

Dune 27-Sep-20 11:38 AM

It'd be quicker to download it and give it a try, it's like 12MB :)

VekiPro 27-Sep-20 01:11 PM

https://youtu.be/3EwUKkXkiq4

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Tezcan 27-Sep-20 07:56 PM

huge skill right there

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 07:59 PM

@Tezcan troll :D

Tezcan 27-Sep-20 07:59 PM

me? never

Stiopa 27-Sep-20 07:59 PM

everyone started somewhere

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:00 PM

I wonder if the gamer client has a ghost feature, that would be nice. might make racing easier.

Tezcan 27-Sep-20 08:01 PM

ghost doesn't make racing easier, but yea nice feature to have

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:02 PM

I mean, you would not have to remember when what to do, just follow your ghost and probably improve your run, slightly, but surely.

redix 27-Sep-20 08:02 PM

I ported them to 0.7 at the beginning of the year but never released it :O

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:02 PM

:0

:O

TsFreddie 27-Sep-20 08:03 PM

F-client might have it

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:03 PM

:( )

Tezcan 27-Sep-20 08:03 PM

jxsl!! ghost can be really distracting, i know some pros who delete their ghost

redix 27-Sep-20 08:03 PM

As far as I know no public client has it yet

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:04 PM

well, maybe one day, when I'm a "pro" (HA funny) racer, I might do the same.

Tezcan 27-Sep-20 08:04 PM

no f-client doesnt have it

:/

redix make new sushi client thx

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:04 PM

pls

Tezcan 27-Sep-20 08:04 PM

hahh

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:04 PM

best client ever

until you get banned on fng :3

TsFreddie 27-Sep-20 08:04 PM

:/

does ddnet have that

Tezcan 27-Sep-20 08:05 PM

yes

redix 27-Sep-20 08:05 PM

I'll upgrade my code to latest 0.7 code and probably do a PR to gamer and f-client then. Not interested in releasing my own client

2

Tezcan 27-Sep-20 08:06 PM

also do a speedometer!!

i miss that

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:06 PM

add speedos

TsFreddie 27-Sep-20 08:07 PM

i want my own client solely because IME is a bitch. i can only do some hackery to get IME working. so i can release it in china

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:08 PM

what is IME

mandarin keyboard stuff?

TsFreddie 27-Sep-20 08:08 PM

the thing that pops up when you type cjk. input method editor

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 08:08 PM

ok

TsFreddie 27-Sep-20 08:10 PM

i usually just steal features from other clients and stuff in optimization for chinese

havent done that in a while

Stiopa 27-Sep-20 08:15 PM

what about ghosts in vanilla one may enable/disable?

not a chance? :p

TsFreddie 27-Sep-20 08:26 PM

Stiopa 27-Sep-20 08:28 PM

I mean, some race support is being added after all

jxsl13 27-Sep-20 10:13 PM

true that

redix 27-Sep-20 10:55 PM

well... the file format used for the ghosts isn't optimal. It's only capable of storing the path for one tee. It's limited, unflexible, but the files are small and the whole thing works pretty well. And since we have a bit more info about the race state, the code isn't as ugly as it was in 0.6

redix 28-Sep-20 12:09 AM

Updated ghost code to tw master. In case someone wants to test: https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds/tree/ghost The UI is still WIP

http://www.mediafire.com/file/pmgq77kqe0dc3l5/teeworldswater.zip/file

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to axblk/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Dune 28-Sep-20 01:20 AM

@redix gladly, though I didn't update to master for a while

1

redix 28-Sep-20 01:26 AM

I'll need some more time to finish the ui anyway Since it's mostly self-contained, it should even be kinda easy to downgrade it to an older code-base

Elkyradefuego 28-Sep-20 12:08 PM

Joined the server.

Teks 28-Sep-20 02:01 PM

Joined the server.

Paphlagon 29-Sep-20 03:40 AM

Anyone here able to offer some moderator privileges? I'd love to kick the blockers on these crowded novice maps.

Souly 29-Sep-20 03:42 AM

@Paphlagon https://discord.gg/22sqGcB

Paphlagon 29-Sep-20 03:43 AM

Thanks!

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Danil (in-game "furry guy") 29-Sep-20 01:02 PM

Joined the server.

Sakido 29-Sep-20 01:04 PM

Joined the server.

小鱼干China,Mr.k 29-Sep-20 05:41 PM

Joined the server.

! ❰G❱ MD 29-Sep-20 08:48 PM

Joined the server.

! ❰G❱ Mɾ Eʅҽɳσɾ 🌹 29-Sep-20 08:48 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 29-Sep-20 10:04 PM

@TsFreddie yo can u update the server?

SPiRiT 29-Sep-20 11:14 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 12:29 AM

@Zatline water is looking very optimistic. :) (edited)

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can't wait to show the next version...

sadly TsFreddie is away

let's say I managed to deal with the projectiles in water in a satisfactory way

Zatline 30-Sep-20 12:32 AM

that sounds exciting

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 12:32 AM

it is

Zatline 30-Sep-20 12:32 AM

u guys collaborated?

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 12:33 AM

nah, I did the thing solo

it's just that TsFreddie hosts the serv

so I need him to have it updated

to the latest version

and unfortunately, no man is available 24/7

Zatline 30-Sep-20 12:34 AM

so u saying u slowly turning into a code wizard

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 12:34 AM

wouldn't say so

my solution is what you call a "hack" I suppose

I think so, at least

Zatline 30-Sep-20 12:34 AM

sounds evil

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 12:35 AM

can you or Ravie host a server?

to test the new stuff

I wish to show it today if possible :d

Zatline 30-Sep-20 12:36 AM

@Ravie could ya I don't know how to do server

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 12:38 AM

https://discord.gg/28RDRB

should be updated with new binaries

whenever TsFreddie goes online, I am sure he will update the public server

and I will advertise new stuff in the morning I suppose

Ravie 30-Sep-20 12:38 AM

sure tho my server doesn't always wanna show up

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 12:39 AM

we can always do connect "ip"

Ravie 30-Sep-20 12:39 AM

well no, that's the problem

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 12:39 AM

like it is done with the TsFreddie's one

Attachment: polygon.map (1.9 KB)

make sure to have the map

on your serv

u mean your server is not connectable to sometimes?

surely this will work, right?

Ravie 30-Sep-20 12:42 AM

it should be up

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 12:44 AM

@Zatline "No Secrets Here"

TsFreddie 30-Sep-20 01:17 AM

@Stiopa

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 01:21 AM

Huh

Vs didn't return the error

ThxI @TsFreddie

NanoK 30-Sep-20 04:21 AM

HOLA

bacàsable 30-Sep-20 12:40 PM

Joined the server.

Hi, i don't get any serverlist when i first start the game

i don't have any firewall filtering outgoing connection

how does the game get his serverlist ?

➜ cd .local/share/teeworlds/ 12:31:42 .local/share/teeworlds ➜ tree 12:41:49 . ├── configs ├── demos │ └── auto ├── downloadedmaps ├── dumps ├── maps ├── masters.cfg ├── screenshots │ └── auto ├── serverlist.json ├── settings07.cfg ├── skins └── ui_settings.json 9 directories, 4 files .local/share/teeworlds ➜ cat serverlist.json 12:41:51 { "serverlist": [ ] }

Liwa²⁴ 30-Sep-20 12:47 PM

Joined the server.

Kondensator 30-Sep-20 12:57 PM

Joined the server.

HoodedBoi 30-Sep-20 03:01 PM

hey uh guys

so i decided to try out the game

soo uh

how do i run the game? : P

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 03:07 PM

Wdym how do u run the game

U use the exe

Unless you downloaded the src

HoodedBoi 30-Sep-20 03:09 PM

nvm

i dunnit

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 03:12 PM

What is ur os

HoodedBoi 30-Sep-20 03:21 PM

windows

i allready got the game running tho

HoodedBoi 30-Sep-20 03:29 PM

holy crap it's good

4

HoodedBoi 30-Sep-20 03:52 PM

i didn't get to play any ctf or pvp stuff (cus theyr'e literally empty), the ddrace stuff was gud : )

that was one hell of a game

anyways, uh

was there any gud players back in the day?

lemme guess they left the game : P

Iman 30-Sep-20 03:55 PM

there is still some good players, and if you're a bit patient and curious you can find pvp stuff ;)

HoodedBoi 30-Sep-20 04:07 PM

~~Now that i played the game i wish demoman tf2's Loch-n-load worked like teeworld's grenade launcher XD~~ (edited)

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 04:10 PM

There is still a pretty sizable scene of teeworlds pro players but it had been greater

There are often pretty good players playing ctf5

It's been decreasing a bit due to a few factors though

1) Teeworlds attracts less players nowadays

2) Players whi join the game often flock to communities like DDrace or BW instead of seeking improvement in vanilla

3) Pro players of the past are usually students or adults with lives and jobs and hence they don't always have the time

4) Entry bar to the pro field tends to be quite high

ShootXen 30-Sep-20 04:51 PM

join fng, casual

Quixe 30-Sep-20 07:08 PM

Joined the server.

hello someone play(hola alguien juega)

NanoK 30-Sep-20 08:22 PM

quien esta jugando?

heinrich5991 30-Sep-20 08:34 PM

@bacàsable the game gets its server list via UDP from the master servers

master1,2,3,4.teeworlds.com (edited)

Stiopa 30-Sep-20 08:39 PM

question

if the game can't load a sprite set

does it load the game one instead?

it doesn't want to load my gorgeous programmer art...

a gerdoe 30-Sep-20 09:11 PM

@bacàsable client can't load serverbrowser, yes?

NanoK 01-Oct-20 08:16 AM

ShootXen 01-Oct-20 02:33 PM

Ban remove link, no one supports block. Sorrry mate but you are wrong here

Kallemy 01-Oct-20 03:37 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 01-Oct-20 04:08 PM

hate speech

Stiopa 01-Oct-20 04:10 PM

Block speech

HoodedBoi 01-Oct-20 04:26 PM

soo yeah uh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSgp5qI63to

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jxsl13 01-Oct-20 05:12 PM

F4

Stiopa 01-Oct-20 10:24 PM

@Zatline marvel at my art.

jxsl13 01-Oct-20 10:38 PM

xD

looks funny

Stiopa 01-Oct-20 10:40 PM

placeholder art ftw

it works for now

well

IT WOULD WORK IF TEEWORLDS WOULD LOAD THE DAMN FILE

>:(

this one I have only achieved by replacing game.png with other file (edited)

Stiopa 01-Oct-20 10:48 PM

I feel like the weapon sprites is always referencing game image

instead of the one I tell it to...

Zatline 02-Oct-20 12:37 AM

that is super odd

Zatline 02-Oct-20 01:00 AM

maybe @Dune knows a workaround perhaps it is worthy of an issue

Dune 02-Oct-20 01:13 AM

that's not a feature of teeworlds

that's a bug in his code

(most likely)

Zatline 02-Oct-20 01:20 AM

so what u saying it should be easily possible but since it isn't for @Stiopa there must be a bug in his code

Stiopa 02-Oct-20 05:41 AM

It can totally be a bug yeah

https://github.com/Stiopa866/teeworlds/tree/harpoon_weapon

https://discordapp.com/channels/407308363031117832/407308363031117834/762357851095564360

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My code for the harpoon weapon & Textures is stored here

(Due to some bugs and being quite unfinished I separated it from the "main" water branch) (edited)

I can't find the issue in network.py

Neither could IDLE find any python error...

I don't believe it is a file issue. harpoon.png works when it is the game.png...

I have an idea but I have to return home first

TsFreddie 03-Oct-20 05:20 PM

Learath2 03-Oct-20 05:34 PM

selfietime?

TsFreddie 03-Oct-20 05:35 PM

not really a selfie tho

[ɴ]Rieds.. 03-Oct-20 06:23 PM

Joined the server.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 04-Oct-20 10:19 AM

hello everyone, i am creating a lua file, and in this file i want to put a auto writer that write a command automatically, so i added the timer, and i just need to add the function who auto write. Someone knows how to create it ?

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 12:25 PM

lua bad.

you want to periodically execute teeworlds server commands? For example: periodic announcements?

Dune 04-Oct-20 12:35 PM

What kind of command?

Learath2 04-Oct-20 01:08 PM

I don't think anyone here is familiar with ATH's lua hooks

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 01:08 PM

I guess that is not even ath related.

Learath2 04-Oct-20 01:08 PM

He was working with ATH lua a couple weeks ago

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 01:09 PM

hm, ok, then gotta wait for a response, I guess.

a gerdoe 04-Oct-20 01:09 PM

ath has discord server, ig, he can ask for help there

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 06:20 PM

Joined the server.

Hi

I have a problem with teeworlds

And is that the aim cursos is sticked to my character body

And I don't know how to fix it

Any help or suggestion?

I can send an image of the problem if u want

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 04-Oct-20 06:26 PM

@a gerdoe what is the server of ATH ?

Stiopa 04-Oct-20 06:28 PM

@__Jalo__ is it only ingame or in menus as well?

like, does your mouse work in the menus?

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 06:35 PM

No

Only in gameplay

Wait

I send a photo

Do u see it?

The aim is IN my character

And if I didn't explained well is cause I'm from Spain xd

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 06:37 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 what do you want todo and where do you want to do it?

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 06:37 PM

@__Jalo__ is it only ingame or in menus as well?

@Stiopa ingame

.-.

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 04-Oct-20 06:48 PM

@jxsl13 what do you mean ?

Stiopa 04-Oct-20 06:51 PM

in f1

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 06:51 PM

I do not understand what you want to do with that lua stuff.

Stiopa 04-Oct-20 06:51 PM

what is your cl_max_mouse_distance_static

@__Jalo__

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 06:52 PM

Emm

Wait

Don't see it

Stiopa 04-Oct-20 06:55 PM

write that there

it should return the value

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 06:55 PM

Ok

It says (edited)

It doesn't exist the command (edited)

v:

The command is

It's what it days

Says*

I used that command

And it dead that the value is 1

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 06:59 PM

dead D:

said

Stiopa 04-Oct-20 06:59 PM

change it to 400 @__Jalo__

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 06:59 PM

cl_max_mouse_distance_static 400

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:00 PM

Ok :D

It says

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 07:01 PM

400

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:01 PM

It doesn't exist the command

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 07:01 PM

well

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:02 PM

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 07:02 PM

your photo says the opposite

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:02 PM

:v

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 07:02 PM

the one above

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:02 PM

No

It says first mouse

Then max

:vvv

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 07:02 PM

well, then use that

I just copied stiopa's command

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:03 PM

OMFG

THANKS U

SO MUCH

I LOVE U

I haven't played

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 07:04 PM

thank Stiopa

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:04 PM

For months

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 07:04 PM

D:

he the mvp

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:04 PM

@Stiopa THANK U SO MUCH

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 07:04 PM

now send money (edited)

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:04 PM

:v

No

jxsl13 04-Oct-20 07:04 PM

xD

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:04 PM

>:v

I havent played

For months

Like 3

And all because I wrote a command that someone said me

>:v

a gerdoe 04-Oct-20 07:07 PM

@𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 google it...

i found it https://allthehaxx.github.io/newdocs/lua_api.html

ATH Docs

why didn't you even google it...

__Jalo__ 04-Oct-20 07:35 PM

This is dead or it's only what I think :v

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 04-Oct-20 08:15 PM

@a gerdoe oh i already have it, but you talked about the discord server

Pure_luck 04-Oct-20 08:16 PM

Is teeworlds forum is a premoderated one?

I've submitted an announcement but don't see my post in a list.

If that's an error tell me and I will resubmit my announcement.

Stiopa 04-Oct-20 08:26 PM

@Pure_luck verification has been adopted I believe

quite recently

a gerdoe 04-Oct-20 08:38 PM

https://discord.com/invite/Zt2rSgJ

Pure_luck 04-Oct-20 08:44 PM

Why do they have a hanging penis instead of a logo?

Ah, got it. Viagra for non-skillful.

Smart

a gerdoe 04-Oct-20 08:45 PM

does T really look like penis (edited)

Pure_luck 04-Oct-20 09:46 PM

in that font yeah

Kaan.kun 05-Oct-20 08:25 AM

Joined the server.

hussainx3 05-Oct-20 12:04 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 05-Oct-20 05:22 PM

@TsFreddie home yet?

TsFreddie 05-Oct-20 05:22 PM

quarantining in shanghai

have to stay in quarantine zone for 14 days before i can go home

server update?

Stiopa 05-Oct-20 05:25 PM

yeah

soon, at least

TsFreddie 05-Oct-20 05:25 PM

ok

it is late in china tho.

i can do it tomorrow morning

jxsl13 05-Oct-20 05:41 PM

user account ._.

Stiopa 05-Oct-20 06:35 PM

question, what happened to teeworlds-stats.info?

Tezcan 05-Oct-20 06:43 PM

here you go : https://status.tw/

status.tw

A service for displaying and analyzing the status and statistics of Teeworlds servers and players

Stiopa 05-Oct-20 06:44 PM

so it just renamed?

@Tezcan

Tezcan 05-Oct-20 06:45 PM

yes

unsigned char* 05-Oct-20 08:34 PM

@Pure_luck ping!

Pure_luck 05-Oct-20 08:34 PM

woah

Stiopa 05-Oct-20 09:51 PM

dragging going well

tho not sure if this will be the perfect weapon, programming this is a learning experience nevertheless

@Zatline are there any specifics you expect from a harpoon weapon?

jxsl13 05-Oct-20 10:45 PM

harpoon nails a player to the opposite wall

louis 05-Oct-20 10:50 PM

wtf is a harpoon

sounds interesting, is it being added?

jxsl13 05-Oct-20 10:52 PM

stiopa is doing conceptual stuff

Stiopa 05-Oct-20 10:53 PM

@jxsl13 yoo that sounds cool

though I can imagine nailing someone to a wall is a bit strong

(the fact you can use harpoon to nail someone to a corner rn is too, but I plan to mend that by suggesting a bar for pulling)

louis 06-Oct-20 01:13 AM

wont a harpoon gun be similar to hook

also if u nail someone to a wall couldnt u harpoon them > hook them > travel with them

Rilla 06-Oct-20 02:53 AM

There was once a picture of all teeworlds files, where you could see which file is connected to the others. Does someone still got it?

Caique 06-Oct-20 05:45 AM

Joined the server.

Helloooooooo

Im Brazilian

And no know speak english

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 05:50 AM

@louis yes, indeed, but: harpoon deals dmg, travels fast, may bounce off unhookables and drags at a faster rate

At least in my concept

louis 06-Oct-20 05:52 AM

a weapon that bounces would be cool

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 05:56 AM

Indeed, it sounds cool

Tho laser does that ^^

Pure_luck 06-Oct-20 10:02 AM

If a harpoon bounce of the wall and grab somebody behind the corner will it bring him back? And if yes, will that happen In a straight line or by an old (bounced) path? Both seems to be weird. (edited)

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 10:05 AM

It will go in a straight path directed at owner char

Whether the harpoon is pulling is decided by player at will

Once the harpoon found its target, be it a character or ground, the holder may pull the victim/themselves via left click in a straight line

@Pure_luck

Pure_luck 06-Oct-20 10:11 AM

But if he catched anything behing a corner there will be no straight line.

Or harpoon ignores some of game physics?

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 10:12 AM

It will pull towards the player, even if a solid block is there

Pure_luck 06-Oct-20 10:12 AM

Ah... hook does that too. I've forgot that.

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 10:12 AM

This is obviously exploitable

Pure_luck 06-Oct-20 10:13 AM

At least I know that harpoon has a difference from hook. It's 90% same just bounces. Right?

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 10:13 AM

But I have a way to counteract that

It also deals 4 dmg on hit

Is affected by friction and gravity

Pure_luck 06-Oct-20 10:14 AM

Oh, it's ballistic.

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 10:14 AM

And pulls much more strongly

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 10:22 AM

Next up is the harpoon launcher. A new "sixth" weapon, dare I say, that may also be used outside water and one that shoots out a harpoon on a chain. The harpoon would travel at a relatively high velocity and would travel until it hits a character or a hookable tile. Should it hit an unhookable, it would reflect and continue with reduced velocity. (Badly drawn example of such:) Would the harpoon hit something, the harpoon sticks to it and awaits input or a change of weapon. If the harpoon doesn't hit anything (goes OOB) it will retract. The pulling power of harpoon is high, much higher than of the regular hook. This could make the pulled target rapidly approach the puller and, if missed, would just fling back much to pulled's dismay. Now, the pulling can be handled in many ways: Click to toggle pulling. Click once and pull without a way to stop.Use left and right click to lengthen shorten the hook allowing to pull and even to hang There should also be a time limit so that someone can't just block the pulled in a corner Hitting with a harpoon could inflict 4 dmg

Copy paste from my comment on the issue

__Jalo__ 06-Oct-20 10:30 AM

Niceee :D

Dune 06-Oct-20 12:08 PM

@Rilla the dependency graph? That's a bam thing

Rilla 06-Oct-20 12:09 PM

Yeah exactly

Someone posted it earlier

Dune 06-Oct-20 02:49 PM

Matricks removed the feature tho

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 02:51 PM

:(

i am at night(hanzo) 06-Oct-20 05:37 PM

Joined the server.

__Jalo__ 06-Oct-20 05:38 PM

F

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 06:43 PM

for which c++ version is teeworlds made to work for?

nvm

answer no longer needed

__Jalo__ 06-Oct-20 07:08 PM

xD

jxsl13 06-Oct-20 07:24 PM

c++03

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 07:28 PM

I think I solved my issue anyway

I should be able to get the harpoon thingy to be tested soon :)

@Zatline @Ravie want to test it somewhere later today?

Ravie 06-Oct-20 07:30 PM

why not

Zatline 06-Oct-20 07:38 PM

currently not home later sure

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 07:39 PM

wunderbar

Pivert08 06-Oct-20 07:56 PM

Joined the server.

Yannik 06-Oct-20 08:00 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 09:52 PM

http://www.mediafire.com/file/1drjsb13or3z31j/teeworldswater.zip/file Link to the new files

https://www.screentogif.com/

unlike in the previous iterations, this build is much more experimental and hence it is located on harpoon_weapon branch instead of harpoon

Isegrin 06-Oct-20 10:28 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 11:11 PM

Zatline 06-Oct-20 11:27 PM

rdy to test @Ravie @Stiopa

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 11:27 PM

wonderful

it's a bit late for me but I can manage

I've sent the files above ^^

Attachment: ctf56.map (10.18 KB)

furthermore, an update to ctf56

and please put this map in too

Attachment: ctf_test.map (7.43 KB)

@Ravie

Ravie 06-Oct-20 11:31 PM

@Stiopa I'm supposed to host?

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 11:31 PM

you host usually, don't you? :d

Ravie 06-Oct-20 11:31 PM

well I did once

Stiopa 06-Oct-20 11:31 PM

tsfreddie is in china rn and sleeping a good nights sleep I suppose

so he can't update the main server

hence we count on thee

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 12:39 AM

Zatline 07-Oct-20 12:40 AM

could make the map more intresting ya

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 12:40 AM

can be done

rn I will go chill, and I can continue tomorrow, since it is a pretty ok day for me

unlike monday and tuesday

louis 07-Oct-20 02:40 AM

2

ok just a little rant i dont want to hate too much

would be nice if the graphics on 0.7 were cleaned up tho

i like the new mapres/some other graphics but the gui took a turn down the wrong road imo (actually the main menu is good but its still a little janky) (edited)

Zatline 07-Oct-20 02:54 AM

img1: it's a bug I think it has been fixed already for next version img2: server browser can have some improvements I'm already at a new concept that cleans up the design img3: agree img4: don't know what happend with the feets there ^^

louis 07-Oct-20 02:54 AM

oh nice to see some stuff is fixed

also is the content stuff like water/new weapon planned for 0.8?

Zatline 07-Oct-20 02:55 AM

it's experimental but I'd like to see it get done ya (edited)

but will take some more testing and approval of A the community and B the "chief in office" :p (edited)

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 04:26 AM

didn't we have one tab less already

Zatline 07-Oct-20 04:39 AM

it's not about the tabs horizontally but vertically usually in UI design u don't keep sowing the sub menu like this when u go deeper into the menu 6 rows is fine and intended by the design but if u keep showing the sub menu it turns into 12 tabs

and that is where it starts looking clustered :p

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 04:40 AM

ok

did find a bug tho

fixed

lol

ad|BoReD. 07-Oct-20 10:57 AM

Joined the server.

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 11:04 AM

we just had a tournament in china

i'm making mousepads for winners

thoughts?

~~sorry about the ddrace theme~~

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:07 AM

Not a vani tourn? :(

Looks good!

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 11:07 AM

sorry no. ;(

we had ddr fng and ball. (yes ball

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:10 AM

Utd.Legends are calling

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 11:15 AM

now that i think of it.

i really want the entire CTF5 to be printed on a mousepad

would be cool

ShootXen 07-Oct-20 11:25 AM

Doesnt look Bad @TsFreddie

[ɴ]ϟGamingEvolvedᴵᴷᴹ | ƠƧƇ ↬ 07-Oct-20 11:39 AM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:51 AM

@TsFreddie only ctf2

<3

Or... ctf3 mby

Sanzu 07-Oct-20 12:18 PM

Joined the server.

o/

Patiga 07-Oct-20 12:32 PM

@TsFreddie that looks awesome :)

mamedo 07-Oct-20 03:40 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 06:03 PM

is there a function for clipping quads in sprite managing?

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 06:14 PM

@TsFreddie is the server updated to latest harpoon or harpoon_weapon branch?

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 06:15 PM

i can do that

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 06:15 PM

(I'd like to work on harpoon branch still)

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 06:15 PM

rn

which branch do you want?

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 06:15 PM

harpoon

there aren't many new changes on that branch but still it is worthwhile to update I suppose :)

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 06:19 PM

do you know how to build and run on linux?

i can make an account for you on my server, if that's easier

@Stiopa done

it is updated

bed time now. let me know if you want an account. i can make it tomorrow (edited)

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 06:36 PM

no idea how to build on linux

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 06:40 PM

no worries, we can keep doing this

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 06:45 PM

Update: the tees now wiggle their little feet when floating upwards

3

it is very cute and I love it

jxsl13 07-Oct-20 06:54 PM

send gif

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 06:55 PM

if I knew how I would

I can send you the client and give u the server to see it

194.124.32.240:8303

the ip

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 07:00 PM

ScreenToGif - Record your screen, edit and save as a gif or video

Free screen recorder tool. Record, edit and save as a gif or video.

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 07:17 PM

@TsFreddie please compile again as I just pushed a compatibility breaking commit

also... this program seems amazing

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 07:21 PM

will do

~~why is making shirts fun~~

@Stiopa compiled and updated

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 07:26 PM

the screen to gif doesn't really work well on teeworlds or I can't use it well (which is entirely possible, I have never used recording software of any kind before besides some 30 sec fraps couple of years ago)

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 07:26 PM

probably

still a nice to have tool for other things tho.

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 07:27 PM

indeed

also that is a pretty tshirt @TsFreddie

__Jalo__ 07-Oct-20 07:41 PM

@TsFreddie Nice T-Shirt :3

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 07:48 PM

I made bugs in my code I told TsFreddie to compile xD. nice

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 08:32 PM

@TsFreddie not sleeping?

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 08:32 PM

update?

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 08:33 PM

well, I have not fixed all to update

I need 5 mins to test osmething

and why are you not sleeping?

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 08:33 PM

idk

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 08:46 PM

works now.

I think this is it regarding updates today for server @TsFreddie

crap, didn't catch him

oh he is back

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 08:48 PM

how did you know im back

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 08:48 PM

if you can't do it rn, don't worry about it

you went online on the user list

with the phone icon

louis 07-Oct-20 08:49 PM

i kinda wanna see harpoon

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 08:50 PM

1. graphics don't work

2. it's just a hook you pull at will

TsFreddie 07-Oct-20 08:50 PM

@Stiopa done

louis 07-Oct-20 08:51 PM

oh

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 08:51 PM

kind of discarded atm since it is too basic. if you have creative ideas for it

feel free to suggest

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 10:11 PM

@Zatline want to see the new animation? I can compile a client 4 u real quick

Zatline 07-Oct-20 10:11 PM

sure

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 10:25 PM

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4wos3t78hnjgo8x/teeworldswater.zip/file

https://gyazo.com/6c11340731e3a323b60cb19fd79a1774

@Zatline tsfreddie ip

194.124.32.240:8303

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 10:41 PM

@Zatline slower swim for non diving, wiggly feet and up/down input being enabled is the progress for today

Ideally I now need to know how to exploit the up/down for swimming

Tell me how the animation feels as well

Also the current multiplier for no diving gear submersion is 0.2

Zatline 07-Oct-20 10:43 PM

well currently the up/down inputs ain't wokring for me tho

can't dive

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 10:44 PM

Only down should work

HHmm

Can u use jump tho?

Zatline 07-Oct-20 10:44 PM

no neither works (edited)

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 10:44 PM

For diving

Try to bind something to +down

It may not be bound for you

(It was for me automatically for whatever reason)

Also; map progress

Made the central ceiling higher

Added unhookables, replaced harpoons with diving gear

And started adding doodads

Can u see the wiggly feet while swimming up?

Zatline 07-Oct-20 10:50 PM

I like the middle part of this map a lot but the base could be different I feel

I can see the wiggle ya if I jump from high altitude

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 10:51 PM

So I sent you the right client. Good

Yeah base is a mess I feel too

It's not good, but not bad either imo

Zatline 07-Oct-20 10:53 PM

I'd give the flag a small independent platform and open it up a bit around the flag spot

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 10:53 PM

There is a bit of space there to be added

Zatline 07-Oct-20 10:54 PM

not saying flag needs to be on a islannd tho just opening it up more could help already (edited)

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 10:54 PM

Just gotta be careful not to make the flag too faraway from the opening

Zatline 07-Oct-20 10:54 PM

ya flag spot should be close to the water channel (edited)

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 10:55 PM

Just not too close imo

So that tee can be stopped before going to the tunnel

Tho it is true the flag is not too open

Making it open will help attk a bit, which already has a long way

Did u manage to get the bind s +down to work?

Zatline 07-Oct-20 10:59 PM

ya always think about how the two most popular ctf maps do the base ctf5 and ctf2 but also some of the other ctf maps flags are most of the time accessible from two ways (edited)

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:01 PM

Well the room in which the flag is had originally been larger before I made it a bit tighter for hook purposes

Might make a pathway from the left too

Zatline 07-Oct-20 11:02 PM

ya but it feels very inaccessible there is only one way in one way out

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:02 PM

Tho it might feel like a maze then

I will change it around as soon as I can

Which is tomorrow

Zatline 07-Oct-20 11:03 PM

it's after the base where multiple ways split off but the flag should be more right in the center of that junction I feel (edited)

or at least in a reasonable vicinity

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:05 PM

Sure can do

louis 07-Oct-20 11:05 PM

can u dive in water

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:05 PM

Yes

With diving gear - decent speed

w/o - sluggish but possible

louis 07-Oct-20 11:06 PM

how do i

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:06 PM

Are you on the server?

louis 07-Oct-20 11:06 PM

yea

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:07 PM

I messed up a tune before I had to go xd

try this

f1 bind s +down

Then hold s

louis 07-Oct-20 11:08 PM

oh neat

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:09 PM

It works?

louis 07-Oct-20 11:09 PM

diving gear is kinda complex but i like the water physics

yeah

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:09 PM

Is it? It just makes submersion faster, makes u quicker in water and gives more breath

louis 07-Oct-20 11:09 PM

the dj at the top of the water is weird tho

u sometimes dont get it

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:10 PM

Dj?

louis 07-Oct-20 11:10 PM

doublejump

hard to dj out of the water

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:10 PM

Oh

louis 07-Oct-20 11:10 PM

i like the diving gear but i think some people might not because it would work well if ppl just had the diving gear mobility + normal breath

or it just adds a layer of complexity which i know some people wouldnt prefer

its cool tho. also the map is kinda bugged theres a place where the water doesn't work

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:11 PM

U need to be fully out of water which is not always ingame, since u are between two tiles

louis 07-Oct-20 11:11 PM

yea

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:11 PM

Yeah, it is a test map

louis 07-Oct-20 11:11 PM

i think it should be like a little less than fully out of water as well

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:11 PM

Idc enough to fix these spots

louis 07-Oct-20 11:12 PM

cause if ur bobbing near the top of the water its inconsistent to get dj

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:12 PM

Seems simple enough to fix. Just need to get the diving system right

Current default for diving is jump key (edited)

I just swapped it to +down to show Zatline

louis 07-Oct-20 11:13 PM

i find it weird how u did the animations

how it paddles when going upwards even when the player doesnt press any keys

but if ur going sideways it doesnt paddle

i feel like if the user is putting inputs like going sideways it should paddle but if they're not then it should idle

btw the bubble animations are really nice :O

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:14 PM

The animation for wiggling has been added today

I just did the upwards one since I had that one in mind ^^

I will look into top-left, left, right, top-right animation

Cannot imagine a downward one at all ^^

Tomorrow, besides more animations and map fixing I might attempt to tackle the water map layer again...

Scratch that, I am still experiencing weird editor crashes despite not having meddled with editor directly :/

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:37 PM

Also, @Zatline, how do you plan to make the diving gear sprite on a tee?

@Zatline

Not too visible, right? (edited)

Zatline 07-Oct-20 11:49 PM

probably just gonna be glasses with a snorkel on top of the eyes

@Ravie did a nice one that may work (edited)

Stiopa 07-Oct-20 11:49 PM

Subtle too

@Ravie

Zatline 07-Oct-20 11:50 PM

https://www.transifex.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/

2

Iman 08-Oct-20 12:32 AM

aaaaaaaw

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 09:35 AM

Aww

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 10:59 AM

yesterday

today

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 11:03 AM

Mousepad?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 11:05 AM

ye

heinrich5991 08-Oct-20 11:09 AM

what's the blue line?

the image looks good!

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 11:13 AM

suppose to be a laser

didn't do a good job conveying that apparently

emymin 08-Oct-20 11:59 AM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 12:00 PM

When a tee floating in water mousepad? ^^

kara 08-Oct-20 12:28 PM

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 01:02 PM

That's a bit

!HowToDie 08-Oct-20 01:33 PM

sup

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 03:41 PM

today

@TsFreddie nice

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:14 PM

@Zatline seems better now

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:15 PM

Nice

One question

Is this yours?

I cause they copied the character and everything xD

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:16 PM

that's a mod of teeworlds

so it's teeworlds, but in another way

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:16 PM

Ok

xD

Is cause

I searched the company

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:17 PM

it is legal if you are wondering

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:17 PM

And said another one ;/

it is legal if you are wondering

@TsFreddie ok xd

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:17 PM

see http://ddnet.tw (edited)

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:17 PM

Ok :D

Does teeworlds earn money?

I mean

The dev

I say just cause as it's free

I don't know how u earn money if u do

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:19 PM

no

there are no devs other than oy. other ppl just submit code for "fun"

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:20 PM

So

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:20 PM

not really but it is a passion thing

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:20 PM

There's only one Dev?

not really but it is a passion thing

@TsFreddie I imagine

I would like to code

Buy I don't know how to xD

But"

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:21 PM

There's only one Dev?

@__Jalo__ technically ye, but there are consistant helpers who are actively helping

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:21 PM

:0

Nice

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:22 PM

one big happy family

1

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:22 PM

Yea

That's one of the things that make it a good game

No much toxicity

:D

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:22 PM

~~no so much when someone asked for features~~

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:23 PM

?

My English is not very good srry

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:25 PM

ppl argue a lot for anything new here. technically it is not arguing but just ideas from different ppl, yet it does always look like arguing.

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:25 PM

:o

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:25 PM

just saying

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:25 PM

F

Didn't know that

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:26 PM

cough dynamic camera

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:26 PM

oof

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:26 PM

Jajaj

xD

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:26 PM

i do feel like dyncam only affect idm/fng types of game where seeing ppl at the first frame is vital

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:27 PM

What does translator do in this server?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:27 PM

but i have no idea how you would fix it without nuke ultrawide monitor support as well

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:27 PM

xD

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:28 PM

translator does the languages in game

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:29 PM

O

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:29 PM

aka translating english into other languages.

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:29 PM

Is there any Spanish translator?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:29 PM

i don't know actually. you can take a look at the transifex project

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:30 PM

Transi what?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:30 PM

The Teeworlds translation project on Transifex

Translate Teeworlds into your own language.

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:30 PM

Oh thx

OMG

Theres

So many translations

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:31 PM

there are a lot of them are outdated

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:31 PM

Spanish is done

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:31 PM

but i think the popular ones always has ppl doing them

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:32 PM

Ok

Thanks otherwise :D

C u later

:D

Waitwaitwait

Who pays the servers?

I mean

To be always online

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:34 PM

i think dune said they were taking donations before, then they got enough to keep master and forums open for a while so they closed it (edited)

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:34 PM

Master Servers are funded through donations made by donators like 10 years ago

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:34 PM

WOOOOW

That's good

Wait

At the end of @TsFreddie comment

Till it closes?

Is it going to CLOSE??

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:36 PM

i mean they stopped taking donations

they CLOSED the donation page

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:36 PM

I'll donate by when I van

:/

WHYYYY

:C

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:36 PM

cuz they got enough for a long while

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:36 PM

I don't want to see teeworlds closed

It's a good game

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:37 PM

they might open it again when they need more. but it is not going to be soon. it'll stay open. chill

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:37 PM

Oh good

But

Why donations closed

:V

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:38 PM

i mean what are they gonna do with all the extra money tho

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:38 PM

Divide it

With all

Or not using it for later

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:39 PM

I for one would welcome official servers... (edited)

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:40 PM

Didn't understood

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:40 PM

well open servers everywhere would cost way more than ppl willing to donate i think

master is cheap

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:40 PM

What does master mean?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:40 PM

master server sends the server list to your game

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:41 PM

Ou

Nice

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:41 PM

btw are we changing master server to some other names too?

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:41 PM

To what

?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:42 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-53050955

GitHub abandons 'master' term to avoid slavery row

Microsoft-owned GitHub is changing its default project names to avoid slavery-related terms.

i dont know (edited)

just saying lol

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:42 PM

Uff

XX

XD*

How many time

Have u been developing teeworlds?

I mean

U were the creator

Or

Just someone who came after

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:44 PM

the creator isnt here

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:44 PM

?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:45 PM

matricks made the initial game himself i believe? then he left, the project is handed to oy, who only uses irc not discord.

so the "dev" is not here.

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:45 PM

Why u believe?

And

Who's Oy?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:46 PM

oy is the "dev"

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:46 PM

I haven't saw him

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:46 PM

cancel culture

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:46 PM

because he is not here

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:46 PM

:/

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:46 PM

oyster powers :0

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:46 PM

xD

He is

Inviiisible

He is here, he is reading this but we don't see him

xD

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:47 PM

you can find his name in #development and #bridge

he cant see this channel (edited)

he only sees the message in #bridge

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:48 PM

if he cannot see you, you cannot see him. oyster powers :D

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:48 PM

hungry gang

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:49 PM

xD

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:49 PM

fyi do not send your art to ddnet's discord (edited)

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:49 PM

Why?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:49 PM

itll turn into meme immediately

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:50 PM

xD

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:50 PM

no memes here. only serious discussions. trust me.

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:50 PM

:/

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:50 PM

lol

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:50 PM

I feel you. Multimap!!!!!

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:51 PM

right. was going to comment about the diving gear and forgot

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:51 PM

@Stiopa why

This is

The server when most active xD

A long conversation

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:52 PM

@TsFreddie huh o.o

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:52 PM

@Stiopa snorkels aren't diving gears.

you'll just drink the water wearing that

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:52 PM

btw, I'm dumb, has the incorrect translation of the word "oyster" in mind :/.

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:52 PM

I'm lost

What's happening xD

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:53 PM

lol. was wondering why are you making me hungry

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:53 PM

had the word ostrich in mind...

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:53 PM

@TsFreddie let's make an algorithm that draws the snorkel until an air spot

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:53 PM

:'/

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:53 PM

so if you are deep underwater, the snorkel is absurdly long

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:53 PM

oof

cursed

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:53 PM

@jxsl13 do u know what are they talking about?

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:54 PM

yes, about diving gear that a tee wears when it's underwater

snorkel is the thing it breathes through

heinrich5991 08-Oct-20 06:55 PM

snorkel can't be longer than ~30cm, otherwise your lungs won't be able to breathe in the new air

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:55 PM

no more absurdly long snorkel idea? :(

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:55 PM

~~serious discussion~~

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:55 PM

~~serious people, serious discussion, serious design~~

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:55 PM

pls no snorkel, just add bubbles for it

no long snorkel

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:56 PM

but diving gear is a pick up i think

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:56 PM

we can have the snorkel underwater! noone will spot the logic flaw anyway (edited)

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:56 PM

Instead of being long, give it bubbles

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:56 PM

yeah, you can probably just have that. but it does grinds my gear

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:56 PM

wdym bubbles

tees already give out bubbles when underwater

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:57 PM

air bubbles when under water

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:57 PM

(and they pop too!)

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:57 PM

from where the hole is of the snormel

snorkel

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:57 PM

lol

what is the point of the snorkel then

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:57 PM

to look cute.

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:58 PM

more air capacity?

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:58 PM

magic breathing power

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:58 PM

infinite air capacity

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:58 PM

Wait

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 06:58 PM

60 s to be exact

10 -> 60

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:58 PM

I search what's an snorkle

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:58 PM

https://gyazo.com/6c11340731e3a323b60cb19fd79a1774

@Zatline

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:58 PM

Ou

That

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:59 PM

this is a snorkel

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:59 PM

Nice idea

Thx

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:59 PM

sorry Zatline

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:59 PM

Srry if I don't understand some things xd

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 06:59 PM

no ping intended

TsFreddie 08-Oct-20 06:59 PM

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 06:59 PM

?XD

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 07:00 PM

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 07:00 PM

WOOOOOW

Niceee

But I prefere the snorkel

Patiga 08-Oct-20 07:01 PM

why not both :)

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 07:02 PM

Yea

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 07:02 PM

yeah I don't see how having diving gear would prevent the bubbles!

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 07:02 PM

He means

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 07:02 PM

it moves the bubbles

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 07:02 PM

To have the bubbles over de snorkel

jxsl13 08-Oct-20 07:02 PM

yes

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 07:02 PM

So as if he was using all his air

In his lings

Lungs*

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 07:02 PM

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 07:03 PM

?

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 07:03 PM

extra bit of code moving the bubble starting position a bit

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 07:03 PM

Yeah

Didn't know what u said

But sounds cool

xD

CroceL 08-Oct-20 07:07 PM

Joined the server.

heinrich5991 08-Oct-20 09:31 PM

PSA: maps now use sha256 https://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/maps/maps/

Stiopa 08-Oct-20 09:32 PM

so little 2020 maps D:

can anyone contribute to the database?

heinrich5991 08-Oct-20 09:33 PM

yes, please send me your downloadedmaps folder

zip it up and upload it somewhere

__Jalo__ 08-Oct-20 10:30 PM

What's the database?

heinrich5991 08-Oct-20 10:44 PM

database of (hopefully) all maps

Maxwell 09-Oct-20 12:08 AM

Joined the server.

Murphy 09-Oct-20 12:53 AM

Joined the server.

Uber 09-Oct-20 03:53 AM

Joined the server.

MarisaG 09-Oct-20 04:38 AM

I still have some free servers if anyone is interested. Just pm me and we can work it out...

TsFreddie 09-Oct-20 07:48 AM

wall is insanely hard to do

TsFreddie 09-Oct-20 08:14 AM

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 08:16 AM

Unhookables

Sonix 09-Oct-20 10:41 AM

Nice work @TsFreddie

TsFreddie 09-Oct-20 11:44 AM

i'm flattered

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 11:50 AM

Tbh, hooking a ninja into the spikes is not the best idea. It's better to run away, gear up and get the frag while maintaining distance from them

Weird decision making on the tees side @TsFreddie

Especially under the laser fire

TsFreddie 09-Oct-20 11:53 AM

(fng

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 11:55 AM

Vanilla ftw :ddd

jxsl13 09-Oct-20 01:44 PM

that looks awesome.

Patiga 09-Oct-20 01:56 PM

@TsFreddie this is getting much better with each iteration :), but could it maybe look better if the edges of the walls weren't completely flat?

TsFreddie 09-Oct-20 03:19 PM

curved it very slightly

like so slightly i can't even tell lol

jxsl13 09-Oct-20 03:21 PM

nice curves

ShootXen 09-Oct-20 03:44 PM

A sacrifice has been made

Patiga 09-Oct-20 04:00 PM

curving it inward on the block transitions might be nice, but those are just wild guesses ^^

__Jalo__ 09-Oct-20 04:02 PM

Nice

stnwtr 09-Oct-20 04:08 PM

Joined the server.

What exactly changed from 0.6.x to 0.7.x on the server only? Is there any changelog i can read somewhere?

louis 09-Oct-20 04:10 PM

@TsFreddie whatd u use to make that?

looks really cool btw

TsFreddie 09-Oct-20 04:10 PM

photoshop

curving it inward on the block transitions might be nice, but those are just wild guesses ^^

make sense, ill try that tomorrow

photoshop

i just use layer style wherever i can

1

basically magic

LPTP1 09-Oct-20 05:57 PM

Joined the server.

Someone wan'ts to play?

Search for the LPTP1 server

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 07:27 PM

and... the diving gear is now represented as a sprite

Galli 09-Oct-20 08:05 PM

sometimes i just wish dream played teeworlds

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 08:09 PM

so that more people would learn about it?

KevinBanana 09-Oct-20 08:55 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 09:02 PM

it's shaping to be better and better

Caique 09-Oct-20 10:08 PM

Algum br?

Algum brazileiro ?

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 10:10 PM

engliush

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 10:39 PM

yo @TsFreddie whenever you able to, please put this on the server

thanks

Attachment: ctf_twilight.map (12.44 KB)

emymin 09-Oct-20 10:51 PM

a

__Jalo__ 09-Oct-20 10:51 PM

Hdy

XD

emymin 09-Oct-20 10:51 PM

woah that is you

__Jalo__ 09-Oct-20 10:51 PM

Yea

emymin 09-Oct-20 10:52 PM

I am SHOOK

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 10:55 PM

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4wos3t78hnjgo8x/teeworldswater.zip/file New Build released

Implement vote subheaders by Learath2 · Pull Request #2517 · teewor...

it's got the diving gear texture visual and should be compatible with Freddies' server @Zatline

pickup is not reskinned yet

1

(I've got problems doing that, game returns game.png as the pickup icon

)

__Jalo__ 09-Oct-20 10:57 PM

F

Stiopa 09-Oct-20 10:57 PM

and rest of my time was spent decorating the ctf_twilight

the latest map

not only do the tees wiggle, they also may wear adorable masks!

__Jalo__ 09-Oct-20 11:04 PM

Nice

1stDecadeTW 10-Oct-20 12:12 AM

It looks cute

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 12:12 AM

1

indeed

louis 10-Oct-20 12:13 AM

haha

needs some shading on the top of the snorkel tho

wait

does a tee have a mouth?

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 12:13 AM

direct that at @Zatline then ^^

1stDecadeTW 10-Oct-20 12:13 AM

Is there any linux 32 bits binary to test the water feature? Windows only?

louis 10-Oct-20 12:13 AM

because a snorkel implies so

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 12:13 AM

hmm

there's a server hosted, but you need the client which is

(surprise surprise, compiled only on windows currently)

but if you know how to compile, I can give u a link to the branch

:)

@louis the real question is, how much % of tee is air

considering how much they float

louis 10-Oct-20 12:17 AM

actually we can calculate that

a while ago we calculated the dimensions of a tee in the ddnet discord

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 12:18 AM

Which is?

louis 10-Oct-20 12:19 AM

1 tile is about 0.75 meters

so a tee, depending on skin, is at least 0.8meters wide and tall

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 12:22 AM

0.75 x 28/32

At bare minimum I suppose

Ip repost btw 194.124.32.240:8303

louis 10-Oct-20 12:23 AM

well we based our size based on the most commonly-used grenade launcher so it might have a bit of uncertainty lmao

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 12:26 AM

a bit.

louis 10-Oct-20 12:27 AM

i guess u can just calculate it using 9.8m/s but oh well thats not exciting f(._. )z

Galli 10-Oct-20 12:39 AM

Wouldn’t it be crazy if Teeworlds was an Esport

so a tee, depending on skin, is at least 0.8meters wide and tall

@louis a tee is 2 feet tall. How odd

Galli 10-Oct-20 02:07 AM

i turned the AnimScale in render.cpp to 5 and got this beauty

TsFreddie 10-Oct-20 06:53 AM

@Stiopa done

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 11:04 AM

Wonderful @TsFreddie

RudolfMonekey 10-Oct-20 11:58 AM

Joined the server.

TsFreddie 10-Oct-20 03:59 PM

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 04:03 PM

nicely done!

Sonix 10-Oct-20 04:03 PM

hoho is that my skin the last pic

TsFreddie 10-Oct-20 04:03 PM

nice

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 04:03 PM

soon, a new water build will be compileable (edited)

how are you standing with your time? ^^

I wonder if I can get my fellow clanmates to play a bit on the server with me ^^

what's the difference between NDDR and DDR?

TsFreddie 10-Oct-20 04:09 PM

just me separating two groups that's all

there are tons of new players so there was a novice map for new players in the tournament

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 04:10 PM

okayo

TsFreddie 10-Oct-20 04:10 PM

Novice DDR i guess

lol

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 04:10 PM

kk ^^

and CTFw gametype for tunable CTF and projectile in water tuning pushed. yay

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 04:20 PM

Oops I just remembered that I might have missed to place a shotgun on the blue side but I not sure

Stiopa 10-Oct-20 10:42 PM

Attachment: ctf_twilight.map (12.53 KB)

@TsFreddie map update

for whenever u are online

SiliCon 11-Oct-20 09:26 AM

Joined the server.

TsFreddie 11-Oct-20 12:20 PM

@Stiopa done

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 12:33 PM

wonderful!

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 03:44 PM

please recompile the server

@TsFreddie

Attachment: ctf_twilight.map (12.54 KB)

updated ctf_twilight too

@Zatline implemented ascend for +up and +jump and +down to descend as one of the tunes one may turn on (edited)

TsFreddie 11-Oct-20 04:08 PM

done

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 04:45 PM

restarted the server? @TsFreddie

to get the changes in?

TsFreddie 11-Oct-20 04:46 PM

I restarted it already tho

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 04:46 PM

I was on it all the time and I didn't get thrown out? or did I miss it? o.o

TsFreddie 11-Oct-20 04:46 PM

Idk

Didn't check if anyone is in there when I closed it

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 04:48 PM

ok it is updated

thank you so much

TsFreddie 11-Oct-20 04:48 PM

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 04:55 PM

also can u put this in the server directory for being able to quickly add votes? ^^

Attachment: presets.cfg (310 B)

obligatory ping @TsFreddie

TsFreddie 11-Oct-20 04:55 PM

ill do it tomorrow

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 04:55 PM

kk

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 05:08 PM

are these the new vote headers?

seems...

weird?

these votes work...

yet they became headers?

@Learath2 it seems u authored this https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2517 How do the headers work?

This patch introduces subheaders with varying depth, it doesn't really look the best on older clients though. We could remove the depth component and make it only depth 1. This could also b...

like, what would cause those votes to become subheaders*

Learath2 11-Oct-20 05:19 PM

uh, it has been a couple months since I made it but I think it was just one # per level of subheader

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 05:20 PM

hmm

Learath2 11-Oct-20 05:20 PM

Look at my screenshot of the old client

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 05:20 PM

I'm pretty confident those don't have any #... I need to see some other servers

Learath2 11-Oct-20 05:20 PM

maybe I have an uninitialized variable somewhere

What is your server? I'll debug it on there

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 05:21 PM

well, the first one is on the watermod branch I am making, the second one is [=P.I.=] Clanserver and third is the aeon clanserver #2

OK.

just restarted client

and opened the aeon calnserver #2

this is the result

previously only ctf_tantum_old was a subheader @Learath2 very weird behavior

Learath2 11-Oct-20 05:24 PM

I don't see any headers on my machine, so I'm guessing I really do have an uninitialized variable somewhere

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 05:25 PM

hmm

FYI I am using windows artifact in a .zip from this https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2772

Implement absolute joystick ingame input mode, improve labeled scro...

Implement absolute joystick input mode and add option to settings (closes #2612). The sensitivity is unused in absolute mode, hence the option is hidden when absolute mode is enabled. The tolerance...

but considering it also malfunctions on the watermod branch which has master merged in, I think it is probably a bug not related to the joystick commit

Learath2 11-Oct-20 05:26 PM

Yep it is an uninitialized variable

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 05:27 PM

ayyy. bug found

Cya 11-Oct-20 06:32 PM

Joined the server.

Pure_luck 11-Oct-20 08:21 PM

Hi, @Cya

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 08:25 PM

yay! he made it

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 09:07 PM

so yeah

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4wos3t78hnjgo8x/teeworldswater.zip/file Update: + new controls, dive and surface (set at the bottom of controls) + heart only drowning dmg + server is now visible on public (Name: Water Test Gametype: CTFw ) (edited)

For the builders, the source is available at https://github.com/Stiopa866/teeworlds/tree/harpoon (edited)

Pun Approval - Модерация тем, сообщений и регистраций

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to Stiopa866/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 09:23 PM

feat cute tee feet wiggling and new sprites

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 10:20 PM

Should tees swim with:

WASD/Space

Space + cursor for direction

3

1

Hoping to kickstart a discussion

jxsl13 11-Oct-20 10:22 PM

arrow keys

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 10:22 PM

Arrow keys

:woozy_face:

jxsl13 11-Oct-20 10:23 PM

I'm playing with arrow keys

Iman 11-Oct-20 10:24 PM

im playing with ESDF ._.

jxsl13 11-Oct-20 10:24 PM

double tap keys instead of space

my mouse is in my left hand, that's why arrow keys.

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 10:25 PM

Fair

Just assume 1 says arrow keys theb

I am gonna need to make a questionnaire for this

So far opinions of people who tested it have been pretty split ^^

louis 11-Oct-20 10:39 PM

space+cursor is bad controls use wasd

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 10:41 PM

Wasd is the default rn

There are some people who say latter is better tho hence I am opening the discussion

Both lead to different playstyles

Iman 11-Oct-20 10:42 PM

i didnt tested it but i dont figure out how can u aim&shoot and swim at the same time w/ the space+cursor thing

Stiopa 11-Oct-20 10:43 PM

Well, u can't really do anything behind you, yeah

Iman 11-Oct-20 10:43 PM

thats dumb xD

louis 12-Oct-20 03:50 AM

hi small ctf5 bug if anyone wants to fix

also i think cursors in game.png can use some touch-up (the outlines + colors) (edited)

Stiopa 12-Oct-20 06:27 AM

Can be fixed by clipping I suppose

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 12:02 PM

What's the bug @louis ? I can get under that whole pathway easy and being where you're on screenshot is not something unnatural.

I mean anyone with a decent skill can fly under the spikes to the other end and sometimes even survive that. (edited)

Stiopa 12-Oct-20 12:04 PM

Some background behind the spikes I believe @Pure_luck

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 12:05 PM

I don't see anything wrong there.

if you mean that shadow that just gives a 2.5d-like look to it.

Stiopa 12-Oct-20 12:10 PM

Pretty sure that's unclipped background, not shadows

louis 12-Oct-20 02:28 PM

grass_main cave visible under unhooks

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:03 PM

What is the nature of delays on forum? It takes hours to display new posts.

Last time I've asked I was assured that's not a premoderation. But it still very like it.

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:04 PM

I think there is premoderation now, they were talking about it a while ago. @Dune ^^

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:04 PM

Anything can be changed? it seems like someone trying to cure headache by cutting the head. (edited)

Forum is unusable and that's broken, it's not a solution to anything.

Sorry for being a little mad about this. It's my second attempt to use a forum and like 6 hours have passed and my messages are still not there. Last time I've waited for a day.

It feels like a message that nobody is welcome to use a forum at the moment.

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:08 PM

there is premoderation now, because spam got out of hand

if spam calms down we can remove it

is some delay on the posts such a bad sacrifice?

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:08 PM

There is even no notification on a nature of delay. If I haven't discord I'd just leave the forum forever. And I am sure 99% people trying to communicate there just leave as it really looks like a technical problem.

It's not some delay. It's a total absence of feedback on posting the message.

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:10 PM

then that's an issue with the plugin

no one seems to have skill+motivation to write a good one

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:10 PM

What plugin?

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:10 PM

that handles the approval requirement for posts

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:10 PM

If that's broken then turn it off. Just add recaptcha.

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:11 PM

@Dune maybe you could try "authorizing" users that are regular posters to skip premoderation?

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:11 PM

I've integrated it last time in like 30 minutes to my website.

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:11 PM

I believe it's actual humans that do this

@Learath2 I'd like to authorize all users that posted at least once until today yeah

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:11 PM

How much actual humans spam this forum? 1 message a day?

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:11 PM

but again, this needs some skill+motivation that no one seems to have

@heinrich5991 nicely fixed it so that we don't need to approve users at least

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:11 PM

Oh the plugin doesn't support letting people skip premoderation?

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:11 PM

@Pure_luck more

just now I went to check your messages and there were 2 spam posts along with them

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:12 PM

maybe you could try "authorizing" users that are regular posters to skip premoderation?

That's not a solution. We need messages from new people.

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:12 PM

@Learath2 the plugin doesn't seem to have a whole lot of tuneable stuff yeah

it's punbb

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:12 PM

@Dune I can probably patch it for you if you want

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:12 PM

@Pure_luck then I foresee there is no solution that would be good enough in your eyes with our current manpower

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:12 PM

@Pure_luck recaptcha wasn't effective

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:12 PM

(recaptcha not being effective usually implies that it's people spamming, not bots)

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:13 PM

it's people spamming

we tried various stuff like teeworlds-related questions

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:13 PM

Is there a report button on posts?

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:13 PM

yes there is

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:13 PM

The solution to this is a massive moderation team, we don't even have a massive playerbase

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:13 PM

So users can report on spam and it will be go for moderation.

The solution to this is a massive moderation team

No, solution is users reporting and code reacting to that/

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:13 PM

we tried that, it doesn't work

the spam is massive

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:14 PM

So only reported posts or messages will go to premoderation.

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:14 PM

i'd imagine it'll be too late and too many spam post before anyone can moderate it afterwards

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:14 PM

exactly

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:14 PM

the spam is massive

Do they register 1000 accounts?

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:14 PM

I'm very active at least twice daily and you still have more chances to see a new spam post than a new real post

yes

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:14 PM

Proof of Work for registration could work

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:14 PM

So registration is something that's need to be trottled.

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:15 PM

so when you have 100 of posts a week and 1 real it makes more sense to put some approval

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:15 PM

even 50 accounts is way too much for almost no mod team.

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:15 PM

@Learath2 how about not add malware to the website

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:15 PM

Well I don't think that fits the definition of malware

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:15 PM

I don't believe in a proof of work here.

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:15 PM

You don't believe in anything anyway

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:15 PM

hmm?

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:16 PM

Anarchies sadly don't work and without enough moderation this kind of thing quickly becomes one

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:16 PM

I have motivation to solve this problem and have some knowledge.

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:16 PM

china has it easy, everything is ID traceable, you can ban the whole person lol (edited)

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:16 PM

proof of work doesn't help here, again, it's real people spamming

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:16 PM

@heinrich5991 yeah but it taking 2-3 minutes to create an account might slow them down

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:16 PM

I don't just blame. I want to fix this.

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:16 PM

(i mean for coorps, we can't do that with teeworlds.cn (edited)

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:17 PM

I am not a php specialist but a web developer with experience.

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:17 PM

@Pure_luck the fix you proposed requires more moderation, where do you propose we get this moderation?

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:17 PM

@Pure_luck write a pun_bb extension that does what you and we want

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:17 PM

@heinrich5991 ddnet uses punb_bb too?

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:17 PM

e.g. modify the extension to only get moderation approval for the first ~3 posts

no

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:17 PM

that would be good yeah

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:17 PM

what ddnet uses? and how it is fighting spam currently?

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:17 PM

approve a post = approve the user

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:17 PM

and send a message to the user

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:18 PM

@TsFreddie China and Korea have it so easy, just ban someones ID. The only way to actually discourage people from anything is upping consequences

People are absolute cunts when given anonymity

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:18 PM

@Learath2 wechat ID?

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:18 PM

Korea has anti-anonymity stuff?

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:18 PM

e.g. modify the extension to only get moderation approval for the first ~3 posts

or even first one

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:18 PM

@Dune there are korean games that require you register with your ID number

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:18 PM

huh

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:18 PM

You get one chance to cheat, than you are out

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:19 PM

yeay, let's require teeworlds forumers to register with a selfie of themselves next to a teeworlds screen and their driver card

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:19 PM

~~id theft~~

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:19 PM

the fix you proposed requires more moderation, where do you propose we get this moderation?

we have a chicken and an egg problem here. We don't have users to do moderation with reports/likes because forum is dead. And the forum is dead because we cannot moderate

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:20 PM

no

the forum is dead because it's dead

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:20 PM

I want to do something with it. Just let's make a solution to code

and I will try to do it

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:20 PM

I don't think the lack of activity in the forum is much related to that

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:20 PM

@Dune have you tried to post anything to forum to only get a page reload with no post in it and no further info?

It's worst UX experience I can imagine.

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:21 PM

yeah, Dune is doing his best to let post pass i'd imagine. and he probably gets a couple of legit posts per day anyway.

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:21 PM

@Pure_luck so?

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:21 PM

I'm sure there is a cryptographic solution to this somewhere. A zero knowledge proof of identity?

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:21 PM

give me a link to that plugin that currently makes premoderation

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:21 PM

a couple of legit posts per day is an overestimation

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:21 PM

I can at least add a notification message to it

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:21 PM

oof

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:21 PM

@heinrich5991 do you know the source of the plugin?

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:23 PM

I'm sure there is a cryptographic solution to this somewhere. A zero knowledge proof of identity?

i think there should be much simpler solutions

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:23 PM

I think the problem clearly needs blockchain

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:23 PM

and machine learning

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:24 PM

I got C in all AI courses

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:24 PM

and thermonuclear synthesis

I think there is a reliable and simple solution already. We're not alone with that problem

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:24 PM

it is not for me.

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:24 PM

like a blacklist lists and systems like in email engines (edited)

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:24 PM

(and i'm not suited for the future i guess)

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:24 PM

"Post and registration approval"

name of the extension

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:24 PM

thanks

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:25 PM

this one? https://punbb.info/t-19.html

Можно ли сделать в расширении Post and registration approval - перемещение сообщений в другой форум, а так же изменение сообщений перед добавлением на форум? Pun Approval - Модерация тем, сообщений и регистраций — Recycling Extensions —

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:25 PM

what a straight forward name for a plugin

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:25 PM

I think so @Pure_luck

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:25 PM

hmmm

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:25 PM

It says in russian "have many bugs, need to be reworked"

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:25 PM

why is the site russian-only, is it inofficial?

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:26 PM

and it's 2015 seems to be a proof of concept work which was then abandoned

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:26 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PunBB

PunBB

PunBB (PunBulletinBoard) is a lightweight PHP-based internet discussion board system released under the GNU General Public License. The project's primary goal is to be a faster, smaller and less graphic alternative to discussion boards such as phpBB, Invision Power Board or vB...

well

Stable release 1.4.4 / October 14, 2015; 4 years ago

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:27 PM

I mean plugin

Today recapcha is not only graphical thing. It evaluates suspicion based on cookies and so on

you can add it to registration with most paranoid settings

this will require user to solve like 5 graphic captchas and still it's better than premoderation

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:28 PM

I heard it's mostly effective at blocking firefox users

also remember, it's humans spamming

humans can solve recaptchas

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:29 PM

or bots that buys human solvers (edited)

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:29 PM

yeah, but if attacker is spending 1 minute solving captcha and you ban him in 10 seconds that's nice

do you think that it's automated or fully-manual registrations and posts?

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:30 PM

i think they'll just pass the recaptcha in 1 click in most case since they are human

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:30 PM

I mean adding fake fields to registration forms will it help it?

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:30 PM

we think it's humans

didn't help

already tried

we can try recaptcha again if you like. need an extension for that, I guess

Dune 12-Oct-20 05:31 PM

I doubt this will lead to anything, it's humans

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:31 PM

can you check that this plugin has exactly that source?

TsFreddie 12-Oct-20 05:32 PM

but i guess if you are modding the plugin might as well take some time to add it for future bots

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:32 PM

I want to install a punbb to my dev machine and test if I can add notifications to it

I don't think you will give me access to a forum instance to copy sources from and fix it right there. (edited)

and also which exactly version of PunBB is that? 2009

Sorry guys for annoying you with that. I don't think anybody of you really want to do extra labor on a seemingly not actual problem. So I will try my best to offload you in solving this. I will start from testing the cause of notifications are not shown on forum. (edited)

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:37 PM

https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/extensions/pun_approval.tar

Learath2 12-Oct-20 05:37 PM

India has an amazing recaptcha solving industry

You can buy like thousands of solves for dirt cheap

one has to wonder, is keeping punbb worth the trouble

phpbb probably has much better plugin availability

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:39 PM

Oh, I was sure I am right. There is a solution

https://punbb.info/t-500.html

Fancy Stop Spam защита PunBB от роботов и спама

Расширение Fancy Stop SPAM позволяет защитить форум от автоматической регистрации роботов без каптчи.Расширение работает незаметно для пользователя, поэтому 99% пользователей форума даже не узнают, что на форуме

Также при регистрации осуществляется проверка адресов элетронной почты через сервис StopForumSpam.

There is (or at least was) a forum database of spammers like in email world.

https://www.stopforumspam.com/

and it's free

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:41 PM

that's already installed and active on the forum

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 05:41 PM

it doesn't help much, right?

or it caused problems so you've had to tune it to some low values?

what version of punBB are you using? v1.4.4 or much older?

I want to reproduce the absence of notifications problem

heinrich5991 12-Oct-20 05:48 PM

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 06:19 PM

Installed, yeah, locally there are no notifications too. It seems that they will need to be added.

I will try to do that.

Lol, that forum looks neat

Pɦoenix 12-Oct-20 07:30 PM

Joined the server.

Pure_luck 12-Oct-20 10:41 PM

The whole way this extension system works is a mess. There should be another way to add notifications or get rid of this plugin/forum engine completely.

And yet I am aware nobody else is motivated to do that.

I will cease my investigations on this plugin behavior as it doesn't seems to be a fruitful direction towards a tolerable solution of a "spam vs unusable forum" problem.

Stiopa 12-Oct-20 10:59 PM

To write n delete is a waste of time!

𝐒𝐮𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐂𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐤𝐲 12-Oct-20 11:26 PM

Joined the server.

Pere 13-Oct-20 03:00 PM

Joined the server.

gigabyte 13-Oct-20 04:20 PM

Hello, can somehow pass an empty description of the vote make an indent from the votes, without specific characters?

I mean after updating with depth voting

Dune 13-Oct-20 04:23 PM

@Learath2 do you understand?

Learath2 13-Oct-20 04:25 PM

I think I sorta do, I don't think we allow empty decriptions on votes at all

Maybe just try a # it might or might not work

gigabyte 13-Oct-20 05:14 PM

yes it work, but this empty vote now looks more important than all other votes. I'll have to use symbols

Stiopa 13-Oct-20 08:33 PM

@TsFreddie yo, did the server crash?

o.0

nvm it is back

louis 13-Oct-20 11:15 PM

whys this in dm1

also i just noticed the hearts in dm1 mid aren't spread out with equal spaces lmao

o_be_one 13-Oct-20 11:36 PM

Joined the server.

@Souly

Souly 13-Oct-20 11:36 PM

yo

heinrich5991 14-Oct-20 02:12 AM

@Pure_luck I added a message in the forum header, maybe that will help a little

! FoXi Tee 14-Oct-20 07:42 AM

._.

best combination

Pure_luck 14-Oct-20 08:16 AM

@heinrich5991 thanks, I hope that will help (especially new people on forum). It's good to be heard

Stiopa 14-Oct-20 06:41 PM

@TsFreddie got time? ^^

TsFreddie 14-Oct-20 06:41 PM

ye

Stiopa 14-Oct-20 06:41 PM

how much, since I want to work on a map udpate soon

and idk if I need to hurry

TsFreddie 14-Oct-20 06:41 PM

it is 12:41AM

so 20 minutes maybe

Stiopa 14-Oct-20 06:42 PM

so I need to hurry

TsFreddie 14-Oct-20 06:47 PM

well you can ask me after you finish everything

Kakashi Ama JoJuK Olanᴵᴷᴹ 14-Oct-20 06:54 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 14-Oct-20 06:56 PM

Attachment: ctf_twilight.map (12.58 KB)

@TsFreddie please update

TsFreddie 14-Oct-20 06:57 PM

done

Stiopa 14-Oct-20 06:57 PM

@Zatline changed ^ (edited)

Stiopa 14-Oct-20 07:39 PM

hmm

might push out another update too

TsFreddie 14-Oct-20 07:39 PM

sure

Stiopa 14-Oct-20 07:40 PM

lightining speed response

Zatline 15-Oct-20 04:30 AM

@Stiopa @TsFreddie my first take on improving the map. kept it visually low key for the start little to no doodads, changed the base pathing and layout, water tunnel is a bit longer and more opened up towards the base, more unhooks on the little canyon and changed up the center bit to see what else works. turned jungle_midground from quad into tiles with color adjusted to better fit the bg (edited)

Attachment: ctf_twilight-v2.map (15.1 KB)

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 07:10 AM

Do you have screenshots? @Zatline

Out of home for the next 8h

Iman 15-Oct-20 02:07 PM

hey, im using the f-client from fokkonaut and i was wondering how the client can know wich gamemode you're playing and return the appropriate entities, because i would like to use some custom entities for some gamemodes.

any tips ?

fokkonaut 15-Oct-20 02:27 PM

It checks the gametype that's sent with the serverinfo

You need to change code to have custom entities for other gamemodes

Iman 15-Oct-20 02:31 PM

-_-

i dont compile it by myself

i don't think im enough motivated to change the code :|

Pure_luck 15-Oct-20 02:57 PM

@Iman what have you wanted to achieve in the first place?

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 04:31 PM

@Zatline wow that's a lot of changes!

Iman 15-Oct-20 05:20 PM

i would like to use some custom entities for some gamemodes @Pure_luck

Pure_luck 15-Oct-20 05:26 PM

Like what entities and what mod? I am still curious.

@Iman

Iman 15-Oct-20 05:29 PM

custom vanilla entities w/o hearts & armor &weapons spawns

for gctf

Pure_luck 15-Oct-20 05:44 PM

I know that entities tilesheet switch logic exists in ddnet client. It seems that f-client has integrated it too. Do you know if vanilla teeworlds has it too? @Iman

Iman 15-Oct-20 05:44 PM

wdym ?

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 06:23 PM

@Zatline I love the diving gear being on an island in a small pond in the middle instead of being above a pond. The BG/Doodad and the midground colors are much better too

the various shapes in the map remind me of the deathmatch maps a lot

base feels much cleaner too. Though there are some things I prefer in my version (after all the map made by me suits my tastes

) for example I liked the idea of being able to go at high speeds the entire "middle" section without having to do any rocket jumps

the rocket jump into the water tunnel became quite a bit harder now

the handling of the tunnel is better. it is harder to position yourself in a way to stop the incoming attackers and the spot feels vulnerable, much more so than previously

the map feels less expansive too (or at least for me ^^)

louis 15-Oct-20 06:24 PM

if i want to make a vanilla map do i only need to use external mapres

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 06:25 PM

wdym external mapres?

ah external in the editor right

vanilla gametype will accept embedded tiles too

a gerdoe 15-Oct-20 06:29 PM

@louis, I think so, current vanilla mapres base should be more various

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 06:29 PM

there are many new tilesets in work for 0.8 ^^

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2778

RFC: New tileset (egyptian?) · Issue #2778 · teeworlds/teeworlds

I just played a round of DDNet and found a real nice tileset that would also fit very well for Vanilla: What do you think about this tileset? The author Pipou seemed willing to release it under a f...

source

Zatline 15-Oct-20 06:33 PM

@Stiopa thanks

still think there are areas to improve tho but need to test map to see what works what doesn't

can u put it on the server?

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 06:35 PM

@TsFreddie https://discordapp.com/channels/407308363031117832/407308363031117834/766125803296653353 can you put the map on the server?

I'm gonna definitely change my map around with the changes I have no doubt will be a positive

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 07:02 PM

applying changes ^^

Sonix 15-Oct-20 07:08 PM

am i cute?

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 07:09 PM

spoopy.!

I like the color scheme tho. idk why tho

Sonix 15-Oct-20 07:10 PM

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 07:10 PM

red was better!

Sonix 15-Oct-20 07:10 PM

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 07:11 PM

the many faces of teeworlds ghost

I can already see a server full of those ^^

Zatline 15-Oct-20 07:11 PM

very cute

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 07:11 PM

no bias towards red ofc

by turning the doodas blue-er I made the house bluer as well

Sonix 15-Oct-20 07:29 PM

oop

ShootXen 15-Oct-20 07:29 PM

isn't that a old skin

Sonix 15-Oct-20 07:30 PM

if u mean there was one in 06 / ddnet made by whis yes

ShootXen 15-Oct-20 07:30 PM

yea

My skin is still better

Sonix 15-Oct-20 07:31 PM

good for u, im getting dressed for halloween

1

ShootXen 15-Oct-20 07:32 PM

Souly 15-Oct-20 07:32 PM

no feet seems op

a gerdoe 15-Oct-20 07:33 PM

why?

Souly 15-Oct-20 07:33 PM

because you cant see dj indicator

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 07:33 PM

people don't know if u have the second jump or nah :D (if they had the skin ofc)

Souly 15-Oct-20 07:34 PM

and no feet option would look bad on other body types

imo

a gerdoe 15-Oct-20 07:34 PM

i dont think that no feet skin can spoil the gameplay (edited)

ShootXen 15-Oct-20 07:35 PM

a gerdoe 15-Oct-20 07:35 PM

cursed

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 07:35 PM

water in tw is much more spoopy

actually this skin gives me an idea...

scythe weapon

ShootXen 15-Oct-20 07:36 PM

@Sonix skin was made by ravie for me on 0.6 and I used the script for 0.7 (edited)

Sonix 15-Oct-20 07:36 PM

nice one

Souly 15-Oct-20 07:36 PM

@Sonix send ghost skin pls

Sonix 15-Oct-20 07:36 PM

10 bitcoins

1

Souly 15-Oct-20 07:37 PM

:c

a gerdoe 15-Oct-20 07:37 PM

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 07:50 PM

not sure what I want to do in base yet

old version, spot the changes... ^^

Souly 15-Oct-20 07:55 PM

seems like

no feet = best option

Zatline 15-Oct-20 07:56 PM

ya feets on ghost looks bad

Souly 15-Oct-20 07:57 PM

but it also goes the other way

no feet look bad on other skins

way better

and looks fine with colors too

but this is where it gets problematic

Zatline 15-Oct-20 08:06 PM

yikes

Souly 15-Oct-20 08:06 PM

imagine seeing something like this when you woke up at night

seems like im not scared of ghosts but im scared of bear with no feet and gun in hand

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:11 PM

just limit no feet to ghost via code

Souly 15-Oct-20 08:15 PM

oooh

thats a good idea

will any ghost skin get into vanilla?

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:17 PM

who knows

maybe during halloween something spooky may happen

or nothing at all

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 08:19 PM

remove tee feet during halloween

spooky

Souly 15-Oct-20 08:20 PM

:o

Iman 15-Oct-20 08:20 PM

they would roll instead of walk

very spoopy :o

Souly 15-Oct-20 08:22 PM

i forgot to share it here, i slightly adjusted standard feet and made them smaller

not good quality but someone might play with it

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:34 PM

cutes

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 08:47 PM

Actually who decides what skin parts are in

Or is it just all made by one person

do you take new parts as part of updates

Sorry, too many questions

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:49 PM

everybody is free to propose new graphics via github or forum

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 08:50 PM

Well if I'm good at inkscape I might consider doing some

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:54 PM

its not all made by one person, Zatline and Ravie are doing most gfx stuff

Or is it just all made by one person

@TsFreddie

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 08:54 PM

so two persons

I'm kidding

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:55 PM

im on the sidelines as i dont feel good enough to make stuff on my own

and there's also android272

heinrich5991 15-Oct-20 08:56 PM

@Sonix it seems like you need to contact the graphics team first and see what they have planned

otherwise you'll probably duplicate something they have already

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:56 PM

we're in contact don't worry @heinrich5991

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 08:57 PM

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:57 PM

there's a nice gfx update coming next version

heinrich5991 15-Oct-20 08:57 PM

just telling that @TsFreddie because it wasn't contained in your answer

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:58 PM

ah

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 08:58 PM

Oh

Sonix 15-Oct-20 08:59 PM

well sharing similar ideas is a good thing too and comparing graphics that u may have already done with theirs is also a good thing

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 08:59 PM

Don't worry if I make any they probably wouldn't pass anyway

Sonix 15-Oct-20 09:00 PM

you never know until u try

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:00 PM

But this game man, it teaches you everything

First programming, now it is teaching me how to do illustrations (edited)

Sonix 15-Oct-20 09:01 PM

true, that's how i got into making gfx and graphic design

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:02 PM

Do we have a sound design person as well

Btw, I thought a ghost body might have compatibility issues with current markings?

Can current graphics code do alpha mask?

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:05 PM

i learned gimp just to make some stuff for teeworlds

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:06 PM

Like we can have a rectangular markings instead of circular ones and let a body/ears/decors' alpha mask decide the shape of markings (edited)

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:07 PM

hmm

maybe packing multiple pngs as one file

and it would decide how given marking would look on given body

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:11 PM

That would increase the work for any addition of markings/bodies I think

Sonix 15-Oct-20 09:11 PM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2157

Auto adaptable body markings · Issue #2157 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Right now we're using markings that are based on the default tee body shape, which on different body types might look weird and not that good. My suggestion is to make the markings auto ada...

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:11 PM

oh shit

that looks amazing

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:12 PM

Right, like that

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:12 PM

this is better than what i said

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:12 PM

Redix might know about gl more. I hope we don't need shaders

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:12 PM

i want it

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:12 PM

Or I hope we do and just get shader in already

Fonts could use some shaders too (edited)

Oof that issue is a year old already

But that really needed some support from coders. Since it is not a graphics only problem.

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:22 PM

is there any issue about 0.7 default feet?

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:27 PM

I still don't know what are ppl complaining exactly about the feet

I might be blind

Zatline 15-Oct-20 09:28 PM

^

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:31 PM

@TsFreddie i hear all the time that 0.7 feet are too big and not round enough

jxsl13 15-Oct-20 09:31 PM

one pixel offset

iirc

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:32 PM

like all the time when i try to advertise 0.7

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:32 PM

Is it that much big of a deal

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:32 PM

seems like yes

jxsl13 15-Oct-20 09:32 PM

enough for ppl to complain

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:32 PM

jxsl13 15-Oct-20 09:32 PM

ig it was fixed, not sure, tho

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:32 PM

and i gotta agree that default feet could have some rework

jxsl13 15-Oct-20 09:33 PM

been too many issues and prs lately to keep track (edited)

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:33 PM

or maybe just add another smaller feet type

jxsl13 15-Oct-20 09:33 PM

no trump feet pls

we already have trump hands

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:33 PM

Do we?

jxsl13 15-Oct-20 09:33 PM

do you see any hands?

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:34 PM

Didn't check

jxsl13 15-Oct-20 09:34 PM

I think we have hands, I kinda do not remember myself xD

maybe they are just tiny hands

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:34 PM

I think 0.7 hands are more visible than 0.6's

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:34 PM

hands look really weird when you are looking down

@TsFreddie they are

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:35 PM

Which I think is actually nice

Not sure about looking down tho

Never paid any attention

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:35 PM

try without feet texture

its weird imo

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:38 PM

It is not that bad. At least it is holding the gun correctly

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:38 PM

but when you look upwards the hand almost completly hides behind the body

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:39 PM

Even with default skin?

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:39 PM

my mistake, not almost but completly hides

yes even with default

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:39 PM

Weird

Can I have a screenshot

I'm currently in bed

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:41 PM

not visible

which kinda makes sens but i think that something could be done with it

to make hands overally more visible

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:45 PM

I think you would need to shift the gun as well.

Don't know if it will be more akwards

Souly 15-Oct-20 09:45 PM

im too lazy to change my gameskin for one screenshot

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:48 PM

I might pass out any time now.

Good night

heinrich5991 15-Oct-20 09:48 PM

good night

Sonix 15-Oct-20 09:49 PM

i think @louis can explain you the feet issue

0.6 feet https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407308363031117834/708004274982092800/unknown.png

0.7 feet https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407308363031117834/708004157793239110/unknown.png

its about the position

that some (not me) may find weird

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:52 PM

Hmm

Look not centered in either anyway

Zatline 15-Oct-20 09:53 PM

both look weird in direct comparison

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:54 PM

Solution: don't stare at the feet. It is weird staring at ppls feet

Sonix 15-Oct-20 09:55 PM

first one looks like its taking a dump

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 09:56 PM

yo sonix

are other newclan people online? ^^

asking for watermod purposes

nvm

Sonix 15-Oct-20 09:57 PM

no idea

probably wont be ingame this evening

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 09:58 PM

What if we just match 0.6's feet position for good measure if there aren't any argument around it.

Zatline 15-Oct-20 10:01 PM

@TsFreddie https://discordapp.com/channels/407308363031117832/407308363031117834/766125803296653353 can you put the map on the server?

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 10:02 PM

Can you copy the file url

Can't copy it on mobile for some reason

Zatline 15-Oct-20 10:03 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407308363031117834/766125803049451540/ctf_twilight-v2.map

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 10:03 PM

Thx

Added

Zatline 15-Oct-20 10:04 PM

thanks

hmm how do I change the map now

it's not poping up in vote map menu

@Stiopa

game feels scuffed btw. grenades are floating mid air and moving trough water is super laggy

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 10:10 PM

do you have rcon?

Zatline 15-Oct-20 10:10 PM

don't remember it

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 10:11 PM

should i add it to vote list and restart the server

Zatline 15-Oct-20 10:11 PM

would appreciate that a lot

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 10:13 PM

can do fix

TsFreddie 15-Oct-20 10:14 PM

already restarted

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 10:14 PM

map changed

@Zatline

Stiopa 15-Oct-20 10:25 PM

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4wos3t78hnjgo8x/teeworldswater.zip/file

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4wos3t78hnjgo8x/teeworldswater.zip/file

Stiopa 16-Oct-20 07:02 PM

@TsFreddie tagging you in hopes of you being online by some chance ^^

jxsl13 16-Oct-20 07:38 PM

@jxsl13

what?

Stiopa 16-Oct-20 08:51 PM

@Zatline have u applied any changes to the map? (edited)

Stiopa 16-Oct-20 11:01 PM

how does one check if a tee is drunk?

uhh

asking for a friend.

TheSliX // Manuel 16-Oct-20 11:03 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 12:44 AM

@Zatline flippers pickup for curs oriented swimming? ^^

Zatline 17-Oct-20 12:44 AM

hmm

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 12:45 AM

random idea.

what about the map? ^^

Zatline 17-Oct-20 12:47 AM

did start but not done yet

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 12:47 AM

kk. I will wait until then, trying to do water layer again

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 01:48 AM

crash on 27% loading

didn't go too well, did it?

too late to deal with this. probably a problem with the static_cast and the pointer

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 04:58 PM

Attachment: ctf_twilight-v201.map (15.1 KB)

@TsFreddie please add this map ^^

TsFreddie 17-Oct-20 04:59 PM

added

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 05:00 PM

yay. now I have to get my build working :D

Pure_luck 17-Oct-20 05:43 PM

If you guys want any support like hosting etc just ask

I am glad to see something new is finally happening with tw

Luís Oliveira 17-Oct-20 07:07 PM

Joined the server.

TsFreddie 17-Oct-20 07:25 PM

Attachment: 2020-10-18_00-30-59.mp4 (19.41 MB)

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 09:57 PM

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ZeZJNkIzygwTHVjlPBGMyIccY6RjyWjSeHKmC66-ZJs/edit

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 11:45 PM

@Zatline got a moment?

Zatline 17-Oct-20 11:45 PM

sure what up

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 11:46 PM

Water feedback after 17.10.2020 Session

anything I should add? besides a map section ^^

Zatline 17-Oct-20 11:48 PM

seems nice

Stiopa 17-Oct-20 11:48 PM

added 2 fields about the map

how about now?

@Zatline

Zatline 17-Oct-20 11:50 PM

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 12:11 AM

@Zatline ask for access so that u can see the results (none are in quite yet)

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 01:04 AM

@Zatline colored diving gear. what do you think?

like, user tunable

on per user basis ^^

louis 18-Oct-20 01:21 AM

should be the feet color

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 01:51 AM

what is different here? ^^

hook is slower in water now too ^^

2/3 grenade dmg, faster shotgun, slower hook in water... coming with the next water build

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 02:05 AM

So much feedback... my hands will be occupied! ^^

1

louis 18-Oct-20 03:33 AM

why is sg faster (edited)

Learath2 18-Oct-20 03:40 AM

If you are going for realistic all entities should experience drag according to their size, though realism rarely feels good in games, especially games like these

1

Zatline 18-Oct-20 04:29 AM

@Stiopa check PM, I sent u harpoon mockup for testing

louis 18-Oct-20 05:10 AM

grenade dmg should go down, shotgun+nade speed should decrease (and gun) (edited)

laser should get aoe effect because electricity in water :P

would be cool

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 02:38 PM

Joined the server.

Pere 18-Oct-20 04:13 PM

Hello I'm trying to host a server but when I open the teeworlds_srv.exe it closes immediately. I port-forwarded 8303 through my router's site on my web-browser, and made the serverconfig.cfg file and all, but I think that the port isn't actually forwarded because when I use a tool called "Port Forward Network Utilities" it says the port isn't forwarded. What can I do? thanks

I don't know if this is the right place to ask this...

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 04:20 PM

whether your port is forwarded or not should not crash your server

where is your teeworlds_srv.exe from?

official release?

Pere 18-Oct-20 04:20 PM

Yes

But maybe it's not updated

actually I'm pretty sure it is updated

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 04:21 PM

I think it can be an issue with your serverconfig file

Pere 18-Oct-20 04:22 PM

this is my file: sv_name CTF - Fun Server - Pro's and Newbie's allowed sv_port 8303 sv_max_clients 12 sv_map ctf2 sv_scorelimit 500 sv_timelimit 60 sv_gametype ctf sv_motd Homeserver hosted in Spain.

the file's name is "serverconfig.cfg"

Souly 18-Oct-20 04:25 PM

@Pere did you launch the server using .bat?

Pere 18-Oct-20 04:25 PM

no... what is that?

Souly 18-Oct-20 04:25 PM

@Pere so call your server config autoexec.cfg

but still weird, should launch even without it

if all folders are there

Pere 18-Oct-20 04:26 PM

i called it autoexec.cfg and still closes immediately

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 04:26 PM

:/ strange

Souly 18-Oct-20 04:27 PM

do you have separate folder for server? @Pere

Pere 18-Oct-20 04:28 PM

yes. I went into my installation, copied teeworlds_srv.exe; created a folder there called "Server Stuff"; and inside that i pasted teeworlds_srv.exe, created config file, and created a shortcut to the pasted teeworlds_srv.exe to add the -f command

Souly 18-Oct-20 04:28 PM

@Pere what about maps?

default map should be dm1

is it in your maps folder?

Pere 18-Oct-20 04:29 PM

there's a file called dm1.map in tw\data\maps

Souly 18-Oct-20 04:30 PM

but is it in your server folder?

Pere 18-Oct-20 04:30 PM

no

should i copy the maps folder there?

Oh i copied it and it now seems to work!

Souly 18-Oct-20 04:30 PM

you can just copy the whole data folder and place it into server folder

:D

Pere 18-Oct-20 04:30 PM

:D

thanks guyzz :)

Oh and it seems to be connected properly cause I just entered my server ingame!

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:00 PM

the laser... doesn't go where I want it to go! ://

it doesn't go where I aim.

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:02 PM

are u coding this?

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:03 PM

believe me or not but yes

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:03 PM

if you're doing trigonometry to get the angle, make sure both mouse coordinates and player coordinates are in the same space (screen space / world space)

i can take a look if u share code

a gerdoe 18-Oct-20 05:05 PM

it should work like that, it's "water" physics

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:05 PM

nope, I am not doing any trigonometry here. I just used the water refractive index ^^

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:05 PM

oh ok but why would water bend the laser?

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:06 PM

tho I think I messed it up, it should diffract the other way

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:07 PM

lol i still dont get it

so water makes ur laser go below you aim?

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:07 PM

water makes laser diffract

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:08 PM

what does that mean

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:08 PM

which atm is just a multiplication of velocity

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:08 PM

but isnt laser instantaneous?

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:09 PM

I made the diffraction a bounce

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:11 PM

so if u shoot outside water and then it enters water, it changes direction right?

but if u shoot inside water it just goes straight?

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:11 PM

currently - yes

but that is bound to change

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:11 PM

ok

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:11 PM

when I fix the algorithm

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:11 PM

is that just your mod or many ppl working on this?

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:12 PM

I am the sole coder ^^ Zatline is doing the graphics and I have many people to playtest

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:13 PM

did u implement the water?

(im noob idk if theres water in vanilla)

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:13 PM

no water in vanilla

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:14 PM

oh ok

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:14 PM

so yes this is new

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:14 PM

nice

So if I got my server to work, does that mean that my port is properly forwarded?

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:19 PM

what's your srv name?

@Pere

CTF - Fun Server - Pro's and Newbie's allowed

this? right?

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:19 PM

yes

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:19 PM

works.

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:19 PM

some people entered before so it works

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 05:20 PM

it is portforwarded well then

louis 18-Oct-20 05:30 PM

laser = electricity

water = water

laser + water = bad

a gerdoe 18-Oct-20 05:32 PM

laser + water = all tees in water die

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:32 PM

@a gerdoe that would be cool

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:33 PM

hi

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:33 PM

even tho laser is just light... not really electricity

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:34 PM

laser + water = bad

@louis idk, im taking a bath with my toaster everyday

and nothing happens

Chilli.* 18-Oct-20 05:35 PM

@fokkonaut

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:35 PM

someone knows about 0.7.6?

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:35 PM

its not released yet

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:35 PM

i know

but...

when?

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:36 PM

you can use some features of it from github

idk when will release came

Chilli.* 18-Oct-20 05:36 PM

@Souly you know why blmap is blocked?

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:37 PM

@Chilli.* blmap?

Chilli.* 18-Oct-20 05:37 PM

@Souly des blmapchill

*yes

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:37 PM

wdym blocked

Chilli.* 18-Oct-20 05:37 PM

There is a pass

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:37 PM

wut

since when

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:37 PM

im in eeplay lts

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:37 PM

i was there a while ago

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:38 PM

lms

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:38 PM

@Chilli.* maybe test server

@Chilli.* also fddrace discord https://discord.gg/qccRrtb

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:38 PM

hey guys

how i do to host a server?

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:39 PM

go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Teeworlds\tw\

create a new folder

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:39 PM

i haven't teeworlds on steam

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

steam nobos

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

get it

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

@Souly im not in steam B)

Souly 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

go to tw folder and launch teeworlds_srv.exe

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

in the folder u put a copy of teeworlds_srv.exe, and a copy the data folder

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

i know

but

in srv.exe

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

idk man there's guides online, look that up first

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

it opens a cmd app

and...

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

u have to port-forward

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:40 PM

@Pere ok

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:41 PM

:=

:)

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:41 PM

0 is next to 9 XD

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:41 PM

it is!

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:41 PM

so

i open tw_srv

and...

the server is open?

Pere 18-Oct-20 05:48 PM

Yea if u did all properly, have port forwarded, and config file created

What does IRC mean?

jxsl13 18-Oct-20 05:49 PM

internet relay chat

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:49 PM

ok

i've created a server

but

how i do to configure it?

jxsl13 18-Oct-20 05:50 PM

autoexec.cfg into the same folder as the executable

before starting the server

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:50 PM

?

jxsl13 18-Oct-20 05:51 PM

more precise pls, what your question is

you open notepad

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:51 PM

how i do to configure the server (name. map...)

in the folder?

jxsl13 18-Oct-20 05:52 PM

https://teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=server_settings

you open notepad, write the configuration stuff in there and save the file as autoexec.cfg

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:53 PM

I just read that page

ok

thx

jxsl13 18-Oct-20 05:53 PM

in the same folder as your teeworlds_srv

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:53 PM

the name of the notepad?

jxsl13 18-Oct-20 05:54 PM

problem that you might have is that you incorrectly save the file as autoexec.cfg.txt , whish is incorrect, because you do not have file suffix/extensions visibly enabled. (edited)

the name of the text file is autoexec.cfg

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:54 PM

ok

to sv_name i have to type sv_name = (name) ???

jxsl13 18-Oct-20 05:57 PM

you write

sv_name My server name

https://youtu.be/q_dPVtR3zMg

jxsl13

Teeworlds Server Setup [0.6.4] [WIN7]

Teeworlds local server setup tutorial. See how to run an own server on windows. You can run the server to test your own maps or just for fun. It is mostly not recommended to run a home server, but in the early days of teeworlds it was common to run these servers on your own ho...

maybe that helps, it's dated, but should be the same with 0.7

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 05:59 PM

ok

i create a cfg but how

adding .cfg

@Dune hey dune u know about this no?

help plz

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

jxsl13 18-Oct-20 06:06 PM

I'm sadly off now, maybe later or tomorrow I can help, watch the video

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 06:08 PM

ok

Dune 18-Oct-20 06:11 PM

@PerroFachero don't use =

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 06:15 PM

ok

i fixed it

but dune

how i do to create a cfg file?

Dune 18-Oct-20 06:16 PM

seems like you just did

copy paste it and edit it or make a new txt file or whatever that has a .cfg extension

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 06:16 PM

i cant

look

i just can create a txt document

Sonix 18-Oct-20 06:19 PM

open a text document and save it as .cfg (edited)

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 06:19 PM

look

wait

i did it!!!

yay

and now i just open the tw_srv?

ok

tw_srv doesn't open

Rilla 18-Oct-20 06:22 PM

You need to change the properties, so the teeworlds exe also opens the cfg

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 06:23 PM

change the properties?

Pere 18-Oct-20 06:25 PM

@PerroFachero can i play?

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 06:25 PM

ok

wait ok?

i change the name and...

u can play

Rilla 18-Oct-20 06:28 PM

Just watch the video and do it step by step

PerroFachero 18-Oct-20 06:32 PM

the server name is ctf

wait

Rilla 18-Oct-20 06:36 PM

You need to right click on the teeworlds_server - - > properties--> and where the path is you need to add to open the auto exec.cfg

a gerdoe 18-Oct-20 07:07 PM

@PerroFachero you have an autoexec.cfg.txt

not autoexec.cfg

enable file extension showing

siqueira 18-Oct-20 10:10 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 18-Oct-20 11:20 PM

we need to pull out the big guns.

3

Pere 19-Oct-20 12:05 AM

Harpoon???

Stiopa 19-Oct-20 12:08 AM

Harpun

Pere 19-Oct-20 12:11 AM

Is it like a damaging hook?

Stiopa 19-Oct-20 12:12 AM

maybe

who kows?

design hasn't been decided on

Pere 19-Oct-20 12:13 AM

Lol ok

TsFreddie 19-Oct-20 02:28 AM

1

CHINA

I'm finally out of quarantine

Richard Moelleux 19-Oct-20 01:39 PM

Joined the server.

jxsl13 19-Oct-20 02:41 PM

you were quarantined in like that airport area for two weeks D:?

TsFreddie 19-Oct-20 03:53 PM

no it was in a hotel

I took the pic in the train station after I'm out

jxsl13 19-Oct-20 06:22 PM

ok :0 then good luck

Blade 19-Oct-20 06:59 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 20-Oct-20 08:47 PM

Stiopa 20-Oct-20 08:57 PM

seems good. weaker but not too weak

Pure_luck 20-Oct-20 11:21 PM

Add sharks!

Stiopa 20-Oct-20 11:23 PM

sounds a bit advanced

Should Flags in Water Float

or Sink

? (edited)

11

2

Stiopa 21-Oct-20 12:12 AM

@Sonix added proper explanation in case you misunderstood the question, (totally possible) probably should have done that first

erlend_sh 21-Oct-20 10:49 AM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 21-Oct-20 11:04 AM

fokkonaut 21-Oct-20 12:43 PM

so cool!!

Assa 21-Oct-20 12:45 PM

https://i.imgur.com/qyPFRl0.png

Stiopa 21-Oct-20 01:05 PM

it's... a bit dark

but I must say, red sus

Assa 21-Oct-20 01:05 PM

red is dead, blue sus

Zatline 21-Oct-20 01:07 PM

NyonX 21-Oct-20 03:11 PM

still looks a bit weird but cool idea

Souly 21-Oct-20 03:20 PM

you could move the white bone to the last panel

so it wont get colored

Assa 21-Oct-20 05:12 PM

this is what the panel is for

Ravie 21-Oct-20 05:51 PM

that's not how it works

panels are different layers of the skin

Souly 21-Oct-20 06:51 PM

but it doesnt get colored

just saturation gets to 0

like here

so it would work fine with that bone

Blade 21-Oct-20 10:40 PM

Does anyone have contact with ChillerDragon ?

Made a slightly better logo for his TeeworldsDB repo

jxsl13 21-Oct-20 10:57 PM

ehm

he's in the bridge channel

ask Dune for access.

@Blade

Blade 21-Oct-20 10:59 PM

Isn't that just an IRC dump channel?

ShootXen 21-Oct-20 11:00 PM

@ChillerDragon @ChillerDragon.* ^ (edited)

not sure which one is his or both are his discord accounts? (edited)

Blade 21-Oct-20 11:00 PM

Oh, didn't know he had Discord

Stiopa 21-Oct-20 11:06 PM

he doesn't like discord xd

jxsl13 21-Oct-20 11:20 PM

that is a two way discord-irc bot channel

dunno if chiller still uses discord, he did, but usually he is on irc

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 12:45 AM

aaand

now laser diffracts when exiting water too ^^

@Zatline

now, there is just one more bug to fix before I can consider laser diffraction done

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 01:34 AM

yeah... to fix this issue will take some time... ^^

and I may have just found a SECOND bug to accompany the previous one ^^

yep

it is confirmed. :D

rewriting collision engine for the prurposes of diffraction can get a bit problematic ^^

Zatline 22-Oct-20 01:49 AM

https://tenor.com/view/escalated-quickly-anchorman-gif-5112090

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 02:01 AM

Eh, second is easy enough to fix ^^

First one though... let's say it took me an hour already ^^

Tho I am trying to resolve it soon... will think of solutions in my sleep

Zatline 22-Oct-20 02:26 AM

so much effort! big respect

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 09:59 AM

ok I just fixed the second issue and the first one stopped occuring o:

I guess it makes sense why the first one occured bcs of the second one

but I thought the cause lied in something else

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 10:10 AM

laser now travels 2/3 of distance in water

fokkonaut 22-Oct-20 10:59 AM

laser should make an electric shock xd

bzzzz

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 11:01 AM

that sounds strong, AOD

fokkonaut 22-Oct-20 11:01 AM

was a joke

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 11:03 AM

well, it sounds like a cool idea :D

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 02:02 PM

yo @TsFreddie ^^

got time?

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 02:02 PM

probably

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 02:02 PM

perfect!

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 02:03 PM

depends if I want to get out of bed

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 02:03 PM

you doo you doo

to update the server? surely you do!

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 02:03 PM

sure

Like right now?

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 02:04 PM

nah

in like 5 mins

@TsFreddie please update now ^^

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 02:10 PM

done

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 02:15 PM

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4ndg9zv7bwdq2v4/teeworldswater.zip/file

https://github.com/teeworlds

Client ^^

New: Laser Diffraction, range decrease, Grenade nerf in water, hook nerf, shotgun buff

and the NEW harpoon texture ^^

can't see the server :/ @TsFreddie

ah right

forgot I need to turn on srv_register

oops

"Water Test" srv as alwasy

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 04:02 PM

hmmm, maybe it can indeed be colored

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 04:22 PM

Glasses?

0.7.6

?

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 04:29 PM

nah

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:29 PM

find the flag

who finds it gets a cookie.

louis 22-Oct-20 05:30 PM

heinrich5991 22-Oct-20 05:30 PM

louis 22-Oct-20 05:30 PM

two here its really easy

heinrich5991 22-Oct-20 05:30 PM

I also thought that

louis 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

not these

louis 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

also one here

send cookie

heinrich5991 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

plus the one on the kill msg

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

louis your mailing info?

louis 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

123 pathway lane

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

city?

postal code? (edited)

louis 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

north aamerica

12345

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

sent

louis 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

thx

heinrich5991 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

how did the flag end up there?

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:31 PM

it's the watermod, flag floats

so it just floated up

I just killed the flag holder to release it there

good cammo

@louis has it arrived yet?

louis 22-Oct-20 05:33 PM

yes

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:33 PM

good

find the bug

second cookie to be gotten ^^

louis 22-Oct-20 05:34 PM

now u need to kill someone with flag in water under one of these btw

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:34 PM

lol

louis 22-Oct-20 05:35 PM

so the rope hides it

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:35 PM

camooflage

come on, spot the bug. free cookie to be mailed!

Assa 22-Oct-20 05:53 PM

that's why i voted for a non-boyant flag

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 05:58 PM

is that really why?

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 06:42 PM

Btw why do we have a emote that say ooop instead of oops.

And why don't we have crying ones

Ethan 22-Oct-20 06:44 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 06:48 PM

OOOOOP

Ethan 22-Oct-20 06:49 PM

anybody want to play some teeworlds?

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 06:50 PM

wdym, public srv?

^^

Ethan 22-Oct-20 06:50 PM

we can do z-catch

@Stiopa what server?

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 06:57 PM

busy rn

Ethan 22-Oct-20 06:59 PM

alright

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 07:49 PM

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 07:52 PM

so cool xP @TsFreddie

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 07:52 PM

I made myself one as well. It will arrive tomorrow hopefully

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 07:53 PM

I need one with a harpoon :D

Souly 22-Oct-20 07:53 PM

who made the issue on the +toggle stroke thing?

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 07:53 PM

Stiopa the waterbender (edited)

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PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 08:03 PM

@Stiopa hey dud how u did to get swimming googles?

Souly 22-Oct-20 08:03 PM

@PerroFachero https://discord.com/channels/407308363031117832/407308363031117834/768809844298874941

download a client and join server called Water test

with it

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 08:04 PM

oh

thx

so

how i do w the .zip ?

Souly 22-Oct-20 08:05 PM

unpack it

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 08:05 PM

and...

Souly 22-Oct-20 08:05 PM

and open teeworlds.exe

from that folder

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 08:06 PM

where the .zip has to be?

Souly 22-Oct-20 08:06 PM

unpacked

right click on it

and there should be unpack option

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 08:06 PM

i know

but where i move the unpacked .zip?

aaaa

ok ok

Souly 22-Oct-20 08:07 PM

you can move it into separate folder or just launch it straight

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 08:07 PM

but the game version?

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 08:08 PM

Don't worry about it. You only have test server to connect or open your own to test

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 08:08 PM

someone plays?

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 08:09 PM

It is a work in progress prototype stiopa has been working on.

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 08:10 PM

i love this mod ^_^

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 08:10 PM

Well the goal is becoming not a mod

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 08:12 PM

this is official?

:brownbear:

XD

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 08:20 PM

no

TsFreddie 22-Oct-20 08:21 PM

It might be

PerroFachero 22-Oct-20 09:12 PM

somebody haves some mods?

jxsl13 22-Oct-20 09:39 PM

what are you looking for

exactly

and then ppl might link those mods here (edited)

Rilla 22-Oct-20 09:40 PM

what physics diffrent between 06 and 07 is there?

or did the engine changed or anything?

Anatomy 22-Oct-20 10:43 PM

@Souly fake

Souly 22-Oct-20 10:56 PM

u

@Rilla none i think

thats why 0.6-0.7 bridge servers work

Assa 22-Oct-20 10:58 PM

close to none, the deathtile physics changed a bit but thats all

Souly 22-Oct-20 10:59 PM

@Assa what changed in those?

Assa 22-Oct-20 10:59 PM

in 0.6 you were able to skip a wall of deathtiles simply by going fast enough

Souly 22-Oct-20 10:59 PM

oooooh

wasnt that the case for other tiles too?

Assa 22-Oct-20 11:00 PM

the death-tile-collision was moved to the same collision where normal collision is calculated and you can't do this anymore

no, you can't skip ground tiles EVER

i mean hookables and unhookablese

Souly 22-Oct-20 11:00 PM

so if ddnet would move to 0.7 then probably we wont be able to skip freeze, kill, laser tiles

redix 22-Oct-20 11:01 PM

no. they could already fix it but it would break a lot of old maps

Souly 22-Oct-20 11:01 PM

oof

Assa 22-Oct-20 11:01 PM

freeze? skippable, kill? unskippable, laser tiles probably still skippable

it just depends on it's implementation

redix 22-Oct-20 11:02 PM

even if they moved to 0.7, they would still use their old (and buggy) physics code

Souly 22-Oct-20 11:02 PM

having bugs and calling it features

check: weakhook

Assa 22-Oct-20 11:02 PM

imagine if a tile checks every tick if it gets hit by a player, it is skippable

but if the player checks for collisions it's not

Rilla 22-Oct-20 11:13 PM

On several of my own mapped maps the flag sometimes bypass a death tile and only gets reset on the bottom of the map instead of the death tiles. And I mapped them on 0.7

redix 22-Oct-20 11:28 PM

in fact it was only fixed for tees

Stiopa 22-Oct-20 11:57 PM

Should hammer be slower in water?

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Spyry 23-Oct-20 06:59 AM

Joined the server.

Learath2 23-Oct-20 09:17 AM

Physics bugs will indeed stay for a long time. We might fix some of the sillier ones when switching to 0.7

A large upgrade is the best place to drop some of the stupid stuff

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Assa 23-Oct-20 10:59 AM

On several of my own mapped maps the flag sometimes bypass a death tile and only gets reset on the bottom of the map instead of the death tiles. And I mapped them on 0.7

@Rilla good find, it's the exact same problem, the flag checks every tick if it's in a deathtile and when it's fast enough it can just skip them. Maybe I do a PR fixing it

Rilla 23-Oct-20 11:01 AM

Will it be a hot fix if we put more death tiles in a row? Or will the flag just get through the first one and ignore the next rows?

Assa 23-Oct-20 11:02 AM

It would be a hotfix, until it is fast enough to skip 2 deathtiles

more rows of deathtiles means lower likelyhood of skipping, this is true for Tees in 0.6 either

I see that flag code needs even more fixes, it checks for deathtiles even when it is at it's spawn point

Anatomy 23-Oct-20 11:47 AM

@Souly Fake

Souly 23-Oct-20 11:52 AM

u

Blade 23-Oct-20 02:52 PM

So, is there an unofficial source code- or code structure documentation available somewhere?

Assa 23-Oct-20 02:53 PM

github

Blade 23-Oct-20 02:53 PM

@Assa What do you mean?

Assa 23-Oct-20 02:54 PM

there is some documentation and the clean sourcecode avaible

Teeworlds has 6 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

Blade 23-Oct-20 02:56 PM

I know the repo, but I'm not sure what kind of documentation you're refering to?

jxsl13 23-Oct-20 03:04 PM

the one that is in heinrich's repositories and all over the place :D

a general understanding of modding can be seen in the mod.cpp/.h as a reference on how to make your own small modification (edited)

from my experience it's faster to ask in these channels instead of looking for documentation. (edited)

Blade 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM

I just want to understand how the code works and how everything is set up. I wabt to understand the structure and tinker with parts I feel lacking or missing

I'm fairly new to C++ so I'm kinda using Teeworlds (among others) to learn

jxsl13 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM

virtual functions everythere.

server code or client code?

Stiopa 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM

u have previous code experience? ^^

jxsl13 23-Oct-20 03:09 PM

just leaving that here: src/game/server/gamemodes

that's like the peak of the server code

from there you can go as deep as you want

by following the dependencies in either the cpp files or the corresponding h files

Blade 23-Oct-20 03:14 PM

u have previous code experience? ^^

@Stiopa yes. Although very little with C++

server code or client code?

@jxsl13 Both, actually

Blade 23-Oct-20 03:23 PM

by following the dependencies in either the cpp files or the corresponding h files

@jxsl13 I'm using the header files to orient myself and see which functions exist in each file pair, but a documented version of the source code would be helpful. Either way, there are some stuff that don't make sense to me like, what is handled server side and what client side? Where are the interface things for the client? Why is the map editor still the same as in early 0.6 instead of finally being made more user friendly for advanced features? (which is what I want to work on right now)

I also wonder what kind of encoding or file formatting the map files have

Dune 23-Oct-20 03:52 PM

there is a map editor refactor branch, @Blade

but it's a lot of work

Assa 23-Oct-20 03:53 PM

"what is handled server side and what client side" - client just sends inputs and the server does send positions and has the "real" view of the game. The server calculates (most of) the physics while the client does obviously do the rendering (Servers usually never render anything in any game) "Where are the interface things for the client?" - Netcode is generated and you can't change it easily, or do you mean the client ui? "I also wonder what kind of encoding or file formatting the map files have" - I always wondered that too, it's zipped, thats what I can tell

Dune 23-Oct-20 03:53 PM

in general, the answer to "why don't we have this feature" is "because no one volunteered to do it"

Dune 23-Oct-20 04:01 PM

@Rilla nothing afaik

Blade 23-Oct-20 04:02 PM

"Where are the interface things for the client?" - Netcode is generated and you can't change it easily, or do you mean the client ui?

UI

"I also wonder what kind of encoding or file formatting the map files have" - I always wondered that too, it's zipped, thats what I can tell

Zipped? Mhh

Assa 23-Oct-20 04:05 PM

here is the startpoint for reading into map file io: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/9ad1642f7e781df5784321a499d7f43520b2a827/src/game/editor/io.cpp#L19

https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/blob/master/doc/datafile.md

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to teeworlds/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

good luck

Blade 23-Oct-20 04:07 PM

This'll be interesting

Blade 23-Oct-20 04:26 PM

Something like this for the envelopes would be cool imo

Would be cleaner and would allow for more precision

jxsl13 23-Oct-20 04:36 PM

the map format is a custom binary format that is a little bit documented in heinrich's repository.

Assa 23-Oct-20 04:38 PM

It has a header after wich content is written

jxsl13 23-Oct-20 04:40 PM

ig the content itself is zipped. didn't come that far, tho.

Assa 23-Oct-20 04:41 PM

the good thing: it stores a version

Blade 23-Oct-20 04:46 PM

Why's that a good thing, @Assa ?

Assa 23-Oct-20 04:50 PM

imagine you save a file (without version). Now you update the method on how to read and write the file. Oh no, i can't read old files anmyore, because they don't have the right format and I can't find the format out easily

Blade 23-Oct-20 04:51 PM

In retrospective, that was a stupid question lol

Patiga 23-Oct-20 06:23 PM

the map file format uses zlib compression

PerroFachero 23-Oct-20 06:24 PM

someone plays tw?

jxsl13 23-Oct-20 06:40 PM

about 1000 players play tw 24/7 Oo

Stiopa 23-Oct-20 09:17 PM

what is

float IClient::m_GameTickTime;

about?

jxsl13 23-Oct-20 09:30 PM

synchronization with server tick?

dunno, tho

redix 23-Oct-20 09:36 PM

i think it's the time since last tick in seconds. but in gametime instead of real time. gametime is sometimes running faster or slower to adapt to lags and ping fluctuations

Stiopa 23-Oct-20 10:09 PM

asking since it is screwing up my plans to slow down wateranimation ^^

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Stiopa 23-Oct-20 11:33 PM

tees now fling their hammer in water slowly

but in a weird manner

agreeably experimental

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:37 PM

Thanks @Patiga ! Altough its important to note that not everything seems to be compressed

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:39 PM

yea, compressed are sound files, images, tiles, quads, sounds (in sound layers), some strings

wrote a map parser (and still doing stuff with it) the last couple of months

https://gitlab.com/Patiga/twmap :)

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:41 PM

Funny, I'm doing the same in node right now lol

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:42 PM

nice!

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:42 PM

Tho I'm having mixed results

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:42 PM

if you want i will happily test your maps :)

oh

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:43 PM

Well, my goal right now is to be able to convert maps from and to .map files while handling them as JSON

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:44 PM

oh you are writing a json map format?

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:44 PM

More or less, yes

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:44 PM

im kinda doing the same thing right now

only that i split the map up in different files

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:44 PM

Planning to keep the data fairly raw tho

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:45 PM

i create a map folder, in which there is a image folder with all the images, sound folder with all the sounds in their native format

then a folder for layers and so on

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:46 PM

Yeah, I'll probably do the same for files, but keep the map data as JSON

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:47 PM

is your project in an open repository?

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:48 PM

Do you know what size of LE the size propperty in the header is? 16 or 32?

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:48 PM

you mean the size variable that tells you how large the data file is supposed to be?

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:49 PM

Yes

Getting 10276 on ctf5, could you counter check that for me?

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:49 PM

each number is 32 bit / 4 bytes

sure

Blade 23-Oct-20 11:50 PM

Thanks! Mind if we continue via DM, this is fairly specific stuff? (edited)

Patiga 23-Oct-20 11:51 PM

sure

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:03 AM

explosions are now muffled

now...

water layer work again .-.

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:14 AM

looks like I might have to restart work on water layer as I had based the branch on the wrong one...

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:19 AM

Just put everything in one branch?

and call it water

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:22 AM

if I had put it on a single branch, then you'd be crashing on editor startup ^^

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:23 AM

Why? xf

xd

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:24 AM

editor and waterlayer...

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:24 AM

is it another layer or a tile?

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:24 AM

editor already crashes on tab despite me not having done anything to it on main branch

layer

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:24 AM

lol?

Why not simply a tile

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:24 AM

A second Game so to say

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:24 AM

ah no

ye

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:24 AM

pickups

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:24 AM

makes sense

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:25 AM

also, it just makes sense ^^

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:25 AM

yea true

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:25 AM

anyway, I shall go back to my efforts

also;

"maybe rename to m_Armored to m_Type and make some new variables named for example DAMAGE_ARMOR, DAMAGE_HEALTH, DAMAGE_BOTH"

old fokkonaut comment

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:26 AM

easily adding layers should also be included in the new tile system (if we ever get one)

lol

wym

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:26 AM

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/1716

Add Damage net event by Dune-jr · Pull Request #1716 · teeworlds/te...

So this is a proposal to include a Damage net event. This event contains the following: m_ClientID: ID of damaged tee m_Amount: amount of damage taken, from 1 to 9 m_Angle: angle from which damage...

you said that here ^^

and for purposes of drowning I added flags to TakeDamage()

for pure heart dmg, pure armor dmg and normal behaviour (edited)

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:27 AM

xd

Well makes sense i guess

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:35 AM

so far so good...

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Stiopa 24-Oct-20 01:30 AM

screwed up map save code oops

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 01:46 AM

nullptr my old friend

I have come to talk with you again

ok

managed to recover the ability to load 0.7 maps in editor

can't load the new map in 0.7 either

I suppose the map is incorrectly saved

#losingmysanity:d

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 02:25 AM

ok... enough sanity lost for today. will continue working tmrw

Managed to get it to load but it is hacky

The issue pops up elsewhere so no hack will save me :/

*pridy* 24-Oct-20 09:55 AM

Joined the server.

user040 24-Oct-20 11:43 AM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 11:44 AM

YES

I FOUND IT!

finally

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:02 PM

ok. actually I am not done yet

the whole collision <> entity thingy is so meshed...

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:29 PM

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-george-michael-tired-depressed-nap-time-gif-3294301

right here is fine

TsFreddie 24-Oct-20 12:39 PM

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:39 PM

^

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:49 PM

ok attempt no2

YES

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:53 PM

nice

success

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:54 PM

little success as the hack that I used just broke down the prediction @fokkonaut (edited)

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:54 PM

no idea what hack you used xd

did not look at too much of the code yet

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:54 PM

I made the water layer initialize after the entities have been set

which made the water layer initialize only for the server which decides the pickups xd

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:55 PM

eh

? xd

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:55 PM

I thought this would be easy, I thought m_pTiles was just a copy of the gametiles, but no, it's a pointer

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:56 PM

yea

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:56 PM

"The current tile system and collision.cpp code is not easy to expand without re-writing the whole collision code."

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:57 PM

of course i know him, hes me

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:57 PM

the wisdom of hindsight

fokkonaut 24-Oct-20 12:57 PM

:D

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 12:59 PM

well... this has been a partial success

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 02:17 PM

this is why I have an extra branch for this

TsFreddie 24-Oct-20 03:25 PM

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 03:57 PM

VICTORY

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 04:50 PM

@TsFreddie update the server please ^^

TsFreddie 24-Oct-20 05:35 PM

done

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 07:53 PM

updated waterbuild ^^

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4ndg9zv7bwdq2v4/teeworldswater.zip/file

https://github.com/TsFreddie/teeworlds/tree/0.7-adaptable-marking

WsY[FU]? 24-Oct-20 10:58 PM

is there a way to filter out one~two specific gamemodes, except making a filter that includes every other gamemode, but the ones i want to exclude?

Stiopa 24-Oct-20 11:18 PM

@WsY[FU]? not yet but the github version has exclude

so in 0.7.6 one will be able to do that with ease

WsY[FU]? 24-Oct-20 11:19 PM

nice

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:21 AM

welcome to the winter wonderland

fokkonaut 25-Oct-20 01:22 AM

frozen water lol

makes sense...

Assa 25-Oct-20 01:22 AM

ice physics?

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:22 AM

someone asked me to make ctf2 but underwater

so there you go

I regret nothing.

fokkonaut 25-Oct-20 01:23 AM

xD

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:24 AM

fokkonaut 25-Oct-20 01:24 AM

does it play well?

probably no xd

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:24 AM

ctf5?

ofc not :D

how does one do prebase def when they have to go up every 60 sec for breath :d

fokkonaut 25-Oct-20 01:25 AM

xD

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:26 AM

at least it is easy to get up ^^

fokkonaut 25-Oct-20 01:27 AM

Btw

do bubbles come back slowly when going out of water now?

Or still instant refilled?

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:28 AM

instant refill

fokkonaut 25-Oct-20 01:28 AM

mh

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:28 AM

but I do want to add an option for a gradual refill with speed ^^

fokkonaut 25-Oct-20 01:28 AM

nice, should be default I guess

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:30 AM

depends on what people think about it

now I want to get the next map up & running.

fokkonaut 25-Oct-20 01:31 AM

:D

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:31 AM

the underwater map I mean

not ctf2 with water :D

fokkonaut 25-Oct-20 01:31 AM

obv

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:33 AM

Idk if it is ^^ ctf2_underwater is awesome lol

Ravie 25-Oct-20 01:35 AM

if there's ever a ctf2 with water it's probably gonna be frozen :p

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:36 AM

It's freezing water - not yet frozen ;d

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 01:54 AM

Anyway, few more fixes and I can merge the layer with my main branch :)

Stiopa 25-Oct-20 12:01 PM

yo @TsFreddie

Attachment: ctf2_underwater.map (23.34 KB)

Attachment: ctf_underwater.map (4.6 KB)

can u update the serv and add those maps?

TsFreddie 25-Oct-20 01:08 PM

will do

done

pokles 25-Oct-20 01:45 PM

Joined the server.

pokles 25-Oct-20 02:32 PM

thank you

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pokles 25-Oct-20 03:11 PM

I actually came in, so that maybe someone could help me with my ingame ping lags in ctf5

TsFreddie 25-Oct-20 03:23 PM

only on ctf5?

pokles 25-Oct-20 03:32 PM

I think it carries to other game modes aswell, but recently i only have played ctf5 in the teeworlds client, I dont play anything else with teeworlds client, I use ddnet for ddraces

well ctf

I was told that I can easily find ctf lobbies with teeworlds client so I got it

Ethan 26-Oct-20 03:53 AM

is the teeworlds community usually toxic?

i was playing a game and these people kept on vote kicking me cause they couldnt kill me

and they said they were mocking me in a discord call

also talking about inappropiate things

TsFreddie 26-Oct-20 03:57 AM

~~Own a server, they can't kick admin~~

But in reality, some ppl does do that. Unless you know the server owner, there're probably no better ways to deal with it. If they can't actually kick you, you can just mute them. (edited)

Ravie 26-Oct-20 04:00 AM

depends what mode you play, some communities are more toxic than others

I think it's common in ctf/dm to get kicked by noobs for being too good which kills their fun

TsFreddie 26-Oct-20 04:14 AM

I usually get ppl on my server tries to kick me for cheating.

It is nice to have your own server ngl

louis 26-Oct-20 04:33 AM

tbh i think its justified to kick someone whos obviously 10x better in a public dm lobby or whatnot because of tw's lack of correct skill-based matchmaking

if ur a pro and u have fun destroying some new players in ctf then its honestly just not very cool

(i mean like very new players, ppl who are sorta-familiar its ok to destroy them)

Zatline 26-Oct-20 04:37 AM

hmm makes me wonder how tw could ever do a skillbased matchmaking without account system .. also, I feel these difficulty icons don't make a difference either (edited)

ShootXen 26-Oct-20 06:26 AM

You cant

Matchmaking is impossible without accounts

Everyone would use the Name of the top players

ICTF Save, sayn has the only account there because many tried to fake him

E.g. block most toxic place you can be in tw

Do something stat based without accounts :) (edited)

pokles 26-Oct-20 11:27 AM

the skill gaps are huge

i was playing a game and these people kept on vote kicking me cause they couldnt kill me

or just join a server where votekicking is disabled :p

eepnes 26-Oct-20 12:48 PM

Joined the server.

hey yo

anyone trynna play and talk?

Ethan 26-Oct-20 01:03 PM

I think it's common in ctf/dm to get kicked by noobs for being too good which kills their fun

@Ravie yeah but I only have 12 hours on this game on steam

and i was playing dm

i was trying to hook people into the void

and they kept spam voting me

also calling me racial slurs

kerg 26-Oct-20 01:35 PM

Joined the server.

eepnes 26-Oct-20 01:41 PM

anyone wanna play?

jxsl13 26-Oct-20 02:08 PM

what game mode

eepnes 26-Oct-20 02:33 PM

uhh ddrace?

anything really

@jxsl13

jxsl13 26-Oct-20 02:56 PM

I meant what game mode are the toxic ppl on :0.

sry xD

eepnes 26-Oct-20 03:11 PM

oh

np

TsFreddie 26-Oct-20 03:25 PM

baby step

i have no idea what the leaked pixels are

TsFreddie 26-Oct-20 04:04 PM

also maybe we should move ear shadows into foreground texture

@Sonix

TsFreddie 26-Oct-20 04:16 PM

@redix is it possible to have alpha value in stencil?

we could also just shrink the color texture a little

since the alias can be covered by the outline texture

TsFreddie 26-Oct-20 04:58 PM

glClear(GL_STENCIL_BUFFER_BIT); glEnable(GL_STENCIL_TEST); glEnable(GL_ALPHA_TEST); glColorMask(GL_FALSE, GL_FALSE, GL_FALSE, GL_FALSE); glStencilFunc(GL_ALWAYS, 1, 1); glStencilOp(GL_REPLACE, GL_REPLACE, GL_REPLACE); glAlphaFunc(GL_GREATER, 0.5f);

so i did a alpha test to cut half of the transparent pixels now the messy edges is covered (edited)

so we don't need to change any body textures. the color texture's alpha channel is basically the mask. (edited)

BlackTurtle 26-Oct-20 05:07 PM

Joined the server.

Sonix 26-Oct-20 05:38 PM

TsFreddie 26-Oct-20 05:41 PM

TsFreddie/teeworlds

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to TsFreddie/teeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

branch, if you want to play with gfx

Souly 26-Oct-20 07:45 PM

:o

we absolutely need this is vanilla

ShootXen 26-Oct-20 07:49 PM

those skins?

Sonix 26-Oct-20 07:50 PM

no, the masking

Souly 26-Oct-20 07:50 PM

check link above

Sonix 26-Oct-20 07:51 PM

glad @TsFreddie started working on it

Souly 26-Oct-20 07:53 PM

saddo greensward

i really love the idea

Blade 26-Oct-20 10:32 PM

Is there a public SVG version of the vanilla game.png ?

Blade 26-Oct-20 11:30 PM

Hammer!

Sonix 26-Oct-20 11:47 PM

Blade 26-Oct-20 11:58 PM

And an axe!

Not my finest work, but for the time it took me to make those, they're fairly okay imo

Stiopa 27-Oct-20 12:18 AM

o:

Souly 27-Oct-20 12:37 AM

nice

Patiga 27-Oct-20 02:23 AM

and my bow!

Blade 27-Oct-20 03:35 AM

A bow, huh? Didn't think about that yet. Would be interesting to try.

louis 27-Oct-20 04:57 AM

wth those are nice

they look pretty teeish too

Zatline 27-Oct-20 05:04 AM

teeish indeed nice work @Blade

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 05:46 AM

glad @TsFreddie started working on it

@Sonix it probably just works now. Do I just PR it and you guys can add markings and/or update bodies later.

TrigonRex 27-Oct-20 10:15 AM

Joined the server.

Sonix 27-Oct-20 10:31 AM

@TsFreddie Dunno if we should keep both marking variants or either keep the square one and add an option to mask using default body on every skin (if it’s possible)

If u get what I mean

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 10:32 AM

options probably need support from the protocol

We can choose some to replace where it make sense. and provide alternative version for markings that doesn't make sense.

Sonix 27-Oct-20 10:34 AM

We need more opinions on that issue

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 10:35 AM

ye.

but like, where's the best place to discuss this

Souly 27-Oct-20 12:25 PM

most markings would just need to be extended i think

while the ones like saddo are more problematic

it just doesnt seem to match anything

eepnes 27-Oct-20 12:30 PM

anyone looking to play?

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 12:41 PM

lol what happened to the ghost one

i realize alpha mask might have problem with skins that has an alpha that's less than 0.5 (edited)

but i guess we shouldn't support skins that's overly transparent anyway

Souly 27-Oct-20 12:52 PM

@TsFreddie would it be possible for marking to adapt transparency of pixel below it?

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 12:52 PM

probably, but i don't know how

Souly 27-Oct-20 12:52 PM

oof

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 12:52 PM

doesn't the ghost skin have outline texture

Souly 27-Oct-20 12:52 PM

its just bad port of 0.6 skin

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 12:53 PM

k

it should be fine with a proper outline texture

Souly 27-Oct-20 12:53 PM

ye

eepnes 27-Oct-20 12:55 PM

oof

Souly 27-Oct-20 01:18 PM

saddo matches almost nothing

like i said just extending wont quite work on some markings

Sonix 27-Oct-20 01:22 PM

Does it work on this one

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ebkahnjsdggakho/ghost.zip/file

ghost

@Souly

@TsFreddie

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 01:28 PM

like i said just extending wont quite work on some markings

@Souly i think saddo should end somewhere before it reaches the edge if that make any sense. like the bottom part get thiner at the edge.

so the top part should get thinner and probably vanish before it reaches the outline

I'll try that ghost really quick

what are those eyes tho (edited)

Souly 27-Oct-20 01:47 PM

i want ghost in vanilla

@TsFreddie ye maybe something like this would work

like in 0.6 saddo

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 02:21 PM

me switching back to master

Souly 27-Oct-20 02:25 PM

lmao

Blade 27-Oct-20 02:26 PM

I see nothing wrong

ShootXen 27-Oct-20 02:54 PM

nice new skin where can I get it (edited)

Assa 27-Oct-20 03:05 PM

if you add the ghost skin to vanilla, i will 100% do the ghost mod again

fokkonaut 27-Oct-20 03:18 PM

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/data/skins/ghost.png

Blade 27-Oct-20 03:22 PM

Bow! Don't remember who suggested it, but here it is.

fokkonaut 27-Oct-20 03:25 PM

omg

can we have that in tw

all these weapons

Blade 27-Oct-20 03:26 PM

Glad you like it! Altough I'd probably rework them before they'd be appropriate to be used in a mod. They're not polished enough imo and don't hit Teeworlds' graphical standard

fokkonaut 27-Oct-20 03:42 PM

true

te_. 6 27-Oct-20 03:52 PM

Joined the server.

Sonix 27-Oct-20 04:41 PM

@TsFreddie those eyes are just random fun test xd

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 05:42 PM

pokles 27-Oct-20 06:16 PM

is that your education?

or whatever that is

TsFreddie 27-Oct-20 06:45 PM

yeah, just got it. I'm hyped

Sonix 27-Oct-20 06:53 PM

Congrats!

heinrich5991 27-Oct-20 06:58 PM

oof. gg

Assa 27-Oct-20 06:58 PM

gz ^^

a gerdoe 27-Oct-20 07:33 PM

Blade 27-Oct-20 08:15 PM

Someone remember the maps which used these tilesets?

Talking about 2 different maps here

Sonix 27-Oct-20 08:29 PM

those mine doodas i've seen them in ctf_goldmine maybe?

or something similar

Blade 27-Oct-20 08:30 PM

Do you happen to have the map?

Sonix 27-Oct-20 08:31 PM

https://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/maps/maps/ctf_goldmine_publictest_98c2e63d.map

Blade 27-Oct-20 08:32 PM

Thanks!

heinrich5991 27-Oct-20 08:33 PM

how did you come across that link? ^^ @Sonix

Blade 27-Oct-20 08:33 PM

Remove the filename and you can navigate through the files on your page, fairly easy

louis 27-Oct-20 08:33 PM

@Blade TeeWorld on ddrace uses the trees

Blade 27-Oct-20 08:35 PM

No servers online with that map

heinrich5991 27-Oct-20 08:35 PM

I'm just asking because it's not in the list anymore

Stiopa 27-Oct-20 08:36 PM

yep

the first mapres was used in a zESC map

Blade 27-Oct-20 08:37 PM

Would enjoy links to the map download or at the very least names

heinrich5991 27-Oct-20 08:37 PM

the link by sonix works to download the map

Blade 27-Oct-20 08:38 PM

I was refering to the TeeWorld map, or the one Stiopa mentioned

Stiopa 27-Oct-20 08:39 PM

Tired of having to see your diving gear all the time? Well, shed no more tears, for now there is a solution!* (edited)

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* always visible in water

Sonix 27-Oct-20 08:46 PM

@heinrich5991 teeworlds post/bookmarked

My n1 source of old undiscovered map gems

heinrich5991 27-Oct-20 08:49 PM

^^

Stiopa 27-Oct-20 09:20 PM

hmmm

what else was I supposed to do for water...

Blade 27-Oct-20 09:34 PM

Weapons sink, pickups float? @Stiopa

/_\ 27-Oct-20 09:38 PM

well weapons & pickups never move

Blade 27-Oct-20 09:39 PM

In vanilla, sure, but this is a mod. I don't see why I drowned person wouldn't drop their stuff

Zatline 27-Oct-20 09:40 PM

animate water @Stiopa

Stiopa 27-Oct-20 09:56 PM

hehe that could be next indeed :D @Zatline

sure sounds like a difficult task ^^

Teuzin☯ 27-Oct-20 11:00 PM

Joined the server.

Blade 27-Oct-20 11:03 PM

Little artwork I'm working on

Inspired by this thing I found online

Sonix 27-Oct-20 11:07 PM

https://tenor.com/view/goku-healing-dragonballs-anime-gif-11693908

Blade 27-Oct-20 11:07 PM

Yep!

Sune 27-Oct-20 11:50 PM

Joined the server.

ShootXen 28-Oct-20 12:19 AM

lore: every tee is a clone

Stiopa 28-Oct-20 12:34 AM

I didn't know I had epilepsy

now I know

Stiopa 28-Oct-20 01:11 AM

Stiopa 28-Oct-20 01:21 AM

(Yes, it moves!)

@Zatline next up splash particles? ^^

Zatline 28-Oct-20 01:28 AM

water animation

Attachment: 22bb74699cd0a9d4c9273609f8fedf85.mp4 (2.18 MB)

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@Stiopa could try that ya

Souly 28-Oct-20 01:29 AM

this gif has some white spots

Stiopa 28-Oct-20 01:30 AM

How do you think it could be done? Something a lá explosions with particles going out from the center? ^^

Zatline 28-Oct-20 01:31 AM

actually don't know need to think about it in more detail

Stiopa 28-Oct-20 01:31 AM

I think that could work... Just need to make sure droplets disappear on contact with water

Assa 28-Oct-20 11:11 AM

deadly raising water + pyramid shape island map = new battle royale

Stiopa 28-Oct-20 11:29 AM

Update: the water moves now gently

not as hectic as on Zatline's vid ^^

u really float on this sprite ^^

Assa 28-Oct-20 12:20 PM

would be cool if tees would create waves :3 just an idea don't implement it

𝐒𝐮𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐂𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐤𝐲 28-Oct-20 12:36 PM

Stiopa 28-Oct-20 12:37 PM

@Assa real waves can be quite hard :/

but we want splashes!

Assa 28-Oct-20 12:39 PM

i was just kidding, but yeah splashes

TsFreddie 28-Oct-20 06:21 PM

how about try to code polygons instead of sprites

Stiopa 28-Oct-20 06:21 PM

it is possible though

eh.

TsFreddie 28-Oct-20 06:22 PM

wave and splashes can be done in polygons. And we can have colors that matches and ripples thats more dynamic

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Probably need more stuff from graphics API but it is definitely possible with current backend

We already draw ui rects with vertices iirc.

Plus it probably give us more reasons to have an AA settings now. Lol

~~Ppl from chinese community keep asking me about why is there a antialiasing setting.~~

TsFreddie 28-Oct-20 08:59 PM

It is funny how I struggle to say anything in my paper then I pump out post this rediculusly long on github

heinrich5991 28-Oct-20 08:59 PM

you kind struggle to say something here though

Souly 28-Oct-20 08:59 PM

litteraly me when i argue with someone via internet

TsFreddie 28-Oct-20 08:59 PM

heinrich5991 28-Oct-20 08:59 PM

I went to the toilet and back while you were here, typing

TsFreddie 28-Oct-20 09:00 PM

I'm not arguing tho am i

It is 4am here so I probably don't know what am I doing or saying

jxsl13 28-Oct-20 11:08 PM

Stiopa 28-Oct-20 11:17 PM

hey @TsFreddie

consider sleeping!

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 12:50 AM

why tho

:t

k I think I know why

yepp fixed

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 01:50 AM

mfw my sprites aren't on the screen :(

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 02:00 AM

what can cause Sprites not to load at all? ^^

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 02:12 AM

I might go mental here ^^

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 02:21 AM

fixed it

FINALLY

kratos 29-Oct-20 01:46 PM

Joined the server.

hello everyone

does anyone know what you call that thing where you pull someone and he wakes up then u drop and he pulls u and so on so forth till you ,make it to the end?

Learath2 29-Oct-20 02:04 PM

Uh, ddrace?

ncanfeo 29-Oct-20 02:17 PM

Joined the server.

Dune 29-Oct-20 04:33 PM

After-parties?

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eepnes 29-Oct-20 04:46 PM

anyone trynna play?

jxsl13 29-Oct-20 07:49 PM

isn't that hammer fly while one player is stuck in freeze tiles?

the person hooked is hammered, unfreezed and then the one unfreezing falls down, while the other party does the same thing until they reach the end of that part. (edited)

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 08:36 PM

good lord is this more difficult than I expected

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 08:42 PM

Oh no what did you do. Is he drown.

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 08:42 PM

he is drown

and honestly

this is hell :D

yeah I doubt this thing is quite plausible

the transparency is always gonna make this thing a bit weird

and I won't just make the character suddenly disappear, should I? ^^

Souly 29-Oct-20 09:01 PM

do we really need tee drowning pose?

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:01 PM

@Stiopa i think a simple kill effect is enough

Like an normal kill xd

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:01 PM

ye ye I know

that was the original plan

but I was pitched an idea to have a drowning animation

so I decided to give it a try ^^

a gerdoe 29-Oct-20 09:02 PM

make default death effect after 1 second of flow

Souly 29-Oct-20 09:02 PM

maybe like a special sound for drowning would work

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:02 PM

use the tee cry sound

its creepy

custom servers had it when i was smaller and it was scary for me

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:02 PM

soo, a second of slowly descending and then pop?

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:02 PM

never heard that

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:03 PM

turns out that pressure of water kills drowned tees and makes them pop. (edited)

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:03 PM

@Stiopa do you know which crying sound i mean? xD

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:04 PM

not sure

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:04 PM

just output it

for testing purpose

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:04 PM

teefault cry 01 and 02?

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:05 PM

SOUND_TEE_CRY

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just both,

it scared me, it randomly appeared on modded servers back when i was younger xD

and another unused sound is SOUND_HOOK_LOOP

i really like that one tho, using it for jetpack in my mod

instead of normal gun sound

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:06 PM

jetpack would be a intresting powerup

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:06 PM

oh yeah

I know this sound :D

forgot it existed

where did I hear it... I can't recall (edited)

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:07 PM

@Zatline but it would've to be nerfed, like the one on infclass

the one infclass has is actually really nice, just a bit less force and i think it would work nice for some vanilla maps

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:08 PM

u have a video of it?

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:08 PM

let me see

ill record one

uploading

its really not too op

and fits vanilla style i think

check the refilling and how fast it uses the ammo

https://streamable.com/6l6bvw

i was holding fire for when i shot, so the slow down works very nicely

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:12 PM

Jetpack the powerup that comes with the water patch :d

anyway I guess I will store my weird water animation stuff on some offshoot branch o:

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:15 PM

so u think jet pack should come in form of a gun @fokkonaut ?

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:15 PM

i guess, thats how people are used to it

this controlling sheme at least should not be changed

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:15 PM

well ya would also balance it a bit better I guess

I feel jetpack plus gun could be OP

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:16 PM

it doesnt have to be a gun

can be another pickup

but the control of this should stay the same

people are used to this for ages, from mods like ddrace and infclass

and it feels natural aswell

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:16 PM

yeah but how would u shoot then? ^^

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:17 PM

well, maybe jetpack is like a broom xd

you cant shoot while flying (edited)

would require weapon changing mid-air :D

example (dont pay attention to the grenade itself, just to showcase how it would work): https://streamable.com/3ovx79

as you can see here, it should not be too op in a fight

the jetpack refills slowly

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:19 PM

ya would be better I guess

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:19 PM

slow enough*

so jetpack should be an actually weapon, something like a broom

would make sense, we have wooden hammers and other small guns, i dont think an actual jetpack would make sense

https://github.com/necropotame/teeworlds-infclass/blob/master/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp#L932-L934

this seems to be the code for it, I guess

https://github.com/necropotame/teeworlds-infclass/blob/master/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp#L1170-L1202

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:23 PM

hmmm

seems that I will have my hands busy after water

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:24 PM

you mean with an actual broom design and pickup? :o

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:26 PM

I would like to test a couple of ideas regarding new guns / new power-ups

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:26 PM

necropotame is such a beast

this is fucking quads based

it lightens the selected area

made using his teeuniverse editor i think

and the skins are inside the mapfile, as a fucking normal 0.6 skin .png file

the server completes it somehow

its just amazing

its all open source but i am too stupid to understand it

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Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:28 PM

ohh that would allow map themes with theme costums or something like example desert -> tees get cowboy hats

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:28 PM

Attachment: Base_Profile_2020.10.29_-_21.28.05.05.mp4 (2.25 MB)

this is vanilla compatible

0.6 tho

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:29 PM

btw. intresting tileset u playing on .. a bit too 3d-ish looking but the concept is nice

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:30 PM

Did you never see it?

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:30 PM

no

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:30 PM

Just join an "infclass" server on 0.6

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:30 PM

I imagine that's a map envelope?

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:30 PM

me don't have 0.6 :p

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:30 PM

Plus broadcast?

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:30 PM

@TsFreddie yes, it is, but they usually cant interact with inputs or something, its his mapconverter and teeuniverse stuff

also as said, the skins are put together by the server, then sent to the client

in the editor there is only the skinfile

vanilla 0.6 .png

its huge work, i am really sad you guys dont know of this, necropotame is a legend

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:31 PM

Don't know what.

~~We been hosting chn infclass for a good while now.~~

~~I just don't play it.~~

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:37 PM

ok

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:37 PM

Idk why I don't want to play anything other than fng.

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fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:39 PM

https://github.com/necropotame/teeworlds-infclass/blob/master/src/engine/server/mapconverter.cpp

necropotame/teeworlds-infclass

Infection Mod with a class system for TeeWorlds . Contribute to necropotame/teeworlds-infclass development by creating an account on GitHub.

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:39 PM

And I haven't made any server mod for a good while now. I really want to make sure 0.7 is good to use and maybe have a 0.6 comoat layer before I made any gamemode.

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:39 PM

@TsFreddie pls explain

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:39 PM

Explain what

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:40 PM

what you see in the link

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:40 PM

@TsFreddie do you know anything about chinese battlefield server?

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:40 PM

something like AddTeeLayer()

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:40 PM

tried to make blue star (edited)

got a purple star instead

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:40 PM

lol

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:40 PM

or pink :D

it's blue outside water

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:41 PM

well didn't someone say that only 1 star out of the 3 is actually used as damage indicator?

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:42 PM

it is true

the code only contains STAR01 sprite^^

Zatline 29-Oct-20 09:43 PM

could replace one of the unused stars and make a water version

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:43 PM

well I'm testing the different dmg indicator color since it's the last thing on my trello

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:43 PM

something like AddTeeLayer()

@fokkonaut I mean what are there to explain. He injected extra quads into a layer using teeskin as a texture, packed em as a standard map binary and sent the map "file" from the memory to clients. By the time a client joined, every quad layer is "made" at "run time".

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:43 PM

there were probably other suggestions but I didn't put them into the trello ^^

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:44 PM

@TsFreddie yea, okay, makes sense. But how can he do quads based on input? That would mean he could basically show whatever he likes whenever he likes

But thats not how quads work

usually

envelopes*

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:44 PM

Envelope is controlled by time/ticks

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:45 PM

yes

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:45 PM

Just sent "spoofed" tick info. To show the correct animation frame. Input is there already

a gerdoe 29-Oct-20 09:45 PM

hackish thing

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:45 PM

my code is full of hacks, is that a problem?

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:45 PM

mine too

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:45 PM

therefore no issue!

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:45 PM

ive never said that

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:45 PM

You can do this without the map converter thing I'd imagine. You just need to craft the envelope yourself I think.

a gerdoe 29-Oct-20 09:46 PM

did i say there is any problem

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:46 PM

hmm

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:46 PM

did anyone say you said there is a problem

a gerdoe 29-Oct-20 09:46 PM

stiopa asked (edited)

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:46 PM

no

he asked

whether it is a problem

true

xd

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:46 PM

I was going to make a pin password input for authentication (edited)

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:46 PM

@a gerdoe im tired

a gerdoe 29-Oct-20 09:47 PM

same

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:47 PM

I also have a note about customizable color of diving gear @Zatline

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:47 PM

Then 0.7 happened and I don't want to make a mod that no one plays.

And I don't really want to use ddnet as codebase.

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:47 PM

new 0.6 mods aren't super played either :t

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:47 PM

@Stiopa pls make it so every tee can have a custom diving gear color, not one thats applied for all tees

@Stiopa just another entry to the skin packet :D

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:48 PM

yaaay

larger packets!

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:48 PM

its so huge already

xd

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:48 PM

I can force chinese player play my mods which is a privilege that I somehow have

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:48 PM

o:

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:49 PM

I wanted to make a matchmaking system where you just enter your pin with your mouse when you join. (edited)

then some proxy magic that redirect you to the match server

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:51 PM

matchmaking in teeworlds... good luck

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:51 PM

Do you guys know how some servers made these transport tiles that move you to another server?

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:51 PM

what servers did that? (edited)

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:51 PM

bw for example

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:51 PM

that is the blocker stuff?

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:51 PM

ye

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:51 PM

Just sent a map change and redirect packets to another server.

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:52 PM

that simple?

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:52 PM

I mean what else is there to it. It sounds like a proxy, and probably would work like a proxy too.

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 09:53 PM

hm. So this would probably mean splitting the sprite into a colored and noncolored part

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:54 PM

And you do need the lobby to work as a proxy tho. I don't think we have a way to transfer socket or redirect ip address in client.

So the lobby server is both a server and a proxy client. It need to know which game server each packet is supposed to go to. I think the game server doesn't need to know the client is a lobby server.

Plus you can probably protect the game server by only allowing the proxy servers' ip to connect.

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 09:57 PM

nah, you can also direct connect

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 09:58 PM

Either way

Currently I still think coding for vanilla client is more fun tho. Plus I want CJK asap so I need to keep an eye on the progress here.

After the texrender. There are more works to be done to generalize text input logic and IME.

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:08 PM

@TsFreddie u stated yesterday that dynamic water would be possible right

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:08 PM

I think so

Haven't tried anything yet. But it should be possible given how we've been drawing UI.

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:10 PM

https://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/tutorials/make-a-splash-with-dynamic-2d-water-effects--gamedev-236

Make a Splash With Dynamic 2D Water Effects

Sploosh! In this tutorial, I'll show you how you can use simple math, physics, and particle effects to simulate great looking 2D water waves and droplets. Note: Although this tutorial is written...

have u taken a look at this paper?

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:13 PM

I looked at the video. Didn't check the code.

Also I'd say we should keep the "wave" much smaller. Preferably keep them within one tile height so we don't need anything fancy on the server physics.

Do you want me to take a crack at it? I still have like two issues that I would like to do on master.

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:16 PM

hmmm

seems possible

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:18 PM

yes pls take a crack at it I think you have the ability to make dynamic water a thing

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:19 PM

But if anyone want to do it before me. Just take a look at the boradcast backdrop. You can probably draw triangles using the freeformitem thing.

How are you drawing the water currently?

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:19 PM

sprites

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:19 PM

Ok

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:19 PM

tile sized sprites

if it is the top water tile, mod x coordinate by 2

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:20 PM

Lol hack master

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:20 PM

if (0) pick one of the 16 frames of the first collmn

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:20 PM

this image

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:20 PM

if(1) pick one of the 16 frames of the second collumn

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:20 PM

equals this animation

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:20 PM

if not on the top, just take the full one

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:21 PM

Yeah, we should just draw water with triangles. Then we can have any color we want and even with gradient

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:21 PM

gradient would be awesome for deep water

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:22 PM

I'll take a look sometime

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:22 PM

it's still drawing part, right?

we can't make dynamic water quite yet, can we? ^^

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:22 PM

Wdym drawing part

Oh is it visual only?

Yes

And it probably should be

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:22 PM

water physics will be still handled tile based and graphics dynamic

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:23 PM

That's why I think the wave should be kept within one tile even if we have dynamic water splash and stuff. (edited)

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:24 PM

there can be a problem if a wave goes on land

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:25 PM

it won't if it is within one tile height tho

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:25 PM

yep!

that's why I commented it just now :p

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:25 PM

Should look almost the same with your current solution but with less noticable patterns

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:25 PM

well I'd like to have an offset on water so waves can have some room up and down

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:25 PM

well if we make the water uh

too low

then there might be a problem of tees literally floating on top of water, more so than now

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:26 PM

https://gyazo.com/2435f38c95e49da58b125b291a187276

https://gyazo.com/e32e85592c1eb76594bfb85390fd62ab

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:26 PM

Well if it goes up and down the server physics would be much more difficult to make with a tile based map

And probably become less KISS and be rejected. Just saying.

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:27 PM

the tee already looks a bit like it's literally floating

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:28 PM

Bring the physics down half a tile if you can?

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:29 PM

ya the tee should be half in the water when floating imo

fokkonaut 29-Oct-20 10:29 PM

yes

TsFreddie 29-Oct-20 10:29 PM

Idk how you did it currently. But it looks solvable.

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:35 PM

rn it's a simple tile check

check if the tee is within that tile and apply stuff on it

I am able to think of a hacky way to do it rn but it will add like extra two checks ;d

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:42 PM

https://gyazo.com/ccb43273bc774c1c28558f61639c3b0b

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:42 PM

hmm

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:42 PM

this is what I imagine tile based waves

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:43 PM

hmmm I now kind of want to try this... maybe over the weekend ^^

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:45 PM

that's what i mean with offset of 0.5 tiles so that waves have room and don't strand (edited)

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 10:45 PM

I think that this is totally plausible

Ravie 29-Oct-20 10:48 PM

yeah it should work if the water just extends half a tile in each direction from the original tiles

Nin_ 29-Oct-20 10:56 PM

Joined the server.

Ravie 29-Oct-20 10:58 PM

I think a quarter-circle corner is the smallest possible tile, anything smaller looks weird anyway

Zatline 29-Oct-20 10:59 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407308363031117834/772154182630506536/ctf_underwater.map

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 11:10 PM

half surface done

looks better now on animated water ^^

Zatline 29-Oct-20 11:12 PM

looks also better on this still snapshot

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 11:12 PM

so the discrepancy issue should be solved like this

well, no. It's a bit hacky atm so no, it should not be solved like this, but for the purposes of testing it works

if animated water becomes a reality it can be easily standardized :)

1

Stiopa 29-Oct-20 11:23 PM

indeed it seems like we can draw freeform shapes up to 4 sides

if I understand this right

eepnes 30-Oct-20 01:11 PM

yoyo

anyone down to play?

jxsl13 30-Oct-20 01:12 PM

!online

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Stiopa 30-Oct-20 03:32 PM

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 03:44 PM

hacker man

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 03:45 PM

having found the water surface areas I can now set up an array of them and split the surfaces into an array of water levels

which i can then draw using the freeform

@TsFreddie

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 03:47 PM

cool

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 03:58 PM

programmur

Blade 30-Oct-20 03:58 PM

@Stiopa Now add weather that makes water levels rise and sink

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 03:58 PM

doubt

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 04:04 PM

nice

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 04:33 PM

^^^^

this is more than ideal!

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 05:14 PM

something here is wrong, what is it

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:06 PM

I think that's a bit too much precision... (edited)

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:07 PM

lol

nice progress tho hackerman.

looks like i don't need to chime in afterall.

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:10 PM

well... you haven't seen the code XD

Blade 30-Oct-20 06:11 PM

If it works it works

You can always refactor later

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:11 PM

You can always refactor later

The biggest lie programmer tell themselves

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:14 PM

maybe now I should add some kind of wave...

Blade 30-Oct-20 06:15 PM

The biggest lie programmer tell themselves

Not if you're disciplined, which, admittedly most aren't

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:19 PM

me as I ask myself how to apply the wave physics onto the vertex:

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:27 PM

that paper

zatline sent before

was vertex based i think

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:29 PM

ye ye I glimpsed through it and that's why I decided to use vertex ^^

well I guess I will try to figure that out soon

it looks nice rn

I'm just wondering if one vertice per pixel isn't too much ^^

so far it runs just fine

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:33 PM

Emm what

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:33 PM

1.0f = 1 pixel, right?

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:33 PM

I think you only need like two or four per tile.

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:33 PM

I have like 32 per tile rn :D

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:33 PM

How many triangles do you have

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:34 PM

FPS wise it runs just fine so far

uh

well

count

jxsl13 30-Oct-20 06:34 PM

vertex*

vertices

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:34 PM

Also I was think replacing the entire water layer with vertices.

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:35 PM

entire water layer?

well.. currently only the top is animated

so I restricted it to only the top tiles

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:36 PM

if we draw the entire thing, we don't even need water sprites anymore.

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:37 PM

well, I'd like to keep the water sprites intact for a "non-animated" water option

so that potato pcs don't have to worry about FPS

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:37 PM

Then you can have only four vertices for static water

Which is much faster than tiles

Since a tile is four vertices too, but you have a lot of them (edited)

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:38 PM

huh

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:38 PM

I don't think animated water would eat a lot of performance if you don't need it to be physically accurate

Just keep the vertices down a little bit. It would probably require less vertices than water tiles

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:39 PM

idk I'm still a newb. especially in all things rendering related :d

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:41 PM

I don't write graphics stuff often too. But I can guess

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:41 PM

wel... I don't ... at all :D

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 06:41 PM

right

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:45 PM

uh

have some "waves"

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 06:56 PM

yeah 32 is probably way too much ^^

@TsFreddie you were asking how much was being rendered (edited)

answer: caused fps drop from 300->230 (edited)

so... a bit (edited)

TsFreddie 30-Oct-20 07:01 PM

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 07:01 PM

corrected fps drop value

I guess I will consider 8 vertices per tile instead of 32 ^^

Assa 30-Oct-20 09:14 PM

I am not sure oyu can run teeworlds on "low fps"

Blade 30-Oct-20 10:37 PM

@Stiopa Is it possible to make the vertex count per tile a setting? So people can decide what looks and works best for them and their machine? Could also see a 2 vertex one working fairly well. Blocky but smooth ^^

Stiopa 30-Oct-20 10:41 PM

@Blade thought about it and it really depends on how the algorithm for the waves works

if it will be simple enough then I will introduce a setting

Blade 30-Oct-20 10:41 PM

Cool! Thanks

𝑺𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒌𝒉𝒖𝒏 30-Oct-20 10:51 PM

i want to host my server on my pc, how do i do this ?

3YJO 30-Oct-20 11:57 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 12:02 AM

Ravie 31-Oct-20 01:33 AM

@Stiopa u growing blue grass?

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 01:46 AM

hell yeah

8 vertex

a large wave looks interesting. I think 8 vertex is the sweet spot

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 02:22 AM

ok. gonna go to sleep now

did some code cleanup and optimizations. now I am on my way to implement the water flow

Дядя Женя 31-Oct-20 10:50 AM

Joined the server.

HoodedBoi 31-Oct-20 12:39 PM

uh i'm just wondering

when was the latest update released?

TsFreddie 31-Oct-20 12:40 PM

April this year.

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 06:08 PM

@TsFreddie available?

I want u to update a map ^^

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 06:34 PM

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 06:45 PM

Attachment: ctf_underwater.map (2.92 KB)

TsFreddie 31-Oct-20 06:51 PM

Copy the url plz.

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 06:51 PM

uhh

wdym

TsFreddie 31-Oct-20 06:51 PM

Right click the file

On discord

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 06:51 PM

TsFreddie 31-Oct-20 06:52 PM

Done

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 06:52 PM

I need to check if the water will render on the existing server ^^

TsFreddie 31-Oct-20 06:52 PM

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 06:53 PM

let's say the waves are... working ^^

I just need to fix some physics since the waves can grow outside of their boundaries

u sure it's done? o:

TsFreddie 31-Oct-20 06:59 PM

I'm 75% sure

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 07:01 PM

I may have sent some wrong file then?

no.. surely that's right

map on server/editor

TsFreddie 31-Oct-20 07:06 PM

Did you reload

Rcon reload

TryHackRey 31-Oct-20 07:07 PM

Joined the server.

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 07:08 PM

ye I even changed maps

the amplitude is a bit too large atm ^^

right... there is one server change (0.5 hitbox) (edited)

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 08:10 PM

@TsFreddie can I send you a .zip of maps?

TsFreddie 31-Oct-20 08:10 PM

Emm

Probably. But maybe tomorrow

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 08:10 PM

okayyyy

go to sleep!

right now!

how can we test waves on non-test maps if they are not updated

Spyry 31-Oct-20 08:35 PM

@Stiopa you did that? the water

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 08:35 PM

I like water

https://tenor.com/view/guy-in-black-shirt-thirsty-overflow-hexen-so-gif-11884310

Spyry 31-Oct-20 10:17 PM

@Stiopa will you make it available?

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 10:23 PM

it already is

my code is commited to Stiopa866/teewords/tree/harpoon and other branches starting with harpoon_

Spyry 31-Oct-20 10:26 PM

in which version does it work?

@Stiopa

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 10:38 PM

well u need to compile a client

Spyry 31-Oct-20 10:49 PM

Which version? I'm making a mod in version 6.5 and it would be nice to use these waters

@Stiopa

a gerdoe 31-Oct-20 11:18 PM

0.7.5 i guess

or master branch

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 11:41 PM

@Zatline want to try out the waves? ^^

Zatline 31-Oct-20 11:41 PM

hell yea

Stiopa 31-Oct-20 11:41 PM

right

lemme get it uploaded

https://www.mediafire.com/file/4ndg9zv7bwdq2v4/teeworldswater.zip/file